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Addressing Long Term Care NeedsPresented by: Robert B. McCalla, PhD, CLU, ChFC, CFP®

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“Addressing  Long  Term  Care  Needs”  

Presented  by:  Robert  B.  McCalla,  PhD,  CLU,  ChFC,  CFP®  

Outline  

•  IntroducEon  •  Brief  review  of  Long  Term  Care  Needs  •  Long  Term  Care—what  are  the  opEons?  •  Long  Term  Care  Insurance—what  is  it?  •  QuesEons    

IntroducEon  

•  Robert  B.  McCalla,  PhD,  CLU,  ChFC,  CFP®  •  Director,  Personal  Finance  Program  •  Department  of  Consumer  Science  •  School  of  Human  Ecology  

– [email protected]  –  (608)  262-­‐1810    

What  are  long-­‐term  care  needs?  

•  Long-­‐Term  care  can  be  thought  of  as  a  “range  of  services  and  supports  needed  for  day-­‐to-­‐day  living”  

•  These  needs  are  independent  of  age  –  For  our  purposes  though,  we  will  discuss  them  in  the  context  of  reErees    

•  As  a  shorthand,  we  can  call  them  “Ac#vi#es  of  Daily  Living”  

•  We  can  discuss  “Basic  ADLs”  and  “Instrumental  ADLs”  

AcEviEes  of  Daily  Living  

Basic  •  Bathing  •  Dressing  •  Using  the  toilet  •  Transferring  (Bed  to  chair,  

etc)  •  EaEng  •  Caring  for  InconEnence  

Instrumental  •  Housework  •  Managing  money  •  Taking  medicaEons  •  Meal  preparaEon  and  clean  

up  •  Shopping  for  food  and  

clothing  •  CommunicaEons  •  Caring  for  pets  •  Awareness  of  surroudings  

What  is  the  challenge?  

Simply  put…  •  As  a  person  ages,  the  odds  of  being  able  to  successfully  carry  out  various  AcEviEes  of  Daily  Living  decrease  

•  Many  will  make  it  through  their  lives  without  ever  being  challenged  by  ADLs  

•  Many  won’t.  •  The  challenge:    What  to  do?  

What  are  the  odds?  

•  40%  of  people  currently  receiving  long-­‐term  care  are  aged  18-­‐64  

•  70%  of  adults  who  live  past  age  65  will  require  some  type  of  long-­‐term  care  assistance  

•  The  odds  of  needing  care  increase  with  age  – Ages  44-­‐54:    22.6%  – Ages  55-­‐64:    35.7%  – Ages  65-­‐69:    44.9%  

– 2012  Guide  to  Long  Term  Care  

What  are  the  odds?  

•  Someone  turning  age  65  today  has  almost  a  70%  chance  of  needing  some  type  of  long-­‐term  care  services  and  supports  in  their  remaining  years  

•  Women  need  care  longer  (3.7  years)  than  men  (2.2  years)  

•  One-­‐third  of  today’s  65  year-­‐olds  may  never  need  long-­‐term  care  support,  but  20  percent  will  need  it  for  longer  than  5  years  

•  www.longtermcare.gov  

What  are  the  odds?  

www.longtermcare.gov

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐Assessing  the  Risks  

•  What  do  people  insure  against  most  oeen?  –  Homeowners  –  Life  –  Auto  

•  Yet,  what  are  the  risks?  In  any  given  year:  –  1  of  234  homes  will  catch  fire  (0.4%  chance)  –  1  of  106  people  will  die  (0.9%  chance)  –  1  of  17  cars  involved  in  a  serious  accident  (5.9%)  

•  But....  – The  risk  of  needing  care  at  some  point  is  much  higher  than  any  of  these  

Where  can  I  get  the  help?  

•  Family  – Spouse/Partner  – Children/Grandchildren  

•  Friends  •  Charity  •  Professional  Care  

– Out  of  Home  –  In-­‐home  – ResidenEal  FaciliEes  

Caregivers:  Family  and  Friends  

•  A  caregiver  can  be  your  family  member,  partner,  friend  or  neighbor  who  helps  care  for  you  while  you  live  at  home.  

