Charts byTim Haile 1 Tim Haile’s Debate Charts From the Smith-Haile Debate on Biblical Putting-Away Tulsa, OK – Mar. 10,11, 2005 Bowling Green, KY – March

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Tim Haile’s Debate ChartsFrom the Smith-Haile Debate

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PROPOSITIONSSmith – Haile Debate on Divorce and Remarriage

"The Bible teaches that if a man puts away his scriptural (faithful) wife for a reason other than fornication, and then commits fornication, the original wife may not remarry."Affirm J. T. Smith - Deny: Tim Haile

"The Scriptures teach that whenever fornication is committed, the faithful spouse may put away his fornicator-mate and marry another."Affirm: Tim Haile - Deny: J. T. Smith


Proposition Defined:Smith – Haile Debate on Divorce and Remarriage

"The Scriptures teach that whenever fornication is committed, the faithful spouse may put away his fornicator-mate and marry another."Affirm: Tim Haile - Deny: J. T. Smith

InstructImpart Knowledge

Emphatic of “When”

39 Books O.T.27 Books N.T.

Illicit Sexual Relations

RepudiateDismissReject

One Who Is Sexually

Innocent, and True To His

Marriage Vows

One Guilty of Sexual

Immorality

Remarry With Divine

Approval


Reasons For This Debate:

1. Brother Smith Made The Debate Challenge

I have personally avoided making these differences a test of fellowship.

I teach that an innocent spouse, one faithful to his marriage vows, may put away his fornicator-mate and marry another.

However, my position neither expects nor requires anyone to remarry.

My position does not bind – It allows one to do what Jesus said he may do.


Reasons For This Debate:

2. There Has Been Much Controversy Over The Question Of The Rights Of The Innocent Put-Away Party

3. This Controversy Has Resulted In Broken Friendships, Cancelled Meetings and Division

4. Brother Smith And I Are Good Friends, And Brethren In Christ

5. I Have Agreed To Take This Matter Up For The Sake Of Brother Smith, The Hearers, And Myself All Coming To A Better Knowledge Of The Truth


Another Perspective

Brother Smith and I Agree That The Only Cause For Putting Away and Remarriage Is Fornication.Brother Smith and I Agree That When Fornication Is Committed, The Innocent Spouse May Put Away The Fornicator-Mate And Marry Another.This Is What Jesus Taught In Matthew 19:9!It Would Appear That There Is No Need For This Debate!But Brother Smith Adds His Provisos!


This Debate Is NOT About:

Condoning The Sin Of Adultery – He And I Both Condemn and Combat Adultery!

Arguments Based Upon Emotions, Feelings or Fairness – I Make None!

“Mental Divorce” – A False and Misleading Label – A Term of Derision – A Prejudicial Concoction – “Apoluo” Is A Verb of Action Involving Determination and Declaration



The Waiting Game:

Matthew 5:32: “But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.”

One Commits Adultery If He Puts Away His Mate Not For Fornication, Waits For That Mate To Commit Fornication, Then Marries Another.

If Two Mates Put Each Other Away Not For Fornication, Neither May Remarry



The Waiting Game:

Is One Guilty Of Playing “The Waiting Game” If He Plans To Remarry After The Death Of A Mate Who Has Unlawfully Put Him Away? (Rom. 7:2)

Is One Guilty Of Playing “The Waiting Game” If He Plans To Remarry His Spouse Who Had Put Him Away And May Be Reconciled To Him? (1 Cor. 7:11)



A “Second Putting-Away” – a Misnomer and Misrepresentation – I Advocate Only ONE Putting-Away That Is For The Cause of Fornication!

Whether or Not Divorce Is “Real” – Some Divorces May Be Approved, While Other Divorces Are Unapproved, But ALL DIVORCES ARE REAL!

Fellowship – (Unless It Is Forced Upon Us) – I Respect The Scruples of Others!



Romans 13 and Civil Law

Civil Law Must Be Obeyed, However Civil Law Involves Only The Legal Registration of Marriage and Divorce

Marriage Is God’s Law, Not Man’s

To Be Bound In Marriage, People Must Comply With God’s Terms

To Be Legally Married, People Must Meet Legal Requirements


Marriage, Divorce and Civil Law

MARRIAGE

“GAMOS”

UNITE (Matt. 19:6)

LEGAL MARRIAGE

A Legal Contract

(Romans 13:1-4)

PUT AWAY

“APOLUO”

REPUDIATE(Matt. 19:9)

LEGAL DIVORCE

Dissolution of aLegal Contract

(Romans 13:1-4)

DISTINCT

ACTIONS



Ratification – Marriage Is Confirmed By God’s Joining a Man and a Woman Who Leave Father and Mother and Cleave To Each Other (Matthew 19:4-6)

Who Has The Right To Remarry – We Both Agree

1) One Whose Mate Has Died, And

2) One Who Puts Away His Mate For Fornication


This Debate IS About:

The Right Of An Innocent Spouse To Do What Jesus Authorizes Him To Do, i.e. To Put Away (repudiate, renounce, reject, refuse, disavow, disown, disclaim, discard, divorce) His Fornicator-Mate And Marry Another Without Committing Adultery. Jesus Nowhere Conditioned His Permission Upon Any Unlawful Prior Divorce Action That Might Have Taken Place By The Godless or Fornicating Mate



Whether Or Not A “Put-Away” Person Can Put Away:

An Innocent Spouse Can Lawfully Do What His Godless Mate Had Unlawfully Done

He Can Lawfully Repudiate The Mate Who Had Unlawfully Repudiated Him

He Can Lawfully Reject The Mate Who Had Unlawfully Rejected Him



Emphasizing SEQUENCE When We Should Be Emphasizing CONSEQUENCE

Jesus Said: “And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and he that marrieth her when she is put away committeth adultery” (Matt. 19:9, ASV)

Jesus Stated The Consequence of Two Men’s Unlawful Actions



Jesus Said: “And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and he that marrieth her when she is put away committeth adultery” (ASV)

Alleged SEQUENCE – Some Argue That Everything Stated In Matthew 19:9 Is Sequential (“man puts away wife, then marries another, then another man marries the put-away woman and commits adultery)

THEN


MATTHEW 19:9 STATES THE CONSEQUENCE OF AN

UNLAWFUL PUTTING-AWAY

THEPUTTING-AWAYMAN COMMITS

ADULTERY UPON REMARRIAGE

THE MAN WHO MARRIES SUCH A

PUT-AWAY WOMAN

COMMITS ADULTERY UPON

REMARRIAGE


SEQUENCE:MATTHEW 19:9 and MARK 10:11,12

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: andhe that marrieth her when she is put away committeth adultery”

“And He saith unto them, Whosoever

shall put away his wife, and shall marry another, committeth

adulteryand

if she herself shall put away her

husband, and marry another, she

committeth adultery”

If“AND”Means

SequenceIn One,

ItMeans

SequenceIn

TheOther!



Two Different Divorce Scenarios – 1) The One That Jesus Treated (does not involve fornication in the putting-away), and 2) The One In Our Propositions (which does involve fornication)

Binding A Scruple Upon Others, Disfellowshipping Those Who Differ With Their Application Of Jesus’ Teaching on Putting-Away, As They Negate Putting-Away CAUSE And Stipulate SPEED and TIMING


Switching ScenariosBrother Smith’s Proposition Versus Jesus’


“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery” (Matthew 19:9).




“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery”.

Where Is The “And Then”?



"The Bible teaches that if a man puts away his scriptural (faithful) wife for a reason other than fornication, and then commits fornication, the original wife may not remarry.” (Smith Affirms)

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery”.

