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Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus, Pythagoras, and PlatoA Brief Overview of the Centrality of Mathematics to

Greek Society and Education

Brandon Weislak

February 21, 2008

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Outline

Outline

Motivation for Research

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?Arguments for Aeschylus as a PythagoreanArguments against Aeschylus as a PythagoreanConclusion

Number, its Science, and its Place in SocietyPythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A Closer ExaminationPlato and Pythagoras: The Necessity of Mathematics forthe Development of the Soul and Good Moral CharacterMathematics: An Etymology and OverviewMathematics as the Cornerstone of Platonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Motivation for Research

I A curious passage

I In Prometheus’ delineation of the things which he gaveto men, he tells how he found number for man calling itthe, “chiefest of the arts.”1

I Why does Aeschylus have Prometheus make thisdistinction, and why is number the chiefest of thesciences?

1Aeschylus, Prometheus Bound, 459.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Motivation for Research

I A curious passage

I In Prometheus’ delineation of the things which he gaveto men, he tells how he found number for man calling itthe, “chiefest of the arts.”1

I Why does Aeschylus have Prometheus make thisdistinction, and why is number the chiefest of thesciences?

1Aeschylus, Prometheus Bound, 459.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Motivation for Research

I A curious passage

I In Prometheus’ delineation of the things which he gaveto men, he tells how he found number for man calling itthe, “chiefest of the arts.”1

I Why does Aeschylus have Prometheus make thisdistinction, and why is number the chiefest of thesciences?

1Aeschylus, Prometheus Bound, 459.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?

I Griffith in his commentary notes that theaforementioned phrase “recalls Pythagorean saying,panton sophotatos ho arithmos (number is the mostlearned of all things).”

I Cicero says, “Aeschylus non poeta solum, sed etiamPythagoreus (Aeschylus was not only a poet, but also aPythagorean).”2

2Cicero, Tusc. Disp., 2.23.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?

I Griffith in his commentary notes that theaforementioned phrase “recalls Pythagorean saying,panton sophotatos ho arithmos (number is the mostlearned of all things).”

I Cicero says, “Aeschylus non poeta solum, sed etiamPythagoreus (Aeschylus was not only a poet, but also aPythagorean).”2

2Cicero, Tusc. Disp., 2.23.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?Arguments for Aeschylus as a Pythagorean:

I Thomson not only seats the aforementioned passage inthe tradition of the Pythagoreans, but numerouselements of Orestia as well.

I Bous epi glossei megas (a great ox upon the tongue) isa symbol of the Pythagoreans who advocated silentmeditation3

I Discussion of marrow refers to the soul residing in thecerebral spinal fluid and other Pythagorean doctrinesrelated aging and the spinal marrow4

I Discussion of health refers to the mean, which again isa Pythagorean idea5

I The unwritten incest law in the Eumenides is actually aPythagorean commandment.6

3Aeschylus, The Orestia, ed. George Thomson, Vol. 2, p.12.4Ibid. p.15-17.5Ibid. p.80.6Ibid. p.201.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?Arguments for Aeschylus as a Pythagorean:

I Thomson not only seats the aforementioned passage inthe tradition of the Pythagoreans, but numerouselements of Orestia as well.

I Bous epi glossei megas (a great ox upon the tongue) isa symbol of the Pythagoreans who advocated silentmeditation3

I Discussion of marrow refers to the soul residing in thecerebral spinal fluid and other Pythagorean doctrinesrelated aging and the spinal marrow4

I Discussion of health refers to the mean, which again isa Pythagorean idea5

I The unwritten incest law in the Eumenides is actually aPythagorean commandment.6

3Aeschylus, The Orestia, ed. George Thomson, Vol. 2, p.12.4Ibid. p.15-17.5Ibid. p.80.6Ibid. p.201.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?Arguments for Aeschylus as a Pythagorean:

I Thomson not only seats the aforementioned passage inthe tradition of the Pythagoreans, but numerouselements of Orestia as well.

