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Reports: Sea stars decimated on West Coast —SoCal ravaged as mystery disease spreads south;
Saw hundreds last year, now none… got hit reallyhard — Mortality event like this never before
documented — “Uncharted waters… likes of whichwe haven’t seen” — Turning to ‘bacterial goop’
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Inside Sources: Fukushima crisis “actually far worse thananyone acknowledged… information withheld to preventpanic” – Professor: “Level of radiation was far worse than Navyofficers anticipated” – US gov’t shredded documents for 4days while drawing up plans to evacuate Japan — “Somebodywas obviously very worried”
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Japan Times, Jeff Kingston of Temple Univ., Apr. 4, 2014: Kyle Cleveland, my colleague [...]recently published a report […] a critical, but nuanced picture of a crisis that was closer tocareening out of control than is generally acknowledged. […] Naval officers […] discovered thelevel of radiation was far worse than they anticipated. Radiation gauges on the [USS Reagan]measured levels of radiation at 100 nautical miles off the coast that were 30 times greater thannormal. [Sailors report] significant health problems due to exposure to radiation […] Clevelandfinds that there was considerable disagreement between various U.S. agencies about theseverity of the risk […] Given that the U.S. government expanded the exclusionary zone inFukushima to 80 km and developed contingency plans for a massive evacuation while shreddingof documents continued for four days at the U.S. Embassy and military bases in Japan,somebody was obviously very worried. […] Some of his insider sources tell him that the crisis wasactually far worse than anyone acknowledged at the time and that information was withheld toprevent a panic. Cleveland concludes that Japan’s nuclear reactors should not be restarted.
Professor Kyle Cleveland, Temple University Japan: “[The navy was] more risk averse than eitherthe NRC (Nuclear Regulatory Commission) or State, and from day one was ringing alarms thatwere not entirely understood, not completely validated and not well received by the NRC andState. The navy was pushing the other federal agencies to take more aggressive actionsbecause their radiation measurements were indicating dose rates that were more significant thanwhat was implied by the abstract modeling […]”
Unidentified US Nuclear Expert: “Without a qualitatively different regulatory system, and in light ofhow Japan/Tepco responded to this crisis, Japan has not earned the right to have nuclearenergy. No critically minded and informed person can evaluate this disaster and look at howJapan has responded in the aftermath and have any confidence that Japan will use nuclearenergy safely. In the most seismically active country [...] even if Japan had a robust regulatorystructure and thoroughly integrated crisis protocols, nature conspires against the best-laid-plansof human institutions. And what Japan has is certainly not the best plan by any measure.”
See also: Anonymous U.S. Gov’t Nuclear Expert: Fukushima radiation levels were“astronomical… nothing containing release of radioactivity, it’s an unmitigated, unshieldednumber”
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ObviousApril 5, 2014 at 6:00 pm Log in to Reply
NRC .. FAILObama .. FAIL
JGov .. FAILJAEA .. FAILIAEA .. FAILAnd I will even go as far as to say
OECD .. FAILWorld Bank .. FAILAll banks loaning money to nuclear .. FAILUnited Nations .. FAILNuclear Industry At Large .. FAIL
All responsible parties ought hang your heads in absolute shame and be hauled off to jail forcrimes against humanity
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ObviousApril 5, 2014 at 6:12 pm Log in to Reply
Perhaps more importantly: Moniz was only appointed because he wouldensure that industry got their way with tax payer money and approvals for
outrageous utility scams. He really ought be thrown down the nuclear and oil well.Immelt, too.
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Obvious=US military=fail
CIA= fail
plans to evacuate Japan — “Somebody was obviouslyvery worried” (259)
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JPApril 6, 2014 at 8:39 am Log in to Reply
Obama=truth leaking out
Surely you jest. This coverup is far beyond your politics.
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+1000
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jp, they aren't my politics, but I was responding to obvious…yes, it is
a big deep hole…
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Your blind allegiance to Obama is truly hard tounderstand, as is also your pure hatred of Cheney-Bush.
To blame Cheney-Bush and give a pass to Obama is very dis-ingenious. Obama was in office when this happened, not Bush-Cheney. Obama fled the country and left his citizens to die. He is nobetter than the captain who fled the sinking cruise ship. Quitefrankly, the man is a coward.
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Japan Plans To Evacuate 40 Million Citizens; Russia Shocked; via A GreenRoad
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reactors), the Ongawa site (three reactors) and the Tokai site (one reactor). Themost serious damage occurred at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station.”
We have very little information on the state of the Nuclear reactors at those sitesat the time, and now. We certainly don't have the full story on how serious thesituation is.
http://enenews.com/us-commission-14-nuclear-reactors-at-4-sites-in-eastern-japan-were-affected-on-311-according-to-nisa-fukushima-daiichi-had-the-most-serious-damage-daini-onagawa-and-tokai-were-others
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ENENewsApril 5, 2014 at 11:43 pm Log in to Reply
AGR, you might want to edit your post that you linked to(http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/japan-plans-to-
evacuate-40-million.html) since the EU Times article you cite is afraud/hoax/sham/scam/piece of garbage which originally appeared here:http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1572.htm. If anyone is not familiar withthe 'stories' originating from that domain, do a bit of research into it.
Here's a few ideas on how to quickly spot one:
Hint 1: If the source is an anonymous Russian/Kremlin officials = huge redflag.
Hint 2: If it's on the EU Times = huge red flag.
Hint 3: If the links included do not provide proof of the serious assertionsbeing made, and no exact quotes from the source are included = huge redflag.
Hint 4: If it's 'major' new information about Fukushima that's been releasedand you are not seeing it excerpted on ENE = huge red flag.
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J.April 6, 2014 at 1:22 am Log in to Reply
I concur, and thank you for posting your advice. The articlelinked on Green Road is beyond implausible. It would be
virtually impossible to evacuate the Tokyo metropolitan area in a shorttime under any circumstances, and any attempt to evacuate even womenand children would take a very long time indeed. If such an effort wereundertaken, citizens would be moved to Kyushu and Hokkaido. The ideaof moving tens of millions of Japanese citizens to Chinese ghost cities isludicrous, and to territory held by Russia only slightly less unlikely.
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obewanspeaksApril 6, 2014 at 6:30 pm Log in to Reply
Correct and it's best they are left to fry and die..
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zogerkeApril 6, 2014 at 10:28 am Log in to Reply
admin, is there ANY way to edit posts?
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HoTatersApril 6, 2014 at 12:28 pm Log in to Reply
You might try writing off-list.
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Heart of the RoseApril 6, 2014 at 1:24 pm Log in to Reply
I would like to think that the Japan did at least for amoment consider the implausible.
Implying at least being weak souled as opposed to soulless.
(PS..What I learned from my dad..was that the news coming outof Russia..(and the CIA)..always has a grain of truth.(they prefer it that way)
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Heart of the RoseApril 6, 2014 at 1:28 pm Log in to Reply
I'm rereading…this series.
PROMETHEUS TRAP/ ‘Shadow units’ (21): Fukushimaplant chief criedApril 19 2013
(scroll down for series)
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201304190009
Very interesting..as names and places ..take form.After all ..we are all in our places ..now aren't we?
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HoTatersApril 6, 2014 at 12:25 pm Log in to Reply
Obvious, yes, you have named some of the less obvious players who haveFAILED. Failed to respect and provide even the minimum amount of
protection for all life on earth and our precious gene pool.
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Max SievertApril 5, 2014 at 6:30 pm Log in to Reply
Why they wrote "Unidentified US Nuclear Expert"? his name is Kyle CLEVELAND,he got a Ph.D. in Sociology and nothig else .
http://www.tuj.ac.jp/newsite/main/undergrad/about_tuj/faculty/kyle_cleveland.html
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ObviousApril 5, 2014 at 6:57 pm Log in to Reply
The point is: US regulatory and perhaps other staff shredded documentspertinent to the seriously critical nuclear event in Fukushima Japan (not to
forget that Monju may have spread MOX+ around the world prior to 311). Don't distractfrom the legal point which requires serious review by human rights and Navy sailorlawyers and others who may wish to join in lawsuits against the culprits.
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AFTERSHOCKApril 5, 2014 at 7:43 pm Log in to Reply
hate to tell you, Obvious, but when you submit those indictments, thatshredders just gonna start humming away. These governments have
zero concern for either citizenry or those who serve them. They're simply yuke-it-up on the way to the bank! We're three years into this any absolutely no laws(existing or otherwise) have been imposed on the international criminal networkthat brought this about. When today's ENENEWS comments are summarized forreview by the guys upstairs, there's gonna be a lotta laughter when they comeacross yours…
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ObviousApril 5, 2014 at 8:03 pm Log in to Reply
You are obviously not of the right mind, thought, or intent.
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AFTERSHOCKApril 5, 2014 at 8:06 pm Log in to Reply
well, may I'll join you and yours in one big hands around theworld. We'll think happy thoughts…
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ENENewsApril 5, 2014 at 11:21 pm Log in to Reply
Max Sievert, I've been familiar with Cleveland since therecent STS Forum. Very solid researcher and writer.
