99- Using Health Tracking to Discover Your Own ... · through his treatments that would extend his life. He wasn't expected to live to see our son born. He did live to see her son

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Episode99:UsingHealthTrackingtoDiscoverYour

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Child:WelcometomyMommy’spodcast.

Katie:ThispodcastisbroughttoyoubyFourSigmatic.IfyoufollowmeonInstagram,you'veprobablyseenmementionthembecauseIhavebeenusingandlovingandInstagrammingtheirproductsforyears.Theyhaveanamazinginstantmushroomcoffee.Hearmeoutbeforeyouthinkit'sweird.Iknow,mushroomcoffeedoesn'tsoundgood.It'snotonlythebestinstantcoffeeI'veevertried,it'salsoprettyhighuponthelistofbestcoffeeI'vetried.It'scheaperthancoffeeshopcoffeeandit'ssoconvenientbecauseit'ssoportableandittastessomuchbetter.Butitisn'tjustordinarycoffee.IthassuperfoodmushroomslikeLion'sMane,Cordyceps,andChagamushrooms.Andthesemushroomshavesomebighealthbenefits,andespeciallyimmunebenefits.Ipersonally,especiallylovethemfortheenergyandthementalclaritywithoutthejittersfromtraditionalcoffee.AnddidImentionhowgoodittastes?SoIalwaystaketheseinstantcoffeepacketswithmewhenItravel,andIalsoalwaysdrinkitathomethesedaysnowthattheyhaveabigtinthatlastsaboutamonthsoIdon'thavetoopenalittlepacketeveryday.Somefriendsofoursrecentlytraveledforthreemonthscarryingonlythebackpacksontheirbacks,andtheybroughtanentirethreemonthssupplyofthisinstantcoffeeintheirbagthathadlimitedspace.Inotherwords,thiscoffeebeatoutapairofjeansforhowimportantitwastomakeitinthebag.It'sthatgood.And,ofcourse,ifyouaren'tacaffeineperson,theyalsohaveavarietyofmushroomteaandotherproductsthatdon'thavethecoffeesoyoucangetthebenefitswithoutthecaffeine.AndIlovethemsomuchthatIreachedoutandtheyagreedtogiveadiscounttomylisteners.Sogotofoursigmatic.com/wellnessmamaandusethecode"WELLNESSMAMA"toget10%off.That'sFourSigmatic,F-O-U-R-S-I-G-M-A-T-I-C.com/wellnessmama.

ThisepisodeissponsoredbyKettleandFireBoneBroth.Ifyoulovethebenefitsofbonebrothbutdon’tlovethetimeittakestomakeandhowtoughitcanbetofindqualitybonestomakebroth,KettleandFireisforyou.Theirbonebrothisaregularstapleinmykitchenthesedaysandit’swhatIusetocreatetherecipesinmynewbonebrothebook.Sotheyonlyusebonesfrom100%grass-fedpastureraisedcattlethatarenevergivenhormonesorantibiotics.Theirbrothisalsouniquebecausetheyfocusonbonesthatareespeciallyhighincollagen,whichisoneofthehealthiestthingsyoucanputinyourbody.YoucanfindthematmanyWholeFoodsonthewestcoastandyoucanalsoorderonlineandgetadiscountatkettleandfire.com/mama.Again,that’skettleandfire.com/mama.

Katie:Hi,andwelcometotheHealthyMomsPodcast.I'mKatiefromwellnessmama.com,andtodayIwouldliketointroduceyoutomyfriend,AndreaNakayama.SheisabigdealintheworldoffunctionalmedicineandIhaveencounteredherresearchquiteabitinmyownresearch.She'sanutritionistwhospecializesinhelpingchronicallyillpeoplegetbetter.Infact,herskillsareverywidelyknownanddoctorsnowevenconsultwithherontheirowndifficultcases.Shenowactuallytrainsevenpractitionersinhowtohavethesametypeofclinicalsuccessthatshe'shad.Shealsohasanincredibleandamazingandheartbreakingpersonalstory,andIcan'twaittochatwithher.Andrea,welcome.Thankyou.


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Andrea:Thankyousomuch,Katie.I'msoexcitedtobeherewithyou.Katie:Well,I'mreallyexcitedtochat,andIalwayslovetostartwithsomeone'sstorybecauseIthinkitreallyhelpstoknowwheresomeone'scomingfrom.Youhadyourownhealthstoryandalsoanamazinglifestory,socanyoustartthereandtalkabouthowallofthesetriumphsthatyou'vehadcomefromthatandyourstoryofhowyougothere?Andrea:Yeah,absolutely,andIthinkit'ssotruethatmanyofusinthehealthspace,bothdealingwithourownhealthissuesandthoseofuswhoarehelpingotherswithhealthissues,wehaveoftenhadourownchallengesinthisarenaandforme,Iwasalwaysinterestedinfoodandhealth,butthingsreallykickedintohighgearwhenmyhusbandwasdiagnosedwithaveryaggressivebraintumorbackinAprilof2000whenIwasjustsevenweekspregnantwithourfirstchild.Andofcourse,thatwasreallyscary.Hewasgivenaboutsixmonthstoliveandduringthattime,wetook...youknow,wetooktheleadanddecidedweweregonnadoeverythingandanything.SothatrelatestowhatIcalla"yes,and"philosophy.It'snotlikewecouldsaynototheallopathictreatments.Wehadtosayyestothosebecauseitwasadiresituation,andwhatelsecouldwedoontopofthat?Soweintegratedeverythingandanythingwecouldthinkofthatwouldsupporthimthroughhistreatmentsthatwouldextendhislife.Hewasn'texpectedtolivetoseeoursonborn.Hedidlivetoseehersonbornandhedied2½yearslaterwhenoursonwas19monthsold.Sothatwasbackin2002,soI'vebeenasinglemomsincethen.Alsoremademycareer,putmyselfbackthroughschool,builtmywholebusiness,andlikeyousaid,Ihaveavirtualpractice.Wehaveprogramsforpeopleontheclientsideofthings,butIalsoteachpractitionersaroundtheglobe,andthat'sreallymypassion.SoallofthatthatIjustsharedwithyoualsoleadsintomyownhealthchallengesthatcameaboutalongtheway.Soasyoucanimagine,therewasatremendousamountofstresswhileIwaspregnant,andpregnancyinitselfisastressbecauseofthechanginghormonesthatcanleadtoautoimmuneorchronichealthconditionswhentheterrainisright,whenwehavetherightgeneticsandotherfactorsatplay.Andforme,therewasadditionalstressbecausetherewasthisscareandthisfearoflosingmybeloved,myhusband,sotherewastherightconditionstomanifestintoalaterdiagnosisofHashimoto's,whichIhadtodiscovermyselfbecausenobodywasproperlyidentifyingit.Thefieldhaschangedtremendouslyasyouknow,Katie,butitwasveryhardinthosedaystogetadiagnosisandtofigureoutwhattodo.Andfastforward,hereIam,likeyou,completelymanagingmyownchronichealthconditionsandteachingotherstodothesame.Katie:Yeah,andIknowwebothhavehadthethyroidstrugglesinthepastandIwanttoreallydefineforanyonewho'slistening.Ithinkthetermfunctionalmedicineisusedalot,butcanyoutalkaboutthedifferencebetweenfunctionalmedicineandfunctionalnutrition,andwhywhatyoudoissospecificallyunique?Andrea:Yeah,Iwouldloveto.So,youknow,Ireallywanttoapplaudfunctionalmedicine,andwhatIdoisaderivativeofthoseprinciples.Andthoseprinciplestome,theprimaryprinciplesarethatweworkinpartnership,thephysicianorthepractitionerandthepatientworkinpartnership,thatwearealwayslookingfortherootcause,sowe'reasking“why”,notjust“what”sowe'renotjustsaying,"Oh,youhavethissign,symptomordiagnosis.Here'swhatyoudo."Insteadwe'resaying,"Whoareyouandwhatdoweneedtodointhissituationforyou?"Andthatweworkinsystems.Andthosesystemsarereallyabouttheinterconnectionofthesystemsinthebody,aswellashowweprovidesystemsinwhichpeoplecanthinkintoandtakepersonalcare.SooneofthethingsthatIalwayssayaboutfunctionalmedicineisthatwesay,outofthosethreetenetsthatIjustshared,thatthepractitionerandthepatientworkinatherapeuticrelationshipandpartnership,andwhenwehearthat,weapplaudthedoctor.AndIwouldliketoshiftthatandreallyapplaudthepatientandenablethepatienttobecomeapartnerintheirownhealthcare,andthat'swheretherealmof