•  About  80  percent  of  care  at  home  is  provided  by  unpaid  caregivers  and  may  include  an  array  of  emoEonal,  financial,  nursing,  social,  homemaking,  and  other  services.  

www.longtermcare.gov

Caregivers  

•  On  average,  caregivers  spend  20  hours  a  week  giving  care.    

•  More  than  half  (58  percent)  have  intensive  caregiving  responsibiliEes  that  may  include  assisEng  with  a  personal  care  acEvity,  such  as  bathing  or  feeding.  

•  About  65.7  million  people  in  the  US  (one  in  four  adults)  were  unpaid  family  caregivers  to  an  adult  or  child  in  2009  

www.longtermcare.gov

Caregivers  

•  About  two-­‐thirds  are  women  •  Fourteen  percent  who  care  for  older  adults  are  themselves  age  65  or  more  

•  Most  people  can  live  at  home  for  many  years  with  help  from  unpaid  family  and  friends,  and  from  other  paid  community  support  

www.longtermcare.gov

Caregivers  

•  Family  members  age  45  to  64  are  likeliest  to  provide  care  to  older  ciEzens  

•  Caregivers  are  a  shrinking  populaEon  – 7  caregivers  today  for  every  person  over  80  – 4  caregivers  in  2030  for  every  person  over  80  

•  Baby  Boomers  turn  80  in  2030  

– 3  caregivers  in  2050  for  every  person  over  80  •  Gen  X  hits  80  in  2050  

•  AARP  BulleEn  November  2013  

What  if  this  is  too  much  for  family  and  friends?  

What  if  I  need  professional  help?  

What  are  your  opEons?  

•  At  home  •  Adult  Day  Care  •  Assisted  Living  FaciliEes  •  Nursing  Homes  

– Skilled  Nursing  Care  –  Intermediate  Nursing  Care  – Personal  or  Custodial  Care  

•  Hospice  

What  are  opEons  to  pay  for  this?  

•  Government  •  Health  Insurance  •  Pay  as  you  go  

–  Cash  –  Investments  –  Savings  –  Earned  Income  –  Borrow  

•  Borrow  –  Home  Equity  –  Reverse  Mortgage  –  Life  Insurance  

•  Pre-­‐Pay  –  Insurance  

•  TradiEonal  Long  Term  Care  

•  Life  Insurance  –  ConEnuing  Care  ReErement  Community  

“I’ve  paid  my  taxes…let  the  government  pay  for  it!!!!!!”  

Medicare  

•  Only  pays  for  long-­‐term  care  if  you  require  skilled  services  or  rehabilitaEve  care:    –  In  a  nursing  home  for  a  maximum  of  100  days  

•  The  average  Medicare  covered  stay  is  much  shorter  (22  days).  

– At  home  if  you  are  also  receiving  skilled  home  health  or  other  skilled  in-­‐home  services.  

•  Generally,  long-­‐term  care  services  are  provided  only  for  a  short  period  of  Eme.  

www.longtermcare.gov

Medicare  

•  Does  not  pay  for  non-­‐skilled  assistance  with  AcEviEes  of  Daily  Living  (ADL),  which  make  up  the  majority  of  long-­‐term  care  services  

•  You  will  have  to  pay  for  long-­‐term  care  services  that  are  not  covered  by  a  public  or  private  insurance  program  

www.longtermcare.gov Emphasis added

Medicare  

•  Very  few  nursing  home  stays  are  covered  by  Medicare.    

•  Medicare  provides  only  limited  coverage  for  long-­‐term  care  related  primarily  to  recuperaEng  from  a  sickness  or  injury.  Medicare  pays  only  for  skilled  nursing  care  and  medically  necessary  services.  You  should  not  rely  on  Medicare  to  pay  for  your  long-­‐term  care  needs.    

State of Wisconsin “Guide to Long Term Care” (emphasis added)

Long-­‐Term  Care  -­‐-­‐Medicare  Supplements  

•  Medicare  Supplement  policies  usually  cover  only  co-­‐pays  and  deducEbles  for  Medicare  covered  benefits  and  services  

•  Worth  considering  as  a  backup  but  not  worth  relying  on  

•  More  likely  to  cover  Dr.  and  hospital  expenses  

Medicaid  •  Medicaid,  also  known  as  Medical  Assistance  or  Title  XIX,  is  a  government  health  care  program  paid  for  by  state  and  federal  governments.  