Thanks for trying to help, though reading through the article in theJapan Times makes it clear this quote is not by Cleveland, but froman unnamed 'American nuclear expert'… Any article that getsfeatured on ENE is read many times to make sure the most relevantexcerpts are not missed. Once the excerpts to be used areidentified, I read those excerpts several more times to determine aheadline. There may be a spelling mistake in a headline every nowand then, though I'm quite confident the comprehension is correctafter reading through the excerpts around a dozen times by the timethe post are made public.
I'll paste the JT excerpt for those interested: "Cleveland concludesthat Japan’s nuclear reactors should not be restarted. As oneAmerican nuclear expert told him, “…No critically minded andinformed person can evaluate this disaster and look at how Japanhas responded in the aftermath and have any confidence thatJapan will use nuclear energy safely. And in the most seismicallyactive country in the world, even if Japan had a robust regulatorystructure and thoroughly integrated crisis protocols, natureconspires against the best-laid-plans of human institutions. Andwhat Japan has is certainly not the best plan by any measure."
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SparkyApril 6, 2014 at 12:39 am Log in to Reply
ENEnews Admin, GREAT to see your sunny yellowposts again! We appreciate the research and
quality control that goes into all Enenews articles. Hands down,this is THE best resource on the web for reliable and relevantnuclear-related news. Thank you!
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DiscordianApril 6, 2014 at 9:01 am Log in to Reply
Hear, hear.
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boApril 6, 2014 at 12:44 am Log in to Reply
I'm trying really hard not to slobber all over this post
Keeping it short
Thank you admin
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rogerthatApril 6, 2014 at 9:55 am Log in to Reply
admin your attention to detail and facts is muchadmired, thank you
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califnative (NY)April 6, 2014 at 10:38 am Log in to Reply
WELCOME BACK ADMIN! I think we felt lost withoutyou, great to see you steering the helm again. Hope
your health is good and you feel strong as ever Missed you!
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StarbirdApril 6, 2014 at 5:14 pm Log in to Reply
ENE admin, your headline; "Fukushima crisis“actually far worse than anyone acknowledged…
information withheld to prevent panic”, says it all -The fact that the R. Reagan crew fell ill so quickly demonstrateshow deadly this poisoning of the Biosphere was –I sense that with the public admission of the 700lbs of weapon-grade plutonium and an undisclosed amount of highly enrichedUraniumhttp://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/03/24/national/japan-to-return-weapons-grade-plutonium-to-u-s/ that Japan issupposedly to return to the US, they are slowly conditioning thepublic to the TRUTH of what really exploded in R3 and R4.Too many people know, so the secret will come out anyway,sooner or later, and by having previously admitted they hadstores of weapons-grade material, the shock when they say"oh, by the way some of that weapons-grade material went upin smoke on 3/11, will be less of a shock."The actual cause of the blasts, according to intelligence
sources in Washington, was nuclear fission of warhead coresillegally taken from America's sole nuclear-weapons assemblyfacility. Evaporation in the cooling pools used for spent fuelrods led to the detonation of stored weapons-grade plutoniumand uranium."http://www.rense.com/general94/secbb.htmhttp://www.stormfront.org/forum/t835959/
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SadieDogApril 5, 2014 at 10:06 pm Log in to Reply
If you read the article, Cleveland is quoting an unknown nuclearprofessional. And a dumb one at that.
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Dick ShenaryApril 5, 2014 at 6:42 pm Log in to Reply
Obvious,
If what you say is so obvious, why is the whole world so blind?
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obewanspeaksApril 5, 2014 at 7:08 pm Log in to Reply
Shredding documents means conspiracy and collusion to create a scamand/or fraud was happening at all levels of government.
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fireguyjeffApril 5, 2014 at 7:19 pm Log in to Reply
obewan:Another thought…
The embassy was simply shredding sensitive documents unrelated to Fuku in casethey were told they were to be evacuated soon.
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obewanspeaksApril 5, 2014 at 10:20 pm Log in to Reply
Sensitive documents, yep, like I stated.
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whatamessaApril 5, 2014 at 8:27 pm Log in to Reply
..All I can say is … This catastrophe smells PUTRID,and wheneverPutrid is around,you can be assured the the good ol' U.S.A is involved.
that's the way they roll!!
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last reposthttp://nuclear-news.net/2014/04/05/australian-nuclear-lobby-manipulates-the-
internet-the-liberal-partys-nuclear-dreams-the-strange-case-of-dr-john-white-and-ignite/
this explains monbiots attack on busbyhttp://nuclear-news.net/2014/04/05/the-cuban-twitter-scam-is-a-drop-in-the-internet-propaganda-bucket/
HAve you seen where Alps has gone anyone? bloody waste of time and money..
http://nuclear-news.net/2014/04/05/adieu-free-speech-in-nuclear-france-areva-rules/
In line with Japans secrecy laws and the Trans Pacific treaty and trans atlantic treatiescoopyright laws (know you can see whu they NEED copyright laws and how they are gettingaround the opposition)
http://nuclear-news.net/2014/03/09/the-uk-follows-japan-in-determining-extent-of-nuclear-transparency-by-extending-secrecy-and-protecting-corruption/
qiuck mispelling so you know its me and this is the tip of the iceburg – ref Glen greenwald and friends
sorry about the multi link admin but they are a natural (not that i ususally gamble)
peace to all the enenewsers and keep the faith.. we are winning imo
just have to bust decommissioning by melting in nitric acid (causes NO2 pollution)
downwind from la hague and sellafield and we get this data to get the ball rolling….
http://nuclear-news.net/2013/04/28/supreme-court-hears-our-case-on-uks-illegal-air-pollution/wonder where all the nitrogen is coming from?
peace
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name999April 6, 2014 at 2:14 am Log in to Reply
ice wall is another waste of $. Who supervises these children in charge?
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CiscoApril 6, 2014 at 6:48 pm Log in to Reply
arclight2…"HAve you seen where Alps has gone anyone? bloody waste oftime and money."
Not for EnergySolutions and Toshiba. They cleaned up on the deal; because, it was nota pay for performance contract, just like all these other scumbag government suckingcontractors. The only guarantee these folks offer is cost overruns, "cleanup" not somuch. Hell, they all know they can't clean it up.
Fukushima to the nuclear crowd is the financial opportunity of the century…trillions willultimately be spent. It's all about the money. It's always about the money.
The costs on this clusterfu#k will rival the costs of any war to date. Sadly, the cost ofhuman lives will be more than all the wars combined. It is the beginning of the end of usand them.
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OntologicalApril 5, 2014 at 6:55 pm Log in to Reply
US Navy found out we here in the USA should have just stuck to shreddingevidence. Were ALL to blame over this with so many countries in violation of the
rather sketchy nuke laws, and regulations.
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obewanspeaksApril 5, 2014 at 7:10 pm Log in to Reply
We "all" will "pay" dearly too!
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weemanApril 5, 2014 at 7:11 pm Log in to Reply
, Japan has not earned the right to have nuclear energy. No critically minded andinformed person can evaluate this disaster and look at how Japan has responded
in the aftermath and have any confidence that Japan will use nuclear energy safely.Im luvin it, good one squire.
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AFTERSHOCKApril 5, 2014 at 8:15 pm Log in to Reply
question is, weeman, have ANY earned the right to this technology?! I cantake a step in any direction of the world and find crass violations of the
public trust and environmental crimes. What makes anyone think the Japanese are anymore incompetent than any others that think they can control nuclear power? Is itbecause the Japanese are at a loss to come up with any solutions to Fukushima? Wellthen, any other nation who thinks they've the means to fix this mess, please step onestep forward…
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whatamessaApril 5, 2014 at 8:54 pm Log in to Reply
EXACTLY…LOOK HOW THE U.S. is handling W.I.P.P. among others!
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m a x l iApril 5, 2014 at 10:49 pm Log in to Reply
Spot on, AFTERSHOCK! I'm surprised that no one else brought this upearlier. That the until now biggest nuclear catastrophe in history
happened in Japan and nowhere else is purely random. There is no reason toassume that the handling of such a catastrophe would be any better in any othercountry.
That opinion "No critically minded and informed person can [...] have anyconfidence that Japan will use nuclear energy safely" expressed by someone froma country which dropped two A-bombs on Japan is especially patronising.
We will hear this putting all the blame on Japan more often. They will try toamputate on leg (Japan) in order to save the patient (the nuclear industry).
The lesson to learn from Fukushima (for those who were uninformed on the topicor need a shock therapy to grasp anything at all) is to phase out nuclear powergeneration EVERYWHERE very quickly, in a matter of days, not years!
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AFTERSHOCKApril 5, 2014 at 11:56 pm Log in to Reply
appreciate the flowers, m a x l i…
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weemanApril 5, 2014 at 11:08 pm Log in to Reply
Answer is, no, Aftershock, don't screw with what you do not fullcomprehend or control, always been my stance.
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We Not They FinallyApril 6, 2014 at 12:41 am Log in to Reply
No one should be using this technology at all. "Atoms for Peace" was asham in the first place and that's never changed.
It's not "a right," and no one has "earned" it. It's a travesty against all of Mankind inANYONE'S hands.
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itsanuclearwarApril 6, 2014 at 3:04 am Log in to Reply
The US DOE is calling the shots in Japan/Fuku and have been since dayone. The blame should fall on the US and TPTB.