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functionalnutritioncomesin.SoIcallthepractitionersthatItrain"nutritionandlifestylepractitioners"becausewearereallyhelpingapatienttoaltereverythingthattheydosothatthey'remakingadifferenceineverylittlewaythattheycan,withwhattheyeat,howtheytakecareofthemselves,sotheyaretheherointheirownhealthjourney.Soforme,afunctionalnutritionistisusingtheprinciplesoffunctionalmedicine,butapplyingthemtodietandlifestylemodificationandreallytakingthepause.It'sreallyaboutadifferentlensinthanourtraditionalallopathicorconventionalwayoflookingatthingsintermsof,"Here'stheproblem.Therefore,hereisthesolution."We'realwaysaskingwhy.Doesthatmakesense,Katie?Katie:Yeah,itabsolutelydoes.Ithinkthatisdefinitelyadifferencewithconventionalmedicine,too,whichismuchmore,ofcourse,gearedtowardjusttreatingthesymptoms.Ithinkthat'sgonnabehopefullythenextwaveofreallyimportantresearchandmedicineisgonnabefindingthatrootcause,andofcourseyou'realreadydoingit.So,canyoukindoftakeusthroughyourapproachwiththisandhowyouaddressthiswhensomeonecomesintoyou?Andrea:Yeah,absolutely,andIalsojustwanttosaythatalotoftimes,weaspatientsstillapplythattypeofthinkingbecauseit'ssokindof...we'resoprogrammedtothinkabout,"Oh,Ihavethissymptom.What'sthesolution?"thatwesometimesapplythateventofunctional,integrativeorholisticcare.Westillthinkthere'sonething,oneperson,who'sgonnasolvealltheproblems,andthatjustisn'tthewayitgoes.Weactuallyknowourselves,aspatients,betterthananyoneelsesowehaveaveryelaboratesystemofcareinourcounselingserviceswherewegatheratremendousamountofinformationabouttheindividualbeforewewillevenmakeanyrecommendations.Soinourcounselingservices,thefirstthingpeopledooncethey'reinthedoorisgothroughatwo-partsessionwheretheyworkwithanintakespecialistwho'sonlycreatingafunctionalnutritiontimeline.She'snotgivinganyrecommendationsatall.She'sactuallycollectingmoreinformationthanweevengetfromourdetailedintakeformbecauseweneedtostopandweneedtopause,andthat'skindofthethemeofwhatIwanttotalkabouttodaywithyou,Katie,intermsoflikewhatarethehacks?Thehackmightbeinthepausethatweneedtotaketolistenin.Sowetakethattimeinourcounselingtoaskthequestionsthatnobodyelseisasking,tomaketheconnectionsthatnobodyelseismaking,andoftentimes,ourpatientsgainatremendousamountofvaluejustfromusaskingquestionsthattheyhaven'tthoughtofthemselvesornobody'sthoughttoaskthembefore.Thatsaid,Iliketotakepeoplethrough,andourthinkingisthroughwhatIcallthethreetierstoepigeneticmasteryandifIcould,I'dliketobreakthatdownbecauseweareoftenthinkingabout,likeIsaid,whatisthesolutionforthisconditionorthissignorsymptom?Andwhenwe'reworkingthroughafunctionalnutritionperspective,we'relookingforaresolution.Notsolution,butresolution,whichmeanswehavetodigdeeper.Inordertodothat,thatthreetiersisveryimportantforustopayheedto,andepigenetics,justtodefinethatforaminute,istheterraininwhichtheconditionexists.Soourgenesarewrappedinwhatarecreatedbytheenvironment,byourlifestyle,byourdiet.Everythingthatsurroundsusimpactsthegenesandtheexpressionofthegenes.SowhenItalkaboutthethreetierstoepigeneticmastery,I'mbasicallytalkingabouthowdietandlifestylemodificationcantotallyshifttheterraininwhichthosesigns,symptomsordiagnosisexists.SobeforeIgoon,Katie,anythingthatyouhavethatyouwanttoaskmeaboutbeforeItalkaboutthosethreetiers?Katie:Yeah,let'sdivein.Andjustifyouhaveanyspecificsrelatedtothyroid.IfeellikeyouandIareboth...havebeenthereandalsoare...kindofthat'sourapproach,soifyoucanweaveinanythingrelatedtothethyroidasyougo,thatwouldbeawesome.


