Depo of Neil Gillespie [Taken 6-21-11]

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IN THE CIRCUIT COURTOF THE THIRTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUITIN AND FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDAGENERAL CIVIL DIVISION

NEIL J . GILLESPIE,P l a i n t i f f / C o u n t e r - D e f e n d a n t ,

CASE NO.: 05-CA-7205vs . DIVISION: GBARKER, RODEMS & COOK,a F l o r i d a c o r p o r a t i o n iJ . COOK,

p . A. IWILLIAM

D e f e n d a n t s / C o u n t e r - P l a i n t i f f s .________________________________DEPOSITION OF:TAKEN BY:

DATE:TIME:PLACE:

REPORTED BY:

NEIL J . GILLESPIECounse l fo r D e f e n d a n t s /C o u n t e r - P l a i n t i f f sJune 21, 201110 :38 a .m. to 3 :02 p.m.H i l l s b o r o u g h County Cour thouseF i f t h F l o o r800 E a s t Twiggs S t r e e tTampa, F l o r i d aKimber ly HimesNotary P u b l i cS t a t e o f F l o r i d a a t Large

RICHARD LEE REPORTING(813) 229-1588

TAMPA:I 00 North Tampa Street, Suite 2060Tampa, Florida 33602

email: [email protected] ST . PETERSBUR535 Central Aven

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APPEARANCES:EUGENE P. CASTAGLIUOLO, ESQUIREC a s t a g l i u o l o Law Group, P.A.3111 West Dr. Ma r t in Lu the r King Bouleva rdTampa Bay Park , LakePoin te 2, S u i t e 100Tampa, F lo r id a 33607

Appeared fo r P l a i n t i f f / C o u n t e r - D e f e n d a n t iRYAN CHRISTOPHER RODEMS, ESQUIREBa rke r , Rodems & Cook, P.A.S u i t e 2100400 North Ashley DriveTampa, F lo r id a 33602Appeared fo r D ef endan t s / C oun t e r - P l a i n t i f f s .

ALSO PRESENT:D e put i e s of H i l l sbo rough County S h e r i f f ' s O f f i c eHonorab le James D. Arno ld

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N ot i c e o f F i l i n g , da t ed 7 /29 /10P l a i n t i f f ' s Motion to D is q u a l i fy Judgere : Judge James Ba r tonEmergency Motion to D is q u a l i fy JudgeMar tha J . CookRevocab le I n t e r Vivos T r u s t Agreement(Re ta ined by G i l l e s p i e )A f f i d a v i t and I n v e n t o r y of P e r s o n a lPrope r ty of Ne i l J . G i l l e s p i e andD e s igna t e d Exemptions , May 16 , 2011N ot i c e o f Compliance

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1 The d e p o s i t i o n , upon o r a l examina t ion , o f2 NEIL J . GILLESPIE, t aken on t he 21s t day of J une ,3 2011, a t H i l l sbo rough County Cour thouse , F i f t h4 Floo r , 800 E as t Twiggs S t r e e t , Tampa, F l o r i d a ,5 beg inn ing a t 10:38 a .m . , be fo re Kimber ly Himes,6 Notary Publ ic in and fo r th e S t a t e o f F l o r i d a a t7 Large .8 ******9 NEIL J . GILLESPIE,

10 be ing first du ly sworn to t e s t i f y to th e t r u t h , th e11 whole t r u t h , and no th ing b u t th e t r u t h , was examined12 and t e s t i f i e d as fo l low s :13 EXAMINATION14 BY MR. RODEMS:15 Q Good morning . Would you s t a t e your name16 fo r t he r eco rd , p l ea se?1718

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N e i l G i l l e s p i e .And, Mr. G i l l e s p i e , what i s your middle

J os eph .

What i s your add re s s?8092 Southwes t 115th Loop, Oca la , F l o r i d a

Do you have a t e l ephone a t t h a t add re s s?Yes.


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What i s th e t e l e p h o n e number?(352) 854-7807.What i s your d a t e o f b i r t h ?March 1 9 t h , 1956 .What i s your S o c i a l S e c u r i t y number?160-52-5117 .Do you have a F l o r i d a d r i v e r ' s l i c e n s e ?Yes.Have you b r o u g h t t h a t w i t h you t oday?Yes .May I see it, p l e a s e ?(T e nde r i ng documen t . ) T h e r e ' s a copy o f

13 it h e r e , t oo , if you want t h a t .Q Thank you . We w i l l go ahead and t a k e a4

15 copy when we g e t t o the document p o r t i o n . The copy16 y o u ' v e made, i s it a comple t e copy o f th e f r o n t and17 back?18

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J u s t th e f r o n t .Okay. Do you have a Concea led Weapons

Yes.Do you have a copy o f t h a t wi th you?No.Do you have it wi th you?No.


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Y ou ' r e no t c a r ry in g it on your person?No.Okay.I d o n ' t even know if it's v a l i d anymore .Okay. Do you unde r s t and t h a t you a re

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QYes.Okay. Do you unde r s t and t h a t t h i s i s a

9 d e p o s i t i o n i n connec t i on wi th a l a w s u i t you f i l e d10 s t y l e d G i l l e s p i e ve r sus B a r k e r , Rodems and Will iam11 J . Cook, Case Number: 05-CA-7205?12

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QYes.Do you unders t and t h a t a w r i t of b o d i ly

14 a t t achmen t has been i s sued be c a us e o f your f a i l u r e15 to a ppe a r be fo re Judge Arno ld and show cause why yo16 s hou ld no t be he ld in contempt fo r f a i l i n g to appea17 fo r t h i s d e p o s i t i o n when p re v io u s ly no t i ced?18 A I d o n ' t r e a l l y unde r s t and a l l th e19 d e t a i l s , bu t t h a t sounds a bou t r i g h t .20 Q Okay. Have you t aken any p r e s c r i p t i o n21 medi ca t i ons wi th in the l a s t 24 hours?22

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No.Have you i n g e s t e d any subs t ances o f any

3 type in th e l a s t 24 hours t h a t would a f f e c t your4 a b i l i t y to remember?5

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7 type in th e l a s t 24 hour s t h a t would a f f e c t your8 a b i l i t y to unders t and t he Eng l i sh l anguage?9

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s p e c i f i c medi ca t i ons t h a t y o u ' r e on . Obvious ly , youknow what t hose med i ca t i ons a r e . Have t hey e v e r

13 a f f e c t e d your a b i l i t y to remember in th e p a s t ?14 A I r e a l l y d o n ' t unde r s t and what a l l t h a t15 means .16

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1 q u e s t i o n s today and t h a t I fu l l y unders t and your2 answers .3

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Uh-huh.So t h a t if it l a t e r appea r s t h a t you

5 e i t h e r d id no t p rov i de me with a l l th e i n f o r m a t i o n6 r eques t ed o r i n t e n t i o n a l l y concea l ed i n f o r m a t i o n ,7 t h a t t he r e i s no exp lana t ion by you t h a t th e r e a s o n8 you c o u l d n ' t g i ve me t r u t h f u l answers i s be c a us e o f9 a p h y s i c a l o r menta l impa i rment o r because of be i ng

10 under th e i n f l u e n c e of any s u b s t a n c e s , w he the r11 p r e s c r i p t i o n or non - p r e s c r i p t i on . So th e - - t h a t ' s12 th e purpos e of a sk i ng my q u e s t i o n .13 Are you fu l l y ab le - - and I'll r e p h ra s e14 it. Are you f u l l y able to unders t and my q u e s t i o n s15 today?16 A Wel l , with r ega rd to memory, I have17 spoken to my d o c t o r abou t ha v ing memory prob le m s ,18 e s p e c i a l l y s h o r t term and so f o r t h , and he says it's19 because o f d e p r e s s i o n .20

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1 would be because of d e p r e s s i o n .2 Q A ll r i g h t . I f a t any t ime my ques t ion to3 you isn't c l e a r , would you ask me to r eph rase it,4 p l e a s e ?5

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13 knowledge , your a b i l i t y to remember?14 A I d o n ' t know about cause and e f f e c t - -15 Q Okay.16 A - - about s p e c i f i c t h i ngs .

Q A ll r i g h t . Do you have any medica l718 c o n d i t i o n s t h a t y o u ' r e aware o f you d o n ' t have to19 d i s c l o s e them to me, b u t do you have any medica l20 c o n d i t i o n s t h a t y o u ' r e aware o f t h a t would a f f e c t21 your a b i l i t y to remember?22

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Okay. Which r e p o r t a re you r e f e r r i n g to ?The one t h a t I prov i ded you on May 27 t h ,

Was t h a t by a medica l doc t o r?T ha t ' s by Dr. Kar in Huffe r - Okay.- - in c o n j u n c t i o n with my medica l d o c to rOkay. Have you e v e r been examined by

Not in p e r s o n . T h e re ' s - - th e re was som11 t e s t i n g and so f o r t h .12

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Okay.No.

Are you m a r r i e d?

