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1 Joint Action Group for Lightning Detection System Date: 30 January 2008 Cochairs: TBD Exec Secretary: Lt Col Mark Fitzgerald, USAF Telecon # 888-680-9581, pass code 535430# GoToMeeting: https://www1.gotomeeting.com/join/301237607 Meeting ID is: 301-237-607

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Page 1: 1 Joint Action Group for Lightning Detection System Date: 30 January 2008 Cochairs: TBD Exec Secretary: Lt Col Mark Fitzgerald, USAF Telecon # 888-680-9581,

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Joint Action Group for Lightning Detection System

Date: 30 January 2008Cochairs: TBDExec Secretary: Lt Col Mark Fitzgerald, USAF

•Telecon # 888-680-9581, pass code 535430#•GoToMeeting:  https://www1.gotomeeting.com/join/301237607 •Meeting ID is: 301-237-607

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Agenda

Topic

Welcome

Introductions and Attendance

Review Membership

Introduce JAG/LDS Goals

Review TOR

Review Timeline

Description of Agency Deliverable

Example Capability Scrub

Possible Vendor Technical Review

BREAK AT 2:30pm

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Welcome

• Welcome!

• Administrative remarks– This meeting is being recorded– Telecon # 888-680-9581, pass code 535430#– GoToMeeting:

 https://www1.gotomeeting.com/join/301237607 Meeting ID is: 301-237-607

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Introductions and Attendance

• Introductions around room and on telephone

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Review Membership

• DOC Members:Name Office

Mr. Sergio Marsh Primary (NWS Upper Air Mgr)

Mr. James Heil NWS OS7

Mr. James A. McNitt NWS/OOS/FSOC/OSB

Mr. Wayne Faas NESDIS NCDC

Mr. Stephen DelGreco

NESDIS NCDC

Dr. Ronald R. MacGorman

NSSL

Dr. Phillip Bothwell SPC

Mr. Timothy Oram NWS/SR/SMG HOUSTON TX

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Review Membership

• DOD Members:Name Office

Lt Col Mark Fitzgerald Primary DOD Rep (OFCM)

Mr. Kurt Nelson Navy

Col Mark Zettlemoyer USAF (Air Staff)

Lt Col James Rickman USAF (Air Staff)

Mr. David E. Johnson Army DAMI-OPS G2

Dr. Frank W. Gallagher III Army Dugway Proving Grnd

Todd M. McNamara 45 WS DOR (Patrick AFB)

William P Roeder 45 WS SYR (Patrick AFB)

William M. Schmeiser 30 WS SYR (Vandenberg)

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Review Membership

• DOI, DOT and BLM Members:Name Office

NONE IDENTIFIED Department of Interior

Mr. Paul Armbruster Primary FAA Member (ATO-T)

Dino Rovito FAA ATO-P

Mr. Rick Heuwinkel FAA NAS Weather Office

Mr. Bing F. Gong Volpe Natnl Transportation Sys Ctr

Ms. Bev Fronterhouse

BLM Alaska Fire Service

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Review Membership

• NASA Members:Name Office

Dr. Richard Blakeslee

Primary Member (Marshall Spc Flt Ctr, Global Hyd & Cli Ctr)

Ms. Doris Rotzol Hood

Spaceflight Met Group, Johnson Spc Ctr

Dr. William J. Koshak

NASA MSFC, Earth Science Office, VP61

Dr. Francis J. Merceret

NASA KSC

Dr. John Madura NASA KSC

Mr. Robert Scully Co-Chair, Space Shuttle E3 Control Technical Panel JSC EMC Group Lead

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Introduce JAG/LDS Goals

• Review TOR– The JAG/LDS will provide a National Lightning

Capabilities Document that will achieve the following:

• Be a mutually agreed upon set of capabilities that will fulfill the requirements of the member agencies.

• Fully describe the capabilities such that a contractor can build the system based on what is in the document.

• Be delivered to the NWS by June 2008.

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Review TimelineEvent POC Due Date

Agencies provide capability description

Each agency with unique requirements

30 Mar ‘08

First DRAFT Capabilities Document

Lt Col Fitzgerald 30 Apr ‘08

Review/improve Capabilities Document

JAG/LDS 30 May ‘08

OFCM review/approval of Capabilities Document

Mr. Sam Williamson

30 Jun ‘08

Vendor Technical Review NWS ??

Complete MOU NWS ??

Complete New Contract NOAA Contracting

Jan ‘10

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Description of Agency Deliverable

• See Excel spreadsheet• Due to OFCM 30 Mar 08• All agencies (DOC, USAF, USA, Navy, DOI, FAA, BLM,

NASA) should provide a list of capabilities using the table provided

• Are there any descriptors missing?– Impact if capability not available?– Flash vs stroke reporting?– Polarity?– Cloud to cloud needed?– Data Format?

• Add descriptive columns, pages, or maps as necessary to capture your agency’s needs

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Description of Agency Deliverable

• Should we agree on a common non-proprietary data format?

