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Start Lecture Transcribing: Start Lecture by His Holiness Radhanath Swami Maharaja. In the Redwood forest of California, there are trees there said to be over five thousand years old. Can you imagine that tree is standing there when Lord Krishna was having his lila. That tree was standing there when Lord appeared and traveled throughout the land spreading the Buddhist dharma. That same tree was there when Lord Jesus Christ was preaching the gospel in the Middle East. That tree was present when Sankaracarya came to refute the Buddhist doctrine and established the doctrine of monism. That tree was present when the – Mohammad appeared in the Arabian countries and spread – the Islamic faith. That tree was standing there when the Red Indians had complete jurisdiction of the entire continent of North America. That tree was standing there when Christopher Columbus came and so called discovered the United States. And then all the Europeans came to settle and claim to be their own. That tree was standing there when each and every one of in this room took birth and in our insignificant lives, we will go through our childhood. We will go through our student years and then we will go through our adultness, we will marry, we will have children. They will grow up. They will marry. We will work hard, we will retire, we will grow old and that tree will watch us die and after we dead and gone but that same tree will be standing there watching our children our grand children, our great grand children, our great great grand children. Our names will be completely forgotten. There will not be practically a stress of remembering us in the history of this world after five or six generations. And that tree will still be standing there watching at all. So what is so great about that tree. Sukadeva Goswami says in Bhagavatam it is better to have one moment of consciousness than five thousands, six thousands years of life in ignorance. The purpose of life of the tree is quantity. The human life never has much quantity. So you live a hundred years, may to a hundred and two or hundred three, or hundred and six. May be you can even attain the might status of living till a hundred and eight. The question is that 108 years probably the last 30 years you are a total invalid living like a breathing vegetable. Not really a

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Start Lecture by His Holiness Radhanath Swami Maharaja.

In the Redwood forest of California, there are trees there said to be over five thousand years old. Can you imagine that tree is standing there when Lord Krishna was having his lila. That tree was standing there when Lord appeared and traveled throughout the land spreading the Buddhist dharma. That same tree was there when Lord Jesus Christ was preaching the gospel in the Middle East. That tree was present when Sankaracarya came to refute the Buddhist doctrine and established the doctrine of monism. That tree was present when the – Mohammad appeared in the Arabian countries and spread – the Islamic faith. That tree was standing there when the Red Indians had complete jurisdiction of the entire continent of North America. That tree was standing there when Christopher Columbus came and so called discovered the United States. And then all the Europeans came to settle and claim to be their own. That tree was standing there when each and every one of in this room took birth and in our insignificant lives, we will go through our childhood. We will go through our student years and then we will go through our adultness, we will marry, we will have children. They will grow up. They will marry. We will work hard, we will retire, we will grow old and that tree will watch us die and after we dead and gone but that same tree will be standing there watching our children our grand children, our great grand children, our great great grand children. Our names will be completely forgotten. There will not be practically a stress of remembering us in the history of this world after five or six generations. And that tree will still be standing there watching at all. So what is so great about that tree. Sukadeva Goswami says in Bhagavatam it is better to have one moment of consciousness than five thousands, six thousands years of life in ignorance. The purpose of life of the tree is quantity. The human life never has much quantity. So you live a hundred years, may to a hundred and two or hundred three, or hundred and six. May be you can even attain the might status of living till a hundred and eight. The question is that 108 years probably the last 30 years you are a total invalid living like a breathing vegetable. Not really a complexion doing anything in this world except basically living like a tree. Having your children, your grand children, you great grand children come by water you every now and then stream your branches. Human life is so what? What is the hundred years, ninety years, eighty years. The average life expectancy is now only in 60s or 70s. Human life is meant for quality. And what is quality? The dogs, the hogs, the Camels, the asses. “çva-viò-varähoñöra-kharaiù saàstutaù puruñaù paçuù”. It is described the man who have the mentality of dogs, hogs, camels, and asses. They pray the qualities of other man who have qualities of better dogs, hogs, camels, and ashes. A dog is very expert a being like a beggar. Begging for scraps of food from the master. People go to the college, they put in twenty years of education, they get high high Phd. And then what they do? Like the dogs they go begging for a job, begging for some scraps for some money. The

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dogs are also very expert at making a lot of noise trying to defend with they have. What does actually belong to them? They still want to be defend. Just like in America, almost every family has a dog. Then if you really want to know about the dogs, you ask any postman. They know all about dogs. Because when he goes to each house to deliver for the mass of the letter, every house they have to go to the same way deal. Most postman they have to wear special pants, so that special plastic amour. So there when dogs bite them, they do not bleed, why? Because the dog is saying gate out of my house. This is my house. When the master comes, the does not bark. If anyone else comes, then the dog barks, gate away from my house, gate away from my door. That place is not belongs to the dog. But the dog is very proud this is mine you keep away. Human civilization is basically the civilizations of dogs. Practically in any country, you go through in aggression. What are you doing here? Why do you? What do you want? What is your business? Where are you going to stay? This is my land. This is your land. Where is your passport? God’s property. Because of their mentality of dogs, they are thinking its mine and very protective that no one else can come. This is my house, this is my wealth. This is my family. This is my nation. And then when we are so much chaos they decide this is not conducive to our sense gratification, all these chaos, all these imminent danger of fighting and war. So let us form the united nations. Let us create peace and honor. Our spiritual master Srila Prabhupada he was invited to the united nations to give lecture. And when he came out he explained that the united nation is just big building where the assembly above varieties of dogs from the other parts of the world. Just come together to bark, one another. He said, what peace can you have? If you take twelve, fifty, or hundred dogs and put them in a same room. Can you expect peace amongst them? They are simply growling one another. This is mine, that is yours. You stay of my land. Out stay of your land. I want what you have. You want what I have? So much negotiations. And the dog, that barks the loudest and has the sharpest teeth, is considered as the greatest dog. Right now the most respected nations in the world are nations like America and Soviet Union, why? Because they have the sharpest teeth. They have the biggest bombs. It’s not that they have such a divine peaceful culture. Soviet Union is on the brinks of inner destruction due to inner unrest among people, lack of trust in authorities. In the 1960s the united states there was civil war taking place. Peoples from other parts of the world have no idea, the extent of the critical condition of that country. That the young people no longer wanted to follow the principles of the government. They knew that the people who are running the government were cheaters. They were sending them to battle fields of Vietnam just so that they can get the money. There is no reason for the war, except money. Why should we give our lives? Why should we see our friends die? Because these big people want money in the name of protecting communism, there was no question of protecting communism. So in this way there was civil war. The young generation turned against the older generation. There ware riots in the street almost everyday. On the college campuses the USA army, they were coming in and gunning down with machine guns to the

