Welcome. Association of Heritage Diesel Operators – 1 st Conference Introduction / Welcome Pip Dunn AHDO

WelcomeWelcome

Association of Heritage Association of Heritage Diesel Operators – 1Diesel Operators – 1stst

ConferenceConference

Introduction / WelcomeIntroduction / Welcome

Pip DunnPip Dunn

AHDOAHDO


ConferenceConference• 13:00 - Welcome / Introduction - Pip Dunn

• 13:10 - Mission Statement – Why / Who - Jerry Dickinson

• 13:30 - Scope, Intent & Charter – How / What - Mark Fowler

• 13:50 - Organisation Experience - Chris Nesbitt

• 14:00 - Ratification including Q & A - Jerry Dickinson

• 14.20 - Network Session

• 14:50 - Road Haulage - TBC

• 15:10 - Part Supplier / Bespoke Kit - David Brown

• 15:30 - Movement of vehicles on NR Infrastructure - Stuart Sellar

• 15:50 - UAT Database - David Russell

• 16:00 - Question & Answer Session - Pip Dunn

• 16:10 - Any Other business - Pip Dunn

• 16:20 - Closing Statement – Going Forward - Pip Dunn

• 16.30 - Close



Mission Statement – Why / Mission Statement – Why / WhoWho

Jerry DickinsonJerry Dickinson

Chairman Chairman

AHDOAHDO

WHY CREATE THE AHDO?WHY CREATE THE AHDO?

• To explore how to improve co-To explore how to improve co-ordination between Diesel Galasordination between Diesel Galas

• To provide a professional body for the To provide a professional body for the Diesel Preservation MovementDiesel Preservation Movement

• To promote the entire Diesel To promote the entire Diesel Preservation and Gala movementPreservation and Gala movement

• To create a one stop shop for peer To create a one stop shop for peer guidanceguidance

WHAT SHOULD THE AHDO WHAT SHOULD THE AHDO BE?BE?

• It should be an independent bodyIt should be an independent body

• People of many backgrounds and People of many backgrounds and with different interests form itwith different interests form it

• Respectful and tolerant of each otherRespectful and tolerant of each other

• A co-ordination association A co-ordination association

• A facilitating organisation, A facilitating organisation, particularly in terms of contactparticularly in terms of contact

WHAT OUR THE KEY TASKS?WHAT OUR THE KEY TASKS?

• To create a diary of events which can To create a diary of events which can be shared with the right peoplebe shared with the right people

• Hold a database of locomotives Hold a database of locomotives which are available for galaswhich are available for galas

• Provide guidance to gala organisersProvide guidance to gala organisers

• Facilitate contact between individualsFacilitate contact between individuals

• Promote Diesel PreservationPromote Diesel Preservation

NEXT STEPSNEXT STEPS

• Ratify the AssociationRatify the Association

• Ratify the AimsRatify the Aims

• Ratify any ProposalsRatify any Proposals

• Issue Press ReleaseIssue Press Release

• Build on this startBuild on this start

• Create WebsiteCreate Website

• Encourage networkingEncourage networking

• MembershipMembership



Scope, Intent & Charter – How / WhatScope, Intent & Charter – How / What

Mark Fowler Mark Fowler

AHDOAHDO

Think about scopeThink about scope

GovernmentHMRI ORR Host Railways

HMRI

ORR

Local Stakeholders

HMRI

Standards

Legislation

Compliance

Investigation

RAIB

Insurances

Compliance

Commercials

Legal

Standards

Services

Compliance

Materials

Collaboration

Materials

Services

Funding

Labour

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ADHO – Suggested ScopeADHO – Suggested Scope

• Maintain the community of membersMaintain the community of members

• Improve communication and collaboration between Improve communication and collaboration between owners of modern tractionowners of modern traction

• Raise the profile of common issues to external Raise the profile of common issues to external stakeholders, and seek resolutionsstakeholders, and seek resolutions

• Seek and promote best practice across the communitySeek and promote best practice across the community

• Coordinate across Modern Traction activities taking Coordinate across Modern Traction activities taking place at heritage railways to improve planning, place at heritage railways to improve planning, commercial successcommercial success

• Drive for improved value of services and materials Drive for improved value of services and materials supply through coordinated purchasing where supply through coordinated purchasing where practicablepracticable

• Increase modern traction visibility to HRAIncrease modern traction visibility to HRA

What AHDO should NOT beWhat AHDO should NOT be

• Another HRAAnother HRA

• Impacting the commercial Impacting the commercial determination of host railwaysdetermination of host railways

• Duplicate or inconsistent governance Duplicate or inconsistent governance & standards& standards

