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SUBURBA N RICE -1 Relaps e inside . ... RED KROSS, BANG S CRUCIAL TRUTH , DOUBLE 0, COME ORG ., TALKIN G HEADS, BAUHAUS , CRASS, KILLIN G JOKE, MORBI D OPERA, SIOUXSIE , ROACH MOTEL , SADISTIC EXPLOITS REAGUN, FACTS , OPINIONS + MORE

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inside . . . .RED KROSS, BANGSCRUCIAL TRUTH ,DOUBLE 0, COMEORG ., TALKINGHEADS, BAUHAUS ,CRASS, KILLINGJOKE, MORBIDOPERA, SIOUXSIE ,ROACH MOTEL,SADISTIC EXPLOITSREAGUN, FACTS ,OPINIONS + MORE

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ISSUE #7

NOVEMBER 198 2

EDITOR : BARRY SOLTZ AKA BO Z

DESIGN, ART, & LAYOUT EDITOR : BILL PROE

TYPIST : LAURA CHRISTOPHER (who dared to care )

CONTRIBUTORS : ERICK WATKINS, WALTER CZ, H BSTILLANO, DAVE READ, LESLIE WINNER, CRAI GVAGUE, WENDY HOLIDAY, RICHARD, ALLISON RAINE ,FISH, KEVIN STAWIERAY, MARIA DANIELLE, ALLENESSER, TML,MICHAEL SZYMANSKI, DAVE CHEETHAM

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©1982 Suburban Relapse . No material may beused without consent, however consent will begladly given in almost all instances . Justask first .

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Girl in Plumed Hat

by Fish

Mais AmiObsidian eyes and serpentiresse sDon't chide me or provok eWe shall always be friend sDialectic and profoundYour oneness to my multipl eHow strange, almost eerie .

Mais amiOdalesque in statur eCome, and dance by thelak eWe shall always be friendsThough critical and satiricYour strength to my visio nHow wretched, almost ignoble .

Mais am iOpalescent spirit in the nightPerform me a harlequinadeWe shall always be friend sSomewhat depraved and vileYour tacit consent to my connivanc eHow supple, almost limber .

Mais amiOmniscient teller of talesDesign me a comic vignett eWe shall always be friend sEver gracious and harmoni cYour agility to my supine vicissitudeHow unexpected, almost celibate .

FASHION DIVIDES PUN K

What's happened? How soon we forget- or didwe ever know in the frist place? I always thoughtpunk was supposed to be about being an individual ,living outside of straight society's bounds, tryin gto create change, etc . . . Well, you could've fooledme, 'cause I hear people setting rules and stan-dards on our ideas . Like dress for example . . .that' sright- we now must look a certain way In order tobecome accepted . Of course some of the people doin gthe talking are the same people who will go out andspend gobs of money on 'punk' gear . . .bondage trou-sers, studded belts, jackets, etc . . .Whatever hap-pened to the do-it-yourself philosophy of makin gyour own clothes and T-shirts? What about thrif tshops?

Don't you see that we're creating the sam ekind of conformity we originally set out to des -troy? Punk's an attitude . . .why turn it into some-thing plastic and superficial? It doesn't matte rwhat you look like or how you dress . . .punk isabout being an individual . I've seen the slogan sand I've read the rhetoric, so where's the action ?You've got to be prepared to change things withpositive action . Use your head for a change. . .think and then act . This society is fucked upenough, don't become part of the problem . Findfault and then seek a solution . Let's keep punkpure, and let's not lose track of our individualit yand our ideals . Enjoy the music, whatever it is(Black Flag, SPK, Salvation Army, etc . . .rememberwhen I mention 'punk' here I'm not talking abouta specific musical genre, but referring to a broa-der sense of thought) but don't forget about theneed to create and change . There's more to pun kthan going out and slam dancing on a Saturda ynight : Anyway I thought I'd make this point andhopefully a few of you might profit from it . Also ,I don't mean to give the impression that everyon edown here is like this 'cause there're slot o fpeople (even though were probably outnumbered )who are dedicated and know the difference .

Punk is a state of mind- don't be fooled or connedotherwise . . .

"You can be accepted or rejecte din punk or societyYou can play the role, I'll just be mysel fFuck people who think I'm a hippi eor a weekend pun kIf they'd stop to think they'd seePunk is an attitude "

-The Wrecks 198 2"Slogans and badges worn without though tInstant identities so cheaply boughtWell freedom ain't product, it isn't just funIf you're looking for peace your work's just begun "

-Crass 198 2

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Back in August Miami/Ft . Lauderdale got itsfirst taste of some D .C . hardcore when Double, 0came into town . It was a last minute decision bythe band to make the journey south . They Were inNorth Carolina and had the misfortune of having ; abunch of their dates cancelled, so south the ycame . The local turnout was pitiful, but the fewthat did show up weren't disappointed by the band' sperformance . I think I can say that most of th epeople in attendance had a good time .

For those of you unfamiliar with Double 0 ,they've been together for almost a year (I thin kthat's right) . The band consists of Eric(vocals) ,Jason (guitar), Bert ( bass), and Richard (drums) .They don't have anything on vinyl yet, althoughthey can be found on the °Charred Remains" cassett ecompilation . All the band members have been activ ewithin the D .C . scene for awhile- Bert and Richar dwere in the Untouchables, Eric was in Red C an dBert also played bass in the Youth Brigade . Theirroadie Tomas was formerly the drummer for Red C a swell . He begins their sets with a quick warm-up onguitar . . .was that Jimi Hendrix or Robin Trower ?The following interview was conducted on the beac h(where else? This is Florida!)- everyone was pre-sent except Eric .

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about is if there's anarchy . . .you're going to di ein whatever a matter of time . . .someone's just goingto come up and kill you and take all your money .RICHARD: Let ' s get it straight up- what you'retalking about as far as anarchy .SR : What about peaceful anarchy ?THOMAS : Terrorism is not anarchy, anarchy is alifestyle . It's not fucking throwing bombs a ttanks . . . .RICHARD: I hate labels like that .JASON : Labels basically suck- all the straigh tedge labels, anarchy labels .RICHARD: To label is to limit . . .to limit is tolabel . Put that down for Bored Youth . . . .SR : What do you guys do during the day ?RICHARD: Sleep.THOMAS : Masturbate .SR : What about skateboarding ?RICHARD: These two are the big skateboarders ,Eric and Bert. Me and Jason just fuck around . . .JASON : We're the ones who just drive down thehill .

