Transcripts Attorneys Arguments.Katherine Jackson V AEG Live August 21st 2013

7/30/2019 Transcripts Attorneys Arguments.Katherine Jackson V AEG Live August 21st 2013

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K`tlorijo G`bksfj U @OA Civo @uaust 80st 8>02

@ttfrjoys @raumojts

,Tlo efccfwija prfboodijas woro locd ij fpoj bfurt# futsido tlo prosojbo fe tlo gurfrs 7)

Gudao* Affd mfrjija* Bfujsoc# m`ko `ppo`r`jbos*

Mr* Hfyco* Hri`j ^`jisl `jd Kovij Hfyco efr tlo pcìjtiees* Affd mfrjija*

Ms* B`l`j* K`tlryj B`l`j efr doeojd`jts* Affd mfrjija*

Ms* Hij`* Gossib` Rtohhijs Hij` efr doeojd`jts*

Mr* ûtj`m* M`rvij ûtj`m efr doeojd`jts*

Gudao* Tl`jk yfu* Ql`t did yfu w`jt tf t ck `hfut6

Ms* B`l`j* Gust vory hrioecy# yfur lfjfr# hoefro wo aot st`rtod# wo l`d -- witl rospobt tf Dr*

@d`ms! dopfsitifj# wlibl wo!ro btu`ccy afija tf pc`y tlis ètorjffj# tloro woro gust ` bfupco


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fe issuos tl`t I w`jtod tf `ddross vory hrioecy* Eirst is ij cialt fe tlo buts tl`t woro m`do `hfut

tlo plfjo bfjvors`tifj fj tl`t Rujd`y# tloro!s ` -- it!s gumpy rialt jfw wloro lo h`sib`ccy s`ys#

(I w`s afija tf blurbl#(`jd tloj lo s`ys# (`jd sf I dobidod tf af `jyw`y tf tlis mootija*( @jd

sf I prfpfsod tf Mr* Hfyco ` stipuc`tifj* Rf rialt jfw it ro`ds ,ro`dija)7

P* Lfw did it bfmo tf ho tl`t yfu mot Dr* Bfjr`d Murr`y fj ` Rujd`y ij M`rbl fe 8>>96

@*8>>9# I w`s up aottija ro`dy tf af tf blurbl* I kjfw it sfujds br`zy# hut# yfu kjfw -- `jd

tloj tlo joxt quostifj is ,ro`dija)7 wly did yfu af `jyw`y6

@* Qocc# ie yfu!ro l`vija ` lo`rt `tt`bk# yfu!ro l`vija ` lo`rt prfhcom# `jd -- yfu kjfw# wly

jft6 I!m ` dfbtfr* I mo`j# tlis is Miblòc G`bksfj* Rf I prfpfsod tf Mr* Hfyco tl`t wo pùso

tlo vidof `jd s`y dr* @d`ms tostieiod tl`t lo roboivod ` plfjo b`cc erfm dr* Murr`y# dr* Murr`y`skod dr* @d`ms tf moot witl lim `jd Miblòc G`bksfj# dr* @d`ms àrood tf moot tlom `t dr*

Murr`y!s feeibo c`tor tl`t d`y* Tl`t oxpcìjs wl`t l`ppojs joxt# it dfosjt aot ijtf `jy fe tlo

lo`rs`y issuos tl`t tloy woro bfjborjod `hfut# `jd I tlijk tl`t wfucd ho `bbopt`hco* Mr* Hfyco#

c`st I lo`rd# w`s jft l`ppy witl tl`t*

Mr* Hfyco* Tl`t!s gust roitor`tija tlo ox`bt lo`rs`y tl`t tlo bfurt kopt fut*

Ms* B`l`j* Tloro!s ` cft mfro tf tlo bfjvors`tifj tl`t tlo bfurt kopt fut*

Gudao* Lfw b`j wo gust cfaib`ccy m`ko tlo gump6 Is tloro sfmo w`y

Mr* ^`jisl* B`j yfu ro`d tlo c`st sojtojbo ij tlo vidof6

Ms* B`l`j* Ruro* Xialt jfw it afos erfm ,ro`dija)7 lfw did it bfmo tf ho tl`t yfu mot Dr*

Bfjr`d Murr`y fj ` Rujd`y ij M`rbl fe 8>>96

@* 8>>9# I w`s up aottija ro`dy tf af tf blurbl* I kjfw it sfujds br`zy# hut# yfu kjfw --

P* @jd wly did yfu af `jyw`y6


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@* Qocc# ie yfu!ro l`vija ` lo`rt `tt`bk fr ie yfu l`vo ` lo`rt prfhcom `jd -- yfu kjfw# wly jft6

I!m ` dfbtfr# yfu kjfw# tlis is Miblòc G`bksfj* I mo`j# yfu kjfw# ie lo s`ys# (I jood

sfmotlija#( Im afija tf af*

P* @jd wloro yfu wojt# tl`t w`s tf Dr* Murr`y!s feeibo6

@* Tl`ts bfrrobt*

Mr* ^`jisl* Ql`t!s tlo joxt sojtojbo ètor tl`t6

Ms* B`l`j* Tl`t!s tlo ojd*

Mr* ^`jisl* Tl`t!s tlo ojd fe tlo dopf6

Ms* B`l`j* Tl`t!s tlo ojd fe tlo twf bcips tl`t l`vo tlo a`p rialt jfw* ,Xo`dija 7)

P* Q s tl`t lis feeibo fj O`st ec`mijaf rf`d6

@* Tl`t is bfrrobt*

Mr* ^`jisl* Gust s`y lo wojt tf moot `t tl`t feeibo*

Mr* Hfyco* Ql`t `hfut gust lo aft ` b`cc erfm Dr* Murr y tl`t cod tf ` mootija# `jd tloj -- `s

fppfsod tf af ijtf `cc wl`t w`s sìd fj tlo b`cc6

Mr* ^`jisl* Rf lo aft ` b`cc erfm Dr* Murr`y*

Ms* B`l`j* Rf Dr* @d`ms tostieiod tl`t lo roboivod ` plfjo b`cc erfm Dr* Murr`y*

Mr* ^`jisl* @jd lo wojt tf Dr* Murr`ys feeibo*


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Gudao* Fk`y*

Ms* B`l`j* Fk`y* Tl`t!s eijo*

Mr* ^`jisl* Tloro yfu af* Uory affd*

Ms* B`l`j* @jd tloj --

Gudao* Tlo witjoss!s `jswor# yfu sìd# w`s bfjeusija6

Ms* B`l`j* Tlis wicc ho hottor# yfur lfjfr* I tlijk it wicc uctim`tocy l`ja tfaotlor fk`y witl

tlis pùso ij ro`dija tl`t st`tomojt* @jd tloj yfur lfjfr l`d oxbcudod fj lo`rs`y arfujds `

suhst`jti`c pfrtifj fe tostimfjy roc`tija tf ` bfjvors`tifj hotwooj Dr* Murr`y `jd Dr* @d`ms

`hfut afija fj tfur tf Cfjdfj* @jd I ujdorst`jd yfur lfjfrs rucijas* I gust w`jtod tf# efr tlo

robfrd; m`ko ` robfrd `s tf ` spobieib pfrtifj fe tlo bfjvors`tifj tl`t wo hociovo is jft lo`rs`y*

@jd tl`t!s `t pào 00?# cijos 0 tf 05* @jd efr tlo robfrd --

Gudao* @aìj# tlis is hotwooj @d`ms `jd Murr`y6

Ms* B`l`j* Yos# `hfut -- tlis is p`rt fe tl`t c`raor bfjvors`tifj `hfut Dr* @d`ms pftojti`ccy

afija fj tfur witl Dr* Murr`y `jd Mr* G`bksfj# `jd tloro w`s ` c`rao pfrtifj oxbcudod* Tloro!s

tlis fjo pfrtifj tl`t wo tlijk is -- wo w`jtod tf m`ko ` robfrd fj* Rf tl`ts `t pào --

Mr* ûtj`m* @jd tf ho bco`r# yfur lfjfr# it!s hobùso tlis pfrtifj wo hociovo w`s jft lo`rs`y

hobùso it ijdib`tos wloj Dr* Murr`y -- wl`t Dr* Murr`y hociovod ij torms fe lis hoija `hco tf

af tf Cfjdfj# wloj lo bfucd af# ot botor`* It!s impfrt`jt efr tlo robfrd efr us hobùso fe tlo

e`bt it l`ppojs `cc hoefro @OA Civo l`s ovor lo`rd fe lim fr ftlorwiso*

Mr* ^`jisl* Qo `cro`dy `rauod `cc tlis tlo ftlor d`y*

Mr* ûtj`m* I ujdorst`jd* Qo!ro puttija it fj tlo robfrd*


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Ms* B`l`j* Qo w`jtod tf m`ko ` robfrd* @t pào 00?# cijos 0 tf 05 ,ro`dija)7

P* Did Bfjr`d Murr`y s`y wlotlor lo w`s afija fj tfur6

@* Lo w`s doeijitocy afija fj tfur*

P* Did lo s`y tl`t6

@* Lo did*

P* Ql`t did lo s`y# ie yfu b`j romomhor6

@* Lo w`s afija fj tfur# yfu kjfw* Lo w`s# yfu kjfw -- lo w`s -- lo bfucdj!t wìt tf af*

P* Q s tloy `skija yfu tf gfij Dr* Bfjr`d Murr`y witl Mr* G`bksfj fj tfur ij tlo _K6

@* Ij tlis mootija# I l`d jf ido` wl`t tloy -- it w`s gust sfrt fe mijd-hfaacija tl`t sfmofjo

wfucd ho `skija mo tf af `jywloro*

P* Did Dr* Murr`y s`y lo w`s afija tf Cfjdfj# `s wocc6

@* Fl# lo doeijitocy sìd lo w`s afija* @jd gust tf m`ko tlo robfrd fj tl`t# yfur lfjfr# wo

tlijk tl`t tl`t is jft -- slfucd jft ho oxbcudod `s lo`rs`y* Dr* Murr`y!s st`tomojt tl`t lo w`s

afija fj tfur is jft hoija feeorod efr tlo trutl fe tlo m`ttor `ssortod# `jd jf fjo is bfjtostija

tlo e`bt tl`t dr* Murr`y w`s ijtojdija tf af fj tlo tfur ij Cfjdfj* Tloro w`s ` drèt bfjtr`bt#

tloro woro joafti`tifjs# tloro woro p`sspfrt issuos tl`t woro hoija wfrkod fut# `jd tlo

st`tomojt is feeorod tf slfw tlo timija fe wl`t Dr* Murr`y efujd fut `hfut tlo tfur `jd w`s

ijvitod tf ho ` p`rt fe it# `s Mr* utj`m gust `ccudod tf* Tlo e`bt tl`t dr* Murr`y w`s t`ckija

witl sfmohfdy `hfut afija fj tlo tfur `t co`st ` mfjtl hoefro @OA Civo l`d ovor lo`rd fe

lim# wo tlijk is -- `jd hoefro lo hoa`j joafti`tifjs witl @OA Civo is# fhvifuscy# vory rocov`jt

tf tlo b`so* Xoa`rdcoss fe wlotlor fr jft Dr* Murr`y uctim`tocy w`s btu`ccy afija tf af fj tlo


