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TOUCHLINES The Magazine of the Sutton Referees’ Society
www.suttonreferees.co.uk
October 2012
March Society Meeting now
Wednesday 21st March
Simeon says…
C o n t e n t s
2 Simeon Says…
3 Editor’s Notes
3 From the Chair
4 Sutton’s Super Refs
5 Captions Please!
6 FA Cup Appointment
David Laughton on being a part of it.
7 ..in the Referee’s Opinion
Your thoughts, questions and comments.
13 Marathon Man 2 (the sequel)
Barrie Whittington’s day at the Seaside!
15 Check the Net
Snippets from the World Wide Web.
22 Invitation to the Palace
Mike Coen on being 4th
Official at Selhurst Pk.
24 Who is the Ref?
A new fun monthly photo feature.
25 In Pictures - Sutton Refs in Action
Two pages of pics from Tournaments and
League Games.
27 English and Scottish Football Teams
A cryptic quiz from Tim Lawrence at County.
28 Society Contacts
29 Minutes
From the Meeting of September 12th
, 2012
32 Dates for Your Diary
Upcoming Events.
October Meeting – Wednesday 10th
Hi, All.
WOW…!! Standing room only at the last meeting with a turnout
of 32 members out of a total of 50 isn’t that bad I would say.
Thank you all. It was a lively night and thank you to Peter
Watson for giving us the presentation on the Law Changes for
the new season. It amazes me with a room full of referees how
opinions differ; how boring and sterile would “Football” be if they
brought in technology. Funny old game really..!!
Next Month’s meeting is bound to be an excellent one. We have
Roddy Llewellyn - a well-respected Rugby Referee- as guest
speaker. Roddy will have a presentation which will be interactive
and discussion based. So please make every effort to attend
and show what a well supported society we are.
Dennis Hayes is looking for Assistant Referees for the Suburban
League. If you are able to “Assist”, please contact Dennis at the
following email address: [email protected]
Hopefully we are now all into the swing of the new Season and
you have a few games under your belts. Remember if you have
any match incidents from your games you wish to air, our
Touchlines editor will be only too glad to put them in.
Also for those who may feel they need a bit of advice or
guidance on their own game, please do not hesitate to ask one
of our experienced members - including myself - who will be only
too willing to assist. Attending the meetings is a great place to
do this. How often do we go out alone to officiate, an incident
happens and you are asking yourself: “Could I have done
anything different to prevent this?” Help is on hand if required.
As always the Committee are looking for suggestions so please
let anyone know your thoughts.
I look forward to seeing you all on the 10th Oct at Gander Green
Lane.
TOUCHLINES is published by the Sutton Referees’ Society.
Editor: Mike Coen
Email: [email protected]
The reproduction of articles and news is welcomed by the Society.
They would, however, like to receive a copy of those publications
which reproduce any of our articles, either in whole or in part.
The opinions expressed in TOUCHLINES merely reflect the views
of the authors and are not binding in any way on the editor or
any official.
Front cover photo:
Mike Coen – Drop Ball:
Morden & District – September 2012
Photo by Simeon Potter 2
Simeon
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Hello Everyone!!
What a busy time September and early
October have proved to be for me.
Happily, the fixtures have been many
and I’ve alternated between lines on the
Isthmian, middles on the Combined
Counties, a splendid FA Youth Cup
middle at Woking and a fourth-official
appointment at Selhurst Park for Crystal
Palace – Man City U21s.
That last one was to date the highest
level match in which I have had any
involvement and I have written up a few
notes from the evening, which can be
found later in this issue.
Looking at the diary, the games are still
coming thick and fast, so hopefully the
weather won’t do anything to spoil
things, as we move further into Autumn
and Winter starts to poke its head
above the horizon.
I’ve still managed to cover a few
Sunday Morning games as well. I
always bring the camera along, as you
never know, and sure enough, there
was our own Simeon Potter on the next
pitch just a couple of weeks ago. With
his match starting 30 minutes before
mine, I took the opportunity to snap of a
couple of shots before I warmed up.
I knew he had spotted what was going
on, when I saw him reciprocating – and
with my own camera too - as my game
entered its final few moments.
So those of you out and about on
Sunday morning pitches...be afraid...be
very afraid!!
See you on the park,
or at Gander Green
Lane.
Mike.
Editor’s Notes From the Chair
Dear Colleagues,
What a great turn out we had for the opening meeting of
the season last month. Let’s hope we can replicate it on
the 10th October when we have our first guest speaker
for 2012 - 2013. It was good to see a few new faces
there and find out at the meeting that membership
numbers for the season are looking very healthy.
As is usual, the first meeting of the season dealt with law
changes and discussing various issues arising from
them. As always, what appeared to be straightforward
wasn’t and we could not get a general consensus in the
room on what certain wording meant in practice. It
appeared that when it came to what happened to the
number of substitutes you can select from - when a
named substitute starts the game in place of a person
named to start the game - differed depending on to
who’s advice you listened. Peter Watson said that he
would seek clarification from County Office so with any
luck we should all know the correct thing to do by now.
At the end of last month Mark Halsey was in the papers
as he had received several unsavoury comments on
Twitter following his handling of the Liverpool –
Manchester United fixture and had raised a complaint
with the police. This goes to show that anything which is
written / said on media communication sites is open to
the normal legal restrictions on what can and cannot be
said. This is not just a one way thing. I have seen plenty
of comments made by fellow referees on Twitter /
Facebook about other officials, players and clubs which
could be open to the charge of disrepute so do please
bear in mind the implications of anything you state on
these forums as somebody with an axe to grind might
just use it against you.
Kindest regards.
Barrie (The Chair)
Sutton’s Super Refs
Peter Crichlow
FA Vase 1st Round Proper Lingfield -v- Colliers Wood United Sat 13th Oct
David Laughton
FA Cup 1st Qualifying Round Uxbridge -v- Berkhamstead (Assistant) Sat 8th Sep
AFA Senior Greenland Cup Winchmore Hill -v- Old Brentwood Sat 1st Sep
Mike Coen
Surrey Sunday Veterans Cup Rd 1 Cultural Vets -v- Putney Corinthians Vets Sun 14th Oct
Surrey Senior Cup – Rd 1 Chertsey Town -v- Walton & Hersham (Assistant) Tue 23rd Oct
Rod van Niekerk
FA Vase 1st Round Proper Lingfield -v- Colliers Wood United (Assistant) Sat 13th Oct
Matthew Westlake
FA Vase 1st Round Proper VCD Athletic -v- Erith and Belvedere Sat 13th Oct
Dane Johnstone
Surrey Senior Cup – Rd 1 Chertsey Town -v- Walton & Hersham (Assistant) Tue 23rd Oct
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CAPTIONS PLEASE !!!
H a v e y o u a n a m u s i n g c a p t i o n f o r t h e p i c t u r e ?
Email your thoughts to me and I’ll put the best efforts in the next issue.
Daniel Woolard
-The FA are going with children's views on youth
football... I didn't know they wanted a bigger ball!! Next
thing will be bigger goals!
- Thought they were making goal line decisions easier?!
How will we know if the whole ball is over??
Peter Watson
-Competition rules had specified the size of the ball at the
"The Prisoner " convention.