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I have one b r o t h e r and one s i s t e r .And what i s your b r o t h e r ' s name?Mark G i l l e s p i e .And where does Mr. Mark G i l l e s p i e l i ve?In For t Worth, Texas .Do you have h is s t r e e t address?I c a n ' t remember it r i g h t now. Meadow

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AMeadow Oak?I r e a l l y c a n ' t remember th e s t r e e t

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Not in memory.When i s th e l a s t t ime t h a t you spoke with

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1 A I d o n ' t have h e r p r e s e n t a d d r e s s . I2 b e l i e v e it 's in th e Chicago a r e a .3 Do you have a t e l e p h o n e number fo r her?

A5 Q When i s th e l a s t t ime you spoke to her?6 A I h a v e n ' t spoken to h e r fo r q u i t e some7 t i m e .8 Q More t ha n a year?9 A Yes.

10 Q More t ha n f i v e yea r s?11 A I d o n ' t remember .12 Q Have you e v e r b een a r r e s t e d ?13 A Can you e x p l a i n t h a t q u e s t i o n more? I14 mean t h i s t oday? Th i s i n c i d e n t w i th t h i s15 i n c a r c e r a t i o n t o d a y , does t h a t coun t?16 Q L e t ' s d e a l w i th p r i o r to t o d a y ' s d a t e ,17 which i s June 2 1 s t , 2011.18 A There was an a r r e s t a l ong t ime ago . I19 d o n ' t remember th e d a t e , and no t h i ng came o f it.20 Q Okay. What was it fo r ?21 A I - - I t h i n k it might have been fo r22 s o l i c i t a t i o n .23 Q S o l i c i t a t i o n o f what?24 A P r o s t i t u t i o n .25 Q Was t h a t w i t h i n th e l a s t f i v e y e a r s ?


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3 f e d e r a l o r s t a t e p ro s e c u to r with a cr ime?4 A No. I mean, n o t - - n o t to my5 unde r s t and ing o f t h i ngs .6 Q7 f e lony?8

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I ' v e ne ve r been conv ic t ed o f a n y t h i n g .A ll r i g h t . I want to s t a r t with any

18 l a w s u i t s t h a t you c u r r e n t l y have pending a g a i n s t an19 person o r e n t i t y fo r money damages . I 'm n o t20 focus i ng on th ings where you may be seek i ng j u s t21 i n j u n c t i v e r e l i e f , b u t we w i l l c ove r t h o s e .22 But fo r a moment, do you have any23 l a w s u i t s pending where you a re seek i ng money damage24 from any person o r e n t i t y ?25 A I 'm su i ng your f irm and your law p a r t n e r


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Uh-huh. Anyone e l s e ?2

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3 l i t i g a t i o n .4 Q I s t h a t th e l awsu i t that's pend ing in th e5 Uni ted S t a t e s Di s t r i c t Cour t in Marion County?6

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Yes.Okay. I 'm f am i l i a r wi th bo th o f t ho s e .

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19 pend ing ag a i n s t any pe r son o r en t i t y seek ing on ly20 i n j u n c t i v e r e l i e f o r equ i t a b l e r e l i e f ?21

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1 of your p ro p e r ty , and you p laced a va l ue on what you2 be l i eve th e f e d e ra l l a w s u i t i s wor th . Do you r e c a l3 doing t h a t , p la c in g a va l ue on what you b e l i e v e th e4 f e d e r a l l a w s u i t i s worth?5 A Y o u ' l l have to r e f r e s h my memory. I6 d o n ' t know r e a l l y what y o u ' r e speak i ng abou t .7 Q Have you done an i n v e n t o r y o f your8 p ro p e r ty in connec t i on wi th my e f f o r t s to c o l l e c t o9 th e judgment?

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Can you r e p e a t t he ques t ion?

Have you done an i n v e n t o r y o f your13 p ro p e r ty in connec t i on wi th my e f f o r t s to c o l l e c t o14 t h i s judgment?15

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to g e t i t ?It's h e r e . Do you want me

MR. CASTAGLIUOLO: H e ' l l ask you to g e tit if he needs it.Q I have a document which I'll show you in

a moment, b u t I'll read what it i s . It's a Not ice22 of F i l i n g an " A f f id a v i t And Inven to ry Of Per sona l23 Prope r ty Of Nei l J . G i l l e s p i e And Des i gna t ed24 Exempt ions , Amended, " and it's da ted Ju ly 2 9 t h ,25 2 0 1 0 , and - -


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MR. RODEMS: I d o n ' t have a copy fo r youMr. - - and I 'm going to j u s t c a l l you Mr. Geneif t h a t ' s all r i g h t , because I 'm stills t r ugg l i ng with th e p r o p e r p ro n u n c i a t i o n .

MR. CASTAGLIUOLO: You can c a l l meMr. C. It migh t be e a s i e r fo r - -

MR. RODEMS: Mr. C.MR. CASTAGLIUOLO: t h i s l ady .MR. RODEMS: Yes, sir. Okay.MR. CASTAGLIUOLO: Does t h i s look l i k e

t h i s i s th e new one?THE WITNESS: Well , t h i s one, I t h in k ,

was from l a s t y e a r .MR. CASTAGLIUOLO: Well , t h a t ' s what he

s a i d .THE WITNESS: This i s from Ju ly 29 t h ,

2010. T h e re ' s one from May 2011.MR. CASTAGLIUOLO: I f th e one in May,

does it i n c o rp o ra t e eve ry th ing t h a t ' s in t h i sone, o r i s it d i f f e r e n t ?

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t h e r e was - - Mr. Rodems had g a r n i s h e dsome funds , and then th e funds were r e tu rn e dto me. I t h in k t h a t ' s probab l y th e b i g g e s td i f f e r e n c e .

MR. CASTAGLIUOLO: Why d o n ' t you j u s t ber e spons ive to h is ques t ions?

I 'm s o r ry , Mr. Rodems.t ake your s t age .

I d i d n ' t mean to

MR. RODEMS: No, no, n o t a t all. I meanth e purpose of today i s t o g a th e r i n f o r m a t i o n ,and I r e a l l y d o n ' t have any prob lems wi th youa s s i s t i n g Mr. G i l l e s p i e as needed . O bvious ly ,if th e two of you need t o c o n f e r p r i v a t e l y , wecan a r r ange to t ake a break and

THE WITNESS: Do you have a - - I 'ms o r ry .

MR. RODEMS: Go ahead .20 BY MR. RODEMS:21 Q My ques t ion - - I th ink if we come back to22 th e q u e s t i o n , then maybe we can move fo rward - - i s :23 was t h i s a f f i d a v i t submi t t ed by you?24

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10 Q A ll r i g h t . Mr. G i l l e s p i e , I b e l i e v e11 E x h i b i t 1 r e f l e c t s t h a t you v a lu e "Choses in ac t ion"12 - - Paragraph 6(g) Page 2 "Gi l l e sp i e v . T h i r t e e n t h13 J u d i c i a l C i r c u i t , e t a l" a t $5 .00 .14

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19 B arke r , Rodems & Cook e s t a b l i s h e d a va lue fo r th e20 choses in a c t i o n of l e s s than FIVE DOLLARS, see21 Defendan t s ' Motion For Proceed ings Supplementary to22 E xecu t ion , submi t ted Ju ly 1 2 th , 2010."23 Q Okay. Do you have any reason to b e l i e v e24 t h a t th e va lue o f $5.00 i s i n a c c u r a t e ?25 A I p u t t h a t in t h e r e because t h a t ' s what


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1 C i v i l Righ t s and Americans w i th D i s a b i l i t i e s Act .2 Q Okay. Do you know o f any r eason t h a t3 t h a t c i v i l a c t i o n canno t be a s s i g n e d to my c l i e n t s4 fo r p u rp o se s o f s a t i s f y i n g my client's j udgment5 a g a i n s t you?