I Bous epi glossei megas (a great ox upon the tongue) isa symbol of the Pythagoreans who advocated silentmeditation3

I Discussion of marrow refers to the soul residing in thecerebral spinal fluid and other Pythagorean doctrinesrelated aging and the spinal marrow4

I Discussion of health refers to the mean, which again isa Pythagorean idea5

I The unwritten incest law in the Eumenides is actually aPythagorean commandment.6

3Aeschylus, The Orestia, ed. George Thomson, Vol. 2, p.12.4Ibid. p.15-17.5Ibid. p.80.6Ibid. p.201.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?Arguments for Aeschylus as a Pythagorean:

I Thomson not only seats the aforementioned passage inthe tradition of the Pythagoreans, but numerouselements of Orestia as well.

I Bous epi glossei megas (a great ox upon the tongue) isa symbol of the Pythagoreans who advocated silentmeditation3

I Discussion of marrow refers to the soul residing in thecerebral spinal fluid and other Pythagorean doctrinesrelated aging and the spinal marrow4

I Discussion of health refers to the mean, which again isa Pythagorean idea5

I The unwritten incest law in the Eumenides is actually aPythagorean commandment.6

3Aeschylus, The Orestia, ed. George Thomson, Vol. 2, p.12.4Ibid. p.15-17.5Ibid. p.80.6Ibid. p.201.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?Arguments for Aeschylus as a Pythagorean:

I Thomson not only seats the aforementioned passage inthe tradition of the Pythagoreans, but numerouselements of Orestia as well.

I Bous epi glossei megas (a great ox upon the tongue) isa symbol of the Pythagoreans who advocated silentmeditation3

I Discussion of marrow refers to the soul residing in thecerebral spinal fluid and other Pythagorean doctrinesrelated aging and the spinal marrow4

I Discussion of health refers to the mean, which again isa Pythagorean idea5

I The unwritten incest law in the Eumenides is actually aPythagorean commandment.6

3Aeschylus, The Orestia, ed. George Thomson, Vol. 2, p.12.4Ibid. p.15-17.5Ibid. p.80.6Ibid. p.201.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?

Arguments against Aeschylus as a Pythagorean:

I Griffith notes that by Cicero’s time the knowledge ofthe Pythagoreans of the fifth century BC was likelymore limited than our knowledge today.7

I Supposed Pythagorean elements cannot be held to betruly Pythagorean, since those present in Aeschylus arenot unique to the Pythagoreans, e.g. the incest law wasa commonly followed custom

I Also the foremost place of number is characteristic ofits utility to man, not its religious significance8

7M. Griffith, Dionysiaca, p.110.8Ibid. p.110.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?

Arguments against Aeschylus as a Pythagorean:

I Griffith notes that by Cicero’s time the knowledge ofthe Pythagoreans of the fifth century BC was likelymore limited than our knowledge today.7

I Supposed Pythagorean elements cannot be held to betruly Pythagorean, since those present in Aeschylus arenot unique to the Pythagoreans, e.g. the incest law wasa commonly followed custom

I Also the foremost place of number is characteristic ofits utility to man, not its religious significance8

7M. Griffith, Dionysiaca, p.110.8Ibid. p.110.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?

Arguments against Aeschylus as a Pythagorean:

I Griffith notes that by Cicero’s time the knowledge ofthe Pythagoreans of the fifth century BC was likelymore limited than our knowledge today.7

I Supposed Pythagorean elements cannot be held to betruly Pythagorean, since those present in Aeschylus arenot unique to the Pythagoreans, e.g. the incest law wasa commonly followed custom

I Also the foremost place of number is characteristic ofits utility to man, not its religious significance8

7M. Griffith, Dionysiaca, p.110.8Ibid. p.110.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?

Conclusion:

I Without the quote from Cicero, the “Pythagorean”elements of the plays seem too general to be taken astruly Pythagorean sentiments.

I Sentiments expressed elsewhere in previous authors, andalso sometimes even common customs

I No other explicit Pythagorean statements, aside fromthe “foremost of the sciences” statement, therefore it isthe exception rather than the rule

I Aeschylus was a poet, not a Pythagorean.