Wayne Ingram
-Fifa refuse to use goal line technology but believe that
this is the answer!
Fez Barnard’s Wife
- - Golden Balls!
… a n d L a s t M o n t h ’ s O f f e r i n g s
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Paul Chandler
- FIFA try to compensate for the Jubilani ball being too light!
- Midget Football is touted for the next Paralympic Games
Barrie Whittington
- Coming to a near you soon – HONEY, I SHRUNK THE MATCH
OFFICIALS!
- The one on the right says ‘There’s no need to give me the cold shoulder
because my pressure gauge malfunctioned!
John Martin
-Are we in Brobdingnag? (aka Gullivers Travels by Jonathan Swift)
Simeon Potter
- The Officials for the “Land of the Giants” Cup Final.
- You don’t think my balls look too big in this do you..!!
Matt Ackerman
- I said that new Puma pump was good!
Rod van Niekerk
- Hi, Lewis. I didn’t know you were fourth official.
Matthew David
- First football team to reach and find space!
- Adidas getting too big for others boots!
David Laughton
- Bet your balls not this big?
- Watch out - we are going to be balldozed.
FA Cup Appointment! David Laughton
The Three Amigos appointed to FA Cup Qualifier Round 1.
As a humble level 5 referee it is the biggest shock to receive an email on a Sunday night from your
county advising you that you have been appointed to an FA Cup game...Yes! The FA Cup!!
Uxbridge Town FC vs Berkhamsted FC.
After my initial shock (and screaming with delight) I managed to get to sleep.
Mini Me, Mini Mini Me & Mini Mini Mini Me!!
On Monday our referee, Peter Georgiou (AFA),
contacted me and Dane Johnston (Surrey
Referee and new Sutton Society member).
We exchanged details, kit instructions and, of
course, the important directions as to where to
pick up the man in charge.
So Saturday came: Boots polished, kit
checked, kit checked, toilet, toilet.... then Dane
arrived and off we went to pick up Peter. I got
lost and knocked on the right door number but
wrong road, only to be greeted by a lady who
was rather shocked when I asked if Peter was
ready!
Good news! We found Peter and set off for
our adventure.
All I can say without writing a book is that this
was a tremendous honour and to be part of a
special trio on the day was amazing. There
was a lovely touch prior to kick off in the
changing room when Peter (referee) gave
Dane and myself a personalised FA Diary
each.
Final score was 3-4 and the following link will take you to a report on the match from the FA
themselves:
http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/News/2012/Sep/uxbridge-berkhamsted-first-round-qualifying-
report.aspx
We celebrated afterwards by all three of us going back to the referees’ local county club in SAL
(Old Salesians FC), where we had a few drinks and chatted with our fellow referees, all of whom
were most proud of us (see photo).
To close: Working with two great Level 4s was a great experience and it was a very special day in
refereeing for us all.
When you start on your journey to officiate you can never be too sure what will happen and where
you might end up. All I can say is that at whatever level you are, hard work, support from your
society and encouragement means everything and the FA Cup Day was the cherry on the cake. 6
.…in the Referee’s Opinion….
Your Thoughts, Questions and Comments
Surrey FA Memory Stick, Rolling Subs & Other Thoughts
Hi, Mike.
You'll be pleased to know that I found my "stick" and needed to use it today after a player I had
booked for kicking a ball away got a straight red for telling me to "f" off then compounded his error
by snatching my cards and throwing them in my face. Luckily I use a flexible wallet or he might
have had my eye out!
Lovely chap! It's a beautiful game sometimes isn't it? 4 yellows and a red in park football.
Fortunately I have "RESPECT" written on my sleeve, so that's alright then.
Out of the goodness of my heart I didn't abandon but still had to book their keeper for time wasting
about 5 minutes later. You would have thought he would have spotted that I don't mind getting my
cards out by then! Mind you they were a little screwed up.
Suggest you don't go back to Junior football. The teams both had 4 subs today and I spent more
time seeing players on and off. I was just waiting for some football to break out!
Couldn't believe the radio when driving home; Anton Ferdinand refusing to shake hands. For
Pete's sake boys, just grow up! Otherwise us grass roots refs can just expect more of the same
behaviour that I experienced today.
Hope you had a quiet one.
Neil Sitch
In his role as Sutton Society’s Hon. Secretary, Simeon Potter immediately responded:
Hi Neil (aka Keith;o)
I hope I’m reading this right and you are taking what happened to you today with a little light
humour but saying that, if I didn’t laugh I would cry!!
Sounds like you stood up to this idiot pretty well and you would have been in your rights to
abandon the game but showed great courage to get it completed.
I take it there was no apology after the event from either the player or club?
Hopefully the player will get a big ban. Remember to write exactly what happened and to note
whether you felt your safety was in any danger.
If you need to have a chat please do not hesitate to contact me at any time.
…to which Neil responded:
The manager did apologize immediately on the pitch. When speaking to Xxxxxxx Xxxx (league
referees secretary) later, apparently the club have asked the player not to come back and he was a
known problem at his last club!! So at least it appears the club have acted promptly and hopefully
a ban will be coming his way and he won't be troubling us refs again!
Tom Shaw was reffing on the pitch next to me and made sure he stuck around for the end of my
game, so good to be supported (ex Wimbledon RS so tried to entice him to Sutton but I think he
lives nearer Kingston...I can but try).
Doing an U13 in the morning so not expecting so much excitement!
See you at next meeting. Neil. 7
Law Changes - Tape on Socks!
Those at last month’s meeting will recall that the discussion on law changes raised several
comments to do with tape and over-socks. John Martin submitted the following extract
from an AFC Newsletter:
We have continuous problems with odd shorts and socks in a team.
...You could simply remind clubs that their kit should comprise matching shirts (with unique
numbers) matching shorts and socks. Be aware there has been a change in the Laws this season.
Tennis socks over football socks are not allowed unless they are the same colour and any tape
used must match the sock colour.
You may think that this not relevant to our football BUT IT IS. Referee have been ordered to
observe the law and report any breaches to us.
We are trying to educate clubs and players, and not punish. However we do expect all clubs to
comply by the start of November .
...I'm advised that clear tape can be found in Poundland...6 rolls for a quid.
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Tim Lawrence (Surrey County RDO) advises as follows:
Leagues and competitions have been informed that clear tape may be used over socks and any
other socks must be worn under the football sock.
Referees should report to the competition any non-compliance as this infringes certain rules.
In the early stages of the season, it's likely that such advice has not been properly passed on to the
players or that players are trying it on but it is important that referees REPORT.
Law Changes – Named Substitute Starts the Game
Also at last month’s meeting, the change in law - regarding a named substitute starting the
game in place of a named player without informing the referee – provoked much
discussion; specifically around whether the originally-named player would still be eligible
to be used as a substitute as he does not appear on the referee’s list of subs. Several
follow-up emails were received:
Ivan Stone reminds us that this would not be an issue if ‘rolling subs’ were being used: “From div 1
to div 4, four sub roll on roll off. Make sure all in team sheet before starting.”