Can you r e p e a t t h a t ?7

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8 t h a t cause o f a c t i o n that's p e n d i n g in th e U n i t e d9 S t a t e s D i s t r i c t Cour t in Marion County c a nno t be

10 a s s i g n e d by you to my c l i e n t s in s a t i s f a c t i o n o r11 p a r t i a l s a t i s f a c t i o n o f t h e i r j udgment a g a i n s t you?12 A Wel l , I mean that's a l e g a l q u e s t i o n , I13 t h i n k , and it would seem to me t h a t it's w i t h i n th e14 - - I c a n ' t t h i n k o f th e word r i g h t now. It comes15 under one o f th e exemp t ions , because o f th e amount16 o f money.17 Q Okay. A ll r i g h t . Do you - - a re you18 c u r r e n t l y aware o f any c l a im s t h a t you have a g a i n s t19 any i n d i v i d u a l o r e n t i t y fo r money damages t h a t h as20 n o t been s u b m i t t e d in th e form o f a l a w s u i t ?21

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10 I don ' t know how to answer .11 Q Okay. Do you be l i eve t h a t any pe r son ha12 wronged you so t h a t you have a l e g a l r i g h t to sue13 t h a t person fo r money damages?14 A Tha t ' s a broad que s t i on . I - - I r e a l l y15 don ' t unde r s t and .16

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A(Repor t e r reads as r e q u e s t e d . )There may be , b u t I r e a l l y d o n ' t

9 a n t i c i p a t e any l i t i g a t i o n .10 BY MR. RODEMS:11 Q Okay. L et me give you some examples .12 Have you been in a c a r a c c i d e n t t h a t you b e l i e v e wa13 th e f a u l t o f someone e l s e t h a t you b e l i e v e you have14 a c la im fo r i n j u r i e s to y o u r s e l f o r damage to your15 prope r ty?16 A No. And I might be wrong in17 v o lu n t e e r in g , b u t any c la ims I would have a re18

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1 So if, fo r example us ing th e c a r2 acc iden t example , if you were in an acc iden t l a s t3 week and you broke your foo t and you a n t i c i p a t e d4 making a claim a g a i n s t th e o t h e r d r i v e r o r b e l i e v e d5 you may have a claim a g a i n s t th e o t h e r d r i v e r , t h a t6 would be th e r eason fo r me ask i ng t h e s e q u e s t i o n s ,7 and

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1 y o u r p r o p e r t y .2 A Noth ing t h a t I can t h i n k o f o u t s i d e t h i s3 l a w s u i t .4 Q Okay. A ll r i g h t . Wel l , fo r p u r p o s e s o f5 t h i s q u e s t i o n , I am aware and you - - you a re f r e e to6 answer th e q u e s t i o n however you f e e l a p p r o p r i a t e ,7 b u t you d o n ' t need t o r e p e a t t h i s l a w s u i t o r th e8 l a w s u i t pend ing i n f e d e r a l c o u r t in Marion County .9 I f you wish to , that's f i n e , b u t I 'm f u l l y aware o f

10 t h o s e .11 Do you b e l i e v e t h a t someone in c o n n e c t i o12 with t h i s l a w s u i t h as f a i l e d to u se r e a s o n a b l e c a r e13 and c a u se d you p e r s o n a l i n j u r y o r damage to y o u r14 p r o p e r t y ?15 A Wel l , that's a l e g a l q u e s t i o n , and I16 d o n ' t q u i t e unders t and t hose t e r ms in th e way t h a t17 you u n d e r s t a n d them.18

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Okay.But I b e l i e v e t h a t Mr. Bauer was

20 n e g l i g e n t in th e h a n d l i n g o f my r e p r e s e n t a t i o n .21 Q Mr. G i l l e s p i e , isn't it c o r r e c t t h a t a t22 th e t ime t h a t Mr. Baue r e n t e r e d a n o t i c e o f23 a p p e a ra n c e in t h i s a c t i o n , you had d i s m i s s e d all o f24 y o u r c la ims a g a i n s t Ba rke r , Rodems & Cook and25 Wil l iam J . Cook?


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1 A My unders t and i ng was t h a t t hos e2 d i s m i s s a l s were o f no e f f e c t b e c a u se you mai n t a i ned3 a c o u n t e r - c l a i m , and t h a t i s u l t i m a t e l y what th e4 Second D i s t r i c t Cour t o f Appea l h e l d . Had you5 dropped y o u r c o u n t e r - c l a i m a t t h a t p o i n t in 2007 th6 l a w s u i t woul d have ended .7 Q Okay. Wel l , let me go back . At th e t im8 t h a t Mr. Bauer e n t e r e d h i s n o t i c e o f a ppe a ra nc e ,9 isn't it c o r r e c t t h a t you had d i smi ssed y o u r c l a im s

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12 u n d e r s t a n d i n g t h a t t he y were n o t d i s m i s s e d .13 Q And isn't it t r u e t h a t Mr. Bauer was th e14 a t t o r n e y o f r e c o r d f o r you a t th e t ime t h a t y o u r15 d i s m i s s a l s were cha l l enged by my c l i e n t s in th e16 trial c o u r t and t he n in th e Second D i s t r i c t C o u r t o17 Appeal?

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Yes, and - - and he adv i sed t h a t .Okay. So what I 'm t r y i ng to f i g u r e o u t

23 i s what do you b e l i e v e Mr. Bauer d id t h a t was24 n e g l i g e n t i n th e h a n d l i n g o f y o u r r e p r e s e n t a t i o n ?25 A Again , t h a t ' s a - - I d o n ' t know how to


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3Q A ll r i g h t . Then l e ave as ide l e g a l f o r a

moment and j u s t tell me. What do you t h in k4 Mr. Bauer d id wrong in r ep r e s en t i ng you?5 A I , you know, would need t ime to sit down6 and p u t t h a t down on p a p e r to have any t h i ng7 comprehens ive .

Okay.But - S o r r y .

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Q Okay. I s t he r e any t h i ng t h a t you b e l i e vt h a t Mr. Bauer d id wrong t h a t you d id n o t i n c l u d e inyour b a r g r i evance a g a i n s t him?

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1 A Wel l , I would sa y as a g e n e r a l - - j u s t2 g e n e ra l l y I t h i n k it was - - he gave me bad l e g a l3 a dv ic e to su e you t o r e - - re - - to , I g u e s s - - to4 p ro c e e d th e way he d id if he had no i n t e n t i o n o f5 see i ng it t h rough to th e end .6 Q And d id you n o t i n c l u d e what you 've j u s t7 t o l d me in y o u r b a r g r i e v a n c e fo r any p a r t i c u l a r8 reason?9

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I d o n ' t unders t and what you j u s t a s ke d .Okay. My q u e s t i o n was c ou ld you tell me

11 a ny th ing - - and I 'm p a r a p h r a s i n g my q u e s t i o n - -12 cou ld you tell me a n y t h i n g t h a t you d id n o t i n c l u d e13 in y o u r b a r g r i e v a n c e a g a i n s t Mr. Bauer t h a t you14 t h ink he d id wrong, and what you j u s t r e l a t e d to me15 which t h e c o u r t r e p o r t e r t ook down, and my fo l l ow -up16 q u e s t i o n was: I s t h e r e any r eason t h a t you d id n o t17 i n c l u d e t h a t f a c t o r t h a t a l l e g a t i o n in your b a r18 gr i e va nc e ?19 A20 g r i e v a n c e .21

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1 i s : I s t h e r e a n y t h i n g t h a t you can t h i n k o f t h a t2 Mr. Bauer d id wrong t h a t you d id n o t i n c l u d e in y o u3 b a r gr i e va nc e ?4

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Noth ing I can t h i n k o f r i g h t now.Okay. And a t th e t ime t h a t you p r e p a r e d

6 your b a r g r i e v a n c e , was it your i n t e n t i o n to a d v i s e7 th e F l o r i d a Bar o f e v e r y t h i n g t h a t you b e l i e v e d t h a8 Mr. Bauer d id wrong?9 A I - - I meant it as a co mp r eh en s iv e

10 c o m p l a i n t .11 Q Did you i n t e n d , a t th e t ime you submi t t e12 a b a r g r i e v a n c e a g a i n s t Mr. B au e r , to n o t d i s c l o s e13 any i n f o r m a t i o n abou t Mr. B a u e r ' s wrongdo ing?14

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Yes.Okay. Have you been th e v ic t im in th e

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1 ask a bou t fou r yea r s i s because t h a t would be th e2 s t a t u t e o f l i m i t a t i o n s fo r a c i v i l ac t i on , which I 'm3 n o t t e l l i n g you t h a t so t h a t you can e i t h e r agree o4 d i s a g re e .5 I 'm6

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8 y e a r s , have you been p h y s i c a l l y c o n t a c t e d a bou t you9 person? H i t , s t r uck , punched, kicked? Any type of

10 p h y s i c a l c o n t a c t wi t hou t your consen t w i th in th e11 l a s t fou r y e a r s by any person?12 A Not t h a t I can th ink o f .13

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Within th e l a s t two y e a r s , has any pe r so16 o r e n t i t y made a f a l s e s t a t e m e n t , o r a l o r w r i t t e n ,17 about you?18 A Can you r e p e a t t h a t ques t ion?19 Q Yes. Within th e l a s t two y e a r s - - so20 going back to June 2 1 s t o f 2009 - - has any pe r son o21 e n t i t y made a f a l s e s t a t e m e n t , o r a l o r w r i t t e n ,22 abou t you?2324

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1 Q Okay. Anyth ing o u t s id e o f th e c o u r t2 p r o c e e d i n g s t h a t you b e l i e v e c o n s t i t u t e d a f a l s e3 s t a t e m e n t a b o u t you?4 A Are you i n c l u d i n g in t h a t Mr. B au e r and5 h is b a r c o m p l a i n t ?6 Q Yes .7 Anything o u t s id e o f t h i s l e g a l8 p r o c e e d i n g , which i s th e c a s e you f i l e d a g a i n s t9 Ba rke r , Rodems & Cook, P.A. and Wil l iam J . Cook, an

