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AS PARlo r Tllr I N ~ R Y INTO THE WlRrrAI fROJFCT
MiD !HF RFKWAl OF RFCORDS THF G R A ~ D JURY IS
ALSO I ~ V F S T I G A t I N G POSSIBLE Ff.RJURY BY
L. UTRICK GRAY DI'RJt\G HIS COf';FIR1-!ATION HFARINGSJJI,: LATE FeBRUARY AAD FARlY ~ A R O i , 1973, Jt.l:rroHF DENIED t:r;OWLEOOE OF Sl:Cl! AJI; Fl FCTROOICS U R V F J L l ~ C E FROJ[CT.
TIfF FOCl'S OF THIS INVESTIGATION IS ON THE11M_ PERIOD OF !H E WEEKS BEFORE MR . GRAY"SHEAR I NGS AND TIlE EARLY PORTIOJl,: OF nlE HEARn.;cs
THEMSELVES - lHAT IS , THE LAST T""O WEEKS OFFEBRnARY, 1973.
BFFORE WE Grr TO THOSE DIRECT Q U F S T I ~ S HO"'''FVER.THERE" IS or.T ~ : A T T E R ABOUT ""UCH I WANT TO ASK YOU AFFW Qll[STJQ";'S RElEVANT TO THE GRAY
I ~ V [ S T I G A T I ~ . E t E C T R ~ I C SURVEIlLANCE FROJFCT DECEMBER,
~ l i 9 7 ~ ' l l ' ~ A i N ~ D ~ T ~ F ~ " ' 1 : i I N ~ A ~ T ~ F ~ D ] ; ' ~ f [ ~ ' ~ < ~ ~ ~ : ~ : ~ ; i ~ W * b ~ ~ s TARTED AS AESULT II
DO YOU RECALL THE CQtoli'lENm ENT o r THIS
PROJECT?
DO YOU RECALL THAT IT WAS HANDLED BY
!'R . [HRLlCHMAN AND, Uf\OER HIt ' , hR . YOlmG ,AND THAT THEIR PRHIARY LIAISOO WAS
!'ARK FELT , AT TH E FBI?
FERIOD • I
00 YOU RECALL WHETHER THERE WERE ANY
BRIFFINGS OR DISCUSSIOOS or MR . n [ J ~ D I E N S T CONCERNING THIS PROJECT - " ' ~ I C H WAS , orCOURSE, Q.1ITE SENSITIVE?
C ~ l R A R I W I S [ 00 YOU RECALL THAT TilEREWAS DECISIOf\ NOT TO BRIEF ~ R . ~ L E l N D N S T ABOUT THIS FROJECT?
00 YOU HAVE ANY OOUBT THAT R.
KNEW A8OUl' THE PROJECT?
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KLEINDIENST
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STILL WITH REFERENCE to,,- ,": : :_,, _ ,ME DIREct ~ ~ " ~ = ' - _
- 1 W o , ~ ~ ! f n 1 H . ~ 00 YOU RECALL "'llaHER tHERF WERE ANY
BRIEFINGS OR DISCUSSlOOS WItH HR. GRAYc O N ~ I ~ G THIS PROJBCT - WHICH WAS StILL
B E I ~ G CARRIED ON?
00 YO!! HAVE At.y DOIlBT THAT "'R . GRAY KNEW
ABOIlI THE PROJECT?
WHAT DO YOU BASE THAT OPINION ON?
~ " ' ( U ' ) I r WIIH REFERENCE to tH E RADFORD FROJECT,I WANT TO DIRECT YOUR ATtENTION TO THE FFRJODo r ~ 1 D - J U N E , 1972. NOW , THAt OF COURSE .A SWHEN THE WATERGATE B R E A K - I ~ OCCURRED BUT , AT
ABOUT THAT VFRY SM-:E TIl-[ mE SUrRD-:r-COURtDECIDED THE SO_CAllED KlETII DECISION I<I'IUCH
StRUCK ODiN THE POLICY OF WARRANT · lESS NATIONALSECURITY lHREtARFS IN l)()MESTIC SItuATIQXS 1<11iFRE
"ItiERE WAS NO SHOWING OF A SUBStANTIA l t IE Wl'IlI
FORFIGN FARtIES.MW, AS A RFSlIlT OF !HAt DfCISION THE
se l D I S C ~ L I N U E D A CERTAIN NUMBER or TAFSTHAT THrY IHEN HAD IN PLACE. ONE OF THESEWAS THE C O N T I ~ ~ I N G TAP ON ~ f f i RADFORD.