The Cause of FornicationIn The Putting-Away

IsHere

NotHere


Switching ConsequenceBrother Smith’s Proposition Versus Jesus’


“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth

her which is put away doth commit adultery


Brother Smith Applies The Consequence of Mt. 19:9 (no fornication in the putting-away) to His Proposition Where One Has Committed Fornication


Switching ConsequenceBrother Smith’s Proposition Versus Jesus’


“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth


Brother Smith Applies The Consequence of Mt. 19:9 (no fornication in the putting-away) to His Proposition Where One Has Committed Fornication



“Tim Is Going to Lose His Soul”

1. Some Demand That No Putting-Away Can Be Done Apart From Compliance With Civil and/or Social Divorce Protocol

• Is Brother Smith Also Going To Lose His Soul? Are Those Who Go Along With Him Going To Lose Their Souls?



2. Some Demand That No Putting-Away Can Be Ratified Apart From Socially or Civilly Recognized Method or Procedure




3. Some Demand That A Civilly Divorced Innocent Spouse Must Counter-File For Divorce In Order To Have The Right To Remarry




4. Some Demand That One Put Away For Fornication Has No Right To Remarry Upon The Death of His Mate




5. Some Demand That One May Not Remarry His Mate Whom He Had Put Away For Fornication




Inventing A Put-Away CLASSIFICATION This Is Done By Emphasizing The ACTION Of Putting-Away Over The CAUSE Of Putting-Away

Some Believe And Teach That One Is Forbidden The Right Of Remarriage Upon The Mere Basis That He Was “Put Away”

They Speak Of One Obtaining A “Put-Away Status” (not Bible language)



We Hear Things Like: “All I Know Is What The Bible Says, or “The Words of Jesus Are Still True… – Whoever Marries A Put-Away Woman Commits Adultery.”

Why Don’t We Hear, “All I Know Is What The Bible Says – Whoever Marries A Putting-Away Man Commits Adultery” (Matt. 19:9; Mk. 10:11; Lk. 16:18)? THE BIBLE “SAYS” THAT TOO!


“ALL I KNOW IS”

“…Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery…(Matt. 19:9a)

“…Whosoever shall put away his wife, and shall marry another, committeth adultery against her” (Mk. 10:11)

“Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery…” (Lk. 16:18a)


I ALSO KNOW

THAT THE PRESENCE OF THE FORNICATION CAUSE CHANGES THE OUTCOME OF THE MAN’S PUTTING AWAY “…Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery…(Matt. 19:9a)

IT EQUALLY CHANGES THE OUTCOME FOR THE INNOCENT PUT-AWAY WOMAN, Who Puts Away Her Fornicator-Husband (Matt. 19:9a)



Some Brethren Turning A Bible Statement Into An Absolute (“whoever marries a put-away woman commits adultery”), Allowing Themselves Exceptions To That Absolute Statement (spouse dies, reconciliation, put away by unlawful mate…etc), But Not Allowing Others To Apply The Exception Clause of Matthew 19:9a In Cases Where Some Prior Unlawful Divorce Has Occurred



Procedure – Brother Smith’s Position Empowers The Godless Mate To Take Some Divorce Action That Forever Nullifies His Innocent Spouse’s Right To Put Him Away For Fornication And Marry Another

Allowing A Godless Mate To Nullify A God-Given Permission

Allowing Godless Judges To Nullify A God-Given Permission



Binding An Innocent Spouse To His Fornicator-Mate All The Days Of His Life (or for the life of his mate)

Making Fornication Irrelevant Because It Is Committed After The Fornicator Has Already Left His Innocent Spouse

Placing A Time Limit On How Much Time Is Allowed To Pass Between The Godless Mate’s Leaving (apheimi), and the Godless Mate’s Fornication


Matthew 19:3-9• {3} The Pharisees also came unto him,

tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?

• {4} And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

• {5} And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?


Matthew 19:3-9• {6} Wherefore they are no more twain, but

one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

• {7} They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?

• {8} He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.


Matthew 19:3-9

• {9} And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.


Matthew 19:3-9: “Putting-Away”

• {3} The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, “Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?”

• {9} And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Greek“Apoluo”


Matthew 19:3-9 – “Putting-Away”

Jesus Was Asked If It Is Lawful For a Man To “Put Away” His Wife For Every Cause“Put Away” Is From The Greek, Apoluo, a verb of actionApoluo Means Literally to Loose AwayOne May “Put Away” a Temptation, Evil Thought, or Bad Habit



Thayer Says, “when used of divorce, to dismiss from the house, to repudiate…” (actual definition in italics) (Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New

Testament) “From the House” Is Not a Part of the Actual DefinitionOne Can Put Away His Mate Even If That Mate Refuses to “Leave”Ex. Fornicating Man Who Refuses To Be “Put Away” (can woman not put away?)


Matthew 19:3-9 - Observations

Some Brethren Reject Thayer’s Definition (“repudiate”), And Accept His Personal Comment (“from the house”)

Their Position Requires This In Order To Limit Putting-Away To What One Does To A Marriage (physical separation), Instead Of What He Does To A Mate (his woman, or her man)



If The Words “from the house” Are Inherent In Apoluo, Then No Putting-Away Can Take Place Anywhere Except In The House Of The One Doing The Putting Away!It Would Then Be Impossible and Unscriptural For One To Put Away His Mate At Some Other Location (such as the courthouse, unless “house” implies “court” house)



What About Cases Where The Fornicator Has Already Departed From The House? Does His Leaving Eliminate The Innocent Spouse’s Ability To Repudiate For Fornication?“Putting Away” (apoluo) Does Not Mean Merely Putting Distance – It Is More Than Just Spatial Separation


Why Use “Repudiate” of Divorce?

“Repudiate” Means:“1.To refuse to have anything to do with;

to disown; to cast off publicly, as a son, or divorce, as a wife.

“2. to refuse to accept, or acknowledge; to deny the validity or authority of.

“Syn.--disavow, disown, discard, abjure, renounce, disclaim, divorce.” (Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary)



Putting-Away Is More Than Just The Breaking of the Physical Marriage Relationship: The Pharisees Asked Jesus About Putting-Away “Cause” (Reason and Intent Were Involved)“Putting-Away” (apoluo) Does Not Mean Merely Putting Distance – It Is More Than Just Spatial Separation



“But, After a Divorce,What is Left to

Put Away? What is Left to Do?”

Some Ask:



Even After Herodias Had Married Herod, She Was Still Called Philip’s “WIFE” (Gr. “woman,” Mark 6:17)Even After The Woman Had Departed, And Was Unmarried, The Man Was Still Called Her “HUSBAND” (“man,” 1 Cor. 7:11)“What Is Left To Put Away?” A HUSBAND! A WIFE!


When Speaking of Apoluo In Connection With Marriage:

• Jesus Spoke of What a Man Does to His “Wife” (Gr. “woman”) (Matt. 5:32; 19:9; Mk. 10:11; Lk. 16:18)

• Jesus Spoke of What a Woman Does to Her “Husband” (Gr. “man”) (Mk. 10:12)

• Jesus Spoke of Action Taken Against One’s BOUND Mate (“WHAT God has joined,” Mt. 19:6, implication in 9 – how else could God release the innocent?)


After an Unlawful Divorce,What is Left to Do… to Put Away?

The UnlawfulDivorcer:

• Rejects Mate

• Disowns Mate

• Declares Intent

• Acts on (wrong) Cause (Mt. 19:3)

The LawfulDivorcer:

• Rejects Mate

• Disowns Mate

• Declares Intent

• Acts on (right) Cause (Mt. 19:9)


“How Can a Put-Away Person Put Away?”

