NAWCISSVS NOTES NEWSLETTER OF THE MIDWEST REGION

Fall, 2008

REGIONAL VICE PRESIDENT Bill Lee

4606 Honey Hill Lane Batavia, OH 45103-1315

513-752-8104 BLEE811@aol.com

MIDWEST SHOWS 2009

April 4: Jeffersonville, IN Kentucky Daffodil Society Contact: Sue Bartle, 107 Nashua Dr, Clarksville, IN, 47129-1428; (812) 945-8219, suebartle@att.net Location to be determined

April 11-12: Cincinnati, OH Southwest Ohio Daffodil Society Chair: Linda Wallpe, 1940 Gregory Lane, Cincinnati, OH 45206; (513) 221-4140); LWallpe@cinci.mcom Cincinnati Zoo and Botanical Garden, 3240 Vine St, Cincinnati, OH (in the Treetops Room)

April 13-14: Chillicothe Adena Daffodil Society Contact: Karen Beery, 83 E. 4th Street, Chillicothe, OH 45601; (740) 775-7595; daffodilmom@hotmail.com The Pump House Center for the Arts, Enderlin Circle in Yoctangee Park (note new location)

April 16-17: Indianapolis, IN Indiana Daffodil Society Chair: Suzy Wert, 7350 N. Illinois Street, Indianapolis, IN 46260; (317) 254-0060; lirnequilla@aol.com Holliday Park Nature Center, 6333 Springmill Rd, Indianapolis, IN

April 18-19: Columbus, OH Central Ohio Daffodil Society Contact: Phyllis Hess, 3670 E Powell Rd, Lewis Center, OH 43035; (614) 882-5720;phess1@insightmcom Franklin Park Conservatory, 1770 E Broad St, Columbus, OH.

April 25-26: Youngstown, OH Fellows Riverside Gardens Daffodil Show, Contact: Keith Kaiser, 123 McKinley Ave., Youngstown, OH 44509; (330) 740-7116; kkaiser@cboss.com

(The location of the regional show will be determined at the regional meeting.)

The Midwest Region Fall Meeting Saturday, September 20, 10:00 to 2:00

The regional meeting for the ADS Midwest region is Saturday, Sept. 20, at the home of Jill and Paul Griesse in Granville, OH. (2640 North St., Granville, OH 43023 (740-887-3736) (email: pdgriesse@prodigy.net)

In addition to our program, lunch, and bulb exchange, there will be opportunities to tour the extensive grounds and gardens as well as view the restored antique cars in Paul's garages.

Panel Discussion: How We Grow 'Em A distinguished panel of expert growers and showers in the region will discuss the following aspects of growing daffodils in our region: • Are there differences in growing for landscape vs.

growing for show?

• What do you do to amend your soil, if anything? • Are some locations better than others? (NSEW

exposures, flat vs. slope, etc.) • When do you feed and what do you use? • When do you water? • -Do you do anything special to enhance color

when in bloom (or before) • Do you interplant with perennials? • What do you do to amend your soil, if anything? • How often do you lift and divide and how do you

store the bulbs and when do you replant them? • Are there special techniques for different kinds of

daffodils (cyclamineus hybrids, doubles, and

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MIDWEST SI{OWS 2OO9

April 4: Jeffersonville, lNKentucky Daffodit SocietyContact: Sue Bartle, 107 Nashua Dr, Clarksville, lN,47 12%1 428; (812) 94$82 1 9, sueba(le@att.netLocation to be determined

Apri! 11-{2: Cincinnati, OHSouthwest Ohio Daffodil SocietyChair: Linda Wallpe, 1940 Gregory Lane,Cincinnati, OH 45206; {513) 2?1-a1a0).;LWallpe@cinci.n.comCincinnatiZoo and BotanicalGarden, 3240 Vine St,Cincinnati, OH (in the Treetops Room)

April 13-14: ChillicotheAdena Daffodil SocietyContact: Karen Beery, 83 E.4th Street, Chillicothe,OH 45601 ; QAal 77 5-7595;daffodilmom@hotmail.comThe Pump House Center forthe Arts, EnderlinCircle in Yoctangee Park (note new location)

The regional meeting for the ADS Midwest regionis Saturday, Sept. 20, at the home of Jill and PaulGriesse in Granville,OH. Q640 North St.,Granville, OH 43023 (740-887-3736) (email:pdgriesse@prodigy.net)

In addition to our program, lunch, and bulbexchange, there will be opportunities to tour theextensive grounds and gardens as well as view therestored antique cars in Paul's garages.