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fireguyjeffApril 5, 2014 at 7:12 pm Log in to Reply
Associate ProfessorKyle CLEVELAND, Ph.D.
SociologyTemple UniversityJapan Campus
He currently teaches the courses Sociology of Race and Racism and Ideology and SocialChanges in Japan.
Cleveland's research interests focus on Japanese popular culture and ethnic identity inrelation to globalization and social changes in contemporary Japan.
To his credit, he wrote about the US govt bureaucracy in terms of the many conflictingagendas about the realities vs delusions about Fuku.
His academic skills fit with what he wrote about, as he was not addressing technical issues,per se.
Why the title of Unidentified Nuclear Expert happened is a mystery, because he certainly isnot.
The See Also sub-link also makes reference to Anonymous source which turns out to be agood paper by Prof Cleveland also, so by no means Anonymous. Very misleading link title, forwhat ever reason.
I think that the story athttp://japanfocus.org/-Kyle-Cleveland/4075is a great rabbit hole for ene readers.
It reads like all of Watergate/IranContra/JFK/Enron as Fuku all condensed in to about 10pages of "OMFG, we were right all along…in fact…it is worse than we had estimated." in termsof how most of us here have processed the available data on Fuku.
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ObviousApril 5, 2014 at 8:05 pm Log in to Reply
Forensic audit of all nuclear technical political and scientific reports findingsand research ought reveal full complexity of issues at hand. Just do it.
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AFTERSHOCKApril 5, 2014 at 8:16 pm Log in to Reply
you must really like the sound of shredders…
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ObviousApril 5, 2014 at 9:57 pm Log in to Reply
The more they shred the longer their incarceration
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AFTERSHOCKApril 5, 2014 at 10:11 pm Log in to Reply
and just who, Obvious, do you think will be enforcing thoselaws? The same people that are doing it now?
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Angela_RApril 5, 2014 at 10:20 pm Log in to Reply
Its not a pretty picture and the cage closes in as oneexamines then discards, possible solutions. People need
more than the survival instinct.
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obewanspeaksApril 6, 2014 at 11:13 am Log in to Reply
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Alaskan IceApril 6, 2014 at 12:44 am Log in to Reply
@Obvious
+1
@AFTERSHOCK
The laws will be enforced after the financial singularity, sometime in thenext ten to one hundred years.
Thus, some culprits still believe they will likely predecease thatsingularity.
There was a time when I believed, as a young prosecutor, that the rankand file in LE and Intel were searching for their Robespierre. Now, I havecome to understand that to be a ruse countenanced by their superiors, aruse to keep their moralists motivated, but mostly a ruse by theirsuperiors to cover their asses when the financial singularity comes.
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AFTERSHOCKApril 6, 2014 at 11:08 am Log in to Reply
very reassuring to know, Alaskan Ice, that "…sometimein the next ten to one hundred years." we'll be seeing
justice carried-out upon the criminals who got us here. In themeantime, I'll just keep paying my ACA premiums, in anticipation ofthat dream…
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itsanuclearwarApril 6, 2014 at 3:09 am Log in to Reply
The link was good a little while ago. I didn't finish reading it and now it isgone. Too much truth.
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itsanuclearwarApril 6, 2014 at 3:21 am Log in to Reply
Found another link:http://fukushimaforum.wordpress.com/workshops/sts-forum-on-the-
2011-fukushima-east-japan-disaster/manuscripts/session-4a-when-disasters-end-part-i/mobilizing-nuclear-bias-the-fukushima-nuclear-crisis-and-the-politics-of-uncertainty/
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itsanuclearwarApril 6, 2014 at 7:19 am Log in to Reply
I spoke too soon, about the "too much truth". Kyle Cleveland states: "While U.S. governmental organizations that had even a cursory stake
in the crisis worked the event, the lead agency that provided consultation andsupport was the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC). From the onset of thenuclear crisis through the following year the NRC assigned over 200 staff statesideand sent a core team of 16 NRC staff and nuclear experts to Japan. In the earlydays of the nuclear crisis as concerns about plumes of radioactive gases waftingacross Fukushima became central, the NRC had remarkably little information withwhich to assess the reactor crisis, relying only on a streaming data feed fromTEPCO via the MEXT website, briefings by the Foreign Ministry and media reports.Because of the paucity of data and the lack of communication with TEPCO, theU.S. government quickly set up a parallel process of radiation assessment andbegan conducting radiation surveys, ostensibly to protect their personnel fromexposure as they worked tsunami relief efforts, but also because of a lack of faithin what TEPCO was conveying."
continued
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Heart of the RoseApril 6, 2014 at 7:36 am Log in to Reply
Good catch ..they have to tell some truths these days.But there is always an embedded ..pro-nuke, pro- industry
message.
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name999April 6, 2014 at 4:04 pm Log in to Reply
heart, you are so correct in the formula for disinformation: ameasure of
real news and info with some measure of lies and fake BS…back to the1940's at least.
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itsanuclearwarApril 6, 2014 at 8:20 am Log in to Reply
The NRC was there and getting first hand info from TEPCO, andthen falsifying what they reported to the public. The NRC Freedom
of Information Documents prove this. This Youtube video by Hatrick Penryexposes all.
"final analysis on Unit 4 hoax, evidence on Unit 3, Plume-Gate highlights"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqhWRNsrYxc
Here is a link to the NRC website and their "FOIAs Related to Japan'sEmergency" web page.
http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/foia/japan-foia-info.html
Here is a video from Hatrick Penry called "accessing the NRC FOIAdocuments" with tips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM_-UOH_JEk&index=44&list=PLr12fVuSeCiIAuSDuA9TYqaWyjPVPc-7b
So it turns out that Kyle Cleveland appears to be more "controlled opposition"serving TPTB and their nuclear agenda. What I have read so far of his articlemakes it appear that he is making up excuses to cover the US Governmentswrong doings in this matter.
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itsanuclearwarApril 6, 2014 at 8:54 am Log in to Reply
Should have read "The NRC was there and getting first handinfo from TEPCO from the very beginning, and then falsifying
what they reported to the public."
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rogerthatApril 6, 2014 at 10:26 am Log in to Reply
yup, a spinmeister. standard admin stuff, everything thesedays goes through the spin cycle
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cosmic charlieApril 5, 2014 at 7:37 pm Log in to Reply
Good to see the gloves coming off. Now, will it do any good? This kind ofmalfeasance drives people away from government so we wind up with psychos in
charge. I'm sure there are some officers on the Ronald Reagan that have seen enough to quitout of frustration.
So why have an EPA or a NRC if they are doing the opposite of what they are funded to do?It's worse than insane…….
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AFTERSHOCKApril 5, 2014 at 8:18 pm Log in to Reply
you've got it cosmic charlie. And I like that bike!
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whatamessaApril 5, 2014 at 10:56 pm Log in to Reply
Cosmic Charlieyou are right,more like corruption,immoral,and plain old evil,fricken sick!
Hope everyone wakes up soon.
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We Not They FinallyApril 6, 2014 at 2:01 am Log in to Reply
Yeah, Orwell only gave a tiny peek into the future. War is peace, bad isgood, down is up….
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JebusApril 5, 2014 at 7:56 pm Log in to Reply
If you read the article correctly, the "Unidentified US Nuclear Expert" references"As one American nuclear expert told him,"…
The tone of this seems to elicit that the worst has passed.
With radionuclide contamination lasting thousands of years, and uncontained releases to thisday, day 1121, each day adds to the sum total of this disaster.
It will never be over, Fukushima is forever…
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TheBigPictureApril 5, 2014 at 8:25 pm Log in to Reply
Shredded documents or not, our governments are letting nuclear thrive andexterminate life.
Not doing their job, at all. Not even testing the ocean.
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lindyApril 5, 2014 at 10:35 pm Log in to Reply
probably has something to do with our government & the UN playing GOD,with weather modification programs & geo-engineering. do some research
on HAARP high frequency active auroral research program, HAMP hurrican aerosolmetaphyscis program, weather warfare, SRM solar radiation management, SAGstratospheric aerosol geo-engineering. read section 8 to see how much tax $$ we arespending every year on weather mods at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:1:./temp/~c109GJfELh::, how about some sulphur & aerosol injection athttp://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=1351466&HistoricalAwards=false, or prof. david keith talking about dumping500K tons of aluminum nano particulates into the air http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7mjw50xB_A. the new name for the global warming scam is climate change. do youwonder what all those persistent, lingering trails left by jets are? they ARE NOTcondensation trails. http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org.
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RunningonloveApril 6, 2014 at 8:25 am Log in to Reply
Thank you Lindy for the links. One can only shudder at theunforeseen,
unaknowledged interactions going on now, between the stratospheric particulates
laid down by the geoengineers, and the radioactive particles blown into the sameglobal atmosphere mixing pot by Fuku.Keith and his "500K of aluminum" shill crap attempt to obfuscate the ongoing truth.Edward Teller suggested 25 MEGATONS of aerosols per year, way back in theearly 1990s, if I recall rightly…lets see, a good 15-20 years later, maybe half aBILLION tons of toxic crap wafting around and filtering down onto the planet. Nowpotentially radioactive to boot. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, doesn't it?I wonder how these characters sleep at night, and if they ever have nightmares.