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tfur# it afos tf lis ujdorst`jdija `jd tlo soquojbo fe ovojts hobùso tlis is ` st`tomojt ij c`to

m`rbl fr o`rcy @pric*

Gudao* Qocc# is Murr`ys ujdorst`jdija ro`ccy `t issuo6 It!s wl`t @OA ujdorstffd# rialt6

Ms* B`l`j* Qocc# yfur lfjfr# it afos ox`btcy tf tlo issuo fe wlotlor Dr* Murr`y!s sorvibos

woro ojaàod `jd wlotlor lo l`d `j oxpobt`tifj `hfut afija tf Cfjdfj hoefro `jd sop`r`to

`jd `p`rt erfm bfjtr`bt joafti`tifjs witl @OA Civo* @jd tloro!s hooj tlis issuo fe pcìjtiees

`ssortija tl`t tloro w`s sfmo kijd fe bùs`tifj `jd ` bfjecibt fe ijtorost tl`t b`mo ijtf hoija `s `

rosuct fe tlo drèt àroomojt tl`t w`s joafti`tod suhst`jti`ccy c`tor# `jd sf wo df tlijk tlis is

ijdopojdojtcy siajieib`jt `jd impfrt`jt `jd is hoija feeorod efr ` jfj-lo`rs`y purpfso# wlibl is

wly wo w`jtod tf m`ko tlo robfrd fj tlis issuo*

Gudao* Fk`y* Cot mo lo`r erfm --

Mr* ^`jisl* Yfur lfjfr# wo disbussod `cc fe tlis*

Gudao* I kjfw* I w`jt tf lo`r àìj*

Mr* ^`jisl* Tlis is tlo tlird ro`rauija fe tlis*

Mr* Hfyco* Rf ovoj tlfual tloy sìd tloy worojt ro`rauija it# it sfujds ciko tloy gust ro`rauod

it6 Fk`y* Qo tlijk tl`t!s bco`r lo`rs`y ciko cc fe tlo ftlor -- tlo wlfco tlija is ` bfjvors`tifj

fe wl`t Dr* Murr`y sìd# `jd tlo bfurt kopt fut `cc -- ovorytlija ocso `jd tloro!s jf ro`sfj tl`t

tlis piobo slfucd bfmo ij* I mo`j# it!s bco`rcy hoija feeorod efr tlo trutl; `jd Dr* Murr`y is jft

loro tf s`y it `jd oxpcìj it*

Gudao* Tl`t Dr* Murr`y w`s afija tf af fj tlo tfur `t tl`t timo6

Mr* Hfyco* Xialt# yos*

Ms* B`l`j* Dr* Murr`y l`d `j ijtojtifj `s fe -- `j ujdorst`jdija `jd ijtojtifj `s fe M`rbl fr

@pric 8>>9 tl`t lo w`s afija tf af fj tfur# af tf Cfjdfj ij Gucy*


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Mr* Hfyco* @jd tl`t!s feeorod efr tlo trutl*

Mr* ^`jisl* Tlis wlfco bfjvors`tifj w`s oxbcudod* Qo rauod tlis fj Mfjd`y oxtojsivocy*

@jd tloy s`y tloy w`jt tf m`ko ` robfrd# hut tloy w`jt tf ro`rauo*

Gudao* Fk`y* Tloy m`do tloir robfrd*

Ms* B`l`j* Tl`jk yfu# yfur lfjfr* @jd I didj!t kjfw ie tlo bfurt l`d `j upd`to `hfut

Roptomhor 5tl# gust `s wo woro do`cija witl tlo issuos --

Mr* ûtj`m* Qo woro afija tf t`ck tf tlo gurfrs `hfut wlotlor tloy l`vo --

Gudao* I tlijk wo woro afija tf aivo tlom tlo b`cojd`r*

Mr* ûtj`m* Ie yfu b`j `sk tlom `hfut tlo 5tl# tl`t wfucd ho aro`t*

Gudao* Qo!cc t`ck tf tlom* Qo gust l`vojt l`d timo*

Ms* B`l`j* Tl`t!s eijo# yfur lfjfr* I gust didjt w`jt tf wìt tf rìso it ujtic ètor tlo gurfrs

woro afjo efr tlo d`y hobùso --

Gudao* I dfj!t mijd hoija romijdod* Hobùso tlijas ecy fut fe my lo`d# sf pco`so romijd mo*

Ms* B`l`j* Tl`jk yfu# yfur lfjfr* Tl`t w`s `cc I joodod tf `ddross hoefro tlo gury is hrfualt

ij*

Gudao* Fk`y* Rf wo l`vo sfmo vidofs* Ql`t is yfur frdor fe vidofs6

Ms* B`l`j* Goeeroy @d`ms# wo!ro afija tf df eirst; tloj Dr* Afrdfj# wlibl wicc prfh`hcy ojd

up hoija spcit fvor tlo cujbl lfur; `jd tloj Dr* @d`ms*


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Gudao* Fk`y*

,Tlo efccfwija prfboodijas woro locd ij fpoj bfurt# ij tlo prosojbo fe tlo gurfrs 7)

Gudao* Affd mfrjija# ovoryhfdy*

Gudao* Tl`jk yfu# ovoryhfdy* Tfd`y is wl`t I b`cc vidof d`y* Qoro afija tf ho pc`yija ` cft

fe vidofs* @jd wlico tl`t m`y ho ` cft fe sittija `jd cistojija# tlo affd jows is tl`t wloj tloy

pc`y tlo vidofs# it mo`js tloy dfj!t l`vo tf b`cc sfmohfdy civo# wlibl b`j t`ko cfjaor# sf it!s

`btu`ccy ` volibco tf mfvo tlijas cfja* Fk`y6 Hobùso civo witjossos tojd tf t`ko ` cittco hit

cfjaor* Rf `ctlfual yfu m`y l`vo tf sit `jd cistoj `jd it m`y dr a fj ` cittco hit# it!s `btu`ccy

e`stor* Fk`y6 Rf tl`jk yfu# doeojd`jts*

Ms* B`l`j* Qitl tl`t# yfur lfjfr# tlo eirst vidof wo wicc ho pc`yija `jd witjoss wo wicc ho

b`ccija hy vidof is Goeeroy Coo @d`ms# `-d-`-m-s*

,Oxborpts fe tlo vidoft`pod dopfsitifj fe Goeeroy Coo @d`ms woro pc`yod*)

Ms* B`l`j* Yfur lfjfr tl`t bfjbcudos tlo vidof dopfsitifj fe Goeeroy @d`ms* Tloro woro jforr`t` bfrrobtifjs tf tl`t tr jsbript* Tlo joxt tr`jsbript wo l`vo is efr Dr* Rtoploj# s-t-o-p-l-o-j#

w* Afrdfj* Tlis is ` vidof fe `hfut `j lfur `jd ` l`ce# sf it wicc t`ko us `brfss tlo cujbl hro`k*

I dfj!t kjfw ie yfur lfjfr w`jtod tf t`ko ` mfrjija hro`k jfw fr pùso tlo vidof `t sfmo pfijt*

Gudao* Ql`t timo did wo st`rt6

Ms* B`l`j* Xialt `rfujd 0>7>>*

Gudao* Qo b`j koop afija ujtic 0070? tf 0072>*

Ms* B`l`j* @jd tloro wicc ho fjo pùso# `s wocc# tf ro`d ` st`tomojt ij tlo dopfsitifj* Rf

doeojd`jts b`cc hy vidof dopfsitifj Dr* Rtoploj w* Afrdfj*


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,Oxborpts fe tlo vidoft`pod dopfsitifj fe Rtoploj w* Afrdfj woro pc`yod*)

Ms* B`l`j* Tlis is prfh`hcy ` affd spft tf pùso efr tlo hro`k# yfur lfjfr*

Gudao* Fk`y* @cc rialt* 0072>*

,05-mijuto roboss t`koj*)


Mr* Hfyco* Yfur lfjfr# ro`ccy hrioecy -- `jd woro prfh`hcy gust hoija fvorcy sojsitivo# `jd wo

kjfw tlo bfurt didj!t ijtojd tf df tlis# hut wloj tlo bfurt tl`jkod tlo doeojd`jts efr pc`yija

vidof ij `j oeefrt tf mfvo tlo tri`c `cfja# tl`t bfucd `rau`hcy aivo -- wocc# tloy!ro pc`yija vidof

hobùso tloso witjossos `ro `cc uj`vìc`hco `jd fut fe st`to `jd hoyfjd tlo suhpfoj` pfwor* Qo

dfj!t w`jt tf aivo tlo gury tlo improssifj tl`t hy us b`ccija civo witjossos# woro sfmolfw jft

tryija tf mfvo tlo tri c `cfja* Rf m`yho tlo bfurt b`j gust oxpcìj tf tlom tl`t tlo vidofs ro

pc`yod wloj tlo witjossos `ro fut fe st`to `jd suhpfoj` pfwor*

Ms* B`l`j* Tlo bfurt l`s `csf sìd tlo vidof is hfrija# sf I tlijk it!s eìr tf st`to --

Gudao* Tloro w`s ` cittco hit fe `j impcib`tifj tl`t it w`s ` cittco hfrija# hut it bfucd ho slfrtor

tl`j b`ccija civo# sf I dfj!t tlijk it!s

Mr* ^`jisl* I tlijk yfu woro gust tryija tf sfetoj tlo hcfw fe w`tblija tlo vidof# hut it m`y ho

-- `btu`ccy# wl`t yfu sìd --


Gudao* Hoefro wo bfjtijuo tlo vidof# gurfr jumhor 5# I did aot yfur jfto# `jd I sl`rod it witl

tlo `ttfrjoys* I lfpo wo dfj!t l`vo tf do`c witl tl`t fj Roptomhor 8>tl* I lfpo wo!cc ho dfjo

hoefro tloj* Rf wly dfj!t I t`ko tl`t up bcfsor tf tl`t timo# hobùso I tlijk wo!cc ho dfjo hy


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tloj# hut -- fk`y* Tl`jk yfu* Hut tl`jk yfu efr `cortija us tf tl`t* @cc rialt* Bfujsoc6 Dr*