SR : Why do you think most of the D .C . bands onl ystay together for a few months ?JASON : Because there's a lack of places to play . .there's really not alot of places to play . . .bu tusually other bands come out of the bands tha tbreak up .SR: Tell us about the whole "straight edge" thing .RICHARD: Let's get some shit straight aboutstraight edge . It's not a movement . People get thewrong thing about straight edge, it's not a move-ment ; it's the idea of one person (Ian MacKaye) .If some people are straight. edge that's great ,that's fine- if you're not, you're not .JASON : There's no turmoil in Washington lik ethese two groups who hate each other .SR : Is there a D .C . philosophy ?RICHARD : Everybody has feelings- 'What's this al labout, man?' . . .it's all about your own ideas . . .how you feel- its independence.

THOMAS : It's like alot of people don't drink o rtake drugs, but that's their own idea .

JASON : Then there's alot of people thatdo- it' s

not like a turmoil . . .people get along with eac hother .aalllu uuullllu 111111llll, Illnnla 11uunllIuuullu u uu n,uu,u uSR : Where do you get the ideas for your songs ?RICHARD : Most of the ideas for your songs comefrom everyday things .BERT : Your surroundings .JASON : It's reality, it's not like 'I love thegirl, she's the most beautiful in the world' orit's not about beating people up or being rea ltough or anything like that .RICHARD: It's what's going on . . .how you fee labout what you see .THOMAS : It's personal politics .SR: So you're about personal politics- you ar enot an overt political band ?THOMAS : We're all homosexual communists .JASON : Just omit everything he says, too .SR: What about anarchy ?JASON : Anarch 's dumb . All you've got to think

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1!1111111111!lll!l!!IIIIIII!Illllllllllfliif!!!SR : What bands have you played with that you'v ebeen particularly impressed with ?

JASON : Negative Approach .RICHARD : They were hot as shit .THOMAS : Bruce Springsteen .JASON : I wasn't impressed with the Dead Kennedyswhen we played with them . I mean, I thought theysounded like your average basement band . They al ljust stand there like they're dead . . .like they havesticks up their asses .JASON : No, he moves around and all .SR : Are you making any money on this tour ?RICHARD : As a matter of fact, we're in the hole ,but we're having fun .THOMAS : OK, here's my comment . You've got to giveup, you've got to make sacrifices . The problemwith the punks today is that they don't make anysacrifices, they just go along with all this bull-shit, and the only thing that sets them apart I sthe music they listen to. It's not supposed to bethat way, they are supposed to have a totally diff-erent lifestyle .JASON : Wait a minute . . .I don't believe that- lik eI listen to punk rock and I've got to get a mohaw know and a pair of boots- I've got to drink warmbeer and beat up old women- that's a bunch of shit .RICHARD: I'll go along with what Thomas said, butmost important is where your head's at . . .

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVIIIII1VVISR : So are you saying be an individual ?THOMAS : It's doing what you believe in and youdon't have to live up to the role because it's animage . It depends on what your real feelings ar eabout it, and not how you look . Being a punk mean slooking at all the bullshit around you and fightin gagainst it . Wake up and make sacrifices .SR: What kind of sacrifices ?RICHARD : Anything that bothers you . . .anything yo udon't agree with . There's your sacrifice, so goagainst it .THOMAS : Punk is supposed to be a lifestyle, it' sjust that people lose track of it .SR: (Heavy sarcasm) Hey, one more question- So, i sIan MacKaye the leader of the D .C . scene ?JASON : Oh yeah, he's our god, we worship him .Every Tuesday night we go to his house, everybodyin the D.C . scene and some people from many othe rcities like L.A ., and there's a big shrine tha tlooks just like Ian 350 feet tall, and we all wor-ship him.RICHARD : Hey, that's one thing . . .hey . . .Ian MacKay eis probably one of the most outspoken people i nthe D .C . scene . That's why he gets all t hrecognition, which is fucking great . He's gthing to say and he says it- he's not afraid to sa yit . . .but he's probably one of the friendliest peo-ple in D.C .

111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 1BERT: See, all along their tour they encountere dpeople that thought Ian would go up there and cal lthem assholes because they're drinking, and not t odrink . . .but it's not true .SR : So he's not trying to impose a punk "mora lmajority" thing ?BERT: Not at all .RICHARD : People get the wrong idea . The attitud ethey have with the straight edge, it's . . .who th efuck are you? They shouldn't do that snit . Look a tthat song "In My Eyes", people get the wrong ide aabout that . If you read the lyrics, and read care -fully, you can really see what he's trying to say ,man . t's almost like you can stick an 'if' i nthere . . .it's like "if I don't smoke, if I don' tdrink" .

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Shortly after this, we concluded the inter -view . It's really too bad more people didn't sho wup, but in the end it's your fuckin' loss- thes eguys were hot !

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111111111111111111111111111111 1E : Who writes the songs ?Je : Ummm, we all do, I write most, of them .5 : We all write lots of riffs, but we all put i ttogether, do our own things, you know- He writesall the words though .

Uggh .E: Where do you get your lyrics from :Je : From TV Guide- no, we steal them from othe rbands .F: Which bands ?Je : China White (laughter), T .S .O .L ., i,ircle One ,Suicidal Tendencies . . .Ja : Wasted Youth writes all our lyrics for us .Je : Jack from T .S .O .L. is a lyrical genius .

Yah ?Je : He writes all of our lyrics .T : Simon & Garfunkel, Arlie Murray . . .Je : Anne Murray was oil Saturday Ni ght Live .

Uhgh yah! (lau ghs )F : What are vour musical root 'Je : Tammy have .

What are your Influences ?S: Wilma RurgeSS ;Je : Ugh huh yah !(2 min- pause )

Je : Hey, sweet young thing . (directed towar dTracy )5 : What bands do you listen to ?Je : Rick Jmaes .5 : What are your favorite songs ?Je : Wait, wait, wait, wait- how's it go ?T: Jimmy Furcy .S : "She was getting kinky in the ghetto and sh elaid her pigtails down on me . "Je : "I came comin' home & talk to (Jamie? )E; Is this live?S: Oh, that's our favorite song . "I'm so craz ycomin' home & talk to (Jamie? )Je : 1 swear Rick James is our idol .Ja : Shut up, you guys .E : I just got so much tape .Je : Oh, okay .T: Superfreak!

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Ja : Woh,00h, woh, oh :E : Who are your favorite personalities, lik emovie stars ?Je : Oh god, Susan Dey .T : Pia Zadora .Ja : Malcolm McDowell .S: I like Brett Summers .