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RunningonloveApril 6, 2014 at 8:30 am Log in to Reply
I forgot to add, for a little musical video relief, try this offering.. it'sa retake on the C&W classic "Ghostriders in the sky"
http://youtu.be/T-ql9dQ-Nx8
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lucius.corneliusApril 6, 2014 at 12:54 am Log in to Reply
Not even testing the ocean.
Of course they're testing, they're just lying about it. And those lies cannot be taken as'proof they're hiding something', the establishment lies even when it doesn't need to.It's now the standard response to most, if not all, public questions.
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Dr. GoodheartApril 5, 2014 at 8:36 pm Log in to Reply
At Fukushima Daichi, 3 Coriums Melted Out Of Containment, Compared To 1 MeltOut At Chernobyl ; via A Green Road
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/01/at-fukushima-3-coriums-left-containment.html
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dosdosApril 5, 2014 at 8:39 pm Log in to Reply
Let's arm all the children of the world with guns. Makes as much sense as Japanhaving nuclear generated power, and probably less harmful.
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VanneVApril 5, 2014 at 9:27 pm Log in to Reply
Does anyone really believe that dumping nuclear waste in the Pacific andelsewhere isn't causing all the terrible earthquakes?
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mairsApril 5, 2014 at 10:02 pm Log in to Reply
Earthquakes are mostly caused by plate tectonics. If they're from nuclearwaste, then why were there lots of terrible earthquakes before nuclear
power… before people evolved?
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JebusApril 5, 2014 at 10:17 pm Log in to Reply
With all due respects to everyone, my personal hypothesis is that themelting and displacement of unmeasured quantities of mass, fresh
water ice, shifting from one position on earth to another, is causing the earthscrust to settle and shift, generating the uptic in major earthquakes that we seetoday…
So, the excess heat generated by anthropologic activity, including nuclear power,is indirectly allowing the tectonic plates to shift, in ways that they could not beforehumans started burning down the house…
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VanneVApril 5, 2014 at 10:20 pm Log in to Reply
Why Have There Been So Many Earthquakes Recently?http://www.science20.com/between_death_and_data/why_have_there_been_so_many_earthquakes_recently-86312Wasn’t 1950-1960 the time of many atmospheric testing of nuclear bombs?
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lindyApril 5, 2014 at 10:32 pm Log in to Reply
probably has something to do with our government & the UNplaying GOD, with weather modification programs & geo-
engineering. do some research on HAARP high frequency active auroralresearch program, HAMP hurrican aerosol metaphyscis program, weatherwarfare, SRM solar radiation management, SAG stratospheric aerosol geo-engineering. read section 8 to see how much tax $$ we are spending everyyear on weather mods at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:1:./temp/~c109GJfELh::, how about some sulphur & aerosol injection athttp://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=1351466&HistoricalAwards=false, or prof. david keith talking aboutdumping 500K tons of aluminum nano particulates into the airhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7mjw50xB_A. the new name for the globalwarming scam is climate change. do you wonder what all those persistent,lingering trails left by jets are? they ARE NOT condensation trails.http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org.
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obewanspeaksApril 5, 2014 at 10:40 pm Log in to Reply
Yes, we certainly did some damage to the Earth during those 2053Nuclear Bomb tests and that latent seismic/bomb energy could
have been stored in the Earth and yes that stored energy could now beactivating plate movements and while being released.
If one looks at the Expanding Earth Theory they could find similar thinking ofhow the Earth expands and I believe that the Sun does play a role in theEarth's expansion. Massive amounts of energy are released and I believe thatenergy is drawn in through the poles by our magnetic field to our core whichthen helps convert that Sun energy to matter.
Walah an expanding Earth which depends on the Sun along with cosmicenergy and dust to expand. But when you introduce new free electrons to thismix in the form of manmade Nuclear Energy then that released energy wouldalso play a similar role in feeding the core and speeding up the process alongwith any plate movements, which should have instead taken hundreds ofthousands of years to activate.
Love theories..
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JebusApril 5, 2014 at 10:52 pm Log in to Reply
Another consideration are the massive quantities of spacedust that is captured daily by earths gravity and falls to earth
as matter. Not all of that is vaporized as kinetic energy and atmosphericchemical deposition brings that down to Earth too. The mass of thatalone, must be enormous…
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Angela_RApril 5, 2014 at 11:45 pm Log in to Reply
Jebus "another consideration are the massive quantitiesof space dust that is captured daily by earths gravity and
falls to earth as matter."
I wonder whether the magnetosphere might repel this. However,there is at times a breech in it. But I suspect repulsion would still beoperative, but don't know.
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We Not They FinallyApril 6, 2014 at 2:14 am Log in to Reply
The magnetosphere has already been damagedbig-time. There is also apparently (and I can only go
with what other, more scientific types have published)the likesof global warming on other planets, not touched by thenotorious species called humans. Like a system-wide shift forthe worse.
But there is also a predilection on the part of bad people/forcesto make chaos and destruction worse. That's one of the thingsI've been anticipating/fearing. That when the reality of massiveradiation finally breaks through, some "diversion" will come tomake it seem like something else or to send the blameelsewhere or to just throw people into so much chaos, thatnothing constructive can be done.
One would hope not. We'd just better hang on tight.
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obewanspeaksApril 5, 2014 at 11:57 pm Log in to Reply
These are important points as we are breathing in thisdust on a daily basis and lots of Earth. That's why we
have to clean everything so often. Just think of the pollen droppingout of the trees. Massive amounts during certain times of the year.
Ergo: It would be very bad to include/introduce RadiationContamination into that breath of dirty Earth filled with organics (ofthis planet) air.. Manmade is not organic..
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JoyBApril 5, 2014 at 11:03 pm Log in to Reply
Exploding nukes underground could certainly cause earthquakes,just as fracking causes earthquakes. But melting a reactor or
dumping barrels of rad waste off a ship at sea doesn't cause earthquakes.Any more than you jumping off a picnic table bench or spilling your kool-aidcauses earthquakes.
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VanneVApril 5, 2014 at 10:27 pm Log in to Reply
Between 1900 and present, the first 9.0 earthquake wasn’t until afterthe first atomic bomb in 1945.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/world/10_largest_world.php
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Angela_RApril 5, 2014 at 11:22 pm Log in to Reply
VanneV @ 10.20pm"Wasn't 1950-1960 the time of many atmospheric testing …."
actually in the southern hemisphere the French continued until Australia andNew Zealand took France to the World Court in 1973. From recall aninjunction was granted. France ceased above ground testing around 1974.
VanneV @ 10.27pm"The first 9.0 earthquake wasn't until after the first atomic bomb in 1945."
Yes, there are none recorded before 1945; quite a number though above 8.0.http://earthquakes.usgs.gov/earthquakes/world/10_largest_world.php
Unfortunately, we appear to have no records prior to 1900; so very littlehistory.
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mairsApril 5, 2014 at 11:23 pm Log in to Reply
So…. you're saying that all the 8.5's before the first atomic bombare chopped liver?
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itsanuclearwarApril 6, 2014 at 7:11 am Log in to Reply
Something I found on the NRC web site FOIA:
"What Went Wrong?" Overconfidence in BWR design – Japan's Nuclear Safety Commissiondid not require improvements implemented in U.S. in 1980s." Historical information was ignored. Japan trench produced earthquakes ofmagnitude 8 or higher four times in the past 400 years – 1611, 1677, 1793,and 1896, often accompanied by Tsunamis" Placement of diesel fuel tanks above ground on waterfront" History of falsified records by plant owner Tokyo Electric Power (TEPCO)"
Large quakes prior to the nuclear age.
http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1117/ML11175A295.pdf
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HomoluminaApril 5, 2014 at 11:51 pm Log in to Reply
Please check this out –
Neal Adams animationhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ
Theory about Expanding Earthhttp://www.dinox.org/expandingearth.html
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We Not They FinallyApril 6, 2014 at 2:07 am Log in to Reply
There are probably several links between radiation and earthquakes —maybe just not a direct line. Like radiation destroys the ozone layer which in
turn does this which in turn does that, and one of those steps causes an earthquake.
It would be GREAT to have that comprehensively spelled out. (And maybe it has been.I'd look.)
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name999April 6, 2014 at 2:21 am Log in to Reply
VaneV, sleepy and going to bed, but you have it here, the environment isbeing manipulated and
disasters are being created…yawn…nothing new in this but more innovativetechnology.
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itsanuclearwarApril 6, 2014 at 2:35 am Log in to Reply
lindy got it right. HAARP! What do you think caused the earthquake on 3-11in Japan? It was HAARP and the US Government/Navy. The proof is out
there for anyone to see.
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We Not They FinallyApril 6, 2014 at 2:37 am Log in to Reply
The earthquakes 10 kilometers deep are said to be the suspiciousones. I believe Japan was that. Also the recent new earthquake in
Chile.
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EApril 5, 2014 at 9:46 pm Log in to Reply
I was wondering if anyone was else was thinking that. Since we don't know how fardown these cores are they could be anywhere in the earth is it possible for the
molten fuel to hit molten rock and travel with it? And then what does it do? Isn't there an islandforming out in the Pacific just east of Japan that appeared a year or so ago? The answer is wedon't know because this has never happened before. If we can't control this power why isanyone with with a thought process even allowing this technology to continue? I try to wake up1 person a day to this and has been my goal for coming up on a year now. It's mind bogglingwe are allowing this to happen. And all we are doing is boiling water! Shut them all down!