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Andrea:Yeah,absolutely.Sotieroneformearethenon-negotiables,andthenon-negotiablesarethethingsthatwedetermineworkordon'tworkforus.SoIthinkasweknowandasmostpeopleinyourcommunityknow,Katie,anon-negotiableforthoseofuswiththyroidissues,particularlytheHashimoto's,istheremovalofglutenfromourdiet.Sothere'senoughevidence,there'senoughscientificresearchthatshowsustheimpactofgluten,sothatbecomesanobviousnon-negotiable.Forme,othernon-negotiablesforthyroidhealtharegonnabetheremovalofrefinedsugarbecausebloodsugarmanagementisgonnabecomeverykeyinourthyroidhealthbecauseoftheconnectionthatthosesystems,thosewebofinteractionsbetweenthehormones.Ournon-negotiablesaregonnalookdifferentforeachandeveryoneofus,sosomeofthosearegonnabeacrosstheboardthesame.Andinourcounselingservices,wewillnotseeanybodywho'sstilleatingrefinedsugar,glutenordairy.Iftheycomein,theyhavetogothrougha25-dayeliminationdietbeforetheywillgointocounselingbecausethosearenon-negotiablesforthetypeofclientsthatseeus,butournon-negotiablesaredifferent.Anon-negotiableformeismakingsurethatI'minbedandgoingtosleepby10:00.10:00-10:30ismystretchpoint.Youknow,bythen,I'mstartingtocompromisemysleep.Soweeachneedtogointothatpauseandfigureoutwhatareournon-negotiables?Anon-negotiablemaybehavingfamilydinnerwithyourfamilyfourtimesaweek,atleast.Itmaybegoingtothegymacertaintime.Itmaybeyouryogapracticeoramassage.Yournon-negotiablesareuniquetoyouandyouneedhelpsometimesfiguringoutwhattheyare.Itmaybethatyouhaveparticularfoodintolerancesorsensitivitiesandyouhavetotuneinandfigurethoseout.Sotieronearethenon-negotiables,andtheycanbeinanyareaandreallyneedtobethethingsthatyouknowsupportyou,andthosearebroughtin,andthosethatimpactyouaretakenout.Soanyquestionsthatyouhave,Katie,orlikethatyouwanttosharethatyou'vefoundarenon-negotiablesforyou?Katie:Yeah,soIthinkyou'reright.It'sdefinitelyfindingyourown,anditwasalongprocess.Forme,itwasalongprocesseventogetadiagnosisandtogettogroundzerotostart.Butovertheyears,InowfeellikeI'minaplaceof,Iwouldsay,remission.Mylevelsaregreat.Mybloodlevelsaregreat.I'mevenworkingontaperingoffofmedicationnow.Butthenon-negotiablesforaresleep,whichismynemesis.Ihavetheworsttimetryingtogettosleepjustbecausewithsixkids,there’salwayssomeoneworkingagainstme.Andrea:Totally.Katie:That'sahugeoneandwhenIgetthatright,prettymucheverythingelsefallsintoplace.Ialsodoreallywellonprettyhighdosesofomega-3s.AndthenI'mfindingmoreandmoreIusedto...well,IamverytypeAandI'vealwaysjustbeenkindoflikeapedal-to-the-metalperson,andjustlikepowerthrough,getdone,andI'mlearningasIgetoldertheimportanceofself-careandmakingtimeforcommunityandtimeforrest.Sothoseareprobablynotthesexiestanswers,buttheonesthatreallyhelpmerightnowthatI'mworkingthrough.Andrea:Yeah,andyouknow,partofwhatwe'retalkingabouttoday,Iworrythatitfallsintothenon-sexyrealm,butsomanypeopleneedthisconversationaboutwhatitreallytakessoI'mgladthatyoubroughtthoseup.Andtotallywhatyousaid,thosearenon-negotiablesforyouandyou'vefigurethemoutovertime,andit'saprocessoftrialanderrorwherewemaybetakesomethingoutandthenputitin.Orconversely,weputsomethinginlike,yes,I'mgonnagogetacupunctureeveryotherweekandI'mgonnainvestinthat,andwetakeitoutandwefind,oh,youknow,I'mnotreadytotakethatout.Thatwasactuallyverysupportive.Soallthethingsinourlifeandlifestylethatwefindbecomenon-negotiables,andfiguringthoseoutforourselvesisverykeyandsometimes,likeIsaid,weneedhelp.Alotofwhatwedoincounselingservicesisgothroughthatwhenit'sveryconfusing,andIthinkofthatasclearingthemuddywaterbecauseoftentimes,we'reracingaheadtothenexttiersandwearenotabletofindthatsustainableresolutionbecausewebypassclearingthe


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muddywaters.Whenweclearthemuddywaters,wecanactuallyseewhatweneedtodonext.Sonon-negotiables,we'respendingmoretimetherethanpeoplemightthink,anditdoesatremendousamounttoknowthoseforyourselfandtobeabletomanageyourownhealthcareinthatway.Sotiertwoiswherewe'relookingatgoingfromdeficiencytosufficiency,andthatcanbeanumberofthings.Soifwelookatthyroidhealth,thereareanumberofnutrientsthatweknowarepartofhowthethyroidfunctions.So,factorsthatcontributetoproperproductionofthyroidhormonesincludeironandzincandselenium,andcertainvitaminslikevitaminEandvitaminB,severaloftheBvitamins,vitaminC,vitaminD.Sothoseareallareaswecouldbeexperiencingdeficiencies,buttherecouldbeotherdeficienciesthatweexperience.Wecouldhaveadeficiencyincertainsecretionslikestomachacidwhichactuallyhelpsustobreakdownourproteins,utilizethem,andalsogainbetterironlevelssothatwe'renotdeficientiniron.Therecouldbedeficiencyinadrenalhormones.Wecouldbe,youknow,depleted.Katie,youmentionedsixkidsandhowomega-3sareoneofyoursaviors,oneofyournon-negotiables.Withsixkids,you'regonnahavedepletedyourselfofyouromega-3sbecauseyou'reconstantly,throughpregnancy,givingitawaytobuildthatnervoussystemforyourbaby,soyourepletingthoseandbringingthoselevelstosufficiencyisbothtieroneandtiertwo.Sowestarttolookat,throughlabsandworkingwithanappropriatepractitioner,andalsothroughlookingatourownlife,likewheremightwebedeficientinloveandsupportandrelationshipsthatreallyfuelus?Whatarethedeficienciesandhowdowethinkaboutmovingthoseintosufficiency?Youknow,thesecancomeupinanumberofways,physiologically,likeifyouhavecertaingeneticsnipsthatyoumayhaveheardaboutlikeanMTHFR.Wheremightyoubedeficientinfolate,andhowdoesthataffecthowyou'reutilizingyourthyroidhormone?It'skindoflikeamore3-Dperspectiveontheentireterrain,asopposedtothinkingverylinearly.Doesthatresonate,Katie?Katie:Yes,absolutely.Andrea:Yeah,great.Soagain,Tieronearethenon-negotiables,andforthyroidhealth,weneedtothinkaboutwhat'sinthediet,what'sinflammatory.Ican'teateggs.Ican'teatcowdairy.Youknowittakestimetofigurethatout.Somepeoplecan'teatnutsandseeds.Icaneatnutsandseeds.Youhavetofigureout,canyoueatnightshades?Canyounoteatnightshades?Thoseareallpartoftheterrainthatweneedtofigureoutinournon-negotiables.Deficiencies,someofthemyoumightbeabletothinkofonyourown,andsomeofthemyoumightneedtobeworkingwithapractitionertounderstand,amIdeficientinvitaminD?Andwow,vitaminDisafactorthatcontributestotheproductionofmythyroidhormonesandit'shelpingmetomanagemyimmunehealth,andthosearecontributingtomythyroidorHashimoto'shealth,sowhereisthatadeficiencythatneedstobeaddressed?AndIjustwanttogobackheretosayingthatthe"yes,and"situationisokay.Alotoftimesintheholisticorintegrativespaces,we'reanti-medication.Wethinkthatmaybewefailedbecauseweneedmedication,andIreallythinkit'sawholepictureandthat'swhyasafunctionalmedicinenutritionist,I'mlookingatdietandlifestyle,butI'mnotsayingfoodistheresolutionandI'mdoingthesamethingthedoctorisdoing,butwithfood.Itsometimesisapartnershipandweneeddifferentpractitionerstobringinwhatthey'reabletodo,toaddressdeficiencies,toaddressnon-negotiables,tomanageasituation.SoIjustwanttomakesurethatnobodyfeelslessthaniftheirbodyneedssomekindofhelpthatiscomingfromaprescription.Katie:Yeah,Ithinkthat'sagoodpoint,andonethatfunctionalmedicineisexcellentatisthatholisticapproachandnotevertheblameorthejudgment,justfindingtherootcausesandaddressingthosegentlyandcarefully,soIthinkthat'sanexcellentpoint.