Je : And the Mentors .T: Mentors rule .Ja : (Duche) is the sex symbol of the eighties .T : Oh (Duche) is love, turns me on .S: Love muscle ?Je : You know those 2 chicks posing on the front o fthe Mentors' album ?E : Yah, yah :Je : We have them right here- no (laughs), youmight get your asses kicked, you're taking theircredit, shit .E : What bands do you listen to ?T: Circle One, Red Scare .Je : My favorite bands : Mentors, Naughty Women ,N .Y . Dolls, Stones,Black Flag, & Sin 34 are good .Ja : The Mau Maus ,E : Who are your favorite L .A . bands ?Je : The Mentors, the Omelegtes .Ja : Meat Puppets . . .E : Do you plan to travel ?Je : No :- ha huh, ha huh .Ja : If we have money, if someone sends us lots o fmoney, to go anywhere, if someone gives us a cre-dit card, we'll try to go .E : Ooh, what kind ?Ja : Gas card, Credit card .E : What about American Express ?Ja : Well, we're worried about food, we don't haveany money, it costs lots ofmoney to go to thes eplaces .Je : I don't know if we might make it, we migh tmake it to Florida, yah, Florida maybe in December .E : Yah, there's places in Hallandale, N . Miami ,and Miami where you can play .Je : Well, tell them to write us, we don't answe rour fanmail though- not because we're stuck u prock stars, but because we're too lazy, I can' twrite .Ja : Jeff is a 9th grade dropout .E : Are you happy with your album ?Je : Oh, I'm really happy with it, the 2nd albu mwill be a lot different, but our first album i sjust spontaneous . The L .A . Times just loved tha talbum. The Herald did, too .E : Are you happy in the band ?Je : Oh yes, we argue and fight and are constantl ybickering and bitching at each other, but it work sreally well, we're all friends- that's why we'restill together .Ja : I don't know, it's like lots of bands fee lit's a job or something- it's real stupid, youknow, you can tell they don't know how to hav efun .

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3Je : Like purely for the social—element, I think .Ja : A lot of bands that form just wanna see i fthey can get big .Je : L .A. has a lot of shit bands, and they havea lot of great bands, too . I'm sure any city ha sgood and shitty ones .E : What do you do when not performing ?Je : Watch T .V., smoke pot- Steve goes to school .E : Yah, what do you think about pot ?Je : Oh, I love it ; I've been smoking pot everysingle day for 3 years, and like with only missin gmaybe 4 days .T : I like shoot (something) .E : Can you elaborate ?T : Well, shooting (something) gives you thi sdeath-defying feeling, it's euphoric, I mean yo ucan orgasm .E : Really, did you today ?Je : I'm not allowed to use the vibrator .T : Well, only 2 or 3 times a day- I'm gonna goget some water .Je : Get some for me, too .E : Me 3 .Je : And I don't eat health food either, I've beeneating at Jack-in-the-Box for the past 4 years . Mymom doesn't cook any more since she works, so m eand Steve eat at Taco Bell, and pizza .E : Bet you're almost dead now, huh ?Je : No, we're very healthy ,E : How about the mushro0Uis I saw you smokin' o nstage ?Je : That was Angel Dust, 00 Sherms, they dip itin Sherman cigarettes, they

them Sherms- dothey have Angel Dust in Florida ?E : I think so .Je : It's fun to play on Angel Dust, I've onlysmoked, like twice .Ja : It lowers your I .i ..like by about 50% .Je : Oh ; my I .Q.'s so high, my I .Q .'s like 500 .E : Is it really? Is that maximum ?Je : Wouldn't you be dead if It were 500, like 160is genius, you'd be bored shitless .E : What do you think about your fans ?Je : Oh, they're great . See, we're one of thosebands, like the lucky ones that have a very diff-erent, we have a totally split audience- we hav e

like your average older people, we have pun krockers, just regular people, we're not in a ru tlike, only punkers like us, our audience is no thuge . . .Ja : A real big cross-section .E : Would you rather have people slam or watch ?Ja : People slam or people watch, it like depend son the show. Depends on who you're playing with .If you're playing with Black Flag they slam, I fyou're playing with middle class, they stand ther eand pick their noses .Je : It's cool as long as people are into it, itdoesn't matter if they're dancing or just sittin gthere, but when they're like, just not paying at -

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12111111111111111111111111111111 1tention, and like, oh god, when are you gonna end ,that's when it's bummed, but that hasn't happened

in like 6 months . (laughter )Ja: There's always, like, some show like that ,there's always part of an audience that do that,as long as like a few people are getting into it ,supporting us, like you can drive everyone els ecrazy, but if a few people really appreciate it ,it's worth it .E : Who's your favorite drummer ?Ja : Charlie Watts, Jerry Nolan, and Don Bolle sis a really great drummer, too . . .E : What about your favorite guitar player ?

Je : Oh, that's easy- Johnny thunders, KeithRichards, Greg Kihn, Lou Reed, well, early LouReed, they're probably the best .E : What are you doing after the show?Je : Since this is the Whiskey's last night, the ymight just let us hang out and drink .Ja : Ever bod who works here sucks .

Is that for the record ?Ja : That is for the record, well . . . not everybody .Je : All night clubs suck, I mean I'd advise anyband that is planning to tour in L .A ., you betterhave your shit together, because the club owner swill rip you off, they're so used to rippin gpeople off that they rip people off more than the ypay them.E : Like the Cathay deGrande incident .Je : Cathay deGrande, like for instance they'l lpay another band that has really fancy smanc ymanagement, but they haven't been together as lon gas us, and they're not as big a draw .Je : And they got paid 700 bucks and they'll payus like 50 to 100 dollars, even if it's packed ,and make up an excuse- the guy's fried, gnat guy' sbrains are fucked up, like here they pay you i fyou're headlining, otherwise, you get paid 10 0dollars, I think out of town is alot better thanit is it L .A . .i .uuiuuie®u .u. .0uui®ui .iu..I . li I

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1E : Who writes the songs ?S : Vicki Peterson and I, Susana Hoffs, write most 0of the songs, and we write words and music andDebbie wrote 1 song that's gonna come out on the

/EP that we worked together on .E : Hmmm.Where do you get the ideas for yourlyrics ?BANGS : Anything .D: It's like whatever somebody feels at the time, lagor some personal experience, or you know, aboutsomebody they know personally, or something that

phappened.

