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February 17,2017 To: All Vendors of Record Re: Addendum #2 All vendors are to accept the information contained herein as the official response of IPTC. TO ALL BIDDERS OF RECORD AND TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: This Addendum is being issued prior to the due date for receiving proposals. This Addendum forms a part of the Contract Documents and modifies the original Request for Proposal (RFP) as noted below and shall be incorporated into the Contract Documents. All other provisions of the RFP released December 5, 2016 with the exception of changes below, shall remain unchanged. This Addendum is issued in accordance with the provisions of Section 3 of the Request for Proposal document. All Proposals shall be based upon work as modified by this Addendum. Acknowledged receipt of this Addendum on the Acknowledgement of Addendum Form is required. Failure to do so may result in disqualification of the Bidder. This addendum addresses (RFA) Request for Alterations presented by bidders before the deadline to the submission of proposals for RFP 16-11-243 Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) Battery Electrical (60’) Buses.

Clarification and Update to Section 1.4

Terms of Engagement: IPTC requires the term of the contract will be for five (5) years, also

proposal will remain valid for at least one hundred twenty (120) days from receipt date of

proposal.

Clarification and Update to Bid Offer Cost Form Vendors may submit multiple proposals if they have multiple variants of a bus that could be used. For

example, a Vendor could submit one proposal for a bus that uses on-route charging and another

proposal for one that uses a fuel cell range extender. If a vendor chooses to submit multiple

proposals, they should include each supplementary proposal as an addendum and only include the

information that is different from the main proposal. There is no need to repeat company

information or structural information that may be the same across all variants.

1. Per TS 33.4 Air System, we request for approved equal for our BYD Oil-less Electric Air compressor as it

provides similar performance as the Wabco air compressor. Further BYD has designed each of our transit

buses around our Air compressor system. Please review information below which provides specifications

of our Air compressor.

Material coding 11274022-00

part number WX339D4-3509010A

Supplier Internal Product Model WX339D4-3509010A

Source of Supplier

Applicable models C9A/C9B

Dimensions 728x358x344

Displacement (L / min) 330

Rated pressure (bar) 9.5

Noise (dB (A)) 75

Oil content /

Rated speed (rpm) 2400

Working temperature (℃) —40～50

Rated power (kw) 4

power supply 380V/50HZ

Degree of protection IP55

Insulation class H

Quality (kg) 55

The amount of fuel /

Three-phase line length (mm) 750

Vehicle voltage (V) 610-750V

cooling method Air-Cooled

lubricating oil /

IPTC Response:

Approved.

2. Per TS 15.1 Door Placement, it calls for Each door to be 40” in width for each door. We request that the

Middle/Rear doors have an opening width of no less than 36” and clear width of no less than 32”

IPTC Response:

A door width of 40”+ is preferable, but not required. Smaller doors are allowed, but will be scored

lower for rider egress.

3. We wanted to know if wireless charging is a priority, preferred, or simply not a concern? We have some

good information in support of wireless charging versus plug-in, and wanted to make sure we submit a

proposal that meets your expectations?

IPTC Response:

The following list IPTC’s hierarchy of preferred charging methods, in order. Vendors who propose

a priority 1 charging method will be scored higher than a vendor that proposes a priority 2 or 3.

Similarly, a priority 2 will be scored higher than priority 3.

1. Charging only in the garage with no on-route charging. This may be done using a wired

connection that an operator would manually connect.

2. Garage charging plus wireless inductive charging on route. ALL on-route charging must be

capable of being engaged without the operator leaving his/her seat.

3. Garage charging plus conductive charging on route. ALL on-route charging must be capable

of being engaged without the operator leaving his/her seat.

4. As proposed by Ballard during the pre-bid meeting held on Jan. 10 and with the reference to Addendum

1-1 to the RFP, Ballard would like to submit this RFA to include fuel cell range extenders for the BRT

buses.

Ballard request approval for the on-site water to hydrogen generation system.

This system will meet the needs of IndyGo should you choose the fuel cell solution. The scope of supply

and installation is listed below detailing the system, as well as the expected fueling costs associated with

using a fuel cell vehicle.

H2 Infrastructure for IndyGo Transit

Thank you for issuing the amendment 1.1 with an interest in the fuel cell range extender buses. Ballard is

in touch with reputed H2 refueling system (HRS) suppliers to support the H2 supply for the buses. As

specified in the addendum only on-site water electrolysis systems are being considered for hydrogen

supply.

Scope of Supply

The Hydrogen for the project will be supplied from on-site electrolysis. Scope of supply is expected to be

as follows:

Obtain permits and prepare the installation site to install the electrolysis, compression, storage and

dispensing equipment

Sufficient storage will be installed after discussions with IndyGo

Buses will need to be fueled once per day, preferably at night between midnight to start of operations the

next day

Each bus will take approximately 10 to 15 mins to fuel up to 60 kg of storage at 350 bar

60 kg of storage at 350 bar will ensure a range of at least 300 miles of operation

HRS supplier will be responsible to obtain certification for the installation

HRS supplier will be responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of the fueling system, ensuring >95%

availability

Approx. 3,600 sq. ft. of space will be required to install the on-site electrolysis system that consists of

electrolyzes, storage, compression and dispensing hardware. There is flexibility in terms of layout as the

whole system has a modular design.

Budgeting for Hydrogen Supply:

HRS supplier will takes on the project on supply, installations, commissioning, certification and operation

of the system on a turn-key basis

IndyGo will pay the supplier on per kg basis with a minimum take off per day (to be decided).

HRS price will be amortized over 12 years of operation

H2 pricing is expected to work out between $7 to $9 per kg assuming electric is available at industrial

Timeline

HRS installation will be progressed parallel to the bus build. It is expected that entire project will be

implemented within 12 to 18 months from signing of contract.

IPTC Response:

One of the primary reasons that IPTC is pursuing electric vehicles is to reduce the cost of ongoing

operating costs. Based on the description above, fueling a fuel cell bus would cost between $420

and $580 per day. A similar range on a battery electric bus would cost dramatically less (<$100

per day). Vendor should include the full cost of the electrolysis system into the upfront cost in

their proposal, rather than amortizing it across the usage of the system. Vendor should also

provide statistics on electricity consumption per kg of H2 produced and provide a full warranty on

the electrolysis system for 12 years to match the warranty provided on the batteries of any other

vendor.

5. Page 13 / Section 9.1 Special Provisions for Level Boarding

The body sides of the bus should be on the same plane and be free of any protrusions greater

than 0.5”. This includes items such as fender skirts.

New Flyer requests approval to provide our standard fender skirt which is required to minimize water

spray however this protrudes 1.24".

New Flyer does have an option to provide a stainless steel trim which protrudes 0.5" but does not provide

protection for water spray, see request #9. Please refer to the attached drawing 538881 for trim design.

IPTC Response:

In this situation, the protrusion requirement is a higher priority than the water spray requirement.

The stainless steel trim should be used.

6. Page 13 / Section 9.1 Special Provisions for Level Boarding

The outer wall of each tire on each side shall be on the same plane and each shall be the same

distance from the side plane of the body.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a bus that does not have all the outer wall of each tire on the

same plane. New Flyer's has dual tires on the rear drive axle and dual tires on the center drive axle and

single tires of the front axle. There is a difference of 1 inch from the front outside walls to the center and

rear outside walls. This is inherent to the design of New Flyer's bus.

IPTC Response:

The tolerance for this plane should be considered +/- 1 inch. If Vendor can meet the plane

requirement within one inch, that is allowable, but it is critical to not exceed 1 inch.

7. Page 15 / Section 10.2 Modesty Panels

Modesty panels shall extend no higher than the lower daylight opening of the side window and

those forward of transverse seats shall extend downward to a level between 1-1/2 and 1 inches

above the floor.

New Flyer requests to provide modesty panels that are approximately 6" above the lower window line. As

a result of the larger panoramic window view, the passenger windows have a lower daylight opening.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

8. Page 16 / Section 10.4 Interior Barriers and Panels-Construction

Interior panels may be integral, color impregnated, graffiti resistant or applied to the basic bus

structure.

New Flyer requests approval to provide ceiling panels made of thermoplastic which meet FMVSS

regulation but is not graffiti resistant.

Another option is providing a docket 90 compliant material made of Kydex which is graffiti resistant.

IPTC Response:

Approved. However, Vendor must supply samples for approval.

9. Page 16 / Section 11.1 Floor Design-Height

Height of the floor above the street shall be 15 inches +/- 0.25 inches, measured at the centerline

of each door.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a bus that has a ride height of 14 inches. This provides industry

leading accessibility to the bus. New Flyer would recommend that the platforms be built to a 14 level.