•  To  be  eligible  for  Medicaid:  –  You  must  be  65  or  over,  or  disabled,  or  in  a  family  with  dependent  children;  and    

–  You  must  have  low  income  and  few  assets;  or  –  You  must  be  paying  so  much  money  for  health  care  that  you  have  very  liole  income  lee.  

•  If  you  are  eligible,  Medicaid  will  pay  for  most  health  care  costs,  including  nursing  home  and  community-­‐based  care.     State of Wisconsin

“Guide to Long Term Care” (emphasis added)

Long-­‐Term  Care  -­‐-­‐Medicaid  

•  Medicaid  is  a  “means-­‐tested”  program  that  provides  coverage  for  those  who  fall  below  specified  levels  for:  –  Income  –  Assets  

•  In  other  words,  you  have  to  be  poor.  •  Is  this  what  you  want  to  plan  for?  

Medicaid  

•  AddiEonal  Issues…  – Not  all  faciliEes  accept  Medicaid  paEents  – Limited  or  no  control  over  which  facility  you  can  use  

– May  be  placed  far  away  from  your  home  – Medicaid  may  recover  a  porEon  of  your  estate  aeer  your  death  

– Your  surviving  spouse  may  have  liole  lee  – Your  surviving  partner  may  have  nothing  lee  

“I’m  sEll  working…what  about  my  health  insurance?”  

Health  Insurance  

•  Most  employer-­‐sponsored  or  private  health  insurance,  including  health  insurance  plans,  cover  only  the  same  kinds  of  limited  services  as  Medicare  

•  If  they  do  cover  long-­‐term  care,  it  is  typically  only  for  skilled,  short-­‐term,  medically  necessary  care  

•  If  you  are  disabled  and  have  disability  insurance,  that  can  help  with  expenses  

OK—what  if  I  have  to  pay  for  this  myself?  

How  expensive  is  it?    

It  depends  on  what  and  where…  

Met Life Market Survey 2012

“Ok—what  about  Wisconsin?”  

Nursing  Home  Costs:    Wisconsin  

Assisted  Living  Costs:    Wisconsin  

Home  Care:    Wisconsin  

What  about  Madison?  

•  Home  Health  Care  –  Home  Health  Aide  

•  $  25  hour    –  Homemaker  

•  $  22  hour    

•  Assisted  living  –  $3,760  month  –  $45,120  year  

•  Nursing  Home:  Private  Room  –  $261  per  day  –  $95,265  per  year  

•  Nursing  Home:    Semi-­‐Private  Room  –  $245  per  day  –  $89,425  per  year  

Met Life Market Survey 2012 All prices are averages

Cost  of  Care  in  Madison:  Another  PerspecEve  

Can  I  pay  for  this?  

•  Income  – Pension  and  Social  Security  – Part  Time  Work  

•  Assets  – ReErement  Savings  – Non-­‐ReErement  Savings  

•  Real  Estate  – Primary  Residence  – VacaEon  Home/Second  Home  

QuesEons  to  Ask  

•  What  is  your  aeer-­‐tax  monthly  income  from  all  sources?  

•  What  is  the  value  of  your  non-­‐reErement  assets?  

•  What  is  the  aeer-­‐tax  value  of  your  reErement  assets?  

•  Is  your  house  fully  paid  for?  •  What  is  the  death  benefit  of  your  permanent  life  insurance?  

Can  I  borrow?  •  Home  Equity  Loan  

– Will  sEll  need  to  meet  income  requirements  to  establish  

•  Home  Equity  Line  – Will  need  to  start  repayments  as  soon  as  draw  

•  Reverse  Mortgage  –  Line  or  Loan  –  Amount  borrowed  taken  from  proceeds  of  sale  at  death  

•  Many  restricEons  and  rules—be  careful  

•  Life  Insurance  –  Borrow  against  cash  value  

•  Balance  owed  paid  from  death  proceeds  

Can  I  use  exisEng  life  insurance  policies  to  pay  for  long-­‐term  care?  