I Prometheus stating that he gave number to man, is nota reflection of Aeschylus as a Pythagorean, but rather areflection of the importance and utility of number andmathematics for man, making Prometheus seem all themore tragic for giving such a great gift.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?

Conclusion:

I Without the quote from Cicero, the “Pythagorean”elements of the plays seem too general to be taken astruly Pythagorean sentiments.

I Sentiments expressed elsewhere in previous authors, andalso sometimes even common customs

I No other explicit Pythagorean statements, aside fromthe “foremost of the sciences” statement, therefore it isthe exception rather than the rule

I Aeschylus was a poet, not a Pythagorean.

I Prometheus stating that he gave number to man, is nota reflection of Aeschylus as a Pythagorean, but rather areflection of the importance and utility of number andmathematics for man, making Prometheus seem all themore tragic for giving such a great gift.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?

Conclusion:

I Without the quote from Cicero, the “Pythagorean”elements of the plays seem too general to be taken astruly Pythagorean sentiments.

I Sentiments expressed elsewhere in previous authors, andalso sometimes even common customs

I No other explicit Pythagorean statements, aside fromthe “foremost of the sciences” statement, therefore it isthe exception rather than the rule

I Aeschylus was a poet, not a Pythagorean.

I Prometheus stating that he gave number to man, is nota reflection of Aeschylus as a Pythagorean, but rather areflection of the importance and utility of number andmathematics for man, making Prometheus seem all themore tragic for giving such a great gift.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?

Conclusion:

I Without the quote from Cicero, the “Pythagorean”elements of the plays seem too general to be taken astruly Pythagorean sentiments.

I Sentiments expressed elsewhere in previous authors, andalso sometimes even common customs

I No other explicit Pythagorean statements, aside fromthe “foremost of the sciences” statement, therefore it isthe exception rather than the rule

I Aeschylus was a poet, not a Pythagorean.

I Prometheus stating that he gave number to man, is nota reflection of Aeschylus as a Pythagorean, but rather areflection of the importance and utility of number andmathematics for man, making Prometheus seem all themore tragic for giving such a great gift.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus: Poet or Pythagorean?

Conclusion:

I Without the quote from Cicero, the “Pythagorean”elements of the plays seem too general to be taken astruly Pythagorean sentiments.

I Sentiments expressed elsewhere in previous authors, andalso sometimes even common customs

I No other explicit Pythagorean statements, aside fromthe “foremost of the sciences” statement, therefore it isthe exception rather than the rule

I Aeschylus was a poet, not a Pythagorean.

I Prometheus stating that he gave number to man, is nota reflection of Aeschylus as a Pythagorean, but rather areflection of the importance and utility of number andmathematics for man, making Prometheus seem all themore tragic for giving such a great gift.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Number, its Science, and its Place in Society

I Number already seen as the foremost science inAeschylus

I For Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans, number seen asthe most learned of all things

I For the Pythagoreans, number takes on mystical andreligious significance as well

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Number, its Science, and its Place in Society

I Number already seen as the foremost science inAeschylus

I For Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans, number seen asthe most learned of all things

I For the Pythagoreans, number takes on mystical andreligious significance as well

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Number, its Science, and its Place in Society

I Number already seen as the foremost science inAeschylus

I For Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans, number seen asthe most learned of all things

I For the Pythagoreans, number takes on mystical andreligious significance as well

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Pythagoras:

I Historical background provided by post-Aristoteliansources, namely Aristoxenus and Dicaearchus9

I Sources often contradict each other, making theconstruction of any history of Pythagoras difficult

I Traditionally, Pythagoras lived in 6th century BC, fromSamos, associated with Egypt and Orient, active insoutern Italy, namely Croton and Metapontum10

I Discovered relation between notes of octave, namelythe ratio 6:8:9:12, through the use of means11

I HE DID NOT DISCOVER PYTHAGOREANTHEOREM! The result was known to the Babylonianmathematicians working nearly a millenium beforePythagoras.

