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Monday, 30th May 2011

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@ColinTGraham We werbe driving the curriculum... #mathMon May 30 19:35:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@stefras @KTVee I thinkhow, within the curriculum boundsMon May 30 19:38:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@reallara @ColinTGrahaAlthough lots of use of pupil choicMon May 30 19:39:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@ColinTGraham @MrHo100 items & you say prove/show/ Mon May 30 19:43:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@MrHonner @ColinTGrawhy the class needed to learn/proMon May 30 19:45:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@stefras @peterflom Whdriven learning? #MathChat Mon May 30 20:04:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@oldak @ekendriss Self-authoritarian teaching. All-or-nothiMon May 30 20:05:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@delta_dc @stefras @ewhen they first take the wheel - leMon May 30 20:05:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@downrightdave @Colibook and had me sit in the back aMon May 30 20:05:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @cherropportunities for reusing skills leaMon May 30 20:06:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras @delta_dc Butcreative leaders or passive followMon May 30 20:06:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@KTVee @stefras @ekestudent-driven math? where 2 beMon May 30 20:06:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id


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@delta_dc @oldak @ekelearners. This requires support, cMon May 30 20:06:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@peterflom @stefras I a#MathChat Mon May 30 20:07:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @cherrconnections were made too. MayMon May 30 20:07:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras @ColinTGraha#mathchat Mon May 30 20:07:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@delta_dc @ekendrissapprenticeship model. #Mathchat Mon May 30 20:08:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ekendriss @ktvee justMon May 30 20:08:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@frogphilp @peterflom 'and student negotiate the learninMon May 30 20:08:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @downyou could ask for help wheneverMon May 30 20:08:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras @KTVee Easewith lots of guidance. #mathchat Mon May 30 20:08:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @downwas 'good learning'? #mathchat Mon May 30 20:08:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@oldak @delta_dc @ekefor support, choice, modelling areMon May 30 20:08:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id


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@peterflom @delta_dcesp. in elem. school, are not closMon May 30 20:09:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @deltaattribute which can be addressedMon May 30 20:09:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras RT @ColinTGrwould ask if it was 'good learning'Mon May 30 20:10:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@delta_dc @oldak Tellthings. #Mathchat Mon May 30 20:10:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@ekendriss @delta_dc ymight skype with artist whose worMon May 30 20:10:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @ekenapt metaphor... remember learninMon May 30 20:11:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@peterflom @stefras Hethe linked article is about. http://oMon May 30 20:11:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@delta_dc @peterflom Smentor elem teachers in math asMon May 30 20:11:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@oldak @delta_dc Right,student-driven, if used to teacher-Mon May 30 20:11:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@stefras @delta_dc @olprojects, plenty of support. #mathMon May 30 20:12:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@downrightdave @frogMon May 30 20:12:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@peterflom Learn math tbadly. With teacher to help #MathMon May 30 20:12:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@frogphilp Interesting fo#mathchat Mon May 30 20:12:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @KTVneeds a basis of knowledge/comMon May 30 20:13:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@frogphilp @downrightdwe call it Primary... :-) #mathchat Mon May 30 20:13:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras @peterflom YeCapsulize it please. #MathChat Mon May 30 20:13:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@frogphilp RT @peterfloBy doing it badly. With teacher toMon May 30 20:13:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@delta_dc Sorry #Mathcthis problem for me while I'm gonMon May 30 20:13:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@reallara @delta_dc MoSo frustrating #mathchat Mon May 30 20:13:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id


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@ColinTGraham @oldakand expectations about how mathMon May 30 20:14:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras Agreed. RT @ppiano. By doing it badly. With teacMon May 30 20:15:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@delta_dc @reallara YeI'm gone! #Mathchat Mon May 30 20:15:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@oldak @delta_dc If motwho have learnt to oppose & defy,Mon May 30 20:15:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@earlsamuelson ........anMon May 30 20:15:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras @peterflom I hpaddle the canoe. #MathChat Mon May 30 20:15:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@peterflom @stefras OKbasketball. By doing it badly, withMon May 30 20:15:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @frogpeducation from primary teachers,Mon May 30 20:15:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id


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@ColinTGraham @reall'free' lesson could work with justMon May 30 20:17:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@oldak @ColinTGraham& undertake cognitively-demandinMon May 30 20:17:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@stefras @frogphilp I thiprograms for elem is dropped forMon May 30 20:18:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@frogphilp @stefras AgrJHS, SHS rather than elementary.Mon May 30 20:20:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@reflectivemaths @stefrconvincing ppl that maths doesn'tMon May 30 20:20:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @frogpfundamental concepts of mathemMon May 30 20:21:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id


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@stefras @ColinTGrahaemphasizes problem solving; basiMon May 30 20:22:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@peterflom @reflectivemwriting. #MathChat Mon May 30 20:22:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras @ColinTGrahathrough writing does not produceMon May 30 20:22:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@SusanDElia Kills the sp& undertake cognitively-demandinMon May 30 20:23:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@reflectivemaths @Colimake me a better teacher #mathcMon May 30 20:23:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@ColinTGraham @stefrthe Natnl curriculum as a crutch, rMon May 30 20:23:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@peterflom @reflectivemMon May 30 20:24:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@oldak What about hiddcovertly teach. Still teacher-drivenMon May 30 20:24:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras @reflectivematB.Ed. did nothing to teach me hoMon May 30 20:24:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@SusanDElia +1 RT @pto creative writing. #MathChat Mon May 30 20:24:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id


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@ColinTGraham @peter"progression of big ideas in mathMon May 30 20:25:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@reflectivemaths @peteunderstanding of what doing mathMon May 30 20:26:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras @reflectivematuse calculators unless trig, stats,Mon May 30 20:26:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @oldakup a level is basically a responseMon May 30 20:26:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @reflecinformed teacher after the MEd...Mon May 30 20:27:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras @ColinTGrahastudent-driven. #mathchat Mon May 30 20:27:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras @ColinTGrahateacher-, programmer-driven. #mMon May 30 20:28:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @stefrstudent could use to explore a topMon May 30 20:29:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@oldak @ColinTGrahambecause it entails a course/structMon May 30 20:29:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@ColinTGraham @ekenmathematical skills, I think. #mathMon May 30 20:32:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras @oldak Gamerules are math based. Can't advaMon May 30 20:33:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @Susayou can learn mathematics by waMon May 30 20:33:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@reflectivemaths @Colidon't know about? #mathchat Mon May 30 20:34:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@g4r37h @SusanDElia ssome teachers towards our GBL rMon May 30 20:34:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@ColinTGraham @Susacar...? Get your 'Gold Star' & youMon May 30 20:34:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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@oldak @stefras Analogdesigned to teach touchtyping. CMon May 30 20:35:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id

@stefras @ColinTGraharequires deliberate systematic solMon May 30 20:35:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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nDElia What's worse is that institutionaliching videos.... #mathchat

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: "Typing of the Dead" by Saga. Arcade-n't advance w/o learning #mathchat

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