DO YOU RECALL ANY CONVERSATIONSE R K S l ~ S N G OF TIlE ELECTRONIC S U R V E I L l A ~ C E II- - OF THE F BI HAD TO BE DIS . CtJUINCE.D
I N VIEW OF THE KIElH DECISION? -
t-10RF SPECIFICALLY, 00 1'011 RECALL ANY
IDISCUSSIOOS Hi l<I'HlOi tH E RADfORD TA r WAS
, ARGUFD TO BE DTSIINGlJISHABIf r ROM THE' OTHFR
TAPS AND, THEREFORE , ~ O T W I t H l ~ THE Cot-',FASS
OF THE S U P R ~ E COURT DECISION?
IN Ar\Y EVTh'T . DO YOO RECALL DISCUSSIl\GITH Al\Y0JI,'E, rIIHER MR. E H R L J C ~ A N . OR FFRHAFS
MR . rLFINDID<ST OR ~ ' R GRAY ntE FACT TIiAT THERADFORD PROJECT HAD TO BF D J S C ~ ' T I N ~ F D BY
BY VIRTUE or K1JTH?
TIlAT THIS ,",'AS fREl"ATIJRE?
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l\OW, I WAf'I''T TO SUF AHEAD IN T I " ~ E TO THF I"OREDIRECTLY RELEVMi PERIOD OF TWE - lEADIl\G UF TO ,"'R . GRAY"SNOHNATION. or; ITBRUi\RY 14, 1913, YOU HAD A !-'EFfING
WITH I'R . EHRLIOiJoAl' WHICH COl\CERNED YOUR TIiROOGHTS
AS TO WHETHrn loR. GRAY WOULD BE THE B E S T _ ~ ~ ! R : i ~ ; ' ~ i ' l i ~ ..POSlTI(\l\. ""r SUFFLIED WITH
THAT IT
~ 1 1 ( , / ) j t 'n\ D'D DAYS lATER, YOO mn HL n ~ l J c ! \ t ' A N
~ E E 1 I-;!fll I>R. GRAY FOR YOl" If ' nISCI'SS hIS IH·"JNFl\Tl"OQl"AlION 1'1 1. J I I ~ . Yfll' BFGH If-A HF l JI\G _ ,.
1R,AJ\SCRIF'T nF 'l!IC:, ''F !!AVF i\GAlf' BFFI" 51 FflIFD "IlI1PY YOI'R A1TOR1'FYS - BY MYrlr-:G FOR foR. GRAY lhAl Ynl
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F"ORFSA, T , : SI'BSum 1'1 1 P R O B ~ S WHJOI COOLO SF RAISED
AT HIS I ~ A R ] ~ S S . ONE OF IbrSF WAS;9jFSTJONS ABOUTt < A I ~ A T E . TH SFCot\O WAS ouES1'iffis BOW wIREiAFf]l\G}-ClLI FS.
NOW , CAl' XOO TFU li S J:lI::« XQJ! AT FMniIl..YBFLIMO THAT rilE .... IRF.:tAF IS5t;E TlD BEA CONTROVERSIAL GNF AT ~ R . GRAY 'S ~ E A R I N G S ?
1\'1.5 ANY PART OF YOUR CMCERr...: YOUR Bfl IF j ,VTHAT GRAY Wct'LD BE QUESTIOKED ABOur CHEN A T I ~ A L SECURITY TAPS AND/OR THE RADFORDPROJECT?
NOW , CONTINUING WITH tHAT FF8RUARY 16, 1973,"'FETING WlnI GRAY _fiERE YOU DISCUSS HIS NOl':INATlOO 11iEREARE SEVERAL OTHER Cot-""Th-rs !-ADE nlERE WHICH I WISH TO
ASK YOU ABCtn' .
FBI
FIRST, THE TRANSCRIPT INDICATES THATn'FHASTZED TO GRAy yOl IR CDNCERN WITH IHF
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FACT THAT WERE HAD U ib' So hAt . ly J fAbS FROt:'tI.l£.....U1 _ PARTIC!!I ART Y TO rUlE.
_ YOU SFF1'lD ALOT or--ntr or...: n i lS
_ YOU DIRECT THAT LlE_DETECTORTESTS BE GIVEN I Ir...:CLUDThG ON MR¥ FFLI
00 you RECALL fl'FhASIZlr...:G YOUR C ~ C E R N \'o'lW
LEAkS TO GRAY?