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innocent students and wounding them in hundreds and killing many. It was shocking. The USA army going into the first world war, the second world war, in another land fighting against the Japanese or the Germans as one thing. But coming on a college campuses and shooting dead their innocent own youth, who do not even have a knife or a stick to defend themselves with. This was the condition. And ultimately there have been many books about this. Most people in this world are do not know the USA government seen to just allow millions and millions of drugs to come in to completely tranquillize the young generations, so that they would not be the aggressive in their various pursuits against the establishment. You do not believe it. But it is a fact. And in this way, look at these countries now. They both have about economic collapses. The people of the country are miserable. But they are the most respective countries in the world, why? Because they have the biggest fames or sharpest teeth, why? Because this is the world of dogs. A dog is not a respective dog. Because of his gently qualities or saintly qualities. He respects out of fear that the dog has the biggest teeth or sharpest teeth and who can bark loudest.

And hogs, what is the quality of a hog. He has no discrimination, what he eats or does not eat. In fact hogs prefer the most abominable things. Hogs are very fond of eating stool. Our guru maharaja used to tell us that if you offer a hug nice fresh halawa, the hog, if he has a choice, he will say give me nice stool instead. They have no discriminations. So similarly human civilization they do not what is to be done and what is to be not done. All over the world people are eating abominable substances. So this is a civilization where people have lost the power to discriminate between what is valuable and what has no value. People are giving the opportunity especially the people of India, they are giving the opportunity of the most precious, highest jewels attainable in human life to decorate their life with that jewel. The jewel of religion, the jewel of philosophy, that can give you the integrity, respectability the honor, and the understanding in realization by which you can truly guide the people of the world to real peace and real unity. That is available to everyone India, rich or poor. But although the jewel, is being placed right within the hand, but they are throwing the jewel down to pick up the garbage of this world, modern technology, scientific advancement, money, fame, prestige, sex life. These things are considers so valuable. But compare to the opportunity to live in eternal life full of peace and knowledge. It is useless. So man is become like hogs. You game the halawa of pure devotional service and they want the stool of sense gratification. They reject it. They throw it away. Is not this true? Look around. Even in the name of religion and practically every one is simply chasing after material sense enjoyment. Dhruva Maharaja wanted the highest sense enjoyment, you can imagine. He wanted to control a kingdom is greater than his own grandfather, who happen to be Lord Brahma, great grandfather. His father was King Uthannapada. His grandfather was Svaymbhuba Manu. His great grandfather was Lord Brahma. He went to the forest to perform tapasya to attain a Kingdom greater than his great grandfather’s. After performing devotional service under the instructions of the great sadhu, Srila Narada

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Muni, the supreme Lord Narayana, appeared before Dhruva Maharaja. He said, Dhruva I’ll give you anything you desire. You want a kingdom like your grandfather or great grandfather, it is awarded to you. Dhruva Maharaja said, no. What do I want such a foolish kingdom for? It is all temporary. It has no eternal value. Now that I have your darshan, now I am feeling peace, the bliss of loving you. Now I can broadcast your glories throughout the world. Now I am completely content, completely satisfied. My dear lord, I do not desire anything else. I was looking for broken pieces of glass. But now I have attained a rare diamond. That was the realizations of Dhruva. But the realization of the people of today’s society. If they are given a real diamond and they are saying no, what am I want this old diamond for. Give me nice glasses how much I get. They are greedy for glass, broken glass. Economic development. Sense gratification. Therefore this is an age, where people are essentially like hugs. They have no discrimination of what is valuable and what is not valuable. Krishna says in Bhagavad-Gita that Kali Yuga means civilization of people what they do not know what is to be done and what is not to be done. They mistake religion to the irreligion and irreligion to the religion. And hardly anyone is interested in educating people in the real values of life. Our guru maharaja used to say that the education institutions in the west are nothing more than spiritual slaughter houses. They will teach the highest scientific understandings of the most technological fields and expand a persons brain to bigger bigger and bigger concepts that how to manipulate and exploit the resource of material nature. That in meanwhile lust, greed, envy, anger, pride, and illusion grow and grow, greater greater and greater in peoples hearts. Intoxication, illicit sex, meat eating, and gambling. They encouraged by the whole society surround them and by the time the students come out form the colleges, they are very very expert at manipulation and exploitation. Because their hearts were full of greed, lust, and pride. What do you think they are going to do for the world with all of their great power. I tell you, what they can do for the world. Read the news papers any day of the week and you will see what they are doing to the world. The problems of the world are all the cause by the intelligent class. Not by the illiterate. Not the big problems of the world. Why? Because the students are not trained to discriminate, what is a valuable and what is not? Who am I? What is god? What are the laws of god? What will give me peace? In fact when I was a young boy. Everyday before school was start, it was a law that you have to take the right hand and place it over your heart and you have to look up towards on the stripes of the red, white, and blue flag of the United States and you have to plays your -. If you didn’t, you would be kicked out of school. And everyone said to gather and plays your – to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic, which stands one nation under god, indivisible for liberty and justice for all. You cannot believe that Krishna allow me to remember this. It has been thirty years. Any ways what happened is, after sometime they cancelled it. It became illegal to say the play the – to the flag, why? Because of the last line, “one nation under god”. They made a law that the name god or anything having to do with religion is absolute illegal to discuss in school. Now on the propagating such a

