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December 13, 2012 By Norman Lebrecht 139 Comments

These are the final choices on the ballot sheet. You can vote for one orch in each category. All votes must be

in by Thursday midnight. The criteria for selection are outlined here. All stories can be searched further in

Slipped Disc.

For best orchestra of 2012

Los Angeles Phil Advanced Brand Dudamel to all four corners of the earth, split a Mahler cycle

between US and Venezuela

Chicago Despite short strike, sounding happier under Muti, travelling wider

Detroit Out of strike zone, online, on-air, looking years ahead.

Sao Paolo First Lat-Am orch to go global

Tonhalle Zurich Took huge risk on 26 yr-old music director, going boldly for renewal

Qatar Phil - Hired 29 yr-old woman as music director in bid to shake off ancient prejudices

Orquesta de Extremadura Survived against impossible odds in remote part of Spain

@twtrsymphony Breaking new ground

Philharmonia Launched a groundbreaking app.

Berlin Phil Signed brilliant tech deal with Sony, plus the usual reasons

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Worst orchs of 2012

Malaysian Phiharmonic Fired 9 foreign players, got placed on international boycott

Johnnesburg Phil Shut down

Minnesota Locked its players out

Atlanta Likewise, with menaces

OSR Geneva Fired new manager, mired in squabbles

Israel Phil Still no Arab players, and rough on guest conductors

Vienna Phil Lost its trombone section, still resistant to women

London Philharmonic Lost 15% of its business, sacrificed player control, played two venues on the samenight

Berlin Phil Behaved badly in Salzburg, stumbling in Baden-Baden, all the usual reasons.

Ulster Orchestra Faces being shrunk to chamber orch

There’s still room to add more, but time’s getting short…

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1. Brian says:December 13, 2012 at 1:10 pm

My votes:

Best: LA Philharmonic. For making tangible efforts to reflect our multicultural society and mostly avoid

business-as-usual programming.

Worst: Vienna Philharmonic. An over-hyped bastion of backwards thinking towards women. Ifallowed a runner-up vote, Minnesota would win that hands down.

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lourdes rdriguez says:December 20, 2012 at 11:51 pm

Best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura.

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Raquel says:December 21, 2012 at 12:35 pm

My vote is São Paulo Symphony Orchestra (OSESP)!!!!!!!

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2. william osborne says:

December 13, 2012 at 2:37 pm

With women representing only 14% of its personnel thirty years after agreeing to admit them, Berlin

suffers from problems similar to Vienna’s. They have made progress, but it has been unnecessarily

slow.

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3. Michael Hurshell says:

December 13, 2012 at 2:50 pm

Re Vienna: no question that the non-hiring of women would place it high on the “bad” list – IF this

were a contest about morals. But the BRAND Wiener Philharmoniker is still as successful as it ever

was. The New Year’s concert is still one of the most widely watched events on world wide TV. Therecordings still outsell others after half a century (example: Solti Ring). And on top of that they are still

one of the most unbelievable sounding bands ever. If the world were a more just place, the VPO’s

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attitude toward hiring female players would no doubt have trashed the brand by now… but the worldisn’t, and the brand is right up there. As Hofmannsthal says: “San halt aso…”

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william osborne says:

December 13, 2012 at 4:35 pm

We should also remember the VPO has a history of discrimination against Asians. Whether or

not the orchestra sells records, its name is inextricably tied to racism and especially sexism. That

is poor branding.

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Brian Hughes says:

December 13, 2012 at 9:42 pm

Despite its problems with discrimination, it is hard to argue with the VPO “brand.” AND,

let’s be honest, it’s “their” (the players, right?) orchestra and they should be allowed to

operate the organization as they wish. If individuals have difficulties with their racism,sexism, etc. (and I’m not brushing these off lightly) then don’t buy recordings, attend

performances, watch the New Year’s gala on TV. The VPO “brand” still stands for

tradition and excellence, throughout its history.

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william osborne says:

December 14, 2012 at 10:28 am

The VPO is the same orchestra as the Vienna State Opera Orchestra. It is against

both Austrian and European law for public institutions to discriminate on the basis

of race or sex.

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Michael Endres says:

December 14, 2012 at 11:12 am

I do enjoy the unique sound of VPO immensely,and it is absolutely their business

how they run their highly successful orchestra. The VPO certainly contributes more

to musical life than self appointed PC watchdogs,who’s only interest in music

seems to be that a certain quota is achieved.This survey seems to be about extra musical affairs . The Tonhalle , the

Philharmonia and the Quatar Phil above the VPO ?

This survey reminds me of totalitarian East Germany,where the right political

attitude was the decisive factor in all affairs,never the actual quality. PCcorrectness is the new religion.

If one does not comply one’s ” name is inextricably tied to racism and especially

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sexism”. The VPO’s is all over the world considered as one of the top orchestras

with a unique sound,not found in any other band. But that does not even getmentioned any more, so it seems. It simply does not count. What solely counts is

the missing quota……

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william osborne says:

December 14, 2012 at 12:00 pm

People recognize both the musical qualities of the VPO and its social

problems. Solving those problems will help insure the future of the

orchestra. As one example, almost all of the young players of the Vienna

oboe are girls. By resisting women the orchestra puts the Philharmonic’sstyle in jeopardy.