10 th e f e d e r a l c o u r t p r o c e e d i n g which you f i l e d in11 Marion County? Anyth ing o u t s id e o f t hose12 p r o c e e d i n g s where you b e l i e v e any pe r s on h as made a13 f a l s e s t a t e m e n t abou t you w i t h i n th e l a s t two y e a r s14 A Well , t h a t d o e s n ' t i nc l ude t he b a r15 c om pla in t t h e n .16 Q Okay. What b a r c om pla in t a re you17 r e f e r r i n g to ?18

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A ga ins t Mr. B au e r .Righ t . I 'm n o t my q u e s t i o n i s : Do

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14 r e c a l l he r name r i g h t now.15 Q Okay. Can you t h i nk o f any o th e r16 occas ion t h a t any pe r son o r e n t i t y has made a f a l s e17 s t a t emen t abou t you wi th i n th e l a s t two yea r s ?18

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1 Bajo , th e Chai rman of th e T hi r t een t h J u d i c i a l2 C i r c u i t Nominat ing Commission. And in c o n j u n c t i o n3 with th e b a r c om pla in t a g a i n s t Mr. Bauer , I t h in k4

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you wrote a 13-page what I would c a l l a d i a t r i b e- - a g a in s t me. And t h e r e may have been o t h e r

6 t h in g s , too , t h a t I 'm no t aware o f .7 Q Okay. So you b e l i e v e t h a t I have made8 f a l s e s t a t e m e n t s a g a in s t you in connec t i on w i t h you9 ba r g r i evance a g a i n s t Mr. Bauer , t h i s l a w s u i t and,

10 t h i r d , you be l i eve - - o r s t r i k e t h a t . And th e o t h e11 person t h a t you b e l i e v e has made f a l s e s ta temen ts12 a bou t you with in th e l a s t two yea r s i s Mr. Baue r ' s13 o f f i c e manager?14

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Yes.Okay.And I a l so th ink you made f a l s e

17 s t a t e m e n t s in th e f e d e ra l l aw s u i t .18 Q Okay. Are you f a m i l i a r with th e term19 " invas ion of pr ivacy"?20

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Somewhat.Okay. Have you e v e r f i l e d a l a w s u i t

22 a g a i n s t anyone fo r i nvas ion of p r i vacy?23 A I sued you and your law p a r t n e r s and you24 law f i rm fo r i nvas ion of pr ivacy , I be l i eve , i n25 P l a i n t i f f ' s F i r s t Amended Compla in t .


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1 Q By the way, j u s t fo r t he r eco rd , t he2 F i r s t Amended Compla int was no t accep ted fo r f i l i n g3 by Judge Cook, was i t ?4 A I d o n ' t - - it was accep ted by Judge5 B ar ton , and he s p e c i f i c a l l y s a i d , "You can f i l e it67

in the c ou r t r e c o r d . " T h a t ' s in th e t r a n s c r i p t .Q Okay. I b e l i e v e a t th e t ime t h a t Judge

8 Bar ton made t h a t comment, you had not prepa red a9 mot ion fo r l eave to f i l e an amended compla in t , had

10 you?A Yes, I had . Tha t was on March th e 5 th ,1

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2 0 1 0 . You and I s tood be fo re Judge B ar ton , and Ihad th e mot ion . He read it and he s a i d , "You may

14 f i l e t h i s w i th th e c l e rk of th e c o u r t , " and I d id15 so .16 Q And d id you eve r c a l l t h a t mot ion up fo r17 a hear ing?18 A Judge - - I c a n ' t r e c a l l whether it was19 what the s t a t u s of th e c a l l i n g fo r a hear ing was,20 becaus e th e same day t h a t t h a t occu r r ed , it 's my21 r e c o l l e c t i o n t h a t Judge Bar ton a l so i n d i c a t e d t h a t22 he had t a k ~ n thousands o f d o l l a r s - - t h a t h i s wif e23 had t aken t hous ands o f d o l l a r s from your f i rm fo r24 c o u r t r e p o r t i n g s e r v i c e s and t h a t t h a t u l t i m a t e l y25 c r e a t e d a c o n f l i c t . As I r e c a l l , you prov ided t he


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1 case law about t h a t , and t h a t le d to h is2 d i s q u a l i f i c a t i o n on o r a bou t - - with in th e same3 month, l a t e r in th e month.4 Q That was your second mot ion to d i s q u a l i f y5 Judge Bar t on . Cor rec t ?6 A Yes.7 Q In th e first motion to d i s q u a l i f y Judge8 Ba r ton , d i d n ' t you a l l e g e unde r oa th t h a t he caused9 t he dea th of your mother?

10 A You know, I t hough t you were go ing to11 b r in g t h a t up, so I have a w r i t t e n s t a t e m e n t a bou t12 t h a t .

Q314 s t a t e m e n t .

Well , I want - - I d o n ' t want a w r i t t e nI want an answer to my q u e s t i o n . Did

15 you f i l e a s t a t emen t under oa th t h a t Judge Ba r ton16 had caused th e dea th o f your mother?17 A No. You' re misquot ing th e - - you ' r e18 m is quo t ing t h a t .19 Q I 'm r ead ing from your motion which i s20 submi t t ed October 5, 2009 unde r pena l t y o f p e r j u r y .21

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Can I r e f e r to my no t es?L et me f i n i sh my ques t ion , Mr. G i l l e s p i e

23 Quote , As a proximate cause of Judge B ar t on ' s24 a c t i o n s , P l a i n t i f f ' s mother , Penelope G i l l e s p i e ,25 died September 16 , 2009.


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A Yes.2 Q Mr. G i l l e s p i e , you had some t r a i n i n g as3 p a r a l e g a l . Correc t?4 A I took two or t h r e e c l a s s e s as a5 p a r a l e g a l .6 Q And I b e l i e v e one o f your i n s t r u c t o r s wa7 Judge Demers?89

A

QYes.Uh-huh. And d i d n ' t you r e c e i ve some t yp

10 of award o r acco lade from him fo r your - - fo r your11 s t u d i e s ?

AQ

I d o n ' t r e c a l l .Okay. Mr. G i l l e s p i e , you 've been

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r e p r e s e n t i n g y o u r s e l f fo r s e v e r a l y e a r s . Cor rec t ?AQ

17 Correc t?18

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Yes.You have an account wi th West law.

No l onge r .But you d id a t one t ime .Yes.

Correc t?

You know what t he ph ra se "prox imate22 cause" means, d o n ' t you, s i r ?23 A Yes. And I b e l i e v e t h a t Judge B ar ton wa24 n e g l i g e n t as to th e F l o r i d a Rules o f J u d i c i a l25 Admin i s t r a t ion pursuan t to Rule 2 .250 , pa rag raph A,


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1 paragraph 1 1 pa rag raph B. The t ime s t a nda r d fo r a2 c i v i l trial case i s 18 months from f i l i n g to f i n a l3 d e p o s i t i o n .4 Pursuan t to Rule 2.545 "Case Management 15 (a) I Purpose . Judges have" "Judges and l awyer s6 have a p r o f e s s i o n a l o b l i g a t i o n to conclude7 l i t i g a t i o n as soon as it i s r ea sonab ly and j u s t l y8 p o s s i b l e to do s o . "9

10 Con t ro l .Pursuan t to Rule 2 .545(b) I "Case

The trial judge s h a l l t ake c o n t r o l of all11 case s a t an e a r l y s t age in th e l i t i g a t i o n and s h a l l12 c o n t r o l t he p rog re s s o f th e case t h e r e a f t e r u n t i l13 th e case i s de te rmined . The trial judge s h a l l t ake14 s p e c i f i c s t e p s to moni to r and c o n t r o l th e pace o f15 l i t i g a t i o n . "16 And t h a t r e l a t e s to t h i s j u ry t h i s17 c i v i l j u r y case was f i l e d August 11 th 1 2005 unde r18 Rule 2. 250 (a) (1) (b ) . The case should have conc lude19 18 months l a t e r on o r about February 11 th 1 2007.20 Judge Bar ton assumed - - assumed c o n t r o l o f th e case21 Febr ua r y 13 th 1 2007 and n e g l i g e n t l y managed th e cas22 c o n t r a r y to Rule 2 .545 .23 Judge Bar ton d id no t engage case24 management fo r a pe r i od o f one yea r fo l low ing the25 motion to withdraw by Mr. Bauer on October 28 th .


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1 Judge B ar ton a l l owed t h i s case t o l angu i sh and2 f a i l e d to perform case management d u t i e s imposed by3 Rule 2 .545 . Three ye a r s and t h ree months l a t e r ,4 Judge Bar ton was still p r e s i d i n g ove r t he ca se when5 he was d i s q u a l i f i e d fo r cause , May 24 th , 2010. So6 Judge Bar ton was n e g l i g e n t w i th r ega rd t o the case7 management .8 Then t he re was a second s e t of neg l igenc9 r egard ing h is f a i l u r e to conduct a hea r ing on a

10 c la im o f exempt ion and r e q u e s t fo r a hear ing se rved11 August 14 th , 2008 by Mr. Bauer . A c la im o f12 exempt ion s t a t e s i n r e l e v a n t p a r t , "The fo l l ow ing13 exempt ions from ga r n i s hmen t app ly to the P l a i n t i f f ,

I

14 N ei l G i l l e s p i e , h e r e i n as s t a t e d . 1, head o f fami ly15 wages. A, P l a i n t i f f prov ides more o f than one h a l f16 of t he suppo r t fo r a c h i l d o r o t h e r dependent and17 have n e t ea rn ings o f $500. o r l e s s p e r week." The18 o t h e r dependent r e f e r r ed to my mothe r , Penelope19 G i l l e s p i e , who was abou t 77 o r 78 yea r s o ld a t t h a t20 t ime s u f f e r i n g from A lzhe im er ' s demen t i a .21 Q L et me s top you t h e r e . I 'm going to g iv22 you as much t ime as you need to answer it, b u t a re23 you t e l l i n g me unde r oa th t h a t your mothe r was24 de c l a r e d by a c o u r t to be your dependent?25 A Not by a c o u r t , no.