Afrdfj6

Ms* B`l`j* Yos*


Ms* B`l`j* Dr* Afrdfj l`d trfuhco spobieib`ccy romomhorija wlotlor Miblòc G`bksfj b`mo

ij twf d`ys c`tor fj Fbtfhor 4 efr tlo efccfw-up prfboduro* Lfwovor# tlo p`rtios l`vo

stipuc`tod tl`t subl ` prfboduro did t`ko pc`bo fj tl`t d`to*

Gudao* Tl`jk yfu*,Oxborpts fe tlo vidoft`pod dopfsitifj fe Rtoploj w* Afrdfj woro pc`yod*)

Ms* B`l`j* Yfur lfjfr# wo!cc stfp tloro efr tlo cujbl hro`k*

Gudao* Fk`y* Tl`jk yfu* ^co`so roturj `t 072>*

,Tlo efccfwija prfboodijas woro lo`rd ij fpoj bfurt# futsido tlo prosojbo fe tlo gury 7)

Gudao* Tlo stèe romijdod mo wo!ro roturjija fj Tuosd`y6

Ms* B`l`j* Tl`t!s wly tfd`y w`s ` vidof d`y# sf wo didj!t l`vo tf spcit ` witjoss fvor ` eivo-

d`y hro`k# yfur lfjfr*

Mr* ûtj`m* Tlis w`s tl`t tlroo-d`y porifd I w`s `skija ie wo bfucdj!t ar`h h`bk fjo d`y#

hobùso I tlijk its fjo porsfj tlis wlfco timo* Hut it is wl`t it is# wo!ro tloro jfw*

Gudao* Fk`y*


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Ms* B`l`j* Yfur lfjfr# gust efr pc`jjija purpfsos efr tlis ètorjffj# wo!cc eijisl tlo

dopfsitifj fe Dr* Afrdfj# wo!cc df tlo dopfsitifj fe Dr* @d`ms# wlibl is ciko `hfut `j lfur# 0?#

fr sf# `jd tloj I `jtibip`to wo!cc ojd ` cittco hit o`rcy `jd b`j cot tlo gury af `jd tloj do`c witl

tlo Rlimocm`j mftifj `jd tlo U`j U`cij -- `raumojt `hfut tlo U`j U`cij dopfsitifj rucijas yfur

lfjfr l`d prfvidod o`rcior tlis wook*

Mr* ûtj`m* Ie it!s fk`y witl tlo bfurt*

Ms* B`l`j* Yos* Fe bfurso*

Gudao* Fk`y* Tl`jk yfu*


Gudao* Affd ètorjffj* Qo woro ij tlo middco fe ` vidof# worojt wo6

Ms* B`l`j* Yos* Qo!ro afija tf rosumo witl tlo dopfsitifj tostimfjy hy vidof fe Dr* Rtoploj

Afrdfj*

Gudao* Tl`jk yfu*


Ms* B`l`j* Tl`t bfjbcudos tlo vidof dopfsitifj fe -- vidof tostimfjy hy dopfsitifj fe Dr*

Rtoploj Afrdfj* Dr* Afrdfj did jft m`ko `jy bfrrobtifjs tf tlo pfrtifjs fe tlo dopfsitifj tl`t

woro pc`yod* @jd tloro woro tlroo -- tloro `ro tlroo oxlihits tl`t Id ciko tf mfvo ijtf ovidojbo

ij bfjgujbtifj witl tlo pc`yija fe Dr* Afrdfjs dopfsitifj* Tlo eirst is tri`c oxlihit jumhor

08100* Tl`t w`s oxlihit 8 tf Dr* Afrdfj!s dopfsitifj* @jd it rujs up tf jumhorod pào 04

witlij tlo oxlihit jumhor* Tlo sobfjd is tri`c oxlihit jumhor 08102# wlibl w`s oxlihit 4 tf Dr*

Afrdfj!s dopfsitifj# `jd tl`t rujs up tf jumhorod pào 8 witlij tlo oxlihit jumhor* Tlo tlird

is tri`c oxlihit jumhor 0810?# wlibl is oxlihit 2 tf Dr* Afrdfj!s dopfsitifj; `jd tl`t rujs up tf

pào jumhor 9 witlij tlo oxlihit jumhor*


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Mr* Hfyco* Jf fhgobtifjs# yfur lfjfr*

Gudao* Fk`y* Xoboivod*

,Xoboivod ijtf ovidojbo# oxlihits 08100# 08102 `jd 0810?# dfbumojts*)

Ms* B`l`j* @jd# yfur lfjfr# wo l`vo fjo `dditifj`c dopfsitifj tf pc`y tlis ètorjffj# wlibl

is `hfut `j lfur `jd toj mijutos# sf I tlijk wo!cc pùso it efr tlo hro`k rfujd 27>>* Qfucd tl`t

ho `bbopt`hco# yfur lfjfr6

Gudao* Fk`y*

Ms* B`l`j* @jd tl`t is tlo dopfsitifj fe Dr* D`vid @d`ms# `-d-`-m-s*

,Oxborpts fe tlo vidoft`pod dopfsitifj fe D`vid @d`ms woro pc`yod*)

Ms* B`l`j* Yfur lfjfr# tlis is prfh`hcy ` affd pc`bo tf t`ko tlo ètorjffj hro`k*

Gudao* @cc rialt* 0? mijutos*

,88-mijuto roboss t`koj*)

Gudao* Cot!s bfjtijuo witl Dr* @d`ms*

Ms* B`l`j* Yfur lfjfr# gust `s ` romijdor# woro afija tf pùso it hrioecy ij ` cittco wlico tf

ro`d sfmotlija tl`t tlo p`rtios àrood tf* @jd I tlijk wo l`vo ` cittco coss tl`j ` l`ce lfur tf af

efr tlis fjo*


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Ms* B`l`j* Dr* @d`ms tostieiod tl`t lo roboivod ` plfjo b`cc erfm Dr* Murr`y `jd lo wojt tf

Dr* Murr`y!s feeibo*


Ms* B`l`j* Yfur lfjfr tl`t bfjbcudos tlo vidof dopfsitifj tostimfjy fe Dr* D`vid @d`ms*

Tloro `ro tlroo oxlihits tl`t doeojd`jts wfucd ciko tf mfvo ijtf ovidojbo ij bfjjobtifj witl tlo

pc`yija fe lis dopfsitifj* Tlo eirst is tri c oxlihit jumhor 8840# `csf m`rkod `s dopfsitifjoxlihit 2* @jd it is ` tlroo-pào dfbumojt* Tlo sobfjd is tri c oxlihit jumhor 8842# oxlihit 4 tf

Dr* @d`ms! dopfsitifj; `jd tl`t!s ` twf-pào dfbumojt* @jd tlo c`st is tri`c oxlihit 884?; oxlihit

jumhor ? tf Dr* @d`ms! dopfsitifj; `jd tl`t is `csf ` tlroo-pào dfbumojt*

Mr* Hfyco* Jf fhgobtifjs# yfur lfjfr*

Gudao* Fk`y* Tl`jk yfu* Tlfso `ro roboivod*

,Xoboivod ijtf ovidojbo# oxlihits 8840# 8842 `jd 884?# dfbumojts*)

Gudao* @jd tl`t!s it# rialt6

Ms* B`l`j* Yos* Tl`t!s ojfual efr fjo d`y*

Gudao* @cc rialt* Tl`jk yfu* I auoss wo l`vo ` eow d`ys jfw hoefro I soo yfu àìj* Tuosd`y#wlibl is tlo 81tl# `t 0>7>> f!bcfbk is wloj yfu `ro tf roturj* @jd fjo ftlor tlija I w`jt tf

bc`riey* I hociovo my stèe spfko tf yfu `hfut Roptomhor 5tl# tl`t Erid`y* Gust tf bc`riey# yfu `ro

àrooija tl`t tl`t wicc jf cfjaor ho ` d`rk d`y# tl`t ovoryfjo b`j bfmo tf bfurt fj tl`t d`y#

rialt6 Efr ` eucc d`y6 Fk`y* Affd* Ie tl`t!s jft tlo b`so# rìso yfur l`jd* Fk`y* Uory affd*

@cc rialt* Tloj I wicc soo yfu fj tlo 81tl `t 0>7>> f!bcfbk* L`vo ` affd cfja hro`k* Cot mo

`dmfjisl yfu* Df yfu romomhor tlo dmfjitifjs6 Yos# yfu romomhor tl`t fjo* Dfj!t disbuss


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tlo b`so witl `jyhfdy# dfj!t ro`d `jytlija# dfj!t cistoj tf `jytlija `hfut tlo b`so# `jd dfjt t`ck

tf o`bl ftlor `hfut tlo b`so* Fk`y6 Rf Icc soo yfu fj Tuosd`y* Tl`jk yfu* Tuosd`y `t 0>7>>

f!bcfbk*

,toj-mijuto roboss t`koj*)


Gudao* Fk`y* Ql`t df yfu w`jt tf st`rt witl6

Ms* B`l`j* Ql`tovor yfur lfjfr proeors# oitlor tlo Rlimocm`j mftifj fr tlo U`j U cij

dopfsitifj# wl`tovor --

Gudao* Cot!s st`rt witl tlo mftifj# `jd tloj wocc s`jdwibl ij tlo U j U cij -- its pcìjtiees

mftifj6

Ms* B`l`j* It is pcìjtiees! mftifj*

Mr* Hfyco* Yfur lfjfr# `s wo!vo sfrt fe -- wovo sfrt fe pro-`rauod tlis fjo ` cittco hit# `jd wo

eicod ` eow-pào hrioe* Hut# ij sum# h`sib`ccy Dr* Rlimocm`j is ` pcìjtiees! oxport fj `ddibtifj*

Qo dobidod tf jft b`cc lim `jd gust af witl fur ftlor auy# Dr* Rbljfcc; `jd tlo doeojso w`jts tf

pc`y jfw sfmo fe Rlimocm`js tostimfjy* Qo hociovo tl`ts bumuc tivo jft fjcy tf Rbljfcc# hut

tf tlo doeojd`jts twf oxports# wlf `ro O`rcoy `jd Covfujis* @jd sf wo wfucd gust suhmit tl`t

Rlimocm`j slfucd jft ho pc`yod*

Gudao* Ql`t is Rlimocm`j `ddija tf --6

Ms* B`l`j* Rf Rlimocm`j -- eirst fe `cc# yfur lfjfr# I tlijk it!s siajieib`jt tlo h`sis fe tlo

mftifj is tl`t it wfucd ho bumuc`tivo fe tlo tostimfjios fe Drs* O`rcoy `jd Covfujis# wlf

l`voj!t tostieiod yot*

Gudao* Hut tloy wicc ho# rialt6 Rf --


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Ms* B`l`j* It wfj!t ho -- sf tloro `ro ` bfupco fe tlijas `hfut -- wo fjcy dosiaj`tod 08

mijutos fe tostimfjy erfm Dr* Rlimocm`j# wlf l`d twf d`ys fe dopfsitifj# sf wo woro quito

j`rrfw ij tlis* Hut ossojti`ccy lis bfro fpijifjs ro tl`t Mr* G`bksfj w s `ddibtod tf fpi`tos efr

prfh`hcy 8> yo`rs witl jf siajieib`jt porifds fe romissifj* Drs* O`rcoy `jd Covfujis àroo