Mike Coen says: “The concern is that the player who was originally on the team sheet is now
sitting on the subs bench BUT he has not been named as a substitute. Assuming 3 from 5 named
can be used, I do understand that 3 subs can still be made during the game. The question is
whether it is now 3 from 4 named or whether the ‘unnamed’ sub can still be used, as his name
appears on the teamsheet, albeit as a starting player. On the parks, with no (or illegible signature-
only) teamsheets, this would be even more difficult as the only names the referee is likely to have
in his book are those of the original named subs.”
Simeon Potter responds: “As most leagues have a match card, the player may not be named as a
sub but his name/signature will be on the match card. He can come on as a sub, although you
don't have his name. You take it and report this to the league. It’s then up to them to check if his
name is on the match card by cross referencing the name he has given you and the signature on
the card. Basically, if there's 15 signatures on the card then 15 players can take part.”
Continued on Page 9...
Following a handball by an
attacker just outside the
penalty area, the keeper
prepares to take the resulting
free-kick.
He first steps beyond the ball
to shout instructions to a
defender but, as he steps back,
he accidentally backheels the
ball into his own net.
Matthew Westlake is the first respondee to award a goal, saying: “I would presume play hasn't
restarted so would not action anything until I had blown for the restart. If I had restarted play then a
goal would have to be awarded; it would be a bit harsh though…and imagine if it was in the second
minute of play! What a popular decision that would be!!”
Matthew David agrees: “Unfortunate! Sympathy etc. all round. This is a direct free kick. This is
an own goal to be restarted from the center mark. Only from a corner or goal kick can an own goal
not be scored directly. How this could ever happen even with the elements stacked against you is
unimaginable!”
Barrie Gale also decides ‘Goal’ when he says: “Tough luck on the keeper I would say. Intentional
or not it makes no difference. As the ball is placed outside the area the goal must stand and play
be resumed in the normal fashion. If the free kick was instead within the penalty area the resulting
decision differs in that the kick would have to be retaken, as the ball had not left the area into the
field of play. Another scenario also changes what happens: Say the free-kick was for obstruction
rather than for hand ball then the result would be a corner kick as an own goal could not be scored
from an indirect free kick.”
Peter Watson begs to differ: “The referee would not allow the goal as the player cannot score a
goal DIRECT into his own goal therefore award a corner kick to the opponents.”
and Aaron Goodwin and Rod van Niekerk both agree with Peter, saying: “Corner kick. Cannot
score an own goal from a free kick” and “No Goal. Restart with a corner kick” respectively.
9 Continued on Page 10...
What is your decision and how do you restart play?
Matthew Westlake says: “I would have thought (and this is what I shall do should it arise) that there
would be an opportunity to take the name of the player who was originally due to start but is now
on the subs bench BEFORE he enters the field of play, ensuring you inform him and the manager
that he will be reported to the authorities. There may be a reason they swapped, such as illness,
late arrival at the ground, couldn't find shin pads, etc. etc. and the last thing we need (and I would
imagine what the change in the law is partly aiming to avoid) is a mandatory caution for a substitute
entering the field of play and a feeling of ill will towards a referee who is applying law. I think the
Jim de Rennes ‘common sense over law application’ dynamic applies and I will be trying to
incorporate this in my games.
Tim Lawrence (Surrey County RDO) has the final word: “If a substitute replaces an outfield
player before the game without having informed the referee, the number of substitutes does not
change, as stated in the competition rules. Important to make a note of substitutes' names. The
referee reports the matter to the competition.”
...Continued from page 8
...Continued from page 9
Keith Hackett says: “It's a corner. A goal cannot be awarded from any free-kick kicked directly into
the team's own net. The Laws make clear that, if that happens, ‘...a corner is awarded to the
opposing team’.”
After you caution a foreign player, he calmly
says something to you in his own language.
You don’t understand it but an opponent
from the same country is incensed and
translates it, saying it was a grossly abusive
threat.
What do you do?
Mike Coen starts the ball rolling on this one: “Like any other offence, you cannot simply take the
word of an opposition player that something has occurred that requires action. You do not know
what words were used and it was not said in a manner that implied any threat. Calm the opposition
player, using his captain if necessary, but take no action. Keep an eye on the two players (if you
have neutral assistants, advise the closer one to watch out for anything carrying on behind you).”
John Martin agrees: “Can you be certain of the translation? I don’t think you can do anything
except note what transpires after the event.”
Peter Watson also concurs but goes a bit further when he advises: “As you didn't understand it,
you'd be unwise to accept the opponent's version at face value - for obvious reasons. However,
the player can be informed that it won't stop you from reporting it.”
Simeon Potter is in the same camp: “You cannot be sure what is said. The other player may be
trying to get this player sent off so, if you don’t know, don’t guess (always a favourite with me..!!).
After the game, you could ask the player who heard it to write the phrase down and report this to
the league to investigate.”
Continued on Page 11... 10
Paul Chandler comes to the same conclusion: “The free kick is outside the penalty area therefore
the ball is in play when the ball is kicked and moves, so when the keeper backheels it, the ball is in
play. As you cannot score a goal against yourself from your own free kick, the correct decision for
the ball going into his own net is to award a corner kick to the opposing team.”
as does Matt Ackerman: “You cannot score from a direct or indirect free kick into your own goal so
corner kick is the restart.”
Mike Coen also says: “An own goal cannot be scored from a free kick, whether direct or indirect.
Once the ball was kicked and moved (provided you are satisfied that you were ready and had
signaled to restart) then it is in play, so a corner kick is the result. Be ready to explain your
decision to the opposing captain, as you will almost certainly find yourself surrounded by
incredulous opposition players and will need to control the situation well if cards for dissent are not
to be needed.”
John Martin neatly avoids the unexpected, stating: “The clue is in the question: ‘accidentally’. As
long as you realise this, then restart with the original free kick. If you do not see it as accidental,
then the restart would be a corner kick.”
Simeon Potter expands this theme, advising: “It all depends, in my eyes. If the ref has indicated
for play to restart - by either word or whistle - he should award a corner kick to the attacking team
but, if not, the ref should be a bit clever, see the situation happening and blow to stop the game
before the ball goes over the goal line. Then have the free kick retaken.”
…Continued from Page 10
11 Continued on Page 12...
Keith Hackett says: “When you're judging possible offensive, insulting or abusive language you
base your decision on what is said, how it is said and the context. Here you don't have enough
information to take action: you can't take an opponent's word for it, and the comment was said
calmly. But what you can do is have a word with both captains to ensure the issue does not
escalate. Later, include what happened in your report..”
and Matthew David is equally suspicious of taking an opponent’s word at face value: “Second
hand information is something the ref can't act on. However, there is now a suspicion of something
that could get out of hand. I would quietly ask the player concerned what he said in English,
realising that he is unlikely to tell the truth but giving you, as the ref, the opportunity to reinforce the
seriousness of the accusation to him. Then talk to the player who made the translation about what
you have told the player.”
Rod van Niekerk also thinks that: “...you will have to bite the bullet. You cannot depend on the
opponent’s testimony.”
Barrie Gale says that this could be “Tricky. I personally feel that you cannot be offended by
something that you do not understand and cannot take heed of what is told to you by an opposing
player. I do feel that you should be shown to at least be trying to manage the situation - possibly
by talking to the player along with his captain or manager, advising them both that the player
should keep his comments and his thoughts to himself and that any further outburst will be looked
on as offensive and dealt with accordingly.”