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godless condition of life. What you expect the students to do with all the educations now they acquire? They have no discrimination. They do not know what is the difference between eternal and temporary. They do not know what is the sin? They do not know what is the consequences of sin. And what is the result? Completely unrestrictive sense enjoyment. The sexual resolution. The young generation decided, what do you taking about, no sex. It feels good. If it feels good, do it. That is our philosophy. You are talking about sins and all these things. We do not care. If it feels good, do it. So, what happens, if a man or woman, by the time their sixteen or eighteen years old, if they have not had sex, there is something wrong with them. They should go to a psychiatrics. They are socially out cast. If you are a seventeen or eighteen year old man and you haven’t had any sex, people will look ate you and say one thing, my god, what’s wrong with you? You are rejected. People were have sex not even, because they want it but just accepted by their generation. What is the result? There were harpies then there were ganeria and cephalous. Somehow or other by scientific advancement, they combated with these things and created the cure. Yes, you can have sex fearlessly. And now a days big problem, according to their science, according to their USA health department, they said, age continues to grow by the year 2000 at the rate is growing now 20% of America will die of AIDS. And by the middle of that century 50% of America will die of AIDS. Now you think, this is impossible. This is our -. But not more than a few hundred years ago in Europe, there was the black plague. In entirely 50% of the entire population of that country died within two years. In England 60% of the population of the entire country died within few years. Ireland 90% of the population died within 10 years. In the entire of Europe 60% of the population of the entire continent died of that disease. That was less then a thousand years ago, it happens an age is far worse of sever disease than the plague. People do not understand. That you commit sinful activities, you have to pay the consequence, why? Why because they are ignorant? Why are they ignorant? Because people do not bother to educate people the laws of god. If you do not believe in god, how can you understand the laws of god. And if do not accept the laws of god, then you have to pay the consequences and suffer one who sin. Therefore the biggest Phd and professors, the greatest politicians in the land, the quality of their life is the life of a hug. They have no discrimination. They do not know what is valuable and what is not valuable. What is right or what is wrong. What is the consequences of that they are doing? The present at the United States that they are sending hundreds and thousands of young people to the battles of Vietnam to be killed and mutilated. That same president gained his power and glory and his wealth by slaughtering cows. In his name there are hundreds and thousands of cows miraculously slaughtered. And the people of America nominated and elected him the supreme ruler of their land. When the blind lead the blind they all fall into the ditch, why? “>>>”. Then who are – who are like hugs. They honor and worship the biggest hug. Then who are like dogs honor and worship the biggest dog. Srimad Bhagavatam also compares asses to the human civilization. What is the qualification of an ass? An ass works so hard. Did you

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ever see how hard an ass works. In America there is a saying, if somebody is working hard, they says he is working like an ass. It is not a very flattering thing to say about somebody. They will take acute loads of wood or grain whatever and just put it on the asses back. The more they can put on it the more the put on it. And the ass he can hardly walks, his legs are trembling and after the walks mile after mile after mile. He will be so tired. He will be foaming at the mouth. And at the end of the day, they will give him a little grass. He will think ah, it was worth it. I get to eat this nice grass. Then he comes home to the see ass and usually if you ever watch asses. Actually I made study of asses. I can my degree in the study of asses, which is informal degree. It’s a fact. The she ass is very expert at making, he ass thinks that the she ass really likes him. When the he ass approaches the she ass with his mind completely attached to the idea that I’ll enjoy, then she takes her legs and kicks him in the face and he falls to the ground. He just thinks my god. What happened? I am never again do that again. I am never again fall for that trap again. Then he gets up and he starts eating his grass again. Then she comes and waves her tales on his face, he says ah, actually she does like me. Then the whole process takes place again and tell ah’ let us enjoy. He gets kicks on the face. So through the whole night, he simply eating a little grass and getting kicked in the face. And his working foaming at the mouth of the all day for that. It sound familiar. People works so hard, here in Bombay they stand on the train, were just like – just everybody just putting their elbows in your eyes and you are just been covered. The dirty train and you finally get to the station and if you little wealthy then you go through the traffic inhaling poisons exhaust fumes. People are honking at you and screaming at you. Why you cutting me? Then you finally go to the work and there is so much expected you and you just work like an ass, foaming at the mouth. When you take your train back, after nine hours of hashed in the office or in the fields, where ever you are working. Usually no one really respects or appreciates, how much you putting into your job. Everyone just takes for granted. It is not the way you do this? You deserve more money but they won’t give to you. And then you come home and you get a little food, and then your children usually they never listen what you are saying. That’s their way of kicking on the face. The neighbors and usually your wife or husband, not necessarily that so gross as an ass for sex life. But in so many other ways everyone in all around you just kicking on your face. You work all day. I remember my own father. This is work like an ass. He just leaves at 6 o’ clock in the morning and come home at 10 o’ clock at night. My mother was saying, why are you late? Why are you always late? Just kicking in his face. And then the children we always did nonsense, we did he wanted us to do. He was just said, why I am working so hard and do all these things for you. Why you do not do any thing for me? No appreciation, no love. But if I do not work, I won’t get all this. So in this way men are like asses. They work so hard for what? Mudha. And camels. It is describes that the camel his favorite food is thrones. When he chews on the thrones, he started to bleed his mouth, his tongue just started excreting blood. He started to shaken at blood and he drinks the blood and he thinks ah, this