New Flyer also advises that we do have the capability to raise our bus to the required 15 inches for level

platform loading, this is done through the air system.

IPTC Response:

The station platforms are already designed to a height of 15 inches. New Flyer should design

their system to match this height.

10. Page 16 / Section 11.3 Floor Design-Edges

The floor shall be essentially a continuous flat plane. The floor will run up the sidewall for

minimum of 3”. All edges must be sealed as a waterproof protection.

New Flyer requests clarification on the definition of floor in which the "floor will run up the side wall for a

minimum of 3 inches. New Flyer's bus floor does not run up the sidewall. New Flyer's floor covering

does. Please clarify.

IPTC Response:

Correct. The floor covering shall run up the sidewall a minimum of 3 inches, not the floor itself.

11. Page 17 / Section 12.1 Step Design-Steps The step at each doorway shall conform to the floor height requirements in the previous section.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a bus that has a ride height of 14 inches. This provides industry

leading accessibility to the bus. New Flyer would recommend that the platforms be built to a 14 level.

New Flyer also advises that we do have the capability to raise our bus to the required 15 inches for level

platform loading, this is done through the air system.

IPTC Response:

See note above. Floor height should stay at 15 inches.

12. Page 17 / Section 13 Wheel Housing-Construction

Wheel housings shall be constructed of corrosion-resistant, fire resistant 14 gauge 304-type

stainless steel.

New Flyer requests approval to provide the front, center and rear wheelhouse tubs constructed of 18-

gauge 201 -type stainless steel per ASTM A240.

The vertical panels on the front tubs are 16ga. stainless steel.

The vertical panels on the center tubs are 7ga. stainless steel.

The vertical panels on the rear tubs 11ga. stainless steel.

The different gauge material is used to accommodate the welding process and to avoid “oil canning".

IPTC Response:

Approved.

13. Page 17 / Section 13.3 Wheel Housing-Fender Skirts

Features to minimize water spray from the bus in wet conditions shall be included in the wheel

housing design, but subject to the side plane requirements in the previous section.

Please refer to request #1. If IPTC approved the New Flyer's option for stainless steel trim which

protrudes 0.5", we request to remove the requirement for minimizing water spray as this option does not

provide such feature.

IPTC Response:

See #5 above.

14. Page 18 / Section 14.1 Service Compartments and Access Doors-Interior Access doors shall be hinged with gas-powered springs to hold the doors out of the mechanic’s

New Flyer requests approval to provide a bus that has smaller access doors that are not hinged or have

gas props. These doors such as the wheel chair access door, artic joint closeouts and HVAC ceiling

closeouts are retained with lanyards.

IPTC Response:

Denied. Doors must be hinged and have a gas mechanism to keep them open.

15. Page 18 / Section 14.1 Service Compartments and Access Doors-Interior

Access doors for the door actuator compartments shall be secured with hand screws, latches, or

crossrecessed, head screws, and shall prevent entry of mechanism lubricant into the bus interior.

New Flyer requests approval to provide access to the exit door actuator compartment from behind the

light panels which are retained by clips. This is done to provide a seamless feature of the light panels for

a esthetically pleasing interior bus design.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

16. Page 18 / Section 14.1 Service Compartments and Access Doors-Interior

The rear compartment door will have another access door incorporated into it for battery charging

plug in access.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a charging access point on the streetside of the bus via the

heater access door. Please refer to drawing 514748 for more information

IPTC Response:

The external charging unit may be located on either side of the vehicle, and the charge port on the

vehicle should be located to facilitate charger connection. Vendor may install a single port (or set

of ports) on the rear of the vehicle, or install duplicate ports on both sides. Installing ports only

on one side of the vehicle is not approved.

17. Page 18 / Section 14.1 Service Compartments and Access Doors-Exterior

Doors with top hinges shall have safety props stored behind the door or on the doorframe. All

access doors shall be retained in the open position by counterbalancing with over-center or gas-

filled springs.

New Flyer requests approval to provide doors with top hinges that use gas struts on large doors and over-

center springs on small doors.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

18. Page 18 / Section 14.1 Service Compartments and Access Doors-Exterior

A counterbalance or spring system should operate large doors but, if not practicable, a powered-

assist device may be used, provided it is equipped with an emergency system to open the doors

manually in less than 30 seconds.

New Flyer requests approval to provide large access doors that have gas struts which do not require a

counterbalance to remain open

IPTC Response:

Approved.

19. Page 19 Sec. 15.2/Passengers Doors-Middle & Rear Door Mechanism

The middle and rear doors shall be electrically operated and use a sliding-plug mechanism to

avoid impacting passengers waiting inside or outside of the bus.

New Flyer requests IPTC to clarify if the doors are allowed to protrude more than 0.5" when the doors are

IPTC Response:

The doors may protrude more than 0.5” when open. However, the sliding-plug mechanism should

keep the doors tight against the body of the bus when opening. The doors should protrude no

more than 6 inches when open.

20. Page 19 Section 15.3 Front Door Mechanism

The front door shall be operated by an electric operator, having integral controls for the

adjustment of door closing speed, cushioning upon door opening to prevent slamming, and door

closing speed, a CLASS series with proximity switches manufactured by Bode Corporation or

approved equal.

New Flyer requests approval to provide our standard Vapor slide glide entrance door. Please refer to the

attached document detailing the entrance door.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

21. Page 20 Section 15.6 Passenger’s Door Control Devices

Each of the middle and rear doors shall come equipped with a lighted passenger activated button

on both the inside and outside surfaces of the doors for passengers to open the doors when

allowed by the lockout system and the vehicle operator. The button shall illuminate when the

vehicle operator and the lockout system has enabled the door to be opened. This will allow doors

to only open upon request during times of adverse weather, such as extreme heat or cold, to

maintain battery capacity.

New Flyer wishes to point out that a location of an exterior activation button will be require to be a set

distance away from the outer edge of the opened plug door to ensure the passenger boarding the bus

does not get struck with the door opening.

Another option for IPTC would to require the exit doors to be a Slide Glide style which would open to the

interior of the bus which will allow the passenger activation button to be locate closer to the exit door

frames. Please confirm if the slide glide exit door would be better suited for IPTC's configuration while

using the activation button.

IPTC Response:

IPTC wishes to use a sliding-plug mechanism. Per #19, this door should not protrude more than 6

inches when open, minimizing the potential to impact any passengers waiting on the platform. A

slide-glide door could potentially impact passengers inside the bus.

22. Page 21 Section 16.1 Lighting Specifications

Turn signal lights shall be provided on both sides of the bus recessed to provide no protrusion

from the side of the body.

New Flyer advises that recessed turn signal lights are not an available option. New Flyer has a concern

that recessed lights would be a detriment to the visibility of said lights. New Flyer requests to removal of

this requirement.

IPTC Response:

Approved, with limitation. No portion of turn signal lights should be less than 15 inches from the

ground and lights should protrude no more than 1 inch from the body.

23. Page 22 Section 16.3 Passenger Interior Lighting

An overhead Dinex IO Controls LED lighting system or approved equal shall provide general

illumination in the passenger compartment and shall be controlled independent of the run switch.

New Flyer requests approval to provide our TCB interior LED light system. Please refer to the attached

document detailing this system.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

24. . Page 23&24 Section 17.2&17.4 Hand Controls & Driver’s Switches & Controls

17.2: Turn signal controls shall be floor mounted, foot controlled, waterproof, heavy duty,

momentary contact switches.

17.4: Turn Signal Switches – foot controlled, waterproof (no identifier required)

17.4: Foot Controlled Headlight Dimmer Switch – waterproof (no identifier required)

New Flyer requests approval to provide turn signal switches which are water resistant.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

25. Page 25 Section 18 Interior Trim

All plastic and synthetic materials used inside the bus shall be fire resistant

New Flyer request clarification on whether the interior of the coach needs to meet Docket 90 standards or

FMVSS 302 regulation. New Flyer advises there is a significant upcharge for Docket 90 interiors.

IPTC Response:

FMVSS 302 is acceptable.

26. Page 25 Section 18.1 Interior Trim- Trim Panels

Interior side-trim panels and driver’s barrier shall be melamine material.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a driver's barrier that is part of the Secure Diagnostic Center

which is made of fiberglass. Please refer to the attached document detailing the SDS (driver's barrier)

IPTC Response:

Approved.

27. Page 25 Section 18.2 Interior Trim- Headlining

Ceiling panels shall be 1/10-inch thick melamine.