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Andrea:Yeah,it'sreallyimportantthatwelookatthewholepicture,andtherearecertainmedicationsthatI'mnotgonnacondoneorI'mgonnaworryabout,andsometimesweevenneedthoseasscaffoldingorasteppingstonetobeabletomanageasituation.Sowhereveryouareinyourjourney,Ijustwanttoapplaudeverybodyforlisteninginfortheself-careandforlookingfor"Whereismynextstep.WhatdoIneedtodonext?"AndIhopethatthislenshelps,thatwe'reabletosay,"Waitaminute.Letmejuststopandthink.HaveIaddressedallmynon-negotiablesandarethereanydeficienciesthatIneedtobethinkingabout?"Andagain,goingbacktothyroidhealth,seleniumandzinc,asI'msureyou'vetalkedaboutmanytimes,Katie,thosearetwonutrientsthatarekeyforourthyroidproductionandalsohelpingusconverttheinactivethyroidhormoneT4totheactivethyroidhormoneT3.Wealsowanttothinkaboutcellularsensitivity.Wehavethyroidreceptorsinallofourcells,andthingslikevitaminAandagainzinchelpwiththatcellularsensitivity,andsodoesexercise.Sojustthinkingaboutwhatarethethingsthatwecanbedoingtohelpourbodiesdealwiththedeficienciesthatmaybeapartoftheexpressionofthesymptoms.Insteadofjustsaying,"Ihavethissymptom.LetmeputaBand-Aidonit."It'saskingwhy,sokeepingcomingbacktotheseprinciples.Thethirdtierinthethreetierstoepigeneticmasteryiswherewestarttodismantlethedysfunction,andforme,thatdysfunctionisreallyaboutwhatwemightcalltheinfection,andthisisthestagethatalotofpeoplearejumpingtofirstandforemost.Oh,IhaveHPyloriorIhaveCandidaorhaveGiardia,oryouknow,anyotherinfectionthat...Epstein-Barr.We'reseeingthesedifferentinfectionsandwethink,"Gorightforthat."Therearetimeswhenweneedtogorightforthatandreallyaddressit,butwealsoneedtobethinkingabouttieroneandtiertwo.AndwhatIwanttosayhereisthatwhenwebypasstieroneandtiertwo,it'sveryhardforthebodytosustaintheremediesthatwe'rebringinginbecauseit'snotyetinbalance.Theterrainhasnotbeenaddressedsothatwhateverthesolutionisthat'sbeingbroughtincanstick.SowhatI'mtalkingabouthereisreallylikewe'retendingtothesoilinwhichtherootsaregrowing.Ifwejusttrytohealtherootsandwehaven'taddressedthesoil,it'sveryhardforthebodytostickinthatplace.Sowhenwethinkaboutdysfunction,it'sreallywherediseasestartsfrom.Sowecanthinkabouttriggersorprecipitatingevents,andthat'swhatleadstoanappearanceofadiagnosis.So,thosedysfunctionsarethoseinfectionsandtheydoneedtobeaddressed,butweneedtothinkabouttheminaterrain,andsometimesthegoodnewsisthatifwedealwithtieroneandtiertwo,thebodycanactuallyfighttheinfectiononitsown,whichisprettydarncoolbecauseourbodiesaremeanttodothat.Andsometimesweneedhelpaddressingtheinfection,butwe'regonnabebetterabletodothatwhenwehaveaddressedthatterrain,thatsoil,thattierone,tiertwoenvironment.So,thosearethethreetiersIthinkabout,andIreallyencourageeverybodywho'sworkingwithanythyroidissuestostopandthinkaboutwhereyouarewithmakingsurethatthewholeenvironmenthasbeenaddressed.Katie:That'sgreatandIthinkyou'reright.Ithinksooften,peoplewanttojustjumpintotheirthree,tothesolutionsandthebigneedlemoversandtheydon'tdothefoundationalworkthatmakesthebigdifference.AndIknowmaybealotpeoplelistening,thiswascertainlythecaseforme.It'shardtofindapractitionertoworkwith,especiallyinalotofareaslikewhereIlive.

Katie:ThispodcastisbroughttoyoubyFourSigmatic.IfyoufollowmeonInstagram,you'veprobablyseenmementionthembecauseIhavebeenusingandlovingandInstagrammingtheirproductsforyears.Theyhaveanamazinginstantmushroomcoffee.Hearmeoutbeforeyouthinkit'sweird.Iknow,mushroomcoffeedoesn'tsoundgood.It'snotonlythebestinstantcoffeeI'veevertried,it'salsoprettyhighuponthelistofbestcoffeeI'vetried.It'scheaperthancoffeeshopcoffeeandit'ssoconvenientbecauseit'ssoportableandit


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tastessomuchbetter.Butitisn'tjustordinarycoffee.IthassuperfoodmushroomslikeLion'sMane,Cordyceps,andChagamushrooms.Andthesemushroomshavesomebighealthbenefits,andespeciallyimmunebenefits.Ipersonally,especiallylovethemfortheenergyandthementalclaritywithoutthejittersfromtraditionalcoffee.AnddidImentionhowgoodittastes?SoIalwaystaketheseinstantcoffeepacketswithmewhenItravel,andIalsoalwaysdrinkitathomethesedaysnowthattheyhaveabigtinthatlastsaboutamonthsoIdon'thavetoopenalittlepacketeveryday.Somefriendsofoursrecentlytraveledforthreemonthscarryingonlythebackpacksontheirbacks,andtheybroughtanentirethreemonthssupplyofthisinstantcoffeeintheirbagthathadlimitedspace.Inotherwords,thiscoffeebeatoutapairofjeansforhowimportantitwastomakeitinthebag.It'sthatgood.And,ofcourse,ifyouaren'tacaffeineperson,theyalsohaveavarietyofmushroomteaandotherproductsthatdon'thavethecoffeesoyoucangetthebenefitswithoutthecaffeine.AndIlovethemsomuchthatIreachedoutandtheyagreedtogiveadiscounttomylisteners.Sogotofoursigmatic.com/wellnessmamaandusethecode"WELLNESSMAMA"toget10%off.That'sFourSigmatic,F-O-U-R-S-I-G-M-A-T-I-C.com/wellnessmama.