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vital1April 5, 2014 at 10:03 pm Log in to Reply
"I try to wake up 1 person a day to this and has been my goal for coming upon a year now."
E, well done, the more people we educate the sooner change will happen.
We need educate people outside of these forums to the seriousness of this disaster.As MSM is not doing its job, we need to step up, and do it.
Get the message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster isquickly, and efficiently. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute thelifesaver.pdf or create your own, hand it out, mailbox it, Facebook it, Twitter it, or emailit. Think outside the box, put it on public notice boards, hand it out to people, or put itinto letter boxes when you go for a walk.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/lifesaver.pdf
Or use these resources Chemfood has provided. All you need is a printer, scissors,some thumb tacks and … viola! We all are info dispersers as well! Put them on noticeboards everywhere in the community. Get your local church or community organisationto help.
http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation/comment-page-13#comment-478924
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EApril 5, 2014 at 11:11 pm Log in to Reply
I can one up you on that. My girlfriend is one of the ones in charge ofthe San Antonio March Against Monsanto so I'm going use that
opportunity to drive the hammer down. I've gotten to the point where if people thinkI'm nuts and I can see it I tell them to prove me wrong. At the same time I try tobalance my life mentally and I'm finding it harder and harder. I don't understandwhy we would allow this. As I said… Mind boggling! You know when people juststart dropping dead from this maybe people will put down the Flappy Bird. I fear formy daughter everyday. I do this for her and the children of the world. It's so sad toread about the children of Japan asking if radiation is in their food. Shame onPrime Minister Abe…
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vital1April 5, 2014 at 11:48 pm Log in to Reply
"I try to balance my life mentally"
Yes, it is important for all of us to do that.
Live each day to the best, and have a positive attitude.
Act in love and kindness, not only to human beings, but to all life on theplanet.
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tsfwApril 5, 2014 at 10:59 pm Log in to Reply
How heavy is the molten fuel, is it likely to sink and start burning through theearth, or will it float around the ocean for a few thousand years. They must
know if it's a floater or a sinker? Anyone?
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We Not They FinallyApril 6, 2014 at 2:23 am Log in to Reply
W. No one even seems to focus on whether URANIUM floats or sinks.It's a heavy metal and apparently it sinks. So they measure the surface
water of the ocean and say, see how little radiation there is. But where theaerosolized uranium particles sink, they poison the plankton at the bottom of thesea, which goes up the whole food chain!
Don't know the answer to your question — and it might be a complex answer, evenon the part of a trained honest scientist, like maybe a geologist. But yes, we needto start thinking in WHOLES, in interconnected ecology and geology.
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We Not They FinallyApril 6, 2014 at 2:25 am Log in to Reply
tsfw (which is who I meant to address the above to) — just out ofcuriosity, why is your avatar Putin???
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Angela_RApril 6, 2014 at 9:30 am Log in to Reply
WNTF,
even though uranium is heavy, I would be very surprised if it sunk in theocean. Ships are heavy too and they float. Here is the explanation,http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why-doesn't-a-ship-sink?#slide=1
What has also likely killed sea life over the years could be the amount ofnuclear waste dumped in or near the sea over the years; it appears to havebeen a practice by many countries.http://www.csmonitor.com/1980/1014/101468.html(page)/2
ENE News referenced an article written by the Wall Street Journal in Januarythis year, about plutonium off the coast of California. I haven't got the link butit could be accessed via your browser.
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We Not They FinallyApril 6, 2014 at 2:19 am Log in to Reply
E: Yochi Shimatsu speculated SOMETHING like that. That when suchdangerous explosive stuff as fissioning coriums get trapped beneath the
earth, gasses can build up and explode.
It's seems simple logic that that COULD happen — completely unclear how likely that itWILL. Just seems like it's tempting fate way too dangerously.
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EApril 6, 2014 at 8:52 am Log in to Reply
Thank you for the name of that gentlemen. I've learned so much fromthis site and all the people commenting. I found this article while looking
up if Fukushima could explode again….
http://concienciaradio.com/fukushima/shimatsu_nuke_explosion_possible_at_fukushima.html
Pretty sure this is exactly what you were referring too.
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EApril 6, 2014 at 8:53 am Log in to Reply
http://concienciaradio.com/fukushima/shimatsu_nuke_explosion_possible_at_fukushima.html
Sorry the link messed up on the last comment
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DangerApril 5, 2014 at 10:01 pm Log in to Reply
A clarification if I may. When Fuku blew he U.S. set an 80 mile evac zone andmoved all non-essential military personnel off the island, jump-flights to air-craft
carriers in a quick evacuation. Protocols when evacuating a base include shreddingdocuments, as confidential information cannot be left lying about. The pertinent fact is that themilitary moved everyone off the island in a quick evacuation. Focusing on a standard practiceof shredding documents is not a cover-up, or pertinent.
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humptydumptyApril 5, 2014 at 11:58 pm Log in to Reply
…Unless some of those documents might have been related to a secretnuclear weapons program involving Japanese NPPs.
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obewanspeaksApril 6, 2014 at 12:16 pm Log in to Reply
Love your confidence and since there are 16,000,000 top secret docscreated every year in the US, I for one would have to say the US has plenty
of secrets to hide. I have bantered before about such documents and all these millionsof secrets. I was informed that the US is suppose to protect the US citizen's interests.Interests, what might that be with 90 military bases sitting on the islands of Japan?
The only purpose for the formation of the federal government was for the protection ofthe US shorelines from foreign invasion. I do not think Japan's military bases orGermany's or the hundreds of other military bases around the world are on what Iwould call the US shoreline. Certainly the middle east is not next to Florida or Cuba isit?
Interests appear to be what very large corporations want represented inside thesenations and our military is for hire to protect their/those perceived interests along withpresent and future business dealings. If that does not stink of collusion and corruptionat every turn along with ongoing conspiracy then I do not know what does my friend.
Now had the military responded to protect the US shores from the foreign invasion ofongoing Nuclear Radiation Contamination spewing out of Fukushima, then maybe, theywere doing their job of protecting the citizens of this country.
But alas 3 years and nada, nothing.
So just who is this massive foreign diplomatic presence all over the world and ourmilitary really working for?
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DangerApril 6, 2014 at 12:33 pm Log in to Reply
Communication is a tricky wicket here on ENE. My point was that themilitary followed emergency protocols. The fact of emergency protocols
being quickly implemented is the point of interest and that the reality on theground required an immediate physical military retreat of great logistical effort withno plan to return. This action is far more telling of the full understanding of theseriousness of the event. Whatever documents shredded may have includedsome communique of interest, but we plebes have no access even with FOI- wecan infer through the heavily redacted FOI documents of our stateside responseand see that the US was getting conflicting info from TEPCO and postulated amuch worse/realistic scenario.
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obewanspeaksApril 6, 2014 at 12:41 pm Log in to Reply
Understood..
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DangerApril 6, 2014 at 12:45 pm Log in to Reply
Military bases are U.S. territory, as are our Foreign Embassy- thatis why Julian Assange can maintain his freedom in the Ecuador
embassy within the hostile U.K.If we abandon an Embassy we shred the documents there as well. It isprotocol. Of course we are bad actors in many circumstances, deposinglegitimate Democracies, working through third parties to capture and torturein our secret prisons, paying out hundreds of millions in cash to warlords tode-stabilize and terrorize; the usual behavior of the US abroad. We are themonster that makes Godzilla wear tap shoes and dance over the environmentand creatures and peoples of the world.
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obewanspeaksApril 6, 2014 at 12:58 pm Log in to Reply
A constant state of war is not good for our environment or ourecosystem.
It's a child's mentality at best..
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AFTERSHOCKApril 6, 2014 at 1:12 pm Log in to Reply
appreciate your insights, Danger. You need to join in moreoften. BTW…what's the meaning of your avatar's graphic.
Looks to be a seal of some sort…
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DangerApril 6, 2014 at 3:35 pm Log in to Reply
thanks Aftershock. the avatar is part of a public artcommission I made years ago, it is an abstraction of the
Mayan calendar's Long Count aspect.
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DangerApril 6, 2014 at 3:35 pm Log in to Reply
it is seven feet in diameter
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AFTERSHOCKApril 6, 2014 at 1:09 pm Log in to Reply
awesome rant, obewanspeaks…
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April 5, 2014 at 10:04 pm Log in to Reply
And that's why they have to pretend that SFP 4 is still there, because to admit thatit was destroyed would have meant evacuating Tokyo, and all of the other horrible
consequences that it would entail. Instead just suppress all information and let the populationstew.
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Gen. Buck TurgidsonApril 5, 2014 at 10:14 pm Log in to Reply
In the early days of this fubar event there was talk a large central sharedfuel pool which I'm gathering burst into flames within hours of the tsunami.
Anybody have any info?
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We Not They FinallyApril 6, 2014 at 2:30 am Log in to Reply
Now we're into scary-scarier-scariest. Thought we had enough toprocess with reactors 1-4 all having their own separate spent fuel
pools. But I do seem remember that there was ALSO a shared fuel pool.