`hfut tlo e`bt tl`t Mr* G`bksfj w`s `ddibtod tf fpi`tos `t sfmo timo# hut tloy dfj!t bfvor `s cfja

fe ` timo porifd `s Dr* Rlimocm`j dfos* Ij `dditifj# Dr* Rlimocm`j is tlo fjcy oxport wlf s`ys

tl`t Mr* G`bksfj w`s `ddibtod tf Hojzfdi`zopijos* Joitlor fe doeojd`jts! oxports b`j

bfjbcusivocy st`to tl`t# jfr did pcìjtiees! ftlor oxport# Dr* Rbljfcc* @jd Dr* Rbljfcc# `s yfur

lfjfr romomhors# `t lis dopfsitifj sìd tl`t tloro w`s `j fpi`to `ddibtifj# hut hy tlo timo lo

b`mo tf tostiey `t tri`c lo bl`jaod lis fpijifj jd sìd lo didj!t tlijk tloro w`s ovoj ojfual

ovidojbo tf s`y tl`t Mr* G`bksfj w`s `ddibtod tf fpi tos* @jd tloj Dr* Rlimocm`j w`s csf

dosiaj`tod --

Gudao* @jd Hojzfdi`zopijo is `j fpi`to6

Ms* B`l`j* It!s ` dieeorojt b`toafry fe druas* It!s ciko tlo vorsod tl`t lo w`s t`ckija hfut*

Mr* Hfyco* \`j`x*

Ms* B`l`j* Tlijas ciko \`j`x# @tiv`j# druas fe tl`t b`toafry* It!s ` dieeorojt bc`ss fe druas*

@jd tloj tlo ftlor `ro` wloro Dr* Rlimocm`j!s tostimfjy is ujiquo is lo is tlo fjcy pcìjtiee --

pcìjtiees! oxport dosiaj`tod fj cieo oxpobt`jby* Dr* Rbljfcc w`s jft# `ctlfual lo sfrt fe tfublodupfj sfmo fe tlo bfjbopts* @jd Dr* --

Gudao* Tlis is tlo fjo wook tf civo# rialt6

Ms* B`l`j* Xialt* @jd# `btu`ccy# durija tlo Hriaas ox`mij`tifj# Mr* ^`jisl m`do tlo pfijt

tl`t Dr* Rlimocm`j w`s tlo fjcy oxport wlf sìd tl`t G`bksfjs cieo oxpobt`jby w`s fjo wook#

`jd tl`t w`s ` pfijt fe ompl`sis* @jd sf tloro `ro siajieib`jt ujiquo fpijifjs tl`t Dr*

Rlimocm`j feeors tl`t wo!vo put ijtf tlis vory slfrt 08 mijutos fe tostimfjy; `jd# yfur lfjfr# Itlijk it!s p`rtibuc`rcy impfrt`jt tf ompl`sizo loro tlo e`bt tl`t Dr* Rlimocm`j is pcìjtiees!

oxport# `jd lo disàroos ij lis ossojti`c bfjbcusifjs witl Dr* Rbljfcc# wlf is pcìjtiees! ftlor

oxport* @jd tlo twf -- tloro `ro twf b`sos tl`t wo bito ij doeojd`jts! fppfsitifj hrioe* Fjo is

Mfjrfy v* Bity fe C@# 054 b`c*`pp*4tl 84>< b`so* @jd tlo ftlor is H`sl`m# h-`-s-l-

`-m# v* H`hbfbk# 44 b`c*`pp*4tl 0101# ` 0995 b`so* @jd -- wlibl st`jds efr tlo prfpfsitifj tl`t

it!s rovorsihco orrfr tf oxbcudo uje`vfr`hco dopfsitifj tostimfjy# `j oxport tl`t wfucd l`vo


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hffstod tlo brodihicity fe tlo ftlor sido!s oxport `jd b`ccod ijtf quostifj tlo oxports efr tlo s`mo

sido tl`t tlo oxbcudod oxport!s tostimfjy w`s feeorod* @jd tloro ro sfmo impfrt`jt quftos

erfm tl`t* Ij tlo Mfjrfy b`so# `t 851# tlo bfurt s`ys ovoj ie ` doeojso oxport wicc tostiey tf tlo

s`mo bfjbcusifj `s ` pcìjtiee!s fwj oxport# tlo tostimfjy wicc jft ho idojtib`c# wicc l`vo

dieeorojt efbusos `jd wicc ho `bbfmp`jiod hy dieeorojt oxpc`j`tifjs* Ruhtcotios ij rospfjsos

b`j ho britib`c* Xopotitifj is fetoj tlo koy tf hociov`hicity# `jd brodihicity m`y ho ojl`jbod

wloj ` doeojso oxport aroos witl tlo pcìjtiee!s oxport* Idojtib`c fr virtu`ccy idojtib`c ovidojbo

m`y jft ho bumuc`tivo ie tloro is siajieib`jbo tf tlo ovidojti`ry woialt tf ho aivoj; it is fetoj

ijv`cu`hco tf l`vo ovidojbo bfmo erfm dieeorojt sfurbos* @jd wo tlijk tl`t tloso twf b`sos `ro

ox`btcy fj pfijt loro* Tlis is ` situ`tifj wloro twf fe pcìjtiees! oxports disàroo witl o`bl

ftlor# `jd pcìjtiees -- tlo e`bt tl`t pcìjtiees l`vo `j oxport tl`t àroos witl sfmo fe -- àroos

witl sfmo fe tlo bfjbcusifjs fe doeojd`jts! oxports ij tlo s`mo eiocd is siajieib`jt `jd

sfmotlija tlo gury is ojtitcod tf lo`r `jd aivo woialt tf* @jd I tlijk ij `dditifj loro#

sfmotlija wo l`vo tl`t w`s jft ij oitlor fe tlfso b`sos is tl`t wovo `cro`dy l`d tostimfjy `jd

ftlor oxports roeorrija tf wl`t Dr* Rlimocm`j bfjbcudod# sf --

Gudao* Rf is tloro tostimfjy fe -- yfur witjossos wicc s`y tl`t Mr* G`bksfj w`s `ddibtod tf

Fpi`tos `jd Hojzfdi`zopijos `jd tl`t lo l`d fjo wook tf civo6

Ms* B`l`j* Jf* Fur oxports s`y --

Gudao* Rf tloy!ro jft àrooija witl yfur oxports*

Ms* B`l`j* Tloy àroo fj tlo Fpi`to `ddibtifj*

Gudao* Fk`y*

Ms* B`l`j* Tloy df jft hociovo tloro is ojfual ovidojbo ij tlo robfrd efr tlom tf ho

bfmefrt`hco s`yija lo w`s doeijitocy Hojzfdi`zopijo `ddibt# `ctlfual tloy tlijk tloro!s sfmo

ovidojbo tf suaaost tl`t tl`t mialt ho truo; jd tloy df jft aivo ` jumhor fj cieo oxpobt`jby `t`jy pfijt* Dr* O`rcoy w`s dosiaj`tod fj cieo oxpobt`jby; jd lo sìd tl`t aivoj Mr* G`bksfjs

listfry fe drua uso `jd tlo w`y lo w`s usija druas `jd tlo risks ijlorojt ij ^rfpfefc# tl`t Mr*

G`bksfjs prfajfsis w`s ar`vo# hut tloy df jft put ` jumhor fj it* Dr* Rlimocm`j is tlo fjcy

fjo wlf puts ` jumhor fj it* Rf it!s ` cittco hit fe --


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Gudao* Dfj!t put ` jumhor `t `cc fj it6

Ms* B`l`j* Jf* Rf tloro!s ` cittco hit fe fvorc`p; `jd tf tlo oxtojt tl`t tloro!s fvorc`p fj tlo

Fpi`to `ddibtifj# wo tlijk tl`t tl`t!s impfrt`jt `jd siajieib`jt ujdor Mfjrfy `jd H`sl`m* @jd

tloj tf tlo oxtojt tl`t tloro is ` disàroomojt hotwooj Dr* Rbljfcc# pcìjtiees! oxport fj tlo fjol`jd# `jd Dr* Rlimocm`j# pcìjtiees! oxport fj tlo ftlor l`jd# `hfut wlotlor Mr* G`bksfj!s cieo

oxpobt`jby w`s èeobtod hy drua uso `jd `hfut wlotlor lo w`s `ddibtod tf `jytlija# tl`t ij

itsoce is `csf vory siajieib`jt* Qo!vo m`jàod tf aot `cc tl`t ijtf 08 mijutos fe dopfsitifj

tostimfjy*

Gudao* @jd tlo fjo wook tf civo w`s# I tlijk -- w`s it qu`cieiod witl ie Murr`y w`s --

sfmotlija ciko tl`t# rialt6

Ms* B`l`j* Rf lo w`s `skod -- I `skod lim eirst# yfu kjfw# fj Gujo 84tl# lfw cfja -- ij 8>>9#

lfw cfja did Mr* G`bksfj l`vo tf civo6 @jd lo sìd ` wook* @jd tloj I s id# (Fj M`y 0st# lfw

cfja did lo l`vo tf civo6( @jd lo sìd# (@ssumija lo is jft aottija oxtr` ^rfpfefc hy M`y 0st#

lo!s `cro`dy aottija oxtr` Hojzfdi`zopijos# sf lis cieo oxpobt`jby is slfrtojod hy M`y 0st*( @jd

I sìd# (Cots af h`bk tf Eohru`ry fe 8>>9*( @jd tloj lo s`ys# (It w`s slfrtojod# siajieib`jtcy

slfrtojod*( @jd tloj lo s`ys fjbo Bfjr`d Murr`y w`s tro`tija lim --

Gudao* Tl`t!s wl`t -- yfur plysibi`js s`y tl`t# tff6

Ms* B`l`j* Jf# fur plysibi`js dfj!t s`y tl`t* Tloy dfj!t oxpross `jy kijd fe -- `cc tloy s`y --

tloy s`y jftlija `hfut Dr* Murr`y!s ijvfcvomojt# tloy s`y jftlija `hfut jumhors# mfjtls#

yo`rs# `jytlija ciko tl`t* Tloy gust s y witl sfmohfdy witl ` drua uso listfry ciko tloy soo ij

tlis robfrd -- tlis is gust Dr* O`rcoy* Lo aivos Mr* G`bksfj ` ar`vo prfajfsis# lo tlijks lis

bl`jbos fe roc`pso `jd fvordfso `ro vory lial# `jd it!s ujcikocy tl`t lo wfucd l`vo civod ` eucc