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FBI AT TH EELEC!RONIC
NFWsrAFEJUo'FN ANDWHITE HOUSE STAFFFRS .ALSO BEeAI-!E KNOWN TO YOU THAT IN THIS STORY TIME WASHANNING IT WAS GOING TO INDJCATF tHAT MR. HOOVl"R HADTHREATENED TO DISCLOSE THE WIRETAP RECORDS AND INDICATrALSO THAT GRAY KNEW ABOUT THE WIRETAPS DB HAD SOMERESPONSIBILITY FOR THFM.
ljQW . !HE W H I I ~ H O U S E BECAME AWARE OF TIMF ' SIHa"I1ot<S BOlH BY KLEINDI sf HElNe ASkFb FOR HIS- C O " ~ £ N I S - IT WAS ALLEGED THAT HE WAS tHE ONEWH O HOOVER tHREATENED IN REGARD TO DISCLOSURE OF THE RECCRDS I
AND BY THE WHITE HOUSE BEING ASKED FOR ITS RESPONSE .DERN AND l1R. EHRLla-n'AN HANDLED THE WHITE HOUSE RESPONSE _"''HIeH WAS A FlAT DENIAL ALSO, AT THE SM'E TIME , THAtDEAN WAS TALKING WITH BiRLIOII>'.AN ABOUI PUI'TING our ARESPC1\SE TO THE STORY DEAN WAS CHECKING INTO hliO " ~ I G H T HAVE LEAKED THE STORY _ AND HE SPOKE WIlli ,"'R. FELT M' O
, , ~ . SULLIVAN IN 1H I S REGARD .
NOW THE stemy WAS AClJ!Al ' Y PUBL1SH[D ON
1/EEl'RUARY 26 . 1973 . BUT I WANT TO FIRST FOCUS yOU ON IAlsPRF_ fUBLlCA1ION PFRIOD.
DO YOU RECALL DISCUSSI(1oiS ABOUT U}>IE ' SPLAN TO PUBLISH A STORY?
WITH DEAN OR WITH I'LEINDIFNST?
PERHAPS IT UGHT HELPS TO REFRESH YOURCOLLECTION mAT ON TIlE WEEKEND ll'.MEDIATELY PR ECEDING
THE PUBLICATION OF THE STORY - BUT AFiER THF WHITEHOUSE, TIlROOOH MR . DEftN AND [HRLlCHf.'AN HAD AUTHORIZEDA DENIAL - YOU WERE AT CAI-'P DAVID AND "iR . EJiRLI<:mIANWAS THERE AS WELL. NOW IT APPEARS THAT YOU DID
THEN DISCUSS THE "'ATT£R WITH "'.E. DiRLlCHfo:AN BECAUSENarES o r A CONVERSATION YOU HAVE WIn! "'-R . HALDD!ANON nus SUBJECT QUar[ YOU AS SAYING ThF FOLLOWING .
' - --- )-TAUE'D IO E'HRLIOll-'AN RF T!J-'.E ' S LASTJ
nUNG ON FBI SUFF. HAD NAl-'ES OF BRANOONAND SAFIRE . E h R ~ I ~ A N TOLD ZIEGLAR
JUST STONEWALL IT .
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f DO YOU RECALL THIS Cct-iVERSATIONWITH EHRUc:ID<AN - APPARENTLY FOCUSED
DIRECTLY UPON WHAT TItoLE HAD AND WHATTIlF WHITE hOUSE MAS R[SPOO'Dlt-;G?
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00 YOU RECALL ~ i E A R I M S ('ft DJSCIJSSIt\G{'!Ti ANYOtiF TIlAT Tn E .11..0 rUE t\ANES OF
loR. BRANOON AND ~ R : " S ' A F I R E AS ·r,'o SI'BJECTS(IF THE TATS?
IN THAt REGARD . DO YOU RECALL ANY
FRF- Fl'Bl rCATIOt\ DJSCI1SSJON OR srrC!'lATI0NCm;CFRNING WI - FT FR THT FlANNFO TA !'SFT OSF rARTICPLAR NAfJ'S'?
1/00 YI) U RFCAll M"Y I)]SC"SSl' 'S en : C F l ~ , " J I \ G
n fR 1 £ WHITE HOUSE SHOULD ACKl\OWl.[OOE
THE PROGRAM? HhJ . . J " ' ~ ""..,PlF,r-- 4 N ~ If; $ ' ~ i k J ~ 7 # S # t R r ~ /)1I e . t J ( ' l _ " : Y ! l O U l ! L . I I l ; ; E L l I U ! j , j! S W ; W l . : YW T J : H U ; E ~ S i i : I I ; ! Q 2 1 R ! ! Y ~ W A ! ! : S ~ II l f
- / , JSe ( l r @_TR[ YOU CONSULTED ON THIS?
NOW , ON THAT WEEK-END WHEN YOU ARE AT CAfo'P DAVID ANDA P P A R ~ T L Y HAVE THAT CCliVFRSAXIQN " '1m EHRLIOOlAN , HR.GRAY IS IN FLORIDA RESTING AND PRERIRING FOR HISCONF1RNATION HEARINGS -wltICH ARE to START IN SEVERALDAYS.
IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THESE ALLEGATIQKS OF WIREe TAPPINGWILL FROBABLY BE RAISED AT HIS HEARINGS . -
hNOW , CAN YOU TELL US • BEARING IN MIN
IHE It-'MINEl\CE OF HIS HFARINGS , At-.'D YOUR PREVIOUSLYEXPRESSED CONCERNS TO GRAY ABOUT LEAI<SFRO!>I THE FBI AND mE NECESSITY FOR HIM TOHAVE TO DD';Y CERTAIN FACTS, WHETHER YOU CALOOHI M . OR SFOJ<E WlTH HIl- BY TELEPHONE _ COM::FRNINGTHIS HArrER?
I I OR DIRECTIl\G THAT SOMEONE ELSE - PERHAPS1/ !>fR. EHRLICHto'.AN OR MR. fLEINDIENST _ CALL GRAY?
f DO YOU RECALL BEIM CXl\CERNED THAT , UNLESS/, OTHERt.'ISE DIRECTED, ¥R . GRAY M.IGHT AI:»- IT THAIII THE A l L E G A n ~ s WERE SUBSTANTIALLY TRUE?
I NOW , LATER THE NE XT Ir.'EEK , MR . DEAN
TELLS YOU THAT ~ R . GRAY WILL BE " S T O N E W A L L J N G ~ THF STORY , BUT DO YDU RECALL HEARING THISFIRSt FR()loI MR. EHRLICHMAN'l OR MR . GRAY?
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WHITE G 6 6 ; r l l ! l : ~ Q n M k ~ 4 r n n - N ¥ t \ ) ; F ~ b t s p i < o K ~ ~ h ~ " " t _ r"DISCUSSED THE l-;ATIER WITH l-iR . EHRLICHl-'AN - AND FERHAFS
OTHERS THAT WEEKEND .
l.._ _ .,o.."",,,,,.-.. IN THE COL'RSE OF A COr-.VERSATICN
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ; ~ ~ ~ ~ , ~ ~ ~ I : o ~ I T : ~ ' TIIr WfE}:F1\D
SURYEIll..M\CE
"OF COl'RSr. liEAND SAY NOTHING10)
ARE YOU THERE REFERRING TO C ~ V F R S A T I o r - . S OVER TIlE \.iEE¥ - END _ OR , BEFORE , AS TO TIlt:INITIAL DEC I S I ON TO DENY THE T I ~ E STORY?
OR , ARE YOU REFERR I NG TO SOl- E£" FAR lIEROCCASION WHEN SIl-llLAR ALLEGATlOl\S HAD BEENRAISED?
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NOW, ON SUNDAY YOU HAD THE TEU'PHONE CONVERSATION WIlliI>'R . H A D D ~ A N TO WHICH I HAVE ALLUDED AND Ir." WHICH YOU
TElL HIf.' ABOUT YOUR Ccr;VFRSATIQN WIlli MR. FHRLICffi.'AN.t-'R . HAlDfloIAN ' S NOTES ALSO INDICATE WE FOLLOWING,
"EVERYTHING HANDLED BY DEAN, HEINDIlNStETC .. .
00 YOU RECALL ' 2 L~ i A T IT WAS THAT HAD TO BE A N D L E D
THE FRESS RESPQNSF?
HOW ABatrr FREPARING GRAY ' S TESTn,ONY?
~ ~ O ELSE WAS IT, BESIDES DEANAND KLElt;'DIENST . 11'110 WAS TO 00 THE IHANDL ING? YR. RICHARD t-OORE? I
THE NOTES ALSO INDICATE ,
.. .E (DlRllClft.iAN) AND I STAY OCT OF IT"
t.'HY?-aEBRUARY 26 , 1973, thF ARIIClE IISLFr OUT .
DO YOU. REGAl I IT? -
II!DQ xm! RECAIT crnrobSATTm.:S AT WAT II"EVT 1\ TIl-:r H.4,Q f:jOI FIISIISHED TIlE NAt FS
1Y S . " SFFCIFICALlY THEf','Al'ES OF BRMroN AND SAF RE.
DC YOC RECAll HOW Il l"r HAD GOTIaITS FACTS ' .RCl\G AND t.1iETHER THERF "'AS At,YDISCL'SSION CF Wl!ITHER THIS ~ L ' l D t - ~ r E IT£A.sIER TO DEl>Y ThE STORY?
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6OW , ON FEBRDllRY il 7 , 1973, YOU HAD A FAIRLY I.ENU.YHFrIl\G WITll t';R. DrAA IN THF A F ' H ] U ~ . WE' HAVE THETRANSCRIrT OF THAT t-iEITIr-G AND I WANT 'f 0 ADDRESS SEVFRAlQUESIIor-;S . 0 YOU WHIOi ARISE FROM IT . BUT , BEFORE I DO1FT !-IF NOTE THAT THERE IS SUBSIANTIAL DISCUSSION ThENABOtn' SEVERAL SUBJECTS WITH WHICrl I At- NOT IIFRE CONCFRNFD -1HUS , IN WHAT I BELIEVE WAS YOUR FIRST t-EETING ALONE
WITh ,.,R. DEAN OF ANY SUBSTANCE , T1IERE \>JAS A FAIR At-OUNT
OF C(MIFRSATlON ABOtrr THE ERVIN oot-.t-nUEF AND QUESTIONS
ABOUT EXECUTIVE PRIVELEGE.
