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Welcome Markos! Markos Moulitsas Zuniga Founder, dailykos.com Author of Taking on the System

Interview with Markos Moulitsas Zúniga

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Marcos Moulitsas Zúniga (@Marcos) founder of the blog DailyKos.com, and author of "Taking on the System" was our guest in our class "Using the Social Web for Social Change" in the green MBA at BGIedu. Topics include blogging, social change, occupy wall street, online communities, and political tactics.

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Page 1: Interview with Markos Moulitsas Zúniga

Welcome Markos!

Markos Moulitsas Zuniga

Founder, dailykos.com

Author of Taking on the System

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HistoryWhat was the name of your very first blog?

Anything change?What topics did you originally plan to cover

How do you cover now that you didn’t expect to cover then?

What was your original social change goal?

How did this evolve?

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Peer Bloggers

“It has been interesting reading Moulitsas' book and also reading about Han Han, one of the most famous bloggers in China, in The New Yorker. This makes me wonder about the importance of being connected to your "peer" bloggers. Is it important?…Are these two bloggers in touch? Do they keep track of each other's work to inspire their own?”

LisaCapa

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What holds people back?

Marcy Tobin

“It occurs to me that people are much more likely to participate in an online community during times of crisis.  I'm thinking about earthquakes, wildfires, floods and riots.   People participate because they have important information to share.  They do it because they want to help others and save lives.  They also participate because they have been profoundly impacted by events and want to share their experience with others.  They don't think about how their contribution will be judged, they just do it.  Question:  Is that what holds many people back from becoming contributors — the fear of being judged?  Or, is it merely an issue of time — of not wanting to commit the time to becoming a contributor?”

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All’s Fair?

“I am fascinated by the line based on Saul Alinsky's, Rules for Radicals (1971) about ‘all's fair in pursuit of pursuit of one's noble goals.’ That is a bold statement for someone like me who tends toward being process oriented, attempting to be "honest" with myself and others, and to believe and focus much more in the integrity of the journey than the destination. I understand that some information just is not helpful in some situations. But I also think that many people have different too-much-information thresholds. I would be excited to hear any more stories or thoughts about how you have navigated these waters.”

LizFeldman

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Stackholder Engagement

“There are many different ways to advocate and cause change. One of the ways that I ascribe to is to engage the stakeholders as partners, working with them in a convincing manner for them to see the value and necessity of change. This method encounters less resistance from the stakeholders and harnesses their cooperation to achieve change. What is your opinion of this method and have you used it successfully in the past? How does it contrast to an all out activism against a stakeholders lack of values or inconsistency of their actions with their values?”

AmrFouda

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Running for Office?

“Now that there are ways to get around these gatekeepers, and take on the system, why aren't we seeing more candidates running for office?”

ErichSachs

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Diversity

“Since it seems that the social media via the web reaches only those who are looking for it (and/or have access), what ideas do you have in getting a more diverse chorus involved in the symphony of social change?”

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Other Mediums of Expression

“Do you like to/are you comfortable speaking in front of large groups? Your blog and book have a wide reach. Are there other mediums you work in to get your message out?”

Chantel Bunkers

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Full Potential

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“Social media is such a powerful mechanism: in what ways do you think it is not reaching its full potential and why?”

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The New Gatekeepers

“In light of the blogosphere and other social media working outside of the traditional gatekeepers of newspaper editors and radio/TV program directors, in what ways do you see navigating around the NEW gatekeepers: ISPs, large telecoms, and governmental agencies (FCC, etc.)? My example is on Facebook there have been many people posting pictures of the throngs in NY and other cities for occupy wall st. that are now being blocked by FB...tenaciously, people have changed the filename and added text to the image to get around these blocks, but as pattern/visual recognition technology improves, how will we be able to get around more complex, technological gates as they are erected by the new gatekeepers?”

PatrickRost

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Stalled Change

“Taking On the System speaks with a voice of hope, telling stories where Netroots have affected great change. However, in the last two years (with the exception of what is now happening with Occupy Wall Street) it seems the change has stalled (Obama's reelection in doubt, lack of progress on a progressive agenda, etc.) and perhaps we need a booster. What do you feel has changed since 2007-2008 to now?”

MikeGreenberg

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Crafting Stories

Marcy Tobin

“I read your recent blog post ‘My list of absolute demands for Occupy Wall Street’. I found it very entertaining and provocative. In your book, Taking on the System, you encourage people to ‘craft good stories in order to vest people in the causes we care about.’ People want to know what the Occupy Wall Street story is. If the Occupy Wall Streeters don't craft this story won't the media craft it for them?”

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Speak With One Voice

RyanCeurvost

“You devote Chapter 4 to "Reinvent the Street Protest." I'd be curious to get a general overview of your thoughts around the Occupy Wall Street Movement and to see what, if anything, you would rewrite in this chapter given the movement's current progress (or lack thereof, given your perspective) Particularly, the idea of "speak with one voice.”

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Protest Tactics

“In the book you talk about street protests as an outdated or even obsolete tool for capturing media attention and creating social change. …

The past couple of weeks have been dominated by news of Occupy Wall Street and the Tar Sands Action in D.C. How do you view their uses of the protest tactic? Do you have advice, or perhaps an observation about what they are doing that might stop them from being rendered obsolete or ineffective?  How can organizers manage the tension between the huge numbers they need to show to earn credibility, and the seemingly inevitable messiness that goes with opening the process to a lot of people in public and in real-time? Is there a workable answer to this challenge?”

TamaraGordy

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Protest Tactics“I’ve been considering correlations between Taking on the System and Occupy Wall Street. So, allow me a moment to lay out my train of thought in hopes that you might discuss the threads.

The lessons learned from Cindy Sheehan were: Don’t believe the hype, work within your niche. and don’t get caught up in other ideological causes. Another seems to be: Score political points in the media with simple, albeit emotional, target shooting. Example: Cindy should have stuck with “For what noble cause did my son die?”

These lessons strike me as both practical AND short-term, over-simplified. They pertain to election cycles and legislative campaigns but DO THEY APPLY TO PARADIGM SHIFTS? The purpose of Occupy Wall Street is to question and change the system, which is greater than the sum of any list of demands.

HOW CAN WE IMPLEMENT SYSTEMS THINKING IN THIS CONTEXT? ... seeing the forest AND the trees; identifying unconstrained feedback loops, unrecognized time delays, and confining mental models? In politics, IS IT POSSIBLE AND PRACTICAL TO THINK HOLISTICALLY AND LONG-TERM?”

Tom Long

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