4. Christopher Oakmount says:

December 13, 2012 at 3:22 pm

I agree that Vienna has a rotten record on female hiring, however:

The VPO lost two excellent players, including ONE of their principals, but they did NOT lose theirtrombone section which . It is still unclear if they were really bullied out of the orchestra, as many

suggest, or if other factors (like interesting job alternatives or simply English native speakers wanting to

return to an English speaking country to their families and friends) played a role.

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5. Sam McElroy says:

December 13, 2012 at 3:47 pm

In the last three years I have had fortunate occasion to hear many top orchestras all over the world,

most of which are wonderful, of course, but some of which are comatose. BUT, the best SOUND, the

best musical experience BY FAR has come from an orchestra that will certainly not feature on the list,because it is not yet a worldwide brand, nor does it try to be, or aspire to be, or attempt to monetize

itself. A multi-cultural gathering, it is assembled every summer by audition, holds a residency in a

random corner of the Americas, then tours adventurous programs and infectious enthusiasm throughout

whatever territory is lucky enough to have it that year. Its leader is the absolutely wonderful CarlosMiguel Prieto. Any guesses?

The Youth Orchestra of the Americas, or the YOA as we know it. I will NEVER forget their Brahms

no.1 or Shostakovich no.10, in Colombia, 2010. Returning after that summer to hear certain NorthAmerican “professional” orchestras was like checking out of the George V and into a Motel 6.

The work the YOA does, under the radar, is absolutely extraordinary, and I can’t wait to spend next

July with them, even if I won’t be performing…

http://www.yoa.org

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Mark Reneau says:

December 13, 2012 at 4:58 pm

I can only agree: Carlos Prieto is a wonderful conductor. I was concertmaster during his tenure

with the Huntsville Symphony, and my youngest son plays in his trumpet section in the Louisiana

Phil. Carlos always arrived in Huntsville exhausted AND highly energized by those tours withthe YOA.

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6. Eyal Braun says:

December 13, 2012 at 3:55 pm

The Israel PO recently launched an academy in Shfar’am, an arab city near Haifa ,which recruit thebest arab-Israeli young musician, the aim is to add arab musicians to the orchestra in the coming years.

Mehta has declared many times that he wants to add Arab musicians to the orchestra and this will

probably happen within the next few years.

and another arab- israeli program of the IPO:

http://www.ipo-kids.org/en/jewish_arab/

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Norman Lebrecht says:

December 13, 2012 at 3:55 pm

Todah, Eyal! Wa-shuqran!

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7. Domingo Cáceres says:December 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm

I just want to Thank You the Orquesta de Extremadura nomination.

Here You can see a couple of post in my blog with images of the “musical resistance”.

http://domingocaceres.com/2012/06/extremadura-quiere-a-su-orquesta.html

http://domingocaceres.com/2012/07/vigilia-a-favor-de-la-orquesta-de-extremadura.html

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Norman Lebrecht says:

December 13, 2012 at 4:02 pm

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wonderful!

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8. Chip Michael says:

December 13, 2012 at 4:20 pm

TwtrSymphony is breaking new ground by creating a ‘virtual’ orchestra of live musicians from around

the world. We’re also proving the power or social media for classical music given our rise in globalpopularity in less than 9 months.

Thanks for the mention and helping spread the word about this awesome project!

Chip Michael

Music Director

TwtrSymphony

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9. AA Harper says:

December 13, 2012 at 5:09 pm

Firstly, the Vienna Phil principal trombone decided to leave of his own accord, was not bullied out,

and was NOT the whole section (no idea where that came from).

Also, in launching the new app, the Philharmonia also stopped taking bookings by text, effectivelyostracising members of the student scheme who couldn’t afford an expensive smartphone, losing them

stock in my books. I was actually a student rep and resigned for this reason.

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william osborne says:

December 13, 2012 at 5:28 pm

At issue were the working conditions in comparison to alternatives that made two trombonistsdecide to leave.

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10. Rgiarola says:

December 13, 2012 at 5:12 pm

I Think I would be kind of suspicious on my vote. However, It is important to mention that São Paulo

Symphony Orchestra (OSESP) was a complete and truly provincial band until 15 years ago, since thenthey had been doing a tremendous progress (Including Brand development), and specially in recent

years such: 1 – Contract with a good MD for some years after a trial with musicians participation (The

MD is Marin Alsop and the previous one was Yan Pascal Tortelier that is principal guest now). 2 – A

contract with Naxos label to record not just Brazilian music such Villa-Lobos, but they are recording

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all Prokofiev Symphonies with Alsop, and had already made Tchaikovsky with Tortelier with good

reviews even outside the country) 3 – An exclusive concert hall (Sala SP) for 1.800 people with anacoustic considered good enough also by most guest artist (Hahn, Kovacevich, Muti, Vanska,

Josefowicz, Mehta, Berglund, Freire, Masur,Volodos etc – I should mention that Abbado did not

appreciate it when He was rehearsing there years ago with Berliner). 4 – A year budget around of

48,6 millions $USD (64% provided by the state government, 34% own resources) and musicians

salaries on average with business executives. Since 1996 there weren’t any strikes. 5 – Many demands

for new compositions and every year a 2 weeks all around with guest composers in person working

with the orchestra and audience (Recently years were Gubaidulina, Part and Golijov). 6 – Fully

booked tickets for most concerts. 7 – Increase from no subscriptions (Zero) on 1996 to more than60% of total tickets on 2012. 8 – In the last years they had been touring to many places in the North

America and Europe playing in well know places such Concertgebouw or at Proms 2012 with Alsop

and pianist Nelson Freire. 9 – Weekly podcast of their concerts by Local Radio and through internet.