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blood is very tasty. He does not what is blood. He thinks the thrones. He thinks these thrones are so tasty. These are so delicious and juicy. There is no juice in thrones. He is drinking his own blood. He is mutilating his own body and he is thinking it tastes good. So this the process of sense gratification. We enjoy our senses. Actually while we are doing is we are simply tasting the very life of our the blood what just letting all drain from us. In this way our whole duration of life is being spoiled and we are enjoying it. So Srimad Bhagavatam says that the man who are like dog, hugs, camels, and asses, the greatest pleasure in human society is sex. In India so much like that. But of course the population is growing so much, so much. Some extent people like that. But in America is very gross. What is sex life? According to Srimad Bhagavatam and according to science, you are loosing your own blood. It takes ounces of blood to create one drop of semen. And you are losing it all and you are thinking that it’s enjoyable. That is the mentality of a foolish camel. So men who are like dogs, hogs, camels, and asses, they praising and glorifying and who are like bigger dogs, hogs, camels, and asses. And this the condition of society. Therefore people do not understand, what are the real problems of life and how they are to be solved. Such persons they do not understand that human life is mean for quality. It is not just meant simply for quantity like the dogs, hugs, camels, and asses. It is not meant like the tree. Human life is meant for self realization. Human life is meant to understand the degraded condition by which there is no more birth, old age, disease, and death. Human life is meant to transcend these problems and realize the true nature of the self. The problem of death is very bad and the problem of birth, it’s a big problem. The population of earth is growing and growing and growing and nobody knows when there will stop. And people are trying so many remedies to solve the problems. Let us have abortion. Let us have contraceptive, Let us have family planning, but somehow or other we have to curve the population of the world. That the population is growing and growing and growing despite all their efforts. There was a billboard I saw here in Bombay, that they says our 70000 borne a day. Did you see that billboard? My god, so many babies a day. There is shortage of space. There is shortage of food. There is shortage of medical accommodations. There is shortage of educational facilities, cannot keep up with it. There is a tremendous problem due to birth. There is a tremendous problem due to death. There tremendous problems of old age. In America, there is a horrible problem of what to do with old people. In India there is some culture, what the children take care of their parents until they die. But in America as soon as you turn 18 and you can legally leave the house, you have noting to do with your parents, expect the phone call a couple of time a year or may be couple of times a months, if you are very closed. Nobody lives with their parents. Too troublesome. Therefore the parents, they do not know what to do. When they are old, they have what called social security. But nobody cares about them. Nobody loves them. They cannot protect themselves. They go onto the retirement home and old fox home they called it. And they just laying there and higher people they just giving them this, and give him that. So a person when old. The quantity of old people is growing more and more

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and more. Because they are giving these old people so many drugs or having longer lives, not naturally but through the drugs. And everybody else they are living a little longer in a completely helpless condition and everybody else is growing to that age. And it’s a huge population explosion of old people. And nobody knows what to do it with them. It’s one of them unsolvable or unpredictable problem in America. Nobody cares about these people. What we can do with them? The government is scratching their heads. And in so much care and so much attention. And they being cheated so cruelly. Because nobody cares about them, nobody wants them. And to the degree India becomes westernize to that degree that will bet the condition of the old people. So this is a big problem old age. And disease, my god we already talked about age, what to speak on cancer. We have doctors in this room. We have people who are owners of medical clinics. They know what a problem to disease. Our Arbind Mafatlal the father of Sri Dainandan Matitali Priay, out of his charitable devotion to his guru maharaja, he performs tens, thousands free eye operations for people who are ordinarily go blind. There is such problem disease in this world for the young, for the middle age, for the old. In this country the problem with disease, is people have curable disease but they have no money to treat them. So that they just going blind, going death, getting leprosy. If they just have little money, or little education they can be avoided. The people are unnecessarily suffering and dying because of lack of money and education. Recently we were in Ganesh puri, and we were discussing with these very religious people, who have a hospital bus. They go to the gate of the hospital buses and people are suffering from diseases. But they were not taking medicine. Because they are just illiterate people. They do not know better. They say that the government, when you want what is that disease? If you get an abortion, the government will pay you something like two hundred rupees. So these people they have disease. The charitable doctors come to their homes and say, we want to teach you take this medicine and be cured. They say how much will you pay me? How much will I Pay? I am giving you everything for free. They say, while for an abortion we can get two hundred rupees. What you can pay me? You do not pay me. I do not want your treatment. That is the condition. People are foolish. In America peoples have not only lots of money, they are highly educated. But they have as much as disease as in India. But the problem is different. Due to such an extremely and exorbitantly, unnatural life style. They have diseases that cannot be cured. The richest people in America, most of them go to psychiatrics. They have mental disease which is actually more afflicting and painful than physical disease. People do not commit suicide over physical disease very much. But mental disease people commit suicide, which means mental disease, anxiety, is more of the condition of suffering than physical disease. And as far as physical diseases, cancer, age, heart disease, these things are practically incurable. And it’s a big big problem, due to unrestricted sense enjoyment. Disease is a big big problem in this world. Birth, old age, disease, and death these are the four problems of life. Not how to have better food, not how can I get a better job, how can I get a nice family, how can I have nicer cloth, or how