9Walter Burkert, Lore and Science in Ancient Pythagoreanism, p.10910Ibid. p.112.11George Thomson, Aeschylus and Athens, p.200.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Pythagoras:I Historical background provided by post-Aristotelian

sources, namely Aristoxenus and Dicaearchus9

I Sources often contradict each other, making theconstruction of any history of Pythagoras difficult

I Traditionally, Pythagoras lived in 6th century BC, fromSamos, associated with Egypt and Orient, active insoutern Italy, namely Croton and Metapontum10

I Discovered relation between notes of octave, namelythe ratio 6:8:9:12, through the use of means11

I HE DID NOT DISCOVER PYTHAGOREANTHEOREM! The result was known to the Babylonianmathematicians working nearly a millenium beforePythagoras.

9Walter Burkert, Lore and Science in Ancient Pythagoreanism, p.10910Ibid. p.112.11George Thomson, Aeschylus and Athens, p.200.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Pythagoras:I Historical background provided by post-Aristotelian

sources, namely Aristoxenus and Dicaearchus9

I Sources often contradict each other, making theconstruction of any history of Pythagoras difficult

I Traditionally, Pythagoras lived in 6th century BC, fromSamos, associated with Egypt and Orient, active insoutern Italy, namely Croton and Metapontum10

I Discovered relation between notes of octave, namelythe ratio 6:8:9:12, through the use of means11

I HE DID NOT DISCOVER PYTHAGOREANTHEOREM! The result was known to the Babylonianmathematicians working nearly a millenium beforePythagoras.

9Walter Burkert, Lore and Science in Ancient Pythagoreanism, p.10910Ibid. p.112.11George Thomson, Aeschylus and Athens, p.200.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Pythagoras:I Historical background provided by post-Aristotelian

sources, namely Aristoxenus and Dicaearchus9

I Sources often contradict each other, making theconstruction of any history of Pythagoras difficult

I Traditionally, Pythagoras lived in 6th century BC, fromSamos, associated with Egypt and Orient, active insoutern Italy, namely Croton and Metapontum10

I Discovered relation between notes of octave, namelythe ratio 6:8:9:12, through the use of means11

I HE DID NOT DISCOVER PYTHAGOREANTHEOREM! The result was known to the Babylonianmathematicians working nearly a millenium beforePythagoras.

9Walter Burkert, Lore and Science in Ancient Pythagoreanism, p.10910Ibid. p.112.11George Thomson, Aeschylus and Athens, p.200.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Pythagoras:I Historical background provided by post-Aristotelian

sources, namely Aristoxenus and Dicaearchus9

I Sources often contradict each other, making theconstruction of any history of Pythagoras difficult

I Traditionally, Pythagoras lived in 6th century BC, fromSamos, associated with Egypt and Orient, active insoutern Italy, namely Croton and Metapontum10

I Discovered relation between notes of octave, namelythe ratio 6:8:9:12, through the use of means11

I HE DID NOT DISCOVER PYTHAGOREANTHEOREM! The result was known to the Babylonianmathematicians working nearly a millenium beforePythagoras.

9Walter Burkert, Lore and Science in Ancient Pythagoreanism, p.10910Ibid. p.112.11George Thomson, Aeschylus and Athens, p.200.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Pythagoras:I Historical background provided by post-Aristotelian

sources, namely Aristoxenus and Dicaearchus9

I Sources often contradict each other, making theconstruction of any history of Pythagoras difficult

I Traditionally, Pythagoras lived in 6th century BC, fromSamos, associated with Egypt and Orient, active insoutern Italy, namely Croton and Metapontum10

I Discovered relation between notes of octave, namelythe ratio 6:8:9:12, through the use of means11

I HE DID NOT DISCOVER PYTHAGOREANTHEOREM! The result was known to the Babylonianmathematicians working nearly a millenium beforePythagoras.