10 – From 1934 until 1996 The orchestra was barely recognized as a professional one, on 2012 is

considered as strong respectful brand that attract sponsors support in the country. They are not top-

notch yet, but considering achievement in recent years, they can get it very soon.

The manager in charge for most of this changes was John Neschling.

This info can be checked on the orchestra site (In English)

http://www.osesp.art.br/portal/paginadinamica.aspx?pagina=orquestra&en=1 Steven moss article for

The Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/aug/14/marin-alsop-sao-paulo-orchestra And

the Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/proms/9480604/Proms-2012-Sao-Paulo-

SOAlsop-Royal-Albert-Hall-review.html

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Rita Maria says:

December 20, 2012 at 12:44 am

just correcting, Abbado wasn’ t rehearsing at Sala Sao Paulo with Berliner, they performed at

Teatro Municipal, another concert hall, In fact Abbado was not happy for not playing in Saa

Sao Paulo, he knew about it but didn’ t visite the venue.

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11. Seen it says:

December 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm

Paraphrasing Dickens , “It was the best of orchestras, it was the worst of orchestras.” This

schizophrenic nomination goes to the Rochester Philharmonic Orchestra, Rochester, NY.

“BEST” for recognizing talent and a great fit with the community it serves by hiring as Music DirectorArild Remmereit. He has updated the repertoire, sparked excitement in the hall and region, and

regularly features works of women composers in the city that was the home of pivotal American

suffragist Susan B. Anthony. According to many in the audience, the musicians have never sounded

better. Finally, the maestro received awards for innovative programming for his efforts.

“WORST” because in late November 2012 the RPO board called for his 4 year contract to be

broken after 1 1/2 years, and is engaged in a public and messy debate about his interpersonal relations

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with management, the board and musicians.

As of this writing, over 1,000 subscribers, patrons and musicians from around the world have signed

and commented on a change.org petition on his behalf. Substantial donations have been rescinded,

board members who favor him have resigned, and the divisive public debate has brought much

negative publicity. This at a time when this orchestra is, once again, suffering a deficit. Firing anextremely talented MD just before the holidays is not sitting well with the general public.

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12. Emil Archambault says:

December 13, 2012 at 5:27 pm

Can you elaborate on the Wiener Phil’s trombone section? I haven’t heard anything about it.

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Norman Lebrecht says:

December 13, 2012 at 5:36 pm

click the link

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13. malaysiaboleh says:December 13, 2012 at 5:32 pm

Malaysian Philharmonic Orchestra – for worst development during 2012 and negative future outlook!

You’ve mentioned the 9 sacked players and the international audition boycott of the Malaysian

Philharmonic Orchestra. In fact that is just the tip of the iceberg.

The recent verdict in a Malaysia court case shows clearly that the MPO mistreated their musiciansafter the sudden change of management in 2010.

The decline of this once so solid and hopeful orchestra happens on many levels.

A few more things to add to the list:

>with season 2012/13 new, far worse, more restrictive contracts with clearly less salary than before.

Replacing the dismissed key players with equally professional musicians is – under the currentcircumstances – next to impossible.

>The change from a full time full size (ca 100 players) orchestra to a pickup band. There are about 40

vacancies now…only filled if needed with substitutes…

It is safe to say that many of the musicians left because of the unacceptable behavior (and controversial

renewal) of the music director. No doubt, more musicians will resign soon because of the generally

worsened working conditions

>What never is mentioned: Also a significant number of key personnel at the office resigned (or have

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been dismissed) during the last two years

>The decisions made during recent internal auditions show that there won’t be a change from the

corrupt way Mr. Flor handled hiring, firing and promotions so far. MPO Musicians are not consulted,

and if they are asked their opinion is noted but ignored.

>No CD recordings with BIS anymore, after many years of successful collaboration. As aninternational brand that might be the biggest damage possible.

>Considering that the mother company is an oil giant (#25 on Forbes list of the world biggest oil

companies with ca 1.4 mio barrels output per day ) there are obviously no financial reasons for this

development. So if this is the result of political decisions the question should be: What comes next?

With the unjustified dismissals, the malicious policy of the new management and music director, the

new contracts and the lost international reputation 2012 was indeed a devastating year for theMalaysian Philharmonic Orchestra. A shame what happened there!

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MPO Fan says:

December 14, 2012 at 6:10 am

As a long time follower of the MPO, it saddens me to see these kinds of moves. I had read

about the international boycott for auditions but what happened with the internal auditions?

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malaysiaboleh says:

December 18, 2012 at 1:47 pm

What happened? Flor happened.

Here a quote from the recently updated musicians handbook (which is part of theemployment contract)

“At the end of the audition, wether live or recorded, the AP (audition panel) will meet

together.

AP members may offer comments if they wish, after which an advisory vote may be

taken by secret ballot.