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can I protect my reputation. These are not the problems. The real problems of life are birth, old age, disease, and death and with all of our scientific advancement and all of our persuade of economic development. No one is coming any closer to solving any of these four problems. There is only one solution to these four problems is Knowledge. Knowledge that birth, old age, disease, and death are only pretend to this physical temporary body. Inevitably …… they were sadhus. The solution is to understand that you are not this physical body but you are the eternal soul.

na jäyate mriyate vä kadäcinnäyaà bhütvä bhavitä vä na bhüyaù

ajo nityaù çäçvato 'yaà puräëona hanyate hanyamäne sarire”

Bhagavad-Gita 2.20For the soul, there is neither birth, old age, disease, or death. “na hanyate hanyamäne sarire”. The soul is not slain when the body dies. Bhagavad-Gita says, the soul cannot be cut into species by any weapon, it cannot be withered by the wind, it cannot be moistened by the water, it is indestructible and you are the eternal soul.

“väsäàsi jérëäni yathä vihäyanaväni gåhëäti naro 'paräëi

tathä çaréräëi vihäya jérëänyanyäni saàyäti naväni dehé”

Bhagavad-Gita 2.22That the body as a dress. It is like a garment. Just like today you have dressed. How longer your dress remain. You know inevitably by wearing it is going to be get worn out and to going to have – get another one. So what? What is the big deal? It is inevitable. Why do you attached to your cloths? You remain the same whole healthy being whether your cloth gets ripped up or not. So similarly when the soul is healthy, when the soul is in the knowledge, when you realize that you are the eternal soul, when you realize you are eternal blissful condition, then the problem of birth, old age, disease, and death, which are inevitable upon your body. No longer disturbs you. As long you are in the bodily concept of life, there is no question of lasting constant peace. The foolish materialist, they have their philosophy, why do you not like suffering. After all there was not suffering, you would not really be enjoyed the good times. Is not that what everyone says? If there was on the bad time, we would not appreciate the good times. This is because they have no conception of anything beyond this, happiness and distress. The dualities of material existence. The spirit soul is beyond dualities of material existence. The soul by his own nature is satchidananda vigrah. It is eternal, full of knowledge and full of bliss. Therefore Krishna says in Gita, One who is intelligent, he is a lumen from within and he is enlightening within, he is rejoys within. He finds his pleasure within. All the joy and glory of spiritual world is within your heart. If we left that behind, searching after the morasses of material existence. When we are in desert, do you expect to quench your thirst in a desert? No one quench their thirst in a desert. The desert is a place of hot sun and hot sand.

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But just keep you livened being in a desert there is from time to time so many morasses. A morass is a contact of the sun, heating the sand and it appears that there is a water. And you start running after that water thinking, Aha, now I will be happy. Now I am finding the success in the goal of my life. There is water to quench my thirst. Then you like a mad man. “ .” Srimad Bhagavatam says “one who is searching for – in this world is like a mad man, in sense chasing around morass in a desert”. What to hope to get? I tell what you get. You go to that morass and you say I’ll quench my thirst and put it in your mouth then it is hot sand. You spit it out. But there is a real pleasure. Another words the reason, why you are chasing after the morass of water in the desert, the illusion of water in the desert. Because there is somewhere real water. If there is not real water somewhere, you would not be thinking that that’s it. If there is no real money there would not be such counterfeit money. Counterfeit is imitation of what should be real. So real pleasure is within you, real water is within you. And in this world, there is simply the reflection or the image the illusion of that water outside of you. That you are constantly chasing after, chasing after, chasing after like the sand you are holding in your hands, but how long you can keep sand in your hands. It runs through your fingers and lost. The pleasure of the so called pleasures of this world that even if you think its pleasing and due course of time it’s gone. You can’t hold onto any thing. So therefore an intelligent man understands within nectar, -, whether real nourishment is. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has said.

“änandämbudhi-vardhanaà prati-padaà pürëämåtäsvädanaàsarvätma-snapanaà paraà vijayate çré-kåñëa-saìkértanam”

Caitanya-caritamrita antya 20.12That everyone is looking for pleasure. The pleasure, you are all seeking and searching and hunting for, throughout your life, through out your journey in this world birth after birth after birth, is right within your heart. And by chanting the name of the god, you can break open that store house of spiritual nourishment and enjoy eternally. By chanting the holy name of the lord we awaken the pleasure potency of god which is within our own heart. By the chanting of the transcendental sound vibration of Hari Nama, you can realize the eternal reality of our own existence. And through the simple process of chanting the holy name of god, we can solve all the problems. Once in for all of birth, old age, disease, and death. It is so simple. Man is making so many – arrangements to solve these problems and getting no where. It is getting worse and worse. The more you try to solve the problems of material life, the more you became entangle in the complexities of this existence. But simply by chanting god’s name, all problems would be solved. If you having a nightmare, you are dreaming that you are in a very difficult condition, the problem is not within the dream to be solved. The problem is simply to wake up. The spirit soul is sleeping. It’s dreaming. As soon as the soul simple wakes up to its reality there is no problems. The only problem in this world is lack of god consciousness. The only problem in this entire creation is lack of Krishna Consciousness. As soon as the Krishna Consciousness awakens within your heart, there is no problems.

