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Difficult Dialogues: Rediscovering the Unifying Dynamism of Intellectual Integrity Steve Hays Dep’t of Classics and World Religions Ohio University, Athens With your smart phone, iPad, laptop, With your smart phone, iPad, laptop, etc., etc., go online to go online to www.rwpoll.com. Enter Session ID: Hays Enter Session ID: Hays Join Session. Leave data on Welcome Join Session. Leave data on Welcome page empty. Press page empty. Press Continue Continue . Wait. . Wait.

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Page 1: Difficult Dialogues: Rediscovering the Unifying Dynamism of Intellectual Integrity Steve Hays Dept of Classics and World Religions Ohio University, Athens

Difficult Dialogues:Rediscovering the Unifying

Dynamism of Intellectual Integrity

Difficult Dialogues:Rediscovering the Unifying

Dynamism of Intellectual Integrity

Steve HaysDep’t of Classics and World Religions

Ohio University, Athens

Steve HaysDep’t of Classics and World Religions

Ohio University, Athens

With your smart phone, iPad, laptop, etc.,With your smart phone, iPad, laptop, etc.,go online to go online to www.rwpoll.com.

Enter Session ID: HaysEnter Session ID: HaysJoin Session. Leave data on Welcome page Join Session. Leave data on Welcome page

empty. Press empty. Press ContinueContinue. Wait.. Wait.

With your smart phone, iPad, laptop, etc.,With your smart phone, iPad, laptop, etc.,go online to go online to www.rwpoll.com.

Enter Session ID: HaysEnter Session ID: HaysJoin Session. Leave data on Welcome page Join Session. Leave data on Welcome page

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Page 2: Difficult Dialogues: Rediscovering the Unifying Dynamism of Intellectual Integrity Steve Hays Dept of Classics and World Religions Ohio University, Athens

Difficult Dialogues concerning Religion

atOhio University

Difficult Dialogues concerning Religion

atOhio University

2006 Ford Foundation grant to encourage religious dialogue post 9/11.

OU’s particular purpose Not religious tolerance.Rather self-criticism and mutual respect via thoughtful shared inquiry: intellectual integrity.

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Today’s planToday’s planBrief sample of an approach used in Difficult Dialogues concerning Religious Beliefs. Merely suggestive, probably not readily replicable at other institutions.

Description of pedagogical structure and financial model. Almost certainly adaptable to many disciplines and many institutions. Basic pedagogical structure:

a) Lead instructor provides content and guidance via readings, lecture, etc.;

b) Discussion leaders guide small-group dialogues;

c) Graders grade weekly journals and alert faculty and discussion leaders to students who may be in crisis.

d) Individual students engage their integrity by accurately reporting dissenting views, then testing beliefs (their own first) both in dialogues and in weekly journal entries.

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An appeal to intellectual integrity

An appeal to intellectual integrity

What can a university offer students to help them with questions of religious beliefs?

Not specific answers.

Intellectual values, skills, and experience.

Analogue of the acid bath: A gold heirloom in HCl.

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Intellectual Incest:Belief without challenge becomes

inbred(from Presidential Primary Season 2008)

Intellectual Incest:Belief without challenge becomes

inbred(from Presidential Primary Season 2008)

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are needed to see this picture.

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The university is by nature an acid bath where we can escape intellectual

incest and practice intellectual integrity

The university is by nature an acid bath where we can escape intellectual

incest and practice intellectual integrity

• Our students and discussion leaders come to the class with beliefs about religion.

Some have acquired their beliefs from religious authorities (the priest, grandma, ...)

Some have learned their beliefs or attitudes from non-religious authorities or traditions (Richard Dawkins, grandpa, ...)

• -------------------------------------------------------------------

• A very brief example lesson

beliefs about authoritative scriptures within religious traditions.

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Poll Question #1.The Bible

Poll Question #1.The Bible

A. The Bible is the infallible (unerring) source for God’s own truth.

B. The Bible is not infallible. Much of what it says is demonstrably untrue.

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Poll Question # 2.Which of these books of the Bible

would you assert is infallible/fallible?

Poll Question # 2.Which of these books of the Bible

would you assert is infallible/fallible?