Matthew Westlake agrees that you “can't take a translation in case he is misleading you, so
involve the captain, explaining that any utterings in a foreign tongue will be assumed to be dissent
rather than complimentary and take further action if there is a repeat.”
A player-manager in the technical area keeps
having a go at you. He does not swear but
carries on ranting so you send him to the
stand.
Minutes later, you see him on the touchline, in
full kit, waiting to come on as a substitute (his
name was correctly on the teamsheet).
What now?
Mike Coen notes that: “A manager may be dismissed from the technical area for offences that, if
they took place on the pitch, would carry a yellow card (i.e. dissent) or a red (i.e. use of insulting,
abusive, etc.). In this case, dissent seems to have been the case, so he may still come on as
substitute but, as he has effectively already been cautioned, he will count as being on a yellow card
already. If you are feeling nice, you may wish to remind him of that fact before he commits his next
cautionable offence! Since he was on the sheet as a named substitute, I’m wondering if a yellow
card should have been shown for the original offence (you would not normally card managers when
dealing with these incidents)? I don’t think so, as that offence was treated with him in his
managerial, rather than player, role.”
Peter Watson says that: “As his name was on the teamsheet, he's entitled to be shown a red or
yellow card. The player-manager has been dissenting and not acting responsibly in his role. He
could, conceivably, had been shown two yellow cards (and then a red), in which case he would not
be allowed to play.”
...Continued from page 11
Paul Chandler disagrees, saying: “Simple! He cannot come on! If he was a named substitute as
well as the manager, he is sent off as both the substitute and the manager and therefore cannot
take any part in the match. Order him back to the stands.”
and Matthew Westlake agrees with Paul, stating: “If a player-manager is dismissed and is a
named sub, then the team have to have their allocation reduced by one and he can't come on”.
Simeon Potter clasps his forehead a-la Homer Simpson as he says: “Doh…!! First of all, you
have done something incorrect in Law by sending him to the stand. If he was a named player then
you should have shown him a card of some description. If you felt it to be just a caution, a yellow:
if worse than that, a red. In this case you would have to allow this player to be used as it not clear
what punishment you have given him.”
Matthew David “would warn him that he is already 'skating on thin ice' before he comes on. As a
substitute, he could have been cautioned or sent off (red card) depending on the severity of the
ranting. Perhaps the ref missed an opportunity here.”
John Martin is: “Not sure on this as sending a manager to the stand is neither a caution or a send
off but ‘bringing the game into disrepute’, is subject to a report only and is dealt with by County. In
hindsight, if you had cautioned the player-manager as a substitute, he could now come onto the
field of play as a player with one caution against him. I think, with the situation as described, he
can come on as a player with a clean sheet.”
Rod van Niekerk appears to be in agreement: “I would think as he has not done anything as a
player to get a red card, he could play. (I would have cautioned him as a player instead of binning
him). “
Barrie Gale states that: “The important thing here is that you have removed the offender for
dissenting actions rather than a more serious red card offence, so there is nothing in law
preventing the player from taking a further part in the game. One assumes that you have taken the
guy’s name when removing him from the technical area, so it is a bad mark for you personally that
you have not noted he was a named substitute. In these circumstances, I would personally remind
the player that he had already been cautioned for his earlier actions - even though you did not
show him a yellow card at the time - and any further booking would be his second of the game.
You should always know who is who on the bench and whether any of them have dual roles.”
Keith Hackett says: “Allow the substitution to go ahead. The key factor here is that he did not use
offensive, insulting or abusive language towards you. Although managers are not shown cards,
that would have been the equivalent of a red card offence – meaning he could take no further part
in any capacity. But his offence here was dissent so, when you sent him to the stand, you would
have made it clear that, should he wish to come on as a player later in the game, he would do so
with a yellow card to his name. Make a full report of what happened after the game.”
Don’t Forget - Original YATR scenarios may be found
every Friday on the Guardian website, showing the
questions that will appear in the Observer the following
Sunday. The answers then appear on the Monday.
www.guardian.co.uk/football/you-are-the-ref
We’re on the crest of a slump. Jack Charlton 12
Marathon Man 2 (the sequel) Barrie Whittington
On a bright but crisp April morning the marathon started from Preston Park on the outskirts of
Brighton, bang on 9am.
As I started in a pen some distance back, it took me around 10 minutes to actually pass through
the start line. Following a loop of Preston Park the course took the runners down along the A23,
going past St. Peters Church and the Brighton Pavilion around the 2 mile mark.
Brighton Marathon – Sunday 15th April 2012
Miles 3 & 4 saw the runners undertake a loop
around the town centre before hitting the coast
road towards the Marina at around the 4.5 mile
mark. I am going well at this stage, sticking to my
pre-race strategy of running around 10 minute
miles – no sign at this stage of the 4 hours 30
minutes race pacer.
Travelling uphill now along the coast, past the
Marina took care of miles 6 & 7 and lo and behold
the pacer appears alongside me after he had gone
for a toilet break – result! Now I could stick with
him for a while and it would make it easier for my
family to spot me. I am still feeling strong at this
stage as I pass Roedean on the left hand side still
travelling uphill towards Rottingdean.
Mile 8 sees a left hand turn heading towards
Ovingdean and the pace slows as the road
becomes a little congested. After a mile or so the
runners undertake a “U” turn back towards the
coast then a left hand turn takes us further away
from the town centre. After ¾ of a mile another “U”
turn sees us heading back towards the pier along
the coast road and thankfully a respite from the
uphill slog and a chance to up the pace slightly.
At this stage I am still feeling strong and keeping the pacer company. The crowds get bigger on
both sides of the road as we approach the town again and we hit the halfway marker just past the
pier heading out towards Shoreham. I am spotted by my family at this stage – cue big cheers and
waves – The support from the crowd at this point takes your mind off the fact that actually your legs
are beginning to protest at the battering you are subjecting them too. The course from now on is
flat all the way to the finish - it then takes the runners away from the coastline and a 4 mile loop out
towards the town of Aldrington and back.
Fatigue is beginning to set in now – the first signs of cramp – quite a lot of the runners at this stage
are walking – my pace slows slightly. Miles 18 to 22 were tough. The route now goes towards
Shoreham power station – the scenery is of the industrial/dockland type – the support is spasmodic
– cramp beginning to be a real issue, or is it just in my mind? Continued on Page 14... 13
This particular part of the course is dubbed “The Road to Hell” – I can tell you it is not far wrong.
Around mile 22 I decide to walk for twenty seconds or so and try to shake the cramp out of my legs
(the only time I stopped running).
As we head back towards the pier at miles 23 and 24 the support starts to build up again.
Suddenly the cramp is easing - or is it just my mind is deflected from it by the tremendous support.
I am feeling strong as the pier looms closer and closer. I try chatting with the lady running
alongside me – she politely tells me to get lost – or rather she is just a little too tired to talk at this
stage.
The 25 mile marker comes and goes –I am so close now – I can smell fish and chips and candy
floss – strange as it may seem though, I didn’t feel the need to stop and buy some.