ThisepisodeissponsoredbyKettleandFireBoneBroth.Ifyoulovethebenefitsofbonebrothbutdon’tlovethetimeittakestomakeandhowtoughitcanbetofindqualitybonestomakebroth,KettleandFireisforyou.Theirbonebrothisaregularstapleinmykitchenthesedaysandit’swhatIusetocreatetherecipesinmynewbonebrothebook.Sotheyonlyusebonesfrom100%grass-fedpastureraisedcattlethatarenevergivenhormonesorantibiotics.Theirbrothisalsouniquebecausetheyfocusonbonesthatareespeciallyhighincollagen,whichisoneofthehealthiestthingsyoucanputinyourbody.YoucanfindthematmanyWholeFoodsonthewestcoastandyoucanalsoorderonlineandgetadiscountatkettleandfire.com/mama.Again,that’skettleandfire.com/mama.

Katie:Solet'sgetreallypracticalforawhile.Canyouwalkthroughhowyouwould...likehowsomeonecouldgoaboutfindingtheirownnon-negotiablesandtheirownsolutionsfordeficiencies,eveniftheydon'tliveinanareawheretheycanworkwithsomeoneone-on-one?Iknowyouhavealotofinformationthatyou'vewrittenaboutthis,andI'lllinktoalotofthose,butlet'stalkthroughsomeofthepracticalstepsthatpeoplecantake.Andrea:Yeah,absolutely.AndIdowanttosaythatweworkwithpeopleacrosstheglobe.Mycliniciscompletelyvirtualandthereareotherfunctionalpractitionerswhoworklikethisaswell,sotherearepeopleouttheretohelpyouifyou'relookingforsomebodytoholdyourhand.AndIreallybelievethatthere'salotwecouldbetrackingonourown,andsometimesIgetmyhandslapped,Katie,forliketalkingabouttracking.Likeit'stoomuchtroubleforpeopletodoit,butthere'ssomuchinformationthatcomeswhenwestarttocapturethisinformation,andonethingIliketodoistrackfood,"mood"andpoop,andmoodissomethingIputinquotationsbecauseit'sreallyanysignorsymptomthatcomesup.AndIencouragepatientstodothisveryobjectively,sowe'renotgettingsuperanalytical.We'rejustcapturinginformationtobeginwith.SometimesIwillhavepeoplejuststartlistingoutyourfood,whatyouateinaday,andI'mnotlookingforquantities.I'mjustlookingforwhatisit.Thenextthingwecandofromtheretogetkindofplayfulistakeoutourcoloredpensormarkersandgothroughfivedaysoftrackingourfood,andactuallycircleorhighlightwhatcolorsweateinadaybecausesomeofthosedeficienciesthatwemaybeexperiencingcanbecomingfromalimiteddiet.Sothesehealingdietsthatmanyofusgoonaren'tmeanttolastlong-term.We'renotmeantto


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beonthemforalongtime.Ifweareonahealingdietforalongtime,there'slikelyinternalhealingandworkthatneedstobedonethathasn'tyetbeendone,andthatmightbewhereyouneedsomepractitionersupport.Buttakingoutthosepens,thosehighlighters,andlookingatamIgettingenoughFidonutrientsinmydiet?AmIgettingenoughcolorinmydiet?Becauseagain,thosehelpwiththeoxidativestressthatcanbeleadingtoinflammation.Theyhelpwithtamingtheinflammationinthemanyways,andtheyhelpwithsomeofthenutrients,themineralsthatweneedforcellularhealth.So,that'sstepone.Youknow,justtrackyourfood,notsomething...youknow,itdoesn'tseemlikeit'smindblowing,butitcanbe.I'malwayssurprisedwhenIgobackanddosomefood-mood-pooptracking.There'salotofimprovementthatIcanmakethatIdon'tthinkIcouldmakewhenI'mjustdoingmynormaleverydaything.Haveyoueverfoundthatyourself,Katie?Katie:Yeah,absolutely.IthinkthatthedataisreallyhelpfulandIthinkoften,ourperceptionofwhatwe'redoingorwhatwe'reeatingisdifferentthanthereality,especiallywhenwe'rebusy.Andrea:Yeah,totally.Andyouknow,Iknowwhatit'sliketobebusyandyoudo,too.ThenextthingIwouldencouragepeopletodoasthey'rebuildingtheirwaythroughistotrackyourpoop,andIliketosaythatpoopisoneofourbiggestdiagnostictoolsthatwehaveaccesstorightthere.Ittellsusalot.SoI'mnottellingyoutogofishingintothebowl,buttakealookafteryougotothebathroomandifyoudothatinrelationto"whatamIeatinginadayandwhendoIpoop,"thenyoulearnalotaboutyourselfandyoualsogathermoreinformationtotaketoapractitioner.Sowiththyroidhealth,weoftenhavepeoplewhoareexperiencingconstipationbecauseitaffectsmetabolismallthewaythroughthebody,andsoalotofpeoplearehavingconstipation.Somepeoplealsoarehavingdiarrhea.There'sthingswecandotheretohelpthesystem,andit'salsoverytelling.So,trackingyourfood,trackingyourpoop,noticingifthere'sanysignificantchangesthathappeninrelationtowhatyoueat.Ifyouhaveagreensmoothiethathasmorefiberinit,doyouhaveabettereliminationthanifyouhavebonebrothinthemorning?Youknow,youstarttojustbeabletosee"whatisitthatistrueforme,"becausewe'reeachdifferent,andwhatanybodysaysistheperfectbreakfastmaynotbetheperfectbreakfastforyou.Sotrackingyourfoodandyourpoop,andthenIstartedtoaddinwhatIcall"mood,"andmoodisn'tjusthowyoufeel.It'skindofthemoodofyourbody,whichiswhyputitinquotes.Soanysignorsymptomthatyoumayexperiencethroughtheday,andaswestarttokeepafood-mood-poopjournal...andagain,justobjectivelycaptureinformation.Thisisn'taboutnavel-gazing.It'sabouttrackingandthensteppingbackandseeingwhatwemightbeabletodetectfromthatinformation,basedonthatobjectivity,orbeingabletotakethatinformationtoapractitionerwhoisabletoworkwiththat.That'sgonnabeahugetool.Soweactuallywon'tseepeopleattherecommendationpartofcounselingwithoutlookingatafood-mood-poopjournalbecauseittellsussomuch.Ican'tbelievehowmuchinformationIgetfromapatient'sjournaling.Eveniftheydon'tknowthatthey'recapturinganydetailthat'srelevanttome,itdoestellusalot.Andforyouasapatient,justtrackingandseeingifyoucanderiveanyinformationoranytrendsorcluesfromthepatternisatremendousup-levelingofyourpatternsofbehavior.Doyouhaveanyquestionsaroundthat,Katie,thatIdidn'tspeakinto?Katie:No,that'sgreat,andIthinkyou'rerightthatjustsometimeshavinganawarenessaboutsomethingandpayingattentiontoit.Likesomeonestrugglingwithahealthproblem,theymaynoticesomethingthatwasthereallalongthattheyweren'treallylookingfor.Iwanttomentionyoudohaveane-bookaboutthisfood-mood-poopchallenge,andtherewillbealinktothatintheshownotesforanyone.It'safreebookthattheycanusetotrackthis.Isthatright?Andrea:Yeah,absolutely,anditwalksusthroughthatprocessalittlebitmoreandwhyandwhatwemightbe