The Music director shall have a right to veto over the selection of any member of theOrchestra.”

same thing for trials:

“At the end of the trial period, the blablabla bla bla bla

….The Music Director shall have the final decision over the selection of any member of

the orchestra…”

So the whole audition process is a one man show, a joke by international standards.

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Flor can employ or promote anybody with or without audition who will fit his personal

agenda.

Most musicians (principals and orchestra council members) who got involved in an

attempt to implement a fair and transparent audition procedure got sacked.

Previous and recent decisions show that Mr.Flor’s priorities are based on his own

benefits.

Artistic professional level and development of the orchestra is certainly not top of his list.Wondering if it is on his list at all…

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14. Iain Scott says:

December 13, 2012 at 5:39 pm

Well I notice my serios suggestion of best orchestra , the Royal Scottish National Orchestra,based on

increased houses,fabulous paying and ongoing growth of audience seems to have failed the Editor’sedit.

Mayb that’s because I failed to enter into the gossipy and bitchy spirit of this facille post.

Anyone go any serious thought?

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15. Norman Lebrecht says:

December 13, 2012 at 6:44 pm

From a reader who needs to preserve anonymity: I would like my nomination for worst orchestra to

remain anonymous.It is the KwaZulu Natal Philharmonic, from Durban South Africa.

The CEO insists on being the Artistic Director as well, and programsthe same non-progressive works constantly. He earns a massive salary,whilst the over-worked musicians (constantly changing schedules to

accommodate politically motivated concerts) barely live above thepoverty line, and cannot hold teaching jobs due to the constantly

shifting schedule.Non-existing marketing, ensures audiences dwindle and what public

concerts are available, are lacking in any form of real musicalsubstance. The development mandate of the orchestra is barely met,with no real emphasis on programming local soloists or conductors.

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16. James says:

December 13, 2012 at 7:15 pm

The Johannesburg Philharmonic has not closed down yet. They’re in a lot of trouble, but they’retechnically not done for yet and we’re all holding thumbs that they can get through their current

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management-driven mess.

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Jean Campbell Collen says:

December 14, 2012 at 9:24 am

I sincerely hope that the Johannesburg Philharmonic orchestra can be saved. It will be a disaster

if we lose all the wonderful players in the orchestra for their contribution does so much to propup the crumbling cultural and musical life in Johannesburg.

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17. Spencer Down says:December 13, 2012 at 7:42 pm

Thank you for a using a picture of the Mayor’s Jubilee Brass Band for your piece, a group of youngmusicians from the four London music colleges together with the Mayor’s scholars from deprived partsof London. The band was pulled together to perform on one of the barges for the Queen’s Jubilee

pageant.

They were all heroes. They performed with energy and brilliance despite being soaked through to the

skin for the duration and ignored by the BBC! Some of the young musicians were as young as 10years old.

I know this because I am the one standing in the middle with the red baseball cap waving the baton!

Surely they have got to be up for a nomination for the best…

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18. BPJ says:December 13, 2012 at 7:48 pm

Based on recent concerts I’ve attended, I vote for the Atlanta Symphony as one of the BEST.

Musically they are first rate. (If current fund raising efforts bear fruit, then the financial situation shouldimprove as well, and in two years musicians’ pay should increase.)

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19. Martin Bookspan says:

December 13, 2012 at 8:59 pm

Come on, Norman. Because there apparently are no Arab musicians in the Israel Philharmonic, asituation sure to change in the next few years (barring the annihilation of the Jewish State of Israel by

brothers of any potential Arab symphony musicians) , the Orchestra lands on a list of the worstorchestras in the world? How many Arab players are in the Berlin Philharmonic, the Vienna

Philharmonic, the Boston Symphony, and on and on?

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It’s a question of culture. After the Arab expulsion or murder of most of the Jewish inhabitants of theHoly Land some 3,000 years ago, the remaining remnant of Jews was scattered throughout Europeand Africa—later in the United States. Whenever allowed and wherever they went, Jews, while

maintaining their identity as Jews, also identified with the local culture and contributed to it out of allproportion to their numbers.

The Arabs, unfortunately, have no such motivation. Instead, they want to conquer the planet and turnthe world into a mirror image of THEIR culture of the Seventh Century. The problem is a much more

profound and perilous one than “How many Arabs are in the Israel Philharmonic?”

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Norman Lebrecht says:

December 13, 2012 at 9:07 pm

Martin, there are a million Arab citizens of the state of Israel. Quite a few are professional

musicians. Some have played in Barenboim’s E-W Diwan. None has been considered formembership in the IPO. That’s as bad as Vienna and women.

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Alex says:December 14, 2012 at 11:07 am

Norman, blaming the IPO for not hiring arab rooted musicians is not fair.To be hired by such an ensemble like the IPO, it’s a matter of qualification mainly in

western classical music which is the IPO’s musical home. I am a classical trainedprofessional orchestra musician in Germany , I am aware that I am not able to performf.e. arab, japanese, chinese or brazilian music on the same professional level. That’s the

point.There are musicians from arab countries who are well gifted and trained to play western

classical music but they will go to Europe or the States to make their way. The time willcome, when the first arab will join the IPO.

