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NAIC Partnership Update 2009. Agenda. DRA 2005 & Impact Partnership defined NAIC / Partnership Training state requirements training solutions. DRA 2005. Known for Medicaid eligibility changes Opened Partnership Programs to all states Requires new LTC agent training mandates. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Page 1: NAIC Partnership Update  2009

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NAIC Partnership Update 2009

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Agenda

DRA 2005 & Impact

Partnership defined

NAIC / Partnership Training

state requirements

training solutions

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DRA 2005

Known for Medicaid eligibility changes

Opened Partnership Programs to all states

Requires new LTC agent training mandates

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The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 and its impact on

Medicaid planning

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The basics… The look-back period has been increased from 3 to 5

years.

The start of the penalty for gifts made during the preceding 5 years begins on the date of application for benefits: there is no “credit” for the penalty which, under the old law started on the date the gift was made.

The use of Medicaid friendly annuities is still allowed but the state must be named the beneficiary.

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Continued…

The state can deny eligibility if a home has more than either $500,000 or $750,000 in equity.

Entrance fees in CCRC’s may have to be spent on nursing home care before Medicaid will pay.

States can now receive Medicaid waiver to establish partnership programs

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Winners & losers

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Increasing the look-back period

Winners The state. Nursing homes. Long-term care insurance: If people

want to protect assets they have to anticipate they will need nursing home care at least 5 years before they actually go in. That is next to impossible to determine.

Reverse mortgage companies: The family may decide to keep the person home longer and pay for it by taking equity out of the house.

Assisted living facilities: An ALF is cheaper than a nursing home.

Losers

Medicaid planning attorneys. With a 3 year look-back they can likely make a fee by telling the family of an institutionalized loved one that they only have to pay for this period. A 5 year look-back basically bankrupts the family.

A Medicaid plan i.e. gifting assets must not take place 5 years before applying for benefits. It is unlikely

the family will dispose of assets.

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Changing the start of the penalty period

Winners The state

Nursing homes: No more half-a-loaf equals more private pay.

Long-term care insurance: It is now very difficult to protect assets if a person is near to or actually in a facility. There is a strong incentive to purchase the product likely now supported by elder law attorneys.

Losers

Medicaid planning attorneys: a significant source of revenue was half-a-loaf. It’s now dead.

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Medicaid friendly annuitiesWinners

The state. See a trend here?

Nursing homes: In theory there should be more private pay patients. (See “Losers”.

Long-term care insurance: Promoters of these schemes regularly bad mouthed the product. Less Medicaid planning options = more LTCi if sold correctly.

Losers Nursing homes: Making the

state the beneficiary of the annuity does not help the facility; They still get the Medicaid rate.

Medicaid planning attorneys & annuity sales reps: annuities become less attractive if the state is the beneficiary

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No eligibility based on equity

Winners The state. Nursing homes. Home equity conversion

companies: The applicant will be forced to take money out of the house to reduce the equity to either $500,000 or $750,000 depending on the state

LTCI

Losers Families: They can’t hide

assets in a home anymore. Medicaid planning

attorneys: Another significant source of fees is eliminated.

Real estate brokers. No house means no commission.

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Entrance fees in CCRC’s

Winners The state.

CCRC’s: They can receive a private pay rate until the entrance fee is spent. See also “Losers:

LTCi.

Losers

Children: No more inheritance.

Medicaid planning lawyers: Although not used often purchasing a CCRC’s was a way to shelter large amounts of money.

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Partnership

Winners

The states Facilities and companies that

provide long-term care services.

Families: LTCi protects the family not the individual and protects lifestyle. Both are devastated when Medicaid planning is employed.

Losers

Individuals with substantial monthly income; partnership plans do not protect income

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Long Term Care Partnership Plans

DRA’05 repealed the “Waxman Amendment” that mandated estate recovery. This undermined the core purpose of partnership.

States now routinely receive the necessary waiver to establish partnership programs

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WHO ARE THE PARTNERS & WINNERS?

State It prevents those with assets from hiring Medicaid

planning attorneys to help them transfer assets and becoming Medicaid eligible from day one

Consumer Gives consumers strong incentives not to get rid of their

assets by offering protection if they purchase LTCi

Insurer/Agent State sponsorship & promotion translates into Increased

production

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WHO PAYS NOW?State governors’ concerns today focus on rising

Medicaid costsMedicaid: 49 %Medicare: 20 %Out-of-pocket: 18 %Private LTC insurance: 8 %Other: 5 %

* Source: CMS, Georgetown Univ. 2007 PIE Charts

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How Partnership works…Consumer buys private LTCI with a total benefit

value of $250,000

Consumer needs care

Consumer uses LTCI first

If they exhaust $250,000 and apply for Medicaid the program will disregard the first $250,000

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Example of Asset DisregardPartnership Policy

Assets Plan Payout Medicaid Spend Down

Example 1 $ 50,000 $ 50,000 $0Example 2 $ 200,000 $200,000 $0Example 3 $1,000,000 $500,000 $500,000

Non-Partnership PolicyExample 4 $200,000 $0 $200,000

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INFLATION SPECIFICS

Age 60 and under: • Some form of compound inflation protection

must be included

Age 61 – 75: • Some form of inflation protection must be

included

Age 76 +: • Must offer inflation protection • (but is not required for application)

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Partnership - NAIC Model Rules Producers must complete this new

training in order to sell LTC insurance

Even if already licensed in a Partnership plans state

Regardless of representing a Partnership policy

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NAIC Model Rules

The one-time training required shall be no less than eight (8) hours and

Ongoing training shall be no less than four (4) hours every 24 months

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States may modify these rules…

Each state has the right to adopt or modify the NAIC Model Regulation

Which creates normal chaos associated with a national program regulated by 50 Departments of Insurance 

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Critical Issues Interpretation of each state’s regulations

Understanding the options available to meet the training requirements

Having multiple training solutions

Answers: www.ClearCert.com

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What’s the training solution?

CLTC Partnership Training

www.CLTCPartnershipTraining.com

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Objectives

To develop and offer multiple training options that satisfy the state specific regulations that are: Simple Quick Effective

To educate producers how to: Present the subject of long-term care planning Establish a plan for long-term care Fund it, when appropriate, with LTCi

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Continuing Education

Classroom 8 hours Sign in/out No Exam Recorded 7-14 days

Correspondence Course/ On-line Exam triggers CE Proctor/Affidavit Recorded 24 hours

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Training Options: Classroom

8 hrs CE : entire CLTC/Partnership course

or

2 hrs Accelerated Prep Review (No CE)Prepares for On-Line course with Exam

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Training Options: Correspondence

On-Line course with exam State specific material included 8 hours CE from passing exam

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Questions?

www.CLTCPartnershipTraining.com

Gene Pressley 803-283-4620

[email protected]