• If Putting-Away Is Nothing More Than the Dissolution (severing, separation, break-up) of the Physical Marriage Relationship, Then a Put-Away Person Cannot Put Away, HOWEVER,

• Dissolution of the Physical Marriage Relationship Is a Consequence of Putting-Away. Thus, the Innocent Spouse Can Do What The Guilty Spouse Did!



Covenant-BreakerPuts Away (Repudiates)

Not For Fornication

Innocent SpousePuts Away (Repudiates)

For Fornication

Covenant-Breaker

1.Leaves (breaks physical relationship)

2.Takes the Money

3.Takes the Car

4.Takes the Television

Innocent Spouse

1.No Physical Relationship Left

2.No Money

3.No Car

4.No Television

Physical Consequences:



• Though The Physical Consequences of the Putting-Away May Be Different for the Put-Away Spouse Who Puts Away, the Action of Repudiation (Rejection, Disavowal) Is The Same– One Who Has Been Disavowed Can

Disavow– One Who Has Been Rejected Can

Reject– One Who Has Been Put Away Can Put

Away


Implications of the Question: “What Is Left For The Innocent Put Away Person To Do?”

1. There Is Nothing More To Marriage Than a Physically, Intimate Relationship– If This Is So, When a Man Leaves a

Harlot He Has Done Only What The Man of Bro. Smith’s Proposition Does


Implications of the Question: “What Is Left For The Innocent Put Away Person To Do?”

2. A Fornicator-Mate Can Act Unilaterally In Determining The Future Condition and Rights Of The Innocent Spouse– Who Gave Him That Authority?

– Where Did That Rule Come From?

– Since When Can A Sinner’s Action Supersede God’s Divine Permission?



• In Becoming Married, an Eligible Man and Woman “Leave” Father and Mother, “Cleave” to Each Other, and are Bound by God (Matt. 19:5,6)

• The Marriage Covenant Is Formed On The Basis of God’s Holding the Man and the Woman Accountable to Their Vows and Promises

• Both People Vow; Both Can Disavow



• Since Marriage Is Regulated by God’s Law, Marriage Vows Must Be Based Upon That Law (Rom. 7:2,3)

• One Vows (Promises):– To be a Companion For Life (Mal. 2:14;

Matt. 19:6; Hos. 2:19)– To be Faithful (Hos. 2:20)– To Fulfill Sexual Duties (1 Cor. 7:3)– To Fulfill Family and Domestic Duties (1 Tim.

5:8,14; Eph. 5:23-ff)



• In Disavowal, One:– Ceases to be a Companion to His Mate– Ceases to be Exclusively Committed to

His Mate– Ceases To Fulfill Sexual Duties– Ceases To Fulfill Family and Domestic

Duties• In Marriage, One States His Vows: In

Putting Away, One States His Disavowal


Marriage – Declaration of Intent

• A Man and Woman Are Not Automatically Married by Merely “Leaving Father and Mother.”– Two Friends (male and female) Might

Leave Home To Go To College – Doesn’t Mean They Are “Married”

• There Must be Declaration of Intent (agreement stated in vows and promises)


Repudiation – Declaration of Intent

• A Man and Woman Are Not Automatically Divorced by Merely Separating From One Another– Man May Leave On a Business Trip– Woman May Go Visit Her Parents– Couple May Separate For Prayer and Fasting

• To Put Away, There Must be Declaration of Intent (repudiation, disavowal)


Repudiation – Declaration of Intent

• Luke 6:37: In Forgiving (apoluo) Another of His Debt of Sin, One Expresses His Intent To Release (spatial separation is not implied)

• Matthew 19:9: In Putting Away (apoluo) a Mate, One Expresses His Intention That He No Longer Considers Himself The Spouse of That Mate (he disavows)



Covenant-BreakerPuts Away (Repudiates)

Not For Fornication

Innocent SpousePuts Away (Repudiates)

For Fornication

God Does NotRelease Him

From HisMarriage Vows

Matt. 19:9No Remarriage

God Does Release Him

From HisMarriage Vows

Matt. 19:9Remarriage Allowed


“Where Is The Scripture?”• I Have Supplied The Scripture (Matthew 19:9)

(Bro. Smith has acknowledged this)• He Is Demanding a Scripture That Contains

The Actual Wording, Stating That an Innocent Put-Away Woman Can Put Away Her Fornicator-Husband and Marry Another Without Committing Adultery

• This Is Like Demanding Scripture Stating, In So Many Words:– That a church may build a building– That a church may have a baptistery– That a church may purchase songbooks


“Where Is The Scripture?”• “And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away

his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery” (Matthew 19:9).

• (This Implies) Whosoever Puts Away His Wife For Fornication Does Not Commit Adultery Upon Remarriage

• Matthew 19:9a Contains The Principle That Authorizes Any Spouse, Faithful to His Vows, To Put Away His Bound Mate and Marry Another


What Matthew 19:9a Implies• Whosoever Puts Away His Wife For

Fornication Does Not Commit Adultery Upon Remarriage

• Do We All Agree?

• No, We Do Not All Agree!

• Whosoever, (Except He Be a Put-Away Husband) Puts Away His Wife For Fornication Does Not Commit Adultery Upon Remarriage

My opponent agrees only provided…



Fornication Does Not Commit Adultery Upon Remarriage

• Do We All Agree?

• No, We Do Not All Agree!

• Whosoever, Puts Away His Wife (Only For “Before-The-Fact,” or Pre-Separation) Fornication Does Not Commit Adultery Upon Remarriage

My opponent agrees only provided…



Fornication Does Not Commit Adultery Upon Remarriage– Jesus Didn’t Add “Pre” or “Post”

Anything!

– Jesus Didn’t Add “Before-the-Fact” or “After-the-Fact” Anything!

– Now Who Is Adding To God’s Word? Who Is Binding His Own Additions?


RACE TO THE COURTHOUSERACE TO REPUDIATION

By Teaching That The Innocent Spouse Loses His Right To Put Away For Fornication And Marry Another As A Result of Not Being The First To Put Away, One Teaches A Race To Putting-AwayThe Position Stipulates Divorce TIMING;Jesus Stipulates Divorce CAUSEThe Position Punishes Godly, Innocent Spouses For Thinking FIRST Of Forgiveness and Reconciliation


Woman Gets Divorce Papers 42 Years LaterMarch 1, 2004 Reuters

AMMAN (Reuters) - A Jordanian woman received formal divorce papers 42 years after her husband left, and long after she remarried and had children, the official Petra news agency said on Sunday.

The 68-year-old man divorced his wife verbally in 1962, but only registered his new marital status two weeks ago, when he needed to apply for an official identity card, Petra said.

In Islam, a man is considered divorced from his wife after declaring it to her verbally three times.

The man filed formal divorce papers only after a civil servant dealing with his ID card application asked for proof that he was no longer wed to his former wife.

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Matthew 19:9 and Islamic Verbal Divorce Declaration

What if a man committed fornication and said three times, ‘I divorce you,’ before she could speak? Does Matthew 19:9 now prohibit her from remarrying?

What if his innocent wife interrupted her fornicator-mate, and said ‘Stop, I divorce you,’ before he was able to make his 3rd declaration against her? Does Matthew 19:9 now permit her to remarry?

“I DIVORCE YOU”“I DIVORCE YOU”“I DIVORCE YOU”

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be

for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put

away doth commit adultery.” Matthew 19:9


Matthew 19:9 and Islamic Verbal Divorce Declaration

Does Matthew 19:9 base the innocent person’s right of remarriage upon the speed with which he acts in rejecting his mate? Or upon the cause of fornication?

Do the fornicator’s quick actions force God to retract the exception clause and withdraw His permission for the innocent spouse to remarry?