BUT, THEN WERE IS A SUBSTAI\TIAl At-IOUNT OF
OOOVtRSATION ALSO ABOUT THE FBI , THE DfllOCRATS" NISUSEOR. ABIiSF or I t , AND THEN THE QUESTIOOS or LEAt::S .
"OST IHORTAA'T tlERF WAS THE roUOWn-iG DIA10GtFl
DEAN I THE WAY IS ' S POSTURED NOW , US, "'''FCAN STONEWALL IT , Ali, GRAY GO urTHERF IN HIS COr-.TIR"·ATICN hEARIMS
AND HE ' S NOT GO"NA HAVE TO BOTHER ,",'ITIlIT, BFCAUSE THEY ' D ACCUSED HI" IN THETHE ARTlCU OF BEIl\'G . SIrrHiG or.; TOF orTHE BUGS •••
PRESIDENT •• • YEAHDEAN . • •• IT WAS lliERE Ql\CF tiE CAt-:F . IN ,
P R i ' ! l I \ i M ~ l I h [ ~ q l l t h WERFN " ANYDEAt\ ••• H_lIi'A ThERE WERE NONE THERE ,",liEN
HE CAl- rII\ •P R E S I D ~ ' T • WELL, THREE YEARS AGO TI-IAT
Th I S HAPPENED .DEAN •••• THAT · S RIGHT .FRFSIon.-! • • • • AND THERF HASN ' T BEEN A
GOD-IJAI.'.NED rHING Sn.:CE."
!ECALL TH IS CONVERSATION?
r leA LL ANY c a l \ ~ F R S A T I O N ABOUT HOW GRAY WAS
PI.AN?\u\G TO "STONE . WALl" TH I S MITER?
f ECALL ANY CONVERSATION ABOOt HOW GRAY COUlDS!C1\F- WA LL THE STORY • T H A t C O U L D TEsrIFY
TRUTHF1lLLY • IN A LITERAL SENSE · THAT THEREfm"fLY WERE NOT ANY RECORDS OF THE FR08ECT?
f DO YOU RECALL I>N{ OOh'VER1lTlON 1N t.'HICH GRAY ' SPLANNED STRATEGY OF TESTIMONY ,",'AS DISCUSSED AND
IT WAS OPINED tHAt hE WOOLD HAVE DIF FICULTY
BECAUSE tHE Ca-"MITIEE _ WI TH VERY PAQ'ISANDEl'!OCRATS - WOtn..D PRESS
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NOW. THERE ARE TIm OTHER r-lATIFRS DISCUSSED BF'IWEEN
YOURSELF' Al':D fo'.R. DEAN WRING THIS SAMF COr.VERSAlION WHICH
ARE RELEVANT HERE.
~ ~ D E A N ~ G O O D NOW, 00 YOU RECALL DISCUSSIN:IDlRE PARTICULAR
ONES WITH . DEAN?
00 YOU RECALL DISCUSS:WG WITH AlfiONF ELSF -A., . ABOUT- TI.IS POll\'T T n E - THESE PARTICULARSUruECI'S _ FRa- TIlE STAND-POINT THAT THEY
it.'ER£ PEOPLE h'HO R E A S ~ B L Y SHOOLD HAVE BEEN
SUBJECTED TO SURVEILLANCE?
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O YOll RECALL, DISCUSSING FROt-', THE SAI-'EPOINT OF VIEW ANY OF THE SUBJECTS OF THE
SURYEILL4.NCF, WHO FERHAPS WFRE NOT AS
RFASOOABLE TO TAP FOR FOREIGN FOLICY REAS(t;S?
II SAFJRF?
I{ SEARS?
h1
it' YH£WAY DID YOU CONSIDER THAT THE
E'LECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE WAS ALL ONE FROJECTSO TO SPEAK - I ~ C L U D I N G NOT ONLY THE
NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL PEorLE - BUT
THESE WHITE HOUSE STAFFERS?
DID YOU EVER DIRECT ANYONE ELSE TO BRIEFSRAY ABOUT THE PROJECT FROM TIlE STAND- POINTOF USING CERTAIN OF THE SUBJECTS SUCH AS
BRANDON AS E X ~ P L E S TO JUSTIFY THE fROJECI?
II BUT AT THE SAME TIH NOT INEORI= Ir:G G ~ Y 1/ OF. OTHFR SUBJFCTS - SU.,CH AS JAr-"IE t'CLAJliF.