I hope, he/she will join the orchestra because of winning the audition procedure and notbecause of a quote.

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Andy says:December 17, 2012 at 7:10 pm

I played in the Israeli Shira youth orchestra in 1992 that was conducted by Lorin Maazeland Yoel Levi.

We made a run-out to the mostly Arab town near Nazareth. Some of our best playersperformed at the town hall around during one of their meetings. The townfolk talkedloudly over the performance and then we found ourselves in a political rally that

denounced Israel. My point is, we liberal-minded do-gooders just assume other culturesvalue our precious classical music and that everybody is not only dying to hear it but to

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play it with us. Guess what? They don’t.A black woman once admonished our US orchestra to me for not having enough blacks

in it. I was at a loss to convey to her the unbelievable hospitality any black person wouldget if they were to emerge past the screen in an audition as a finalist. We bend over

backwards to make it possible for them. I can’t fill my fingers naming black classicalplayers that I know personally. Likewise, the IPO would welcome any Arab who lovedclassical music enough to play it like they did. Let’s not be divisive towards the uniters,

we music makers.

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20. Matilda Lloyd says:December 13, 2012 at 9:14 pm

I nominate the Lord Mayor’s Jubilee Band as shown in the picture as the best orchestra of 2012!

These 40 young brass players from all areas of London and beyond braved the cold,wind and rain toplay for the Queen in the Diamond Jubilee Pageant and didn’t even get a mention on the TV – hence

them being named “unsung heroes” by the Telegraph later on in the week!

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Norman Lebrecht says:December 13, 2012 at 9:17 pm

But not the LPO, who were also on the flotilla?

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Matilda Lloyd says:

December 13, 2012 at 9:32 pm

The LPO are professional musicians who deal with situations and music like that all thetime, whereas these 40 young musicians had an age range of 10 – 18 and this was

something completely new to them! They played fantastically and absolutely pulled it off,which makes their success so much greater than that of the LPO. The Band only had 2

rehearsal prior to the pageant and they had never played the music before, whereas theLPO musicians had all played their programme countless times before in their career.

Please consider this and recognise the talent and enthusiasm of the youngsters!

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Zak Eastop says:

December 13, 2012 at 9:36 pm

No as they were covered, and in a heated barge. Infact I would say they were basically

playing indoors.

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21. Zak Eastop says:December 13, 2012 at 9:35 pm

I have to say the Mayor of London’s Brass Band (pictured) should win the award for best orchestraas they, heroically, played for hours on the cold, rainy Thames for absolutely NO TV recognition.

FOR FREE. Unlike every other orchestra on the list. Somehow they also managed to sound worldclass, despite being rocked around all over the place AND having to play on stone cold instruments forhours.

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22. christopher wheatleu says:

December 13, 2012 at 9:36 pm

I nominate the Lord Mayor’s Jubilee Band as shown in the picture as the best orchestra of 2012!

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23. Martin Bookspan says:December 13, 2012 at 9:44 pm

don’t want to get into a long discussion, Norman, but there are Arab members of the Knesset, Israel’sgoverning body. And of the million or so Arab residents/citizens of Israel many are refugees, or their

descendents, escaping the inhumanity of their native Arab Lands.

In any of the surrounding Arab countries are there counterpart attempts at bringing together Arabs andIsraelis as Barenboim has done with his West-East Diwan Orchestra?

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Norman Lebrecht says:

December 14, 2012 at 10:00 am

The question is rhetorical, Martin. Of course, there aren’t. But there is no reason to play bythose standards.

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Martin Bookspan says:

December 14, 2012 at 12:38 pm

Rhetorical questions sometimes produce answers that reveal a truth more fundamental

than a “regular” question might elicit

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Norman Lebrecht says:

December 14, 2012 at 12:40 pm

Such is the nature of rhetoric.

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MarK says:December 15, 2012 at 7:49 am

In this exchange, Norman’s answer (Dec. 14 at 10:00 am) to Martin’s“rhetorical” question revealed that the host of this blog does not see anythingwrong with setting the bar much higher for the IPO than for any of its

neighboring peers which in itself is not particularly unusual or uncommon,but singling that orchestra out by including it among the “worst” for not

clearing such lofty heights (which, by Norman’s own admission, plenty ofothers do not even attempt to approach, yet not a single one of them

receives that same seal of his disapproval) is a clear case of unfairness andpossibly hypocrisy too. As for the “guilty” verdict itself in the case of“proportional representation” against the IPO, i am in agreement with Alex’s

comment (Dec. 14 at 11:07 am).

24. Joe Fenning says:

December 13, 2012 at 9:45 pm

I would like to nominate the Lord Mayor’s Jubilee Band. A group of highly talented and dedicatedyoung musicians from London and the surrounding areas who played incredibly well while exposed to

the wind and rain on the Diamond Jubilee Pageant. Brilliant playing and wonderful people!

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25. Dawn Hannay says:December 13, 2012 at 10:07 pm

Best? The Minnesota Orchestra Musicians, for their strength in the face of unimaginable adversity andfor putting on great concerts despite being locked out!

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26. Daniel says:December 13, 2012 at 11:51 pm

Norman,

I’d like to nominate the London Mozart Players. It is a terrific orchestra and one of south London’s

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great sources of beauty and culture. Its community work is also outstanding.