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“oà pürëam adaù pürëam idaàpürëät pürëam udacyatepürëasya pürëam ädäyapürëam evävaçiñyate”

then you understand the truth. You know the truth is perfect and complete and everything emanating from the truth is perfect and complete. Everything is elimination on this absolute truth. Therefore in this god conscious condition of life you see, how everything is perfect and complete. And you can be fully satisfied in any condition, whether you are a businessman, a doctor, an agriculturist farmer, a video recorder man, house wife, mother, father, or lawyer. Whatever you may be, it does not matter. If you perform your duty in divine consciousness with realization of the soul’s relationship with supreme soul or God, self realization. Then you are like a lotus flower. A lotus flower can even grow in the muddiest place, but the lotus flower remains fresh and pure. The soul cannot be contaminated by any conditions of this world. This is the since of self realization. This is the goal of life. This is the only means of solving the real problems within our own life personally and if we really want to be the keeper of our brothers, the well wisher, lover, our family members, our fans, our society members, if you really want to be a true charitable well wisher of all living beings.

“bhärata-bhümite haila manuñya janma yärajanma särthaka kari’ kara para-upakära”

Caitanya-caritamrita adi 9.41Caitanya Mahaprabhu said those born in India, it is their birth right to be god conscious. Everyone else in this world, it is also their birth right to some extent. But their birth is very far comparatively to understanding these principles. So it is the duty and first and foremost responsibility of every human being, especially those who have the opportunity of they are born in India to perfect their own lives through the process of self realization and by giving the greatest charity of that same enlightenment throughout the world. And in this way we can actually tangibly practically and really solve the problems of life. So let us take this very seriously. For those who are just coming and trying to get some quittance with the philosophy of Krishna Consciousness. My humble request is that you seriously reflect on the subject matter that is being discussed to night. Because it does pertained to you, real value like the values of your life and really question what to I want. What is the goal? What is wide life? What is life to be bereft for? What is the quality I want to develop within my life? Is there god? Who is god? What is my relationship with god? What is real happiness? What is real love? Ask these questions? Do not simply leave this room and think oh, it was a nice lecture. We are not concern giving nice lectures. Our concern is not to convert people to this religion or to that religion. Our concern is simply that people take very seriously and contemplate on what is the true goal of life. What do I really want in life? What is human life meant for? And for those who have already accepted Krishna Consciousness my humble request, is that everyday we have to take an inventory and reevaluate our own goals, reevaluate our own

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commitments and try to purify and crystallize that seed of devotion within us. And question with the core of our heart what I am really doing to help the world and how can I do more? Thank you very much.

Is there any questions?

QD: God has created dog, hug, and human beings, everything is the creation of god. So how is that he is not providing dogs, hugs that thought of discriminating between good and white?

AM: Because it is the law of nature that if you do not use something you have, is taken away. Correct. Just like if your leg is put in a cast for six months, when you take up the cast you have to walk on crouches. Your leg has lost as ability to walk. Because it has used the facility that it has. Correct. Anything in this world if you not use it, then you lose it in due course of time. If you have the human birth, which is exclusively meant for self realization and you neglect to use it for that purpose. Then the lower species of life is a facility where you can try to enjoy the facilities of the physical body but you lose the opportunity for self realization. There are eight million four hundred thousands species of life of which eight million have no power to understand the goal of life, why? Because they have unfortunately waste the opportunity previously, so their soul is cast into those species of life. But each of those species is gradually evolving through the process of spiritual transmigration. Ultimately all species of life are coming closer and closer to the human form and after perhaps going to eight million species you come to the human form of life. There are four hundred thousands species of human life of which most of are uncivilized. When you finally come to a civilized condition of life than an only band you have the opportunity to perfect the needs of the soul. Then you are given discrimination, you are given intelligence and you are given the power to chose, which no others specie of life is awarded. The purpose of that independent choice, the purpose of that discrimination and intelligence is to examine “attvato brahma jinasa” to enquire and examine what is the goal of life? Who am I? What is god? And what is my relationship with god? If you utilize your good human birth for that purpose and emphasize that of course like the animal we have to maintain our physical bodies but that is not the goal. Like the animals we have to maintain our families, but that is not the goal. The goal is self realization. If you are not willing to use the goal of your life for that goal and pursue that goal then for one, who does not use they will lose. There is nothing more unfortunate than that. There is no greater misfortune than wasting the valuable opportunity of human birth.

QD: What does meant by self realization?

AM: We have already explained the difference between the body and the soul. Jesus Christ said be in this world but no out this world. The body will grow old, get diseased and die. If your pleasure is coming from the body, then all your

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pleasure for ultimate be frustrated. But if you are deriving pleasure from what is within, your happiness, your peace will never be frustrated. Because that pleasure is not subjected to the natural conditions of this physical world. That pleasure is on the spiritual platform. Consciousness is itself eternal. There is no such thing is temporary consciousness. Consciousness is the symptoms of the presence of the soul and all consciousness is eternal. Because all consciousness is emanating from god. It is directly connected to god, who is the supreme source of all consciousness. It is just like a sunray. You as part of god like a sunray and god is like the sun. Now even though a sunray may be on this earth is the sunray considered as it’s home considered to be earth or the sun? Which one? The sun ray is right here on the earth. But the home of the sunray is earth or the sun? Because it is coming form the sun. It is have the same qualities as the sun. It is not have the same qualities as the earth. It is not coming from the earth. It just happens to be here. But it connected to the sun. It is almost like hanging from the sun, right! So similarly are you conscious or unconscious? This world of matter is unconscious, all mater is unconscious. But the soul is conscious. Therefore the soul has nothing directly to do with this on conscious matter, although it’s happens to be here. But its connection and its source is god, who is the supreme source of all consciousness. So if you are relating yourself, if the sunray is thinking I am part of this world, this earth. It isn’t. But as long as you thinks is it, it is identifying with the deadness of this world, right, what of the sunray understands the real possession that my real connection is to the sun. My real source is the sun. My real nature is on part of the sun. Even the sunray on this world and is watching all the deadness of this world is not affected. So similarly when we understand that we are part of god, we are coming from god or our real home is god, we are eternally connected to god. Even though we know may be in this physical body, watching the dead body go through the process of old age, disease, and death. As long as we are remembering our connection to god, there is no suffering. The body is suffering, but the soul is finding its pleasure in god, not in this world. The soul is finding pleasure where real pleasure is within your own existence.