9Walter Burkert, Lore and Science in Ancient Pythagoreanism, p.10910Ibid. p.112.11George Thomson, Aeschylus and Athens, p.200.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Tenants and Practices:

I Transmigration of souls, reincarnation

I Vegetarianism, except beans, namely lentils

I Mathematical studies as moral basis for life, supposedly“all is number”12

I Numerology:

I Odd number is male, even femaleI First ten numbers assigned special meaning, ten holiest,

represented number of universe, two first female, threefirst male, five marriage because two plus three

I Seventeen abhorred because it fell between sixteen andeighteen, a perfect square, and the double of a perfectsquare respectively.

I Initiation process

12Carl Boyer, A History of Mathematics, 2nd ed., p.56-57.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Tenants and Practices:

I Transmigration of souls, reincarnation

I Vegetarianism, except beans, namely lentils

I Mathematical studies as moral basis for life, supposedly“all is number”12

I Numerology:

I Odd number is male, even femaleI First ten numbers assigned special meaning, ten holiest,

represented number of universe, two first female, threefirst male, five marriage because two plus three

I Seventeen abhorred because it fell between sixteen andeighteen, a perfect square, and the double of a perfectsquare respectively.

I Initiation process

12Carl Boyer, A History of Mathematics, 2nd ed., p.56-57.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Tenants and Practices:

I Transmigration of souls, reincarnation

I Vegetarianism, except beans, namely lentils

I Mathematical studies as moral basis for life, supposedly“all is number”12

I Numerology:

I Odd number is male, even femaleI First ten numbers assigned special meaning, ten holiest,

represented number of universe, two first female, threefirst male, five marriage because two plus three

I Seventeen abhorred because it fell between sixteen andeighteen, a perfect square, and the double of a perfectsquare respectively.

I Initiation process

12Carl Boyer, A History of Mathematics, 2nd ed., p.56-57.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Tenants and Practices:

I Transmigration of souls, reincarnation

I Vegetarianism, except beans, namely lentils

I Mathematical studies as moral basis for life, supposedly“all is number”12

I Numerology:

I Odd number is male, even femaleI First ten numbers assigned special meaning, ten holiest,

represented number of universe, two first female, threefirst male, five marriage because two plus three

I Seventeen abhorred because it fell between sixteen andeighteen, a perfect square, and the double of a perfectsquare respectively.

I Initiation process

12Carl Boyer, A History of Mathematics, 2nd ed., p.56-57.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Tenants and Practices:

I Transmigration of souls, reincarnation

I Vegetarianism, except beans, namely lentils

I Mathematical studies as moral basis for life, supposedly“all is number”12

I Numerology:I Odd number is male, even female

I First ten numbers assigned special meaning, ten holiest,represented number of universe, two first female, threefirst male, five marriage because two plus three

I Seventeen abhorred because it fell between sixteen andeighteen, a perfect square, and the double of a perfectsquare respectively.

I Initiation process

12Carl Boyer, A History of Mathematics, 2nd ed., p.56-57.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Tenants and Practices:

I Transmigration of souls, reincarnation

I Vegetarianism, except beans, namely lentils

I Mathematical studies as moral basis for life, supposedly“all is number”12

I Numerology:I Odd number is male, even femaleI First ten numbers assigned special meaning, ten holiest,

represented number of universe, two first female, threefirst male, five marriage because two plus three

I Seventeen abhorred because it fell between sixteen andeighteen, a perfect square, and the double of a perfectsquare respectively.

I Initiation process

12Carl Boyer, A History of Mathematics, 2nd ed., p.56-57.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Tenants and Practices:

I Transmigration of souls, reincarnation

I Vegetarianism, except beans, namely lentils

I Mathematical studies as moral basis for life, supposedly“all is number”12

I Numerology:I Odd number is male, even femaleI First ten numbers assigned special meaning, ten holiest,

represented number of universe, two first female, threefirst male, five marriage because two plus three

I Seventeen abhorred because it fell between sixteen andeighteen, a perfect square, and the double of a perfectsquare respectively.