The finish is in sight – I am aware of my family shouting and screaming my name – a big cheesy
pose for the camera – more waves and thumbs up. With 200 metres to go I drop my sun glasses –
I risk stopping to pick them up – muscles fortunately do not go into spasm and I manage to get
back into my stride – I am finishing much more strongly than I anticipated – I am overtaking other
runners – the finishing line is in sight – just a few more metres – cameras click - Yes! I have done it!
…Continued from Page 13
I stopped my watch and I spoke to another runner but I cannot remember what was said – I had
completed it in under my target time of 4 hours 30 minutes. I reach the point where the medals
were being given out – it is placed around my neck – I have not let myself down – I have not let my
family down nor all the generous people who had sponsored me.
I feel so proud – I am a Marathon finisher!! Finishing time 4 hours 26 minutes & 18 seconds and
over £1,400 was raised for Macmillan Cancer Support.
A big thank you to all those who sponsored me.
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How Refereeing made me a Better Doctor Spotted by Mal Davies – 10th June, 2012
Check the Net !!! Snippets pulled from the World Wide Web
Doctors are deeply invested in the myth of their infallibility. Once I began refereeing my
son's league, I saw the error of my ways.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/10/refereeing-soccer-made-me-better-
doctor?
Medical schools have developed a host of innovative programs to improve this skill, but as far as I
know, none has proposed my fantasy solution – asking students to trade their white coats and
stethoscopes for striped shirts and whistles, so they can referee soccer. Though this may seem
strange, I have learned over the years that good refereeing is a lot like good medicine.
Soccer was my game growing up, and when my son joined a local youth team, it rekindled my
fervor. A full-time medical practice left me little time to coach, so refereeing became my way to
watch him play and inoculate him against my touchline antics. The fact that it improved my
doctoring came as a surprise.
A game is alive; it is moving and pulsating, and there is the ever-present danger of injury. In the
midst of all this is the referee, singularly bestowed with the duty to "enforce the laws of the game".
Some of the laws are direct and quantifiable – a pressure gauge can verify proper ball inflation.
Others, as when, precisely, does a player in an offside position become active, are delphically
abstruse. Most are neither, but all require constant vigilance and split-second judgments.
The art of refereeing, like the art of medicine, requires not just a thorough knowledge of the laws
but the craft to intervene wisely. I am not shy about making decisions – few doctors are – but
stopping play for every misdemeanor destroys the flow and frustrates players and parents. Some
of my son's teammates still wish that for my first few games, I had a whistle inscribed with "first do
no harm".
This is the time of year I get ready to
precept a group of third-year medical
students. We have four weeks
together on the medicine wards, and
while they constantly worry about the
facts, I worry about how they think.
Teaching my students clinical
reasoning means helping them
harness their most powerful
diagnostic tool – their ability to
communicate effectively and
compassionately.
Better communication not only
betters health, especially for people
with chronic illnesses, but also
makes doctoring more satisfying.
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Tough call: Referee Martin Atkinson shows a
red card to Sotiros Kyrgiakos of Liverpool
The laws also dictate that as referee, I have "full authority" and that my decisions "are final". They
do not, however, suggest reciting this to players unhappy with those final decisions, unless
resentment is the objective. When I see a colleague do just that, I wish I could whisper what I was
taught at my first refereeing class: while the laws cede us full authority, they also prescribe that,
during play, our status is the same as a goal post. The referee is part of the field, in service to the
players who are there to have safe, competitive fun.
This is familiar to me. In my office, I make diagnoses and prescribe treatments, yet it is my patients
who must undergo tests, digest pills, and heal their wounds. Disease is not about the doctor, in
some of the same ways that the game is not about the referee. We are sheltered in some midway
place – a limbo of neither true observers, nor full participants.
Doctors and referees must also continually balance authority, the right to order and be obeyed, with
autonomy, the right of a patient, player or spectator to do what they wish: a task made even more
challenging by the press of constant decision-making and the desire for irreproachable accuracy.
Under these conditions, even innocuous questions can become the affront that leads to wielding a
yellow card or writing a prescription with the admonition to "just take this". I want my students to be
conscious of these pressures to avoid the path of least resistance that decays compassion and
turns the tools of authority into cudgels of power.
Clear communication and respect helps, at least until the first mistake. A mistake changes
everything.
As a rule, we doctors do not embrace mistakes naturally. Our training deifies perfection, and I see
that my students are its newest disciples well before they have even touched their first patient.
Mistakes seed shame and defensiveness that crystallize into arrogance, transforming the doctor
from ally to adversary. Add to this the way the most vulnerable often need to believe that their
doctors are infallible, and suddenly, mistakes become cataclysmic.
Refereeing has been my laboratory for learning how to uncouple fallibility from failure. I approach
each game like a student preparing for rounds – dutifully re-reading the laws of the game, scouring
"you are the ref"-like websites for answers to staggeringly improbable scenarios, and making sure
my contact lenses are in. Sacraments which I hope will help me be rewarded for my accuracy, but
chastened by the knowledge that, without fail, I will make mistakes. All will be public and many will
be sharply pointed out to me by both the players and their supporters. In addition, unlike my office
where patients and their families bear some unspoken natural belief in my precision, the pitch is a
mirror universe where even the right calls can meet with rebuke.
At first, this led to forays into self-pity over the injustice of how could I always be wrong. This lasted
almost a full season until a professional tower crane operator liberated me from my indignation. My
accidental emancipator came up to me after a game to tell me that, even from where he stood, at
the other end of the pitch, it was obvious that the ball had fully crossed the goal line into the net;
my failure had denied his son a sure goal.
I left the pitch astounded, but soon began to assess the geometry: what is the angle of view for a
man, approximately 6ft tall and 80 yards away? Could his eyes actually have discriminated
between the ball and line? Thankfully, before excavating my old math textbook, I realized that my
determination to comfort myself had just given me a lift up to a perch overlooking my own magical
thinking. Checklists, proper positioning, better concentration or whatever new strategy I might
dream up … none could never make me error-free. Mistakes are more than inevitable; they are
part of the basic currency of human relations. Their pain and the recognition of a shared
vulnerability can be a connection more intimate, perhaps, than shared joy .
...Continued from page 15
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This realization freed me from both the sideline clamor and my fantasy of perfect accuracy. It
became clear that the fullest expression of authority depends more upon a facility to address
mistakes than a fidelity to precision. Without that, it just becomes the use of force. And though it
was still agonizing, when I had to face my son's team and apologize for denying them the stone-
cold penalty that could have helped them win, this new understanding bolstered my ability to do it
without fear or shame and with a full heart.
Recently, I took this lesson I learned on the pitch into my office. I failed to diagnose temporal
arteritis, a common and potentially devastating illness, in a patient I have cared for since starting
my practice. When I sat with him to talk about it, clenched arms and a taut gaze spoke of deep
anger and disappointment in me. The disappointment was more unsettling than any distant thought
I had then about a possible malpractice suit or losing him as a patient.
I knew from my refereeing that listing excuses – like how atypical it was to have temporal arteritis
without fevers, or weight loss or abnormal blood tests – was irrelevant; the truth was, I had not
even considered the diagnosis. Without equivocation, I said that I made a mistake and knew it was
damaging. I acknowledged that he might never be able to trust me again because my failure might
haunt him. I silently confessed that it would haunt me, too.