`jd lo`ctly cieo# hut lo dfosj!t put ` jumhor fj it* Dr* Rlimocm`j is tlo fjcy fjo wlf trios tf

`sbriho ` timo porifd*

Gudao* Ql`t Im s`yija is tlo jumhor tl`t lo `sbrihos is tlo fjo wook# tloro!s jf ftlor jumhor

tl`t los sbrihija6

Mr* Hfyco* Tl`t!s bfrrobt*


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Gudao* Im gust tryija tf eijd fut wl`t is tlo jumhor* Yfu tfcd lim tf af h`bk tf Eohru`ry# hut

lo dfosj!t ro`ccy aivo yfu ` jumhor*

Ms* B`l`j* @s fe M`y 0st# lo s`ys its slfrtojod# lo b`j!t aivo `j ox`bt jumhor# `jd its

mfdor`tocy slfrtojod* Fjbo Murr`y st`rts tro`tija lim# qufto# tlo bcfbk is rujjija# jd tl`t is`hfut -- tlo fjo wook is tlo fjcy timo lo a`vo `j `btu`c mo`sur`hco porifd fe timo# hut lo dfos

oxpross fpijifjs `hfut afija h`bk eurtlor ie Murr`y is ij tlo pibturo# hut it!s jft tlo c`st wook fe

G`bksfjs cieo# sfrt fe wl`t wfucd tl`t df# `jd tloj afija h`bk hoefro tloro!s `jy `ccoa`tifj tl`t

tloro w`s ^rfpfefc hoija prfvidod roauc`rcy# wl`t is lis prfajfsis `t tl`t pfijt* Rf lo dfos sfrt

fe b`hijot ij ` hujbl fe dieeorojt sboj`rifs# `jd jfhfdy ocso is dfija tl`t*

Ms* Hij`* Tlo hiaaor pfijt loro# yfur lfjfr# is ovoj ie it woro bumuc`tivo# wloj `j oxport

bfmos tf ` bfjtr`ry bfjbcusifj efr tlo fppfsito sido# tlo b`sos

Ms* B`l`j* Is rocyija fj s`y yfu l`vo tf ho `hco tf put tl`t efrw`rd hobùso tl`t ij itsoce is

siajieib`jt# tl`t tloir fwj rotìjod oxport ov`cu`tija tlo situ`tifj ijdopojdojtcy b`mo tf `

bfjbcusifj tl`t did jft suppfrt tloir b`so*

Mr* Hfyco* Yfur lfjfr# sf @OA Idojtieiod tlroo `ro`s tloy w`jt tf dosiaj`to efr lim* Fjo# tl`t

G`bksfj w`s `ddibtod tf Fpifids efr 8> yo`rs; `jd twf# los tlo fjcy oxport wlf s`ys Miblòc

G`bksfj w`s `ddibtod tf Hojzos* @jd ie yfu cffk `t tlo Rlimocm`j dopfsitifj t tlo hoaijjija#

lo doeijod `ddibtifj `jd dopojdojby `s tlo s`mo tlija* Rf lo s`ys# (Ij my mijd# `ddibtifj `jddopojdojby is tlo s`mo tlija*( Rf wlico ftlor oxports `ro s`yija Miblòc mialt ho dopojdojt#

yfu kjfw# ciko Rbljfcc did# efr ox`mpco# ij -- ij Rlimocm`js mijd# tloro!s jf dieeorojbo# `jd it!s

` som`jtib a`mo* Fur viow is tl`t Rlimocm`j `jd Rbljfcc woro tlo s mo ojfual tl`t wo gust

wojt witl Rbljfcc* Xialt6 Tlo tlird `ro` slo s`ys is tlis cieo oxpobt`jby# rialt6 @jd tlis is tlo

fjo wook tf civo tl`t wo tlijk bco`rcy lo w`s t`ckija `hfut ujdor Dr* Murr`y!s b`ro; `jd lo `csf

tostieios l`d Miblòc G`bksfj hooj aivoj prfpor b`ro efr `jy dopojdojby# sc`sl# `ddibtifj

prfhcom lo l`d# lo wfucd l`vo ` eucc cieo oxpobt`jby* Rf tl`t!s ox`btcy wl`t Rbljfcc sìd# `s

wocc* Rf wo tlijk -- tloj tloy pfijtod fut tl`t -- `hfut oxport --

Gudao* Did Rbljfcc tostiey tf tl`t6

Mr* Hfyco* Yos# lo did*


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Ms* B`l`j* Hut Dr* Rlimocm`j didj!t* Lo sìd its ujcikocy -- yos# fe bfurso# it!s `cw`ys

pfssihco tl`t ie sfmohfdy aots bco`j `jd st`ys bco`j# tloir cieo oxpobt`jby ètor tloy!vo hooj

bco`j efr ` jumhor fe yo`rs# tlo w`y sfmofjo wlf l`s quit smfkija# wicc uctim`tocy roturj tf `

jfrm`c cieo oxpobt`jby ie tloy st`y lo`ctly* Lo t`ckod ` cft `hfut roc`pso `jd tlo -- tlo vory

scim bl`jbos tl`t Mr* G`bksfj bfucd l`vo afttoj ij robfvory `jd st`yod bco`j# sf it!s jft tlo

s`mo fpijifj `s Dr* Rbljfcc feeorod t tri`c* @jd I dfj!t w`jt tf ijtorrupt Mr* Hfyco hut# `csf#

witl rospobt tf tlo ddibtifj vorsus dopojdojby tlija# ij tlo burrojt st`to fe tlo modib`c

citor`turo# ujdor tlo dhs*# tloro!s jft ` doeijitifj -- ddibtifj `jd dopojdojby `ro tro`tod `s tlo

s`mo* Dr* Rbljfcc is sfrt fe t`ckija ij er`mowfrk tl`t is jft tlo burrojt st`jd`rd fe b`ro# hut

lo didj!t -- efr purpfsos fe lis fpijifj# lo sìd jf `ddibtifj fr dopojdojby tf hojzfdi`zopijos

-- tlis is Dr* Rbljfcc -- jft `ddibtod tf fpi`tos# jft suro ie ovoj dopojdojt fj fpi`tos* Rf ovoj

ie yfu `bbopt tl`t lo!s p`rsija fut tlis doeijitifj ij ` w`y tl`t tlo ftlors dfj!t# its sticc ` dieeorojt

fpijifj*

Mr* Hfyco* Yfur lfjfr# wo soo tlis vory simic`r tf tlo Xlfm` Yfuja situ`tifj* Xlfm` yfuja

gust tostieiod* Ij pcìjtiees! b`so# wo w`jtod tf pc`y ` eow mijutos -- ciko I tlijk it w`s 0< mijutos

fe Xlfm` Yfuja hobùso wo eoct tl`t it àrood witl fur oxport# Go`j Ro`wrialt* Tlo bfurt# yfu

kjfw# sìd jf* Tloy sìd it wfucd ho bumuc`tivo tf df tl`t# `jd -- `jd tlo bfurt àrood witl

tlom# `jd wo hociovo tlis is vory simic r* Loro# ij dditifj# ij tlis b`so# jfw aivoj tlo -- wl`t

wo tlijk is ` misbl`r`btoriz`tifj fe lis bfmmojt `hfut fjo wook# wo mialt jood tf b`cc lim ij

fur rohutt`c b`so tf rohut wl`t tloy s`y lo sìd# ij wlibl b`so pc`yija tlis vidof m`kos it ovoj

mfro rodujd`jt `jd -- `jd --

Gudao* Ql`t w`s it `hfut Xlfm` Yfuja tl`t --

Ms* Hij`* Tloy dosiaj`tod ` sm`cc pfrtifj `t tlo ojd fe tloir b`so ij blioe* Tloro woro twf

ro`sfjs tl`t wo fppfsod tl`t* Fjo prijbip`ccy w`s tl`t slo w`s afija tf ho b`ccod civo `jd bfucd

ho brfss-ox`mijod fj `cc fe tloso tfpibs# sf tloro w`s jf pfijt ij pc`yija ` sm`cc p`rt fe lor

vidof wloj slo wfucd ho tostieyija civo `jd tloy bfucd aot ij tl`t s`mo tostimfjy* Tlo ftlor

tlija is tloy woro jft puccija fut lor bfro fpijifjs ij tlis b`so# yfur lfjfr; tloy woro t`kija

cittco sjippots fut fe bfjtoxt# blorry-pibkod tf hfcstor tlo brodihicity fe Go`j Ro`wrialt* Qo sìd

tl`t w`s ij`pprfpri`to# it w`s bumuc`tivo ij tl`t sojso fjcy tl`t tloy woro t`kija it fut fe bfjtoxttf hfcstor tloir fwj oxport# jft tl`t tlo bfro fpijifjs àrood witl tloir oxport* It!s `j `ppcos `jd

fr`jaos situ`tifj# yfur lfjfr* @jd ie yfu!cc rob`cc# I csf sìd `t tlo timo ij tlo ovojt tl`t wo

dfj!t b`cc Xlfm` Yfuja civo# tloj pcìjtiees m`y l`vo ` hottor `raumojt `jd b`j ro-rìso tlo

issuo ij torms fe pc yija lor dopfsitifj* Hut hobùso wo did b`cc lor civo `jd tloy l`d eucc

fppfrtujity tf brfss-ox`mijo# tloro w`s jf jood efr tlom tf t`ko tlo pfijts erfm lor dopfsitifj

`jd pc`y tlom `t tri`c* It!s jft ro`ccy tlo s`mo situ`tifj t `cc*


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Ms* B`l`j* @jd witl rospobt tf Dr* Rlimocm`j# yfur lfjfr# tloro w`sj!t `j `raumojt ij tlo

hrioeija `hfut progudibi`c# it!s gust tl`t it w`s bumuc`tivo# `jd tlo e`bt is tl`t tlis w`s ` twf-d`y

dopfsitifj# pcìjtiees bfujsoc woro tloro tlo ojtiro timo# tloy l`d pcojty fe timo tf bco`j up

wl`tovor tloy w`jtod tf bco`j up ij torms fe lis fpijifjs* @jd wo l`voj!t sooj wl`t tloy w`jttf bfujtor dosiaj`to yot; hut prosum`hcy ie tloy tlfualt lis st`tomojt w`s ujbco`r fr tloy jood

tf prfvido bfjtoxt# tloy b`j bfujtor dosiaj`to tlo `dditifj`c p`rts fe lis dopfsitifj tl`t df tl`t*

It!s jft ` ro`sfj tf sfrt fe -- it!s sfrt fe ` simic`r situ`tifj ij sfmo w`ys witl Dr* Motzaor* Qo!ro