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Was she d e c l a r e d by anyone to be your

Decla red?Yes, sir.No.But y o u ' r e t e l l i n g me t h a t you be l i eve

7 you have a b a s i s to d e c l a r e h e r as a dependent unde8 the ga rn i s hm e n t s t a t u t e ? I j u s t want to make su re9 I 'm c l e a r t h a t t h a t ' s what y o u ' r e con t end i ng ,

10 Mr. G i l l e s p i e .11

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She depended upoShe was i n c a p a b l e

of doing t h a t . She depended upon me to cook h e r17 meals .18 Q What ' s th e l e g a l d e f i n i t i o n of a19 dependent , Mr. G i l l e s p i e , unde r th e ga rn i s hm e n t20 s t a t u t e ?21 A I don ' t know .22 Q But you a s s e r t e d t h a t she was y o u r23 dependent . Correc t ?24 A Mr. Bauer a s s e r t e d t h a t she was a25 dependent .


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2 you?Q

AQ

And you m a i n t a i n e d t h a t p o s i t i o n , d i d n ' t

R e l y i ng on my a t t o r n e y , y e s .Okay. Now, Mr. G i l l e s p i e , you 've r e a d a

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5 bunch o f i n f o r m a t i o n . Not i n one word o f t h a t have6 I h e a r d a n y t h i n g t h a t s a ys t h a t Judge James M.7 B a r t o n , I I c a us e d - - p r o x i m a t e l y c a u se d th e d e a t h o8 y o u r m o t h e r .9

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Wel l , w e ' r e n o t done y e t .W e l l , let me a sk you t h i s , Mr. G i l l e s p i e

11 E v e r y t h i n g you ' ve j u s t r e a d , you d i d n ' t i n c l u d e i n12 your mo t ion t o d i s . q u a l i f y J u d g e B a r t on t h a t you13 s u b m i t t e d on O c t o b e r 5 t h , 2009 , d id you?14

15

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No, it w a s n ' t in t h e r e .Okay. And you knew t h a t t h i s a f f i d a v i t

16 was o f th e t ype t h a t Judge B ar ton h ad no ability to17 c o n t e s t th e f a c t u a l a c c u r a c y , and you i n t e n t i o n a l l y18 chose to l e a v e o u t what you c o n s i d e r e d to be19 i m p o r t a n t i n f o r m a t i o n t h a t would e x p l a i n t h e c o n t e x20 o f a s t a t e m e n t l i k e t h i s . I s t h a t what you ' r e21 telling me?22 A No. What I 'm telling you i s t h a t t h a t23 was w r i t t e n a b o u t two weeks after my m o t h e r ' s d e a t h24 and I was i n p r o f o u n d g r i e f . And I was d e v a s t a t e d ,25 and I , q u i t e f r a n k l y , w a s n ' t e v e n aware o f all t h e s


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1 r u l e s t h a t th e judge had v i o l a t e d .2 Q Okay. Then a t th e t ime t h a t you s t a t e d3 under oa th "As a proximate cause o f Judge B a r t o n ' s4 a c t i o n s , P l a i n t i f f ' s mother , Pene lope G i l l e s p i e ,5 d i ed September 16 th , 2 0 0 9 , " what ac t i ons d id Judge6 Bar ton t ake t h a t prox ima te ly caused th e d e a t h of7 your mother? Mr. G i l l e s p i e , with t r a i n i n g , you know8 what th e phrase "proxima te cause" means, d o n ' t you?9 A I have a l a ym a n ' s unde r s t and ing . I 'm n o

10 an a t t o r n e y , and I d o n ' t know what l e g a l - -11 Q Did your - - d id your mothe r a t t e nd one12 c o u r t hea r i ng?13

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She came down to th eWith Judge Bar ton?

15 Judge Bar ton ne ve r even met your mother ,16 d id he?17

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No, he d i d n ' t meet h e r .Judge Bar ton neve r spoke to y o u r mother

19 by t e l ephone , d id he?20

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22 d id he?23

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No.Judge Bar ton neve r wro te to your mothe r ,

No.But you p u t unde r p e n a l t y of p e r j u r y t h a

25 Judge Bar ton prox ima te ly caused th e dea t h o f your


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1 mother wi thou t any exp l ana t i on whatsoever . Isn't2 t h a t t r u e , s i r ?

I 'm g iv ing you th e exp lana t ion now.4

AQ I don ' t want th e exp lana t ion now. I wan

5 you to tell me whether o r no t you pu t th e6 exp lana t ion in t h i s a f f i d av i t unde r pena l t y o f7 pe r j u r y .8 A I don ' t th ink t h a t it needed to be t h a t9 comprehens ive .

10 Q You were t r y i ng to ge t Judge Bar ton o f f11 th e case , and you were wi l l i ng to say any th ing t h a t12 you cou ld to ge t him o f f th e ca s e . I s t h a t no t13 t rue?14 A No. And I be l i eve a t t h a t t ime you were15 aware t h a t you had pa id money to th e judge , and t h a16 u l t ima t e l y le d to h is d i s qu a l i f i c a t i o n .17 Q Mr. Gi l l e s p i e , i s it you r t e s t imony unde18 oa th r i gh t now t h a t I pa id money to Judge James19 Bar ton?

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You pa id - - l e t me r eph rase t h a t .Yes, s i r , I th ink you shou ld .THE WITNESS: May I consu l t with my

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I 'm going to go to t he r e s t room. I would l i kemy pape rs n o t to be d i s t u r bed whi le I 'm gone .

(Recess from 11:27 a .m. to 11:32 a .m. )4 BY MR. RODEMS:5 Q Mr. G i l l e s p i e , i s it y o u r c o n t e n t i o n t h a6 I pa id money to Judge James Bar ton?7 A Your law f irm pa id money to Judge8 B a r to n ' s wife in con junc t ion with h e r c o u r t9 r epo r t i ng s e r v i ce t h a t le d to th e d i s q u a l i f i c a t i o n

10 of Judge Bar t on , and t h a t t h a t t r a n s a c t i o n happened11 a t th e - - a t th e t ime o f th e first mot ion to12 d i s q u a l i f y , and you f a i l e d to d i s c l o s e t h a t to me o13 Mr. Bauer .14 Q Mr. G i l l e s p i e , you a re aware t h a t I and15 my law f irm neve r wrote a check to Judge B a r t o n ' s16 wife , a r e n ' t you?17

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19 sen t me check numbers and amounts t h a t you p a id to20 Judge B a r to n ' s wi fe .21

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Judge B a r to n ' s w ife o r a company?Well , I s a i d h e r c o u r t r epo r t i ng companyAnd w e re n ' t t hose payments fo r cop ie s of

24 d e p o s i t i o n s in ano the r l e g a l ac t i on t aken by ano the25 a t to rney?


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1 A I d o n ' t remember all th e d e t a i l s , you2 know, wi t hou t having th e document to r e f r e s h my3 mind.4 Q So i s your t e s t i mony r e c a n t e d t h a t I p a i5 money to Judge Bar ton?6

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Yes.A ll r i g h t .And I apo l og i ze fo r t h a t miss t a t emen t .Do you have any c la ims a g a i n s t anyone fo

10 damage to any prope r ty t h a t you own t h a t have n o t11 been f i l e d as a l a w s u i t - -12

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QNo.

wi th in the l a s t fou r yea r s?14 Do you b e l i e v e t h a t you 've been th e15 v ic t im o f f raud o r m is re p re s e n t a t i o n in th e purchas16 of p r o d u c t s o r s e r v i ce s a t any t ime with in th e l a s t17 f i v e yea r s?18 A Other than o u t s id e t h i s - - the se l e g a l19 proceed ings , no.20 Q Do you b e l i e v e t h a t you have - - do you21 be l i eve t h a t any o r a l c o n t r a c t you have e n t e r e d i n t o22 with in th e l a s t fou r yea r s has been breached by23 anyone o r any e n t i t y ?24

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1 t h a t you 've e n t e r e d i n t o with any person o r e n t i t y2 has been breached wi th in the l a s t fou r yea r s?34

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6 any t h i ng .7 Q

An o r a l c o n t r a c t ?Yes, sir.I - - I d o n ' t - - I c a n ' t th ink o f

Do you b e l i e v e t h a t any w r i tt e n c o n t r a c t8 t h a t you have e n t e r e d i n t o has been bre a c he d w i th in9 th e l a s t f ive yea r s?