New Flyer requests approval to provide ceiling panels that are made from thermal plastic which are

formed to the contours of the ceiling, minimizing noise and deflection.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

28. Page 25 Section 18.2 Interior Trim- Headlining

Noise deadening material added to achieve required decibel levels mentioned later in this

document.

New Flyer requests clarification on what the noise levels as there is no mention later in the document.

IPTC Response:

IPTC prefers a noise level of 25 dB or lower. If vendor cannot achieve that, they should clearly

state what the noise level is that they are able to achieve, which will be considered in the proposal

scoring.

29. Page 26 Section 18.5 Articulation Joint Insulating Materials

The vehicle shall be equipped with insulating materials lining the articulation joint. This insulation

is intended to reduce the heat and sound transfer between the interior and exterior of the vehicle.

New Flyer request approval to remove this requirement as the articulation joint vendor does not provide

insulation joint.

IPTC Response:

See below photo for what IPTC is seeking. This is from the Austin CapMetro rapid. It does not

need to be integral to the joint, it may be added by the vehicle manufacturer as part of the finishes

of the bus.

30. Page 26 Section 19.2 Passenger Information and Advertising-Signage

Insurance document holder shall be mounted directly behind driver’s seat on barrier

New Flyer requests clarification on the size of the Insurance document holder

IPTC Response:

Holder should be 8.5 inches wide by at least 4 inches tall.

31. Page 27 Section 20.3 Seat Construction and Materials

European style seating similar to Kiel IDEO or approved equal shall be used for passenger

seating.

New Flyer requests approval to provide one of the following New Flyer preferred seating manufacturers:

4One using the Gemini seat

American Seating using Insight Prime seat

IPTC Response:

Either of these proposed seats are acceptable.

32. Page 27 Section 21.1 Passengers Aides-Exit Signal

The “Stop Requested” sign shall be installed in the front ceiling of the center aisle of the bus.

New Flyer requests clarification if IPTC requires a stop request sign after the articulating joint.

IPTC Response:

Yes, signs should be placed in two locations, one behind the operator and one behind the

articulation joint.

33. Page 28 Section 21.4 Loading Ramp System

A loading ramp system, latest model Lift-U Dual Mode LU18 (6:1 Slope) or approved equal shall

provide ingress and egress quickly, safely, and comfortably for a passenger in a mobility air from

the street level or curb via the front door.

New Flyer requests approval to provide New Flyer's patented best in class 1:7 wheel chair ramp See

attached document detailing the New Flyer ramp.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

34. Page 28 Section 21.5 Mobility Aid Securement

This is a BRT vehicle, so most passengers will be boarding via a level platform at the middle door

New Flyer requests clarification on whether bridge plates will be required so that passengers with mobility

aids such as wheelchairs can enter on the doors without the wheel chair ramp. New Flyer wishes to

clarify that a bus cannot pull up to a platform without creating a gap at the door way. New Flyer would

also like to clarify that the requirement of the station rub surface will create a gap at the doorway.

IPTC Response:

IPTC has done extensive testing to make sure that ADA-compliant gaps are possible without

bridge plates. This is through a combination of design tweaks on the station approaches and

rubber “fingers” along the edge of the platform that can fill a gap up to 3 inches. Therefore, no

built-in bridge plates are needed. However, IPTC will equip each vehicle with a manual bridge

plate that the operator can put into place in the event of a poor station approach. This manual

bridge plate does not need to be included in this procurement.

35. Page 29 Section 22.3 Outside Rearview Mirrors

To avoid striking waiting passengers, both mirrors shall be a high mount and forward located

configuration, similar to the Rosco Performa Style or approved equal. No portion shall be less

than 87.5 inches from the roadway surface.

New Flyer requests approval to provide the exterior mirror design as depicted in the attached documents

which is provided by Hadley.

IPTC Response:

Denied. The forward mounted mirrors are required to prevent passengers waiting on the platform

from being struck.

Street side mirror shall be a low mount and curb side mirror shall be a high mount.

New Flyer requests IPTC to remove the requirement for street side low mount as it conflicts with the "both

mirrors shall be high mount" requirement stated in the RFP.

IPTC Response:

This is an error in the Technical Specs. IPTC concurs that both mirrors shall be high-mount and

the low street side mirror requirement should be removed.

Total width of bus including outside mirror shall not exceed (10’) ten feet.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a bus that is 10 feet 2 inches in width including mirrors. Having

the mirrors inset more than the current mount would reduce the amount of effective viewing.

IPTC Response:

Denied, per #35, the mirrors must be high and forward mounted.

38. Page 30 Section 22.4 Gap Mirrors

The vehicle shall be equipped with two small mirrors to provide the driver a clear view of the gap

between the vehicle and the platform. The mirrors shall be positioned to provide an enlarged view

of the platform/bus interface, assuming a 15-inch platform height. Mirrors shall be located on both

the left and right sides of the vehicle.

New Flyer wishes IPTC to clarify the effectiveness of using "two small mirrors" to align a 60 foot coach to

a level platform. New Flyer does not understand how a small mirror will help align the end of a 60 foot

IPTC Response:

IPTC agrees that this requirement is not clear. IPTC desires that both outside rearview mirrors

include both a flat mirror for rear views AND a convex mirror which offers views of the

platform/bus gap, similar to shown below. The convex mirror should be adjustable to allow

improved visibility of the gap distance that may not be visible from the operator’s seat.

39. Page 30 Section 22.5 Inside Mirrors

These shall consist of minimum:

8.25” x 16” on destination sign compartment lower closeout, 6” round flat mirror on header door

for review of bike rack deployment, 12” convex at exit door step, and a 7” x 7” convex mirror

located at right hand side of 8.25” x 16” mirror.

New Flyer requests clarification on why a mirror is required for a front mounted bike rack or is there a

requirement for a front mount bike rack as well as interior bike rack?

IPTC Response:

This is an error in the Technical Specs. IPTC agrees that no mirror is necessary for a front-

mounted bike rack, because no front-mounted bike rack is to be installed.

40. Page 30 Section 22.5 Inside Mirrors

Destination signs shall be “Luminator Horizon Gen 4 Spectrum Full Color system with LED

illumination”, or approved equal and in interest of standardization, shall utilize the following

components.

16 rows by 160 columns full matrix formatted Front Destination sign

16 rows by 48 columns full matrix Run Number

New Flyer wishes to clarify that the Luminator Horizon system comes in either amber or white, not full

color.

If full color signs are required, Luminator's Spectrum front destination sign size is 16 rows x 112 columns.

Or New Flyer can provide the Luminator Titan Gen 4 full color LED which is 24 rows x 200 columns.

New Flyer requests approval to provide the Luminator front run number (route) sign which is 12 rows X 40

columns.

Please confirm if amber or full colored signs are required.

IPTC Response:

IPTC agrees that this requirement is not clear, and should be replaced by the following text:

Destination signs shall be “Luminator Spectrum Titan Full Color system with LED illumination”, or

approved equal and in interest of standardization, shall utilize the following components.

24 rows by 200 columns full matrix formatted Front Destination sign

14 rows by 96 columns full matrix Run Number

41. Page 31 Section 22.3 Destination Sign System Display

The displays shall consist of amber colored LEDs.

New Flyer requests IPTC to clarify whether a "full color system" as specified in section TS 23.1 or amber

colored LEDS as specified in section 23.4

IPTC Response:

This should be full color, see #40.

42. Page 31 Section 23.4 Front Destination Signs

The front destination sign display shall have no less than 2560 LEDs 16 rows by 160 columns,

with a message display area of not less than 8.0 inches high by not less than 64.6 inches wide.

If full color signs are required, Luminator's Spectrum front destination sign size is 16 rows x 112 columns.

Or New Flyer can provide the Luminator Titan Gen 4 full color LED which is 24 rows x 200 columns.

Please confirm if amber or full colored signs are required.

IPTC Response:

This is an error in the Technical Specs. See #40.

43. Page 41 Section 30.1 Axle Requirements

Front axle shall be a fixed solid beam axle as manufactured by Arvin Meritor or approved equal.

New Flyer requests approval for the front axle to be provide the M.A.N. Please refer to the attached

documents detailing the M.A.N. front axle

IPTC Response:

Approved.

44. Page 43 Section 33.4 Air System

The air compressor shall be a Wabco or approved equal.

New Flyer requests approval to provide the Powerex direct coupled scroll air compressor. Please refer to

drawing 566993 for more information.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

Nylon tubing shall be installed in

accordance with the following color-coding standard.