We spoke for some time and I answered his questions as best I could. After parting, I was shaken
but also comforted by an unexpected realization: the direct acknowledgement of my error was as
important as any medication in healing my patient.
Some doctors rate their success by the number of famous patients they treat, or the rare illnesses
they have diagnosed, but for me, I count that moment with my patient as one of my real successes.
Refereeing illuminated the path that brought me to this broader understanding of what good
medicine and good care means. So, this year, though I won't take my students onto the pitch, one
goal of mine will be to make them better at making mistakes, too.
...Continued from page 16
Striker’s shocking penalty blasted towards Car Park Spotted by Mal Davies on Eurosport.yahoo.com – 14th August, 2012
The Austrian top flight doesn't often find itself in the spotlight of world football, but Red
Bull Salzburg's Jonathan Soriano changed all that this weekend.
He lit up the league with a truly cataclysmic penalty miss:
The blunder came at a critical moment in his
side's home clash against fellow title
hopefuls Rapid Vienna.
Vienna were leading their hosts 2-0 going
into the final 10 minutes when a foul gave
Spaniard Soriano the chance to pull one
back for Salzburg - and maybe allow them to
go on and score again to snatch a point.
Whether it was the pressure of the situation
or just tired legs late in the game, we'll never
know - but something in former Barcelona
player Soriano snapped. Instead of smashing the ball into the bottom corner, he did his level best
to boot the bag of wind clean out of the stadium.
Sadly, the footage does not show whether he actually succeeded in getting the ball into the car
park, but it's safe to say that only the fact that all three subs had already been used kept Soriano
from being hauled off for an early shower. 17
'Grenade' explodes after being thrown from pitch
during Iran football match Spotted by Barrie Whittington – 21st September, 2012
A footballer in an Asian Champions League game narrowly avoids serious
injury after a "grenade" explodes when he throws it from the pitch in Iran.
Sepahan midfielder Adel Kolahkaj,
seemingly unaware of the danger posed,
picked up the object and casually threw it
off the field, where it exploded on hitting
the ground.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9557511/Grenade-explodes-after-
being-thrown-from-pitch-during-Iran-football-match.html#
During an Asian Champions League
quarter-final between Iran's Sepahan and
Al Ahli of Saudi Arabia, an object was
thrown onto the pitch a few feet away
from players and officials.
Reports suggested that it was a grenade
or firecracker.
Fortunately no-one was injured in the
blast. The game ended 0-0.
When Frank Stapleton wakes up...he rushes to the
mirror and smiles; just to get it over with!
Tony Cascarino
The Football Association have given me a pat on the
back, because I’ve taken football off the terraces and
onto the pitch! Vinnie Jones 18
Q&A: So what makes a bad tackle? Spotted by Mal Davies – 24th September, 2012
Premier League managers are in critical form after some controversial
decisions in recent matches.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19707057
Jonjo Shelvey's tackle for Liverpool against Manchester United on Sunday earned a sending-off
while David Luiz's challenge for Chelsea against Stoke resulted in just a booking.
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers thought the decision to send his man off was harsh, while
Stoke boss Tony Pulis was incensed that Luiz managed to stay on the pitch .
So what constitutes a bad tackle? Head of Premier League referees Mike Riley explains.
Where's the line between a decent challenge and a sending-off offence?
Effectively there are four types of challenge - firstly a correct tackle, where the player fairly wins the
ball and there is no impact on their opponent, the vast majority of challenges.
A small element are careless - the player makes a legitimate attempt but either in their timing or the
skill of the opponent, they foul the other player and a free kick is given.
If the tackle is reckless in nature, the player is booked, a yellow card is given.
If a player endangers the safety of their opponent, it's a red card, a sending-off.
A tackle happens in a blink of an eye and in that second, the referee must consider lots of factors.
Was it careless? Did the player show a lack of regard for his opponent's safety? Or did he use
excessive force? There is also the state of the pitch, the conditions and the state of the game.
What makes a red card tackle stand out?
The advice to players is to be mindful of their
responsibilities towards an opponent and beware that
if they commit to a tackle, at speed, with intensity, with
two feet off the ground, they run the risk of being sent
off.
The advice from referees and assistants to players is
to put themselves in their opponent's place and ask:
"Can I make this challenge without having an adverse
effect on my opponent?"
Referees look for the intensity, and the physical
contact that's made.
Shelvey was sent off after a clash with Evans
What about the angle of the tackle, if the player wins the ball, if studs are up or down?
The angle is not important, it's the degree of intensity and contact made.
And a player could win the ball with one foot and still endanger their opponent with the other. A
decade ago, if a player won the ball, the tackle could be seen as legitimate, but now the emphasis
is on the safety of the players.
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How do referees try to ensure uniformity across the league?
At the start of every season the Professional Game Match Officials - the body which runs
refereeing in England - visit clubs and go through examples of controversial incidents.
They tell players and management staff that if players commit to a challenge at speed with both
feet off the ground they risk a red card.
If there is a spate of controversial decisions, the PGMO comes together with the PFA and LMA and
re-issues the guidelines on what is an acceptable challenge - to try to reach a common
understanding and interpretation of the rules.
The "select group" of the Premier League's 16 referees and 30 assistant referees meet every two
weeks to review and discuss incidents. Their performance is also reviewed using a post-match
analysis computer system.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/greek-football-team-sponsored-brothel-
121708454.html;_ylt=AlpPb6w8n.KDBOS4CjS3uiQytuV_;_ylu=X3oDMTFqdGYzajM5BG1pdANCT
E9HUyBCbG9ncyBJbmRleARwb3MDMzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0luZGV4VGVtcA--
;_ylg=X3oDMTFpZzVtdmVkBGludGwDZ2IEbGFuZwNlbi1nYgRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANibG9
nBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3#more-id
The number of free-kicks given has declined in Premier League games and is amongst the lowest
per game of any major league worldwide.
With studs, almost by definition, if a player is going into a tackle two-footed, airborne, their studs
raised, then they cannot control their velocity and risk a red card.
...Continued from page 19
Greek football team to be sponsored by Brothel Spotted by Mike Coen – 27th September, 2012
"When we announced to the players that our sponsor would be a brothel, they wanted to know
about bonuses," the club's president Giannis Batziolas joked on NovaSport FM radio station.
"The proposal was made strictly for economic reasons. As soon as the offer was made, we couldn't
turn it down.“
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/greek-football-team-sponsored-brothel-
121708454.html;_ylt=AlpPb6w8n.KDBOS4CjS3uiQytuV_;_ylu=X3oDMTFqdGYzajM5BG1pdANCT
E9HUyBCbG9ncyBJbmRleARwb3MDMzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0luZGV4VGVtcA--
;_ylg=X3oDMTFpZzVtdmVkBGludGwDZ2IEbGFuZwNlbi1nYgRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANibG9
nBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3#more-id
It has been well-documented over the last few years
that the Greek economy is not exactly in the best
shape.
Therefore it is understandably difficult for football
clubs to ink sponsorship deals - but one team have
come up with a novel, if somewhat ethically
questionable, solution.
Voukefala, from the city of Larissa, have confirmed
that the name of a local brothel will appear on their
shirts as part of a new corporate arrangement.