Haven't a clue what might have happened. Just that bad things happened toeverything else!
Incidentally, in NPP's here in the U.S., many also have outrageous tonnage ofspent fuel.
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Gen. Buck TurgidsonApril 5, 2014 at 10:07 pm Log in to Reply
Anyone who knows anything knows that this game was over for all of us when unit3 screwed the pooch.
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OntologicalApril 5, 2014 at 10:50 pm Log in to Reply
Correct. My first thoughts when I saw the R3 detonation was ELE. I havemade a similar statement in the past here. TY for your input.
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Angela_RApril 5, 2014 at 10:11 pm Log in to Reply
VannV
Ah, the chemistry that they avoided recognizing; 40% of the phytoplankton had alreadydisappeared by 2008. I hadn't fathomed why; guess it was the culmination of previous cesium.I wonder if there are up-to-date figures for the loss of plankton.
Thought I recently read of a load of iron being deposit in the ocean of the SouthernHemisphere, however I cannot find a link. But then I examine the iron that I think has leakedfrom the outer core. http://www.discovery.com/earth/oceans/atlantic-ocean-floor-unexpectedly-pumping-iron-130820.htm.Not only the fish will starve/poisoned, by the absorption of cesium by the plankton, but we arelosing a source of oxygen. Nitrogen is now more evident. Forgotten what stratosphere that ismanifesting in.
Shark attacks are increasing, (starving sharks perhaps). I recall the 50's in Australia, perhapsthe result of atomic tests.
The increase in earthquakes may be because of the stirring of the cores of the earth (no
doubt geologists are examining this), but there are other factors that could also be influencingthe earth.
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obewanspeaksApril 5, 2014 at 10:18 pm Log in to Reply
I like this one, but nobody else does. https://www.google.com/#q=expanding+earth+theory
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JebusApril 5, 2014 at 10:35 pm Log in to Reply
I do, it is a very compelling hypothesis. The video presentation is good.
Maybe irrelevent, but I have watched many acetylene torch caused iron droppingsexpand and bubble up larger as they solidify from a molten state.
The anti-thesis is that science knows what direction the plates are moving andthey seem to be folding under each other laterally and the diameter of the earthhas been fairly constant for the time that man has been able to measure it.
Which is a very short time in Earth's history.
Then there are the mountain ranges, easily created by either process…
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obewanspeaksApril 5, 2014 at 10:48 pm Log in to Reply
Jebus, glad you like it. I crossed/researched varied fields todiscover my support for this theory.
Where ever I looked there appeared to be tangible support/documentation forthis theory premise.
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Angela_RApril 5, 2014 at 10:38 pm Log in to Reply
Re: expanding earthI seem to recall an article on 'earth contraction' after an earthquake;
not sure now whether it was the Indonesian or Japanese mega-quake.
Maybe this will contribute to an explanation:http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/earth/surface_and_interior/plate_tectonics
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OntologicalApril 5, 2014 at 11:21 pm Log in to Reply
If the hollow earth theory is correct, and EQ / Solar data supports it,then expansion is the only answer for the incorrect theory of
uniformitarianism geology.
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HomoluminaApril 6, 2014 at 12:19 am Log in to Reply
I do Obewan, it is the only theory that makes sense within the big
picture, it is in alignment with fundamental principles of life – I justposted this here – see below, smiles. I think we are one fine pod here and I amalways sending love and peace out to my enenews community. I find it fascinatinghow everybody is holding a little puzzle piece – all of it is part of the picture – thatis how I see it since perception is projection. . . means we are all in our uniquenessa part of the solution, a little piece, but without it, the picture can not be complete.Every one here matters in ways we cannot comprehend. In my projection we arehere in touch with reality and therefore we are real, a part of the solution. Here iswhat I posted:Please check this out –Neal Adams animationhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQTheory about Expanding Earthhttp://www.dinox.org/expandingearth.html
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obewanspeaksApril 6, 2014 at 12:34 am Log in to Reply
Very Nice!
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16PennyApril 6, 2014 at 2:30 am Log in to Reply
OK, admittedly this is headed off topic. So extrapolating fromthe expanding earth theory, filling in below the expanding
universe theory, what if Earth was closer to the Sun long ago and as theplanets grow they move further out. I know sizes of the planets does notsupport that but I have no clue how dense the cores of the planets are.Perhaps they grow at different rates. Perhaps they collect different typesof space trash at different orbits. Perhaps Venus is next tospontaneously have life / evolution start there. Perhaps we are next toloose our oceans and become desolate like mars. So much to thinkabout.
I have heard of the space water theory and I am thinking in terms of asorter at a metal shred plant right now. What if different fractions orweights of atomic material gather on the different planets / moonsdepending on their density / gravity, distance from the sun, availability ofappropriate matter (someone closer isn't already collecting what theyhave an affinity for).
I recognize these thoughts might not be novel but it is new to me. Anyinsight from ENEer's?
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StaxApril 6, 2014 at 4:52 am Log in to Reply
Homological that Neil Adams vid is sound-succint and a bullseye.Thank.
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StaxApril 6, 2014 at 4:53 am Log in to Reply
typo sorry Homolumina.
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SocratesApril 5, 2014 at 10:14 pm Log in to Reply
Tried to cover up radiation because it is invisible and killed many more.
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Daisy207April 5, 2014 at 10:30 pm Log in to Reply
Again I ask – why isn't every home on the west coast being given radiation badges– for the front lawn, for the inside of the house and for each person to wear? 24
hour test. Maybe 5-8 per household. If they are high – which is just a simple photographicanalyses – then insist that they do the expensive tests. Data are needed so that people canmake informed decisions about whether to stay or leave. Japan is toast forever and they needto dig out those plans to evacuate. But the west coast may be in a slow roast and who knowshow far inland this extends. I have said from the beginning – there is no solution. We build atechnology with no idea what to do with the waste. What we have done to this earth in just thepast 100 years is unconscionable.
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Angela_RApril 5, 2014 at 10:47 pm Log in to Reply
Hi Daisy, "I have said from the beginning – there is no solution."If so, then surely that is the answer to your question
"What we have done to this earth in just the past 100 years is unconscionable." Yes.
Think Daisy, how come a very old book, thousands of years old, included a declaration:"I will bring to an end those ruining the earth."
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tsfwApril 5, 2014 at 10:57 pm Log in to Reply
Since when does any gvnt want their citizens to be informed?
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JebusApril 5, 2014 at 11:00 pm Log in to Reply
When they throw up, the false flag?
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HomoluminaApril 6, 2014 at 12:23 am Log in to Reply
Not we Daisy – I refuse, we have been enablers at best by not doinganything about it…
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We Not They FinallyApril 6, 2014 at 2:35 am Log in to Reply
Daisy, apparently they did not even issue radiation badges to workers atWIPP! Now they are all excited that FINALLY they are getting real-time
dosimeters for workers to wear. Apparently, they let them work for fifteen years and stillcounting, without dosimeters!
If anything is announced about the public at large having dosimeters or Geigercounters, it will be to discourage. Like people were told to NOT take iodine pills againstthe original plume coming in from Japan.
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fireguyjeffApril 6, 2014 at 3:45 am Log in to Reply
Why waste the tax payers money when WIPP will last 10,000 years?What could go wrong?
Hence, no real need for dosimeters.
Besides, the fork lift drivers were properly trained on how to duct tape puncturedcontainers.They all knew to always carry plenty of duct tape with them at all times.Safety first, always.
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obewanspeaksApril 5, 2014 at 10:49 pm Log in to Reply
That must have to do something with an apple..
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Angela_RApril 6, 2014 at 2:41 am Log in to Reply
"That must have something to do with the apple..:)"A parable obewan? I recall the first one I heard from my father re lying. "The
boy that cried wolf."He didn't explain it, but one learned to be obedient to its message. We crawl at first,then walk, later run…and finally we may be granted to fly with freedom, but withfreedom we need to be responsible.
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arclight2April 5, 2014 at 11:38 pm Log in to Reply
http://nuclear-news.net/2014/04/06/nuclear-hotseat-website-hacked-plea-for-support-from-libbe-halevey/
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JebusApril 6, 2014 at 12:13 am Log in to Reply
Here is a significant past ENENEWS thread that shows the severity of this disasteras it pertains to the core(s) being ejected from at least one reactor shortly after the
water was lost. Most likely from reactor three's nuclear explosion. Notice the multitude of linksto many reports of nuclear fuel tossed about the Fukushima compound and ejected up to amile away.
Reports of nuclear fuel rod pieces being ejected from Fukushima reactors and/or spent fuelpools – Published: February 25th, 2012 at 1:11 pm ET By ENENews
Several news articles and experts have reported that nuclear fuelpieces/fragments/flakes/particles were deposited onto the ground around Fukushima atvarying distances from the reactors and spent fuel pools after one or more of the explosions.Here’s a list of the reports that began in early April
http://enenews.com/pieces-nuclear-fuel-ejected
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alreadyconsidereddeadApril 6, 2014 at 12:26 am Log in to Reply
the general population clings to the single frayed hope that this was an accident
and not part of a bigger operation.this denial is what will allow the final phase of the Armageddon Operation to continueunopposed by the masses, as if there is a strand of hope left in such a forsaken future as wehave arranged.100 years of paper whores, of strawmen and tinmen and the wizards and lizards.I do not expect the people responsible for the nuclear wastelands or their henchmen to accepta path forward without them, nor will they be held accountable.It still amazes me they had not as yet utilized the warheads, so many creatures without a moralboundary and so many triggers for them to find.fuku them all. indeed, fuku them all.