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27. Dave K says:December 14, 2012 at 7:30 am

Those of the LPO who were not at Glyndebourne and, helped by a substantial quota of deps, werewarm and dry under cover on the flotilla? Er, no.

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28. Sheridan says:

December 15, 2012 at 9:12 pm

This has been a rough year for many Orchestras,Worldwide. The Arts is always one of the first

Disciplines attacked for cuts, reductions and closures.I like to thank an Orchestra that may not feature

On the World stage but here in Melbourne Australia,acts as a vital and prominent ambassador for great

Art and esteem. Orchestra Victoria (once the StateOrchestra of Victoria) has been performingOpera and Ballet scores for over 35 years.

Their unique sound can be heard on several OperaRecordings found on the Melba Records label.

A dedicated and tenacious group of musiciansWhom endured numerous ups and downs this

Year along, they have climbed to the top in my humbleOpinion. At times a hard gruelling schedule withDouble performances on Saturdays, the Orchestra

Always provides a high quality sound and a flairFor the dramatic. Performance partners with both

Australian Ballet and Opera Australia, this smallBut powerful ensemble, with some outstanding Woodwind

and lead string players creates a sound that fills theState Thearte night after night. A true staple ofThe high standards of music making found in Melbourne,

Orchestra Victoria brings both the dramatic and emotionalqualities to any production they are involved.

Thank you for their hard work and endless dedication.We hope they have a restful Summer break and will

Keep them in our thoughts and prayers for their uncertain future.

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29. Alice Gould Butts says:

December 17, 2012 at 9:39 pm

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CLEVELAND Orchestra is the best! In Vienna people are lined up around the block to hear the best!

No comment on the worst, as hoping for enlightenment…

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30. Amy Miller says:December 18, 2012 at 3:13 pm

BEST: LA Phil

WORST: Minnesota

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31. Sasha Mäkilä says:December 18, 2012 at 3:40 pm

Best: ChicagoWorst: Johannesburg (sorry)

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32. OAyuso says:December 19, 2012 at 5:03 pm

Best: Orquesta de Extremadura Survived against impossible odds in remote part of Spain. Yes, I’mfrom Extremadura. Extremadura is the poorest region in Spain and it’s important to us having anOrchestra. It’s important for music students, and for children… There’s some work to do, anyway,

but its survival shows us that little things, sometimes are big things.

Sorry for my English. I’m still studying this wonderful language…

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Fran says:December 19, 2012 at 7:57 pm

Agree on Extremadura! What a remarkable, inspiring orchestra! You all showed the world whatdetermination and a smart campaign can accomplish! Bravi!

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Jose Miguel says:

December 20, 2012 at 6:43 pm

Best orchestra Extremadura, I think The sabe.

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33. Don Th. Jaeger says:December 19, 2012 at 5:05 pm

Best Orchestra today – Los Angeles Philharmonic. Not only is it great player by player, but the hall is

unvelievalbe, Dudamel terrific, and they have built an enthusiasm factor for just everything they dowhich is always in evidence! Bravo to Los Angeles!

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34. Alex says:December 19, 2012 at 7:32 pm

I heard Cleveland Symphony in their amazing hall this autumn.. they are wonderful, but DavidRobertson in StLouis is doing great things w/ new music.. also, Springfield MO symphony is really

fun…

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35. Leila says:December 19, 2012 at 9:01 pm

Orquesta de Extremadura is the best. It is amazing, the musics are wonderful.

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36. Joyce Huyett Turner says:

December 19, 2012 at 10:12 pm

LA Phil is the best.

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37. Janey says:December 20, 2012 at 9:13 am

Best: ChicagoWorst: Minnesota

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Robert Fitzpatrick says:December 20, 2012 at 9:57 am

Agreed.

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38. GAb says:December 20, 2012 at 9:19 am

best SBSO (by far) for their musicianship, their dedication, their generosity, their flexibility, their groove(yes a 150 piece orchestra that can groove like a salsa band!) and all what they represent !!! ask LAPhil!

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39. Stephen North says:

December 20, 2012 at 10:07 am

Best: BBC Philharmonic – most beautiful Bruckner I’ve ever heard, astonishing range of activities(Proms to Pet Shop Boys) dedicated and hard working for too little recognition.

Worst: Minnesota

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40. skaseva00 says:December 20, 2012 at 12:41 pm

Best: Orquesta de Extremadura. Survived on 31th of july (was the last day for save it), and now a new

musical project, a new season, new audition for player… let’s go on!

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41. Balaguet says:December 20, 2012 at 1:00 pm

Best: Orquesta de Extremadura. Survived on 31th of july (was the last day for save it), and now a new

musical project, a new season, new audition for player… let’s go on!

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42. Carmel Sayago says:December 20, 2012 at 1:10 pm

Voto por la Orquesta de Extremadura que ha luchado con todas sus fuerzas y medios para sobreviviry gracias a ello sigue existiendo y haciendo una maravillosa música.

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43. Ro says:December 20, 2012 at 1:12 pm

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Best orchesta: Orquesta de Extremadura

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44. Emma says:December 20, 2012 at 1:13 pm

Best orchesta: Extremadura

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45. Merche says:

December 20, 2012 at 1:14 pm

Best orchesta: Extremadura

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46. Matteo Pagliari says:December 20, 2012 at 1:25 pm

Best orchestra: Orquestra de Extremadura. Great musicians, great discipline, great enthusiams. greatensemble.