“I DIVORCE YOU”“I DIVORCE YOU”“I DIVORCE YOU”

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be

for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put

away doth commit adultery.” Matthew 19:9


Matthew 19:3-9 – “Cause”

Jesus Was Asked a Question About Putting-Away CAUSE (“Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?” – verse 3)

Jesus Answered The Question About Putting-Away CAUSE (“Whosoever shall put away his wife, Except it be FOR FORNICATION…” – verse 9)


Brother Smith’s Answer To Question #3 On Night One, in Tulsa

3. If the man of your proposition had committed his fornication BEFORE unlawfully divorcing his faithful wife, would you still say that the put-away wife had no right to put him away and remarry?

Bro. Smith Said

“YES”


Breakdown of Question 3

3. If the man of your proposition had committed his fornication BEFORE unlawfully divorcing his faithful wife, would you still say that the put-away wife had no right to put him away and remarry?

1. The Man 1. The Man Committed Committed FornicationFornication

2. The Man Then 2. The Man Then Unlawfully Unlawfully Divorces His Divorces His Faithful WifeFaithful Wife

3. By Answering 3. By Answering “YES,”“YES,” Brother Smith Claims Brother Smith Claims That This Wife Is Not Allowed To Put Away That This Wife Is Not Allowed To Put Away And Remarry! She Can’t Do What Jesus Said!And Remarry! She Can’t Do What Jesus Said!


Matthew 19:3-9: Putting-Away Cause

• Jesus Did Not Stipulate Putting-Away:• Speed• Order• Procedure

• Jesus Stipulated Putting-Away Cause• For Just “Any Cause”?(v.3) NO!• For “Some Uncleanness”?(v.7) NO!• For “Fornication”?(v.9) YES!


Changing Subjects

God’s Order

Opponent’s Order

God’s Order

Baptist’s Order

Put Away

Put Away

Marrieth

Marrieth

Adultery

Adultery

Believe

Believe

Baptized

Baptized

Saved

Saved

Tom Tom Tom

Tom Tom Tom

Joe

Sue(any cause)

Joe

another

Joe commits

Joe

another

Joe commits

Against Sue

Sue

Joe(for fornication)

Same Subject!

Different Subject!

(Brother Smith’s“Order” Argument)

(Acc. To Bro. Smith)

(I Agree)


Changing Purpose

God’s Order

Opponent’s Order

God’s Order

Baptist’s Order

Put Away

Put Away

Marrieth

Marrieth

Adultery

Adultery

Believe

Believe

Baptized

Baptized

Saved

Saved

Tom Tom Tom

Tom Tom Tom

Joe

Sue(any cause)

Joe

another

Joe commits

Joe

another

Joe commits

Against Sue

Sue

Joe(for fornication)

Different Purpose!

Different Purpose!

NOTNOT for Remission

Remission of Sins

(Brother Smith’s“Order” Argument)


Brother Smith’s So-Called “Order” Argument

God’s Order

Opponent’s Order

God’s Order

Baptist’s Order

Put Away

Put Away

Marrieth

Marrieth

Adultery

Adultery

Believe

Believe

Baptized

Baptized

Saved

Saved


True Change of Order Chart?

God’s Order

Opponent’s Order

God’s Order

Baptist’s Order

Put Away

Put Away

Marrieth

Marrieth

Adultery

Adultery

Believe

Believe

Baptized

Baptized

Saved

Saved

This is not a truechange of order chart!

Different: SubjectSubjectDifferent: PurposePurpose

Different: Putting-AwayPutting-AwayDifferent: DefinitionsDefinitions

Different: ApplicationsApplications

It is Simply Faulty Reasoning!It is Simply Faulty Reasoning!


Omitting Information Misleads the Audience and Misrepresents Me

Some Say:

They Represent Me As Saying:

1. Marriage

Puts Away

Fornication Puts Away

Fornication

Remarriage

2. Marriage Remarriage

BondOmitted

GodlessUnlawfullyPuts AwayInnocent

With Information Supplied Both True

InnocentLawfully

Puts AwayGuilty

Cause

Cause Made Irrelevant by

Category


Matthew 19:9 {JTV}

• And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and except he be the first to put away, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

BrotherSmith’s

Stipulation!


Matthew 19:9 {JTV}

• And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and except he be the first to put away, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

What Happens ToJesus’ Stipulation?


Matthew 19:9 {JTV}

• And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

It Is Obliterated,Nullified and Negated!



Jesus Was Not Asked About Putting-Away PROCEDURE, Or Putting-Away TIMING – He Was Asked About Putting-Away CAUSE

Jesus Was Not Asked About Fornicators Putting Away Their Innocent Wives, He Was Asked About Hard-Hearted Men Putting Away Their Innocent Wives Not For Fornication



Jesus Spoke Of “WHAT” God Has Joined Together, Not “WHO”

An Eligible Man and Woman “Leave” (Intent, Notification, Declaration) Father and Mother

They “Cleave” To Each Other (Vows and Commitments)

God Witnesses and Binds Them To Their Vows and Commitments


“What” God Has Joined

GOD

MAN WOMAN

God Binds The Man To The Woman

God Binds The Woman To The Man

VOWS

PROMISES

MARRIAGE



Once “JOINED” Or “BOUND” By God, Man Has No Authority To Break His Vows And Promises

The Pharisees Invoked Deuteronomy 24, But Jesus Said That Law Was Given To Address The Practices Of Hard-Hearted Men, And Was Not Intended To Express God’s Original Intent & Purpose



Matthew 19:9a Gives One Exception To The No-Putting-Away RuleAn Innocent Spouse Is Permitted To Put Away (Disavow, Repudiate, Dismiss, Reject) His Mate For The Cause of Fornication (sexual immorality), Resulting In God’s Releasing That Innocent Spouse From His Marriage Vows



Matthew 19:9 Employs The Subj. Mood (whosoever shall, i.e. “should”)

Jesus Stated The Consequence If A Man Were To Put Away His Wife Not For FornicationJesus Did Not Address A Case In Which One Actually Put-AwayNo Fornication Is Present In The Putting-Away In Matthew 19:9


Matthew 19:9 Literally TranslatedWhoever might put away (pres. subjunctive = not

what is actually happening, but a hypothetical case)

his wife if not for fornication and might marry (pres. subjunctive)anothercommits (pres. indicative) adultery,and the marrying her-that-has-been-put-away

(participle perf. pass., one word) one (aorist participle)

commits (pres. indicative) adultery



Matthew 19:9 Does Not Say:“Any fornicator who shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery, and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery”Clauses A and B Of Matthew 19:9 State The Consequence If A Man Unlawfully Puts Away His Wife


Mark 10:11 – Adultery “Against” Her

MARK 10:2-12:

{2} “And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him.

{3} “And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?

{4} “And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.

{5} “And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.



MARK 10:2-12:

{6} “But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

{7} “For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

{8} “And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

{9) “What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.



MARK 10:2-12:

{10} “And in the house the disciples asked him again of the same matter.

{11} “And He saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

{12} “And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.” (Mark 10:10-12, KJV)



MARK 10:2-12:

Mark 10:2-12 Records The Same Teaching Occasion In The Life Of Christ As Matthew 19:3-9

Jesus Answered The SAME QUESTION, Asked By The SAME PEOPLE (Pharisees)

Mark 10:2-12 Parallels Matthew 19:3-9 Except That Mark’s Account Specifies That Some Instruction Was Given Later, In The House In Response To The Disciples

Matthew 19:10-12 Also To The “Disciples”



Argument Made By Some:

“And He saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.”

