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welcome What are we doing today ? Why? What happens next? Analysis What’s the neighbourhood like now? Vision What change would we like to see? Plan Where should we focus our attention? Design Refine and Define 2 3 4 5 1 Presenting revised designs based on: - your feedback on initial proposals - cost analysis - safety analysis We have refined the designs and present here Make small changes and focus on details e.g. tree species, art and tree guards

DIY Streets Haringey Designs (May 2011)

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What are wedoing today ? Why?

What happens next? Analysis

What’s the neighbourhood like now?

Vision

What changewould we liketo see?

Plan

Where shouldwe focus ourattention?

Design

Refine and Define

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Presenting revised designs based on:

- your feedback on initial proposals- cost analysis- safety analysis

We have refined the designs and present here

Make small changes and focus on details e.g. tree species, art and tree guards

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2. NEW Raised Table @junction of Langham/ Waldeck

This will help to reduce traffic speed and improve the pedestrian environment 1. A Change of Heart

We have dropped the idea of a ‘community heart’ at Waldeck Road and instead propose concentrating on Langham Parade as the community focal point.

3. NEW Raised Table @ junction of Carlingford/ Waldeck

This will help to reduce traffic speed and improve the pedestrian environment

5. Combining ‘Gateway’ and Junction treatment @ Stanmore and Waldeck (AKA ‘The Wish Bone’)This will combine a ‘gateway treatment’ and a road narrowing to slow traffic along Stanmore Road. We had previously suggested a separate gateway feature at the junction with West Green Road but there were issues with vehicle tracking and also we wanted to be economical so that we could include more features elsewhere in the neighbourhood.

6. NEW Gateway @ Carlingford Road

This will slow traffic along this ‘cut through’ route.

Also...we have had to re-think the paving pattern for the raised tables and junction treatmentsdue to cost and durability.We propose some alternative designs today...

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What you said about the initial proposals...

The ‘Knuckle’ (the cut through between Langham Parade and Downhills Park Road)

- A tree located on the corner of Mannock/Downhill might create a bad blind spot on an already dangerous curve in the road.

- I like design C but does a tree on the corner create a blind spot? Design is consistent with overall approach.

- I think most of these options would work well, but agree we need to be wary of creating blind spots on the bend (including for pedestrians). Its also imperative that we break up the two long straight runs on Mannock and Downhills to slow traffic well before the bend. Downhills Park Rd also urgently needs greenery to break up the grim urban look.

Mannock/Sirdar

- Corner pavements need to be extended and junctions made narrower. Small trees in concrete pots would also give drivers more clues about entering a different area.

- Junction treatment to corner of Mannock Road and Sirdar Roads is vital since high speed rat-run ends in Cul-De-Sac so fast driving cars have a 90 degree turn to negotiate with residents cars parked which creates blind spots.

Langham Parade:

- For me anything that visually signals that there are different types of users is a great way to encourage positive behaviours.

- Really like “road sharing” as a means of nudging drivers to control themselves (as opposed to more signs) - also creates a community space where pedestrians take priority.

The Wishbone:

- I suspect that without a kerb people may start to park on tree areas.

- We do want trees but make sure they do not lead to dark spots

- We love trees they soften the built environment.

- Yes please to trees!

- For families it is really important to have a kerb

- The kerb defines separate areas and I think leads to users feeling more protected in some areas and less in others. Mixing without specifying use would alter behaviour much more effectively.

- I prefer 5 as that area feels so wide open and exposed to the main roads – it would make the space feel less like a wilderness.

‘Waldeck Heart’ (the central section of Waldeck Road between Langham Road and Carlingford Road-

- Should be at Langham Parade

Carlingford/Stanmore:

- I really like both designs – junction should be broken up as much as possible since it is a horrible place to cross the road.

Gateways:

- The ideas are brilliant. Your visions show trunk guards, which are essential for this kind of area. I don’t mind the surface pattern but prefer “timeless” plain surface personally, but surface approach must be consistent across whole scheme.

- I agree, surface approach should be consistent across the whole scheme to give a sense of unity and underline the point of creating one neighbourhood. Trees please!

- Really pleased if all gateways included extra trees. Please more trees at Carlingford gateway which is very polluted because of proximity to bus station and Green Lanes.

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Also...we have had to re-think the paving pattern for the raised tables and junction treatmentsdue to cost and durability.We propose some alternative designs today...

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Junction of Stanmore Road + Waldeck Road - ‘The Wishbone’

A new ‘gateway’ to the neighbourhood:

• Raised build-outs from the kerb encourage slower vehicle speeds and make it easier for pedestrians to cross• Ornamental trees provide character and offer potential for bespoke artwork to give identity to the neighbourhood• Patterned block work changes the feel of the street and creates a more pedestrian friendly environment

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Junction of Stanmore Road + Carlingford Road

• Raised table slows traffic at this location (where most accidents are recorded in the neighbourhood)

• Tree planting creates a subtle and attractive ‘chicane’ to further reduce traffic speed

• Patterned block paving intentionally creates uncertainty for drivers and encourages them to approach with care

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Examples of how the tree guardscould be made ‘bespoke’

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Western Arm of Langham Road (towards Langham Parade)

• Two lane carriageway with passing width narrowed to 2.4m (7ft 9in) to reduce vehicle speed • This is just enough for a van / mini-bus to pass through • Emergency services will be able to unlock bollard for access• ‘Chunky’ bollards protect feature tree

Junction of Langham + Waldeck

• Raised table helps to calm traffic along Langham Road • Improves walking routes north to south through the neighbourhood• Ornamental trees create strong visual character and provide subtle chicane to further calm traffic speed.