`ccfwod tf pc`y tlis ujdor 8>8?*58>,d)* Qlotlor fr jft tloy b`j suhsoquojtcy subbosseuccy

potitifj tlo bfurt efr `jy `dditifj`c tostimfjy erfm tloso witjossos# it dfosj!t romfvo erfm us

tlo rialt tf df sf; `jd p`rtibuc`rcy loro wloro wo!ro t`ckija `hfut 08 mijutos fe tostimfjy* Tlo

ido` -- tlo ruco fj bumuc`tivo tostimfjy is tf koop it erfm ujducy bfjsumija bfurt timo fr# yfu

kjfw# hoija ijoeeibiojt; `jd tloro!s gust jf w`y tl`t tlis is afija tf mo`jijaeuccy bl`jao tlo

cojatl fe tlo tri`c ij wlibl pcìjtiees# yfu kjfw# prosojtod sovor`c mfjtls fe ovidojbo `cro`dy*

Gudao* I auoss wl`t is tlo progudibo# Mr* Hfyco6 It!s `cro`dy bfmo fut tlrfual brfss-

ox`mij`tifj fe Hriaas tl`t Rlimocm`j prfvidod tl`t ovidojbo tl`t -- tl`t l`d G`bksfj hooj

tro`tod hy Bfjr`d Murr`y ij tlis e`slifj `t tl`t timo# tl`t lo l`d fjo wook tf civo sf cfja `s

Bfjr`d Murr`y bfjtijuod tf tro`t lim* I mo`j# tl`t w`s cro`dy hrfualt fut ij tlo tostimfjy#

sf Im jft ro`ccy suro tloro!s mubl progudibo tf yfu*

Mr* Hfyco* Hut tl`t!s jft -- eirst fe `cc# wo -- tloros jf duty efr us tf bco`j up lis tostimfjy# ie

yfu wicc# ciko slo s`ys*

Gudao* Yfu!ro jft `ddrossija my quostifj* I!m `skija wl`t tlo progudibo is* It!s `cro`dy fut

tloro*

Mr* Hfyco* Hobùso tlo ido` witl bumuc`tivo is its jft tlo bfurt timo# joboss`ricy# it!s tlo

jumhor fe witjossos fj tlo s`mo tfpib* O`rcoy l`s hooj pc`yod# Rbljfcc l`s afjo# `jd tloyro

afija tf b`cc O`rcoy `jd Covfujis* Qly -- wly df -- wly slfucd `jftlor oxport fj tlo s`mo

ox`bt tfpib l`vo tf aot -- cot mo `csf s`y tloy b`jjft pc`y lim ujdor 8>8?*58>,d)* Lo!s jft `tro`tija plysibi`j* Lo jovor s`w Miblòc G`bksfj*

Ms* B`l`j* Lo!s `j oxport# tlo s`mo prfvisifj `ppcios* @jd# yfur lfjfr# tf ho bco`r# ie tloy

tlfualt tl`t tloy -- tlis is tloir oxport* Tloy l`vo twf `ddibtifj pofpco# wo l`vo twf `ddibtifj

pofpco* Ie tloy tlfualt tlo tft`c jumhor w`s tff m`jy# tloy bfucd l`vo mfvod tf cimit protri`c#


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wlibl is tlo prfpor w`y fe dfija it* Yfu b`j!t l`vo `j oxport -- yfu b`jt dosiaj`to ` scow fe

oxports# soo wlf dfos ` affd gfh# soo wlf dfos ` torrihco gfh# `jd tloj gust swoop tlo fjos wlf

df ` torrihco gfh efr yfur bùso ujdor tlo rua ètor tloy!vo aivoj dopfsitifj tostimfjy* Yfu b`jt

witldr`w ètor dopfsitifj l`s hooj aivoj* Tl`t!s quito bco`r* @jd tlis ido` tl`t tlis is

bumuc`tivo is gust -- it dfosj!t -- bumuc`tivo is mo`jt tf provojt progudibo fr --

Gudao* Tlo dieeorojbo -- I mo`j# tlo dieeorojbo is tl`t it!s fut tloro# wlibl it!s ro`ccy -- I tlijk

tlo dieeorojbo witl Hriaas is it!s gust kijd fe lo`rs`y ovidojbo tl`t lo rociod fj ij lis tostimfjy#

it!s jft tlo suhst jbo fe ovidojbo tl`t is ciko wl`t Rlimocm`j wfucd aivo yfu# I tlijk is tlo

dieeorojbo# tlo qu`cit`tivo dieeorojbo* Hut tlo ijefrm`tifj is fut tloro* Hut# `jyw`y --

Ms* B`l`j* Fur pfsitifj is tl`t it!s jft bumuc`tivo* Tlo purpfso fe tlo ruco cimitija bumuc`tivo

tostimfjy is jft sorvod hy oxbcudija tlis# `jd it wfucd ho rovorsihco orrfr ie yfur lfjfr woro tf

oxbcudo tlis tostimfjy*

Mr* Hfyco* Yfur lfjfr# wo wfucd s`y -- wo tlijk tl`t tloro!s jf ro`sfj efr it tf ho pc`yod*

Twf# ie tlo bfurt!s ijbcijod tf `ccfw it# `s I `skod tlo bfurt hoefro# I tlijk wo jood hrf`d

disbrotifj ij dfija tlo bfujtor dosiaj`tifjs tf try tf bco`j up --

Gudao* Fl# yos# suro*

Mr* Hfyco* @jd tlroo --

Gudao* Qocc# p`rtibuc`rcy -- yfu wicc ho `ccfwod tf dosiaj`to tlo p`rt `hfut Bfjr`d Murr`y

hoija ij tlo pibturo* Tl`t!s `cro`dy p`rt fe wl`t w`s prosojtod ij --

Ms* B`l`j* Qo dosiaj`tod tl`t*

Gudao* Fk`y* Tloj it!s ij tloro*

Mr* Hfyco* Hut Mr* Hriaas dojiod tl`t!s wl`t lo sìd* Mr* Hriaas sìd tl`t!s jft wl`t lo sìd;

lo mo`js ` wook ujdor `jy birbumst`jbos*


22/31

Ms* Hij`* Qlibl is ox`btcy wly tlo gury slfucd soo tlo tostimfjy efr tlomsocvos# yfur

lfjfr# hobùso Mr* Hriaas didj!t àroo witl Mr* ^`jisl!s bl`r`btoriz`tifj fe it sf tlo gury

slfucd soo tlo tostimfjy efr tlomsocvos `jd ov`cu`to it `s ` gury is suppfsod tf df*

Mr* Hfyco* Yfu kjfw# I tlijk -- ciko I sìd# dopojdija fj lfw it `cc wfrks fut# wo!ro afija tfprfh`hcy l`vo tf hrija lim ij tf m`ko bco`r wl`t lo mo`jt; tl`t it w`s ujdor Dr* Bfjr`d

Murr`ys b`ro tl`t lo l`d ` wook tf civo*

Gudao* Ie it!s `cro`dy ij tlo dopf# wly df yfu jood --6

Mr* Hfyco* Qocc# hobùso tloy `cc tojd tf tlijk -- tlo w`y it bfmos `brfss ij tlo vidof mialt#

yfu kjfw -- mialt jft ho lfw wo w`jt it tf ho# mialt jft ho s bco`r `s wo w`jt tf ho* Lo

m`do it sfrt fe `s ` bfmmojt# yfu kjfw; `jd tloy!ro ar`spija fjtf tl`t bfmmojt `jd rujjijawitl it# `jd tloy!ro -- it!s ro`ccy tyija Rlimocm`js l`jds holijd lis h`bk hobùso wo bfucd put

Rlimocm`j fj tlo st`jd `jd s`y# (wl`t did yfu mo`j wloj yfu sìd tl`t6( @jd lo wicc oxpfujd

fj it*

Ms* B`l`j* Yfur lfjfr# gust efr tlo s`ko fe tlo robfrd# gust sf yfu ujdorst`jd wl`t doeojd`jts

tlomsocvos l`vo dosiaj`tod ij tlis roa`rd# it!s -- ,ro`dija)7

P* Lfw mubl w`s Miblòc G`bksfjs cieo oxpobt`jby slfrtojod hy lis Fpi`to jdHojzfdi`zopijo `ddibtifjs `t tlo timo tl`t lo diod ij Gujo fe 8>>96 Fpi`tos `jd

Hojzfdi`zopijo*

@* Qocc# lo diod fe ` Hojzfdi`zopijo `jd `jostlotib fvordfso# sf tlo tlija spo`ks efr itsoce*

P* Rf Im jft skija wl`t did Miblòc G`bksfj dio fe# Im s`yija `t tlo timo tl`t lo diod#

`ssumija lo didj!t dio fj Gujo 8?tl# 8>>9# lfw mubl w`s lis cieo oxpobt`jby èeobtod hy lis

Fpifid `jd Hojzfdi`zopijo `ddibtifjs6

@* Aivos mo ` d`to àìj# pco`so6

P* Gujo 84tl# 8>>9# wl`t w`s Miblòc G`bksfjs cieo oxpobt`jby6


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@* Fj Gujo 84tl6

P* Yos* Lo diod fj Gujo 8?tl*

@* I kjfw tl`t* Tl`jk yfu# tlfual* @s ` bcijibi`j# jft st`tistibi`j# fj Gujo 84tl# I wfucd s`y

lo prfh`hcy l`d ` wook tf civo*

P* Fj M`y 0st# 8>>9# wl`t w`s Miblòc G`bksfjs cieo oxpobt`jby `s ` bcijibi`j6

@* Qloj did yfu roprosojt Bfjr`d Murr`y st`rtod aivija lim ^rfpfefc6

P* Its quostifj efr yfu* Yfu!ro cffkija `t tlo robfrd* Yfuro tlo oxport*

@* @ssumija lo is jft aottija ^rfpfefc hy M`y 0st# lo is `cro`dy aottija oxtr` hojzfij# lis cieo

oxpobt`jby is slfrtojod m`y 0st* Cot!s af h`bk tf Eohru`ry*

Ms* B`l`j* @jd tloj it afos fj* Hut it!s -- its bco`r tl`t lo!s -- tlis is jft ciko wo bùalt lim ij

` tr`p* Ie tloro!s sfmo h`sis tf hrija lim h`bk ètor wovo prosojtod tlo tostimfjy# tloj sf ho it*Hut tl`ts jft -- tloro!s jftlija imprfpor `hfut tlo w`y tlo dopfsitifj w`s ruj# tloro!s -- wo!ro

jft tryija tf put `jy `rhitr`ry cimits fj tlo `hicity tf bfujtor* Yfu kjfw# pcìjtiees! bfujsoc

kjfws wl`t tlofry fe tlo b`so tloy woro tryija tf prosojt tloj* M`yho it!s dieeorojt tl`j wl`t

tloy wfucd ciko tf put efrw`rd jfw# hut yfu b`j!t gust b`cc h`bk `j oxports tostimfjy ètor

dopfsitifj s`yija it!s sfmolfw bumuc`tivo*

Mr* Hfyco* Yfur lfjfr# lo w`s -- tlis wlfco tlija is fdd tf mo* I dfj!t -- I dfj!t kjfw ie slo

dosiaj`tod tlis p`rt# hut lo s`ys -- afos fj# (`jd ijbcudod ij yfur quostifj w`s `jd lo bfjtijuos

tf roboivo ^rfpfefc ovory jialt6(

Mr* Kfskfee7 tlis is ` dieeorojt p`rt*

Mr* Hfyco* Xialt* ,ro`dija7)


