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This is one of those essential man skills, up there with shaving, and hunting a wild boar with a knife and a stick. Okay, the last one isn't as essential, unless you happen to be named Rambo and are forced into the hills by a malicious sheriff, but you really should know how to tie a tie. I'm going to teach you how to tie the two most basic knots, the four in hand and a mystery knot that I thought was a windsor, but which isn't. It is however better than both the half and full windsor, as it's more symmetrical. Upon further investigation, it seems closest to the Pratt knot, but unless someone can tell me differently, I'm just going to call it the Jeff knot. About This Instructable License: 33,525 views 59 favorites jeffreyf Follow Follow I like taking things apart and figuring out how they work. I generally loose interest after that. 32 Bio: More by jeffreyf let's make share what you share what you make > make > Explore Create Contests Community Login | Sign Up How to tie a tie 8/16/2014 http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-tie-a-tie-2/?ALLSTEPS 1 / 11

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  • This is one of those essential man skills, up there with shaving, and hunting a wildboar with a knife and a stick.

    Okay, the last one isn't as essential, unless you happen to be named Rambo andare forced into the hills by a malicious sheriff, but you really should know how to tiea tie.

    I'm going to teach you how to tie the two most basic knots, the four in hand and amystery knot that I thought was a windsor, but which isn't. It is however better thanboth the half and full windsor, as it's more symmetrical. Upon further investigation, itseems closest to the Pratt knot, but unless someone can tell me differently, I'm justgoing to call it the Jeff knot.

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    Step 1: The basics for both knots.....

    Lift the collar of your shirt. Place the tie around you neck.

    If you're right handed, you'll probably want the thin side on your left. If you're lefthanded, the opposite.

    The wide end should hang lower than the thin one. How much lower is going todepend on the length of the tie, and on your height. Ultimately you'll get the feel forit after bit of trial and error.

    Step 2: Four in hand: the beginning

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  • Cross the wide side over the thin side, bring it around the back, and return it to thefront. You'll have made a full loop when you're done.

    Step 3: Four in hand: up and through

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  • Pull the wide end up behind the loop you just made, and through the two halves ofthe tie, as shown in the first photo.

    Now take the wide end of the tie, and push it through the front part of the loop.When you're done, it should look like the last picture.

    Step 4: Four in hand: fishing touches

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  • Pull the wide end of the tie down, tightening the knot. Now grab the knot, and thethin side of the tie (the one in the back) and pull upward on the knot to move the tiehigher on your neck.

    Step 5: The mystery knot: the beginning

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  • Begin the Jeff knot just like the four in hand. In this case, since the knot is a bitthicker and uses more of the tie fabric, you'll want the thin end to be higher up (ie,the wide end will hang lower) than it did for the four in hand.

    Cross the wide side over the thin side, then bring the wide end up behind the thinside and over.

    Step 6: The mystery knot: make a loop

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  • Bring the wide side back behind the thin side and back around front, making aloop.

    Step 7: The mystery knot: completing the knot

    Just like the four in hand, bring the wide end up behind the the loop, and betweenthe two halves of the tie.

    Put the wide end through the front part of the loop, and pull down.

    Just as in step 4, grab the knot with one hand, the thin side with the other, and pullthe knot up to your collar.

    Step 8: What to do with the back side and notes on length

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    In all cases, the tie should hang at roughly the belt line and the knot should be fairlyflush with the collar. As I previously mentioned, you'll use the position/height of thethin end relative to the wide one to determine final tie length, and it may take a fewtries to get it right. Even after 12 years of wearing ties, I rarely do it perfectly thefirst attempt.

    The back of the tie should never hang below the front. That's a fashion no-no. If nomatter what you do, you can't get the both the tie to end at the belt line and theback of the tie to be shorter than the front, your tie is too long. Get a shorter tie.(They do come in different lengths.)