I Initiation process

12Carl Boyer, A History of Mathematics, 2nd ed., p.56-57.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Pythagoras and the Pythagoreans: A CloserExamination

Tenants and Practices:

I Transmigration of souls, reincarnation

I Vegetarianism, except beans, namely lentils

I Mathematical studies as moral basis for life, supposedly“all is number”12

I Numerology:I Odd number is male, even femaleI First ten numbers assigned special meaning, ten holiest,

represented number of universe, two first female, threefirst male, five marriage because two plus three

I Seventeen abhorred because it fell between sixteen andeighteen, a perfect square, and the double of a perfectsquare respectively.

I Initiation process

12Carl Boyer, A History of Mathematics, 2nd ed., p.56-57.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Plato and Pythagoras

I As seen, for Pythagoras mathematics and study ofnumber necessary for moral life

I Use of the adjective mathematike to describe that areaof study credited to Pythagoras

I Later, mathematics becomes a cornerstone of educationwith Plato

I What exactly was mathematics for a Greek?

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Plato and Pythagoras

I As seen, for Pythagoras mathematics and study ofnumber necessary for moral life

I Use of the adjective mathematike to describe that areaof study credited to Pythagoras

I Later, mathematics becomes a cornerstone of educationwith Plato

I What exactly was mathematics for a Greek?

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Plato and Pythagoras

I As seen, for Pythagoras mathematics and study ofnumber necessary for moral life

I Use of the adjective mathematike to describe that areaof study credited to Pythagoras

I Later, mathematics becomes a cornerstone of educationwith Plato

I What exactly was mathematics for a Greek?

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Plato and Pythagoras

I As seen, for Pythagoras mathematics and study ofnumber necessary for moral life

I Use of the adjective mathematike to describe that areaof study credited to Pythagoras

I Later, mathematics becomes a cornerstone of educationwith Plato

I What exactly was mathematics for a Greek?

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Mathematics: An Etymology and Overview

Mathematics:

I From ta mathemata meaning “learning, knowledge, orthings which are learnt”13

I Not a singular subject or area of study, but rathercomposed of subdisciplines:

I For Plato there are tria mathemata : arithmetic,astronomy, and measurement of length, level, andheight, or geometry.14

I For Pythagoras and his followers only arithmetic andgeometry are mathematike .15

I Others, such as Archytas, a later Pythagorean, includemusic.

13Liddell and Scott, Greek-English Lexicon.14Plato, Laws, 7.817e.15Thomas Heath, Greek Mathematics, Vol. I, p.11.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Mathematics: An Etymology and Overview

Mathematics:

I From ta mathemata meaning “learning, knowledge, orthings which are learnt”13

I Not a singular subject or area of study, but rathercomposed of subdisciplines:

I For Plato there are tria mathemata : arithmetic,astronomy, and measurement of length, level, andheight, or geometry.14

I For Pythagoras and his followers only arithmetic andgeometry are mathematike .15

I Others, such as Archytas, a later Pythagorean, includemusic.

13Liddell and Scott, Greek-English Lexicon.14Plato, Laws, 7.817e.15Thomas Heath, Greek Mathematics, Vol. I, p.11.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Mathematics: An Etymology and Overview

Mathematics:

I From ta mathemata meaning “learning, knowledge, orthings which are learnt”13

I Not a singular subject or area of study, but rathercomposed of subdisciplines:

I For Plato there are tria mathemata : arithmetic,astronomy, and measurement of length, level, andheight, or geometry.14

I For Pythagoras and his followers only arithmetic andgeometry are mathematike .15

I Others, such as Archytas, a later Pythagorean, includemusic.

13Liddell and Scott, Greek-English Lexicon.14Plato, Laws, 7.817e.15Thomas Heath, Greek Mathematics, Vol. I, p.11.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Mathematics: An Etymology and Overview

Mathematics:

I From ta mathemata meaning “learning, knowledge, orthings which are learnt”13

I Not a singular subject or area of study, but rathercomposed of subdisciplines:

I For Plato there are tria mathemata : arithmetic,astronomy, and measurement of length, level, andheight, or geometry.14

I For Pythagoras and his followers only arithmetic andgeometry are mathematike .15

I Others, such as Archytas, a later Pythagorean, includemusic.