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lookingfor.Soyeah,I'dloveeverybodytogettheirhandsonthat,andwewillhavealinktoit.Katie:Andsoobviouslyeverythingis...definitelythere'sapersonalizedaspect,butaretherethings,especiallyintherealmofthyroid,thatyou'reseeingmostcommonlyorthatpeoplecouldmaybebeonthelookoutforintheirownlivesandtheirownhealth?Andrea:DefinitelynutrientdepletionhasIthinkcomeupalot.Sowetendtoseewhatwecallthebigbigs,andlatelywe'resayingthehugebigs.Sothesearepeoplewhohavebighealthissuesandthey'vealreadytakenalotofstepsandalotofeffort,sothey'renoteatingglutenorsugarordairy.Infact,theymaycomeineatingthreefoodsbecausethat'salltheirstomachcantolerate.AndwhatIwanttosayisthatthese,likeIsaidbefore,theselimiteddietsactuallyleadtomorenutrientdepletionandcancausemorehealthchallengesbecauseeverycellinourbodyneedsadiversityofnutrientscominginallthetime.Thisiswhydietandlifestylematterinordertoheal,soit'simpossibleforthebodytodoitsworkandfindhomeostasisinadeprivedenvironmentwithdeprivedintake.SooneofthethingsIseealot,Katie,isthatpeoplearelimitingtheirfoodoutoffear.They'relimitingtheirfoodbecausethey'reworriedaboutsymptomsorbecausetheunderlyingrootcauseofthesymptomsinresponsetothefoodhasnotbeenaddressed.Sothey'resaying,youknow,"I'vedonethisandthishelpsalittlebit,butI'mstillnotfeelingmybest,butIbetternotbringanythingin."AndI'mnotsayingtobringinthethingsthataremostoffensivetoyourparticularsystem,butwedoneedadietthathasmorediversity.Sothat'sonethingIreallyjustwanttoputoutthere,especiallytoyouraudience,Katie,who'smoreadvancedandmorefurtheralongintheconversation,isthatnutrientdepletionissomethingweseealotinthispopulationofadvancedhealthadvocates,youknow,self-healthadvocates.Also,letmejustthinkintermsoflikewhatelseareweseeingintermsoffood-mood-pooptracking?Ithinkyou'resayingwethinkwe'reeatinghealthier.Ioftenseenotenoughfibrousvegetables,notenoughplantproteins,soweliketothinkofthemosthealingdietassortofaplant-poweredPaleooraplant-poweredPaleo-Mediterranean-typedietwiththennuancesthatarespecificfortheindividual,andalwaysbringingbackwhateverwecanandwhateverthebodywilltolerate.SoIthinkwedeceiveourselvesalot.Ithinkwemaynotreallyconnectwhat'shappeninginourbodieswithwhatwe'redoing,andthenontheflipside,Ithinksometimeswetakeittoofarandlivetherefortoolong.Doyouseethatcomingupalotinyourcommunity?Katie:Ido,yeah.Ithinkyou'reright,andIthinkthattrackingisthekeytothat.Evenonanunrelatednote,IknowjusteversinceIstartedreallytrackingmymenstrualcycle...weusenaturalfamilyplanningsoitwassomethingIhadtodo,butIhavelearnedsomuchaboutmyhealthfromthesymptomsrelatedtothatthatIneverpaidattentiontobefore.SoIthinksometimesjustthetrackingandkeepingalogcanopenalotofdoorsyoudidn'tevenknowwerethere.Andrea:Ilovethatyousaidthat,andthere'stwoothertrackersIwanttotalkaboutbut,youbroughtupsuchagoodone.Andforme,IdidnaturalfamilyplanningtogetpregnantbackwhenIwastalkingaboutwhenmyhusbandandIweretryingtogetpregnant.Ittookalittlewhileandforme,thisisbeforeIwasapractitioner.Iwasinacompletelydifferentfield.Anditwastrackingmycycleandlearningabouthowmycycleworkedthatwasthekeytobeingabletogetpregnant.Andwhathappenedthere,whichIthinkisalwaysinterestingformetothinkbackonasapractitioner,isIlearnedwhatwasgoingoninmybody.AndIthinkaspatients,we'resodistantfromwhatisactuallyhappeninginsideofusthatwe'rejustlivingatthesignandsymptomlevelordiagnosislevel,butwe'renotactuallysaying,"Oh,thisismythyroid.Thisiswhereitis.Thisishowitworks.Thisishowitactuallyhitsandfunctionstherestofmybody.ThisiswhyI'mexperiencingthatsymptominrelationtohavingthisdiagnosis."SoIactuallythinkaphysiologicalunderstanding,toapoint,toapointofunderstandinglikewhat'sgoingoninourbodiesisincrediblybeneficialforus.Sowe'retracking,butthen