They Claim That Once The Putting-Away Has Occurred, The Man's Subsequent Fornication Cannot Be “Against” His Wife

The Position Held By Some Does Not Allow The Man's Adultery To Be “Against” His Wife




“And He saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.”

The Position Requires The “HER” To Refer To “ANOTHER” (other woman), And The Word “AGAINST” To Be Changed To “WITH”It Is Claimed That The Man's Adultery Is Not Against His Wife, It Is Only With The Other Woman



Jeremiah 3: Adultery “With” & “Against”

Judah Committed Adultery With Stones and Stocks (vs. 9)Though It Was “With” Idols, Her Adultery Was Also “Against” God:

“Only acknowledge thine iniquity, that thou hast transgressed AGAINST the Lord thy God, and hast scattered thy ways to strangers under every green tree…” (verse 13, see also vs. 25)




Some Cite Marshall’s Interlinear On Mark 10:11, Because He Translates “Epi” As “With” (in his one-man translation).However, The Same People Cannot Be Consistent And Use Marshall On Verse 12, For He Follows The Westcott and Hort Text, Which Has The Pronoun (“She”) Instead Of The Noun (“woman”)




If The “Her” Of Verse 11 Is The Other Woman, Then The “She” Of Verse 12 Is Also The Other Woman, And You Have An Adulteress Committing Even More Adultery Than She Was Before!If The “She” Of Verse 12 Is The Other Woman (Adulteress of verse 11), Then We Have No Scripture Principle Authorizing An Innocent Woman To Put Away Her Fornicator-Husband!



A Look At The Translations:“And He saith unto them, Whosoever shall

put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.” (KJV)

“So He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her.” (NKJV)

“And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her:” (ASV)



A Look At The Translations:“And He said to them, "Whoever divorces

his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her;” (NASB)

“And he said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her;” (RSV)

“He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her” (NRSV)



A Look At The Translations:“He answered, “Anyone who divorces his

wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her.” (NIV)

“He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her;” (Hugo McCord)

“And he saith to them, Whoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.” (Noah Webster)



A Look At The Translations:“and he saith to them, `Whoever may put

away his wife, and may marry another, doth commit adultery against her;” (Robert Young)

“And he says to them, Whosoever shall put away his wife and shall marry another, commits adultery against her.” (J.N. Darby)

“He told them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery against her.” (New Living Translation)



A Look At The Translations:“Any man who divorces his wife and

marries another woman," he told them, "commits adultery against his wife." (Phillips Modern English)

“He said to them, "The man who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against his wife;" (Today's English Version)

"Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against his former wife," (Edgar J. Goodspeed)



A Look At The Translations:“He told them, "A man who divorces his

wife and marries someone else is unfaithful to his wife. A woman who divorces her husband and marries again is also unfaithful.” (Contemporary English Version)

“So He said to them, "If any man divorces his wife to marry another woman, he commits adultery against his former wife," (The New Testament, Charles B. Williams)



A Look At The Translations:New Century Version

The Modern Reader's Bible (Moulton)

The New English Bible

The Protestant--Roman Catholic New Testament

The Living Oracles (Campbell, McKnight, Doddridge)

Revised Challoner-Rheims Version

The Twentieth Century New Testament

The Amplified New Testament

The Better Version Of The New Testament (Estes)

The New World Translation (J.W's).

ALLSAY

AGAINST



A Look At The Translations:Dios Habla Hoy Valera Rev. 1997

Valera Rev. 1995 Valera Rev. 1990

Valera Rev. 1960 Valera Actualizada

Valera Antigua Moderna

Torres Amat Biblia de Las Américas

Popular, Dios Habla Hoy Nácar-Colunga

Hispano-americana Latino-americana

Nueva Versión Internacional La Biblia Latino-americana

Nuevo Mundo Fuenterabbía

Biblia de Jerusalén Ecuménica

Strausbinger Puebla

Popular, Dios Llega al Hombre Martín Sánchez

J. T. de la Cruz Pablo Besson

Serafín de Ausejo

27 Bible Versions

In Spanish

Have “Against” In Mark

10:11



What The Passage Says:

{10} “And in the house the disciples asked him again of this matter.

{11} “And He saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her:

{12} “and if she herself shall put away her husband, and marry another, she committeth adultery.” (ASV)



“Whoever divorces his wife andmarries another

commits adultery against her”

The Man Repudiates

HisBoundWife

After Repudiating His Bound Wife, The Man (still

bound to his wife) Marries

Another

The Bound Man’s

Adultery Is Against His Bound Wife



Some Observations:

Jesus used “apoluo” to describe what the husband would do to the wife (renounce, disown, disavow, repudiate her).

Though repudiation, spatial separation, and remarriage would have already occurred, his adultery would still be “against” his bound mate.

Adultery is a sin against a person (in this case against the bound wife) affecting the marriage covenant, and not just the physical union!



Some Observations:

Jesus did not specify how much time is allowed to pass after the man’s departure before his adultery ceases to be “against” his bound wife.

“And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry

another, committeth adultery against her.”



Some Observations:

Since Jesus placed no limit upon how much time may pass before the adultery ceases to be “against” the bound mate, we are forced to conclude that the amount of time must coincide with the marriage bond, however long that is.

“And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry

another, committeth adultery against her.”


THE MARITAL STATUS POSITION

Brother Smith’s Affirmative:“The Bible teaches that if a man puts away his scriptural (faithful) wife for a reason other than fornication, and then commits fornication, the original wife may not remarry.”

Denies The Innocent Spouse The Right To Put Away His Fornicator-Mate On The Basis Of Some Prior, Unlawful, Unapproved Divorce Action That Was Taken By The Godless, Covenant-Breaking Mate

His Position Gives The Godless Mate The Power To Nullify a God-Given Right

It Forces God To Retract His Permission



Brother Smith’s Position Predicates The Innocent Spouse’s Right of Putting Away Upon The Condition of The Physical Marriage Relationship (physical togetherness, godless mate still at home)The Man of His Proposition May Have Divorced His Faithful Wife IN ORDER TO Commit Fornication With Another Woman!Jesus Based The Right To Put Away a Mate And Marry Another, Not Upon The Physical Proximity Of One Mate To Another, But Upon The Cause of Fornication (Matt. 19:9a)



Jesus Said, “Except it be for fornication” – He DID NOT SAY:“…And Provided That He Be The First To Put Away…”“…And Provided That The Fornicator Has Not Already Departed…”“…And Provided That The Fornicator Did Not Initiate The Civil Divorce Proceedings…”“…And Provided That The Fornicator Was Not Awarded a Prior Civil Divorce Ruling…”



Some Deny The Innocent Spouse The Right To Repudiate A Departed Mate On The Basis That There Has Already Been A “DISSOLUTION” OF THE MARRIAGE“Divorce” – “the legal dissolution of a marriage” (American Heritage Dictionary)

“Dissolution” – “Annulment or termination of a formal or legal bond, tie, or contract” “Dissolution” – “the termination of marriage by divorce” (Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law)



By Describing Divorce As Being Nothing More Than the Dissolution of a Physical Marriage Contract, Brethren Use Language That Reflects the World’s Ungodly and Secularistic Concept of Marriage and DivorceThose Who Have This Misconception Will Conclude That After the Physical Dissolution of a Marriage, “There Is Nothing Left To Put Away”



The Pharisees Did Not Ask Jesus About The Consequences of Spatial Separation (Putting SPACE or DISTANCE Between One And His Mate, Matt. 19:3) – They Asked About A Man Putting Away His (bound) MATEWhen Speaking of the Putting-Away Action, ALL PUTTING-AWAY PASSAGES SPEAK OF WHAT ONE DOES TO HIS MATE, i.e. “His Woman” or “Her Man” Not To His Marriage (Matt. 5:32; 19:9; Mk. 10:11,12; Lk. 16:18)1 Corinthians 7:11 – She Was Unmarried From Him, But He Was Still Her “Husband”


ABSOLUTES

Brother Smith’s Affirmative Is Stated As An Absolute:

“The Bible teaches that if a man puts away his scriptural (faithful) wife for a reason other than fornication, and then commits fornication, the original wife may not remarry.”