• Need to agree on common description (intersection of all of our needs) for different geographical areas. – Common set of capabilities for CONUS and territories– Common set of capabilities for Pacific and Atlantic– Common set of capabilities for Europe etc etc

• We can capture those needs that fall outside the intersection of our common needs and make them a part of the data capabilities document.– Separate description for Spacelift, range, EOD capabilities etc

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Lightning CapabilityExample

FromNPOESS / GOES-R

Mr. Jim Heil

Example Capability Scrub

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Example Capability ScrubSystems Capabilities Thresholds Objectives

a. Horizontal Cell Size

Nadir, clear Worst case, clear All Weather

1 km1.3 km40 km

0.25 km 20 km

b. Mapping Accuracy

Nadir, clear Worst case, clear All Weather

1 km1.3 km5 km

1.km3 km

c. Measurement Range -2o to 40o C -2 to 40 C

d. Measurement Precision Clear All Weather

0.2o C0.3 o C

0.1 C0.1 o C

e. Measurement Uncertainty Clear All Weather

0.5 C1.0 o C

0.1 C0.5 o C

f. Refresh 6 hours 3 hours

g. Long-Term Stability 0.1 C .05o C

h. Latency 90 minutes 15 minutes

i. Geographic Coverage Global Ocean Global Ocean

• Sea Surface Temperature (SST)

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GOES-R

NOAA Satellite Observation Requirements:ATMOSPHERIC Parameters

Observational

Requirement

User & Priority(LO-#)**

L E V E LGeographi

c Coverage

Vertical Cov

Vertical Res.

Horizontal Res.

Horizontal Spacing

Mapping Accuracy

Mapping Uncertaint

y

Msmnt. Range

Msmnt. Precision

Msmnt. Accuracy

Msmnt. Uncertaint

y

Refresh Rate

Long-term stability

Reliability/Continuity

Data Latency

Notes

Lightning Detection

NWS/NCEP/AWC-? NWS/NCEP/CPC-? NWS/NCEP/MPC -1NWS/WFO - 1

THemispheric

/ CONUS?

Surface to cloud top

4 km ? 1 km ? Real time ?

70-90% detection ± 15 Flashes/

min

? continuous yes. 1 min

All varities of

lightning (in cloud, cloud-to-

cloud, cloud-to-ground,

etc)

O ? 1 km ? 100 m ? ? 99% ? <10 sec

Example Capability Scrub

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GOES-R Program Requirement DocumentObservational Requirement

User & Priority(LO-#)**

L E V E LGeo Cov

(G,H,C,M) / Conditions

Vertical Cov

Vertical Res.

Horizontal Res.

Horizontal Spacing

Mapping Accuracy

Mapping Uncertaint

y

Msmnt. Range

Msmnt. Precision

Msmnt. Accuracy

Msmnt. Uncertaint

y

Refresh Rate/

Coverage Time

Data Latency

Long-term Stability

Notes

T C tbdSurface to cloud top

10 km tbd 1 km tbd Real time tbd

70-90% total

strikes detection

?continuou

s1 min tbd

O C tbdSurface to cloud top

500 m tbd 100 m tbd Real time tbd99% total strikes

detection?

continuous

<10 sec tbd

T C ?Surface to cloud top

10 km ? 1 km ? Real time ?

70-90% detection ±

15 Flshs/min

20% FAR?

? continuous 1 min tbs

All varities of lightning (in cloud, cloud-to-

cloud, cloud-to-ground,

etc)

O C ?Surface to cloud top

1 km ? 100 m ? Real time ? 99% ? continuous <10 sec tbs

T H tbs 2 km 0.5 km tbs tbs 5 min 1 min

O H tbs 0.5 km 0.2 km tbs tbs 1 min 1 min

T C ?Surface to cloud top

10 km ? 1 km ? Real time ?70-90%

detection ± ? continuous 1 min

O C ?Surface to cloud top

500 m ? 100 m ? Real time ? 99% ? continuous <10 sec

T FD tbdSurface to cloud top

10 km tbd 1 km tbd Real time tbd

70-90% total

strikes detection

?continuou

s1 min tbd

O H tbdSurface to cloud top

500 m tbd 100 m tbd Real time tbd99% total strikes

detection?

continuous

<10 sec tbd

T H ?Surface to cloud top

10 km ? 1 km ? Real time ?

70-90% detection ±

15 Flshs/min

20% FAR?

? continuous 1 min tbs

All varities of lightning (in cloud, cloud-to-

cloud, cloud-to-ground,

etc)

O H ?Surface to cloud top

1 km ? 100 m ? Real time ? 99% ? continuous <10 sec tbs

T G n/a tbs tbs tbs± 10% of Layer or amount

tbs tbs tbs tbs

O G Column n/a 1 km 1 km 1 kmSee

CommentSee

CommentSee

Comment1 x 10-6 s 30 sec tbs

T H ?Surface to cloud top

10 km ? 1 km ? Real time ?

70-90% detection ±

15 Flshs/min

20% FAR?