•  You  can  use  your  life  insurance  policy  to  help  pay  for  long-­‐term  care  services  through  the  following  opEons:  –  Accelerated  Death  Benefits  (ADBs)  

•  Must  be    terminally  ill  or  have  life  threatening  diagnosis  

–  Life  seolements  •  Sell  policy  for  cash—may  be  taxable  •  Usually  only  available  to  men  over  70  and  women  over  74  

–  ViaEcal  seolements  •  Similar  to  life  seolements  but  not  taxable  •  Must  be  terminally  ill  

www.longtermcare.gov

“OK-­‐now  what?”  

•  Let’s  take  a  closer  look  at  some  opEons  – ConEnuing  Care  ReErement  CommuniEes  – Linked  Benefit  Life  Insurance  Policies  – Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  

 

Con#nuing  Care  Re#rement  Communi#es  

ConEnuing  Care  ResidenEal  CommuniEes  

•  RelaEvely  new  form  of  long-­‐term  care  for  seniors  

•  Blend  of  independent  living,  assisted  living,  and  nursing  home  care  

•  Can  provide  guarantee  of  lifeEme  housing,  social  interacEon,  and  increased  levels  of  care  as  needed  

CCRC  Living  OpEons  

•  Living  op#ons  can  include:  –  Independent  apartments  –  Assisted  living  – Memory  Care  –  Skilled  Nursing  Care  

•  Addi#onal  services  can  be  included  as  needed  – Meals  –  Housekeeping  –  Laundry  –  Health  and  wellness  –  Social  and  RecreaEonal  AcEviEes  

–  TransportaEon  – MedicaEon  monitoring  

Paying  for  CCRCs  •  Most  require  an  upfront  payment  as  well  as  monthly  charges  depending  on  services  

•  Can  ‘pre-­‐pay’  for  lifeEme  care  but  fees  may  range  from  $100,000  to  $1,000,000  or  more  

•  Contract  opEons  can  include:  – Life  care  or  extended  care:  pre-­‐pay  for  unlimited  care  as  needed  

– Modified  care  contract:    pre-­‐pay  for  specified  period  of  Eme  and  then  renew  as  needed  

– Fee-­‐for-­‐Service:    Pay  as  you  go  

OpEons  are  Limited  

Capitol  Lakes  

Oakwood  Village  

Asc  Angel  Place  

How  much  do  they  cost?  An  Example  

•  Independent  Living  Apartment  –  All  services  and  meals  –  RecreaEonal  and  Social  Services  –  1  bedroom/1  bath  (891  square  feet)  

•  Up-­‐front  fee:    $150,000  •  Monthly  fee:    $2,500/$3,100  (1  per/2  per)  

–  2  bedroom/2  bath  (1,400  square  feet)  •  Up-­‐front  fee:    $230,000  •  Monthly  fee:    $3,400/$4,000  (1  per/2  per)  

•  Assisted  Living  and  Skilled  Nursing  have  higher  monthly  fees  

CCRCs—Are  they  for  you?  

•  Like  most  things….it  depends  •  How  important  is  it  for  you  to  have  some  guarantees  of  coverage?  

•  Can  you  afford  the  upfront  fee?  •  What  are  your  feelings  about  a  legacy?  •  Will  your  family  understand  “giving  away”  assets  to  pay  for?  – Will  you?  

“Linked  Benefit  Life  Insurance”  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Life  Policies  

•  New  (relaEvely)  types  of  policies  on  market  •  Are  life  insurance  policies  that  provide  coverage  for  long-­‐term  care  costs  

•  Must  be  able  to  meet  underwriEng  criteria  •  Any  benefit  taken  reduces  death  benefit  

– Benefit  is  usually  equal  to  2%  of  death  benefit  paid  annually  

•  If  no  benefits  taken,  full  death  benefit  paid  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Life  Policies  

•  Most  policies  are  “single  premium”  whole  life  policies  

•  Premium  can  be  anywhere  from  25%-­‐75%  of  face  amount  depending  on  age  and  health  – Remember….face  amount  will  always  be  more  than  premium  

•  Best  for  “un-­‐needed”  lump  sums  – CDs  –  IRA’s  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Life  Policies  

