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Sextant prostate biopsies predict side and sextant site of ex- tracapsular extension of prostate cancer. J Urol, 168: 105, 2002 11. Greene, F. L., Page, D. L., Fleming, I. D., Fritz, A., Balch, C. M., Haller, D. G. et al: AJCC Cancer Staging Manual, 6th ed. New York: Springer-Verlag, 2002 12. Wheeler, T. M. and Lebovitz, R. M.: Fresh tissue harvest for research from prostatectomy specimens. Prostate, 25: 274, 1994 13. Wheeler, T. M.: Anatomy and Pathology of Prostate Cancer, 2nd ed. New York: Lippincott Williams & Wilkins Co., pp. 587– 604, 2000 14. Hanley, J. A. and McNeil, B. J.: A method of comparing the areas under receiver operating characteristic curves derived from the same cases. Radiology, 148: 839, 1983 15. DeLong, E. R., DeLong, D. M. and Clarke-Pearson, D. L.: Com- paring the areas under two or more correlated receiver oper- ating characteristic curves: a nonparametric approach. Bio- metrics, 44: 837, 1988 16. Efron, B. and Tibshirani, R. J.: An Introduction to the Bootstrap. New York: Chapman & Hall, 1993 17. Harrell, J. F. E.: Regression Modeling Strategies With Applica- tions to Linear Models. New York: Springer-Verlag, 2001 18. Wheeler, T. M., Dillioglugil, O., Kattan, M. W., Arakawa, A., Soh, S., Suyama, K. et al: Clinical and pathological signifi- cance of the level and extent of capsular invasion in clinical stage T1–2 prostate cancer. Hum Pathol, 29: 856, 1998 19. Hull, G. W., Rabbani, F., Abbas, F., Wheeler, T. M., Kattan, M. W. and Scardino, P. T.: Cancer control with radical pros- tatectomy alone in 1,000 consecutive patients. J Urol, 167: 528, 2002 20. Cagiannos, I., Graefen, M., Karakiewicz, P. I., Ohori, M., Eastham, J. A., Rabbani, F. et al: Analysis of clinical stage T2 prostate cancer: do current subclassifications represent an improvement? J Clin Oncol, 20: 2025, 2002 21. Kattan, M. W., Eastham, J. A., Stapleton, A. M., Wheeler, T. M. and Scardino, P. T.: A preoperative nomogram for disease recurrence following radical prostatectomy for prostate cancer. J Natl Cancer Inst, 90: 766, 1998 22. Kattan, M. W., Zelefsky, M. J., Kupelian, P. A., Scardino, P. T., Fuks, Z. and Leibel, S. A.: Pretreatment nomogram for pre- dicting the outcome of three-dimensional conformal radiother- apy in prostate cancer. J Clin Oncol, 18: 3352, 2000 EDITORIAL COMMENT This nomogram is another in a now large number of predictive tools for cancer, and one of several for prostate cancer developed by Scardino et al. I have had some conceptual problems with prostate cancer nomograms and other predictive instruments which give probabilities for pathological stage or PSA recurrence. While the information gleaned from these tools will provide more precise information about risk stratification and, thus, facilitate the design and conduct of clinical trials, I am not sure how they help the patient or the physician treating him. For a patient or surgeon to know specifically that the risk of extracapsular extension or PSA recurrence is 50% or 20% may give the participants a sense of control, but it does not really help in the decision regarding choice of therapy because the appropriate clinical trials have not been com- pleted. Thus, even if the probability of extracapsular extension is close to certain by a nomogram, clinical trials have yet to enlighten us as to whether radiation or surgery with or without adjuvant therapies is better. Nor do these nomograms sufficiently help the surgeon (or arguably the radiotherapist) in planning the approach. Parenthetically this relative lack of completed clinical trials in local- ized prostate cancer compared to other solid tumors is a stigma that must be erased if genitourinary surgical oncology is to remain influ- ential in developing the future care pathways of cancers. Thus I would urge the leaders in genitourinary surgical oncology to support and/or participate in the SPIRIT trial, a randomized study of brachy- therapy vs radical prostatectomy for low risk prostate cancer (www.acosog.org). However this nomogram I immediately liked! Using their usual careful approach and data sets accumulated from Baylor and Sloan- Kettering, the authors analyzed the value of certain clinical and presurgical pathological parameters (eg clinical stage, highest Gleason sum, percent positive cores) and the individual and col- lective value in predicting extracapsular extension on an individ- ual side of the prostate as verified by pathological analysis after radical prostatectomy. They then constructed 3 of their now well recognized “Kattan nomograms:” 1) if only PSA level, clinical stage and highest Gleason grade on each side are known, 2) if percent positive cores on biopsy are also known and 3) (and the best) if percent cancer in all cores on each side are also available. Such information can help the surgeon (possibly with patient input) to plan whether to save the nerve bundle on a particular side or even to preplan for sural nerve grafting. How exactly this sided extracapsular extension prediction should be used of course can be individualized. The authors suggest that if the chances of extracapsular extension on a side are greater than 10%, the surgeon should be careful (eg go a little wider while pre- serving the bundle, be compulsive about frozen sections around the neurovascular bundle) and if the side has a nodule and greater than 50% calculated chance of extracapsular extension, that side (and the bundle) should be widely resected. Of course there are problems with this nomogram, a caveat the authors nicely express. Thus one does not know exactly where on a side the extracapsular extension might occur. Also this nomogram must be validated externally and with larger data sets. Finally there are those who still believe that surgical margins caused because of a nerve sparing approach make little difference in outcome. I vigor- ously disagree and congratulate the authors on developing a very significant and practical tool. Paul H. Lange Department of Urology University of Washington Seattle, Washington PREDICTING LOCATION OF EXTRACAPSULAR EXTENSION WITH NEW NOMOGRAM 1849