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Fan tries to throttle linesman Spotted by Neil Sitch – 30th September, 2012
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/fan-tries-throttle-linesman-
144414618.html
The incident happened during Chernomorets
Odessa's 1-1 draw against Metalist Kharkiv.
The referee and his assistant went to the
technical area to talk to Chernomorets coach
Roman Grigorchuk, who was upset by the
award of a corner against his side.
The assailant then sprinted onto the pitch and
grabbed the linesman round the neck.
The Ukrainian league was shocked on Saturday when a fan leapt from the
crowd and attempted to choke a linesman.
Stewards and riot police quickly wrestled the
man to the floor, but he continued to struggle
violently as he was led off the pitch.
Despite the disturbing episode, play continued
and the match was completed normally.
The president added that the brothel was "a legal enterprise valued at two million euros".
They are not the only Greek club to have sought out an unusual sponsor, either.
Another club, Paleopyrgo, struck a deal with a local funeral home.
"It was a matter of survival. The owner of the funeral home is a friend and we agreed," Paleopyrgo
general manager and player Lefteris Vasiliou told NovaSport FM.
"The previous season was very difficult for us with the economic crisis. We did not have a sponsor
for the last three years.
"The players now wear black shirts with a big cross on the middle.
"I showed the players the jersey and they liked it. We now have people requesting us to produce
more jerseys."
David Batty is quite prolific, isn’t he?
He scores one goal a season, regular as clockwork!
Kenny Dalglish. 21
Invitation to the Palace Mike Coen on the Duties of a Fourth Official
No! Not that palace!
Somehow I don’t think Touchlines has reached quite that exalted an audience yet. I’m not
expecting a response for ‘One is the Ref’ from that quarter any time soon.
• Assist the referee with all administration.
• Manage the benches - ensuring all present were on the teamsheet, that only two were
standing at any one time and that a maximum of three substitutes from any team were
warming up at any one time and behind the senior assistant.
• Manage substitutions - checking jewellery, boots and sock-coverings before displaying the
off-and-on numbers on the electronic board (more on that later) and handling the half-way-
line exchange.
• Roll on a replacement match ball if the referee should signal to do so (ensuring it is rolled to
the nearest player from the losing team if in the closing stages – to avoid unwittingly
collaborating in any time-wasting).
• Keeping an extra eye on proceedings, lest some incident should happen in my credible zone
needing referring to the referee.
• Pick up the referee’s signal close to the end of each half, to allow display of minimum
additional time, again on the electronic board.
All officials arrived at the ground within minutes of each other. Referee (Paul
Harris) and one assistant (Paul Yates) had travelled from Maidstone with the
other assistant (Casimir Nzenga) coming from Portsmouth. I almost felt
guilty at the thought of my easy post-match 10-mile drive home...almost...but
not quite.
From the first minute, the team slotted together easily. Banter flowed and a
feeling of comfortable professionalism was evident throughout.
Continued on Page 23...
I refer, of course, to Crystal Palace; the football league club that sits in
Selhurst, SE London, and falls under the auspices of the Surrey County
FA.
I had been delighted, yet somewhat apprehensive, at my appointment as
Fourth Official for the U21 Development League game between the Palace
and Manchester City and, as the evening drew closer, I found myself to be
uncharacteristically a little nervous at the thought of the job ahead.
Not only was this going to be the most senior game in which I had ever
been involved, the role of fourth official was one that I had only performed
once before and that was a few seasons back.
As always, preparation provided the backbone of confidence and some on-line research quickly
reminded me of my expected duties; namely:
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An electronic subs board was found for me to have a practice on. Even easier than I could
possibly have imagined, with one button to select number off, one button to select number on and
another button to hold down to make the numbers light up. Anyone coming up to their first game
using one of these need have no qualms.
Team sheets arrived and you know you’re part of something pretty good when the No. 5 for Man
City reads Kolo Toure!
The fourth official often does not take part in the pre-match warm-up but how often will I get a
chance to run around on a top league ground? So all four of us did a few laps, stretches, shuttles
and sprints and it was not long before we were focused totally on the game ahead (although Cas
bemoaned the fact that he had maybe had one too many of the sandwiches provided when we first
arrived!)
The game itself was a dream to be a part of. Both sides wanted to play football. No-one was
diving or looking for fouls and a superb fast-paced 1-1 draw saw only 12 fouls awarded in the entire
game, with no hint of a caution. A decent-sized crowd certainly seemed to enjoy what they saw
with the second half, especially, bringing plenty of noise from the main stand.
Both benches were well behaved throughout. Apart from substitutions, my only interaction with
them was in noticing that the numbers seated did not tally with those on the teamsheets and
having to politely request that some relocation took place prior to kick-off.
One thing I did learn – obvious when you think about it
but I was a little distracted with the technicalities of using
the electronic board for the first time: Ensure the board
is displayed clearly from the half-way line as you
manage a substitution. I displayed the first one from
just in front of the benches, before putting it down and
going to manage the change-over. Senior assistant Paul
Yates spotted what had happened and quickly advised
me of the correct procedure as the substitution was
completed. His advice meant that the remaining
substitutions were then handled ‘by the book’. Another
example of the great team-work displayed on the day.
REFEREE WANTED
Woodmansterne Hyde FC are looking for a referee for
Sunday morning Epsom and Ewell League and Cup fixtures this season.
Age group U13-U17
Sunday Matches Kick Off between 9.30 and 11am
Fees:
U11-U13 £20 U14-U16 £25 U17 £30
If anyone is interested could they contact Terry Ferrão on [email protected] 23
We’ve had You Are the Ref.
A new feature starts this month – Who is the Ref?
Below is a picture of one of our Sutton Referees as you may never have
seen him before! The question is.....
Who is the Ref?
Who is the Ref?
Send me your guesses. The answer – with a more recent picture in more
traditional garb – will be printed in the next issue.
I need your pictures if we are to make this a regular feature!!
Please send your pic – the more cringeworthy the better - together with a
more recent image (preferably in ref’s kit) and I will use it in future issues.
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In Pictures – Sutton Society in Action
Matthew Westlake – Oy! You! Matthew Westlake – Close to the Action
Mike Coen – Come On. Keep Up.
Mike Coen – Decision Time.
Epsom Community Festival 7-a-side June 2012
Morden & District Sunday League – September 2012
Simeon Potter
– a quick waltz
while the ref’s
not looking!
Mike Coen – likes
players to show
‘proper’ Respect
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In Pictures – Sutton Society in Action
Simeon Potter - Sometimes you just have to laugh!
Barrie Gale – Ready for the Fray.
Toby Westlake – Fittest man on the pitch.
Wayne Ingram – Seeing Yellow.
Islamic Tournament – June 2012
Combined Counties
Football League –
September 2012
37 Clues...37 Teams.
Some are obvious, Some more tricky and some downright impossible!!