· Green: Indicates primary brakes and supply

· Red: Indicated secondary brakes

· Brown: Indicated parking brakes

· Black: Indicated accessories.

New Flyer requests approval to add the following colors:

Yellow - Compressor governor signal

Blue - Suspension

IPTC Response:

Approved.

Nylon lines may be grouped and shall be continuously supported.

New Flyer wishes IPTC to clarify what "continuously supported means". APTA white book recommends

shall be supported at 30 inch intervals or less.

IPTC Response:

Supports every 30 inches or less is acceptable.

A Wabco or approved equal desiccant dryer with heater, with silencer, or approved equal, shall be

installed and protected against road dirt and wheel splash.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a Haldex Gemini Air Dryer. Please see attachment document

describing the benefits for this air dryer.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

48. Page 44 Section 34.2 General Chassis-Tires

The exterior surface of each outer tire on each side must be on the same plane as each other, and

must be a consistent distance from the side plane of the body. The tires will be used to position

the vehicle against the station platform.

New Flyer requests approval to remove this specification requirement. The tires are not on the same

plane from the front to the center and to the rear. This is inherent to the design of the coach. New Flyer

does not recommend this type of alignment to the platform as this will cause undue damage to the tires.

IPTC Response:

See #6. Tires which are significantly out-of-plane with one another would not allow an ADA

compliant gap.

49. Page 45 Section 35.4 Bumper System-Station Rub Surface

The vehicle shall have a strip of material highly resistant to wear along the length. This material

may be either a wear-resistant paint or a thin mechanically fastened strip of material. This strip

should extend the length of the vehicle from the 15-inch floor height down to roughly 13-inches

from the ground.

New Flyer requests approval to remove this requirement as we do not recommend consistent rubbing of

the bus body along the station platform as this could cause serious body damage and continuous body

repairs.

IPTC Response:

This is not approved, see #34. This wear surface will only be expected to withstand the wear of

soft rubber fingers that act like a brush extended from the platform. It is not expected to

withstand being rubbed against concrete or another hard material.

50. Page 46 Section 37.1 Interior Climate Control

The cooling mode shall be capable of reducing the passenger compartment temperature from 100

degrees F to 80 degrees F in less than 30 minutes after the engine start up under the following

conditions.

New Flyer requests approval to provide APTA default for HVAC pull-down specification where passenger

compartment temperature shall be reduced from 115°F to 95°F in less than 20 minutes. With battery

buses that are plugged into chargers when at the depot, there is a unique opportunity to pre-condition the

cabin with the buses connected to shore power in a more gradual way to minimize peak demand but still

maintain a maximum possible HV battery State of Charge upon pull-out. Since these buses are zero-

emissions, there is no need to limit the "idle time" during pull-down prior to pull-out thus no need for

exceptional pull down capacity or speed. Sizing a system for the APTA alternative Pull-Down

specifications for hotter ambient conditions, causes the system to be oversized for the actual required

demand in revenue service which increases the system cost and reduces system efficiency which in turn

negatively affects range. The default pull down specification ensures sufficient cooling capacity to perform

necessary duties when in service.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

51. Page 46 Section 37.1 Interior Climate Control

The door opening average is every 2 minutes; the A/C must be capable of handling the heat load

by maintaining a temperature of 20 degrees less than ambient and humidity level less than 40% at

any point or time with 40 plus passengers at 100 degrees in direct sun light.

New Flyer can not confirm or deny that we meet this section as we do not currently have testing for the

bus design which will be proposed. New Flyer is committed to working with IPTC if awarded to determine

our ability to meet the intent of the specification.

IPTC Response:

Vendor should provide heat load calculations supporting that their design should meet this

specification.

52. Page 20 Section 15.5 Operator’s Door Control Devices

The driver shall control the passenger doors through a five-position control device with a

removable handle, as manufactured by Bode Corporation or approved equal.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a Vapor 5-position door controller. Please refer to the attached

documentation.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

53. Page 22 Section 16.2 Service Area Lighting

A switch located near the rear start controls in the engine compartment shall control the lights.

New Flyer requests to remove the requirement for a rear start control I the engine compartment. There is

no true "engine" compartment on the New Flyer electric bus. At the rear of the bus on the street side,

switches are provided to activate the service lighting and a switch to select the coolant fill modes

IPTC Response:

Approved.

54. Page 22 Section 16.2 Service Area Lighting

Necessary lights, located in the other service compartments, shall be provided with momentary

contact switches on the light fixture or convenient to the light.

New Flyer's requests approval to provide service lights which are provided with maintained switches. New

Flyer provides a service light relay that controls the supply of power to all service lights, the lights aren't

supplied power from individual multiplexing outputs that latch on.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

55. Page 23 Section 17.3 Instrumentation

Speedometer, air pressure gauge(s), battery temperature, voltmeter, and certain indicator lights

shall be located on the front cowl immediately ahead of the steering wheel.

New Flyer provides a high battery temperature indicator that's amber in color, please refer to the attached

drawing 548421 for further information. We don't provide a gauge for the High Voltage battery

temperature.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

56. Page 24 Section 17.3 Instrumentation

All systems need to be capable to integrate with the Dines G-3 systems or equivalent for

centralized reporting, error trapping, documentation, and capable of wireless communication.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a Vansco Multiplexing system with the following benefits:

- The Vansco modules are auto-programming making it very easy to replace or add multiplexing modules

- The Vansco Multiplexing system uses a single type of module minimizing required inventory

- The outputs on our system can drive loads up to 10 amps and are electronically self protected. This

reduces the number of fuses or breakers required.

- The Vansco Multiplexing module has an IP rating of 66

- The Vansco Multiplexing module has a operating temperature range of -40F to 185F.

Please see the attached document for further information on the benefits of the Vansco Multiplexing

system.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

57. Page 24 Section 17.4 Driver’s Switches and Controls

Diagnostic Light Panel Switch (es)

During engine startup the Vansco instrument cluster initiate an indicator test. Therefore New Flyer

request approval to provide this functionality in lieu of the requirement for an additional test switch.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

58. Page 31 Section 23.2 Interior Information Monitors

Four (4) programmable interior information monitors with audio will be installed in approved

areas. All monitors will work with CAD/Avl systems. Monitors shall be Luminator INFO transit

series or approved equal.

Please note that depending on the interior layout of the proposed bus, we may not be able to fit 4

monitors on the interior. We will quote 4 but will have to work with IPTC to determine locations and

quantity after award

IPTC Response:

Approved.

59. Page 45 Section 36.1 Electrical Supply Wiring and Terminals

A multiplex electrical system, provided by Dinex I/O Controls is required, or it’s approved equal.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a Vansco Multiplexing system with the following benefits:

- The Vansco modules are auto-programming making it very easy to replace or add multiplexing modules

- The Vansco Multiplexing system uses a single type of module minimizing required inventory

- The outputs on our system can drive loads up to 10 amps and are electronically self protected. This

reduces the number of fuses or breakers required.

- The Vansco Multiplexing module has an IP rating of 66

- The Vansco Multiplexing module has a operating temperature range of -40F to 185F.

Please see the attached document for further information on the benefits of the Vansco Multiplexing

system.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

Please specify a UPS for the on board radio, video, and GPS systems to be installed in the cabinet

behind the driver.

New Flyer requests approval to use a battery management system to provide power for the on board

radio, video and GPS systems when the bus is not running to ensure adequate power is available. Please

refer to the attached document detailing the battery management system.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

All wiring between major electrical components and terminations, except battery wiring, shall

have double electrical insulation, shall be waterproof, and shall meet specification requirements

of SAE recommended Practice J555 and J878 – Type SXL.

New Flyer requests approval to provide type GXL wiring in our harnesses. Described below are the

benefits of this wiring:

- GXL wiring is built to meet the requirements of SAE J1128

- The insulation is fabricated out of cross linked polyethylene which is a durable thermoset capable of

withstanding the harsh environments present on heavy duty vehicles

- GXL wiring is intended for use in engine compartments where higher heat resistance is required

according to SAE J-1128, this allows the wiring to be used throughout the coach

- The operating temperature range for this wiring is -60F to 257F

- GXL wiring works with most standard electrical connectors

IPTC Response:

Approved.

Double insulation shall be maintained and close to the terminals as practicable.

New Flyer requests approval to provide double insulation on all wiring except for wiring that is within an

electrical panel. These panels would be the side console, rear panel, fuse box, switch box, exit door

panels and SDS panel.