Panel I)iscussion: How \Ye Grow'EmA distinguished panel of expert growers andshowers in the region will discuss the followingaspects of growing daffodils in our region:. Are there differences in growing for landscape vs.

growing for show?

REGIONAL VIGE PRESIDENTBillLee

4606 Honey Hill LaneBatavia, oH 45103-1315

513-752€104BLEE811@aol.com

(The location of the regional show will be determined at the regional meeting.)

The Midwest Region Fall MeetingSaturday, September 20, 10:00 to 2:00

April {6-{7: lndianapolis, INlndiana Daffodil $ocietyChair: Suzy Wert, 7350 N. lllinois Street,lndianapolis, lN 46260; (317) 254-0060;limequilla@aol.comHolliday Park Nature Center,6333 Springmill Rd,lndianapolis, lN

April 18-19: Golumbus, OHGentral Ohio Daffodil $ocietyContact: Phyllis Hess, 3670 E PowetlRd, LewisCenter, OH 43035; (614) 882-5720; phess't @insightrr.comFranklin Park Conservatory, 1770 E Broad St,Columbus, OH.

April 25-26: Youngstown, OHFellours Rivercide Gardens Daffodil Show,Contact: Keith Kaiser,123 McKinley Ave.,Youngstown, OH 44509; (330) 740-7116;kkaiser@cboss.com

What do you do to amend your soil, if anything?Are some locations better than others? (NSEWexposures, flat vs. slope, etc.)When do you feed and what do you use?

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those considered hard to keep ('Gull', for example, comes to mind).

For this meeting, we'll focus on standards since last year's topic was on miniatures.

What to bring: • A covered dish, salad, or dessert for the lunch. • Bulbs for the bulb exchange. (Also feel free to

bring any divisions or seeds from your perennial gardens.)

• A written list of your five favorite garden daffodils and your five favorite show daffodils. We did this at a SWODS meeting last weekend and the results were interesting. Our lists consisted of the following:

For show: `Acropolis', 'Altun Ha', 'American Dream', `Ballyvoy', 'Barnum', 'Beersheba', 'Berceuse', 'Cantatrice', 'Cape Point', 'Clouded Yellow', 'Cool Crystal', 'Crackington', 'David Adams', 'Ethereal Beauty', 'Festivity', 'Fragrant Rose' (3 times), `Geometries' (2 times), 'Goff's Caye', 'Gull', `Intrigue' (2 times), `La Paloma' (2 times), 'Magic Lantern', `Michael's Gold', 'Miss Prim', `Montpier', 'Notre Dame', 'Ohio Snow', 'Oregon Pioneer', 'Pink Silk', 'Rapture', 'River Queen', `Savoire Faire' (2 times), 'Segovia', 'Sidling Hill', `Sir Winston Churchill', 'Snipe, 'Spring Chimes', `Tripartite', 'Velvet Spring', 'Wild Honey', Alt' For Garden: Any poet, 'Arctic Gold', 'Avalon', 'Baby Moon', `Bryanston', 'Can Can Girl', 'Cool Crystal', 'Cowboy', 'Daydream' (2 times), `Dickcissel', `Doctor Hugh', 'Elixir', 'Falstaff, 'Fragrant Rose', `Geranium' (2 times), 'Golden Bells', 'Hambledon', 'Hawaii', 'Hillstar', 'Ice Follies', 'Indian Maid', `Intrigue', 'Jenny', `Jetfire' (3 times), 'Las Vegas', `Michael's Gold', 'Misty Glen', 'Mount Hood', `Orangery', 'Pink Charm', 'Pipit', 'Prologue', 'Rip van Winkle', 'Salome', 'Sir Winston Churchill', `Spellbinder' (2 times), 'Spun Honey',

`Stratosphere' (2 times), `Surfside', 'Tahiti', 'Tete-a-Tete', 'Thalia' (2 times), 'Tripartite', 'Unique'.