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we'reaskingourselveswhy,andifwegettoworkwithsomebodywhocanexplainitandeducateuswithoutgoingoverboardintocrazybiochemistry,unlessthatfloatsourboat,thenit'ssuperhelpful,andthenaturalfamilyplanningIthinkisagreatexampleofthat.Icouldn'tbelievehowmuchIdidn'tknowaboutmycyclewhenIstarteddoingthat.Katie:Yeah,absolutely.Ifeellikeyoudolearnsomuch.Andtherearesomanygreatresources.I'lllinktotheonesIuse,andIknowyouhavesomeresourcesonthisaswell,butit'ssomucheasierthanitusedtobe.Likemymomactuallyhasdonethatforyearandbackintheday,itwaspaperchartswritingdown.Andrea:Yes,that'showIdidit.Katie:Yeah,andmetoointhebeginning.Andnowthereareappsandthereareallkindsoffertilitytrackersthatmakeitmoreaccurateandeasier,andthathelpyouhaveevenmoredata.Iwouldloveforyoutotalkabouttheothertrackersyouuse,andI'lljustmentionanotheronethathasbeeneye-openingforme,andthat'sjustbuyingabloodsugarmonitoratadrugstoreandtakingmybloodsugar.It'sfascinating.Thingsyouwouldthinkwouldspikeyourbloodsugarforyou,personally,maynot,andviceversa.Icouldprettymucheatsweetpotatoesforeveranditwon'traisemybloodsugar,butcertainfruitsdo.Sowhatotherhealthtrackersdoyouuse?Andrea:Well,that'soneofourfavoritesbecauseforme,that'sanon-negotiable.Bloodsugarmanagementforourthyroidhealthiskey.So,whenwethinkaboutthecascadeofhormones,Ialwaysthink,youknow,insulinandbloodsugarareatthebase.Ifwedon'thavethatdialedin,it'sveryhardtobuildwhatIcallthehouseofcardsontopofthat,sobloodsugarmonitoringisagreattracker.Andwehaveanentireprogramwherewehelppeoplemanagetheirbloodsugarandlookatitbecausesometimespeoplemakeassumptionslike,"Oh,I'mhypoglycemic,"whenthat'snotthecaseatall,andwewouldn'tknowthatunlessweusedthebloodsugarmonitoranddidsometracking.Sointhatcascadeofhormones,Ialwaysthinkofitasinsulinadrenalhormones,thyroidhormone,andthenthesexhormonesontopofthat.Soifwedon'thavethebloodsugarandtheadrenalsdialedin,it'shardintermsofournon-negotiablesandourdeficienciestogetthethyroidtodoitsthing.Weactuallyhavesomeback-it-upworktodo.Somyotherfavoritetrackers,inadditiontothosethatwetalkedabout,areasupplementtrackerandalabtracker.AndthesupplementtrackerisonewhereIaskpatientstotrackwhatthey'retaking,thedosing,whytheybroughtitin,whorecommendedit,andiftheynoticethatit'sdoingadifferenceforthembecausealotoftimes,peoplearebringinginremediesthatthey'velearnedfromconversationslikewe'rehavingoronlinesummitsorbooksthatthey'rereading,anditmaynotapplytothem,butthey'retakingitanyway.Andpatientsoftencomeintakingatonofsupplementsthataremaybeconfusingtheterrainmorethanthey'rehelping.Soourgoalistomakesurethatwe'reworkingwithverycleansupplementsandthatthey'rearetheonesthatyourbodyneeds,nottheonesthatyoureadaboutorthatseemlikethey'retheperfecthackfordealingwithyourHashimoto's,butthatareyourperfecthack,andthatmaytakesometimeandsomesupporttofigureout.SoasupplementtrackeriskeybecauseIdon'tknowaboutyou,Katie,butIseepeopletakingalotofsupplementsthataren'tnecessarilyappropriatefortheirsituation.Katie:Yeah,definitely.There'sevenacoupleofthoseinmyfamilythatit'sliketheykeepreadingallofthisliteratureaboutsupplements...whichIthinkissuperimportant.Ithinkeverybodyshouldberesearchingandlearningallthetime,buttheyjustkeepaddingtothelistandsotheyenduptakingalloftheminsteadofevaluatingandseeingwhat'sworkingandwhat'snot.AndImentionedforme,omega-3sandvitaminDalsomakeahugedifference,likeabsolutelynon-negotiables,butforsomeoneelse,I'msuredependingongut


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bacteriaandgenemutationsandeverythingelse,bigdosesofvitaminDoromega-3scouldbeharmful.SoIthinkit'ssokeytoknowwhatyou'retakingandknowwhatitisaffecting.Andrea:Yeah,intermsofwhatIwouldsayaremynon-negotiables,youknow,mybaseline,mysignaturesupplements,there'salwaysgonnabevitaminD,butthat'sgonnadependonlevelsandlabtesting.Omega-3sandagain,whatsomebodycantolerate,isunique.Bvitamins,acomplexofmethylatedBvitamins,butthat'shugelyindependent.Somebodywhohasgeneticmutationsmayneedtocomeatthatinaveryparticularway,sowecan'tjustsay,"Oh,everybodyshouldtakehigh-dosemethylatedBvitamins,"andsamewithprobiotics,whichismyfourthsignaturethingthatIwouldbelookingat.Whatsomebodycantolerateandwhattheirbodyneedsisgoingtobeunique,soeventhoughIhavesignaturenutrientsthatI'mbringingin,howwebringtheminandhowtheysupporttheindividualisveryunique,andthiscomesbacktotheprinciplesoffunctionalmedicineandfunctionalnutrition.It'snotjust"whatisthecondition?"It'swhoareyouwhohasthisconditionorthissignorsymptom?Andthat'sthenwherewebackupandlookatwhat'srequiredforyourbody.SothatsupplementtrackingissomethingIhavepeopledotokindoftakestockandtohaveaconversationaroundwhathaveyoubroughtin,why?Andinadditiontoreadinganddoingresearch,peopleareoftenself-diagnosingwithconditionsthatarerelatedtoasignorsymptomthatthey'reexperiencing.Ihaveconcernaboutthat.Soit'sresearching,butsometimesweneedpartnerstobeabletoask,"Isthistherightthingformeandmybody?"AndthefinaltrackerthatIwantedtotalkabout,asImentioned,isalabtracker.AndIthinkit'sreallyimportantforusaspatientstowatchourmarkers,evenifwedon'tknowwhattheymean,totrackthetrendssothatwecansee,issomethingmovingupordown?HowamIdoingwiththehacksthatI'mbringingin,withthethingsthatI'mdoingformyself?Arethingsmovingintherightdirection?IsthissomethingIshouldaskmysupportteam,mypractitioners,about?SoIliketohavepeopletakechargeofthattrackingbecauseitbringssomeawarenesstoasituationthatweotherwiseblindlyhandovertothepersonwhoweputourcareintheirhands,andIliketogivepatientsbackthepowerandgetbackinthedriver'sseat.So,evenifyoudon'tknowwhatitmeans,you'retakingthosenumbersandyou'reputtingthemontoasheetsothatitgivesyouthepausetobeabletolookatthem.Katie:Absolutely,andIwouldsayalso,myencouragementwouldbetoresearchthosefromsourcesthatyoutrustandthatyouknowhavethemorefunctionalmedicinesidebecausethat'soneofthethingsIhadtodowithmythyroidisIkeptgettinglabteststhatdoctorsweretellingmewerenormal,andifyoulookatit...ofcourse,therangesofnormalaredefinedbypeoplewhogetthetest,andpeoplewhogetthetestoftensuspecttheyhaveaproblemandmanytimesdo.Andsorealizingthatwhat'sinthenormalrangeonabloodtestthatyougetataregularlabmaynotbetheactualoptimallevels,andthatseemsespeciallytruewithvitaminD.Ihavesaidthisbefore,butIhadbloodtestsalongtimeagothatsaidIwascompletelyfine,andthenthenormalrangeofvitaminDinmynumberswereinthe20s.Alotofpractitionerssaylike,youknow,60andupisgood.Andrea:Yes.Yeah,50to80iswhereIwouldsay...youknow,IdealwithvitaminD.Soyeah,wehavetobelookingat"whatarethesenumbersandwhatthefunctionallevel?"Byfunctional,wemeanthisiswherethebodyactuallyfunctionsthebest.Katie:Exactly,andthat'squiteadifferencefromthenormal.Andconsideringthestateofhealthinourcountry,Idon'tthinkanyonereallywantstobenormalanymore.AndaquestionthatIlovethatmaybelikekindofbringstogethereverythingwe'retalkedabout,andIthinkyouwillansweritinanexceptionalway,is