/E: Which are your favorite songs- of yours, an din the world?D : Well of our songs, I think, `The Heal World" .S : You like that one ?D: Yeah, and "I'm in Line" .S : Yeah, it's a soul song more than anything else .E: How many members in the band, four, right ?4 BY ERICK WATKINSS : There's four, yeah, Debbie Peterson play sdrums, and I play rhythm guitar, Vicki Peterso nplays lead, and Annette Zilinekas plays bass ; andDebbie, Vicki, and I all sing .E : How long have you been playing as a group?

~..S : About a year and a half .E : Where do your musical roots come from- wha tbands influenced you ?D : Well, actually, our roots are a lot of 60' smale groups, really, like the Beatles, Yardbirds ,the Kinks . . . .S : The Byrds .D: The Stones .E: I love the Stones .S : A lot of people call us a girl group, you know,;but we aren't so much influenced by the classic

\girl groups of the 60's, we're more influenced b ythe male rock bands .E : What bands do you listen to ?

Well, I listen to alot of 60's stuff, you kno wThe Bangs are : Debbie Peterson, Vicki Feter- son Susana Hoffs, and Annettel.ilinskas . This in- but I also like a lot of the bands around now, like.)

terview was taken at the Whiskey, the last night \ dicate, o you knownIwrna med 3 o'clock), Dream Syn- 'lly l alot .before they closed . They closed because the big oi =bands, Chron Gen and Vice Squad came, and some

a ED : Alot of local bands .

_alleged skinhead began belly-flopping on the hoods : Who's your favorite ?

, and 3 o'clock, and Redof the cop cars . Riots broke out, squad cars . . .so Kross (laughter, for Red Kross were in the room) .S : The Dream Syndicate

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of the Dolls" (laughs) .E : Who are your favorite movie stars like per- /, sonalities and stuff?S : Dennis Hopper (someone yells "yah :") and Davi dHemming, we like all those mod guys from the 60's, 1you know .E : The Who ?S : Oh yeah, we like old Who, I love old Who .D: I love old Who, love old Stones .S : Before Ron Wood (laughter) .E: Yeah, yeah I hate that guy (laughs) .

jS : Mick Taylor I like, Mick Taylor was cool .E : I didn't even like him that much, though Brian .000iJones I loved .S : Yeah, Brian Jones was cool .D: Yes, he was definitely cool .S : So . . .we dust recorded a 5 song EF .E: Do you like it ?D: Yeah, it turned out really well, it sounds slotlike us live .S : Yeah, as opposed to sort of a real slick pop /sound, we wanted a real live sound, dig drums .E: No synthesizers used .D: No, none at all .S : We had some pianos, we

1got like a harpsichordsound on one of the pianos .E: Have you done a lot of interviews ?D : Recently we've done a lot .S : N .Y . Rocker, Bam, Trouser Press, slot of stuff.D : Yeah, it's really been great .\\~/ ILA\~~IL\\\\///L

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he Bar photo . D' Well . . .(laughs )S : We're getting them like designed now, we take

S• Nothing much- I like being a girl .old clothes and get them designed, yeah, cause we

D It's cool, you know, it's fun to be a girl, and̀V4 wanted to like have a look .

to be up there playin g away, just cause it's diff-D: We want to have a look that's not vintage 60's,=1 erent, and it's also saying to alot of Chauvinis tbut it's like taking a bit from that and moderni-

people around . . . saying, "Hey, look- we can do it /too", it's not like we're all feminists or anythinp~'cause we're not .S : And it's not like we just started playing our -

BANGS : YES!

E : What's your goal as a female ?E: Did you see it, wasn't that good?

rBANGS : To be happy .

/D: That was great .

\ D . To be rich . (laughs )S : Yeah, we love, I love all the old Andy Warhol

S : To be successful, hopefully .

,movies, not the ones he produced, but the ones he

E What do you all intend to do with the bandactually directed, like "Chelsea Girls" .

like where are you gonna go from here ?E : That was s00000 good .

D : We'd like to get our songs on AM radio, get A MS : Isn't that great, with the 2 screens happeningpike

to what it used to be in the 60's, and justand Nico and everything?

= really revolutionize the radio, so that when youS : Love the Velvet Underground .

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)stead of hearing slow-ballad-bongs .- rS : Love the Velvet Underground, I love the Lovin' S : Yeah, 'cause everybody listens to the radio ,Spoonful .

people at work at their boring jobs and they have F.D: Oh, yes .

Oto listen to boring music at their boring jobs ,S : A lot of those N .Y . groups, the Blues Magoos,

that's terrible .you know, also I really like the Ramones, earl yBlondie, and Richard Hell and the Voidoids, and

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J \\̀S : We're hoping to hit the East coast, do like alittle mini-tour with the EP, depending on how it

,,goes, we're gonna be on 3 TV shows, 2 London shows r '00dthat are gonna be viewed all across England,

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as /great .

HE: Yeah, he said they slammed the shit out of tha tplace, it was wliilldd!S : Yeah, we played with the Descendents andChannel 3, it was fun . And of course we really like%i

SUE AND DEBBIE.Rodney, he's helped us slot, and we're gonna comeout on Rodney on the Rock (KROq) volume 3 witha like instrumental song, a cross between surf

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music and "Eight Miles High " kind of. . .(laughter )E: What do your parents think of the band, d o theylike it ?BANGS : All our parents love it, they come to slo tof our shows .

/i `\\D: It's amazing, they support us, you know ^eallyi' E : How do you feel when you're out there on stage ?S : They're really behind it, mine makes movies,

I S : GREAT we all feel much better than we do nor-she's an independent filmmaker, and she put us in

Ilmally .her new movie, which is called the "Haircut" which JJ D : It's incredible .is cool 'cause we have bangs (laughs), and youknow, and um . . . John Casavetti Italians are the -V S : The best feeling .best), he's starring in the movie, it's gonna be , D : Knowing that you're making people, like people:cool when that comes out .

are out there watching you and they're having fun,.E: What do you dislike most about being a female? N.

you know, just making people have a good time ,(laughter)

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S : Yeah, kinds Warholesque, kinda op-art look inclothing, like real geometric, like with shapes and instruments, because we've all been playing for athings like that .

~~ really long time, I know I've been playing since/ E : I love Warhol .

I was a kid. And Debbie's been playing one thin gS : Yeah, me too.

J or another since she was a kid ; she's been playin gE : Did you see "Ciao, Manhattan" yet?

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A : We asked ourselves that . When we first want-ed to go to Florida, there were no clubs tha t

■ . ■ wanted us . Then we weren't big enough to playbigger places .0 : Tell me about your new material . ii■ ■ ■ A : We are doing a little bit of new material on

1■ ■ ■ the tour . It still has a lot of rhythm, but les s■ ■ ■ instrumentation . We are down from a nine-piec e

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■ ■ ■ punk Woodstock in Canada, Aug . 1980) and at th eshow in Central Park . "We'll see how that goes, "■ ■ ■we said . Then we were pleased with it .