10 A Other t han t h i s l a w s u i t and Mr. Bauer ,11 no.12 Q Okay. Other than Mr. Bauer , do . you13 b e l i e v e t h a t any a t t o r ney has engaged in l e g a l14 m a l p r a c t i c e in th e r e p r e s e n t a t i o n of you in th e l a s15 two yea r s?16

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No. I mean, o t h e r than your f i rm and - -Did you unders t and th e ques t ion?Can you r e p e a t i t ?Has my law f irm r e p re s e n t e d you w i th in

20 th e l a s t two yea r s?21

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No.Okay. With in th e l a s t two y e a r s , has an

23 l awyer commit ted l e g a l m a l p r a c t i c e in th e24 r e p r e s e n t a t i o n o f you?25 A Other than - - you know, o t h e r t han


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1 Mr. Bauer - - and I 'm n o t su re a bou t t he t i m i ng - -2

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Okay.- - no.A ll r i g h t . Do you have any c la ims

a g a i n s t any h e a l t h - c a r e p r o v i d e r s ? Doctors ,6 c h i r o p r a c t o r s , os teopa ths , f o o t d o c to r s , anyone who7 prov i des m e dic a l t r ea tmen t? Do you be l i eve t h a t an8 person o r e n t i t y t h a t ' s prov i ded medica l t r e a tm e n t9 to you, i n c lu d in g d e n t a l t r e a tm e n t , w i th in th e l a s t

10 two yea r s has commit ted neg l i gence?11

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No.With in th e l a s t f o u r yea rs , has anyone

13 conver t ed any o f your p e r s o n a l p r o p e r t y ? And when14 say "conve r t ed , " I mean t aken it wi t hou t your15 pe rmis s ion .16

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Can you r e p e a t t h a t ques t ion?Yes, s i r .With in th e l a s t f o u r yea rs , has any

19 person t aken y o u r p ro p e r ty wi t hou t your pe rmis s ion ,20 so t h a t you b e l i e v e you have a claim a g a i n s t t h a t21 person fo r money damages fo r t h e f t ?22

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No.Okay.No.

Do you have any p a t e n t s ?

Do you have any c o p y r i g h t s t h a t have bee


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1 v i o l a t e d w i t h i n t h e l a s t fou r yea r s?2 A I 1 m go ing to sa y - - I 1 m n o t even s u r e3 what a c o p y r i g h t i s 1 and I 1 m go ing to upda te my4 p r e v i o u s answer and say I 1 m n o t r e a l l y even s u r e5 what a p a t e n t i s

Okay.- - b u t I don 1 t t h i n k I have one .

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QAQ A ll r i g h t . O t h e r t ha n the l a w s u i t t h a t 1

9 pend ing in th e U n i t e d S t a t e s D i s t r i c t C o u r t Middle10 D i s t r i c t o f F lo r id a 1 Ocala D i v i s i o n 1 do you have an11 c l a im s t h a t any pe r s on o r e n t i t y has v i o l a t e d any o12 s t a t e o r f e d e r a l r i g h t s r e g a r d i n g ha nd ic a ps o r13 d i s a b i l i t i e s ?14

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A Well 1 th e f e d e r a l l a w s u i t 1 t h a t wouldc ove r what 1 S happened in t h i s c a s e . Righ t?

Q Mr. G i l l e s p i e 1 o t h e r t ha n th e c l a im s t h a17 a re pend ing in th e l a w s u i t t h a t i s pend ing in th e18 U n i t e d S t a t e s D i s t r i c t in th e Middle D i s t r i c t o f19 F l o r i d a 1 Ocala D i v i s i o n / do you have any c l a im s t h a20 you 1 re aware o f a g a i n s t any p e r s o n o r e n t i t y fo r21 v i o l a t i o n o f y o u r r i g h t s 1 f e d e r a l o r s t a t e 122 r e g a r d i n g h a n d i c a p s o r d i s a b i l i t i e s ?23 A I would sa y no 1 b u t I would a l s o sa y24 t h a t t h a t c o m p l a i n t proba b ly needs to be amended .25 Q Okay. Have you b een employed w i t h i n th e


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th e motion to d i s q u a l i f y Judge Bar t on .(Exh ib i t 2 marked fo r i d e n t i f i c a t i o n . )

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10 MR. RODEMS: I 'm going to make Number 311 th e Emergency Motion to D is q u a l i fy Judge12 Martha Cook, which was se rved on November 1 s t ,13 2 0 1 0 .14 (Exh ib i t 3 marked fo r i d e n t i f i c a t i o n . )15 BY MR. RODEMS:16 Q Mr. G i l l e s p i e , i s t h i s a copy of th e17 emergency motion to d i s qua l i fy Judge Cook t h a t you18 f i l e d on t h a t da t e?19

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May I se e what y o u ' r e r e f e r r i n g to ?I ' m look ing a t Pa ra gra ph 20. The pages

3 a re n o t numbered, which r e a d s , quo te , Upon4 i n f o r m a t i o n and b e l i e f , Mr. F i d e l Ca s t ro i s by5 p ro fe s s io n an a t t o r n e y a t law and c u r r e n t l y th e6 F i r s t S e c re t a ry o f th e Communist P a r t y o f Cuba.7 Noth ing in S e c t i o n 3 8 . 1 3 F l o r i d a S t a t u t e s l i m i t s th8 s e l e c t i o n o f a Judge ad l i t em to a F l o r i d a l i c e n s e d9 a t t o r n e y o r manda tes a F l o r i d a c o u r t . C l e a r l y th e

10 F l o r i d a c o u r t s have n o t b een a b l e t o l a w f u l l y11 a d ju d i c a t e t h i s l a w s u i t . The R e p u b l i c o f Cuba i s12 th e n e a r e s t s o v e r e i g n t o t h e s t a t e o f F l o r i d a .13 Mr. Ca s t ro s t u d i e d law a t th e U n i v e r s i t y o f Havana14 and ho lds a Docto r o f Laws d e g r e e . The U n i v e r s i t y15 o f Havana , founded in 1 7 2 8 , c u r r e n t l y o f f e r s a16 F a c u l t y o f Law. G i l l e s p i e would a c c e p t Mr. Cas t ro17 o r h is de s igne e as Judge ad l i t e m .18

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Yes.Do you b e l i e v e you have any c l a im s fo r

20 money damages a g a i n s t F i d e l Ca s t ro o r Cuba?21 A No.22 Q D id you w r i t e to P r e s i d e n t Barack Obama23 a b o u t t h i s c a se ?24 A Yes.25 Q Do you b e l i e v e you have any c l a im s fo r


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1 money damages a g a i n s t P r e s i d e n t Barack Obama?2

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No.Did you f i l e documents with J u s t i c e

4 Clarence Thomas o f th e Uni ted S t a t e s Supreme Cour t5 r ega rd ing t h i s l awsu i t ?67

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Yes.Do you b e l i e v e you have any c l a i ms fo r

8 money damages a g a i n s t J u s t i c e Cla re nc e Thomas?9

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No.Did you w r i t e t o Governor Rick S c o t t

11 abou t t h i s l awsu i t ?12 A Not s p e c i f i c a l l y a bou t t h i s l aw s u i t .13 There were o th e r t h in g s , b u t I d id w r i t e to Governo14 S c o t t , y e s .15 Q Do you be l i eve you have any c l a i ms fo r16 money damages a g a i n s t Governor Rick S c o t t ?17

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No.Do you b e l i e v e you have any c l a i ms fo r

19 money damages a g a i n s t any judge ass igned to t h i s20 case t h a t has n o t been f i l e d in th e l a w s u i t pending21 in th e Uni ted S t a t e s D i s t r i c t Cour t Middle D i s t r i c t22 of F l o r i d a , Ocala Di v i s i on?23

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Can you r e p e a t t h a t l a s t p a r t again?Yes.Do you b e l i e v e you have any c l a i ms fo r


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1 money damages a g a i n s t any j udge a s s i g n e d to t h i s2 case t h a t has no t been f i l e d a s p a r t o f th e l a w s u i t3 p e n d i n g in th e Uni ted S t a t e s D i s t r i c t C o u r t , Middle4 D i s t r i c t o f F lo r id a , Ocala Di v i s i on?5

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A Well , Judge N i e l s e n w a s n ' t added to th et h a t c om pla in t , if that's what y o u ' r e a s k i n g .

Q Do you b e l i e v e you have any money - -8 c l a im s fo r money damages a g a i n s t Judge N i e l s e n ?9 A I d o n ' t q u i t e unders t and what you mean b

10 money damages , b u t11 Q L et me c l a r i f y . Do you b e l i e v e t h a t12 Judge N i e l s e n s hou ld be o r d e r e d to pay you money13 damages fo r a n y t h i n g he has done t h a t you b e l i e v e14 wronged you?15 A E i t h e r t h a t o r it 's a m a t t e r fo r th e16 J u d i c i a l Q u a l i f i c a t i o n s Commission in th e form o f17 whatever k ind o f d i s c i p l i n e t h a t t he y mete o u t .18 Q A ll r i g h t . On th e b a s i s o f t h a t answer19 t h e n , I would ask you what c la im do you have a g a i n s20 Judge N i e l s e n t h a t you b e l i e v e he may owe you money21

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23 What do you b e l i e v e t h a t Judge N i e l s e n d i d t h a t24 e n t i t l e s you to make a c la im fo r money damages25 a g a i n s t him?