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Typical vehicle dimensions

Example from LB Kingston (passing width of 7ft or 2.1m)

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Loss of Parking?

We anticipate the loss of 3 parking spaces on each side of the road.

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Junction of Langham Road + Belmont Road

Eastern Arm of Langham Road (towards Belmont Road)

• Two lane carriageway with passing width narrowed to 2.4m (7ft 9in) to reduce vehicle speed. • This is just enough for a van / mini-bus to pass through. • Emergency services will be able to unlock bollard for access.

A new ‘gateway’ to the neighbourhood:

• Narrowing in the carriageway signals arrival in a residential neighbourhood and calms traffic speed

• Ornamental trees provide character and offer potential for bespoke artwork to give identity to the neighbourhood

Typical vehicle dimensions

Loss of Parking?

We anticipate the loss of 3 parking spaces on each side of the road.

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Examples from Kingston and Central London

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Junction of Carlingford Road + Waldeck Road

Entrance to Carlingford Road from West Green Road

Junction of Carlingford Road + Crescent Road

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• Two lane carriageway with passing width narrowed to 2.4m (7ft 9in) to reduce vehicle speed. • This is just enough for a van / mini-bus to pass through. • Emergency services will be able to unlock bollard for access.

• Raised table helps to calm traffic along Carlingford Road • Improves walking routes north to south through the neighbourhood• Ornamental trees create strong visual character and provide subtle chicane to further calm traffic speed.

A new ‘gateway’ to the neighbourhood:

• Narrowing in the carriageway signals arrival in a residential neighbourhood and calms traffic speed• Ornamental trees provide character and offer potential for bespoke artwork to give identity to the

neighbourhood

Typical vehicle dimensions

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Carlingford Road

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Loss of Parking?

We anticipate the loss of 3 parking spaces on each side of the road.

Carlingford Road

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Should we close off Langham Place to motor vehicles?

you decide...

Yes put one sticker here

No put one sticker here

Also...There are plans to improve lighting in this area.

Bollard

Bollard

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The green space next to the sub-station This poster looks at the area which connects Langham Place with Downhills Road and Mannock Road.

We have called it ‘the knuckle’...

The pathway towards Downhills Park Road and Mannock Road

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• Existing cycle and pedestrian route to become shared path with less signage ‘clutter’• New ‘anti-skid’ surface treatment in ‘buff’ colour - see example below

Example of the surface treatment we are proposing

A new informal play space which references the railway which used to run through this area:

• New landscaping to provide play opportunities• New railway sleepers help to define the space and create informal seating• New planting to provide seasonal colour

Ivatt Way

Langham Place

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• Two lane carriageway with passing width narrowed to 2.4m (7ft 9in) to reduce vehicle speed

• This is just enough for a van / mini-bus to pass through. • Emergency services will be able to unlock bollard for

access.• Chunky bollards protect feature tree

Junction of Mannock Road and Boundary Road

• New circle feature (constructed using block paving) creates less certainty for drivers and encourages them to slow down as they approach

• Feature tree and new bollards reduces ability to make ‘wide and fast’ turn into Boundary Road and therefore also encourages drivers to take corner more slowly

• Feature tree also creates a ‘vista’ down Boundary Road adding to the ‘sense of place’

Please NoteThe same treatment as shown for junction of Boundary Roadand Mannock Roadis also proposed at the junctionof Mannock Road and Sirdar Road.

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Typical vehicle dimensions

Loss of Parking?

We anticipate the loss of 3 parking spaces on each side of the road.

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Mannock Road

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Junction of Mannock Road and Downhills Road

• Raised table helps to calm traffic along Mannock and Downhills Road • Improves walking routes north to south through the neighbourhood toward the Belmont Rec and School• Ornamental trees create strong visual character • New cycle racks• Existing street signage ‘clutter’ rationalised to improve ‘sense of place.• Paving blocks laid in a pattern creates ‘sense of place’ and challenges priority of vehicles over pedestrians

Entrance to Belmont Recreation Ground

New gateway to Neighbourhood and Belmont Recreation Ground:

• Avenue of trees extended beyond park boundary to ‘celebrate’ park entrance• Raised table helps to calm traffic along Downhills Road• Larger build-out provides increased safety for pedestrians• Paving blocks laid in a pattern creates ‘sense of place’ and challenges priority

of vehicles over pedestrians

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Downhills Park Road

Belmont Recreation Ground

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Mannock Road

Downhills Park Road

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Langham Parade

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Langham Road

Graham Road

The Tube

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Improved civic ‘heart’ to the community

• Avenue of mature trees provides ‘civic’ character • Retained and additional strips of granite (or similar) setts at entry points contribute to local

character and provide ‘rumble’ effect to encourage slower traffic speed• Paving blocks laid in a pattern creates ‘sense of place’ and challenges priority of vehicles

over pedestrians

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