QD: We are experience so logically and rationally going so much sense and we can’t understand how we are the soul and identify we are not the body, then why it is so difficult for us to actually realize?

AM: You have a fighting chance, but you have to go and fight to take the chance. People are very conditioned. People are conditioned since time immemorial by their own activities and by their own choice to be hankering after the temporary flickering pleasures of this world. And therefore to revote your consciousness back again to your won virtuous qualities and relationship with god, takes a total transformation of our life we have the completely recondition our entire wave thinking our entire value system, which is not very easy thing. But then again if you want something valuable, you have to pray the price. If you want broken glass, you can pay anything for it. It does not

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cost much. If you want a diamond, you have to willing to pay. Nothing good in this world is cheep, unless you willing to recondition your life and reevaluate your values in life. Stand out from among man and be separate in your way of thinking. Then you are not the worthy of self realization. Simply by accepting the value and goal of life being god and god consciousness and chanting the holy names is not very difficult. But because of the social conditioning around us, is so – this. It appears difficult. But if we are in association of saintly persons, it makes it much easier. Because it is easier to recondition ourselves. That is why association with saintly persons is the most important part of our spiritual development. It makes it simple. Of course this is the age of Kali Yuga. The reason why a person takes birth in Kali Yuga is because of his karma is very very spiritually low. In Satya Yuga a hundred percent of the population was god consciousness. In Tretaya Yuga 75% of the whole population was god conscious. In Dwapara Yuga 50% of the population was god conscious. In Kali Yuga at the beginning hardly 25% and gets less and less than less. So the fact you born in Kali Yuga means it could be very difficult, why? Because of the whole atmosphere, environment all around you is so contaminated by illusion, ignorance, greed, lust and pride. It is very difficult to distract yourself from all the social pressures and all the atmospheric pressures, they are just driving you to materialistic ways, very difficult. Therefore in Kali Yuga god is so kind. Krishna is so Kind that He gives the process that is simple that anyone can perfect their lives. Kali Yuga you have no qualities. Everything around you is so against your persuade for spiritual life. Therefore in this age all you have to do is associated with sadhus and chant the holy names and you will attain perfection. Krishna is very kind. Because in other ages it is not very difficult. But in Kali Yuga it is so difficult. The Supreme Personality of Godhead gives such a simple process to compensate, so that anyone who has sincerity in the age of Kali can and will attain the perfection of self realization. But even though Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu the great avatar of Sri Krishna is coming and freely giving the holy name, freely giving the way to eternal peace to everyone still, he is begging just take it is free. Do not pay anything, just take it. Man woman, child, literate, illiterate, rich, poor, it does not matter. Just chant Hare Krishna. Nobody wants to do it. There – neighbors are say, there – friends and colleagues may say. Even no they understand. This is the unfortunate condition. But if you take the mercy of the lord, if you take the holy name, you are the most fortunate.

QD: Even we accept the first part is that if our intelligent can understand to the process but then again you are now saying that the simplest form the way in this world in this kali yuga is to chant. It is difficult for us to believe that – to them to remove right our senses on dignity and refinement and use our intellect to understand this process of detaching ourselves; we are the souls not the body. And who is control on chant, dance and do these childish activities. Is this only way to become relief?

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AM: Lord jesus said until you become like a child, you do not fit to enter into the kingdom of god. We are god’s children. The problem is, we are trying to be the master or we are trying to be the controller. We should accept the position; we are the humble child of god. The greatest philosophers and they ever steps on this earth, Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Rupa Goswami, Jiva Goswami what are they teaching. They were dozens and hundreds of books of the deepest scrutinizing philosophy ever seen by man and their conclusion is always is the same. That the realizations of this philosophy is to chant the holy names, to dance, to glorify the lord. The philosophy can show you the way. But the actual realization comes through the chanting of the name. I can described you honey, but until open the jar and taste it, you will never really know, what is honey? Philosophy can explain to you and convince you that honey is good. But until you open the jar and taste it you never actually be nourished. So the process of chanting and dancing which is introduced by Lord Caitanya which is recommended in Vedic literatures is not a childish activities to the saintly persons. People who in a false sense of false prestige are fighting over dignity and honor, that is totally childish. But some is willing to put all that side and chanting the holy names in ecstasy and dance, those persons are actually grown up. They grown beyond the superficialities of material life. Everything is child and everything is childish. Did you ever see over children, they have a toy and they say this toy is mine, no this toy is mine. I am a better player than you are. I want the grace. No no I want the grace, why? They are talking about their honor and dignity. I am the best football player and all of Khar. No no I am a best football player on all of Khar. But look at I can do like this but you cheated I did like this. They are fighting over their dignity and honor. Do you know children fight like this? But what is the parents think? What is such stupid dignity and honor? How to piety childishness? So the big big politicians and big big business man they are so attached to their honor to their dignity, which is all ahankar (false ego). The sadhu laugh and said it, how childish. When they will grow up.