A. Elijah

B. Nahum

C. Micaiah

D. All of them

E. None of them

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Poll Question # 3. If a man lies with a woman having her monthly period, and has sex with her, he has made naked her fountain, and she has uncovered the fountain of her blood; both of them shall be cut off from among their people. (Lev. 20:18)

Poll Question # 3. If a man lies with a woman having her monthly period, and has sex with her, he has made naked her fountain, and she has uncovered the fountain of her blood; both of them shall be cut off from among their people. (Lev. 20:18)

A. This law is immoral and wrong.

B. This law must be true and good because it is contained in the infallible Scriptures.

C. This law used to be true and good but in Christian times it has been abolished, so now I am free to regard it as foolish and immoral.

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The Succession Mythfrom

Hesiod’s Theogony (700 B.C.)

The Succession Mythfrom

Hesiod’s Theogony (700 B.C.)Ouranos, the first king of the gods. He maintained his power by oppressing his offspring. Eventually Kronos castrated him because of his injustice

Kronos, the second king of the gods. He maintained his power by oppressing his offspring. Eventually, the Olympians led by Zeus overthrew him because of his injustice.

Zeus became king. Zeus distributed power among the gods and ingested Wisdom so that he would know what was right and wrong. Zeus is still king.

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Poll Question # 4.About Hesiod’s Succession

Myth

Poll Question # 4.About Hesiod’s Succession

MythA. I don’t believe what the Greeks

believed because science or responsible reasoning contradicts their belief.

B. I don’t believe what the Greeks believed because my religious beliefs contradict their belief.

C. I agree with the central belief Hesiod sets forth in this story.

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Discussion(normally 30-40 minutes, preceded by reading

assignment and 30-minute lecture)

Discussion(normally 30-40 minutes, preceded by reading

assignment and 30-minute lecture)

• Does rigorous thinking about these traditional religious texts (Bible, Theogony)

a)challenge some element of your personal beliefs;

•and /or

b)cause you to listen more carefully to beliefs expressed in a religious tradition that you had previously been inclined to dismiss as childish or absurd?

•I.e., Have you seen reason to suspect that some of your 24-carat Au might be pyrite, or that what you took as someone else’s fools gold might be the real McCoy?

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Goals of the DD courseGoals of the DD course

Not tolerance, but mutual understanding and deserved respect for valid insights

An escape from intellectual incest--the prison of “what every right person believes”

An experience of pursuing what is better, rather than trying to win arguments. [Socratic]

A deep awareness that others’ different beliefs often stem from a commendable commitment to something good.

A willingness to substantively challenge claims that don’t make sense in a way that is open either to changing one’s mind or continuing one’s challenge.

Extended experience of legitimately trusting the honesty and honor of “other” people and exercising one’s own honesty and honor: Integrity--what the university can do best.

An appreciation of ongoing creative tension.

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Transferability to other topics of general and transdisciplinary

interest

Transferability to other topics of general and transdisciplinary

interest

war/peace

climate change

social inequities (wealth, health care, ...)

food and population

capitalism, democracy, and justice, taxation

the benefits / dangers of science and technology

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Discussion Leaders / Graders

Discussion Leaders / Graders

Faculty

Faculty spouses

Retired faculty

Grad students

Community members

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ChallengesChallengesSeriousness and personal honesty are difficult to elicit and maintain.

Risks: Personal crises, family tensions, depression.

Appropriate instructional space: moveable seating, 100+ capacity, appropriate acoustics.

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Financial ScalingFinancial ScalingConfiguration Enrollment Total Cost

Cost per student

One tenured professor 20 $20,000 $1000

Tenured Professor + TA

[For comparison only]40 $25,000 $625

Professor, 2 graders*, 1 addn’l discussion

leader60 $27,900 $465

Professor, 2 graders*, 2 addn’l discussion

leaders80 $29,200 $365

Professor, 2 graders, 3 addn’l discussion

leaders100 $30,500 $305

Assumed Rates: Tenured Professor: $20K ($100K / 5)TA: $5K ($15K / 3)Grader: $2000 Discussion Leader: $1300

* Graders always serve as discussion leaders and are paid for both services.

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For further infoFor further info• [email protected]