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<ul><li><p>7/29/2019 Did God Really Say That?</p><p> 1/76</p><p>Did God Really Say That?This article refutes the idea of the "Catholic Religion Proved by the Protestant</p><p>Bible."</p><p>Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he saidunto the woman, Yea,hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the arden! And the woman said unto</p><p>the serpent, "e may eat of the fruit of the trees of the arden# $ut of the fruit of the tree which is in themidst of the arden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the</p><p>serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die...% &amp;Genesis '#(&amp;)</p><p>*ver since the serpent in the arden the enemies of God+s truth have souht, throuh subtility and</p><p>deception, to cause God+s people to disobey Gods word. Lie common con&amp;artists, these impostors inpretense claim to have deeper understandin into God+s word, in order to ain our trust.</p><p>%... Yea,hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the arden!...% &amp;Genesis '#(</p><p>$ut the true intentions of these impostors is in their desire to mae the word of God of no effect.</p><p>%...And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die# ...% &amp;Genesis '#)</p><p>-n addition to layin aside the commandments of God to hold the traditions of men, there is another note</p><p>worthy characteristic of these impostors. hey mae promises that are not theirs to ive.</p><p>% /or God doth now that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as ods,</p><p>nowin ood and evil.% &amp; Genesis '#0</p><p>%"hile they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption# ...% &amp; 12eter 1#(3</p><p>%...And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.% &amp; 4att. (0#()</p><p>he followin was written in response to a tape called %5atholic Reliion 2roved by 2rotestant $ible% by</p><p>6eep the /aith, -nc. the tape is narrated by 7oel $lae, all 8uotes, unless otherwise noted, are his. - received</p><p>this tape by a friend of mine who wanted to prove the validity of 5atholicism to me.</p><p>Section A !ntroduction to the Roan Catholic Doctrine </p><p>he tape is introduced with the claims that Roman 5atholic doctrine is purportedly derived from#</p><p>(. he $ible &amp; what is e9plicitly or implicitly stated.</p><p>1. Available $ible material &amp; derived from history, tradition, catacombs.</p><p>'. he :oly ;pirit .</p><p>). he Lord?s presence .</p><p>his writin will be e9aminin these claims. he first two items will be directly responded to. "hether or</p><p>not the 'rd and )th items are accurate statements should become discernible by the time the followin</p><p>material has been covered.</p></li><li><p>7/29/2019 Did God Really Say That?</p><p> 2/76</p><p>Section A.#. Scri$ture</p><p>%o&amp; did 'esus re$ly to those &amp;ho taught &amp;hat scri$ture only i$lied( and did not e)$licitly state?</p><p>%hen was 7esus led up of the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. And when he had fasted</p><p>forty days and forty nihts, he was afterward an hunred. And when the tempter came to him, he said, -fthou be the ;on of God, command that these stones be made bread. $ut he ans&amp;ered and said( *!t is</p><p>&amp;ritten, 4an shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.?hen the devil taeth him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto</p><p>him, -f thou be the ;on of God, cast thyself down# for it is written, :e shall ive his anels chare</p><p>concernin thee# and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot aainst a</p><p>stone. 7esus said unto him, *!t is &amp;ritten again, hou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.? Aain, the devil</p><p>taeth him up into an e9ceedin hih mountain, and sheweth him all the indoms of the world, and the</p><p>lory of themB And saith unto him, All these thins will - ive thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.hen saith 7esus unto him, ?Get thee hence, ;atan# for it is &amp;ritten, hou shalt worship the Lord thy God,</p><p>and him only shalt thou serve.