Listed below is why New Flyer does not provide double insulation for wiring within the electrical panels:

- Clamps and tie wraps are strategically positioned which minimizes harness movement and the

opportunity for harness chaffing

- All sharp edges near the harness routing is covered with a protective rubber channel eliminating the

possibility of the wiring insulation getting damaged

IPTC Response:

Approved.

T-splices may be used when it is less than 25,000 circular mills of copper in cross section; a

mechanical clamp is used in addition to solder on the splice; and the wire is supported to prevent

flexing.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a T-splice on the 2 ga. cable which supplies power from the joint

to the electrical panels in the front of the coach.

Testing data shows that with our specialized high current “T” splice actually has less resistance than the

continuous cable. Using the "T" also provides for less cables running through the coach, lowering the

possibility of power cables chaffing.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

64. Page 47 Section 38.2 Wi-Fi

The vehicle shall be equipped with a dual-sim public Wi-Fi system to be used for IPTC data

communication needs and as public Wi-Fi for passengers.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a In Motion Wi-Fi system. Please refer to the attached

documentation describing this product

IPTC Response:

Approved.

65. Page 14 Section 9.6 Material Quality

The electrical connections exposed to water, salt, brine, or any other corrosive material exposed

to water or air must be encapsulated or protected.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a bus where there are many ring terminal connection points that

are not encapsulated. To protect these connection points from corrosion we apply dielectric grease after

the correct torque has been applied.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

66. Page 47 Section 38.1 Radios

Vehicle shall be equipped with a Motorola XTL2500 Voice Radio system, with:

New Flyer wishes to clarify that the XTL2500 radio is no longer available to purchase. Will IPTC be

providing radios from older buses? If not, please provide details for another preferred radio.

IPTC Response:

Vendor may omit this requirement.

67. Page 48 Section 38.7 Surveillance Equipment

The system shall consist of eight (11) cameras on each vehicle.

Please clarify how many cameras are required, 8 or 11?

IPTC Response:

This is an error in the Tech Specs. Eleven (11) cameras are required.

68. Page 9 TS / TS 7 Warranties

A basic bus “bumper-to-bumper” warranty shall commence on the date the bus is placed into

service by IPTC and shall continue in effect thereafter for a period of two years or 100,000 miles

whichever occurs first.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a bus which is warranted and guaranteed to be free from defects

and related defects for two years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first, beginning on the date of

acceptance of each bus.

The warranty shall not apply to scheduled maintenance items, acts of nature, or normal consumables

such as tires, belts, bulbs/tubes or items with progressive wear characteristics (bushings, wiper blades,

friction surfaces). Please refer to the attached consumables excluded document.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

69. Page 9 TS / TS 7.1 Propulsion Systems and Major Sub Systems

Specific subsystems and components of the coaches furnished under this Contract will be

warranted and guaranteed to be free from defects in design, material and workmanship for the

period of time beyond the basic warranty. These include:

ITEM YEARS

· Propulsion System/Drive Axle - 12 years

· Battery System - 12 years

· Heat Pump/AC - 5 years

· Leaks (water leaks from bus washer or rain) - 8 years

New Flyer requests approval to provide the following whichever occurs first warranties:

Propulsion System - Specifically the traction system, controllers/inverters, and gear box - Contractor

requests approval to provide a warranty of 2-years/unlimited miles with a purchased limited extended

warranty of 3 years/300,000 miles for a total of 5 years/300,000 miles (whichever occurs first) . The

extended warranty only covers components as specified by the manufacturer's warranty documents.

Drive and Non Drive Axles - 5 year/300,000 mile (whichever occurs first) MAN limited axle warranty.

Please refer to the attached MAN warranty documents for coverage & exclusions.

Battery System - New Flyer requests approval to provide a energy storage system components warranty

of 5 years. The warranty only covers components as specified by the manufacturer's warranty

documents. Please refer to the attached energy storage system components warranty documents for

warranty coverage and exclusions.

Heat Pump/AC - 2 years/unlimited miles

Leaks (water leaks from bus washer or rain) - 3 years/150,000 miles

IPTC Response:

The vendor should include extended warranties as needed to achieve the warranties specified in

the RFP. If a specified warranty cannot be met, Vendor should summarize (in an attachment to

their proposal) any discrepancy between the proposed warranty and the warranty specified in the

RFP. IPTC will weigh those warranties in the scoring of the proposals.

70. Page 9 TS / TS 7.2 Coaches Removed from Service Due to Warranty Failure

Coaches which have been removed from service due to a warranty failure for periods exceeding

seven (7) days shall have the warranty time extended for the time the coach was not in service.

New Flyer will work with the IPTC to perform warranty repairs in an efficient and timely manner and will

make every attempt to get the bus repaired and back into service to meet the seven-day timeframe,

however, due to the variable degree of the warranty repair complexity, we cannot guarantee this. In

addition, we cannot extend the warranty on components due to some suppliers not extending warranties

to New Flyer.

IPTC Response:

In this situation, Vendor should extend all warranties in which they are in control.

71. Page 10 TS / TS 7.6 Detection and Correction of Defects / TS 7.10 Repair Performance

Where IPTC detects a minor defect within the warranty period, IPTC may elect to repair such

defect and submit a form for reimbursement. If IPTC detects a major defect within the warranty

periods, IPTC at its sole option, may elect to repair such defect and submit a form for

reimbursement or may elect to notify the Contractor.

Some warranty work may be done by IPTC’s personnel with reimbursement by the Contractor at a

rate of $75.00 per hour. IPTC shall determine who performs repairs at its sole option.

New Flyer will work with IPTC on warranty covered repairs, but the majority of the warranty repairs should

be performed by IPTC trained personnel with reimbursement by New Flyer.

In saying this, please be advised that the following major component equipment suppliers (propulsion

system, batteries (energy storage system), HVAC and destination sign suppliers) mandate that all

warranty repairs be performed by an authorized dealer of their components (and not New Flyer or IPTC).

If IPTC elects to perform these repairs, without the written permission of the original equipment

manufacturer, the remaining warranty coverage may be voided.

Please note that New Flyer will be available to work with IPTC on major equipment repairs to ensure

service quality expectations are met and work is conducted in an acceptable timeframe.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

72. Page 10 TS / TS 7.7 Fleet Defects

A fleet defect is defined as the failure of or a deficiency in identical systems or

components of the coach caused by defective design, material or workmanship in twenty percent

(20%) of the base quantity of coaches delivered under this Contract. In the event of a fleet defect

during the warranty period, the Contractor will furnish promptly all necessary labor and material

to affect such repairs and modifications for every vehicle delivered under the Contract pursuant to

the terms and conditions of this warranty and at Contractor’s sole cost and expense.

New Flyer requests approval to provide fleet defect coverage for the limited base bus warranty period of

2-years/100,000 miles (whichever occurs first).

Fleet defect warranty does not apply to normal wear-and-tear items, contract specified components, or

major components (propulsion system, batteries and HVAC). Major component manufacturers will not

recognize and/or participate in fleet defect clauses. However, if the fleet defect specified percentage is

reached on a major component, New Flyer will fully support and shall assist IPTC with obtaining a remedy

from the major component manufacturer. If a remedy to a Fleet Defect proposed by the manufacturer is

not acceptable to IPTC, acting reasonably, New Flyer shall use commercially reasonable efforts to work

with the major component manufacturer to develop an alternative remedy that is acceptable to IPTC,

acting reasonably.

IPTC Response:

This is allowable, but may result in a lower evaluation score, per #69.

73. Page 10 TS / TS 7.9 Single Representative / TS 7.10 Repair Performance

The Contractor shall designate a single representative through which warranties shall be

handled. The representatives shall meet as needed with the IPTC’s representative or project

manager for review of repairs and claims. The representative shall handle all facets of warranty

processing and warranty material handling. Failure of the Contractor to meet with IPTC will not

relieve their obligation to comply with all warranty requirements set forth in the contract, or to

reimburse IPTC for repairs made during the warranty period.

IPTC will require the Contractor or its designated representative to perform warranty-covered

repairs on-site for up to one year or more.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a Regional Product Support Manager to work with IPTC on

warranty related issues as needed. The Regional Product Support Manager is available via phone or e-

mail and normally responds within 24 hours. If New Flyer representation is required on-site, New Flyer will

have on-site support available within 5 business days. New Flyer requests approval to provide this in lieu

of having full-time service personnel on-site.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

74. Page 11 TS / TS 7.11 Repair by Contractor

Any warranty work performed under this Contract shall be completed within seven (7)

calendar days after the Contractor has begun repairs on the coach that has been removed from

revenue service due to a warranty defect. If repairs are not completed within the specified time

periods, IPTC may assess liquidated damages.