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47. Emilia Crisóstomo says:December 20, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Mi voto por la ORQUESTA DE EXTREMADURA. Su lucha, ha sido una lucha titánica,enfrentándose a todas las dificultades para salir adelante y sobrevivir.

Solo los que estamos aquí, en este pequeño rincón del mundo, sabemos lo que significa mantener estaorquesta. Antes, nunca tuvimos nada parecido.

Gracias a ella, la música va llegando a todos los rincones de nuestra olvidada regiónHemos aprendido con ella que la música no es un lujo, sino una necesidad.Es una gran orquesta y se merecen este premio.

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48. Miguel Angel Muñoz says:

December 20, 2012 at 1:52 pm

Best orchesta: Orquesta de Extremadura

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49. amalia ogando says:

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December 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm

best orchestra: orquesta de extremadura. Indeed.

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50. Loreto says:December 20, 2012 at 2:33 pm

Best Orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura

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51. Pablo says:

December 20, 2012 at 2:41 pm

Best orchestra: Orquesta de extremadura. Im a young violinist and it’s very sad to see how thegovernment wants to destroy our culture. I support all the musicians of this orchestra, the are doing thebest!

I would like to say thank to Mr LEBRECHT for remember this little orchestra. This is very important

for us

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52. Mª José says:December 20, 2012 at 2:45 pm

Best Orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura

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53. Federico says:December 20, 2012 at 2:46 pm

Best Orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura

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54. Esteve says:December 20, 2012 at 2:47 pm

Best Orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura

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55. Ventura says:

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December 20, 2012 at 2:47 pm

Best Orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura

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56. María B says:December 20, 2012 at 2:57 pm

Best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura.

Culture is a right for all. Under this motto, the OEX, has struggled under extreme conditions thatchallenged its dissolution. They had believe it necessary to make our society aware that our orchestrais an indispensable instrument for the advancement of classical music in this region (Extremadura).Since it was founded, it has also helped forming numerous young musicians through its Youth

Orchestra program, the Orquesta Joven de Extremadura. And definitely, our orchestra has become areference wherever the culture of Extremadura is mentioned in this country. Fortunately, we still haveamong us.http://apoyoalaoex.wordpress.com/

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57. Raquel Rodríguez Tejada says:December 20, 2012 at 2:59 pm

Mi voto por la Orquesta de Extremadura. En una ciudad pequeña como la nuestra su actividad esinsustituible. Además de su calidad como músicos hay que añadir el beneficio que hacen con sus

conciertos, tanto para adultos como los que hacen para niños, con su programa de “Música en familia”y “Conciertos didácticos”. Mis alumnos de Educación Infantil han disfrutado de ellos y ha sido unaliciente para acercarse a la música clásica y ser “melómanos” incondicionales. La orquesta, con todaslas trabas que ha tenido por parte de la clase política, se merece todo el apoyo del mundo !

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58. Nurhan Arman says:December 20, 2012 at 3:05 pm

Best orchesta: Orquesta de Extremadura for surviving the cutsWorst: Minneapolis for the lockout.

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59. R. Barrera says:December 20, 2012 at 3:13 pm

Of course, Best Orchestra: OEX Orquesta de EXTREMADURA

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60. F Cuéllar says:December 20, 2012 at 3:30 pm

Best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura.

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61. Paco Ferri says:December 20, 2012 at 4:25 pm

Shall we vote through comments?

If so: My vote for Best Orchestra must go to: Orquesta de Extremadura.

Through their fight and struggle they are doing more for art in this times than any other other orquestra.

I do not have the courage to vote for the worst one.

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62. Just an opinion says:

December 20, 2012 at 4:45 pm

Looks like a lot of spamming going on here by one person using multiple nicksNorman, maybe you should check the IPs before counting the results.

Anyway:Best orchestra with excellent creative marketing, fair treatment of musicians, excellent playing and

surely a bright future: Berlin PhilharmonicBeeing up there at the top and still working hard to improve . That’s an impressing attitude.

Worst orchestra with terrible recent developments and sad future ahead : Malaysian Philharmonic.

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63. F, Soez says:

December 20, 2012 at 4:47 pm

My vote:best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura.worst orchestra: Israel Phil.

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64. Elena Barroso says:December 20, 2012 at 4:55 pm

Best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura.

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65. Philip Lingard says:December 20, 2012 at 5:33 pm

Best- Detroit for showing a way forwards in terrible circumstances

Worst- OSR for showing the way backwards in excellent circumstances

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66. Parejo says:December 20, 2012 at 5:47 pm

My vote for Extremadura Orchestra of course.

We will continue fighting for not extinguishing the flame of music in Extremadura.

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67. RODRIGO says:December 20, 2012 at 5:55 pm

Best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura.

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68. Varela says:December 20, 2012 at 6:05 pm

best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura

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69. jorge says:December 20, 2012 at 6:09 pm

“Best Orchestra:Orquesta de Extremadura”

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70. tania ramos morado says:

December 20, 2012 at 6:15 pm

for me the best orchestra is “Orquesta de Extremadura”

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71. Sara says:

December 20, 2012 at 6:32 pm

The best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura!