    Additionally, the back of the tie should never be flapping around. People used touse tie pins or clips to make sure of this, but most ties today either have a specificflap for the back part of the tie, or a label you can use in its stead.

    afadhil

    thanx

    jocloud31

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    The official notation for your mystery tie would be "Li Co Li Ro Li Co T" or "Leftin, Center out, Left in, Right out, Left in, Center out, Tie", which seems to be ayet unnamed knot, according tohttp://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~tmf20/tieknots.shtml (searching for the exactnotation above will take you to it's spot on the page".

    I like this knot, as it is a tidy, small, symmetrical knot. I'll support calling it the"Jeff Knot"!

    Void Schism

    Ah! I thought that was a half windsor!Well then, I've been tying a Jeff for years :)

    Joanassie

    The title of this step is fishing touches. Care to fix that, or should I attachsome fishing gear to it as if it's a hat?Otherwise, a fine instructable.

    mensties

    Hi, thank you for your great post. I really appreciate the efforts you haveput here .It is interesting and helpful. Good luck with it!!!http://www.ties-necktie.com/

    Warlrosity

    THANK YOU!! This one actully makes sense, and works! I stuffed up onthe first go but now I will try again!

    nk97

    Cool Instructable. Now I to can tie my new tie. Someone was going toteach me but I got impatient.

    steed1172

    what is the difference between the "four in hand" and the "mystery knot"

    if there is one anyways nice instructables (can tie my band new tie now )

    Ph3nomin0n

    I used to tie my tie (ew) like this and its good in quick situations, howeverI noticed it wasn't clean and professional looking. Ill be posting aninstructable soon on how to correctly tie a tie(ew again).

    Pie_eata

    thanks just tied my first tie (a Green Day American Idiot One at that :D)

    ElectrickChick

    Pretty Cool

    wyvren cow

    lol I just used that to tie a duct tape tie, thanks this really helped

    dhruvgaara

    thanx it was handy cuz i needed it for skool you are the best!

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    lemonie

    I have thoughs upon publishing 'How to tie a Dilbert tie', maybe I'll do it...

    bobbyk881 lemonie

    i wanna wear that that sound so cool

    jeffreyf (author) lemonie

    With wire?

    lemonie jeffreyf

    Yes

    MR.KNEX

    hey thanks i can finally tie a tie now.

    aneel

    I agree that the "Mystery" not is not the Half-Windsor or the Pratt. It's notlisted in The 85 Ways To Tie a Tie, probably because it doesn't meettheir symmetry criterion. If I am following the directions properly, it differsfrom the Half-Windsor in that its first move is inside-out, rather thanoutside-in, and the resulting knot has an extra loop around the left-handside.

    jeffreyf (author) aneel

    I think you are following the directions correctly, though I find it alot more symmetrical than either the Windsor, Half Windsor, orthe Pratt. All of those result in a fairly lumpy knot, unless one's tieis of very thin fabric. The mystery knot produces a slightly fullerknot than the four in hand, but still results in a a smoother resultthan the traditional Half Windsor method.

    munkey_b0y

    nice simple instructable. Just one problem, the 'windsor' you havespecified it actually only a half-windsor knot. A full windsor requires anextra turn through the neck loop and is really tricky to get the shape right.But it does command a little more repect in the office if you can get usedto it. You end up with a nice tight wide angled triangle for the knot that isunmistakable. perhaps this would make a nice addition to this alreadysound instructable.

    jeffreyf (author) munkey_b0y

    Quite right! I somehow forgot to do the extra turn whilephotographing. I'll update! (and get new pictures up shortly.)

    just_jeepin

    I've always just done the 'four in hand' and the knot always looks weird so I'llhave to practice the 'windsor'. As for the short end, I usually just tuck it into myshirt (just down from the knot).

    meddler

    You know i've been wanting to learn how to do this for a long timenow,clip on ties are getting kind of lame for me. This is simple andstraight forward thanks for the info.

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