New Flyer requests approval to perform warranty repairs in an efficient and timely manner and will make

every attempt to meet the seven day timeframe, however, due to the possible degree warranty repair

complexity, we cannot guarantee this or agree to pay liquidated damages on warranty repairs. Liquidated

damages on warranty repairs is not an industry standard.

IPTC Response:

Approved, with clarification. For any repair that is expected to take longer than 7 days, Vendor

will be expected to propose and commit to a completion date. In the event that completion dates

are not met, Liquidated Damages would then be assessed.

75. Page 12 TS / TS 7.11 Repair by Contractor / TS 7.13 Reimbursements

At IPTC’s sole discretion or may be required to perform the work off IPTC property. The

Contractor shall be responsible for any costs associated with transporting the coach to and from

IPTC property.The cost of towing the coach, if such action is necessary, shall also be

reimbursable, whether done by IPTC employees or by an outside contractor. Towing

reimbursement shall remain in effect throughout the warranty period.

New Flyer requests approval to cover reasonable towing costs and provide this during the base bus

warranty period of two (2) years or 100,000 miles, whichever occurs first.

IPTC Response:

76. Page 11 TS / TS 7.12 Repair by the IPTC

The Contractor may request that parts covered by the warranty be returned to the

manufacturing plant. Request for return of defective parts/components must be made within thirty

(30) calendar days after submittal of Warranty Claim. IPTC may request

Contractor to verify that part/component is defective prior to shipment. The total cost of

verification and shipment shall be paid by the Contractor. Materials will be returned freight collect.

Should the Contractor find that the part/component was not defective after it has been returned to

the Contractor, Contractor shall notify IPTC and obtain disposition instructions for the

part/component. Should IPTC request that part/component be returned to IPTC, IPTC shall pay for

shipping cost.

New Flyer requests approval to provide all failed components to be returned within 45 days from the date

of failure in order for the warranty claim to be considered valid.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

77. Page 11 TS / TS 7.13 Reimbursements

IPTC shall be reimbursed by the Contractor for labor. The reimbursement amount shall be

determined by multiplying the number of work hours actually required to diagnose and correct the

defect by the current labor rate (inclusive of benefits) in effect at the time of repair, plus forty

percent (40%) overhead and administrative charges.

New Flyer requests approval to provide the labor hours to be determined using New Flyer's Standard

Repair Time Manual, please refer to the attached document. If the labor hours for a particular repair are

not listed in the Manual, the labor hours will be negotiated between IPTC and New Flyer’s Regional

Product Support Manager (RPSM). New Flyer would like to clarify that reimbursement shall not include

diagnostic time and administrative charges.

Diagnostic time & administrative time are not an industry standard and a non-recoverable expense and

impossible to predict the cost impact during the bid stage.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

78. Page 12 TS / TS 7.13 Reimbursements

IPTC shall be reimbursed by the Contractor for defective parts and for parts that must be

replaced to correct the defect. The reimbursement amount shall be the actual IPTC cost of the

part(s) at the time of repair calculated from IPTC’s purchase order or inventory charge-out ledger

and shall include taxes where applicable plus fifteen percent (15%) handling costs.

New Flyer requests approval to reimburse IPTC for parts at the current published price plus taxes and

handling for the base bus warranty period and that the handling costs are capped at $100/claim.

IPTC Response:

79. Page 12 TS /TS 7.13 Reimbursements

Method - Warranty reimbursement shall be made through a warranty claim form. IPTC will

provide the following information on such form:

· IPTC coach number affected IPTC repair code

· Date defect detected Total claim value

· Mileage

· IPTC work order number

· Labor hours and labor costs

· Defect

· Description of parts used and price Repair

· IPTC part number

All other information requested by the Contractor shall be Contractor’s responsibility.

New Flyer requests approval for IPTC to use New Flyer’s easy to use iWarranty system. With New Flyer’s

iWarranty system, IPTC can submit warranty claims on-line. When required, IPTC can process ‘bus down’

parts through iWarranty and coordinate shipments of parts to the requested location. New Flyer will

reimburse IPTC for parts and labor within sixty (60) days of receipt of an approved warranty claim. Other

additional benefits of New Flyer’s iWarranty system include:

• Instant access to an electronic copy of your warranty;

• Self-service reporting capabilities, run standard reports or build your own custom reports;

• Tracking of warranty claims on a bus-by-bus basis;

• Visibility into the date your claims were paid along with the check number;

• Status updates on parts requests;

• Online maintenance of your warranty account information

Please refer to the attached iWarranty brochure for additional information.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

80. Page 13 TS / TS 9 Body and Chassis Structure

The structural integrity of any bus furnished under this Contract shall be warranted for a

full one hundred percent (100%) on both parts and labor to be free from material, design and

workmanship for a period of up to twelve (12) years miles, after the vehicle is placed into revenue

operation with no proration. A defect in the structural integrity of the basic body is defined as

defects in the chassis, body and/or frame, suspension and axles, which results in any premature

fatigue.

New Flyer requests approval to provide to define the structural integrity as the body and body structure

which consists of the components that are bolted or riveted to the structure, such as, exterior panels,

interior panels, roof, ceiling, and driver’s barrier. The body and body structure are warranted to be free

from defects, related defects, and to maintain structural integrity for three years or 150,000 miles,

whichever comes first.

Chassis Structure, Consists of all components that are welded together to form the main frame (skeleton)

and body construction, and are warranted against corrosion failure and/or fatigue failure sufficient to

cause a Class 1 failure for a period of 12 (twelve) years or 500,000 miles, whichever comes first.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

81. Page 34 TS / TS 25 Energy Storage System (ESS)

The proposal shall also include a 12-year warranty and a comprehensive statement of the

warranty terms relating to the batteries, including explanation of all disclaimers within the

warranty.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a energy storage system (battery packs) warranty of 5 years.

The warranty only covers components as specified by the manufacturer's warranty documents. Please

refer to the attached energy storage system warranty document for warranty coverage and exclusions.

IPTC Response:

82. Page 49 TS 39 Technical Manual Updates

The Contractor shall keep all maintenance manuals, parts manuals, and related technical

documentation up to date and available to IPTC at no charge for a minimum period of twelve (12)

years after the date of acceptance of the coaches furnished under this contract.

New Flyer requests approval to supply updates to New Flyer published technical manuals only. This does

not include OEM component supplier documents. It is the responsibility of each OEM component supplier

to maintain the content in their documents and New Flyer does not have control of each OEM's process.

New Flyer also requests approval to provide Bus Parts Manuals which are maintained for a period of 12

years, all other Bus technical manuals are maintained for a period of 6 years. Bus manuals can be

updated with either revised PDF files on DVD or manual bulletins depending on the urgency of the issue.

Manual Bulletins are delivered in PDF format via email.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

83. Page 49 TS 39.2 Manuals-Schematics

For coaches furnished under this contract the Contractor shall provide the following

manuals to IPTC and for each make and model in the quantities specified within sixty (60)

calendar days of the date of acceptance of the first bus:

- Eight (8) current coach maintenance manuals including all air system, complete electrical,

multiplex schematics and diagrams. Four (4) manuals shall have all pages laminated in clear

plastic;

The electrical, air and hydraulic schematics are published in a separate and larger format manual than

the Bus Service Manual. New Flyer requests approval to provide the Vehicle Systems Drawings Manuals

published at 11x17 size and inserted into a durable plastic binder. This size ensures information is easily

read and interpreted and can be easily revised.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

84. Page 49 TS 39.2 Manuals-HVAC OEM supplier manuals

- Eight (8) current coach air conditioning system maintenance manuals (if not included in coach

manual) including all electrical and hydraulic schematics and diagrams. Four (4) manuals shall

have all pages laminated in clear plastic;

New Flyer requests approval to provide the HVAC OEM supplied manuals which are only available on

regular paper. New Flyer will purchase and supply the available HVAC OEM supplier maintenance

manuals.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

85. Page 49 TS 39.2 Manuals-Wheelchair Ramp OEM supplier manuals

- Four (4) current coach wheel chair ramp maintenance manuals (if not included in coach manual)

including all electrical and hydraulic schematics and diagrams. Four (4) manuals shall have all

pages laminated in clear plastic;

New Flyer requests approval to provide the Lift-U Wheelchair Ramp OEM supplier published manuals are

only available on regular paper.