An Absolute Admits Of No Exceptions (2+2=4, Sun Rises in the East)What If The Putting-Away Husband Dies? (Romans 7:2)What About Reconciliation? (1 Corinthians 7:11)Bro. Smith Wants It Both Ways: an Absolute, and an Absolute With Exceptions


ABSOLUTES

Some Cite Matthew 5:32; 19:9 and Luke 16:18 To Argue That No Put-Away Woman (Person) Can Marry Another. However…Matthew 5:32 – The Cause of Fornication Is Not In EvidenceMatthew 19:9 – The Cause of Fornication Is Not In EvidenceLuke 16:18 – The Cause of Fornication Is Not In Evidence

IN THE ABSENCE OF FORNICATION,NEITHER SPOUSE MAY MARRY ANOTHER!


ABSOLUTES and LUKE 16:18

“Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery:

and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.”

g

In Its Context (No Fornication In

Evidence), This Is An Absolute Statement

In Its Context (No Fornication In

Evidence), This Is An Absolute Statement



Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery (Lk. 16:18a)

Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication…(Mt. 19:9a)

g HOWEVER, By Adding The

Exception Clause of Matthew 19:9a

(except for fornication), The

Putting-Away Man Has The Right To Put Away His Wife (For Fornication)

And Marry Another



“Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery:

and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.”

g The Presence of Fornication Is The

Presence of Putting-Away

CAUSE Fornication Allows

The Innocent Spouse The Right To Put Away His Fornicator-Mate

And Marry Another


THE PUT-AWAY CLASSIFICATION

Some People Speak of One’s Obtaining aPut-Away Status by Being Put Away

I Heard One Preacher Say, “NO PUT-AWAY PERSON IS AUTHORIZED TO REMARRY”

The Position Also States That No Put-Away Person Can Put Away

This Is Like Saying That No Repudiated Person Can Repudiate, or No Rejected Person Can Reject

Two People Vowed in Marriage; Two People Have The Ability (not the right) to Disavow


CAUSE NOT CATEGORYJesus

Divine permission granted for the cause

J.T. Smith

Divine permission denied because of the “box”

If no cause, no repudiation and remarriage

If category is “put away,” no remarriage

If no cause, remarriage = adultery

If “put away,” remarriage = adultery

Fornication = irrelevant cause if “put away”Context ignored, “put away” applied absolutelyWho is doing it: is he a “put-away” person?

Fornication = the cause

Jesus was asked about CAUSE

What is done: fornication is committed


CAUSE NOT CATEGORYJesus

“Put away” (no fornication in evidence)

J.T. Smith

“Put away” (after fornication is committed)

3 times, cause, Matt. 5:32; 19:9; Lk. 16:18

3 times, the passages subjected to “category”

In context, the passages are absolute

Context ignored, some parts absolute, some not

Apply Jesus’ words to a different scenarioIf the category is there, no permission is thereGod’s permission amenable to man’s actions

Scenario: no fornication, no remarriageIf cause is there, permission is there

God is in control of permission


Brother Smith’s Affirmative:“The Bible teaches that if a man puts away his

scriptural (faithful) wife for a reason other than fornication, and then commits fornication, the original wife may not remarry.”

The Put-Away Box

Brother Smith’s Proposition Denies The Right of Remarriage To This Woman On The Basis That She Was Already Put Away Before Her Husband Committed FornicationShe Has Obtained A “Put-Away” StatusHer Put-Away Condition Is Like Being Put Into A “Box” From Which There Is No Release


Jesus’ Restrictions Versus Man’s

“NO CAUSE,NO REMARRIAGE”

BOX

Putting-AwayMan Put-Away

Woman

What Jesus Taught In A Case Of Putting-Away For Just Any Cause

As Long As Fornication

Is Not In Evidence,

The Condition

Is Absolute For Both

Luke 16:18



“NOREMARRIAGE”

BOX

Put-Away

Woman

Theorists' Absolute Box(WithExceptions!)

Opponents’Position

Absolute for Innocent

Spouse Even When She has the

Cause of Fornication

“Matt. 5:32; 19:9; Lk. 16:18”Where’s the

putting-away MAN?



“NO CAUSE,NO REMARRIAGE”

BOX

Putting-AwayMan Put-Away

WomanDoctrine of Christ:

After:Death,Reconciliation,Cause ofFornication,RemarriageIs Allowed Innocent

Spouse19:9a

WomanRom. 7:2

Man1 Cor. 7:11

Theorists Allow

2of 3


Some Holes In The Box

The Principle in

Romans 7:2,3

Allows a Put-Away Person To Remarry

Upon The Death Of His Mate

The Principle in 1 Corinthians

7:11 AllowsA

Put-Away Person To Remarry In Reconciliation With His Mate

The “Lock-Box” Has Holes In It From Which Some Are

Permitted To Escape


The Put-Away Box

By Allowing The Departed Woman To Reconcile With Her Husband, 1 Corinthians 7:11 Allows A Put-Away Man (cp. “chorizo” in Matthew 19:6) To RemarryBy Teaching That God Releases One From His Marriage Vows Upon The Death Of His Mate, Romans 7:2 Allows A Put-Away Person To Remarry Upon The Death Of His MateThe Exception Clause Of Matthew 19:9a Allows A Put-Away Innocent Spouse To Remarry After Putting Away His Mate For Fornication


Alleged “Sequence” In Matthew 19:9“And I say

unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife,except it be for fornication,and shall marry another, committeth adultery:and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.”

Some Claim That Everything Recorded in Matthew 19:9 Happened Chronologically

They Have a Man (1) Putting Away His Wife, THEN (2) Marrying Another, THEN (3) The Innocent Put-Away Wife Committing Adultery Upon Her Remarriage


SEQUENCE:MATTHEW 19:9 and MARK 10:11,12

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: andhe that marrieth her when she is put away committeth adultery”

“And He saith unto them, Whosoever

shall put away his wife, and shall marry another, committeth

adulteryand

if she herself shall put away her

husband, and marry another, she

committeth adultery”

If“AND”Means

SequenceIn One,

ItMeans

SequenceIn

TheOther!


Alleged “Sequence” In Matthew 19:9Some brethren are teaching the following inaccurate

construction of Matthew 19:9

1) Lawful Marriage

2) Man Puts Away Wife

(for everycause)

3) MarriesAnother(commitsadultery)

4) AnotherMan Marries

the Put-AwayWife

(commitsadultery)

TimePasses

MoreTimePasses

“and then”MoreTimePasses

Jesus is not teaching a “sequence” of events.Jesus did not say … “and then” (Matt. 19:9b).Jesus’ points are not a chronological, linear

“sequence” of events.


Matthew 19:9 – Consequence or “Sequence”?

What is Jesus teaching in Matthew 19:9?