? continuous 1 min tbs

O H ?Surface to cloud top

500 m ? 100 m ? Real time ? 99% ? continuous <10 sec tbs

T M tbdSurface to cloud top

10 km tbd 1 km tbd 0 - 1 Binary tbd tbd ?continuou

s1 min tbd

O M tbdSurface to cloud top

0.5 km tbd 0.2 km tbd Real time tbd tbd ?continuou

s1 min tbd

T M tbs 0.5 km 0.2 km 0-1 55 continuous 1 min tbs

O M tbs 0.5 km 0.2 km 0-1 55 continuous 1 min tbs

Lightning Detection: CONUS

NESDIS/ORA - UA

NESDIS/OSDPD/SSD - 1

GOES R Baseline

NWS/NCEP/AWC-1 NWS/NCEP/CPC-1 NWS/NCEP/OPC-1NWS/WFO-1

GOES R Baseline

OAR/NSSL-1

Lightning Detection: Mesoscale

GOES R Baseline

NWS/NCEP/AWC-1 NWS/NCEP/CPC-1 NWS/NCEP/OPC-1NWS/WFO-1

DoD/USAF-1

NESDIS/OSDPD/SSD-1

Lightning Detection: Hemispheric

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LIFE CYCLE PHASE

GEO COVVERT RES

VERT RES

UNITS

HORIZ RES

HORIZ RES

UNITSACCURACY

ACCURACY UNITS

FREQUENCY FREQUENCY

UNITS

ct-awx - lightning CT-AWX Global na na 4 km 70 % 10 sec

nasa-trmm-lightning imaging NASA-TRMM Operations Global 5.5 km 90 % 12 hr

nws-ltg-environmental NWS - LTG Operations CONUS na 0.5 km 99 % 0.01 sec

oar-frd mesonet-atmospheric electric field intensity

OAR - FRD Mesonet Operations Mesoscale 10 % 1 sec

ct-mwx - lightning CT-MWX Hemispheric tbs tbs 4 km 5 km 10 sec

nasa-trmm-lightning imaging NASA-TRMM Operations Global 5.5 km 90 % 12 hr

nws-ltg-environmental NWS - LTG Operations CONUS na 0.5 km 99 % 0.01 sec

oar-frd mesonet-atmospheric electric field intensity

OAR - FRD Mesonet Operations Mesoscale 10 % 1 sec

ct-sfx - lightning CT-SFX Hemispheric na na 2 km 1 km 10 sec

nws-ltg-environmental NWS - LTG Operations CONUS na 0.5 km 99 % 0.01 sec

oar-frd mesonet-atmospheric electric field intensity

OAR - FRD Mesonet Operations Mesoscale 10 % 1 sec

nasa-trmm-lightning imaging NASA-TRMM Operations Global 5.5 km 90 % 12 hr

ww-hyd - lightning WW-HYD Hemispheric 2 km 2 km 80 % continuous na

nasa-trmm-lightning imaging NASA-TRMM Operations Global 5.5 km 90 % 12 hr

nws-ltg-environmental NWS - LTG Operations CONUS na 0.5 km 99 % 0.01 sec

oar-frd mesonet-atmospheric electric field intensity

OAR - FRD Mesonet Operations Mesoscale 10 % 1 sec

ww-lfw - lightning WW-LFW Hemispheric na na 2 km 1 km 10 sec

nasa-trmm-lightning imaging NASA-TRMM Operations Global 5.5 km 90 % 12 hr

nws-ltg-environmental NWS - LTG Operations CONUS na 0.5 km 99 % 0.01 sec

oar-frd mesonet-atmospheric electric field intensity

OAR - FRD Mesonet Operations Mesoscale 10 % 1 sec

ww-wws_sev - total lightning WW-WWS_SEV Hemispheric 100 m 100 m 100 m 0.01 sec

nasa-trmm-lightning imaging NASA-TRMM Operations Global 5.5 km 90 % 12 hr

nws-ltg-environmental NWS - LTG Operations CONUS na 0.5 km 99 % 0.01 sec

oar-frd mesonet-atmospheric electric field intensity

OAR - FRD Mesonet Operations Mesoscale 10 % 1 sec

ww-wws_sev - lightning: cloud to ground

WW-WWS_SEV Hemispheric na na 100 m 100 m 0.01 sec

nasa-trmm-lightning imaging NASA-TRMM Operations Global 5.5 km 90 % 12 hr

nws-ltg-environmental NWS - LTG Operations CONUS na 0.5 km 99 % 0.01 sec

oar-frd mesonet-atmospheric electric field intensity

OAR - FRD Mesonet Operations Mesoscale 10 % 1 sec

ww-wws_wr - lightning detection WW-WWS_WR Hemispheric 2 km 2 km 80 % continuous na

nasa-trmm-lightning imaging NASA-TRMM Operations Global 5.5 km 90 % 12 hr

nws-ltg-environmental NWS - LTG Operations CONUS na 0.5 km 99 % 0.01 sec

oar-frd mesonet-atmospheric electric field intensity

OAR - FRD Mesonet Operations Mesoscale 10 % 1 sec

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Possible Vendor Technical Review

• NWS may set up a vendor technical review so that the JAG/LDS can get a preview of the latest lightning network and sensor capabilities

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Open Discussion