If the buses are configured with the New Flyer wheelchair ramp then all information will be included within

the New Flyer published bus manuals which are available both on regular and plastic pages.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

86. Page 49 TS 39.2 Manuals-Bus Parts Manuals

- Eight (8) current coach part manuals applicable to the coaches provided under this contract,

including all subsystems and components, whether manufactured by the Contractor or purchased

ready made from an outside source. This manual shall include detailed dimensional drawings for

all glazing used in the coach (windows, windshield and doors) to allow future replacement.

The New Flyer requests approval to provide published bus parts manuals list all components on the bus

however, for further sub-component breakdowns on major components like the Engine and Propulsion

System New Flyer will purchase and supply those OEM component supplier published parts manuals.

OEM component published parts manuals are only available on regular paper. The Bus Parts Manuals

will not contain dimensional drawings of window glazing. They will contain proportional illustrations of the

window assemblies along with an associated parts list.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

87. Page 49 TS 39.2 Manuals- PDF format

- All Service and Parts Manuals furnished for the buses shall also be supplied in a PDF format on

CD-ROM disks to allow the information to be loaded into IPTC’s Materials Management

Information System. A total of six (6) CD-ROM sets will be supplied upon delivery of first bus.

The New Flyer requests approval to published bus manuals will be provided in PDF format however, only

the OEM published manuals that are made available by each OEM will be provided. The Bus manuals

are copyright protected and while they can be loaded to a network for internal use, more information will

need to be provided as to how the manual PDF files will be used in IPTC's Materials Management

Information system before New Flyer provides approval.

Available OEM component supplier manuals in PDF may also be copyright protected. It is important that

IPTC honors those individual copyrights unless IPTC obtains copyright release or agreement directly from

each supplier.

Delivery timeframe for technical manual PDF files will occur at the same time the manual is delivered

"Within 60 days of delivery and acceptance of the first bus"

IPTC Response:

Approved.

88. Page 41 TS 29 Power Plant Mounting

Offerer shall provide all specialty tools and diagnostic equipment for maintaining the

propulsion system in accordance with the Special Tools List.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a comprehensive list of recommended specialized tools and

diagnostic software/interface equipment, and said equipment be priced separately from the bus price.

This will ensure proper costing regardless of the number of buses in the base order, and each

subsequent delivery. This will also allow Indy Go the flexibility to order only those tools necessary for their

operation.

IPTC Response:

This is denied, but with clarification. Vendor should assume one set of tools for every 7 Buses,

and include 1/7th of the cost of a tool set within the bus unit price.

89. Page 50 TS 39.3 Training

A comprehensive hands-on training program for IPTC Operations and Maintenance staff

shall be provided by the Contractor and OEM for major components provided on the buses. The

minimum training program requirements are described below: Vehicle Operations - 8 hrs, Basic

Vehicle Orientation - 24 hrs, Bus Maintenance - 144 hrs, Bus Electrical - 144 hrs, HVAC System -

144 hrs, Destination Sign System - 24 hrs, Destination Sign Programming - 16 hrs, WC Ramp - 24

hrs, Parts Familiarization - 8 hrs.

New Flyer requests approval that all training be priced separately from the bus price. This will ensure

proper costing regardless of the number of buses in the base order, and each subsequent delivery. This

will also allow Indy Go the flexibility to order only those training necessary for their operation for each

individual order.

IPTC Response:

This is denied, but with clarification. Vendor should assume one complete training for every 10

Buses, and include 1/10th of the cost of a training session within the bus unit price.

90. Page 50 TS 39.3 Training

A comprehensive hands-on training program for IPTC Operations and Maintenance staff

shall be provided by the Contractor and OEM for major components provided on the buses. The

minimum training program requirements are described below: Vehicle Operations - 8 hrs, Basic

Vehicle Orientation - 24 hrs, Bus Maintenance - 144 hrs, Bus Electrical - 144 hrs, HVAC System -

144 hrs, Destination Sign System - 24 hrs, Destination Sign Programming - 16 hrs, WC Ramp - 24

hrs, Parts Familiarization - 8 hrs.

New Flyer requests approval to provide a training proposal showing pricing and number of hours for

individual courses. This would allow Indy Go the flexibility to select which courses and in what quantities

are required based on their operation.

IPTC Response:

This is denied, but with clarification. Vendor should assume one complete training for every 10

Buses, and include 1/10th of the cost of a training session within the bus unit price.

91. Acceptance

New Flyer requests approval to add the following language to the specification regarding

acceptance terms:

Within fifteen (15) calendar days after delivery of the vehicle to the IPTC, the IPTC shall conduct

acceptance tests on the vehicle. The acceptance tests to be conducted by the IPTC, and the criteria and

standards in respect of such tests, shall be agreed upon by the IPTC and the Contractor prior to the

Contractor building the vehicle. If the vehicle passes these tests or if the IPTC does not notify the

Contractor of non-acceptance within 15 calendar days after delivery of the vehicle, acceptance of the

vehicle by the IPTC shall be deemed to have occurred on the 15th day after delivery. Acceptance shall

occur earlier if the IPTC notifies the Contractor of early acceptance or places the vehicle into revenue

service.

IPTC Response:

This is approved only in the event that vehicles are delivered at a rate of no more than one per

week. IPTC cannot guarantee timely acceptance testing if the vehicles are delivered in batches.

92. Title

title:

Title to the vehicle shall pass to the IPTC upon acceptance of the vehicle by the IPTC.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

93. Risk of Loss

risk of loss:

The IPTC shall assume risk of loss of the vehicle on delivery. Prior to delivery, the Contractor shall have

risk of loss to the vehicle.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

94. Price Adjustments Due to Regulatory Changes

price adjustments due to regulatory changes:

Notwithstanding anything else to the contrary contained herein, in the event that a price adjustment is

required in respect of changes that are mandatory as a result of legislation or regulations that become

effective after the date of the tender submission, such price adjustment shall be negotiated in good faith

by the IPTC and the Contractor.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

95. Force Majeure

force majeure:

If the Contractor is delayed at any time during the performance of the work by the neglect or failure of the

IPTC or by delay or failure of the Contractor caused by an event beyond its control, including, but not

limited to, natural disasters, floods, fires, acts of war or terrorism, labor shortages, strikes or lock-outs or

shortages or loss of transportation, then the time for completion of the work and/or the delivery date shall

be extended by the IPTC by a reasonable period of time after such event of delay has ended in order that

the Contractor may complete the work or deliver the vehicle.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

96. Delays in Work Performed

New Flyer requests approval to add the following language to the specification regarding delays

in work performed:

The Contractor shall be allowed an equitable adjustment in the contract price and/or an extension of the

contract time, for any delays in work performed due to suspension of work requested by the IPTC, for any

reason.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

97. Waiver

waivers:

In the event that either party elects to waive its remedies for any breach by the other party of any

covenant, term or condition of the contract, such waiver shall not limit the waiving party's remedies for any

succeeding breach of that or any other term, covenant or condition of the contract.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

98. Page 2 / Addendum #1 / Preferred Cycle

If these conditions are not met, the Vendor will be obligated to provide an additional

vehicle and/or on-route charging at a later date and at their own cost.

New Flyer requests approval to remove this requirement. New Flyer will not provide an additional vehicle

and/or on-route charger at any point in time for this contract. It is not an industry practice to provide a free

vehicle and/or component when a specification cannot be met.

IPTC Response:

This requires clarification, the following should supersede the description in Addendum 1:

Vehicle range is a required performance specification for this solicitation. Not meeting this

performance specification would be considered a material breach of the contract and potential

impacts to service may require additional vehicles and/or additional charging infrastructure to

remedy.

99. Page 2 / Addendum #1 / Optional Cycle

If the vendor delivers vehicles that do not meet stated specifications, that Vendor will be

obligated to provide an additional vehicle and/or additional on-route charging at a later date and at

their own cost.

New Flyer requests approval to remove this requirement. New Flyer will not provide an additional vehicle

and/or on-route charger at any point in time for this contract. It is not an industry practice to provide a free

vehicle and/or component when a specification cannot be met.

IPTC Response:

This is denied. See #98.

100. Page 23 TS 17.3 / Instrumentation

Instruments and indicators immediately in front of the driver shall include but not limited

· Headlight high beam on

· Right turn signal

· Left turn signal

· Hazard warning (may be common with turn signal indicators)

· Exit door open or unlocked

· Parking brake applied

· Service brakes applied (may be common with parking brake)

· Error messages or flashing lights required for driver awareness.