1) Lawful Marriage

2) Man Puts Away Wife

(for everycause)

3) MarriesAnother(commitsadultery)

4) AnotherMan Marries

the Put-AwayWife

(commitsadultery)

TimePasses

MoreTimePasses

“and then”MoreTimePasses

Jesus is teaching result not “sequence.”Should there be a putting-away for every cause, the result

(or consequence) for both men is adultery.Consequence of action, yes … “Sequence” of events, no


(2a) Unlawful Remarriage by

Divorcer

Consequence #1

(2b) Unlawful Marriage by the

One Who Marries the Innocent

PartyC

onse

quen

ce #

2

Consequence Of UnlawfulPutting-Away In Matthew 19:9

(1) Lawful

Marriage (2) Unlawful

Divorce


THE UNLAWFUL PUTTING-AWAYRESULTS IN:

The Putting-Away Party Not

Permitted To Remarry

Another Permitted To Marry The Put-Away One

NOR

Consequence Of UnlawfulPutting-Away In Matthew 19:9


JESUS’ TEACHING VERSUS MY OPPONENT’SON THE THREE GROUPS WHO MAY MARRY

1. Those Who Have Never MarriedJesus: All Such

My Opponent: All Such2. Those Whose Spouse Has Died

Jesus: All SuchMy Opponent: All Such

3. The Innocent Who Have The Cause Of Fornication

Jesus: All SuchMy Opponent: Only Certain Fornications


JESUS’ TEACHING VERSUS MY OPPONENT’SON THE THREE GROUPS WHO MAY MARRY

3. The Innocent Who Have The Cause Of Fornication

Jesus: All SuchMy Opponent: Only Certain Fornications

MUST BE PRE-SEPARATION FORNICATION FORNICATION COMMITTED WHILE BOTH SPOUSES ARE STILL LIVING TOGETHER

ALL POST-DIVORCE FORNICATION IS INCONSEQUENTIAL AS TO CAUSE


JESUS’ TEACHING VERSUSMY OPPONENT’S TEACHING:

Jesus Said, “Except it be for fornication”

What If A Man Repudiates, Dismisses, or Departs From His Innocent Wife, Telling Her That He Is Doing This FOR THE PURPOSE OF COMMITTING FORNICATION, WHICH HE PROCEEDS TO COMMIT. My opponent’s position DOES NOT ALLOW The Innocent Wife To Put Him Away For Fornication And Marry Another !


JESUS’ TEACHING VERSUSMY OPPONENT’S TEACHING:

MY OPPONENT’S POSITIONRENDERS CERTAIN KINDS

OF FORNICATION

TOTALLYIRRELEVANT!


The Alleged “2nd Putting-Away”

Those Who Teach That Jesus Gave The Innocent Spouse An Unconditional Right To Put Away His Fornicator-Mate And Marry Another Are Charged With Teaching A “Second Putting-Away”A “Second” Putting-Away Would Be Another OF THE SAME KINDHow Can It Be The SAME KIND When One Putting-Away Was NOT FOR FORNICATION And The Other Putting-Away Was FOR FORNICATION?Again, 2 People VOW: 2 Can DISAVOW


The Alleged “2nd Putting-Away”

There Should Not Be A Question As To Whether Or Not 2 People Can Put Away, Depart From, or Reject EACH OTHER – They Obviously CANThe Important Question Is Who Has THE GOD-GIVEN RIGHT To Put Away His MateMatthew 19:9a Teaches That An Innocent Spouse May Put Away His Fornicator-Mate And Marry Another Without Committing Adultery – Jesus Stipulated Divorce CAUSE, Not Divorce TIMING


“After-The-Fact” Putting Away

Some Condemn The Notion That An Innocent Spouse Can Repudiate His Bound Fornicator-Mate “After The Fact” of a Civil or Other Type of Divorce That Was Initiated by The Guilty PartyLet Them Tell Us Plainly, “After The Fact” of What?Few Will Answer With Plain Language. They Mean “After The Fact” of an Ungodly Mate Unlawfully Divorcing His Faithful and Sexually Innocent Spouse, And Has Now Committed Fornication!


“Mental Divorce”

I Know Of NO ONE In This Present Controversy Who Believes That Biblical Putting-Away Is a Mental Act Alone“Mental Divorcer” Is a Term of Derision Applied To Those of Us Who Deny That Covenant-Breakers, Fornicators and Human Courts Determine The Remarriage Rights of The Innocent Spouse Who Was Unlawfully Put Away By His Godless Mate“Apoluo” Is A VERB OF ACTION. It Involves The Rejection of One’s Bound Mate


Marriage & Divorce “Ratification”

Some Brethren Speak Much of Marriage and Divorce “Ratification”

It Is Argued That Marriages and Divorces Are Ratified By Various Cultural, Civil Procedures

“Ratify” (v) Means “To approve and give formal sanction to; confirm.” (AHD)

“Ratification” (n) Means “making something valid by formally ratifying or confirming it” (AHD)



“Ratify” - Meaning “to confirm, to establish, to settle” (Webster)

Marriages and Divorces Are Not “Established” By Human Courts, Cultures or Civil Procedures – They Are “Established” By God (Matt. 19:6)

Marriage “Covenant” Passages Speak of Three Parties That Are Involved In The Covenant: Man, Woman and God (Prov. 2:17; Mal. 2:14; Matt. 19:4-6)



“Ratify” From The Latin Word, “Ratus,” Meaning “FIXED”

Marriages and Divorces Are Not “Fixed” By Human Courts, Traditions or Civil Procedures – They Are “Fixed” By God (Matt. 19:6)

Eligible Marriage Candidates “Leave” Father and Mother, “Cleave” To Each Other, And Are “Joined” (yoked) By God to Each Other (Matt. 19:4-6)



{10}“And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:{11}“But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband; and let not the husband put away his wife” (1 Cor. 7:10,11).

Question: What did the wife of this passage do to ratify her divorce from her husband that caused them to be “unmarried”?


Biblical Putting Away Versus Civil ProcedureTWO FREQUENT MISTAKES:

1.Confusing the Marriage Relationship With The Marriage Bond

a.Herodias was “married” to Herod while bound to Philip (Mk. 6:17-18)

b.By “departing,” the woman was “unmarried,” yet still bound to her husband (1 Cor. 7:11)

c.See Rom. 7:2-3; Matt. 19:9


Biblical Putting Away Versus Civil ProcedureTWO FREQUENT MISTAKES:

2. Equating Biblical Putting Away With Civil Law Procedurea) Human authorities may forbid

marriage when God allows it (1 Tim. 4:3 - Still a “doctrine of devils”)

b)Jewish civil law made no provisions for a woman to put away her husband (Deut. 24:1-4), but Christ’s law did (Mk. 10:12)


God’s Views Of “Putting Away”

When the Fornicator Puts Away His Innocent Mate:

God Sees The Putting Away But He DOES NOT APPROVE IT

God Does Not Loose The Fornicator From The Marriage Bond

When the Innocent Puts Away His

Fornicating Mate:

God Sees The Putting Away And He DOES

APPROVE IT

God Then Looses The Innocent From The Marriage Bond

Only The Innocent Is Loosed To Remarry!


“Forbidding” What God Allows: (1 Tim. 4:3)

To Forbid Marriage (Among Eligible Candidates) (Ex. Nazi Germany, Slavery)

To Ban The Eating Of Certain Foods

DoctrineOf

Devils

God Allows The Eating of Meats (1 Tim. 4:3-5; Romans 14:6,14)

God Allows Marriage Between Eligible People (1 Cor. 7:2; Heb. 13:4; Matt. 19:11)

DoctrineOf

Christ


What We Are “Accustomed” To:“However, not all men have this knowledge; but some, being accustomed to the idol until now, eat {food} as if it were sacrificed to an

idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled” (1 Corinthians 8:7, NASB)

• Some had “conscience” of the idol (KJV)

• They were “accustomed” to the idol (NASB)

• Many Americans are “accustomed” to linking “marriage” and “divorce” to civil law protocol and procedure


What We Are “Accustomed” To:• Some Corinthians could not separate the

“meat” that was sacrificed to the “idol” from the “idol” itself. They thought of the idol as something

• Paul and others thought of idols as being “nothing in the world” (1 Cor. 8:4)

• Brethren who feel strongly that civil or cultural procedure is directly linked to the marriage bond should abide by the dictates of their consciences


Some May Be “Accustomed” To Connecting Biblical Putting-Away To

Civil Divorce Procedure:

HOWEVER:THEY MUST NOT BIND THEIR OWN PERSONAL SCRUPLES

ON OTHERS!NO CHURCH OR INDIVIDUAL HAS ANY

BUSINESS BINDING UPON ANYONE, ANYTHING THAT IS NOT BOUND IN SCRIPTURE!