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Sol ManApril 6, 2014 at 4:40 am Log in to Reply
This is a repost, as it seems relevant to where we are now with this very bad event.I want this to stand on its own and not as a reply to any other post. TY
"I did not know then how much was ended. When I look back now from this high hill of my oldage, I can still see the butchered women and children lying heaped and scattered all along thecrooked gulch as plain as when I saw them with eyes still young. And I can see that somethingelse died there in the bloody mud, and was buried in the blizzard. A people's dream diedthere. It was a beautiful dream… the nation's hoop is broken and scattered. There is nocenter any longer, and the sacred tree is dead."_Black Elk
From: Bury my Heart at Wounded KneeAuthor: Dee Brown
Thanks to all of you being here. I appreciate all of your input.
Sol Man
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4WarndApril 6, 2014 at 5:46 am Log in to Reply
Sol Man, an eloquent, moving, tragic recollection from Black Elk.
It reminds me of an image – from a film, distant – cannot remember the details, etcexcept this:
While knowledge of the nuclear weapons release is known by both mother anddaughter, in the sunlit bedroom of their San Franciscan home, pacific ocean in the fardistant, they proceeded to make their daughters bed, in silence, in the oddly backlitlight of their last morning upon this earth.
Thanks for your post and remembering it today.
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FXofTruthApril 6, 2014 at 6:39 am Log in to Reply
The truth here is NOTHING can EVER be believed from ANY government agency;corporation; media outlet; medical organization; financial organization; or even
history book; why….because they lie and will ALWAYS lie about EVERYTHING.
Show me one, just one political statement; one disaster relief plan; one historical event; onenews story; one business deal; that was ALL TRUTH and proven as such. Not one statementor situation has EVER been presented in the true light or proven as totally true!Some facts, photos, videos, statistics, etc., are always altered or omitted so the "spin" wasalways in a way that the presenter of the information could control and manipulate the Public.
So the corrected rule of thumb is:"Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see!"
People died and are dying because of the way this tragedy is being handled. These fools areworried about panic? Too bad. People should panic if their lives are about to end!
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Angela_RApril 6, 2014 at 7:37 am Log in to Reply
FXofTRUTH,you say "the truth here is that NOTHING can ever be believed from ANY
government agent", isn't that what Aesop's fable tried to teach us in the "The Boy WhoCried Wolf?" When caught too often in a lie, the danger then was that nothing would bebelieved…
I personally like to acknowledge when the truth has been told and make a demarcationbetween the truth and the lie. For to me, the truth should not be ever held to be a lie.
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atomicisthewordApril 6, 2014 at 9:40 am Log in to Reply
Angela_R,
The problem is that truth is a lie and a lie is the truth in this world. Dan certainlyknew this. Johnny divine spoke much on similar issues.
The love of wealth and reversal of humanity for wealth acquisition. Thepunishment of the ones who go out to destroy the environment. The greedy nerofamily bowing to the displeasure of humanity.
It's all happening now.
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Angela_RApril 6, 2014 at 9:53 am Log in to Reply
Hi atomicistheword, "The problem is that truth is a lie and a lie isthe truth in this world"
In their world, not mine.:)People are still seeking to make money from the exploitation of the earth, buttheir intention is to build wealth, not to kill themselves. However, I do think thatat least one of them knows where this is leading, and he is the 'son ofdestruction.'
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itsanuclearwarApril 6, 2014 at 8:47 am Log in to Reply
They are not worried about panic. There you go believing them. This isabout population control and nothing else. Think they give a rats ass about
us and if we were to panic? NO WAY! TPTB want us all dead. This is a nuclear waragainst us, all by design. People need to wake up to this fact. ALL of the evidence, ALLof their actions, eliminate ALL other possibilities. The plan is to wipe out the middleclass, create hardship and suffering for everyone that is still alive, living conditions sobad that the people will be happy to accept what they offer. Although the people will notget what they were promised. It's the New World Order. That is what Fuku is about.Don't ever underestimate the ones that are successfully killing you.
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atomicisthewordApril 6, 2014 at 10:01 am Log in to Reply
My friend the so called new world order started some great time ago. Itis not new, nor is it going to succeed. That is why the greedy pigs are
at the trough gulping indignation by the truck load. Their insane philosophy, if wecannot have it no one else can.
Their last desperate attempt to take ALL by enslaving humanity with technology,as they remove currency exchange and mark everyone with a devils device toswitch them on or off income streams. Alternatively using brain manipulationfrequencies to control the underlings. One or both.
Both will fail.
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Tung JenApril 6, 2014 at 9:33 am Log in to Reply
Way too much to say…. need helpful suggestions… system overload! Need tobreak from this and do some gardening.
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zogerkeApril 6, 2014 at 10:07 am Log in to Reply
breathe and garden and peace to you tung jen. none of us are useful if weare too overwhelmed…we all need respite.
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Shaker1April 6, 2014 at 10:09 am Log in to Reply
Tung Jen, I think gardening is a suggestion in itself.
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MMApril 6, 2014 at 10:00 am Log in to Reply
Looking at pictures of R3 destruction, I have not been able to locate the reactorpressure vessel lid (covered by debris or in the ocean?). I still am not clear if the
prompt criticality occurred in the spent fuel pool OR the reactor itself. Reading and watchingFairwinds and other sites leads me to believe it was the spent fuel pool that went, however theenergy of the explosion looks more focused as if from a cannon (pressure vessel). Anyonewith some info?
MM
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KingofthePaupersApril 6, 2014 at 10:01 am Log in to Reply
Fukushima crisis “actually far worse than anyone acknowledged… informationwithheld to prevent panic” – Professor:
Jct: Ah, it was to prevent panic that Stephen Harper turned off the fallout detectors on Mar 252011 before the nuclear plume hit BC to result in triple baby deaths. Lucky he didn't panicpregnant women and children into staying out of the nuclear rain. Seattlers got fuked withb150 hot particles per person in April, bet similar in BC! In my run for Prime Minister in the 2011General Election, my videos urged Canadians to "duck and cover."http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYEOvpWV5TtUTw3nNOKgncjnLsdcimasrFukushima General Election for Prime Minister Playlist
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Shaker1April 6, 2014 at 10:45 am Log in to Reply
"Without a qualitatively different regulatory system…"
The perspective here is what they have and had, isn't it? In essence, it says that nothing'schanged, the Japanese or world societal fortitude isn't there for change. No matter what thecausal physical trail that leads here, the sociologist or psychologist is amply qualified to makesuch statements. Stripped of anything other than the responsibility for the process that onemight give to any common citizen of societies that have allowed nuclear development on thisscale, I would think they are even more qualified than those who have intimate knowledge of
nuclear processes as they have no more to lose than any common man. There needs to be asense that comes from the immanently non-technical side who's intelligence can't be assailed.As interested as I am in physical technicalities I'm not going to cite physical examples of whynuclear is an obvious fail. Our arguements should come from the fact that we as humansaren't equipped to deal with the problems on a societal level. Even those reasons why wearen't so equipped are not important to the arguement, only that we aren't.
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SocratesApril 6, 2014 at 12:10 pm Log in to Reply
Tne US military was going to pull some 80,000 service and dependents out ofJapan. The evacuation zone was to be expanded. Then the work came down to
minimize so as to not create panic and, presumably. Economic loss to the nuclear powerindustry.
One must read the FOIA documents again. Read the NRC transcripts again, too. Realize thatthe coverup included misinformation bloggers and misdirection shills.
Three years later, news continues to leak out. What is more important is that radioactivesubstances will leak out forever.
Many people were injured and will eventually die in both Japan and North America to "save"the Nuclear Renaissance in effect sending us into the Dark Ages.
Nuclear bloggers are paid $200,000 per year to discredit anti-nuclear bloggers from what Ihave read. They try to infiltrate, too.
People will now seek to attach blame and help those injured children. The fat cats should pay,not the children. This will be a test of our justice system. Unless there is justice, then we willforce the most helpless and those serving our country to absorb all losses.
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Shaker1April 6, 2014 at 1:33 pm Log in to Reply
"Nuclear bloggers are paid $200,000 per year to discredit anti-nuclearbloggers from what I have read."
Really? You know, sometimes it severely tests my faith in intelligence that people don'tunderstand that if they sit beneath a goose for long enough, sure, they might berewarded with the occasional 'golden egg'. But to ignore the obvious need of the gooseto shit, to watch in fascination and envy as it's cleverly formed into an ovoid sculpturepainted gold and accepted as necessary tender…It's just gold-painted shit, and getsone just what other possessors of gold-painted shit will give.
May that justice be truly gold.