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TIlE SECClf';D f.iATIER DISCUSSED oti FEBRUARY27TH t'ITH DEAN WAS THE QUESTIct\' OF WHO THE SOURCE OF
TilE LEAK WAS - lI'lTH SHeIFIC REFEREl'CE TO H . FELT ANDfoR. Sl'LLIVAN AS POSSIBILITIES.
OlD xml DIRECT AID' SrFCIFIC INYFSTIGATICfI<OF 1IH0 THE LEAt:: WAS?
DI 0 YO!! HEAR t HAT ANY Ir..'VFSIIGAlION
HAD ~ t E N OONf?
OlD 'lOU IlEAR THAI GRAY HAD RECF'IVFDREFORTS INDIQT1NG h ~ O HAD ACCESS TO IHFSFPROJECTS AND ' ~ E R E TIlE RrCORns OF rHFPROJECTS ~ T R E • THAT lHESE REPORTS HAD
BEEN GlVTh BY GRAY 10 . KLEI!\DIEl'>SI OR
TO EHRLICl-IMAA?
,I WANT TO SHOW YOIl S['Ctl A REPORT .
OlD YOU EVER SEE ThIS OR
ANYTHING SUBSTAhl!ALLY S 1 ~ I L A R ?
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! ~ " ~ ~ eii ~ ~ A " X 28 IODYOI! "AlIE ANQlJiElij;;;;rc iiiIihJJiK Hi flAK. HERf AGSINUQi OF Y(XJR CctNERSATION CONCERNED "'ATIERS t\01 OF RELEVANCE
TO THIS INVESTIGATION. sum AS THE ERVIN C(1}iITIEEE AND
TIlE WATERGAT[ CASE. AGAIN, HOWEVER THERE ARE REFERENCES)TO THE WIRFTAP ISSUE, THE Tll1F ARTICLE, AND TO ,,:rSSRS. ,tJfSULLIIAN AND FELT. { l ; ' ~ r
WITHOUT REPEAUr-;C THIS ~ , A T E R I A L . I WILL NOTE' 'f1I ( ~ ' S ONLY THAT DEAN INDICATED FIRST - WITH REFERENCE to GRAY'S v AAi1TESTII-'ONY - AND THE CONFIRl-!ATlOO HEARINGS WERE TO START ThAT (lehflll'DAY THAT GRAY ~ I S VERY COOFORTABLE IN ALL OF THECEeIS-IONS hE HAS "'ADE AND I THINJ( HE ' ll BE GOOD ' . AND THEN(p . 15). AND THffi. TIlAT "THIS CURRENT TH'r l'.AGAZllNE STORY;,lHCH WE' ARE STOH_WAlLING TOTALLY." PRESIDENT _ "ABSOltrrFLY"
1/NOW, DO YOU RECALL KNOWING THAT GRAY JI
;"A5 GOII\G TO LIE - IF l\EC[SSARY. eN rtD sISSUE, AT HIS H E A R l ~ G S .
ON MARCH i , 1973 , KENNEDY ASKS GRAY ABOUT THISMTr[R MD VIRTIJAlLY CROSS - EXAt-'INFS HIl-' I GRAY DOESSCJloiE· WAll IN ThE SENSE THAT HE PARRIES ALL QUESTIONSBY INDICATIl\C Tl-'.AT HE HAD HAD THE RECORDS SEARCHED ARD
THERE WERE M RECORDS OF THE PROJECT .
ti!RE YOU TOLD ABOUT HIS T £ S T I ~ O N Y ? HIS TESTIMONY IN THIS REGARD REVIFWFD?
WAS THERE M\y DISCUSSION OR SPFCIJLATION AS
TO 1\'HFrHFR JrEBNEDY ""'OtlLD PROBF F1JRTHFR _'PERHAPS RAISING THE NAl-'ES OF THE SltBJFCI'S?
WAS THFR£ ANY DISCHSSION OR srrCllLATJON
AS TO lI'HFTHER T IH IfOULD FRESS THE~ l A T f E R Ft.JRIH[R?- -
hfJ'( MUlR ax ItBi'!S @fil:iB L{IiLK £GO ..fell 'Fe I ;lEtor?
WILL AS¥ THE GRAND JURY IF THEY HAVE'
ADDITICtiAl QUESTI(l;Si
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Chronology o f Events - - Gray Per j u ry
December 18, 1971 : Anderson publiohes the Indin-Pakistan
leak .
December 20, 1971 : l1 i tchel l meets with !·tardion, Kleindiens t ,
an d Young re Radford .
December 22, 1971: Mitche l l meet!; ~ I i t h Fe l t , probably re
Radford.
May 2, 1972: Hoover dies a nd Gray i s appointed .
May J , 1972: Gray meets with Nixon , Haldeman, Ehrlichman
and Kl eindienst . Notes and memoranda indicatoR tha t
June
June
June
June
there i s only a geneJ;:al discussion during this meeting
nn d tha t af ter the moeting. Gray's appointment i s
announced.