E-Mailing the Regional Newsletter To save postage and printing costs, I am emailing this newsletter to all members for whom I have an email address. The format is a Word document. If you would prefer a .pdf version, email me at BLEE811@aol.com and I'll send it immediately.

NEW MEMBERS in 2008 Contact them, invite them to a show, meeting, or just over for coffee to see your daffodil patch. You can never have too many daffodil and gardening friends! New members, come to our regional meeting and make new friends and learn more about daffodils and our shows and projects. New members always leave with extra daffodils. • Laura Cron, 5656 Lake Mead Dr, Fairfield, OH

45014 • Granville Garden Club, PO BX 198, Granville,

OH 43023 • Henry Heatly, 363 Meridian Lane, Village of

Lakewood, IL 60014; (312) 286-5030; hank@heatly.com

• Niles Kinerk, 7602 Hyland Dr, Guilford, IN 47022; niles_kinerk@yahoo.com

• Bruce Murray, 401 E 4th St, Newport, KY 41071; (859) 261-4940

• Andrea, Kyle, and Nikki Sparks, 256 Rhoads Avenue, Columbus, OH 43205 (youth members);

• JanStein, 1983 Haverton Dr, Reynoldsburg, OH 43068; steinj7@nationwide.com

• Ms. M Maurice Utley, 308 State St, Elizabethtown, KY 42707-2742

• Jim & Marilyn Waldsmith, 142 Hanby Ave, Westerville, OH 43081-1212; (614) 891-6585

• John Werner, 524 South Meadowbrook Ave, Bl000mington, IN 47401; jwerner002@aol.com

Annual Meeting and National Show April 24-27: Chicago, IL Renaissance Chicago North Shore Hotel Chicago Botanic Garden

Check out the details in the December Journal or at the ADS website at www.daffodilusa.org. Our region should be well-represented at National next spring since it is in comfortable driving distance for most of us.

those considered hard to keep ('Gull', tbrexample, comes to mind).

For this meeting, we'll focus on standards since lastyear's topic was on miniatures.

What to bring:r A covered dish, salad, or dessert for the lunch.. Bulbs for the bulb exchange. (Also feel ftee to

bring any divisions or seeds from your perennialgardens.)

o A written list of your five fuvorite garden

daffodils and your five favorite show daffcrdils.We did this at a SWODS meeting last weekendand the results were interesting. Our listsconsisted of the following:

For show:'Acropolis', 'Altun Ha', 'American Dream','Ballyvoy', oBamum','Beersheba','Berceuse',

'Cantatrice', 'Cape Point', 'Clouded Yellow', 'CoolCrystal','Crackington', oDavid Adams','EtherealBeauty', 'Festivity', 'Fragrant Rose' (3 times),'Geometrics' (2 times), 'Gofls Caye', 'Gull','Inffigue' (2 times), 'La Paloma' (2 times), 'MagicLantem'. 'Michael's Gold', 'Miss Prim','Montpier'. 'Notre Dame', 'Ohio Snow', 'OregonPioneer'" 'Pink Silk', 'Rapture', 'River Queen','Savoire Faire' (2 times), 'Segovia', 'Sidling Hill','Sir Winston Churchill', 'Snipe, 'Spring Chimes',oTripartite', 'Velvet Spring', 'Wild Floney', 'Xit'

Any pet, 'Arctic Gold', 'Avalon', 'Baby Moon','Bryanston', 'Can Can Girl', 'Cool Crystal','Cowboy', 'Daydream' Q times), 'Dickcissel','Doctor Hugh', 'Elixir', 'Falstaff, 'Fragrant Rose',oGeranium' (2 times), 'Golden Bells', 'Hambledon',oHawaii', 'Hillstar', 'Ice Follies', 'fndian Maid',olntrigue', 'Jenny', oJetfire' (3 times), 'Las Vegas','Michael's Gold', 'Misty Glen', 'Mount Hood',oOrangery', 'Pink Charm', oPipit', 'Prologue', 'Ripvan Winkle'o oSalome', 'Sfo Winston Churchill','Spellbinder' (2 times), 'Spun Honey',

Annual Meeting and National ShowApril 24-27: Ghicago, lLRenaissance Chicago North Shore HotelChicago Botanic Garden

'Stratosphere' (2 times), 'Surfside', 'Tahiti', 'Tete-a-Tete', 'Thalia' (2 times), 'Tripartite', 'Unique'.