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1 A It would be t hose k inds o f c la ims , t he2 C i v i l Righ t s and ADA.3 Q What, s p e c i f i c a l l y , d id Judge N i e l s e n do4 t h a t v i o l a t e d your r i g h t s under th e Americans with5 D i s a b i l i t i e s Act?6 A I t h i nk he f a i l e d to r e s t r a i n your - -7 your b e h a v i o r t owards me t h a t was in v i o l a t i o n o f8 th e ADA.9 Q What p a r t of th e ADA governs my

10 i n t e r a c t i o n wi th you?11 A I t h in k when you o b s t r u c t someone based12 on t h e i r d i s a b i l i t y , t h a t t h a t might f a l l under13 t h a t .14

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T h a t ' s your answer?Yes - -

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Okay. What d id I do19 based on your d i s a b i l i t y ?

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to o b s t r u c t you

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1 d i s a b i l i t y b e c a u se my law f i rm a t one t ime2 r e p r e s e n t e d you?3 A Because you have a c c e s s - - first o f all,4 it's a smal l f i rm, a t h r ee - memb er - - t h r e e - p a r t n e r5 f i rm . And I r e c a l l r e a d i n g case law t h a t s a i d in6 t hose c i r c u m s t a n c e s it's r e a s o n a b l e to assume t h a t7 th e l awyers t a l k among t h e m se l v e s a b o u t th e c l i e n t s8 and t h a t th e l awyers have a c c e s s t o t h e c l i e n t s '9 files.

10 Q Do you have any p e r s o n a l knowledge t h a t11 a t any t ime t h a t my law f i rm was r e p r e s e n t i n g you12 t h a t I knew a n y t h i n g a b o u t you, o t h e r t ha n th e f a c t13 t h a t you came in one t ime an d I was i n t r o d u c e d to14 you on one oc c a s ion?

Can you r e p e a t t h a t a ga in?516

AQ Do you have any p e r s o n a l knowledge t h a t

17 o t h e r t ha n be ing i n t r o d u c e d to you one t ime d u r i n g18 th e p e r i o d t h a t my law f i rm r e p r e s e n t e d you t h a t I19 had any i n f o r m a t i o n a b o u t you , y o u r case o r y o u r20 m e d i c a l c o n d i t i o n s , w h a t e v e r t he y may be? Or a re21 you making an assumpt ion?22

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I t h i n k p a r t o f it i s a s su m p t i o n .Dur ing th e t ime t h a t my law f i rm

24 r e p r e s e n t e d you, d id I e ve r a ppe a r a t any25 d e p o s i t i o n s w i th you?


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1 A I t h i n k it was Chr i s B a r k e r t h a t a ppe a re2 a t th e d e p o s i t i o n w i th Mr. Cook.3 Q Th a t w a s n ' t my q u e s t i o n , Mr. G i l l e s p i e .4 My q u e s t i o n was: During th e t ime t h a t my law f i rm5 r e p r e s e n t e d you , d id I e v e r a ppe a r a t any6 d e p o s i t i o n s w i th you?78

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No.During th e t ime t h a t my law f i rm

9 r e p r e s e n t e d you, a re you aware o f me s i g n i n g any10 documents r e l a t i n g to y o u r c a se ?11

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No.Dur ing th e t ime t h a t my law f i rm

13 r e p r e s e n t e d you, d id Mr. Cook a t any t ime a d v i s e yo14 t h a t he had d i s c u s s e d your case w i th me?15 A Yes. I mean n o t j u s t you b u t th e - - th e16 t h r e e o f you.17 Q Did Mr. Cook a t any t ime tell you ,18 Mr. G i l l e s p i e , t h a t he , Mr. Cook, had d i s c u s s e d w i t19 me your med ica l c o n d i t i o n ?20 A I t h i n k what he s a id was he w i l l d i s c u s s21 t h i s c a s e w i th h i s p a r t n e r s to d e c i d e w h e t h e r o r n o22 t he y want to r e p r e s e n t me, and I g o t a letter back23 s a y i n g t h a t "we" - - meaning you and Mr. Ba rke r - -24 d id n o t want to t a ke t h e c a s e .25 I mean, I d o n ' t have th e letter i n f r o n t


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1 o f me, b u t Mr. Cook was r e p re s e n t i n g to me t h a t you2 f i rm and th e p a r t n e r s made a d e c i s io n , I g u e s s ,3 b a se d on my m e d i c a l r e c o r d s and th e f a c t s an d th e4 law t h a t you d i d n ' t want to t ake t h e c a s e .5 Q Do you have any p e r s o n a l knowledge a b o u t6 any how me and my two p a r t n e r s c o n d u c t o u r law7 f i r m ' s b u s i n e s s ?8 A O uts ide o f th e letters you p r o v i d e me an9 what Mr. Cook s a i d , no.

10 Q Do you have any p e r s o n a l knowledge t h a t11 Mr. Cook a t any t ime c o n s u l t e d w i th me a b o u t any12 c a s e s i n v o l v i n g you?13

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QJ u s t as I e x p l a i n e d b e f o r e .I s t h e r e any letter where Mr. Cook s a y s ,

15 " I spoke to Ryan C h r i s t o p h e r Rodems a b o u t y o u r16 c a s e , 11 Mr. G i l l e s p i e ?17 A No.

18 Q Anyth ing t h a t even r e m ote ly sounded l i k e19 t h a t ?20 A Well , when I g e t a letter t h a t s a y s t h a t21 "We have c o n s i d e r e d your c a se " and it 's j u s t22 Mr. Cook and h is two p a r t n e r s , I 'm assuming t h a t th23 t h r e e o f you made a d e c i s i o n .24 Q And on t h a t b a s i s you have r e p re s e n t e d to25 t h i s C o u r t - - numerous o c c a s i o n s - - t h a t I knew


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5 knowledge t h a t dur i ng th e t ime t h a t my law f i rm6 r e p re s e n t e d you, I knew any t h i ng about your medica l7 cond i t ion?89

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MR. CASTAGLIUOLO: It does seem l i k e th esame q u e s t i o n , Mr. Rodems.asked and answered .

It seems l i k e it's

MR. RODEMS: Well , I would l i ke ananswer t o t he q u e s t i o n .

MR. CASTAGLIUOLO: But he a l r e a d yanswered it.

MR. RODEMS: H is answer wasn ' t r e spons ivto th e ques t ion . I want to know if he hasp e r s o n a l knowledge t h a t I knew any t h i ng a bou th is medica l c o n d i t i o n dur ing the t ime t h a t Ir e p re s e n t e d th e law - - t h a t he was r e p re s e n t e dby my law f i rm .A No.

24 BY MR. RODEMS:25 Q Do you b e l i e v e you have any c l a i ms fo r


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1 money damages aga i n s t Judge Claud i a Isom?2 A As s e t f o r t h in th e l awsu i t .3 Q Okay. Do you be l i eve you have any c la im4 fo r money damages aga i n s t Judge Martha Cook?

A6 Who i s Judge Martha Cook ' s husband?

A Wil l iam Sedgeman.8 And do you unde r s t and t h a t he worked fo r9 a bank?

10 A He worked fo r a bank? Yes.11 Did you eve r have a bank accoun t a t any12 bank t h a t Judge Cook 's husband worked fo r a t any13 t ime?14 A Yes. I mean, when you say "worked f o r , "15 I th ink he owned th e bank o r was th e CEO o f th e16 bank .17 Q Did you a t any occas ion in t h i s l awsu i t18 whi le Judge Cook was pre s i d i ng ove r th e case ask he19 to r ecuse he r s e l f because you had a bus i ne s s20 r e l a t i on sh i p with he r husband?21 A Yes.22 Q Did you, in f a c t , have a bus i ne s s23 r e l a t i on sh i p with he r husband?24 A A bus i ne s s r e l a t i on sh i p with a bank t h a t25 i s i d en t i f i e d with him as he founded it, and he ' s


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1 th e CEO, in t h a t - - in t h a t se n se .2

3Q When d id you have a b u s i n e s s r e l a t i o n s h i p

wi th Judge Cook ' s husband? B e fo re t h i s l a w s u i t4 began o r a f t e r t h i s l a w s u i t aga in?5

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wi th Judge Cook ' s husband? Before Judge Cook becam8 th e p r e s i d i n g j udge o r a f t e r ?9

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A f t e r .Isn't it t r u e t h a t you opened a bank

11 accoun t in Judge Cook ' s husband ' s bank as a way to12 t r y and g e t h e r d i s q u a l i f i e d from t h i s cas e?13

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No.Did you open a bank accoun t a t Judge

15 Cook ' s husband ' s bank a f t e r th e t ime Judge B ar ton16 e n t e r e d a f i n a l j udgment a g a i n s t you in f a v o r o f my17 c l i e n t s fo r o v e r $11,000?18

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p l e a s e ?