Answers later in this issue – page 30:
English & Scottish Football Teams From Tim Lawrence at County Office
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1 HAWAIIAN GREETING
2 GLASS HOUSE
3 AN UNLIKELY PIER
4 SET FIRE TO THE MEADOW
5 INSECT COLONY
6 A SHIPS BOTTOM
7 INTER
8 THE POUND
9 A SCOTTISH CAKE
10 ANCIENT LOUSY ACTOR
11 PENSIONERS
12 ORGAN WATER
13 A LINERS STAFF
14 A WISE RACER
15 DONE IN A LIBRARY
16 DR I PRESUME
17 GREEK MARBLES
18 ROBIN HOOD'S TURF
19 LOCAL CONTEST
20 AMMUNITION STORE
21 DARK LAKE
22 USED TO HIDE THE FORTIFIED WlNE
23 RED CHEESE
24 MAMA IS OK
25 BONNIES PARTNER
26 WILLOUGHBY CHASE OR TIMBER
27 I'VE BEEN SENT THERE
28 COTTON FACTORY'S SURROUND
29 RESTRAINS THE HOUNDS
30 NOT AN OLD FORTRESS
31 DIRECTION OF BACON
32 LONE OR SLOANE
33 PUT MORE COAL IN THE BOILER
34 FOUR PARTS N2 TO ONE PART 02
35 ATTACH WITH A NUT
36 LEGENDARY GOALSCORER
37 STUMBLE ON A SCOTTISH CHURCH
Example Organs Hearts
CONTACTS - 2012/2013
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Vice President John Kasey 020 8394 2968
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Chairman Barrie Gale 020 8644 3825
Vice Chairman Rod van Niekerk 07976 545874
Hon. Secretary Simeon Potter 020 8661 1555
Hon. Treasurer Keith Rodger 020 8786 7410
Training Officers Peter Watson 020 8393 9989
John Ryan 020 8337 6248
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Hon. Auditors Ms B M Lisney, MAAT
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Sutton & District Referee Society
Minutes of September Meeting that took place on 12th September, 2012 at Sutton Utd FC
Chairman
Barrie opened the meeting by welcoming all in attendance.
Apologies for Absence
Received from Keith Slaughter, Craig Hicks and David Laughton,
Minutes of Previous Meeting
All present were asked was there any matters arising from last April’s minutes. None were raised.
This was proposed by Grant Sheavyn and seconded by Mike Coen
Hon Secretary`s Report/Correspondence
Congratulations to all those who gained promotion: The ones I know of are:
Tom Ellams 4 - 3
Ryan O’Sullivan 5 - 4
Mike Coen 5 – 4
Simeon Potter 3F – 3E Assistant referee
The Secretary made the following mention of corres :
- County Registrations are up on this time last season
- Slow intake of forthcoming candidates for Referee Course
- County hand book, anyone not received theirs please contact the county office.
- Mentors workshop 7th November.
- Full FA course workshop November (date not set as yet)
- All prospective Level 4’s to attend FA Workshop 27th November.
- Encourage members to join RA Physiotherapy scheme. For £12 they can get four lots of physio per injury and this can
happen four times in the season. Therefore 16 sessions for £12. A bargain.
- Match based discipline is now in force for all football. This should not change anything that referees do. However,
because a player sent from the field of play will be suspended 21 days after being sent off as there is no appeal on a red
card*, we must have the reports sent in promptly. All clubs have attended a meeting to have the new system explained
to them and one of the things that was emphasised to them was that, if they had not received the paperwork after having
a player dismissed, to contact County Office who would chase up the referee.
*Just for reference there is still the opportunity for clubs to appeal against a misconduct report; this is something like a player
further abusing a referee after being sent off.
Hon Treasurer
Sutton & District Referees Society Treasurer's Report as at 1 September, 2012:
Opening balance at 1 April 2012 £1,476.16
Income since last report £1,442.50
Expenditure since last report £1,117.00
Society's Balance at end of period, 30/08/12 £1,801.66
Notes: Major items of expenditure for the period were:- Cost of FA Cup Final tickets: £268.00 and membership fees to
the RA: £814.00
Income from membership fees so far stands at £1,276.00
Membership: Stands at 50 x full members (of whom 4 are youth members)
Keith also stated that there will no membership cards issued. If you require your Sutton Ref Number, please email Keith
and he’ll be happy to pass it on. Continued on Page 39...
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Training Officers Report
Peter stated the first course starts on the 1st October and there is to be a second course in November, the figures of
attendance are not yet known.
Supplies Officer
Current Stock £151.51 Cash £15.00 with a balance of £166.51
Magazine Editor
Mike thanked everyone for the input and asked that it keep coming. Please continue to participate in “You are the Ref”
and the “captions”.
R A Delegates Report
Meeting was held on 5th September:
R.A. Conference: The R.A. Still discussing whether to have separate A.G.M./conference
R.A. Enquiry: Board appoint D Crick & B Bright to investigate and report back
Membership: Membership down slightly on this time last year by 48 in Surrey & 393 nationally. Three societies showing
an increase - Camberley +3, W.London +1 & Guildford +11.
Flash drives: Any referee not having received one to contact County Office.
R.A. Membership: Looking for anyone willing to go along on exam evenings to promote the R.A. Suggested it be a
younger member owing to the age of candidates. Mentors will also be asked to promote R.A.
Physio cover: Brian Fish would like to hear from anyone who used the scheme last year whether their experience was
good or bad.
Discipline: Any referee found not to be sending in disciplinary reports will be dealt with by County.
Ray Mallery: Anyone wishing to attend the presentation on Thursday 4th October at Croydon bowls club should contact
Les Johnston at [email protected] or 020 8688 0146.
Next delegates’ meeting will be 26th November
Retention Officer Report
Neil is sending out emails to those have yet to re-register but happy with the 50 members so far.
Any Other Business
Alan Donovan made a request that anyone interested in officiating in the Tandridge Sunday Youth League should
contact him.
Meeting closed: 20:30
DATE CHAIRMAN
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English & Scottish Football Teams: 1. Alloa 2. Crystal Palace 3. Wigan 4. Burnley 5. Crawley Town 6. Hull
7. Bury 8. Stirling 9. Dundee 10. Oldham 11. Chelsea 12. Liverpool 13.Crewe Alexandra 14.Hamilton Academicals
15. Reading 16. Livingstone 17. Elgin 18. Nottingham Forest 19. Derby 20. Arsenal 21. Blackpool 22. Port Vale
23. Leicester 24. Motherwell 25. Clyde 26. Wolves 27. Coventry 28. Millwall 29. Leeds 30. Newcastle
31. West Ham 32. Rangers 33. Stoke 34. Ayr 35. Bolton 36. Charlton 37. Falkirk
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NOTES
Dates for the Diary
October, 2012
Wed 10th @ 7:30pm Sutton Society Meeting @ Sutton Utd FC
Mon 15th 2012 Surrey County FA Conference @ Imber Court
“Embracing Change”
- Afternoon (professionals)
- Evening (volunteers)
November, 2012
Wed 14th @ 7:30pm Sutton Society Meeting @ Sutton Utd FC
Thu 15th @ 7:30pm Surrey County RAFA Event @ Imber Court
December, 2012
Wed 12th @ 7:30pm Sutton Society Meeting @ Sutton Utd FC
January, 2013
Wed 9th @ 7:30pm Sutton Society Meeting @ Sutton Utd FC
February, 2013
Wed 13th @ 7:30pm Sutton Society Meeting @ Sutton Utd FC
March, 2013
Wed 13th @ 7:30pm Sutton Society Meeting @ Sutton Utd FC
April, 2013
Wed 10th @ 7:30pm Sutton Society Meeting @ Sutton Utd FC AGM