13Liddell and Scott, Greek-English Lexicon.14Plato, Laws, 7.817e.15Thomas Heath, Greek Mathematics, Vol. I, p.11.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Mathematics: An Etymology and Overview

Mathematics:

I From ta mathemata meaning “learning, knowledge, orthings which are learnt”13

I Not a singular subject or area of study, but rathercomposed of subdisciplines:

I For Plato there are tria mathemata : arithmetic,astronomy, and measurement of length, level, andheight, or geometry.14

I For Pythagoras and his followers only arithmetic andgeometry are mathematike .15

I Others, such as Archytas, a later Pythagorean, includemusic.

13Liddell and Scott, Greek-English Lexicon.14Plato, Laws, 7.817e.15Thomas Heath, Greek Mathematics, Vol. I, p.11.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Mathematics: An Etymology and Overview

I Arithmetic separate from calculation (arithmon kailogismon) 16

I Arithmon for Greeks is closer to modern number theory,whereas logismon is closer to modern arithmetic

I Geometry also often considered only abstractly, e.g. inhis Elements, Euclid does not assign any numericalvalue to a side or angle in a geometric figure

16Heath p.13.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Mathematics as the Cornerstone of PlatonicEducation

I In the Republic, the guardians are given instruction incalculation, geometry, solid geometry, astronomy, andfinally music.17

I Music to ears as astronomy to eyes, says Socrates toGlaucon citing the Pythagoreans.18

I Pythagoras loved for educational legacy, and followersare still present in Plato’s day19

I Republic intended to be used as manual for orderingsoul and living well, thus mathematics central to theformation of the person

I The legacy of this educational philosophy can be seentoday in the modern liberal arts education espoused bymany universities (math is a requirement).

17Plato, Republic, 521c-531d.18Ibid. 530d.19Ibid. 600b.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Mathematics as the Cornerstone of PlatonicEducation

I In the Republic, the guardians are given instruction incalculation, geometry, solid geometry, astronomy, andfinally music.17

I Music to ears as astronomy to eyes, says Socrates toGlaucon citing the Pythagoreans.18

I Pythagoras loved for educational legacy, and followersare still present in Plato’s day19

I Republic intended to be used as manual for orderingsoul and living well, thus mathematics central to theformation of the person

I The legacy of this educational philosophy can be seentoday in the modern liberal arts education espoused bymany universities (math is a requirement).

17Plato, Republic, 521c-531d.18Ibid. 530d.19Ibid. 600b.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Mathematics as the Cornerstone of PlatonicEducation

I In the Republic, the guardians are given instruction incalculation, geometry, solid geometry, astronomy, andfinally music.17

I Music to ears as astronomy to eyes, says Socrates toGlaucon citing the Pythagoreans.18

I Pythagoras loved for educational legacy, and followersare still present in Plato’s day19

I Republic intended to be used as manual for orderingsoul and living well, thus mathematics central to theformation of the person

I The legacy of this educational philosophy can be seentoday in the modern liberal arts education espoused bymany universities (math is a requirement).

17Plato, Republic, 521c-531d.18Ibid. 530d.19Ibid. 600b.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Mathematics as the Cornerstone of PlatonicEducation

I In the Republic, the guardians are given instruction incalculation, geometry, solid geometry, astronomy, andfinally music.17

I Music to ears as astronomy to eyes, says Socrates toGlaucon citing the Pythagoreans.18

I Pythagoras loved for educational legacy, and followersare still present in Plato’s day19

I Republic intended to be used as manual for orderingsoul and living well, thus mathematics central to theformation of the person

I The legacy of this educational philosophy can be seentoday in the modern liberal arts education espoused bymany universities (math is a requirement).