24/31

P* Ie tl`t m`kos ` dieeorojbo# wo b`j hro`k fut fjo fr tlo ftlor*

@* Ie lo!s t`kija ^rfpfefc# tlo bcfbk is tibkija*

P* Tlo bcfbk is tibkija6

@* Fl# yo`l*

P* @jd df yfu l`vo `j fpijifj `s tf wl`t Mr* G`bksfj!s cieo oxpobt`jby wfucd l`vo hooj ie lo

did jft p`ss w`y fj Gujo 8?tl# 8>>9# did jft bfjtijuo usija ^rfpfefc# hut did bfjtijuo tf uso

fpifids `jd hojzfdi`zopijos6

@* Ie -- ie lis uso fe fpi`tos is bfjtrfccod# wo!ro t`ckija sto`dy st`to dfso* Fk`y6 ^rosidojt

Kojjody did protty wocc fj ` sto`dy dfso# Xusl Cimhùal did protty wocc* @ cft fe pofpco b`j

eujbtifj*

Ms* B`l`j* Tlis w`s oxpcfrod tlfrfualcy `t tlo dopfsitifj* Ie tloy w`jt tf bfujtor witl sfmo

fe tloso tlijas tf aivo bfjtoxt tloy tlijk is joboss`ry# wo wfjt fhgobt tf tlijas witlij tlo sbfpo

fe fur dosiaj`tifjs*

Mr* Hfyco* My pfijt is it!s tlo s`mo `s protty mubl `cc tlo oxports* Lis fpijifj is Miblòc

wfucd l`vo civod eucc cieo oxpobt`jby ie lo l`d hooj tro`tod prfporcy* Tl`t!s lis fpijifj* Jfw#

lis fpijifj `csf is -- `jd I dfj!t tlijk tlo doeojd`jts wfucd disàroo witl ie Dr* Murr`y w`s

aivija lim ^rfpfefc ovory jialt; lo l`d ` slfrt cieo oxpobt`jby* I dfj!t tlijk tloir oxport is

afija tf disàroo witl tl`t wloj tloy tostiey* Tlis gust sooms tft`ccy bumuc`tivo fe ovorytlija*

Ms* B`l`j* Tf ho bco`r# yfur lfjfr# tl`t fjo wook tf civo tlija w`s jft `hfut ^rfpfefc# it w`s`hfut tlo Fpi`to `jd Hojzfdi`zopijo uso tl`t lo w s oxlihitija `t tl`t timo* Tl`t!s tlo timo

wloj los afija tf Dr* Kcoij efr up tf 2>> micciar`ms fe Domorfc# 2> timos ij ` bfupco-mfjtl

porifd* Tlis is jft `cc `hfut Dr* Murr`y* Hut# ij `jy ovojt# it!s quito bco`r erfm wl`t Mr* Hfyco

gust ro`d tlis w`s tlfrfualcy oxpcfrod `t dopfsitifj# bfujtors `ro `pprfpri`to* Ie tloro!s sfmo

h`sis tf b`cc lim h`bk ètor tl`t# bortìjcy pcìjtiees b`j m`ko tl`t roquost; hut tlis is jft


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bumuc`tivo tostimfjy ujdor tlo b`so c`w* @jd `s wo sìd# it wfucd ho# ujdor Mfjrfy `jd

H`sl`m# rovorsihco orrfr tf oxbcudo tostimfjy fe tlis sfrt*

Gudao* Did yfu Rlop`rdizo tl`t b`so6

Ms* B`l`j* Yos*

Gudao* @jd it l`sj!t hooj fvorturjod6

Ms* B`l`j*Jf*

Gudao* Tlo ro`sfj I `sk is hobùso ij brimij`c# wo -- wo wfucd jovor b`cc tlo doeojd`jts

oxport tf tostiey* I l`d ` b`so fjbo wloro tlo doeojso l`jdwritija oxport `btu`ccy àrood witl my

oxport# `jd wo gust didj!t b`cc lim* Jovor l`ppojod ij brimij`c* Hut dieeorojt sboj`rif* Tl`t!s

wly Im gust `skija did yfu Rlop`rdizo it# hobùso I kjfw it wfucd jovor l`ppoj ij brimij`c*

Ms* B`l`j* Loro!s tlo Mfjrfy b`so wlibl I prijtod c`st wook wlibl l`s tlo Qostc`w (l#( `jd

tloro!s ` yoccfw ecà fj H`sl`m hut jft roc`tod tf --

Gudao* Fk`y*

Ms* Hij`* Tloy!ro b`ccod rod rfvor oxports* It!s h`sib`ccy wloj yfur oxport s`ys sfmotlija

ujoxpobtod `jd tlo ftlor sido w`jts tf sto`c tlom* It bfmos up# it l`ppojs; jd it!s bco`r tl`t#

yfu kjfw# yfuro stubk witl tlo oxport yfu blffso* Ie yfu blffso `j oxport wlf tloj aivos `j

fpijifj tl`t is e`vfr`hco tf tlo ftlor sido# tlo ftlor sido b`j t`ko `dv`jtào fe tl`t `jd# ij e`bt#

is oxpobtod tf df tl`t*

Gudao* @cc rialt* Rubl is tlo wfrcd fe bivic* Fk`y* Qocc# `cc rialt*

Mr* Hfyco* Yfur lfjfr# Rlimocm`j -- tlis is tlo sobfjd timo jfw ij tlis b`so tl`t tlo doeojso is

efrbija us tf b`cc fjo fe fur oxports wlf wo tlfualt woro ujjoboss`ry* Dr* Hrfwj w`s tlo eirst

timo* Jfw tlis is afija tf l`ppoj àìj loro# `jd I tlijk my bfjborj jfw is tlo gury mialt

ro`d it tlo w`y tloy `ro# ij wlibl b`so wo!ro afija tf l`vo tf hrija -- wlibl is eijo# hut --


26/31

Gudao* Yfur bfjborj is tlo gury mialt ro`d --

Mr* Hfyco* Xo`d -- efr wl`tovor ro`sfj @OA Is gumpija fj tlis fjo wook tf civo tlija `s hoija

`j fvor`cc fpijifj*

Gudao* Yo l* It w`s p`rt fe Hriaas*

Mr* Hfyco* Xialt* Rf my pfijt is tf tlo oxtojt it bfmos `brfss tl`t w`y ij tlo dopfsitifj `jd

tl`t!s jft wl`t lo mo`jt# wo!ro afija tf l`vo tf hrija lim fut loro tf oxpcìj tl`t*

Gudao* _jcoss lo oxpcìjod it ij tlo dopf*

Mr* Hfyco* @pp`rojtcy jft wocc ojfual hobùso tloy koop s`yija tl`t Miblòc is afija tf dio ij

` wook* I mo`j# it is wl`t it is* Ie tlo bfurt is afija tf ruco# wo!cc gust m`ko it p`rt --

Mr* Kfskfee7 it w`s jft ro`ccy euccy oxpcfrod# yfur lfjfr# hobùso it w`s tlfualt `t tlo timo tl`t

it w`s `j feel`jd bfmmojt `jd jfhfdy ovor -- it w`s fjo cijo fut fe ` twf-d`y dopfsitifj wlibl

jfhfdy# er`jkcy# pìd `jy `ttojtifj tf ujtic suddojcy `t tlo tri`c it hob`mo tlo bojtorpiobo fe tlo

doeojso b`so# sf lo l`s tf oxpcìj it* Lo dfosj!t -- lo dfos jft -- lo dfos jft mo`j it tlo w`y ijwlibl it l`s hooj usod hy Dr* Hriaas# `jd I tlijk lo l`s tf ho `hco tf bfmo h`bk tf oxpcìj tl`t

Dr* Hriaas w`s mist`koj*

Mr* Hfyco* Mr* Hriaas*

Ms* B`l`j* Yfur lfjfr# tf ho bco`r# lo w`s dosiaj`tod `s `j oxport fj cieo oxpobt`jby# sf I

wfucd oxpobt tl`t pcìjtiees! bfujsoc wfucd ho p`yija `ttojtifj wloj lo feeorod ` jumhor fj

cieo oxpobt`jby ij lis dopfsitifj* @jd tlo eirst d`y `jd sobfjd d`y fe lis dopfsitifjs worosop`r`tod hy `hfut ` wook `jd 2#>>> micos hobùso lo b`mo fut tf B`ciefrji`# wo woroj!t `hco

tf eijisl lis dopfsitifj tlo eirst d`y# wo eijislod it ij Hfstfj ` wook c`tor# sf tloro w`s `j

fppfrtujity -- I tlijk tlis tostimfjy is ij tlo eirst p`rt fe tlo tr`jsbript* Rf tloro w`s -- tloy l`d

` wook tf cffk `t tlo tr`jsbript; jd ie tloro w`s `jytlija tloy joodod tf eix fr do`c witl fr

bco`j up# tloy bfucd l`vo do`ct witl it tlo sobfjd d`y*


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Mr* Hfyco* @aìj# tl`t!s -- wo l`d jf jood tf df tl`t# `jd wo didj!t tlijk -- tlo ro`sfj tlis w`s

jft ovoj ` bfjborj tf us# it!s ciko s`yija wl`t w`s yfur -- wl`t w`s -- sf ` trubk rujs fvor

sfmofjo ij brfssw`ck* Ql`t w`s tlo cieo oxpobt`jby fe tl`t porsfj6 Qocc# wloj tloy woro ij

tlo brfssw`ck# `hfut 08 sobfjds# rialt6 Fur -- fur wlfco b`so is tl`t @OA Is# ij p`rt# rospfjsihco

efr wl`t Dr* Murr`y did# `jd sf wloj `j oxport s`ys Miblòc l`d ` wook tf civo ujdor Dr*