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Sextant prostate biopsies predict side and sextant site of ex-tracapsular extension of prostate cancer. J Urol, 168: 105,2002

11. Greene, F. L., Page, D. L., Fleming, I. D., Fritz, A., Balch, C. M.,Haller, D. G. et al: AJCC Cancer Staging Manual, 6th ed. NewYork: Springer-Verlag, 2002

12. Wheeler, T. M. and Lebovitz, R. M.: Fresh tissue harvest forresearch from prostatectomy specimens. Prostate, 25: 274,1994

13. Wheeler, T. M.: Anatomy and Pathology of Prostate Cancer, 2nded. New York: Lippincott Williams & Wilkins Co., pp. 587–604, 2000

14. Hanley, J. A. and McNeil, B. J.: A method of comparing the areasunder receiver operating characteristic curves derived fromthe same cases. Radiology, 148: 839, 1983

15. DeLong, E. R., DeLong, D. M. and Clarke-Pearson, D. L.: Com-paring the areas under two or more correlated receiver oper-ating characteristic curves: a nonparametric approach. Bio-metrics, 44: 837, 1988

16. Efron, B. and Tibshirani, R. J.: An Introduction to the Bootstrap.New York: Chapman & Hall, 1993

17. Harrell, J. F. E.: Regression Modeling Strategies With Applica-tions to Linear Models. New York: Springer-Verlag, 2001

18. Wheeler, T. M., Dillioglugil, O., Kattan, M. W., Arakawa, A.,Soh, S., Suyama, K. et al: Clinical and pathological signifi-cance of the level and extent of capsular invasion in clinicalstage T1–2 prostate cancer. Hum Pathol, 29: 856, 1998

19. Hull, G. W., Rabbani, F., Abbas, F., Wheeler, T. M., Kattan,M. W. and Scardino, P. T.: Cancer control with radical pros-tatectomy alone in 1,000 consecutive patients. J Urol, 167:528, 2002