Managing AHDO affairsManaging AHDO affairs• ChairmanChairman – Figurehead and responsible for – Figurehead and responsible for

chairing meetingschairing meetings

• CommitteeCommittee – 5 acting members – responsible – 5 acting members – responsible for governance, website, facebook, driving for governance, website, facebook, driving communications, distribution lists, data communications, distribution lists, data collection, AHDO meeting scheduling and collection, AHDO meeting scheduling and information disseminationinformation dissemination

• Company, Limited by GuaranteeCompany, Limited by Guarantee– Provides a ready-made legal framework for our Provides a ready-made legal framework for our

activitiesactivities

Potential annual membership fee to cover costsPotential annual membership fee to cover costs

AHDO Value PropositionAHDO Value Proposition

• Increase modern traction visibility on Increase modern traction visibility on HRAHRA– Unique requirementsUnique requirements– StandardsStandards– Value to the movement (commercial, new blood)Value to the movement (commercial, new blood)

• Inter-owner communicationsInter-owner communications

• Easier to find locos/owners/availabilityEasier to find locos/owners/availability

• Greater leverage for services and Greater leverage for services and supplierssuppliers

You CAN get this for free, but then there is no guarantee of continuityYou CAN get this for free, but then there is no guarantee of continuity



Organisation ExperienceOrganisation Experience

Chris NesbittChris Nesbitt

Railcar AssociationRailcar Association

"...communication, co-"...communication, co-operation, preservation..."operation, preservation..."

Humble beginningsHumble beginnings

• 1969 first DMU vehicle preserved…1969 first DMU vehicle preserved…• Various other preservation developments during 1970s 80s Various other preservation developments during 1970s 80s

and early 1990sand early 1990s• Large scale withdrawals 1992 to 1994Large scale withdrawals 1992 to 1994• March 1996: Railcar Monthly bulletin March 1996: Railcar Monthly bulletin • … … June 1996 June 1996 The Railcar AssociationThe Railcar Association

– All DMU groups are invited to attend this first gathering of like-All DMU groups are invited to attend this first gathering of like-minded enthusiasts from all over Britain… minded enthusiasts from all over Britain…

– In the evening, the day will culminate in a gathering over a fish In the evening, the day will culminate in a gathering over a fish and chip supper with added beer. and chip supper with added beer.

– For this event the onus will be towards a relaxing, informal For this event the onus will be towards a relaxing, informal meeting of "DMU people". meeting of "DMU people".

– The aim is to improve communication between the many The aim is to improve communication between the many groups now existing to help the sharing of knowledge, groups now existing to help the sharing of knowledge, information, spares, etc.information, spares, etc.

EnrichmentEnrichment

• Annual “Railcar” weekendAnnual “Railcar” weekend– Driver experience on host railwayDriver experience on host railway– Guided visits to sheds and workshopsGuided visits to sheds and workshops– News and restoration round-upNews and restoration round-up– Guest speakersGuest speakers– Photo/slide showsPhoto/slide shows– Fish & Chips or barbecueFish & Chips or barbecue– ………………………….. and BEER.. and BEER

• ““Railcar of the Year” awardRailcar of the Year” award

Pay attention:Pay attention:

Wanted:Wanted:

OperationOperation

• TRA doesn’t have a membership, TRA doesn’t have a membership, constitution or officers. constitution or officers.

• We rely on the website and networking We rely on the website and networking among the groups to hold us togetheramong the groups to hold us together

• ““11stst-Gen” Yahoo email group-Gen” Yahoo email group• Vehicle databaseVehicle database• Running eventsRunning events• For sale & Wanted advertisementsFor sale & Wanted advertisements• Technical advice and restoration articlesTechnical advice and restoration articles

AchievementsAchievements

• Halon fire extinguishersHalon fire extinguishers– Worked with HSE to obtain derogation Worked with HSE to obtain derogation

• Angel TrainsAngel Trains– Secured Class 101s into preservationSecured Class 101s into preservation

• AsbestosAsbestos– Working with HSE/ORR on new legislationWorking with HSE/ORR on new legislation

• MaintenanceMaintenance– ““Model Maintenance” VMI for preserved Model Maintenance” VMI for preserved

railwaysrailways

Mutual ImprovementMutual Improvement

• Sharing of technical / operating problemsSharing of technical / operating problems• Discussion over a beerDiscussion over a beer• Telephone and emailTelephone and email• Visiting other groupsVisiting other groups• Working with suppliers over sparesWorking with suppliers over spares• And much more…. And much more…. all for freeall for free

www.railcar.co.ukwww.railcar.co.uk



Ratification including Q&A Ratification including Q&A

Jerry DickinsonJerry Dickinson

ChairmanChairman

AHDOAHDO

RATIFICATION OF RATIFICATION OF PROPOSALSPROPOSALS• Membership SubscriptionsMembership Subscriptions

• Use of surplus fundsUse of surplus funds

• Ratio of voting rights per membershipRatio of voting rights per membership

• AHDO committee shape and postsAHDO committee shape and posts



Network Network SessionSession



Road HaulageRoad Haulage



Part Supplier / Bespoke KitPart Supplier / Bespoke Kit

David BrownDavid Brown



Movement of vehicles on Network Rail Movement of vehicles on Network Rail InfrastructureInfrastructure

Stuart SellarStuart Sellar

SRPS Diesel GroupSRPS Diesel Group

What do you need?What do you need?