■ ■ ■ Q : And the next album will continue in that vein .A : More or less . The album is maybe two-third s

■ i ■ recorded . We ' ve been working on it pn and off .We recorded before our Japanese tour . We have t o■ ■ ■add some vocals and added touches and do mixing .

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and TK records in the e . .rly '70s .0 : How was the live album ("The lame of Thi sBand Is Talking Heads") put to gether ?A : We decided pretty much to do that on efrom the beginning, a mish mash of early an dlater songs .0 : What happened to "1 2 3 Red Light?" (Th eoriginal, three-piece band used to performthe 1910 Fruitgum Co . hubblegum classic i nlive shows, and it has turned up on bootlegs . )A : We couldn't find a good tape of it . Al lwe had was a cassette .Q : You used to play on the same bill as Blondi eat CBGB . Do you follow what they are doing ?A : Yes . At the time (1976-77) people saw mor esimilarities between the groups than there real -ly were . Blondie wanted to be a hip pot) grou pmaking AM records . They got what they wanted .Q : Does it bother you that Talking Heads wer eclassified as "punk" or "new wave" - and stil lare, by some people ?A : I hope we are getting out of that . We neve rfelt we were in those categories . It took som etime for people to see us beyond the categories .0 : After your work with the B-52s, do you haveplans to do more outside production ?A : It is now tied up in the business end, bu tI will proha'r;ly produce a British group that i snot well known over here . There is no contrac tyet .0 : So you won ' t name them ?A : Not yet .

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Q : How's the club scene in NY ?A : The club scene isn't really that good . ThePeppermint closed down to hardcore sort of, CB' sclosed to hardcore, Irving Plaza closed down tohardcore . Same old story- the kids don't drink s othey don't make enough money . Umm- the new A7 isalright- it's called 2+2 and I don't know . . .youjust can't get a good place in Manhattan, prett ymuch .

!Q : What about the name change again ?A : I don't know my sister said it was too hard,to say . I really don't know what it is right now .. .Crucial Truth or Crucial T? We put it on therecord as Crucial T . We might change it again thenext time we do a record .

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Q : What about your relationship with the Ba dBrains ?A : Ohhh no! Well . . . I don't really have any re-lationship with the Bad Brains . I like a couple o fthem I get along with and a couple I don't ge talong with, but they seem to be getting a ba d;reputation in California and Texas especially . I

pdon't know- to me they seem to be luring people t o` their shows by using the punk and hardcore thing ,h and then you get there and they lay the Jah tri p

on you. It's kind of bullshit . . .they're using thescene in a way which I really don't like at all .Q: Are you guys going to have anything on thei rcompilation ?A : We were originally- I decided not to .

Q : Why did you cahnge your mind ?A : Yeah, I just think it's like a big contra-diction, what they're doing and about what the ybelieve in . I think it's a total- joke .Q : Do you think they're hypocrites . . .the differ-ence between what they preach and what they prac -tice ?A : Well I wouldn't want to call them hypocrites .You would have to ask them about that .Q : Who writes most of the songs for the band ?

IA : I've been writing them . . . most of them . Skippypretty much . . . still handles all of the music jus tabout but I've been writing alot of songs on gui-tar now.

Q : In general, what would you say your songs ar eabout?

ilA : The songs are dealing alot more with myself . . .. .alot of the songs, instead of any kind of poli-

tical thing.

Q : What about "Fascism's Fun " ?A : It's like this sarcastic commentary about ho wmuch fun the bi

igs have in the world .* Q : Basically punk deals with rebellion in alot o frespects, do you feel that you have that need t orebel ?A : Yeah, I've always been that way since I was a

You guys seem to have a change in attitude . . .or at least that's my impression from, let's say ,- back in the days of the Balkan . . . from a not-give -a-fuck attitude to now, you seem more serious- IImean Skip's got his briefcase inside and . . . .A : Yeah! It got to the point where down here i tdidn't matter, cause we could just work our job sand do that bullshit trip at night . You remembe rlast summer our attitude changed a bit . . .we sawthe D.C . bands and the Bad Brains . . .and then whe nI went to New York my attitude changed alot more .iI stopped drinking alomost . . .almost . . .stopped smo-king and cleaned out alot . . .just started livinga different life. The reason for the organization -it just stopped being funny after awhile and itstarted to aggravate me and in New York you haveto be organized no matter what you're doing. We'vegotten alot better, also which kind of inspire d

are much slower than what we've been used to . I sthat a new direction for the band ?'A : Yeah! I like heavy metal, I always have . I got 0,kid . Some of the things I did when I was a kid were sick of hardcore as far as . . .like you stand outsidetotally obnoxious . Yeah . . .my parents were real

,of A7 and the door would open and you couldn' tstrict Scottish people . When I was growing up smo-

tell which band it was . . .it just got so fuckin gking pot and doing mushrooms . . .and when I was

monotonous . There's only like 3 or 4 hardcoregrowing my hair they didn't like that, and now

bands I relly like . It wasn't an intentionalwhen I cut my hair they didn't like that either .

change- it was just like something I changed whe nYeah I guess I've always been rebellingit

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always loved Hendrix and that sort of stuff- it' sparents . I still feel the same fire as when I first a new formula in a way . We kind of got when westarted getting turned on by the earle music . . the sii started writing songs we saw thatinside of us . . .early unk stuff .

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J sbus to try to market ourselves . . .if anyone woul dwant to listen to us, you know. That's why it took ~yus so long to put out a record, 'cause we just

'areally weren't into our songs that much really .0Q : The record's kind of a change, two of the songs

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dance and smash their brains out to it', I jus tsaid that now when I write a song, I write a songexactly the way it comes to me and the way I feelrather than writing to an audience, so to speak ,and I think we're getting better that way .