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whatarethreethingsthatyouthinkpeoplereallydon'tunderstandwhenitcomestofunctionalmedicineandhealth,andespeciallyinyourareaofexpertise,andhowdoyouanswerthose?Andrea:Yeah,that'sagreatquestion,andIthinkthisanswermaynotmakemesopopularormaybe...fallintotherealmthatyouweretalkingabout,Katie,wherelikemaybethisisn'tsosexy.SoIthinkthatwhenwe'relookingforrootcauseresolution,wehavetorecognizethatittakescommitment,thatitactuallytakestrackingandsteppingback,andkindofmovingintothatpauseandknowingthatthereisnoone-size-fits-all.Andjusttokindofdouble-clickonthatthoughtforamoment,I'malwaysalittleshockedthatwearesocelebratoryofthewholenotionofindividualityinourculturethat,youknow,wehaveourSpotifysthatareuniquetousandpeoplebuybrasinhalfsizesbecausewe'reunique,orourjeansorourbedmattressesthatformtothecontourofourbody,butwhenitcomestoourhealth,wearestilllookingfortheone-size-fits-allapproachanditjustdoesn'texist.Therearethingsthataretrueforallofus,I'mnotgonnadenythat,butscienceiswayfaraheadofus.Scienceistalkingaboutthefactthatthemakeupofthegeneintheindividualmattersmorethanthediagnosis.Soifwetakeadiagnosislikecancer,youcanputacellin...twopeoplecanhavebreastcancer,butitdoesn'tmatterwherethosecancersexist.Itmattershowthosecellsbehave,andthattellsusalotmoreinformationthanwhereitis.Sotowardthatend,justbecausewebothhavethyroidissues,doesn'tmeanwe'regonnarespondtothesamethings.Again,therearesomethingsthatmayfallintothenon-negotiablesthataretrueforallofus,likewetalkedaboutwithdietandnutrients,butthenwedogetdowntothatspecificity,andthattakescommitment.Sothat'snumberonethatIwanttosay.Numbertwoisthatittakestime,notjusttimeintracking,butthatthecondition,likeIsaid,thedysfunctioncameaboutbecauseanumberoffactors,notjustonething.Disease,again,startswithdysfunctionanddysfunctioncanoccuronmultiplelevels:physiological,physical,cognitive,psychological,spiritual.There'sanumberofthingsthathappenedinyourlife,whichiswhywespendtimeonthattimelinethatalladdedupinaconfluencetotipthescalestoleadtothesigns,symptoms,ordiagnosisthatyou'reexperiencing.Andtherefore,ittakestimetolookatandaddressthosethings,andthat'sokay.Aslongasyou'reinaprocess,it'sokay,andthatprocesssometimeslookslikeforwardmomentum,butitactuallygoesupanddownandtheremaybeplaceswhereyouhaveaflareorwhereitfeelslikeastepback.Andyoutakeeachofthoseopportunitiestolearnandmoveforward.Whatdidthatexperiencetellme?So,numberone,ittakescommitment.Numbertwo,ittakestimebecausethisdidn'tmanifestovernight,andnumberthree,Ireallywanttosaythatfrommyareaofresearchandexpertise,youthepatientaretheheroonyourhealthcareteam.Thereisnoonepill,protocol,orpractitionerwho'sgonnasolveallyourproblems.Youaretheonewhoactuallyhasmoreinfluenceoverwhathappensinyourlife.Youaretheheroandifyoulookatthehero'sjourneyandwhatittakes,youmayneedaguide.Youmayneedseveralguides,butit'syourjourneyandyou'realreadyonit,andyou'realreadyonthehero'sjourneygettingtowhereyouneedtogo.Sothosearethreethingsthat,likeIsaid,maynotbesosexy,butIhaveseeninallofthepeople,thousandsofpeoplethatI'vebeenabletoworkwith,thatI'vehadtheprivilegetoworkwith,thatthisistheprocessthatreallyworksforrootcauseresolution.Katie:Ithinkthatlastpointissokey,thatinyourhealth,youcan'toutsourceit.It'soneofthosethingsthatyoutrulyhavetodoyourselfandyou'retheonewho'sputtingintheeffort.Andnooneisgonnacareasmuchaboutyourhealth,orshould,asyoudo,andIthinkthatbecomingyourownadvocateandyourownresearcherand,insomeways,yourownscientistisabigpartofthekey.Andyoucanuse,likeyousaid,toolsfrommanydifferentthingsandmanydifferentsupplementsorwhateveritendsupbeingforyou,butbecomingyourownadvocateandtakingownershipforthatisso,soimportantandIlovethatyoubroughtthatup.Andforanyonewhowantstoconnectwithyou,wherecantheyfindyouonline?I'llofcoursehave


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linksintheshownotes,especiallytothee-bookthatwementioned,butwherepeoplefindyou?Andrea:Yeah,IwelcomepeoplevisitingusatreplenishPDX.com,andifyouareinterestedincounseling,orevenifyouwantthesetoolsthatItalkedabout,youcangotoreplenishPDX.com/counselingandwedosharewithyouandemailthefood-mood-poopjournal,thesupplementtracker,andthelabtracker.Thee-book,thefood-mood-poope-book,whichyoucangetatreplenishPDX.com/wellnessmama,isgonnawalkthroughthatprocessinmoredetail.So,afewdifferentplaces,allyoucanlinkbacktoreplenishPDX.Ifthereareanypractitionerslistening,that'sreallythebiggestthingIdo.I'vetrainedthousandsofpractitioners.Iliketocallthemalliedfunctionalmedicinepractitionersinthescienceandartofthefunctionalnutritionpractice.ThatschooliscalledHolisticNutritionLab.We'vetrainedpractitionersnowinover50countries,whichisreallyexcitingatthispointthatweareamovement,youknow,reallytakingstormandmakingachangeinhowwepracticemedicinebyfillingthegap,asIliketoseeit.There'sagapbetweenthepatientandeventhefunctionalmedicinedoctor,andwefillthatgap.Sothat'sholisticnutritionlab.com.Sotherearesomeresourceswhereyoucaneasilyfindmeandwhatwe'redoingonline.Katie:Thankyou,andlikeIsaid,I'lllinktothoseintheshownotes.AndIalsowantedtojustspeaktowhatyousaidinthebeginning.Wejumpedrightintothescienceandthehealth.ButIalsojustwantedtosaythatyouaresuchaninspirationandI'msosorryforthelossofyourhusband,butsogratefulforallthatyoudointheworldandforthebeautythatyou'vebroughtoutofthat.So,thankyouforyourresearch,foryourtime,andforbeingheretoday.Andrea:Thankyousomuch,Katie.Ireallyappreciateitandthankyouforhavingmeherewithyourcommunity.Katie:Thankyou,andthankstoallofyouforlistening,andI'llseeyounexttimeonTheHealthyMomsPodcast.

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