E-Mailing the Regional NewsletterTo save postage and printing costs, I am emailingthis newsletter to all members for whom I have an

email address. The format is a Word document. Ifyou would prefer a .pdf version, email me atBLEE8Il@aol.com and I'll send it immediately.

NEW lUEttllBERS in 2008Contact them, invite them to a show, meeting, orjust over for coffee to see your daffodil patch. Youcan never have too many daffodil and gardeningfriends! New members, come to our regionalmeeting and make new friends and learn more aboutdaffodils and our shows and projects. New rnembersalways leave with exha daffodils.r Laura Cron, 5656 Lake Mead Dr, Fairfiel{ OH

45014r Granville Garden Club, PO BX 198, Granville,

oH 43023r Henry Heatly, 363 Meridian Lane, Village of

Lakewoo4IL 60014; (312) 286-5030;hank@heatly.com

. Niles Kinerh T6O2Hyland Dr, Guilford, IN47 A22; niles_kinerk@yahoo.comBruce Murray, 401 E 4th St, Newport, KY 41071;

{8s9\2614940Andrea, Kylq and Nikki Sparks, 256 RhoadsAvenue, Columbus, OH 43205 (youth members);JanStein, 1983 Haverton Dr, Reynoldsburg, OH43 068 ; steinj 7@nationwide.comMs. M Maurice Utley, 308 State St,Elizabethtown, KY 427 A7 -27 42Jim & Marilyn Waldsmith, 142 Hanby Ave,Westerville, OH 43081-1212; (614) 891-6585John Werner, 524 South Meadowbrook Ave,Blooomington, IN 4740 1 ; jwernerO01@aal.com

Check out the details in the December Journal or at theADS website at www.daffodilusa.org. Our region shouldbe well-represented at National next spring since it is incomfortable driving distance for most of us.

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ADS Website If you haven't checked the website lately, be sure to do so: www.daffodilusa.org. New resources are added all the time and you will also note that you can now make purchases of ADS publications and merchandise online using a credit card. You will also find lists of ADS approved miniatures, suggested intermediates, the Pannill and Wister lists, a Pocket Guide to Daffodils, and Daffodil Coloring Pages.

The link to Daffseek is also especially valuable and Ben Blake and Nancy Tackett continue to add more and more photos to the database as well as some new features that will blow you away. Check it out!

Fall Miniature Symposium In Nashville

October 31-Nov. 2 Don't miss a great ADS event happening in

Nashville this fall. All ADS members and their guests are invited.

On Saturday, Harold Koopowitz will lead a Miniatures Symposium with miniature expert growers and hybridizers from many parts of the US and Lawrence Trevanion from Camberra, Australia. Lawrence will be our dinner speaker on Saturday night and will enlighten us about miniature daffodils Down Under. Harold will bring a selection of his fall blooming daffodils from California. Live daffodils to see and sniffl Sunday offers a tour of Cheekwood Botanical Gardens and Museum of Art. At the Friday night dinner , costumes based on daffodil names will be optional. (It's Halloween!) There will be prizes for the best and most creative costumes! After dinner don't miss the bulb auction. Visit the link below for more information. Please make your hotel reservations ASAP and note the deadlines for registration.

Becky Fox Matthews, who is organizing this event, advises: Make your hotel reservations NOW! We don't have a large block of rooms reserved and you can always cancel the rooms with no penalty closer to the date if you find you can't attend. The conference registration deadline is October 1; earlier registrations would help with advance planning. Link for the fall meeting: http://daffodilusa.org/BoardBusiness/2008fallboard/ 2008fallmeeting.html

Getting Canaliculatus To Bloom By Kathy Welsh

Are you of the opinion that the only way to have a blooming Canaliculatus is to buy new bulbs from your favorite Dutch source each year? Until last year, I would have sworn by this theory. I first purchased Canaliculatus a number of years ago. The bulbs had split and multiplied regularly, but produced nothing but foliage in the spring. It was not until I mentioned my frustration to Ann Corson that I learned a new trick.