•  Ray  and  Marge  Smith  •  65  years  old  •  $100,000  single  premium  payment  •  Death/Long-­‐term  care  benefit:    $195,312  •  Monthly  LTC  benefit:    $3,906  each  

– For  either  or  both  as  needed  – 50  months  total  benefit  – Balance  at  death,  if  any,  to  named  beneficiary  

Long  Term  Care  Insurance  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐Recent  History  

•  Mixed  History  in  the  Market  Place  –  1970s  and  1980s:    Very  limited  and  restricEve  

•  High  barriers  to  claims  •  Many  did  not  cover  mental  incapacitaEon  

•  Government  IntervenEon  –  Late  1980s,  early  1990s  –  Imposed  Standards  for  Policies  – Many  providers  leave  field  – Many  providers  lost  significant  amounts  on  this  line  of  business  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐Current  SituaEon  

•  Many  Providers  Returning  to  the  LTC  Marketplace  

•  Generally  beoer  policies  – More  responsive  to  consumer  needs  – More  adherence  to  government  rules  – Beoer  underwriEng  – Beoer  understanding  of  costs  and  long-­‐term  reserve  needs  

Long  Term  Care  Insurance:  Current  SituaEon  

•  Long  Term  Care  Insurance  is  available  but  not  widely  used  

•  EsEmates  are  that  there  were  approximately  7  million  LTC  insurance  policies  in  force  in  2009*  

•  By  contrast,  there  were  approximately  42  million  Medicare  enrollees  age  65  or  older  in  2012**  

*Journal  of  Financial  Planning,  May  2012  

**NaEonal  Commioee  to  Preserve  Social  Security  and  Medicare,  2014  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  

•  Long-­‐term  care  insurance  pays  a  daily  or  monthly  benefit  for  medical  or  custodial  care  received  in  a  nursing  facility,  in  a  hospital,  or  at  home  –  People  who  reach  age  65  will  likely  have  a  40%  chance  of  entering  a  nursing  home,  and  about  10%  of  them  will  stay  there  five  years  or  more  

•  LTC  Plans  come  in  three  main  forms:  –  A  facility-­‐only  policy    –  A  home  health  care  policy  –  A  comprehensive  policy    

•  This  is  most  common  now  

Requirements  

•  Long  Term  Care  Insurance  policies  are  underwrioen  – Medical  – Physical  – Psychological  

•  Focus  on  morbidity,  not  mortality  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐UnderwriEng  

•  Long  Term  Care  Insurance  is  not  like  life  insurance  – Life  Underwriters  Worry  about  Mortality  

•  Things  which  are  likely  to  kill  you  – Long-­‐Term  Care  Underwriters  Worry  about  Morbidity  

•  Things  which  are  likely  to  make  you  sick,  disabled,  or  leave  you  in  need  of  assistance  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  

•  Common  features  of  LTC  policies  include:  – Daily  benefits  range  from  $50  -­‐  $300  or  more  – Most  policies  are  reimbursement  policies,  which  reimburse  for  actual  charges  up  to  a  daily  limit  

•  Some  policies  reimburse  on  a  per  diem  basis  

– Many  insurers  offer  policies  with  pooled  benefits,  which  provide  a  total  dollar  amount  that  can  be  used  to  pay  for  the  different  types  of  long-­‐term  care  services  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance:  Common  Features  

•  An  eliminaEon  period  is  a  waiEng  period  during  which  Eme  benefits  are  not  paid  aeer  meeEng  qualificaEons  – 0/30/60/90/100/180/360  days  – Basically  Self  Insurance  for  Daily  Rate  for  Specified  Period  of  Time-­‐-­‐”DeducEble”  

•  i.e.  180  days  x  $125  daily  benefit  =  $22,550  of  benefit  not  received  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐Common  Features  (cont)  

•  Benefit  Period  – 360/720/1240  etc.  days  of  coverage  

•  Usually  creates  a  pool  of  benefit  –  i.e.  720  days  x  $135  day  =  $97,200  benefits  

– Unlimited  •  InflaEon  ProtecEon  

–  None/Simple/Compound  •  Unlike  DI,  Usually  Starts  Right  Away  

–  Be  Prepared  to  JusEfy  an  ElecEon  of  “None”  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐Common  Features  (cont)  