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AFTERSHOCKApril 6, 2014 at 2:48 pm Log in to Reply
brilliant, Shaker1…
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wildandfreeApril 6, 2014 at 6:58 pm Log in to Reply
Socrates, I think you are right "Many people were injured and will eventuallydie in both Japan and North America to "save" the Nuclear Renaissance in
effect sending us into the Dark Ages." Although I am beginning to think we are alreadyin our next dark age, seems that the next generation, the "tell me more about ME!"generation, will freak when cell phones and texts are limited or eliminated, seems theyhave little to say without a key board and even very much less than the dancing hippiesat Woodstock when they should be screaming at the top of their Plutonium filled lungs. Iwas just out on this wonderful afternoon in NV and saw my doc, said he was headed tosouthern CA for a fishing trip for yellow fin Tuna, I asked about his perception on on thebio accumulation of rads, he said he was taking stuff to get it out of his body, so eat up!
People can be so smart and really dumb in the same paragraph. Going to be hard oneveryone when reality sets in.
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HoTatersApril 6, 2014 at 12:24 pm Log in to Reply
"Unidentified US Nuclear Expert: “Without a qualitatively different regulatorysystem, and in light of how Japan/Tepco responded to this crisis, Japan has not
earned the right to have nuclear energy. No critically minded and informed person canevaluate this disaster and look at how Japan has responded in the aftermath and have anyconfidence that Japan will use nuclear energy safely. In the most seismically active country [...]even if Japan had a robust regulatory structure and thoroughly integrated crisis protocols,nature conspires against the best-laid-plans of human institutions. And what Japan has iscertainly not the best plan by any measure.”
Amen to that.
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wildandfreeApril 6, 2014 at 1:57 pm Log in to Reply
"Japan has not earned the right to have nuclear energy." With the response toincidents in the US and abroad, we need to realize that NO ONE has EARNED the
right to have nuclear energy. Who are we kidding? We are one crazy species, we canexercise critical thinking but we are not smart enough to realize critical limits. All efforts fornuclear energy should be directed towards safe closure of ALL facilities and a determinationof what to do with the crap we have developed to date. If we don't, we won't be around longenough to worry about it. As a matter of fact, I think we may be past that point now. Everyeffort should be made to stop this insanity. I will ask again… Who are we kidding?
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wildandfreeApril 6, 2014 at 2:11 pm Log in to Reply
Sorry ENEnewsers, should have read the previous posts of which therewere many, I was mad to think that the "Industry" thinks only Japan is is not
qualified. Others made the point, before. Thanks Admin for your great work and forproviding us the opportunity to speak out!
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NickApril 6, 2014 at 2:43 pm Log in to Reply
MM:
Unit #3 went kaboom. Reactor core innards have been found in areas of Japan far removedfrom the plant.
Japan is toast, and so is the rest of the planet.
There ain't no magical zeolite sodium bi-carbonate snake oil to clean this shit up.
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JebusApril 6, 2014 at 3:45 pm Log in to Reply
Here is a giant Database on the Research of Radioactive SubstancesDistribution…
Seems to be THE Japanese database…
http://radb.jaea.go.jp/mapdb_prev/en/
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SocratesApril 6, 2014 at 4:53 pm Log in to Reply
I remember that documents were shredded in anticipation of a military evacuation,not to cover up, as I recall. Memory is not as sharp as it was. But we should be
careful about third party statements that contain conclusions. Just sayin'….
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JebusApril 6, 2014 at 5:59 pm Log in to Reply
Seems that I remember that reactor #3 exploded twice according to a UN agency…
UN Agency: Reactor 3 exploded a second time 24 hours later — Then wind and rain broughthigh levels of radiation over Tokyo, Sendai, Nagano
http://enenews.com/un-agency-reactor-3-exploded-a-second-time-24-hours-later-then-wind-and-rain-brought-high-levels-of-radiation-over-tokyo-sendai-nagano
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obewanspeaksApril 6, 2014 at 6:23 pm Log in to Reply
Yummy and during the day and during the starlight too!
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JebusApril 6, 2014 at 7:07 pm Log in to Reply
Criticality
The Fine Line of Control
http://library.lanl.gov/cgi-bin/getfile?00285891.pdf
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MMApril 6, 2014 at 7:18 pm Log in to Reply
Jebus,
Thank you for the link. While it did not answer my question, it did take me for a ride. I can seethere are still lots of questions unanswered. I appreciate Nick's help too. Thank you.
MM
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VanneVApril 6, 2014 at 8:07 pm Log in to Reply
Japan ready to intercept any North Korea missile deemed a threatBy Nobuhiro Kubo
TOKYO Sat Apr 5, 2014http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/04/05/uk-japan-korea-missiles-idUKBREA3404L20140405hattip: http://www.cuttingedge.org/news_updates/newsupdatemain.html
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timemachine2020April 6, 2014 at 8:49 pm Log in to Reply
Yet the USS Ronald Radiagan is still in service. We all know that radiation leachesinto metal. What about all the radiated water pumped through the internal
plumbing of that once mighty ship? Do they actually think after a few scrubdowns that itmagically disappeared? I would not want to be serving on that or any other Tomodachiinvolved vessel. How many more will get sick from the residual radiation? That ship shoud bedecommissioned along with the others involved. Sure as hell isn't the NAVY I signed up forand served in.
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SparkyApril 6, 2014 at 10:20 pm Log in to Reply
@timemachine2020, "How many more will get sick from the residualradiation?" Many more! US Ronald Regan has become the nuclear poster
child/recruitment PR machine for feel-good, hip nuclear.
USS-R.Reagan educators next gen program, coming to your local HS:http://www.turlockjournal.com/section/17/article/24972/“…the staff backs the NJROTC program 100 percent. They can see the value inteaching a leadership course for high school students and our big thing is to teachcadets real life scenarios on what’s going to happen to them when they leave highschool,” said Major Kelly Cross, retired Marine Corps and NJROTC instructor."
"What's gonna happen to them" is that young people 18+ will be irradiated, their health,off-spring and futures nuclear fried in service to country and the nuclearwarlords/banksters that could care less about solders’ health, safety or theenvironment. Soldiers are property, nothing more, nothing less, to be used anddisposed of as the military see fit: all expendable.
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SparkyApril 6, 2014 at 10:21 pm Log in to Reply
Bastards! These educators are from my daughter’s h.s. Co-opt theleadership, counselors and students, all for the promise of a decent job
and subsidized education–which should be available anyway, w/o militarizednuclear pimping! My daughter knows better, but her less–informed, financiallystrapped friends do not. Nuclear never seems to miss an opportunity to switch-outa maximize a crisis to it's ultimate PR or "research" value.
Yeah, condemn more of our sons and daughters to disability and slow death sothe US can be the biggest, most stupid ape on the nuclear stage.http://www.nbcnews.com/#/news/asia/u-s-send-two-warships-japan-counter-north-korea-n72936
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SparkyApril 6, 2014 at 11:28 pm Log in to Reply
Everything TBTB and media have to say about Fukushima, andnuclear, are LIES.
They lied then, and are lying still: about Fuku, about WIPP, about Hanford,about your local NPP and nuclear waste dump.
“Despite the scare, officials said there was no indication that any of themilitary personnel experienced ill effects from the exposure, comparing it with"natural background radiation" that all people are exposed to daily.”
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/USaircraftcarrierreportedlysailsintoradioactivecloud/2011/03/14/id/389345/
The truth will out:http://enenews.com/tv-70-navy-sailors-apart-of-new-fukushima-lawsuit-could-be-thousands-more-who-were-seriously-exposed-1-or-2-getting-sick-could-be-a-coincidence-but-50-60-people-in-their-20s-off-one-ship-vi
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/20/sickened-by-service-more-us-sailors-claim-cancer-from-helping-at-fukushima/
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ftltApril 6, 2014 at 9:43 pm Log in to Reply
Do you think our Globalist Imperial masters care about our safety for one minute?There trillions to made to add to their trillions already owned.
Freedom!!!! Smash Globalism!!!
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obewanspeaksApril 6, 2014 at 9:46 pm Log in to Reply
Pretty sure it is the exact same Navy..
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NickApril 7, 2014 at 10:32 am Log in to Reply
"Fukushima alarmism is a bigger risk than radiation
4 September 2013 | By Stuart Nathan "
Read more: http://www.theengineer.co.uk/opinion/comment/fukushima-alarmism-is-a-bigger-risk-than-radiation/1017047.article#ixzz2yD92jYgi
"It’s been almost two and a half years since the Tohoku earthquake, which triggered thetsunami that swept across Japan, causing massive loss of life and destroying towns andvillages. The best-known, but perhaps least serious, consequence of the tsunami is back inthe news: the continuing efforts to contain radioactivity from the nuclear reactor meltdowns atthe Fukushima Daiichi power station."
http://www.theengineer.co.uk/opinion/comment/fukushima-alarmism-is-a-bigger-risk-than-radiation/1017047.article
Fukushima, …perhaps least serious?
Talk about a shill!
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SadieDogApril 7, 2014 at 10:23 pm Log in to Reply
80 sailors seeking $1 billion from Tepco…http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/7/us-sailors-sue-japan-utility-for-
tsunami-radiation/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS
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SadieDogApril 7, 2014 at 10:42 pm Log in to Reply
"The Japanese company says its “wholly implausible” military commanderswould rely on safety information from the utility." , Exactly!
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Just askingApril 7, 2014 at 11:46 pm Log in to Reply
Re Sadiedog How can compensation be payable when Tepco was not responsiblehttp://www.henrymakow.com/fukushima_-_what_really_happen.html
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