Ann's advice, "Dig the bulbs and leave the mesh bag on top of the dirt for weeks. Let the bulbs really bake. Pretend like you're trying to kill them." Following this advice was easy because I had decided that if I didn't get flowers I was disposing of the bulbs anyway. Who needs bulbs that produce nothing but foliage? My efforts paid off greatly. In the summer of 2007 I followed Ann's directions and this past spring I was rewarded with an entire row of flowering bulbs. Most had 5 or 6 blooms per stem.

For those in the deep south where temperatures are much hotter than the mid to upper 90 degree days in Northern Virginia, you may want to modify these directions slightly. Good luck!

Color Code Change Note that the color code of Bill Pannill's 'Ashland' has been changed to 2W-W from 2W-Y. Since this cultivar is so widely grown, I thought this should be publicized.

Important Message About Your Ads Dues

Jaydee, Ager, Executive Director Effective July 1, 2009, we will convert to an

annual dues renewal date of JULY 1. We trust this will simplify dues payments. With ever increasing costs, it was incumbent upon us to find a better solution than our current quarterly dues renewal system. So what will you do as you pay dues for this year, or in 2009? To align with the JUL 1 09 start date, you may need to pay a pro-rated amount. Look at the back cover of your JUNE Journal or this newsletter if it has been sent via USPS to ascertain your dues renewal date. Each calendar quarter of MAR, JUN, SEP, DEC, has a value of $5 attributed to your annual dues payment of $20. If your one year dues are paid through SEP 08, you would pay $15, DEC 08, pay $10, MARCH 09, pay

ADS YllebsiteIf you haven't checked the website lately, be sure todo so: www.daffodilusa.org. New resources are

added all the time and you will also note that youcan now make purchases of ADS publications andmerchandise online using a credit card. You willalso find lists of ADS approved miniatures,suggested intermediates, the Pannill and Wisterlists, a Pocket Guide to Daffodils, and DaffodilColoring Pages.

The link to Daffseek is also especially valuableand Ben Blake and Nancy Tackett continue to addmore and more photos to the database as well as

some new features that will blow you away. Checkit out!

Fall Miniature Symposiumln Nashville

October 31-Nov. 2Don't miss a great ADS event happening in

Nashville this fall. All ADS members andtheirguests are invited.

On Saturday, Harold Koopowitz will lead aMiniatures Symposium with miniature expertgrowers and hybridizers from many parts ofthe USand Lawrence Trevanion from Camberra, AushaliaLawrence will be our dinner speaker on Salurdaynight and will enlighten us about miniaturedaffodils Down Under. Harold will bring a selectionofhis fall blooming daffodils from California. Livedaffodils to see and sniff! Sunday offers a tour ofCheekwood Botanical Gardens and Museum of Art.At the Friday night dinner , costumes based ondaffodil names will be optional. (It's Halloween!)There will be prizes for the best and most creativeoostumes! After dinner don't miss the bulb auction.Visit the link below for more information. Pleasemake your hotel reservations ASAP and note thedeadlines for registration.

Becky Fox Matthews, who is organizing thisevent advises: Make your hotel reservations NOW!We don't have a large block of rooms reserved andyou can always cancel the rooms with no penaltycloser to the date if you find you can't attend. Theconference registration deadline is October 1;

earlier registrations would help with advanceplanning.Link for the fall meeting:htto : /ldaffodilusa. orglB oardBusine ss2 00 8 fal lboard/200Sfallmeetine.html

Gefting Ganaliculatus To BloomBy Kathy Welsh

Are you of the opinion that the only way tohave a blooming Canaliculatus is to buy new bulbsfrom your favorite Dutch source each year? Untillast year, I would have sworn by this theory. I firstpurchased Canaliculatus a number of years ago.The bulbs had split and multiplied regularly, butproduced nothing but foliage in the spring. It wasnot until I mentioned my frustration to Ann Corsonthat I learned a new trick.

Ann's advice,'oDig the bulbs and leave themesh bag on top of the dirt for weeks. Let the bulbsreally bake. Pretend like you're trying to killthem." Following this advice was easy because Ihad decided that if I didn't get flowers I was

disposing ofthe bulbs anyway. Who needs bulbsthat produce nothing but foliage? My efforts paidoffgreatly. In the summer of 2007 I followedAnn's directions and this past spring I was rewardedwith an entire row of flowering bulbs. Most had 5or 6 blooms per stem.