20. Cagiannos, I., Graefen, M., Karakiewicz, P. I., Ohori, M.,Eastham, J. A., Rabbani, F. et al: Analysis of clinical stage T2prostate cancer: do current subclassifications represent animprovement? J Clin Oncol, 20: 2025, 2002

21. Kattan, M. W., Eastham, J. A., Stapleton, A. M., Wheeler, T. M.and Scardino, P. T.: A preoperative nomogram for diseaserecurrence following radical prostatectomy for prostate cancer.J Natl Cancer Inst, 90: 766, 1998

22. Kattan, M. W., Zelefsky, M. J., Kupelian, P. A., Scardino, P. T.,Fuks, Z. and Leibel, S. A.: Pretreatment nomogram for pre-dicting the outcome of three-dimensional conformal radiother-apy in prostate cancer. J Clin Oncol, 18: 3352, 2000

EDITORIAL COMMENT

This nomogram is another in a now large number of predictivetools for cancer, and one of several for prostate cancer developed byScardino et al. I have had some conceptual problems with prostatecancer nomograms and other predictive instruments which giveprobabilities for pathological stage or PSA recurrence.

While the information gleaned from these tools will provide moreprecise information about risk stratification and, thus, facilitate thedesign and conduct of clinical trials, I am not sure how they help the

patient or the physician treating him. For a patient or surgeon toknow specifically that the risk of extracapsular extension or PSArecurrence is 50% or 20% may give the participants a sense ofcontrol, but it does not really help in the decision regarding choice oftherapy because the appropriate clinical trials have not been com-pleted. Thus, even if the probability of extracapsular extension isclose to certain by a nomogram, clinical trials have yet to enlightenus as to whether radiation or surgery with or without adjuvanttherapies is better. Nor do these nomograms sufficiently help thesurgeon (or arguably the radiotherapist) in planning the approach.Parenthetically this relative lack of completed clinical trials in local-ized prostate cancer compared to other solid tumors is a stigma thatmust be erased if genitourinary surgical oncology is to remain influ-ential in developing the future care pathways of cancers. Thus Iwould urge the leaders in genitourinary surgical oncology to supportand/or participate in the SPIRIT trial, a randomized study of brachy-therapy vs radical prostatectomy for low risk prostate cancer(www.acosog.org).

However this nomogram I immediately liked! Using their usualcareful approach and data sets accumulated from Baylor and Sloan-Kettering, the authors analyzed the value of certain clinical andpresurgical pathological parameters (eg clinical stage, highestGleason sum, percent positive cores) and the individual and col-lective value in predicting extracapsular extension on an individ-ual side of the prostate as verified by pathological analysis afterradical prostatectomy. They then constructed 3 of their now wellrecognized “Kattan nomograms:” 1) if only PSA level, clinicalstage and highest Gleason grade on each side are known, 2) ifpercent positive cores on biopsy are also known and 3) (and thebest) if percent cancer in all cores on each side are also available.Such information can help the surgeon (possibly with patientinput) to plan whether to save the nerve bundle on a particularside or even to preplan for sural nerve grafting.

How exactly this sided extracapsular extension prediction shouldbe used of course can be individualized. The authors suggest that ifthe chances of extracapsular extension on a side are greater than10%, the surgeon should be careful (eg go a little wider while pre-serving the bundle, be compulsive about frozen sections around theneurovascular bundle) and if the side has a nodule and greater than50% calculated chance of extracapsular extension, that side (and thebundle) should be widely resected.

Of course there are problems with this nomogram, a caveat theauthors nicely express. Thus one does not know exactly where on aside the extracapsular extension might occur. Also this nomogrammust be validated externally and with larger data sets. Finally thereare those who still believe that surgical margins caused because of anerve sparing approach make little difference in outcome. I vigor-ously disagree and congratulate the authors on developing a verysignificant and practical tool.

Paul H. LangeDepartment of UrologyUniversity of WashingtonSeattle, Washington

PREDICTING LOCATION OF EXTRACAPSULAR EXTENSION WITH NEW NOMOGRAM 1849