Remarriage: No “Waiting Game”

• Essential To Define Terms Properly and Consistently – Words Mean Things!

• A “Game” Is A Competitive Activity or Sport In Which Players Contend “With Each Other”

• Traditionally, the “waiting game” position has been defined as a divorce scenario in which either party is potentially authorized to remarry.

• The New Testament Does Not Allow BOTH Parties The Right of Remarriage



• Traditionally, brethren have understood the “waiting game” as a scenario in which, following a consensual divorce, each person “waits” on the other one to either remarry, or engage in sexual relations.

• It is then alleged that the one who refrained from sexual relations may then repudiate the other and remarry.

• This position opens the door for remarriage to either putting-away party – the Bible does not allow for this potential



• Matthew 5:32 Disallows The Waiting Game:• “But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put

away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.”

• If one repudiates his mate for a cause other than sexual immorality, he “causes” her to commit adultery when she remarries.

• He is the “cause” because he repudiates and rejects his bound wife for no scriptural cause.



• Matthew 5:32 condemns a man if he repudiates his wife without the scriptural cause

• Matthew 5:32 condemns a woman if she marries another without a scriptural putting-away of her husband

• Matthew 5:32 condemns the second man if he marries a woman who has no scriptural right to remarry

• Matthew 5:32 teaches two types of guilt and two types of innocence



Matthew 5:32: Two Types Of Innocence and Two Types Of Guilt

INNOCENT

A. OF PUTTING AWAY (DOES NOT UNLAWFULLY REJECT HIS MATE)

B. OF FORNICATION (SEXUAL IMMORALITY)



Matthew 5:32: Two Types Of Innocence and Two Types Of Guilt

GUILTY

A. OF PUTTING AWAY (UNLAWFULLY REJECTS HIS MATE)

B. OF FORNICATION (SEXUAL IMMORALITY)



The One Who Puts Away His Mate Not For Fornication MAY NOT REMARRY

His Actions Would Be Against His Mate “So He said to them,

“Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her” (Mark 10:11)

Note That By “Marrying” Another Woman, This Man Commits Adultery “Against” His Bound Mate



By Combining The Principles Stated In Matthew 5:32, 19:9, and Mark 10:11, In Marriages In Which Fornication Is Committed, One Who Is Innocent of Putting Away His Mate, And Who Is Innocent of Fornication, May Exercise His Right To Repudiate His Fornicator-Mate And Marry Another

Again, Biblically, Only One Party Ever Has The Right Of Remarriage, Possibly Neither, But Never Both!



One should not be charged with a “waiting game” position just because he says the innocent may repudiate the guilty even when the fornication is committed after the fornicator leaves the marriage first

In most cases, the fornicator does leave his spouse in order to commit fornication

Jesus did not specify how much time may pass between the fornicator’s “departing” from his innocent mate, and the commission of his sin (fornication)


Questions For Brother Smith

1. Is civil divorce procedure inherent in the meaning of the phrase “putting-away” as a definition of the Greek word “apoluo”? Said “No” 3/10/05

2. Is civil divorce procedure inherent in the meaning of the word “depart” (1 Cor. 7:11) as a definition of the Greek word “chorizo”? “No” 3/10/05



3. If the man of your proposition had committed his fornication BEFORE unlawfully divorcing his faithful wife, would you still say that the put-away wife had no right to put him away and remarry? Said “Yes” 03/10/05



4. In your proposition, fornication follows the husband's putting-away. In the three oft-cited passages, Matt. 5:32; 19:9; Lk. 16:18, does fornication precede the husband's putting-away action? Said, “If there is fornication is would precede the putting away

5. Do bound mates continue to be bound by God following an unlawful putting-away? Said, “Yes”


Questions For Brother Smith (2nd Night)

1. Does the action of apoluo (put away) ever negate fornication as the cause for putting away by the innocent spouse?

J.T. Smith: “The action is notretroactive!”



2. Jesus tells us that should a man put away his wife for just any cause, and should he marry another, he is committing adultery. Is it because:He is a putting-away man?He puts away without the cause of

fornication?X



3. Jesus tells us that should a man marry a woman who is put away for just any cause, he is committing adultery. Is it because:She is a put-away woman?He marries one who is put away

without the cause of fornication?

X



4. Luke 6:37 uses apoluo for “forgive”: “…forgive, and you shall be forgiven”: Does releasing one from his sins require a physical separation of the two?

5. In Matthew 19:3, did the Pharisees ask Jesus about cause or about category? J.T. Smith: “Cause”

J.T. Smith: “What two persons?”


Questions For Brother Smith: Night One In Bowling Green:

1. If the man of your proposition had committed his fornication BEFORE unlawfully divorcing his faithful wife, would you still say that the put-away wife had no right to put him away and remarry? Bro. Smith answered “Yes”


Questions For Brother Smith:Night One In Bowling Green:

2. Jesus tells us that should a man put away his wife for just any cause, and should he marry another, he is committing adultery. Is it because:He is a putting-away man?He puts away without the cause of

fornication?X


Questions For Brother Smith:Night One In Bowling Green:

3. Jesus tells us that should a man marry a woman who is put away for just any cause, he is committing adultery. Is it because:She is a put-away woman?He marries one who is put away

without the cause of fornication?

X


Questions For Brother Smith:Night One In Bowling Green)

4. Luke 6:37 uses apoluo for “forgive”: “…forgive, and you shall be forgiven”: When one person releases another person from his debt of sin, does this require a physical separation of the two persons? Said, “Not persons, sins”

5. Does Matthew 19:9 stipulate putting-away cause or putting-away order? Bro. Smith answered, “Both”


Questions For Brother Smith: Night Two In Bowling Green:

1. Is the word “house” inherent in the Greek word apoluo? Answered “No”

2. What would the woman of your proposition have to do in order to avoid becoming a put away woman? Answered “Depends on circumstances”

3. In Luke 16:18, why do the putting-away man, and the put-away woman commit adultery upon remarriage? Answered “Jesus said so”


Questions For Brother Smith: Night Two In Bowling Green:

4. Does a putting-away man commit adultery if he marries again?Answered, “Depends on circumstances”

5. Is there anything in addition to breaking the physical marriage relationship that the man of your proposition does to put away his wife? Answered, “No, as we have stated, if by ‘addition’ you mean they must go through a civil

procedure”


Comparing Smith’s Answers to Questions 2 & 3 (Tulsa & Bowling Green)

2. Jesus tells us that should a man put away his wife for just any cause, and should he marry another, he is committing adultery. Is it because: He is a putting-away

man? He puts away without

the cause of fornication?

X

3. Jesus tells us that should a man marry a woman who is put away for just any cause, he is committing adultery. Is it because: She is a put-away

woman? He marries one who

is put away without the cause of fornication?

X

Documents

Charts byTim Haile 1 Tim Haile’s Debate Charts From the Smith-Haile Debate on Biblical Putting-Away Tulsa, OK – Mar. 10,11, 2005 Bowling Green, KY – March