% &amp;4atthew )#(&amp;(.</p><p>Section A.+. Tradition</p><p>,hat &amp;as 'esus* re$ly to those &amp;ho &amp;ould teach "traditions" rather than the e)$ressly stated</p><p>scri$ture?</p><p>%hen came to 7esus scribes and 2harisees, which were of 7erusalem, sayin( ,hy do thy disci$lestransgress the tradition of the elders! for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. $ut heanswered and said unto them, *,hy do ye also transgress the coandent of God by your tradition!</p><p>/or God commanded, sayin, :onour thy father and mother# and, :e that curseth father or mother, let himdie the death. $ut ye say, "hosoever shall say to his father or his mother, -t is a ift, by whatsoever thou</p><p>mihtest be profited by meB And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. hus have ye made</p><p>the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Ye hypocrites, well did *saias prophesy of you,</p><p>sayin, his people draweth nih unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lipsB but their</p><p>heart is far from me. $ut in vain they do &amp;orshi$ e( teaching for doctrines the coandents of</p><p>en.% &amp;4atthew (0#'&amp;3.</p><p>hen the 2harisees and scribes ased him, ,hy &amp;al- not thy disci$les according to the tradition of the</p><p>elders... :e answered and said unto them, ?"ell hath *saias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written,his people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. :owbeit in vain do they &amp;orshi$</p><p>e( teaching for doctrines the coandents of en. or laying aside the coandent of God( ye</p><p>hold the tradition of en, as the washin of pots and cups# and any other such li-e things ye do.? And</p><p>he said unto them, ?/ull well ye reCect the commandment of God, that ye may eep your own tradition...</p><p>/a-ing the &amp;ord of God of none effect through your tradition( &amp;hich ye have delivered# and many</p><p>such lie thins do ye.% &amp;4ar #=&amp;('.</p><p>But &amp;here is one verse of scri$ture that &amp;arns against holding God*s %oly ,ord above tradition?</p><p>There is none0 But( does scri$ture not &amp;arn against the traditions of en?</p><p>%/orasmuch as ye now that ye &amp;ere not redeeed &amp;ith corru$tible things, as silver and old,fro</p><p>your vain conversation received by traditionfrom your fathersB $ut with the precious blood of 5hrist, as</p><p>of a lamb without blemish and without spot# "ho verily was foreordained before the foundation of the</p><p>world, but was manifest in these last times for you, "ho by him do believe in God, that raised him up fromthe dead, and ave him loryB that your faith and hope miht be in God. ;eein ye have purified your souls</p><p>in obeyin the truth throuh the ;pirit unto unfeined love of the brethren, see that ye love one anotherwith a pure heart fervently#Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the &amp;ord of</p><p>God, which liveth and abideth for ever. /or all flesh is as rass, and all the lory of man as the flower of</p><p>rass. he rass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away# $utthe &amp;ord of the 1ord endureth for</p><p>ever. And this is the &amp;ord &amp;hich by the gos$el is $reached unto you. ,herefore laying aside all...</p><p>hy$ocrisies... As newborn babes, desire the sincere il- of the &amp;ord( that ye ay gro&amp; thereby...% &amp;(</p><p>2eter (#(@&amp;1#.</p><p>%Be&amp;are lest any an s$oil you throughphilosophy and vain deceit( after the tradition of en(after</p><p>the rudiments of the world, and not after 5hrist.% &amp;5olossians 1#@.</p></li><li><p>7/29/2019 Did God Really Say That?</p><p> 3/76</p><p>%his second epistle, beloved,! no&amp; &amp;rite unto youB in both which - stir up your pure minds by way of</p><p>remembrance# hat ye maybe indful of the &amp;ords &amp;hich &amp;ere s$o-en before by the holy $ro$hets(</p><p>and of the coandent of us the a$ostlesof the Lord and ;aviour# 6nowin this first, that there shall</p><p>come in the last days scoffers, walin after their own lusts...