•  “Guaranteed  Renewable”  -­‐-­‐Rates  can  increase  by  class-­‐-­‐most  common  

•  ”Non-­‐Cancellable”-­‐-­‐Rates  cannot  be  increased-­‐-­‐expensive  opEon  on  most  

•  Non-­‐Forfeiture-­‐-­‐expensive  opEon  on  most  •  Spousal  Discounts-­‐-­‐becoming  common  •  Tax  Qualified  vs.  Non-­‐Tax  Qualified  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐Claims  

•  A  benefit  trigger  must  be  met  to  receive  benefits.  Either:  – The  insured  is  unable  to  perform  2  or  3  acEviEes  of  daily  living  (ADLs),    

•  Physical  Inability-­‐-­‐”Need  SubstanEal  Assistance”  or  – The  insured  needs  substanEal  supervision  to  be  protected  against  threats  to  health  and  safety  because  of  a  severe  cogniEve  impairment  

•  When  Meet  Criteria,  Payout  Occurs    

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐Claims  (cont.)  

•  Who  Decides  What?  –  “Qualified  Medical  Professional”  

•  Can  someEmes  include  social  worker  

– Must  agree  that  condiEon  is  likely  to  “persist”  •  90  Days  is  the  usual  Eme  period  

– Who  Picks  “Qualified  Medical  Professional”?  •  You/Company/Both-­‐-­‐READ  THE  FINE  PRINT  

•  Who  can  help?  – Care  Coordinator-­‐-­‐Usually  AddiEonal  Benefits  if  Selected  

Long  Term  Care  Insurance  

•  Some  states  have  long-­‐term  care  partnership  programs  designed  to  reduce  Medicaid  expenditures  by  eliminaEng  or  reducing  incenEves  of  some  people  to  rely  on  Medicaid  to  pay  for  long-­‐term  care  

•  To  encourage  people  to  purchase  private  partnership  policies,  part  or  all  of  their  assets  are  protected  from  the  Medicaid  spend-­‐down  requirements  

What  about  ETF  endorsed  programs?  

What  about  ETF  endorsed  programs?  

AddiEonal  Benefits  to  Consider  

•  Unused  sick  leave  credits  can  be  used  to  pay  premiums  

•  Can  convert  Basic  Group  Life  insurance  coverage  to  pay  for  premiums  

•  Contact  Employee  Trust  Funds  for  addiEonal  informaEon  

How  should  I  think  about  Long  Term  Care  Insurance?  

Providing  for  Long  Term  Care  Needs  

•  Good  Financial  Planning  Helps  People  with  Four  “What  If?”  QuesEons  – What  If  you  die  prematurely?  

•  Life  Insurance  – What  If  you  cannot  work  and  earn  an  income?  

•  Disability  Insurance  – What  If  you  cannot  reach  your  financial  goals?  

•  InvesEng  – What  If  you  cannot  take  care  of  yourself?  

•  Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐Why  don’t  many  have?  

•  Of  those  four  “What  Ifs”—Long  term  care  is  the  least  likely  to  be  used  

•  Why?  –  People  KNOW  they  will  die-­‐-­‐just  a  maoer  of  sooner  or  later  –  People  KNOW  that  they  can  and  likely  will  use  their  investments  –  People  HOPE  that  they  won’t  be  disabled  and  need  DI  or  LTC  –  People  BELIEVE  they  are  invincible-­‐-­‐at  least  now  –  Both  DI  and  LTC  suffer  from  “sEcker  shock”  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐Why  Consider  It?  

