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AAIM 2015

Mike Fulks

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Life’s Big QuestionsLife’s Big QuestionsLife’s Big QuestionsLife’s Big Questions

1. 200% of what exactly?

2. If it is $10 for 3, why not $5 for 6?

3. Why not use a +50 rating to cover the

tail on a cancer risk?

4. Where do ratings come from?

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Talking the Talk

• Mortality Ratios

Mortality %

100%

150%

200%

300%

400%

500%

Uninsurable

Debits 0 50 100 200 300 400 Often > 1 year survival

Table

STD T-2 T-4 T-8 T-12 T-16 T-U

STD T-B T-D T-H T-L T-P T-U

• Flat Extras

One extra death/1,000 lives roughly equals $1/ $1,000 of risk amount

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Expected Mortality Tables

Lowest Mortality

3x

2x

Highest Mortality

Annuity

Proprietary Life table usually a % of basic tables

Industry-experience basic tables ’75-80, 2001, 2008 VBT

Employed Group Health

General Population from appropriate years

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Industry Life tables

Valuation basic tables (VBT)

– https://www.soa.org/member use menu to Research and

Publications for 2008 and 2001 and other useful material

– Based on experience studies and projected improvement

– 25 year select period where impact of underwriting

diminishes year by year followed by “ultimate”

– 2008 with preferred and limited-underwriting tables

– 2014 VBT with additional features in development

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Select and Ultimate MortalityEffects of selection on mortality, male insured lives 1955-60.

U.S. white male 1st policy year 16th policy year

Age Group

Deaths/ 1,000

Deaths/ 1,000

Ratio to US pop

Deaths/ 1,000

Ratio to US pop

35-39 2.5 0.9 36% 1.6 64%

40-44 4.1 1.5 37% 2.7 66%

45-49 6.9 2.2 32% 5.1 74%

50-54 11.6 3.2 28% 8.3 72%

55-59 17.3 4.3 25% 13.3 77%

60-64 26.9 6.7 25% 21.6 80%

65-69 39.3 10.2 26% 33.0 84%

70-74 56.2 14.8 26% 50.0 89%

Adapted from Medical Selection of Life Risks, 4th edition

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Life Expectancy, years remainingMale Insureds (70% of ‘75-80 basic)

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plus a small tailPostpone

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Renal Trans.

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Underwriting Principle #3

Know when to make an offer based on

limited information

• What is your business model?

– Fully underwritten to final expense; agency to brokerage

• What is the potential range of risk for this finding:

– Narrow (or no change in result), where more info not useful;

– Wide, where more info. absolutely needed?

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1,000 applicants with non-specific T wave abnormalities on their EKGs.

You propose to rate everyone with this finding at +50 to cover the extra mortality.

I propose to use all available history, age, sex and exam to determine the probability of underlying disease and rate on that basis

Conditions include:

• HTN/LVH , CAD

• Cardiomyopathy

• Probably healthy

You end up quickly with:

• 1,000 offers all at 150%

I end up taking a bit longer and ending up with:

• 500 offers at standard

• 250 offers at 150%

• 250 offers at over 150%

• You get all those over 150%

• You lose most under 150%

Lose - Lose

• I give you all those over 150%

• I get most under 150%

Win - Win

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AnsweringAnsweringAnsweringAnswering

Life’s Big QuestionsLife’s Big QuestionsLife’s Big QuestionsLife’s Big Questions

1. 200% of what exactly?

2. If it is $10 for 3, why not $5 for 6?

3. Why not use a +50 rating to cover the

tail on a cancer risk?

4. Where do ratings come from?

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Answer Answer Answer Answer to to to to

Life’s Big Life’s Big Life’s Big Life’s Big Question #3Question #3Question #3Question #3

Breast Cancer tail =

2 deaths/1,000 extra regardless of age

57 yo women with expect mort of 4 deaths/1,000

2 deaths/4 deaths = 150% of expected

75 yo women with expect mort of 20 deaths/1,000

2 deaths/20 deaths = 110% of expected

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• Where do ratings come from?

– “Expert Opinion” is still the basis or many or

multiples of normal range for laboratory studies

– Insured lives studies often using MIB classification

comparing to expected mortality based on VBT

– Applicant studies often from industry labs utilizing

Social Security DMF for deaths

– General or selected population studies from medical

literature

All require understanding research results

-Monday workshop focused more on table ratings

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How could case #1 be rated?

56 yo male with a PTCA 2 months ago (no MI),

who quit smoking 1 year ago, back at work.

A. Temp flat and table rating

B. Table rating only (call smoker or non-smoker?)

C. Permanent flat

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How could case #2 be rated?

56 yo female with 3 cm. grade 2 breast cancer

including one positive axillary node 6 years ago,

without recurrence, now off hormonal therapy.

A. PP (what risk criteria require it to be pp?)

B. Table rating only

C. Permanent flat only

D. Temp flat and table rating (same for all ages)

E. Temp flat and permanent flat

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How could case #3 be rated?

56 (or 78) yo male with clinical T2b Gleason 6

prostate cancer treated with radiotherapy 8

months ago with PSA now reduced to 0.3 ng/mL .

A. PP

B. Temp flat (matching recurrences or deaths?)

C. Table rating

D. Standard offer (what is the consideration?)

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How could case #4 be rated?

56 yo female pilot who learned to fly 8 months

ago and typically flies a couple of hours every

other week if the weather is OK. (assume aviation

hx is ratable)

A. Table rating

B. Permanent flat

C. Temporary flat

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How could case #5 be rated?

66 yo female smoker with a screening CEA level

at 13 ng/mL (values >10 ng/mL are often

associated with advanced malignancy)

A. Table rating

B. Permanent flat

C. Temporary flat

D. PP

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Selected References

• Medical Selection of Life Risks, 5th ed., Brackenridge, 2006

• Medical Risks, 1991 Compend, Singer, Kita and Avery, 1991

• Medical Risks, Vol 1&2, Lew and Gajewski, 1990

• Multiple Medical Impairment Study, CMAS, 1998

• Jour. Insurance Medicine, (AAIM) & OTR (AHOU)

• AAIM Mortality Methodology classes and this AAIM Triennial

course www.aaimedicine.org

• Actuaries at your company (often looking for absolute risk)

• https://www.soa.org/member

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/pubs/pubd/lftbls/life/1966.htm