Can you r e p e a t t h a t ?Can you r ead it ba c k ,

( R epo r t e r r eads a s r e q u e s t e d . )A Yes .

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1 " e x h a u s t e d , " p r o b a b l y a b e t t e r word i s I - - I went2 to a number o f them and d i d n ' t seem to - - w a s n ' t3 ab le to g e t a mo r tg ag e . And I was f a m i l i a r w i th4 t h i s bank even b e f o r e I knew t he pe op le be h ind it.5 J u s t because it was a f i x t u r e in my n e i g h b o rh o o d ,6 and it was a c o m f o r t a b l e l andmark . And I , you know7 went to a n o t h e r mar k e t to se e if th e f i n a n c i n g he re8 would be any b e t t e r t han in O c a l a .9 Q Did you a t th e t ime t h a t you opened th e

10 bank a c c o u n t know t h a t Judge Cook ' s husband worked11 t h e r e ?12 A J u s t - - I d i d n ' t know r e a l l y all th e13 d e t a i l s .

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(Re por t e r r e a d s as r e q u e s t e d . )I t h i n k so .What do you mean you t h i n k so?I ' m no t s u r e o f all th e d e t a i l s .D id you do any s e a r c h e s t o f i nd o u t who

22 Judge Cook' s husband was?23 A Wel l , I found t h a t o u t by - - you know,24 when I was s e a r c h i n g fo r d i s a b i l i t y i s s u e s .25 Q You found o u t th e name o f Judge C o o k ' s


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1 husband when you were sea rch ing fo r d i s a b i l i t y2 i s sues?

Yes.4

AQ And when was t ha t ? Before o r a f t e r Judg

5 Cook became th e pr e s i d i ng judge on t h i s case?67

A Well , Judge Cook seemed h o s t i l e t owardsd i s a b i l i t y . I was t r y i ng to unde r s t and why. So I

8 sea rched fo r Judge Cook and d i s a b i l i t y and l e a rn e d9 t h a t she had a daugh t e r t h a t was d i s a b l e d , and t h a t

10 Judge Cook a p p a re n t l y l i ked to speak to th e pr e s s11 about it and g e t s t o r i e s in th e p a p e r a bou t h e r12 d isab led d a u g h t e r and so fo r th and so on. And th e13 d a u g h te r ' s name has th e h u s b a n d ' s l a s t name, n o t14 Cook.15 Q And it was a t t h a t p o i n t t h a t you were16 do ing t h i s r e s e a r c h t h a t you became aware t h a t Judg17 Cook's husband was a f f i l i a t e d wi t h th e bank?18

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Yes.And it was a f t e r t h a t t h a t you opened a

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Yes.So you knew t h a t Judge Cook 's husband

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Yes .And then you moved to d i s q u a l i f y Judge

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r e l a t i o n s h i p with h er husband . Cor re c t ?A Th a t was one o f many - - a number o f

6 i s s u e s .7 Q And t hen you wrote a mot ion to d i s q u a l i f8 Judge Cook in which you r e i t e r a t e d i n f o r m a t i o n you9

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Well , Judge Cook p u b l i s h e d - Isn't t h a t t r u e ?Yes. I would add t h a t y o u ' r e t w i s t i n g i

13 and t a k i n g it ou t o f c o n t e x t .14 Q Mr. G i l l e s p i e , you p l a c e d th e name o f15 Judge Cook ' s da ugh te r i n to l e g a l f i l i n g s and a c c us e16 Judge Cook o f hav ing an i mos i t y towards d i s a b l e d17 p e o p l e , d i d n ' t you, s i r ?18 A And I e x p l a i n e d t h e b a s i s fo r t h a t , y e s ,19 b e c a u se in th e d i s a b i l i t y groups t h a t I have been20 i n v o l v e d w i th where you have p a r e n t s o f d i s a b l e d21 c h i l d r e n and a d u l t s w i th d i s a b i l i t i e s , t h e r e ' s o f t e22 a c o n f l i c t . And it's an u n d e r s t a n d a b l e c o n f l i c t ,23 and I b e l i e v e t h a t t h a t c o n f l i c t was th e b a s i s fo r24 d i s q u a l i f i c a t i o n .25 Q No, a c t u a l l y , Mr. G i l l e s p i e , what you


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1 were t r y i n g to do i s you were t r y in g to i n t i m i d a t e2 Judge Cook and make h e r s t e p a s i d e , w e r e n ' t you?3 J u s t l i k e

No.5

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6 h o s t i l e towards p ro se l i t i g a n t s and had a s a d i s t i c7

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D i d n ' t you file t h a t under o a t h , as w e l l ?Wel l , to answer your Judge Cook q u e s t i o n

9 she a c t u a l l y , from what I remember o f h e r r e s p o n s e ,10 a gre e d wi th me. And she wro te in h e r o r d e r o f11 d e n i a l s a y ing t h a t if you b r i n g t h i s back a g a i n12 w i th t h e p r o p e r - - I f o r g e t th e e x a c t t e r m i n o l o g y ,13 b u t if you b r i n g it back w i th th e p r o p e r14 c e r t i f i c a t i o n o r w h a t e v e r , t h a t sh e would d i s q u a l i f y15 h e r s e l f , so - -16 Q Your t e s t im ony i s Judge Cook agreed w i th17 you t h a t she was h o s t i l e towards d i s a b l e d p e o p l e ?18

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20 u n d e r s t a n d i n g was t h a t Judge Cook b e l i e v e d , by what21 I r e a d in h e r r e s p o n s e , t h a t she would f i n d t h e22 b a s i s fo r a d i s q u a l i f i c a t i o n on d i s a b i l i t y if I23 submi t t ed t he document in a d i f f e r e n t form.24

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T h a t ' s y o u r r e c o l l e c t i o n ?Yes.


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1 Q Do you b e l i e v e you have any c la ims fo r2 money damages a g a i n s t Judge Cook ' s husband?3

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5 money damages a g a i n s t Judge Cook?6 A Well , you 've asked t h a t a l r e a d y , and I -7 yes , as s e t f o r t h in th e f e d e r a l l a w s u i t .8 Q Okay. Do you be l i eve you have any c l a i m9 fo r money damages a g a i n s t Judge Arnold?

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15 a f f i l i a t e d with the T h i r t e e n th J u d i c i a l C i r c u i t t h a16 you b e l i e v e you have c la ims fo r money damages17 a g a i n s t t h a t you have n o t i nc luded as p a r t o f your18 f ede r a l l awsu i t ?19 A Well , I - - I c a n ' t r e a l l y t h in k o f anyon20 r i g h t now, no.21 Q Okay. Do you be l i eve you have any c l a i m22 a g a i n s t th e Marion County S h e r i f f ' s Off i ce fo r mone23 damages?24

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c o n fe r r i n g o f f th e r e c o rd . )A It's in th e trust's name.


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I made t h a t r e p r e s e n t a t i o n to Mr. Rodems,because it was my unde r s t and ing t h a t was whatyour t e s t i mony was going to b e .

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the one to j eopa rd ize h is p o s i t i o n , b u tMR. RODEMS: Well , l e t me ask th eMR. CASTAGLIUOLO: I may have

m is unde r s tood what he - -MR. RODEMS: P e r f e c t l y u n d e r s t a n d a b l e .

Unders t andab l e , Counsel .q u e s t i o n .

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1 p e r m i s s i o n .2 ( E x h i b i t 4 marked fo r i d e n t i f i c a t i o n . )3 BY MR. RODEMS:4 Q When I r e f e r t o t he t r u s t today , I 'm5 r e f e r r i n g to th e Revokab le I n t e r Vivos T r u s t6 Agreement t h a t a ppe a r s to have been c r e a t e d on7 F e b ru a ry lO th , 1997 . Do you see E x h i b i t 4,8 Mr. G i l l e s p i e ?9

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20 t h a t YouSue .o rg i s owned by t h i s t r u s t ?21 A My u n d e r s t a n d i n g t h a t - - I ' m n o t r e a l l y22 c e r t a i n a b o u t whe the r - - I mean, th e YouSue .o rg23 domain name does no t a ppe a r in th e t r u s t . I mean,24 t h i n k t h a t - - that's c l e a r from r e a d i n g t h e t r u s t .25 I ' m no t r e a l l y s u r e a b o u t what th e l e g a l s t a t u s o f


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1 domain names a r e . I know t h a t to me t he y j u s t seem2 l i k e an e x p e n se .3 Q Who - - who i s th e i n d i v i d u a l t h a t c r e a t e d4 th e domain name YouSue.org?

6 How d id you go a b o u t c r e a t i n g i t ?7 I t hough t abou t it.8 And t he n what d id you do?9 I r e g i s t e r e d it.

10 Where d id you r e g i s t e r i t ?

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