•  Preserve  Independence,  both  financial  and  emoEonal  

•  Preserve/protect  assets  –  For  yourselves  and  for  your  heirs  

•  Avoid  emoEonal,  physical,  and  financial  burdens  on  family-­‐-­‐spouse,  children,  grandchildren  

•  Avoid  becoming  financial  liability  •  Assure  that  you  can  get  good  quality  care  

–  Despite  legal  protecEons,  Medicare/Medicaid  paEents  do  not  always  get  the  best  care  or  choices  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐Obstacles  

•  Why  Don’t  People  Buy?  – ”I  Don’t  Need  It”  – “I’ll  Get  it  Later”  – ”It  is  Too  Expensive”  – ”Medicare  Covers  Me”  – ”We’d  Have  Enough  to  Cover  It”  – “What  If  I  Die  and  Don’t  Use  It?”  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐Obstacles  

•  ”I  Don’t  Need  It”  –  Review  your  assets  and  decide  if  you  feel  comfortable  paying  out  a  significant  porEon  to  a  nursing  home  or  other  providers-­‐-­‐review  odds  of  needing  care  

–  Do  you  have  any  plans  for  passing  along  assets?  •  Do  you  want  to  protect  your  inheritance  plans?  

•  “I’ll  Get  it  Later”  –  Like  all  age-­‐based  policies,  it  gets  more  expensive  as  you  wait  

–  As  you  get  older,  the  odds  of  something  happening  to  affect  your  ability  to  qualify  increase  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐Obstacles  

•  ”It’s  Too  Expensive”  – Compared  to  what?  – Consider  costs  paid-­‐in  versus  potenEal  payout  – Maybe  it  makes  sense  as  “asset  insurance”  or  “inheritance  protecEon”  

– Are  mulEple  coverage  opEons  

•  “Medicare  Covers  Me”  – Yes-­‐but  as  we  have  discussed,  only  in  very  limited  circumstances  

Long-­‐Term  Care  Insurance  -­‐-­‐Obstacles  

•  “We’d  Have  Enough  To  Cover  It”  – Can  one  afford  to  self-­‐insure?  – Does  it  make  sense  to  self-­‐insure?  – How  many  can  afford  to  write  a  check  for  $100,000  or  more?  

– You  may  have  enough  to  cover  the  cost-­‐-­‐but  is  that  really  how  you  want  to  spend  that  money?  

•  “What  if  I  Die  and  Never  Use  This  Insurance?”  – Think  about  that  for  a  minute….  

When  to  buy?  •  If  you  buy  a  policy  at  age  75,  the  premium  will  generally  be  

two  and  a  half  Emes  greater  than  if  you  had  bought  the  policy  at  age  65.  

•  It  will  be  six  Emes  higher  than  if  you  bought  at  age  55.  •  If  you  buy  a  policy  with  a  large  daily  benefit  or  a  longer  

benefit  period,  it  will  also  cost  you  more.  •  InflaEon  protecEon  can  add  25%  to  40%  to  the  premium.  •  Nonforfeiture  benefits  can  add  10%  to  100%  to  the  premium.  

•  NAIC  Shoppers  Guide  

OK—that  was  a  lot  to  digest…let’s  wrap  things  up!  

Review  

•  The  potenEal  costs  of  long  term  care  are  significant  

•  The  odds  of  needing  care  are  high…but  whether  you  will  need  it  is  unknown  

•  There  are  many  opEons  to  pay  for  this  care…but  none  are  aoracEve  

•  The  choice  of  which  opEon  to  select  depends  on  your  individual  situaEon  

QuesEons?    

 Thank-­‐you!  

Karen Goebel provided some useful handouts for people who attended Professor McCalla's seminar. If you didnot get the handouts and would like to read them, you can acquire all of them on line. Here are the links atwhich they can be obtained.

· The Senior Guide from the Department of Agriculture, Trade & Consumer Protection offers advice onavoiding scams - and recovering from scams - directed at seniors. It can be downloaded from:http://datcp.wi.gov/consumer/senior_guide/index.aspx

· The Guide to Long-Term Care from the Office of the Commissioner of Insurance is available on line at:http://www.oci.wi.gov/pub_list/pi-047.htm

· The Wisconsin Guide to Health Insurance for People with Medicare from the Office of the Commissionerof Insurance is available on line at:http://oci.wi.gov/pub_list/pi-002.htm

· Long-Term Care Insurance Approved Policies in Wisconsin from the Office of the Commissioner ofInsurance is available on line at:http://oci.wi.gov/pub_list/pi-046.htm

· The Medicare Supplement Insurance Approved Policies List 2013 from the Office of the Commissioner ofInsurance is available on line at:http://www.oci.wi.gov/pub_list/pi-010.htm