% &amp;1 2eter '#(&amp;0.</p><p>%"hosoever therefore shall brea one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be</p><p>called the least in the indom of heaven# but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called</p><p>reat in the indom of heaven.% &amp;4att. 0#(3</p><p>%...These things teach and e)hort.!f any an teach other&amp;ise, and consent not to wholesome words,</p><p>even the words of our Lord 7esus 5hrist, and to the doctrine which is accordin to odlinessB %e is $roud(</p><p>-no&amp;ing nothing... whereof cometh envy, strife, railins, evil surmisins, 2erverse disputins of men of</p><p>corrupt minds, anddestitute of the truth... fro such &amp;ithdra&amp; thyself.% &amp;( imothy =#1&amp;0</p><p>%- chare thee therefore before God, and the Lord 7esus 5hrist, who shall Cude the 8uic and the dead at</p><p>his appearin and his indomB Preach the &amp;ordB be instant in season, out of seasonB reprove, rebue,</p><p>e9hort with all lonsufferin and doctrine. /or the time will come when they will not endure sound</p><p>doctrineB but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, havin itchin earsB And theyshall turn a&amp;ay their ears fro the truth( and shall be turned unto fables.% &amp;1 imothy )#(&amp;).</p><p>At &amp;hat $oint in history did tradition begin to be held as e2ual &amp;ith scri$ture?</p><p>%-n (0)0 at the 5ouncil of rent,the Catholic Church voted to hold tradition e2ual to the teaching of</p><p>the Bible.% &amp;Dr. /abian ;. Reinhart, in %/acts for Roman 5atholics%, p '@.</p><p>Section B ,ritten &amp;ord( Tradition and Pa$acy</p><p>Quote- "The Roman Catholic church existed 350 years before the New Testament was under one</p><p>cover !00 years before #rintin$ - which com#letely refutes the %ible only theory of today&amp;s 00</p><p>sects'"</p><p>The Bible says %his people draweth nih unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lipsB but</p><p>their heart is far from me. $ut in vain they do worship me, teachin for doctrines the commandments of</p><p>men.% and %Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord 7esus 5hrist, that ye</p><p>withdraw yourselves from every brother that waleth disorderly, and not after the tradition which he</p><p>received of us.% &amp; became possible, to</p><p>which the later development of the papacy was connected. he Donation atte$ted to reconstruct the</p><p>history of the Roan $a$acy in retros$ectin order to mae leitimate the ne&amp;ly gained ecclesiastical</p><p>and $olitical $osition of the $o$esafter the e9tinction of the "estern Roman imperial rein...</p><p>%-n this theory, the myth of $yFantium, the ?new Rome,? was reconstructed by a new myth of the 5hristianRome# the Roan bisho$( the ne&amp; lordin the 5hristian Rome, had taen over all functions of the</p><p>emperor himself...</p><p>%he Roman popes not only based their claim to form and lead their own church state on a spiritual&amp;secular</p></li><li><p>7/29/2019 Did God Really Say That?</p><p> 4/76</p><p>Cudicial understandin but they also created a theocracy within areas that until then were part of the</p><p>provinces of the $yFantine emperor. hey renounced a number of former imperial rihts and claimed them</p><p>for themselves. hey e9tended the secular claim of overnment of the church beyond the borders of the</p><p>church&amp;state and developed the so&amp;called theory of the two swords, statin that 5hrist ave the pope not</p><p>only spiritual power over the church but also secular power over the worldly indoms.%&amp;(ncyclo#edia%ritannica, (0th edition, (3@), Eol. ), paes 0((&amp;0(1.</p><p>(ncyclo#edia %ritannica, (0th edition, (3@), vol. ), pae )=@#</p><p>%5hristianity... The early Christian Church... of the first three centuriesturned decisively against the</p><p>state religion of Roe... because their religion could not be fitted into thepolitically sanctioned $agan</p><p>religious syste... 5onstantine, in the early 5thcentury... ended the persecution of the church and made it</p><p>itself the basis for the spiritual unity of the Roman *mpire. he church thereby becaethe partner of the...