· Onboard Diagnostics

New Flyer requests approval to locate instrumentation on the driver's side console panel where

applicable. Details would be provided in a driver control approval drawing prior to finalization of design

and commencement of build.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

101. Page 24 TS 17.3 / Instrumentation

Incidents need to be captured and recorded for further investigation via a print out or

downloadable file in an acceptable format such as Microsoft, Access, Word, or Excel. History will

be maintained on the bus in virtual memory. The on board file needs to include engine condition

and related safety failure information with a date and time stamp. The on board monitoring system

will be configurable and able to communicate too virtually any interface that can be adopted by

the customer.

New Flyer requests clarification of the intent of this data collection requirement as our base bus design

does not include a virtual memory function. Is this in fact referring to a separate data logger installation,

like the required Fleetwatch? If not, can customer provide more detail on what they are intending for the

OEM to provide?

IPTC Response:

The Vendor must include the telematics capability in the base cost of the bus.

102. Page 24 TS 17.3 / Driver Switches

Fast Idle Switch, Diagnostic Light Panel Switch

New Flyer requests approval to remove the requirement for a fast idle switch is not applicable to our

battery bus design.

Also, the instrument panel cluster we are proposing contains both an auto lamp test on start-up and a test

function that can be engaged anytime using diagnostic menu. Therefore, New Flyer requests approval to

not provide a separate diagnostic light panel switch is not required.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

103. Page 24 TS 17.3 / Driver Controls

Brake & Throttle Pedal Locating Controls

New Flyer requests clarification on what is meant by a locating control. Is this in fact referring to an

adjustable pedal switch? If this is the case, please note that our standard pedal assembly is such that

only the throttle position is adjustable in this manner.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

104. Page 22 TS 24.1 / Propulsion System Controller

Storage of the bus data file generated on a day to day basis, to include: duty cycle

information (time stamp, vehicle speed, elevation, location, ambient temperature, etc.), energy

profile information (i.e., voltage and current from the traction motor, auxiliary systems, Energy

Storage System (ESS), power electronics, onboard charging system) at 1 sec intervals. History of

charging sessions, energy in, time stamp, State of Charge (SOC), incidents and alarms, system

health monitoring and diagnostics information.

The controller for our primary power unit is capable of providing all of the requested data-points at a

sufficient sample rate but does not contain any built-in capability for long-term self-storage of said data.

That said, separate logging capability could be supported as all of the data can be broadcast on vehicle

J1939 network. For example, data can easily be supplied to an onboard logging system such as

Fleetwatch or accessed through the optional New Flyer Connect system. New Flyer requests to store

data on a data logger

IPTC Response:

105. Page 35 TS 25.2 / Battery Containers

Connector and cabling design shall be such that inappropriate or unsafe connections are

not physically possible.

New Flyer requests a deviation to this requirement. The modular nature of our battery packs is such that

it is not possible to separate all terminals in a manner that would eliminate any potential safety risk.

However, please note that fully installed battery pack modules have protective caps installed over the HV

connections that would prevent a shock as long as they cable attachments are not removed.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

106. Page 35 TS 25.2 / Battery Management System

The BMS system must be capable of monitoring the voltage level of cells within each

battery pack. The BMS must be able to read and store individual battery or block voltages at a

frequency of 1 data point per block every 15 seconds. The system must also monitor battery pack

temperatures using no fewer than 2 thermocouples placed in and around each battery pack

sampled at the same 4 samples per minute frequency.

The BMS controller setup used in our propulsion battery system is capable of providing all of the

requested data-points at a sufficient sample rate but does not contain any built-in capability for long-term

self-storage of said data. That said, separate logging capability could be supported as all of the data can

be broadcast on vehicle J1939 network. For example, data can easily be supplied to an onboard logging

system such as Fleetwatch or accessed through the optional New Flyer Connect system. New Flyer

requests approval for this deviation.

IPTC Response:

107. Page 37 TS 26.1 / Charging Infrastructure

The battery charger shall be configured to automatically restart after unintended

interruption of a charging episode due to interruption or temporary degradation of electrical

service.

For safety considerations, New Flyer strongly recommends against implementing an automatic restart of

the charger after interruption to minimize the risk of harm to maintenance personnel and electrical

equipment. This would also be in conflict with many of the already existing charging standards and

protocols that are already available within the industry.

IPTC Response:

Vendor may propose a system without this, but final determination on how the system is set up

will be made during discussions with the selected vendor.

108. Page 38 TS 26.2 / Depot Charging Stations

The depot chargers shall be capable of discharging the on-board energy storage system

to facilitate making repairs the preferred means of discharge shall be to return the power to the

utility grid.

Please note that there is no way to effectively discharge a Lithium Ion battery to render is 100% safe or to

facilitate making repairs without completely destroying the battery, nor is there any repair to the batteries

that would require a full and complete discharge. Proper high voltage safety procedures must always be

followed when servicing the propulsion batteries and care must be taken to not make contact with any

exposed connections or terminations.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

109. Page 39 TS 26.6 / High Level Management System

The high level controller shall also be the point of transferring instruction and re-

programming to the charging station and buses.

The high level management system for the supervisory control of the charging stations is not directly

compatible with the onboard vehicle multiplexing system. As such, it would not be possibly to conduct

remote reprogramming of the vehicles using this methodology. New Flyer requests approval to remove

this requirement.

IPTC Response:

Vendor may propose an alternate remote programming method, but some type of remote

reprogramming is preferred. Lack of remote programming will lower the evaluation score.

110. Page 46 TS 36.2 / Master Battery Switch

Opening the master switch with the power plant operating shall not damage any

component of the electrical system.

Please note that while steps are taken to minimize the impact of shutting off the vehicle using the master

battery switch, it is impossible to guarantee that there would be no impact to vehicle if this were to be

done on a regular basis. Proper procedure in normal operation is to apply an orderly shutdown through

the standard ignition switches (i.e. the master run switch on the side console panel or equivalent). The

master battery disconnect switch is meant for emergency and maintenance applications and should only

be used in such instances.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

111. Page 46 TS 37.1 / Interior Climate Control-Capacity and Performance

In ambient temperatures of 10 to –10 degrees F, the average temperature shall not fall

below 65 degrees F while the bus is running on design operating profile with no passengers.

New Flyer requests approval to provide APTA specification TS 54:

When the bus is operated in outside ambient temperatures in the range of -10 to 10 °F, the interior

temperature of the bus shall not fall below 55 °F while the bus is running on the design operating profile.

New Flyer exceeds this requirement and can provide 58 °F.

IPTC Response:

Approved.

112. Page 38 TS 26.3 / On Route Charging Stations (Optional)

Buses shall be scheduled to stop for a maximum of 5-10 minutes at each Charging Station,

including time to engage and disengage the charging interface.

Understanding that the minimum dwell time allowed for charging the bus on route is 5 minutes and that

up to 10 minutes may occasionally be available during any single end of line stop, can Indy Go provide

the minimum daily average dwell time for any given bus on the worst case schedule? Simply stated would

a bus on the worst schedule have as a daily average dwell time that is greater than 5 minutes and if so by

how much?

IPTC Response:

IPTC agrees that this is not clear. It is possible that the dwell time may never exceed 5 minutes. If

a vendor’s solution requires more than 5 minutes of charge to enable a 30 mile range extension,

they should propose what amount of time will be required. However, it may require that IPTC add

a bus to the route and/or alter the operating profile, and so will be scored accordingly. In no case

should that time be more than 10 minutes.

113. Page 2 / Addendum #1 / Optional Cycle

Only one charger on each route would be allowed under the optional operating cycle, and

that charger should be capable of extending the range of the bus by 30 miles with a 5-minute

charge. Additional chargers or additional charge time may be proposed, but would require an

additional bus.

If 2 on-route chargers were to be proposed, would Indy Go accept that each charger be placed at the

opposite ends of the BRT line? If so, what is the absolute minimum and minimum average dwell time at

the other end of line? Would Indy Go consider it acceptable if each charger extended the range of each

bus by 15 miles in 5 minutes which, as a system, would effectively extend bus range by 30 miles per lap

without affecting dwell time at each route end?

IPTC Response:

See #114. 5 minutes of total dwell is expected on the roundtrip. Any amount of time over that

(whether it is on one or two chargers) would likely require an additional bus on the route and/or

change in the operating profile, which IPTC will consider in the evaluation.

Note: New Flyer Drawings and Specifications related to RFA will be posted as attachment.

114. Ballard request if approve the RFA to include fuel cell range extenders, we would like to request

IPTC extend the submission date of the proposals by four (4) weeks to enable us to prepare a proper

proposal for the hydrogen infrastructure?

IPTC Response:

Denied.

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