, Q : So what punk bands do you like that you'v e'come across recently ?'A : I like Void . . .Minor Threat's good and Blac kFlag and the Damned and Discharge and there's no ttoo many bands I listen to now . There's not to omuch in New York I really like . The scene there i sreally kind of weird . I noticed when I got bac khere, there's alot more comraderie between people ,'believe it or not . New York is so paranoid . . .youdon't find a lot of parties in New York, or likelast night the gig was alot of' fun . . .New York it' s

,like everyone's got an attitude. . .everyone wantsto know what you want from them . But I've got todefend the scene up there, too . . .some people arereally into the music .Q : So what happened at the Elk Center in Philly ?A : (Laughs) Well, it was July 4 and we went on a tmidnight . Jet brought out this flag that was 1 0feet long and I lit it on fire and Cramp had afire extinguisher that he had pulled off the wal lthat was squirting water and he was squirting wa-ter all over everybody . Skippy was throwing con -

Aifetti and playing the "Star Spangled Banner" and Iwas punching my hand through this wall . All ofthis happened before the first song, so like th epromoter came out and started flipping out . Ther ewas alot of tension in the place and I though tthere was going to be a riot and it was just acrazy night . That place closed down . The wee kafter that we closed this place down in Bridgeport ,Connecticut- this redneck biker bar, semi-pun kscene . That was another wild night and we almos t

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closed another club the next week, too . . .we wereon a hot streak .Q : Do you think the owners or promoters are ner-vous or is there another problem?A : I can't blame them in alot of ways . . .we reall ydidn't do that much damage, but it's kind of a ha rthing for me, because if I feel like doing some-thing, I do it . . .The clubs can't take the tensio nbecause people get scared . Most of these owner sand managers don't know what it's all about, the yjust want to know where the money is and whe npeople start flying all over the bars and every -thing and burning flags, they kind of get a littl euptight . Basically, people don't want to let go andhave fun.Q : So what do you think of American punk versu sBritish punk?

A : Almost everything that comes out of Englandsucks, like 2 or 3 bands . . .Q : Alot of people here worship the British bands .

. .oi and that type of thing especially .A : I hate of music: Let's make that clear rightnow . When we were down here before . . .I think I wa smisquoted in the Borington or something saying Ilike of bands, and I can't stand that kind o fmusic .Q : ghat about the record, are you happy with it ?A : Yeah, I'm very happy with the record- we_spen ta lot of time on it . I just wish we could do an L P

we've got a load of new songs . We just haven't ha dthe time, changing musicians and all . . .

Q : Anything you want to add . . . any encouragement ,advice . . .A : Tell everyone to practice their golf shots ,polish their cars, and if they're in New York ,don't look me up .

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LARRYJOE MILLER BAND AT THE METRO CORRECTIONAL

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My first time behind bars (barbed wire andtall fences, to be exact)- I didn't know what toexpect, exactly . It was quite different from th emovies . . .tennis courts, a lake, weight room, poo ltables, snack bar . . .this place must have bee nbuilt right after Watergate . Things appeared to becalm . . .prisoners walking about, a few jogging, afew carried tennis rackets, but most sat about .Appearances are deceiving of course, and it wa sdifficult to examine things further, as we werenot permitted to walk around . This was a minimumsecurity prison (I think that's what they cal lthem)-the emphasis is supposed to be on rehabili-tation-at least that's what we were told .

Anyway, the reason we were here was for Larr yJoe- I went as a roadie (no photos permitted -sorry) . Anyway, Larry Joe and the boys kicked ass ,despite the overwhelming heat . I don't know whethe reveryone's seen his new line-up or not (Jame sRowe- electric gtr ., Bobby Tak-snare drum, an d"Mad Dog " Smith-bass fiddle) but if you haven't ,you should make a point of doing so . Now I knowwhy they didn't open up for the Stray Cats at th eAgora (gag, choke, vomit!) . They would have blownthose silly boys straight off the fuckin' stage .Larry Joe's not a revival band- this is pure rock-abilly, which in case you didn't know, is a pur eAmerican music form- just like the blues (MusicHistory Lesson #28) . Most of the songs were unfa-miliar to the prisoners, but everyone seemed t oenjoy themselves . A few even came up afterward soffering thanks . The soundman was pretty cool . Heused to work for the Allman Brothers- I believehe's been in "the system" for 5 years now . Anyway ,it was an interesting day, but it sure was a pies -sure to walk away from that place after the con -cert .

(BOZ )

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TRENDIESYBOR CITY, 7/30, 3 1

I attended this gig as a bored school-girl- -expecting the worst from the least . Things havenot been terribly exciting here lately . Fortu-nately, such boredom is 9supposedly0 a requirementbefore an enlightenment occurs ; this night it wastrue .

First on, Wampum Org . Their appearance of highschool normality was charming and well-received--

a welcome relief from the procession of trendypretty-boys and pseudo tough-guys of late, Thes efour reminded me of the 'good boys' in grad e

school : the ones who sat in the front row o fclass, were appointed board monitor and were bea t

up at recess .Aside from an anemic stage-presence, the

overly-long set is my only complaint with W .O . I f

their diversity saves them from monotony, it is toa fault ; Wampum Org has no identifiable sound . Onemust remember that they are young and I'm certai nwill develop as to display their varied talents t o

their best .Next up, The U-Boats . These were the 'bad

boys " in school who used to beat up guys like Wam-

pum Org .U-Boats have been around for years, but have

never stayed together for long periods . This new

line-up, however, looks promising- with Hitler ,

drums, Jay, guitar, Bob, bass, Mike, vocals, sex ;

all quite young .Although I am unimpressed with most hardcore

bands I have seen, this was not the case here ,This band had triple the stage-presence that W .O .

should've had, but then, that's like comparin g

turnips and eggs, right Bob?Hitler's stamina on drums, Jay's agile guita r

work, bassist Bob's near-explosion, outrun only b yvocalist Mike, fused together to create th e

tightest gig I've ever seen by the U.B.'s, andthey were still very raw .

Opening with "Substitute " - an obscure Victims

tune- they were like live electrical wires ,twitching and flashing about, drawing power from

each other while giving it . Though I have yet t ohear the original version, I doubt it could've

been better than this was .However, the U.B.'s rely on too many covers -

especially U .K . Subs . One of those featured wa sthe unforgettable "Warhead"- very well-done . Ano-ther highlight- the Green Acres theme song .

Their own work is strong and well written .New bassist Bob shows potential with "Land of th eFree", as do the other members ; they all write .They are also versatile and change instruments o n

a few songs .

This is one of those groups who have to beseen . You will be able to hear them though, as th eU-Boats' single is to be released this week o nCrow Label with originals "Government Rip-Off" and"Breakout Tonight " . You owe it to yourself to givethem a chance--even if you don't like hardcore ;they're one of the few groups who haven't sold ou ton us .Conclusion : A wonderfully un-trendy ni ght at

Trendies .