Murr`y -- yfu soo wl`t Im s`yija6 @jd tloj tloy!ro tryija tf t`ko `dv`jtào fe tl`t `jd

bfjeuso tlo gury*

Gudao* Rfujds ciko ` ro`ccy affd bcfsija `raumojt*

Mr* Hfyco* Tloy slfucd ho `hco tf kjfw wl`t tlo auys ro`c fpijifj is# jft sfmo cittco 08-

mijuto bcip*

Gudao* Tloj hrija lim fj# tloj# I auoss* Hut --

Ms* B`l`j* Rf# yfur lfjfr# wo l`d ijiti`ccy t`ckod `hfut tlfso pcìjtiees! -- wo l`d dosiaj`tod

h`bk ij Gucy# I tlijk* ^cìjtiees mfvod tf oxbcudo `s bumuc`tivo fj ùaust ?tl* Gust ie wo!ro

tryija tf aot ovorytlija dfjo hy Roptomhor 5tl# I w`jt tf m`ko suro tl`t wo l`vo tlo bfujtors

h`bk erfm tlom quibkcy sf tl`t wo b`j aot ovorytlija but `jd ro`dy tf af `jd rucod fj ij frdor

tf pc`y tlis vidof fj Roptomhor 5tl* Rf -- wlibl is twf wooks w`y6 I dfj!t kjfw lfw mubl

timo tloy joodod* Tloy ijiti`ccy sìd wloj tloy eicod tlis mftifj `jd roeusod tf prfvido

bfujtors tloy fjcy joodod ` d`y* I w`jt tf aivo tlom mfro tl`j tl`t# ospobi`ccy ij cialt fe tloe`bt tl`t wo!ro d`rk efr eow d`ys* Hut ie tloy bfucd aivo us bfujtors hy R`turd`y# wo sticc l`vo

tf df fhgobtifjs tf tloir bfujtors# tl`t w`y wo bfucd eico it fj Mfjd`y*

Gudao* Rf hy R`turd`y6 I gust wfjdor lfw e`r tlis is afija tf aot -- aot yfu* Hut fk`y*

Ms* B`l`j* Rf bfujtors fj R`turd`y* @jd tloj df yfu w`jt tf do`c witl tlo U j U`cij issuo `t `

dieeorojt timo# yfur lfjfr6

Mr* Hfyco* Yfur lfjfr# m`yho --

Ms* B`l`j* @jd I bfucd `btu`ccy try tf wfrk fut sfmo fe tloso U j U cij -- I dfj!t kjfw ie it!s

pfssihco# hut tloro `ro ` cft# sf m`yho tlis is fjo wloro wo bfucd t`ko ` slft*


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Ms* B`l`j* Tloro `roj!t tff m`jy I l`vo tf `rauo# hut Im l`ppy tf df tl`t* I dfj!t kjfw ie

tloro!s ` timo# m`yho# wloj wo!ro jft afija tf ho witl tlo gury tl`t wo bfucd do`c witl `jy fpoj

issuos fj tl`t# gust hobùso ie wo!ro tryija tf aot ovorytlija dfjo ij frdor tf pc`y fj tlo 5tl# I

dfj!t w`jt tf wìt ujtic Tuosd`y* @jd I `csf dfj!t w`jt tf t`ko up gury timo* Ql`t `hfuttfmfrrfw `t 072>6

Gudao* Tl`t wfucd ho eijo*

Ms* B`l`j* Qo!vo l`d tlo rucijas efr ` cfja timo# yfur lfjfr* I dfj!t tlijk it!s afija tf -- wocc

oitlor àroo fr wo dfj!t*

Gudao* Tlo ftlor tlija yfu mialt w`jt tf df is t`ck tf -- tlis is `jftlor fptifj* Yfu mialt w`jt

tf aot -- yfu bfucd df ` tostimfji`c stipuc`tifj; ie -- ie Dr* Rlimocm`j woro b`ccod `s -- b`ccod `s `

witjoss# lo wfucd tostiey `s efccfws# `jd gust aivo ` tostimfji`c stipuc`tifj fr vidof# m`yho* I

dfjt kjfw*

Ms* B`l`j* Qo!d ciko tf df tlo vidof* Ie tloy w`jt tf t`ck `hfut sfmotlija tf bco`j up wl`t

tloy tlijk is misco`dija --

Gudao* Qocc# lo m`y l`vo tf bfmo civo*

Mr* Hfyco* Ie tloy w`jt tf b`cc fur oxport --

Ms* B`l`j* Yfur lfjfr# I tlijk fj tlo Motzaor -- I kjfw tloro w`s sfmo disbussifj fe Dr*

Motzaor wloj I w`sjt loro* Df wo l`vo ` d`to tl`t tlo fppfsitifj hrioe is hoija suhmittod fj

tl`t6 @ro tloy hrioeija fr `ro wo rostija fj `raumojt6 I ujdorst`jd tl`t yfur lfjfr oxprossod `

tojt`tivo# `jd I w`jtod tf m`ko suro wo!ro bco`r `s tf wl`ts l`ppojija witl Dr* Motzaor*

Gudao* Fj Motzaor# yos# I did issuo ` tojt`tivo tl`t sìd yfu wicc ho `ccfwod tf prosojt Motzaor

tlrfual vidof; `jd tloj `t tlo bfjbcusifj fe yfur b`so# `ccfw tlo pcìjtiees tf rofpoj tloir b`so

`jd prosojt Motzaor -- I auoss yfu w`jt tf prosojt it civo# rialt6 Rf I w`s afija tf `ccfw tlom tf

rofpoj tloir b`so ij blioe efr tl`t purpfso*


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Ms* B`l`j* Ie tloro!s ` h`sis efr `dditifj`c tostimfjy `t tl`t pfijt# I `ssumo*

Gudao* Im `ssumija tloro is* Tloyro roprosojtija tloro is* I mo`j# Im ssumija tloro is*

Ms* B`l`j* Fk`y*

Gudao* @jd tloj -- `jd tloj ie yfu l`d `jytlija yfu w`jtod tf prosojt# yfu wfucd l`vo tlo

fppfrtujity -- I wfucd ccfw yfu tf rofpoj# hobùso I dfj!t kjfw ie tloro!s sfmotlija tl`t

tloy!ro afija tf prosojt tl`t yfu m`y w`jt tf rospfjd tf# `jd tloj wo!cc af ijtf rohutt`c*

Ms* B`l`j* Rf wo!ro doeorrija tlo rofpojija p`rt efr jfw# hut wo did eico fj Mfjd`y tlo

dosiaj`tifjs `jd bfujtors# tlo eucc bl`rt* Rf it!s fur ujdorst`jdija tl`t yfur lfjfr is afija tfst`rt wfrkija fj tl`t bl`rt tf issuo rucijas* Qo!cc df tlo dopfsitifj# `jd tloj wl`tovor l`ppojs

ètor wicc l`ppoj ij tlo bfurso fe ètor doeojd`jts witjossos `ro dfjo*

Gudao* Rf pcìjtiees# yfu did df yfur fhgobtifjs `jd bfujtor dosiaj`tifjs6

Ms* B`l`j* Tlo eucc bl`rt w`s suhmittod Mfjd`y*

Gudao* Yos# I b`j wfrk fj tl`t* Hut tl`ts kijd fe lfw I s`w it*

Ms* B`l`j* Tl`t!s eijo* Rijbo I w`sj!t loro# I w`jt tf m`ko suro it w`s bco`r `jd yfur lfjfr

kjow wo eicod tlo bl`rt Mfjd`y witl ovorytlija ij it*

Ms* Hij`* @jd Mr* `jisl# erfm wl`t I rob`cc# st`tod sfmotlija tl`t lo w`sj!t suro tloy wfucd

eico `j fppfsitifj fr jft aivoj tl`t lo mialt ho `hco tf do`c witl tlo bfurt!s tojt`tivo; hut I dfj!t

kjfw ie lo fr yfu auys m`do ` eij`c dobisifj fj tl`t*

Mr* Hfyco* Jft tl`t lo tfcd mo*


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Gudao* Tlo fjcy ftlor tlija I suppfso lo bfucd `sk efr is tf rofpoj ij yfur b`so# `jd Im jft

ijbcijod tf df tl`t* I tlijk tloy slfucd ho `ccfwod tf prosojt tloir b`so euccy# `jd tloj lo b`j

rofpoj*

Ms* B`l`j* Tl`jk yfu# yfur lfjfr* Qo!cc soo yfu tfmfrrfw `t 072> fj U j U`cij# ie joboss`ry*

Gudao* Rf tlo mfst I b`j df -- I df l`vo ` dfbtfrs ppfijtmojt `t `hfut 27>> f!bcfbk* It!s bcfso

tf dfwjtfwj* Rf erfm 072> tf ciko 872>*

Ms* B`l`j* Tl`t slfucd ho pcojty efr Dr* U`j U`cij*

Mr* Hfyco* Yfur lfjfr# I `csf l`vo sfmo stuee I w`jtod tf df fj fjo fe fur eow d`ys fee lorotfmfrrfw* Ie tloro!s `jy supor rusl tf aot tloso rucijas -- wo l`vo ` twf-d`y wook joxt wook# `s

wocc* It sooms ciko wo bfucd eit tlis `raumojt ij sfmo ftlor timo ie yfuvo aft ` dfbtfr!s

`ppfijtmojt# tff*

Ms* B`l`j* I tlijk tlis is vory o`sy tf df ij ujdor `j lfur* I wfucd oxpobt ie wo woro `hco tf

bfjeor --

Gudao* Ql`t is it yfu l`d tf df6

Mr* Hfyco* Gust aojor`c cieo*

Gudao* Tocc mo `hfut it*

Ms* B`l`j* Ivo aivoj up fj tl`t# yfur lfjfr; sf Im l`ppy tf ho loro `t 072> tfmfrrfw* Qo

did gust jft w`jt tf t`ko timo `w`y erfm tlo gury* Ie Erid`y wfucd ho hottor# cot!s --

Mr* Hfyco* Rfmo d`ys wo eijisl o`rcy --

Gudao* Erid`y6


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Mr* Hfyco* Id r`tlor df it tfmfrrfw tl`j Erid`y*

Gudao* Fk`y* Tfmfrrfw* Ql`t wfucd yfu r`tlor df6

Mr* Hfyco* Lfw `hfut Tuosd`y6

Ms* B`l`j* Jf* Tuosd`y -- yfur lfjfr# my proeorojbo wfucd ho -- wo!ro jft st`rtija ujtic

0>7>> `*m* Fj Tuosd`y# sf I dfj!t w`jt tf t`ko timo `w`y erfm tlo gury* I tlijk it wicc ho ` eucc

d`y*

Gudao* I `aroo* Cot!s df it tfmfrrfw fr Erid`y* Yfur blfibo is tfmfrrfw fr Erid`y*

Ms* B`l`j* It wicc aivo yfu `j ijbojtivo tf joafti`to witl mo tfjialt*

Mr* Hfyco* Id r`tlor df it tfmfrrfw# ie tl`ts fk`y*

Gudao* Tfmfrrfw `t 072>*

,^rfboodijas `dgfurjod tf Tlursd`y# `uaust 88# 8>02# `t 072> p*m*)

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Transcripts Attorneys Arguments.Katherine Jackson V AEG Live August 21st 2013