17, 1972 : l ~ a t e r 9 a t e break- in19, 1972: l<ieth dec i s ion
20 , 1972 : Radford taps ended . Ehrlichman ~ ~ e t s with
Nixon not Watergate-related . Haldeman meets with
Nixon 18 1(2 minute gap tape.
21, 1972 : Gray meets with Fel t , Kunkel , Bates ,.l iatergate theories including "leak theory.'I
October, 1972 : High volume of l e a k ~ m o ~ t l y with regard to
o ; c . ~ ..... •C T ~ ~ t nod Fel t i s considered as possible source.
Mid-December , 1972 : o o d w a r d and Bernstein stOl::Y re
aecl::et Hunt phone bil led to Kathy Chanow.
- January 8-9, 1973 : Krogh confirmation hearingfl and Sutcl i f fe
""-nquiry to Gray concerning wiretaps eo the Plumbers .
According to Krogh , Gray spoke to Erhlichman about
th i s inquiry . Also, Haldeman notcs of January 8 ,
1973, indicate decision not to nominate Gray as permanent
Director .
February 14 , 1973: Nixon r.eets with F.hrlichman and
discusses Gray ' s nomination. Di!:leusf>ioll basical ly
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centerson Watergate and Ehrliclunan
notestha t
he nnd Dean gave the lIunt f i les to Gray and tha t
Gray wil l never t es t i fy to those events. There
i s also a discussion o f Hitche l l nnd Magruder perjury
and a di scuss ion o f t h a t day ' s NOQdwnrd and Berns te in
s tory concerning t l i retap informatiol l being given
to the Plumbers . ~ I i t h regard to tha t s tory , Ehrlichrnan
s ta tes tha t only Haldeman and he received any of tha t
"domestic tap s tu f f." There i s also a discussion of
Young, but it does not seem c lear tha t Young received,0
wiretap material fa r as the matter is discussed
in th is meeting .
February 15 , 1973 , Nixon again meets with Ehrlichman and
l : . ~ .ft-r th ' •..........-... .... '" r.,eeting Ehrlichman ca l l s Gray and
t e l l s him to be a t the \ ~ i t e House to meet with the
President the following morning .
February 16, 1973 : Niy.on meets with Gray an<l Ehrlichrum.
Major points in th i s discussion are Gray's health,
how Gray wil l handle questions on I ~ a t c r g a t e , tha tGray should not be defensive about wiretapping,
tha t there E a need for a direc t relat ionship between
the President and the Director , nnd tha t i f Nixon
ins t ruc ts Gray to do something, Gray should la te r be
prepared to go out and deny on a stack of Bibles
thnt it ever occurred , tha t ~ m n g a z i n c has been
Bureau and tha t the t r a i l leads to !lark FeU- ' I and
then there is also a br ie f exchange when Nixon asks
Gray ' s opinion of Sullivan and Sullivan says tha t he
is against Gray get t ing back into the 8ureau. r After
the meeting Gray ' s nomination is announced.
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Februa ry 22 , 1973: Kleindienst has lunch with Dean
Fi!:hcr and lJayes Gorey and i s informed of th e
magazine allegations concerning wiretapping
as well as the Hoover threat to Kleindienst.
February 23 , 1973: Dean's recol lect ion of t h 4 ~ an : ;
basical ly i s as follows. Late in the afternoon
Dean receives a ca l l from ~ I a r r c n saying t ha thas a
magazine I story tha t the FBI , a t the direct ion of
the ~ I h i t e House , tapped newsmen and IThite House s t a f f
people. Dean then ta lks to Ehrlichman and suggests
th a t they t r y t rack down the l e a k . ~ Dean ca l l s
Gray . Gray i s in Florida so Dean ta lks to Fel t .
Dean t r i e s to smoke Fel t out as to whether he i s the
leak. Fel t t e l l s him he doesn ' t know where the leak
carne from , but the story is true , and tha t Dean should
ta lk to Sullivan . Dean ta lks to l1itchell and Mitchell
aayn tha t he has been cal led on the story and has
told ther.l tha t it E a "pipe dream" and tha t he i s
coordinating his story with the Just ice Department.
Dean then again speaks to Ehrlichman and i s ins t ructed
to t e l l Ziegler to deny the story and also get)approval
for talking l i i th Sullivan . Dcan ca l ls Sullivan and
Sullivan comes over and t e l l s Dean about the wiretaps
anCkothe r abuses of the FBI by Johnson.
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(/'·Ct·· ..., Fc b uar 24. 1913 : 2 : 00 p.m. Ehrlichman depar ts
DilVid.
-:0 0 p . m. Nixon departs
ta lks to Gray in Florida .