DOUBLE 0 FROM DC IN SOUTH FLORIDA AT FINDER S

8/19/82

Walking into South Florida's finest clu b(which doesn't say much for South Florida or th eclub) . I was pretty surprised to see such a smal lcrowd, but later on found out the promoters fo rDouble 0's first appearance at Finders Lounge onl yhad two days to pass out flyers and advertise b yword of mouth . It wasn't bad, though, everybod yknew everybody else, and everybody else was drin-king .

Anyway, thinking they were quite cool, "Mens-trual Cycles" opened up for Double O (with thei rparents' permission, of course) with the shittiest ,poorest excuse for whatever kind of music (shit )you call it, I've ever been forced to sit, through .I moan, I even out my hand over my beer. Actually ,

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25I shouldn't complain, with each song lasting a bi g:58 seconds, their set was over in no time .

Expecting to hate Double 0, the band gatheredto the stage, tuned up a bit, and blasted a tun ecalled "The End" . The song sounded great, but theyhad to ruin it by dedicating it to the Abusers ,which was an open invitation for the fucking ham sthemselves to throw their bodies on the stage . Itlooked like an episode of "CHiPs" about some pun kterrorists or something . I mean diving off th estage into a mammoth crowd of sixteen? C'mon al -ready!

Well, besides the Abusers' annoying behavior ,that they obviously thought was cool, the sho wprogressed into a pretty interesting danceteria .

As bodies slammed, collided, and bruised eachother, Double 0 didn't quit for a second . Everysong had a unique style that kept everybody ontheir feet, and whoever else's they felt like .

Double 0 consists of four members . Eric onvocals (and good ones at that), Bert on a beat- ybass, Rich on drumsthat'll make your hair shak e(if you had any), and Jason on guitar that sounde dlike two people playing . I ask you, is this somebasis for a great band? Exactly .

With hard, rhythmatic, original tunes like"Fade Out " , "death of a Friend", and my favorit e"D .C . On The Map" . I knew bands like this werehard to come by in this town . Small crowd or nocrowd, I wouldn't miss Double 0 for free liquor .

With 13 songs to their credit that evening ,and half of them with undecipherable lyrics ,Double 0 politically and dramatically culture dtheir audience .

BY Michael Szymanski

KILLING JOKE AT THE CHANNEL, BOSTON AUG . 19,1982I always found most of Killing Joke's records t obe somewhat irritating, repetitious, and heavymetal sounding . They were all of these thingslive . Lead singer 'Jaz' wore black camouflagepaint on his face and arms- he looked scary as hellbut only for a few minutes, because after watchinghim move around on stage, he looked just like alost circus clown. The band did have a very power-ful sound, the overbearing, pounding drums I like duntil they became repetitious through every song .My conclusion of Killing Joke live : very loud, bo-ring heavy metal . (A7.i .RN ESSER )

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he's quite good and adds slot to the band . CrucialTruth are back in town for the next few months an dLeo's back on drums . Oh yeah . . .Gary got some newtatoos . He's got quite an art collection now .Latest rumor is that Mont really hates KillingJoke- he just says he likes them 'cause they'remore revolting than Adam Ant . Hey, Mont beforeyou do another cartoon in retaliation- I'm onl ykidding! Seriously, Mont's an OK guy, and he putsout a zine with another OK guy, James . The name of

?the zine is F.L .A . Decay . Send a buck or so tothem at 2925 Poinsettia St ., Ft . Lauderdale, Fl . ,33316 . CHEERS !

Morbid Opera are my favorite new band dow nhere . They are : Lisa, vocals ; Libby, bass ; Nelson ,guitar ; and Chewy, drums . They haven't quite fi-gured out how to play their instruments yet, bu tthat never stopped anyone before . A real "punk "band, and I'm not talking about HC, thrash, or oi .

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They're fast, psychedelic, slow, trashy, noisy ,and funny as hell so don't miss them . The bes tthing in Florida since Teddi and the Fratgirls!Th eAbusers have broken up and supposedly Matt an dAndy are forming a glitter band, to be calle dSaint or something like that . Oh well . . .the Men-strual Cycles are talking to NO FUTURE Record sabout some vinyl . Let's wish them luck . Speakingof English record deals, the Screaming Sneakers ,(now called PSI Force) have a set up to do a coupl eof singles with Polygram UK . Congratulations! Anew Larry Joe Miller single should be coming ou ton Open one of these days, also . . .finally saw RadioBerlin at the disco awhile back . While I reallydon't care for their brand of music, their stag eset-up was awesome . It was all black (my fav ecolor) and they stood on these weird platform sthat had these bright lights in them- I think the ywere chicken egg incubators or something . . .speak-ing of eggs, we have no new Charlie Pickett newsthis issue . Sorry . Also no new Eat news, exceptthat Mrs . O'Brien had a baby boy and I got sic kon my cigar . Thanks Eddie! . . .Isaac Baruch's newband is the U .S . Furys . How 'bout a Reactions re -union, Isaac? Coolest club in town is still Fin-der's . . .27 Birds is OK, but a bit conservative (n oHC) . The New Wave Lounge still has the best booze .Thanks George! The Essentials have a new bassis t(again) . His name is Henry, and from what I saw,

ANARCHY IN THE SECOND CIT YCHICAGO HARDCORE BY DAVE READ

Well, here's my report from the 20th-centur ycenter of subterranean culture . Chicago- some ma ycall it the Windy City . Some may call it the citythat blows .

The first thing I should discuss is the pun kbars, there aren't any . Last year the infamous Oz ,scene of Autumn records' " Busted at Oz" live 12" ,closed down . A few months later, O'Banions, for-merly located on the lovely and scenic 800 blockof North Clark Street, closed down, leavin gChicago without a punk venue .

But all is not lost though . Through the hel pof our great local promoter Eric Nihilist, Thurs-day nights at Club C .O .D . has been established a shardcore night . Once again punk bands have a plac ewhere they can get booked regularly . The CubbyBear Lounge, a small pub on Chicago's North sid ealso books punk bands occasionally . There areplenty of lighted discos all over Chicago that ar ejust like a certain club with an unmentionablename in Lauderdale, but I won't get into them here .

Now I guess I'll talk about the bands- firs tand foremost are the EFFIGIES, who should be ap-pearing somewhere in South Florida by the time youread this . They look like the typical hardcores-ya know, boots braces, and boneheads . Their soundthough, is unique, somewhat slower and more so-phisticated than most Clifornia punk bands . The yare a band that must be seen live to be appre-ciated . Their shows are no-holds-barred tota lthrash bashes . In Chicago their gigs are as vio-lent as anything that happens in El Lay . On arecent tour of the West Coast they backed up thelikes of the Dead Kennedys, the Circle Jerks, andDOA . In their home town, they have opened for th eU .K . Subs, X, Anti-Pasti, and the Rockats amongothers!!!??? They are favorites of both Keit hMoriss and Jello Biafra . Eral, the guitarist, maybe the best axeman of any punk band in the country .Philo Cramer included . And the vocalist has thestage presence of a lobotomized Joe Strummer .

