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STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

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Page 1: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

STONE

INCITYTHE

Page 2: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Dr Tim Yates

BRE Ltd

Page 3: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stoneTim Yates, BRE

12th March 2008,

Stone in the City,

The Natural Stone Show 2008

Page 4: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Where do we begin ?

• Choosing by appearance – colour, texture, etc

• Meeting a required performance – strength, durability

• Performance or prescription?

• Trial and error?

• Past performance

• Testing and assessment

Page 5: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

How many types of stone are available?

• Locally – for example Bath Stone

–About 6

• Nationally – for example UK

–Around 250

• World Wide –

–Over 8000

Page 6: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Where do we begin ?

Stone properties

Project needs

Stone properties

Project needs

Project needs

Stone properties

Failure!

At the limit!

Success!

Variable

FixedVariable

Fixed

Page 7: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

How do we match a stone to a project?

• Failure mode effect analysis

– What can go wrong?

– What can we test for this?

– How can we manage the risk?

• Is it safe?

• Will it last?

• Is it strong enough?

Page 8: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Specifying by experience

Local Stone

Trial and error Observation

Experience Measurement

Traditional Use Testing

Classification

Portland Stone in London

- observation of balusters on buildings in Whitehall

- failure of stone at the Palace of Westminster

Page 9: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Performance versus Product specification

Example 1:

• Resistant to 10 m/s wind loading

• 70mm thick cladding

• London limestone

Page 10: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Performance versus Product specification

Example 2:

• “Durable” for 50 years

• Weathering rate 2mm per 100 years

• Class B

• London limestone (based on tradition)

Page 11: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Product specification

• BS 8298: 1994 Design and installation of natural stone cladding and lining– Use stone like this and it will be alright

• BS 680: 1971 Specification for roofing slates– Use slates that pass

(Now replaced by BS EN123630

• BS5385 Part 5 :1994 Wall and Floor Tiling: Design and installation of terrazzo tile and slab, natural stone and composition block flooring– Doesn’t matter what you use as long as you do it right

Page 12: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Different types of test (1) • Index tests

– Petrographic description– Porosity, Density and Water Absorption– Saturation Co-efficient

• Strength tests– Compressive– Flexural– Modulus of Rupture– Strength around a fixing– Point load

Page 13: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Different types of test (2) • Durability tests

– Freeze-thaw resistance– Salt resistance– Thermal Shock

• Safety– Slip and skid resistance

• Component tests– Wind loading– Fire– Impact

Page 14: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Deterioration of natural stone

• Erosion and spalling• Large, solid stones• Loss of strength• Thermal and moisture

cycles• Biological growths• Westminster Abbey,

London

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Deterioration of cladding

• Bowing and distortion of marble cladding

• Large, thin panels• Loss of strength• Thermal and moisture

cycles• University Library,

Göttingen, Germany

Page 16: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Deterioration of cladding

• Bowing and distortion of marble cladding

• Large, thin panels• Loss of strength• Thermal and moisture

cycles• Finlandia Hall Helsinki• Amoco Tower

Chicago

Page 17: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Different uses of stone in construction

External Cladding

Page 18: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

External Cladding

Page 19: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

External Cladding

Page 20: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Different uses of stone in construction -

Flooring and Paving

Page 21: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Different uses of stone in construction -

Roofing

Page 22: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Roofing

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Roofing

Page 24: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Roofing

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Roofing

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Roofing - does something always go wrong?

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Vimy Ridge

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Vimy Ridge

Page 29: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Will the stone do what I want it to do?

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Stone in different environments

Page 31: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Is the stone what I wanted?

Page 32: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

A few pointers

• Select the stone with care– Establish what performance requirements of the

project– Recent test results – Assurance that the material is consistent – Extra tests if needed

• Workmanship– A good contractor– Sorting– Laying

• Any questions?

Page 33: STONE IN CITY THE. Dr Tim Yates BRE Ltd There’s no such thing as bad stone – only badly used stone Tim Yates, BRE 12 th March 2008, Stone in the City,

Some conclusions

Performance

Life time

Realism

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Thank you for your attention