Camp David. ~ 1 8 o , Fel t
February 25, 1913: 2 : 00 p . m. -2:30 p . m. Nixon ta lks to
Haldeman re Time magazine. Haldeman notes indicate tha t
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Nixon has talked to Ehrlichman about the Time
magazine ar t ic le and that T i ~ e magazine has the
names of Brandon and Safire as subjects of wir e taps .
There is a further indication tha t Ehrlichman told
Zieg l e r to s tonewal l the s t Q r ~ an d thgt cveryth1ng
i s ..t:,ing handled by Dean an d Kleindiens t nnd th a t
Ehrlichman and Haldeman are to stAy out of it .
February 26 , 1973 : Ehr l i chman i s out of town in Detroi t
and New York al l day .
Dean ta l ks to Gray and Gray says he ' l l have no t rouble
with wiretap allegations because he can give t rue
testifflOny that there are no records .
February 27 , 1973 : 12 : 57 p .m. Ehrlichman ta lks to
Gray . probably i n par t about Hauge .
2 : 30 p . m. Dean ~ e e t s with Kl e ind iens t . According
to Dean, they discussed executive privi lcge , t-:i!ttergate,
and Connolly and then discussed b ~ k s to rni!tg4zine .
Dean t e l l s Kleindienst t hat he has heard from petersen )
&ftd- that Petersen has hearc from a lawyer from Time
magazine / that Fel t i s th e source of leaks to Time.
Kleindienst cal l s Petersen into his office and Petersen
repeats t his al l egation . Kl eindienst then cal l s
Gray i nto his of fice a nd Gray defends Fel t . After
the meeting , Dean wa l ks back to Gray ' r. off i ce and
in a br ie f con Versation , Gray continues to defe nd Felt ,
l l .k.,suggests tha t Tom may be the l e ~ k and further
s ta tes that once he i s conf i rmed he can give a l l the
top people i n the FBI a l ie detector tes t to detern ine
who is l eaking .
3 : 55 p . m. Dean ~ e t s with Nixon and discusses
bftc executive privi lege and the T i ~ ~ magazine
Nixon . on his own
.asks whcthnr or not
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"ticle
.pcan thinks that Su l l i van i s the leak . Aoftd .ltlso in
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P disclIssing the wiretaps . in par t iC\ lh flrandon Nt';"",n ~ H = ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ - - -
~ t a t c s tha t of course we did
it,but nof course
They a l so discussed the poss ib i l i ty of Fe l t being ..
1, ( <-
a-. " " ..".J. .... " '" r.""the source of the leak and Dean reports i ~ 8 P A i ~ 'bvo ... j P n . I l ~ t ' : " ' l ' - If...w.... ...
e a r l i e r conversat ion with G r a Y ~ ~ h a t once Gray i s
set t led in a t the FBI he ca n give everyone a l ie
detector t e s t .
February 26 , 1973 , 9 : 12 a . m. Nixon again mecto with Dean
and ag ai n discusses the Time magazine ar t ic le an d the
poss ib i l i ty that Fel t i s the leak.
March 1 , 1973: Gray t e s t i f i e s tha t there arc no records
of any such wiretapping as alleged by Time and l a te r
boasts to Dean how well he had handled the questiDning
on the subject .
(From various notes it appears tha t a f t e ~ F e b ~ u a ~ y 28,
the main c o n c e ~ i n G ~ a y h e a ~ i n g s was his of fe r
to le t anyone on the Coror.dttee have access to FBI
f i les as well as his responses to questions on W a t e ~ 9 a t eA p ~ i l 6 , 1973 : Gray w i t h d ~ a w s his nama from 9 i d e ~ a t i o n
from the D i r e c t o ~ s h i pApril 19 , 1973 : Nixon meets separately with ~ ~ r e and
Petersen . lJl. tj f f i c O l l v e ~ s a t i o n 9 Nixon indicates
tha t there was wiretapping done in connectioll with
the Pentagon Pape r s case .Apr i l 27, 1973 : Gray ~ e s i g n s . Ruckelshaus appointed .
Also , Fielding burglary revealed to J udge Byrne .
May 3 . 19 73: Woodward and Bernstein story allege3 tha t there
was wiretapp ing done in connection with the Pentagon
P a p e ~ s case and th i s was par t of the o a r l i c ~ wiretap
program involving newsmen and mlite 1I0use s ta f f peop l e .
...........
They fur ther a l leged that r e c o r d apparently
destroyed ~ r o m th is o p e r a t ~
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11uy 11 , 1973 : Nixon meets wi th lI<lldc", JI l _.",1 11,' I ,.'
approximately noon.
r II" ,
Byrne i s dismiss i ng the Ell : ;berg Cil!J\'i" IN " I -
May 14 , 1973 : Ruckelshaus pres!;; confcrcne , · I ',. ,• . 1
Kissinger wiretaps .
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