For those in the deep south wheretemperatures are much hotter than the mid to upper90 degree days in Northern Virginia, you may wantto modift these directions slightly. Good luck!

Golor Code GhangeNote that the color code of Bill Pannill's 'Ashland'has been changed to 2W-W from 2W-Y. Since thiscultivar is so widely grown, I thought this should bepublicized.

lmportant Message AboutYour Ads Dues

Jaydee, Ager, Executive DirectorEffective July 1, 2009, we will convert to an

annual dues renewal date of JULY 1. We trust thiswill simplify dues payments. With ever increasingcosts, it was incumbent upon us to find a bettersolution than our current quarterly dues renewalsystem. So what will you do as you pay dues forthis year, or in 2009? To align with the JUL 1 09start date, you may need to pay a pro-rated amount.Look at the back cover of your fUNE Journal orthis newsletter if it has been sflrt via USPS toascertain your dues renewal date. Each calendarquarter of MA& JUN, SEP, DEC, has a value of $5attributed to your annual dues payment of $20. Ifyour one year dues are paid through SEP 08, youwould pay $15, DEC 08, pay $10, MARCH 09, pay

$5 or $25 to renew for another year. These payments will get you aligned with the JUL 1 date. If your dues are paid thru JUN 09; lucky you, you are good to go, with no pro-rated payments! Please renew by sending your check, made payable to ADS, to the Executive Director. The mailing address is: PO BX 522, Hawkinsville, GA 31036-0522. You can also renew at our ADS web store: v,r‘vv,.daffodilusastore.org. I welcome your inquiries about this change. I prefer e-mail communication, but a phone call or a snail mailed note will work, too. Our ADS web store will be problematic for dues renewal pro-rated payments, because it only

offers an annual or three year dues renewal option. But if you prefer utilizing the web store, rather than sending a personal check, it can be worked out. Please contact me first, so we can make the necessary arrangements. I aim to please. Jaydee Atkins Ager, ADS Executive Director, jager@dishmail.net; (478) 783-2153.

ADS MIDWEST REGION ELECTIONS

Nominees for Regional Vice President, Regional Director and member of the ADS National Nominating Committee are:

For Regional Vice President: Bill Lee, Ohio — third year of a 3-year term ending 2010:

D Bill Lee

For Regional Director, term of 3 years ending 2012: 0 George McGowan

For member of the ADS National Nominating Committee: 0 Phyllis Hess

Mark your ballot and mail it to Tag Bourne, 1052 Shadyhill Drive, Columbus, OH 43221

ADS Midwest Region Bill Lee, RVP 4606 Honey Hill Lane Batavia, OH 45103-1315 BLEE811@aol.com

$5 or $25 to renew for another year. Thesepayments will get you aligned with the JUL I date.If your dues are paid thru JUN 09; lucky you, youare good to go, with no pro-rated payments! Please

rensw by sending your checlc, made payable toADS, to the Executive Direstor. The mailingaddress is: PO BX S2l,Hawknsville, GA 31036-0522. You can also renew at our ADS web store:www.daffodilusastore.org. I welcome your inquiriesabout this change. I prefer e-mail communication,but a phone call or a snail mailed note will work,too. Our ADS web store will be problematic fordues renewal pro-rated payments, because it only

offers an annual or thtee year dues renewal option.But if you prefer utilizing the web store, rather thansending a personal chech it can be worked out.Please ooiltact me first, so we can make thenecessary arrangements. I aim to please.

Jaydee Atkins Ager, ADS Executive Director,jager@dishmail.net; (478) 7 83 -21 53.

AI}S MIDWEST REGION ELECTIONS

Nominees for Regional Vice Presidento Regional Director and member of the ADSNational Nominating Committee are:

For Regional Vice President: Bill Lee, Ohio - third year of a 3-year term ending20{0:

tr Bill Lee

For Regional Directorn term of 3 years ending 2A12:tr George McGowan

For member of the ADS National Nominating Committee:I Phyllis Hess

Mark your ballot and mail it to Tag Bourne, 1052 Shadyhill Drive, Columbus, OH43221

ADS Midwest RegionBill Lee, RVP4606 tloney Hill LaneBatavia, OH 45103-1315BLEE8Il@aol.com

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