Check them out on the previously-mentione d"Busted at Oz" (Autumn Records, 2427 N . Jansen,

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27Chicago, Ill . 60614), their over-produced bu tstill powerful "Haunted Town" EP previously re -leased on Autumn but now distributed by their ownRuthless label (Ruthless Records, 319 S . JeffersonChicago, Ill., 60606) and their brilliant new 7 "

"Bodybag/Security ' , also on the Ruthless label .Another one of my favorite Chicago bands i s

the relatively new group ARTICLES OF FAITH . Theyare an unpretentious 4-piece slam band that playsfast and tight . Their drummer is the best on th eChicago scene . They have gone over well openin gfor Fear and Black Flag . No wax from these guys ,but I'm hoping .

One of Chicago's favorite local groups is theskinhead trio TRIAL BY FIRE . They are the secondincarnation of STRIKE UNDER (see "Busted at Oz") .Three members of STRIKE UNDER got rid of thei rlead singer to form this much tighter three-piece .They play extra-simple three minute masterpiece swith a distinct CRASS influence . No word on anyrecords from these boneheads .

Also, still making noise on the Chicago sceneare the SUBVERTS . Sure, their performance o n"Busted at Oz" kinda sucks (they also have a 7" EPavailable), but they have gotten a hell of a lotbetter since . I saw them do a great set at O'Ban ..ions last year, despite the fact that only about adozen people came to see them . Definitely worthchecking out.

Another interesting band worth mentioning i sDV8 . I cought them two years ago when they were aNew W_ E band trying to sound like the Buzzocks .Now they have dropped the pop and hopped on th ehardcore bandwagon . I have only seen them onc esince their metamorphosis . And I have to admit tha tI was quite impressed .

Last but least is SIX FEET UNDER . They hav ebeen playing the dives for several years now . Un-fortunately, they are just about Chicago's onl ypolitically-oriented punk band . Memebers of thi sfour-piece can be identified by a stupid facia lexpression and an equally stupid political sloganon the back of a leather or denim jacket . Thei rguitarist was one of the mongoloid boneheads o nthe Phil Donahue show a few months ago . They wastesome wax on the B .A .O . Live LP and are threatenin gto release a 12" EP . A must buy for anyone who i sinto skeet shooting .

Oh yeah, I should mention that recently ther ehas been a small flurry of activity centered i nexotic, suburban Downer's Grove, Illinois . I'veheard slot of good things about a group calledRIGHTS OF THE ACCUSED, though I have yet to checkthem out personally . So there you have it . Admit-tedly, the scene is pretty bleak, considering th efact that Chicago is the second larggst city i nthe U .S . However, there are several great bands i nthe area that are not getting the publicity (an dthe recording contracts) that they deserve simpl ybecause they are not from L .A . or San Francisco o rNew York . The EFFIGIES, ARTICLES OF FAITH, andTRIAL BY FIRE are just as good or better than anyof the groups that have come from those cities i nthe past year or two . Remember, don't miss theEFFIGIES when they come here some time this fall .

Oh yeah, Jon Hope, DIE KRUZEN is not the onl yWisconsin hardcore . HUSKER DU plays Chicago alot .They are a three-piece with a fine LP called " LandSpeed Record" (on New Alliance) Their sound i svery loud, very noisy and very fast . And they hav ea drummer who looks like Pugsley from the Addam sFamily . I witnessed a HUSKER DU gig at Oz 2 year sago where said Pugsley clone went into a back roomand returned with a 5-gallon can of blue paint . Heproceeded to open the can and shower the audienc ewith it . A band undoubtedly destined for a gues tappearance on Solid Gold .

RAY GUN GOES BACK TO HOLLYWOO D"An Observation"

by TML

Why was it that most people were pro-war backbefore Pearl Harbor and during the wars that fol-lowed? In the 4O's the government financed produ-cers and studios to make movies that portrayed wa ras Fun! Adventurous! Romantic! You know, the kindwhere Johnny always came home to his girl, Theybrainwashed this country into wanting to go t Owar. They needed to get the country into the righ tframe of mind . War was the salvation of a depressedeconomy and high unemployment, and movies were theperfect vehicle . When the vets relayed storie sfrom Vietnam, they said at first they felt likethey were in a John Wayne movie, jumping off th ehelicopter with everyone, until a buddy's head gotblown off next to him. Mom never bothered to por-tray those grisly details .

"So what?", most assholes would reply .Fuckin WAKE UP! Seen or heard of "An Office r

and A Gentleman" or "Inchon"? Seen the unemploy-ment rate? RayGun strikes again! He's getting thi scountry acclimated to the 'patriotism' of it all ,the self-righteousness of the U .S . to be mediato rof conflict, anywhere, especially where we don' tbelong. (Beirut ring a bell?) He's trying to be soslick, easing us into the idea, keeping the jobmarket squeezed tight . Starting up registration forthe draft again .

Where the hell is all the awareness we had

RONALD REAGANTHIS IS YOUR LIFE• US President • Propagator of NuclearWar in Europe • Butcher of El Salvador• Maggie's friend • Prop of right-win gdictators from Guatemala to Argentina ,from Turkey to the Philippines• Opponent of the Equal Right s

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. • Anti-trade unionists Enemy of workerseverywhere• One-time actor in crummy moviesWE DON'T LIKE ONE BIT OF IT !

after Vietnam? We're being subtly swayed by thi spropaganda and don't see it coming .

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Q : How did Come Org . get started ?A : There is an empty void on all levels, some -body has to fill it .Q : Is there an overall purpose or objective thatexists behind the type of records you release ?A : Just to make people think for themselves an dbreak a few taboos .Q : What type of problems (if any) have you encoun-tered with censorship of some of your projects ?A : Rough Trade UK has stopped distribution of ou rrecords, also we have problems in live performan-ces .Q : Can you give us a brief history of a few of th egroups you work with, and perhaps who the groupsEre, and who's involved ?A : We have axed all the groups on our label, andwe are looking for more brutal and radical ones .Q : Do you think there's a particular kind of in-dividual that buys and enjoys Your records, goe sto the shows, etc . . . . ?A : No, but the ones who enjoy it most are mental-ly free people .

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