• Valid Ultrasonic Axle Test CertificateValid Ultrasonic Axle Test Certificate

• Valid Transit Move CertificateValid Transit Move Certificate

• Air Receiver Insurance CertificatesAir Receiver Insurance Certificates

• A TOC to do the moveA TOC to do the move

• A Network Rail path and scheduleA Network Rail path and schedule

• Enough time and money to get all these in placeEnough time and money to get all these in place

Ultrasonic Axle TestUltrasonic Axle Test

• Must be carried out by a recognised Rail Industry Must be carried out by a recognised Rail Industry Inspection CompanyInspection Company

• Normally valid for 3 yearsNormally valid for 3 years

• Ideal opportunity to check grease condition in Ideal opportunity to check grease condition in bearingsbearings

• Need to ensure axle end caps refitted correctly and Need to ensure axle end caps refitted correctly and axlebox cover joints in good conditionaxlebox cover joints in good condition

Loco InspectionLoco Inspection• Fitness To Run examination required including;Fitness To Run examination required including;

– General examination for loose, missing, damaged, detached General examination for loose, missing, damaged, detached partsparts

– Security of roof hatches and any other access doors and Security of roof hatches and any other access doors and hatcheshatches

– Condition of axle and traction motor suspension bearings (and Condition of axle and traction motor suspension bearings (and history)history)

– Brake Operation and Leakage TestBrake Operation and Leakage Test

– Air Leakage TestAir Leakage Test

Loco Inspection (more)Loco Inspection (more)

– Tyre profiles and condition of treads need to be within Tyre profiles and condition of treads need to be within Group Standard limitsGroup Standard limits

– Drawgear conditionDrawgear condition

– Air hoses in dateAir hoses in date

– External signageExternal signage

– Anything else affecting the safe movement of the locoAnything else affecting the safe movement of the loco

Loco Inspection (even more)Loco Inspection (even more)

• No unauthorised modifications should have been No unauthorised modifications should have been carried out affecting the function and carried out affecting the function and compatibility.compatibility.

• Working to a Vehicle Maintenance Instruction Working to a Vehicle Maintenance Instruction gives a better level of confidence in movements gives a better level of confidence in movements and inspections.and inspections.

• Maintenance history available for scrutinyMaintenance history available for scrutiny

CertificationCertification

• Route clearance required for the specified route Route clearance required for the specified route (weight, gauging etc)(weight, gauging etc)

• Loco details need to be set up in the Rolling Stock Loco details need to be set up in the Rolling Stock Library with ownership detailsLibrary with ownership details

• Engineering Acceptance certificate needs to be Engineering Acceptance certificate needs to be issued in plenty time to make the loco ‘live’ or it issued in plenty time to make the loco ‘live’ or it won’t be going anywherewon’t be going anywhere

RisksRisks

• Loco develops a defect and is abandoned in the Loco develops a defect and is abandoned in the middle of nowheremiddle of nowhere

• Loco picks up a major defect in the course of the Loco picks up a major defect in the course of the movemove

• TOC at risk of picking up delays and associated TOC at risk of picking up delays and associated costscosts

• Exposure to many factors out of our controlExposure to many factors out of our control



UAT DatabaseUAT Database

David RussellDavid Russell


ConferenceConferenceNumber Status Brakes UAT? TOPS ID Notes

CLASS 25

25035 UR x N

25057 OP x N25059 OP x N

25067 UR v N

25072 UR x N

25083 UR v N

25173 OP x N 89223

25185 OP x N

25191 UR x N

25235 OP x N Restricted duties

25244 SU x N

25262 OP x Y 89262



Question & Answer SessionQuestion & Answer Session



Any Other BusinessAny Other Business



Closing Statement – Going ForwardClosing Statement – Going Forward

Pip DunnPip Dunn

AHDOAHDO



If you have any comments, suggestions If you have any comments, suggestions or questions please contact the AHDO on or questions please contact the AHDO on

[email protected]

Or Or [email protected]

mailto:[email protected]

mailto:[email protected]



You are all welcome to join us for a You are all welcome to join us for a drink at the Brewery Tap, 80, drink at the Brewery Tap, 80,

Westgate.Westgate.

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