</p><p>state...</p><p>p )=#</p><p>%Doctrinal Orientations... he Roman church was stronly 7ewish&amp;5hristian in character and cobinedthis</p><p>character... with the basic orientation of the Roan vie&amp;of reliion... The legal character of Roan</p><p>religion &amp;as e)$ressedin the fact that the efficacy of the state cult ceremonies was dependent upon the</p><p>strictest observation of a wide variety of reulations. Later developments of Roan Catholic Christianityde$ended largely u$on the basis of this legal thin-ing...</p><p>%he develo$entof the "estern notion... of the priesthood is also dominated by the leal concept... -n the</p><p>sphere of this ind of leal thinin the papacy and the doctrine of papal primacy develo$ed. he idea of a</p><p>Curisdictional primacy played a prominent role in the forationof the doctrine of the papacy... On thebasis of this leal consciousness the "estern church also develo$edits own canon law... 7udicial thinin</p><p>was similarly sinificant in the theoloy of the "est... ertullian introduceda series of</p><p>fundamental Curidical concepts into theoloy... hrouh indulences, re8uiems, and other acts, the church</p><p>e)$anded itsspiritual&amp;Cudicial authorityeven to this realm of the departed souls of puratory...%</p><p>p )3(#</p><p>%-n the Roman 5hurch the $a$acy evolvedout of the monarchical episcopate... A leadin role develo$ed</p><p>upon the leadin bishop of the Roman community... his... oraniFation followed the provincial</p><p>oraniFation of the Roman *mpire. he theoloical underpinnin of this special position was emphasiFed</p><p>by 2etrine theoloy, which saw in the words of 7esus, ?You are 2eter, and on this roc - will build my</p><p>church? , a spiritual&amp;leal institutin of the papacy by 7esus 5hrist himself. -n the Gree5hurch of the *ast and also in Auustine in the "est, however, these &amp;ords &amp;ere referred</p><p>to Peter*s confession of faithB since the tie of $o$es Gelasius !, ;ymmachus</p><p>, and Greory - , these words have served as the foundation for the</p><p>claim of papal primacy over the entire 5hristian 5hurch.%</p><p>p 0@&amp;03#</p><p>%...here evolvedthe concept of caesaropapism...</p><p>%he Roan Church... $reservedin its episcopal dioceses the Roan $rovincial arrangeent... he</p><p>church larely depended upon the old imperial law... he Roman popes used this</p><p>power, which was in fact allotted to them by circumstances, to develo$a specific ecclesiastical state and to</p><p>base this state u$on a ne&amp; theocratic ideology&amp; the idea that the pope was the representative of 5hrist and</p><p>the successor of 2eter...</p><p>%he evolution of the Roan $a$acyinto an ecclesiastical state was not reconiFed by $yFantium </p><p>was instead understood as a $olitical revolt...%</p><p>Let it now be established that it is a historical( and &amp;ell docuented factthe Roman 5atholic 5hurch</p><p>has a lon history of attemptin to %reconstruct the history of the Roan $a$acy in retros$ect.% "hat</p><p>motive would the Roman 5hurch have to attempt to rewrite history and conceal the facts!</p><p>%5hristianity of 5onstantine was but of a very doubtful ind, the paans seein nothin in it to hinder but</p><p>that when he died, he should be enrolled amon their ods.&amp;</p></li><li><p>7/29/2019 Did God Really Say That?</p><p> 5/76</p><p>%$ut we have still to discover when and how the /ellow in the 5ap was incorporated into the 5hristian foldB why and how he disappeared as</p><p>thouh he had never been, and above all, where he has been livin and thrivin since the fourth century of</p><p>our era...</p><p>%hose earnest 5hristian /athers Fealously burnin and tearin up every scrap of written evidence as to the</p><p>nature of the cult they wished to e9terminate may, in soecases, enuinely have thouht that they were</p><p>savin humanity from the contamination of paanism. $ut these could only have been the most inorant of$ishops. The scholars could not have failed to -no...</p></li></ul>