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EN: First I'd like to ask a bit about Weirdo. Where did you guys meet and when did you decide toform a hip-hop collecti e!

KashJordan: I started Weirdo in 2013. I met with Wasif and Davey through Twitter and we made acou !e songs together. We shot the video for "ed# and I was !i$e !et%s ca!! each other Weirdo. &t first Ihated Wasif and I thought he cou!dn%t ra . Then he ra ed his verse on "ed and I was !i$e shit# this is

guy is great. I was ra ing a!one 'efore Weirdo too# 'ut nothing was ever wor$ing out !i$e weirdo did(EN: For you guys as a group who would you say are your biggest influences musically!

KashJordan: )mm. I%d say guys !i$e Kanye# Death *ri s# +oung Thug# ,uture# and -i! .

EN: I noticed on your "ound#loud the group is described as e$perimental. %ow important doyou think e$perimentation is to hip-hop as a genre!

KashJordan: /h god# very im ortant. I fee! !i$e I%m not going to invent a new sound right now# 'ut I dowant to e eriment with different sounds# f!ows# and su' genres of ra to ma$e something coo! andnew# 'ut a!so fami!iar.

EN: Who do you think is the most inno ati e in hip-hop in the conte$t of pushing the boundariesand creating their own sound!

KashJordan: )mm. "ight now I fee! everyone%s sound is co!!ective. 4veryone%s sound is 'orrowed fromdifferent things to create their sty!e . I haven%t heard anyone !ate!y that%s tru!y origina! and 'rand new...4 ce t -i! # may'e !aughs .

EN: &hat being the case what do you think of the state of hip-hop currently! I spoke with aformer "ony ()* who belie es artists aren't pushing boundaries enough do you agree withthat!

KashJordan: I !ove the state of hi ho . 4veryone is so weird now. efore the hy er mascu!inityro''ed niggas of e ression. I fee! !i$e a !ot of eo !e are ushing 'oundaries# 5ust no one is rea!!y!istening# or ho!ding what they%re doing to a higher standard.

+oung Thug for e am !e dresses how the fuc$ he wants# ma$es fuc$ing coo! ass music# and has ta$enf!ows to a who!e new !eve!. "ae 6remmurd doesn%t even rhyme sometimes. 6wae -ee%s verse in We isart# it didn%t rhyme at a!! and sti!! s!a ed.

EN: I'd like to e$pand on one of your points there you think it was important for hip-hop artiststo lose the obsession with hyper-masculinity in order for the genre to progress the way it has!

KashJordan: +es# I do. "a is ridd!ed with# !i$e# hy er mascu!inity# and misogyny. I even used tocontri'ute to that in my o!der shit. It stif!es you. 4veryone%s the 'iggest macho man they can 'e#everyone !oves women 'ut a!so hates women# and don%t rea!!y refer to them as eo !e 'ut $ind of !i$e

ri7ed ets and shit. It%s weird.

8iggas can%t e ress them se!ves 'ecause they%re so scared to 'rea$ away from socia! norms of whatmascu!inity is. )y er mascu!inity ro's men of 'eing in touch with a !ot of emotions# touch# co!ors#c!othes# and even some foods. Dudes won%t eat something 'ecause its not 9man!y9. I saw a dude ca!! a

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'ow! of fruit gay !aughs # that shit%s !ame now.

EN: +o you hope that yourself and Weirdo as a collecti e can help contribute to this shift awayfrom hyper-masculinity in rap!

KashJordan: Dude# for sure. I%m going to ma$e sure we do. -i$e# shit%s fuc$ed u and a !ot of men are

rea!!y fuc$ing weird 'ecause of societa! ressures. I won%t sto unti! a!! the homies can eat fruit# wear in$# and not view femininity as inferior 'ecause that retty much ref!ects their view on women asinferior;. Does that ma$e sense<

EN: It makes a lot of sense. I respect the fact that you' e got your eyes on the bigger picture andnot ,ust your music.

KashJordan: /h# for sure. 8ot even 5ust that# I !an on doing a !ot with my !atform. I%m gonna $ic$ thefuc$ed u rison systems% ass. I%m gonna $ic$ white su remacy%s ass. I%m gonna $ic$ systematicracism%s ass. I%m gonna $ic$ c!assism%s ass. I%m gonna $ic$ trans ho'ia%s ass. I%m gonna $ic$

eno ho'ia%s ass. I%m gonna fi the wor!d# we a!! gonna 'e o$ay after I%m in this. I 5ust gotta get on.

I wanna 'e on ,o 8ews son ing every'ody.

EN: ack on the topic of your music for a minute what's ne$t for Weirdo! +o you guys ha eplans for a new album mi$tape E or anything of the sort!

KashJordan: I%m current!y in =a!ifornia. I got fed u with my !ife so I >uit my 5o'# so!d a!! my shit#and moved here !ast month. I%m gonna do a !itt!e so!o thing# 'ut Weirdo is sti!! my 'ac$ing and shit.Wasif wi!! do the same over in 8orth =aro!ina. &fter 'oth our so!o 5oints are out we%!! ut out thehardest Weirdo ro5ect yet.

&!so# I hate the word mi ta e right now 'ecauce it turned into a derogatory term. It%s 'ecomesynonymous with 'eing a !ame no where ra er# so 4?s or ro5ects is the word I%d use.

EN: What's your solo pro,ect going to be like! (re you thinking of something similar in sound towhat you' e done with Weirdo!

KashJordan: Its gonna 'e weird. I%ve had this interna! com !e a'out how I wanna ma$e fun tra music!i$e +atchy# Thugger# and @7i... &nd then I wanna ma$e dee dar$ e erimenta! art shit. 8either ofthose rea!!y fit with Weirdo# so the ro5ect won%t 'e !i$e our !ast 5oint eh Ashrugs shou!dersA.

It%!! 'e my first ro5ect a!one# even thought I%ve 'een ma$ing music for !i$e three years.

EN: &hat's awesome. I'm e$cited to hear it. /kay I' e ,ust got a couple of general 0uestions forfun before we wrap this up. What are your top fi e fa orite albums all time across all genres!

KashJordan: ,rom @nder the =or$ Tree 'y ,a!! /ut oy# James !a$e%s first a!'um# Toro y Boi%s&nything in "eturn# +ee7us# and ,uture%s Bonster.

EN: Which artist would you consider to be your dream collaboration!

KashJordan: James !a$e# for sure.

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