QD: AS we are living spiritual souls, as we are originally Krishna Consciousness, why did be chews to be envious to the Krishna Consciousness. At that time why did you ….?

AM: The more important question is why did you continue to be envious? You are a doctor, a patient least treats help and gets sick. Why did he do it? Because he is crazy. The question is how can you done it? Now why do you continue it to do this? That’s the real question. He is the medicine. The real question is why do not you take the medicine and be cured. The fact is you are sick. You made a mistake. You have your freedom of choice. Freedom to love and has to include the freedom to leave, right. Without freedom there can be no love. So god gives us freedom. So if we misuse our freedom and we left god. We wanted to enjoy the position of god rather than accept the servant of god, accepts the service of the lord. So this material world is a place to facilitate those who want to live independent of the loving service to the lord,

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those who want to be the enjoyer rather than be the enjoyed. Why you came here? Because you have that independence. Because you have that right. But now you understand the predicament area. The real question is why do you remain here? Why do you remain in ignorance? Remaining in this world is no problem? We are not against this world? We are against the ignorance. Even if you are in this world, if you have knowledge, you are actually in this spiritual world. If your knowledge, you see this world is the spiritual world. But if you are in ignorance, you cannot see. The problem is ignorance. And the illusion to the problem is knowledge. Not theoretical knowledge but realize knowledge. And that comes through the simple process of hearing and the association of saintly persons and chanting the holy names. “Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/Hare Rama Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare”.

QD: Maharaja, you said that everyone should be chanting. How do we be chanting control over our populations?

AM: Because dogs, hogs, camels, and asses, their lives is based on the principle of ignorance. They do not know their real welfare. They do not know their real goal of life. They do not know their real treasure that is within themselves. This chanting opens the doors to liberation. This chanting awakens within you all knowledge. All knowledge is herein within the soul. All peace and prosperity is inherent within the soul. It is like sign that when the sun rises, how will we going to get the darkness of the night? What is your answer?

AD: The bright is …..

AM: So due to darkness of ignorance all these problems are taking place, every problem birth, old age, disease, and death. They are all due to darkness of ignorance. By the chanting of the holy names. The cloud of ignorance that is covering the sun of the soul is removed. And when that light emanates from the soul all darkness automatically dispelled.

“kåñëa—sürya-sama; mäyä haya andhakärayähäì kåñëa, tähäì nähi mäyära adhikära”

Caitanya-caritamrita Madhya 22.31That maya or ignorance like darkness and Krishna or knowledge is like the sun. In the presence of Krishna darkness cannot exists. In the presence of the sun darkness cannot exist. Krishna is within you. You are part of Krishna. When the light of the soul is uncovered it shines for the whole world gives light and no darkness can stand before you.

QD: How the population will be control?

AM: As long as you on the darkness, you cannot do, thinking wao in the darkness, what about thieves, what about the snakes, what about the scorpions. As long as you in the darkness there is no way you can understand

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the solution to the problems. But when the sun rises, automatically all the thieves and everyone else disappeared. Because such lowly creatures exists in the darkness. It is very easy. When you are self satisfied within, then you have controlled over your senses. When you have control over your senses and you only have a child, when you want have a child. That is the way population is supposed to be controlled by sense controlled. Through contraceptive, abortion, and family planning won’t account to control the population. But only going to disturb the very natural balance of this material existence and it could create havoc. Because it is an unnatural way of trying to control a natural urge, right. The natural remedy for birth control is sense control. Is it not? And only way you can control your senses is if you experiencing something higher. Otherwise you cannot give up these lower pleasures. When you realize the pleasure of the soul, when you experience the sweetness of the holy names, then you become in defend to these materialistic pleasures. And you can understand what the evolution of this world is? and what is coming to and you can actually act responsibly. To the degree more and more people are educated and experience these realizations to that degree this problem of the world will be solved. But in the mean time, if you not part of this solution, you are the part of the problem. You understand.

QD: God give this opportunity like, even there is some people, who listen about this and even they very very educated also. But it does not effect on them. Like god has given this opportunity to know education -. Why does not happen? Why should this happen? Because originally we have been Krishna Consciousness.

AM: That means they have the mentality of owls. You know, I do not know if in India youth say like this. But in the western civilization, when you are very wise, they say your wise is like an owl. Do you say like that here? The owls consider very wise. What is the wisdom of an owl? An owl only is awake in darkness. And owl sleeps all day when there is light and he comes awake when there is darkness. He is very expert. He looks very wise. He looks very saintly, just see he like this. He looks very wise and very grave. But actually he is a creature of the night. He is creature of darkness. His wisdom is wisdom within darkness. So the so called big big scholars in philosophers of this world, they are wise like owls. They are very expert at living in the darkness. Unless you willing to give up your occupation as an owl and sincerely try to transform your life and understand higher principles. Unless you are willing to humble yourself and accept that I do not know, please instruct me. Unless you are sincere and willing to become submissive, you cannot truly grasp spiritual concepts of life. And the fact is people are so proud of being owls. They are not willing to sincerely submit themselves and humble themselves before a teacher. And therefore even though they hear so many things and so many things makes sense to them. They want to remain wise in their world of darkness. They are not willing to come into the light. Because of they come in, if an own come into the light he no longer the wise man. He is just the regular

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old bird. As long as he is a creature of night, he is the wise owl. But in the day he is just an ordinary bird. So we are very proud of our prestigious condition in the darkness. If we take to spiritual life, we just have to humble our self and understand I am simply, I have to admit and I am just the in significant servant of god. Are you willing to do that? Very few people are. That is why, even they know come to lecture, they leave and they remain the same. Because they want to remain creatures of the night.