17Plato, Republic, 521c-531d.18Ibid. 530d.19Ibid. 600b.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Mathematics as the Cornerstone of PlatonicEducation

I In the Republic, the guardians are given instruction incalculation, geometry, solid geometry, astronomy, andfinally music.17

I Music to ears as astronomy to eyes, says Socrates toGlaucon citing the Pythagoreans.18

I Pythagoras loved for educational legacy, and followersare still present in Plato’s day19

I Republic intended to be used as manual for orderingsoul and living well, thus mathematics central to theformation of the person

I The legacy of this educational philosophy can be seentoday in the modern liberal arts education espoused bymany universities (math is a requirement).

17Plato, Republic, 521c-531d.18Ibid. 530d.19Ibid. 600b.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Conclusion

I Passage in Aeschylus begs question of whether or nothe was Pythagorean

I Unlikely since most evidence seems too general tosupport the conclusion

I Passage then explained by number being great utility,which makes Prometheus seem more tragic in that he ispunished for giving such a good thing to man

I While Pythagoreans were cultic religion, the idea of thecentrality of mathematics in education was picked up byPlato, and made a cornerstone of his personal formativephilosophy, which has a lasting legacy even today.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Conclusion

I Passage in Aeschylus begs question of whether or nothe was Pythagorean

I Unlikely since most evidence seems too general tosupport the conclusion

I Passage then explained by number being great utility,which makes Prometheus seem more tragic in that he ispunished for giving such a good thing to man

I While Pythagoreans were cultic religion, the idea of thecentrality of mathematics in education was picked up byPlato, and made a cornerstone of his personal formativephilosophy, which has a lasting legacy even today.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Conclusion

I Passage in Aeschylus begs question of whether or nothe was Pythagorean

I Unlikely since most evidence seems too general tosupport the conclusion

I Passage then explained by number being great utility,which makes Prometheus seem more tragic in that he ispunished for giving such a good thing to man

I While Pythagoreans were cultic religion, the idea of thecentrality of mathematics in education was picked up byPlato, and made a cornerstone of his personal formativephilosophy, which has a lasting legacy even today.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Conclusion

I Passage in Aeschylus begs question of whether or nothe was Pythagorean

I Unlikely since most evidence seems too general tosupport the conclusion

I Passage then explained by number being great utility,which makes Prometheus seem more tragic in that he ispunished for giving such a good thing to man

I While Pythagoreans were cultic religion, the idea of thecentrality of mathematics in education was picked up byPlato, and made a cornerstone of his personal formativephilosophy, which has a lasting legacy even today.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography

Aeschylus. The Orestia. ed. George Thomson. Vol. 2.Amsterdam: Adolf M. Hakkert, 1966.

Aeschylus. Prometheus Bound. ed. Mark Griffith. NewYork: Cambridge University Press, 1983.

Boyer, Carl. A History of Mathematics. 2nd ed. NewYork: John Wiley and Sons, 1989.

Burkert, Walter. Lore and Science in AncientPythagoreanism. trans. Edwin L. Minar Jr. Cambridge,Massachusetts: Harvard University Press, 1972.

Griffith, Mark. Aeschylus, Sicily and Prometheus. inDionysiaca. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press,1978.

Heath, Thomas. Greek Mathematics. Oxford: OxfordUniversity Press, 1921.

Plato. Republic. trans. G. M. A. Grube. ed. C. D. C.Reeve. Indianapolis: Hackett Publishing, 1992.

Thomson, George Aeschylus and Athens. London:Lawrence and Wishart, 1966.

Aeschylus,Pythagoras, and

Plato

Brandon Weislak

Outline

Motivation forResearch

Aeschylus: Poet orPythagorean?

Arguments forAeschylus as aPythagorean

Arguments againstAeschylus as aPythagorean

Conclusion

Number, itsScience, and itsPlace in Society

Pythagoras and thePythagoreans: ACloser Examination

Plato and Pythagoras:The Necessity ofMathematics for theDevelopment of theSoul and Good MoralCharacter

Mathematics: AnEtymology andOverview

Mathematics as theCornerstone ofPlatonic Education

Conclusion

Bibliography