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72. Pilar Sánchez says:December 20, 2012 at 6:32 pm

for me the best orchestra is “Orquesta de Extremadura”

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73. miguela rodriguez palomo says:December 20, 2012 at 6:39 pm

Mi voto es para la Orquesta de Extremadura

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Ana Ventura Martinez says:December 20, 2012 at 9:36 pm

Mi voto es para la Orquesta de Extremadura

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Inmaculada arroyo rodriguez says:December 20, 2012 at 10:36 pm

best orchestra Orquesta de Extremadura

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74. Miriam says:

December 20, 2012 at 6:50 pm

For the musicians of the orchestra, the music and culture in Extremadura, the best is “Orquesta deExtremadura”.

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75. MarK says:

December 20, 2012 at 6:52 pm

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In my opinion, “Just an opinion” is basically correct.The worst, by far: Extremadura – for the most blatant manipulation of voting and total disrespecttoward this blog’s host and its readers. All comments nominating that orchestra for “the best” should

be deleted and the band itself disqualified from such consideration.

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Anon says:December 21, 2012 at 8:39 am

MarK, no one is manipulating the voting. These are the members of the Extremadura orchestra

and their community doing exactly what the blog requests them to do: they are voting. Orchestramembers and community supporters of every other ensemble on that list could do exactly thesame.

Unfortunately I don’t think this type of nomination means quite the same to players in orchestraslike LAPhil, who are making 150K + year as it does to those in Extremadura who’ve are

struggling to get by and who deserve recognition for surviving an exceptionally rough year.

Spain is in a very bad place right now. People are frightened, confused, out of work, out ofhope, out of everything. Suicides are at a record high – upstanding citizens who’ve losteverything are literally throwing themselves out of windows to their death as police come toforeclose on their homes.

Music is a tremendous comfort during these hard times. It’s no coincidence that reports ofextraordinary musical experiences are coming in from Spain right now: music is one of the fewpleasures remaining and orch. players play with this knowledge. The Valencia concertmasterwho reported his overwhelming concert experience in this blog last week. The Orchestra of theAge of Enlightenment on tour in Spain whose director was moved to tears. This is how

meaningful music is in a country in the depths of crisis.

Extremadura is the poorest region in Spain. This orchestra was up against unbelievable oddstrying to keep themselves in existence. They fought a strong, intelligent battle by any standards.And they won.

The news that their work has been recognized and that OEX has received this nomination hasjust appeared in the local media. This is a tremendous honour for the entire community. One canonly imagine how uplifting this news must be and how much pride they must feel for having beenable to keep their orchestra alive!

http://www.hoy.es/20121220/local/plasencia/candidata-premio-mejor-orquesta-

201212201244.html

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76. sara balaguer says:December 20, 2012 at 6:53 pm

I think the best orchestra is the Orquesta de Extremadura. your work is wonderful and essential for the

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defense of culture and music in Extremadura

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77. Noemi says:December 20, 2012 at 6:55 pm

My vote for the best orchestra is for “Orquesta de Extremadura”

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78. J.L. Almena says:December 20, 2012 at 6:55 pm

The best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura.Así suena la música en este paraíso.

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79. Santiago says:December 20, 2012 at 6:58 pm

Best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura.

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80. DrewLewis says:December 20, 2012 at 7:06 pm

Don’t these Estremadura claqeurs realise what idiots they look and what a disservice they are doing tothe orchestra?

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Anon says:December 21, 2012 at 6:46 am

Drew,

Mr. Lebrecht asked for readers’ votes. The assumption would be that whoever gets the mostvotes wins. This was evidently communicated to the orchestra and community and they are

doing exactly what he asked: they are voting.

.

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81. Celso says:December 20, 2012 at 7:14 pm

“best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura”.

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82. Inmaculada says:December 20, 2012 at 7:15 pm

“best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura”.

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83. CGO says:December 20, 2012 at 7:18 pm

“best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura”.

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84. C G. Ortega says:

December 20, 2012 at 7:18 pm

“best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura”.

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85. Rubén says:December 20, 2012 at 8:27 pm

The best orchestra is “Orquesta de Extremadura”

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86. carlos says:December 20, 2012 at 8:28 pm

Mi voto para la orquesta de extremadura

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87. Ana says:December 20, 2012 at 9:33 pm

Best Orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura

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88. Alicia Lázaro says:December 20, 2012 at 9:34 pm

The best: Orquesta de Extremadura.Bravo por ellos!

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89. Miguel Bustamante says:December 20, 2012 at 9:35 pm

Best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura. Because its heroic resistance and generosity.

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90. Jesús Clemente says:December 20, 2012 at 9:42 pm

My vote is for Oex, Orquesta de Extremadura. They deserve this important award.

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91. NERSES AVAKIMYAN says:

December 20, 2012 at 10:02 pm

For me, the best orchesta: Extremadura

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92. JESUS ACUÑA says:

December 20, 2012 at 10:05 pm

Show must go on!!! My vote it’s Orchesta Extremadura

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93. rosario guerra says:December 20, 2012 at 10:06 pm

best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura

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December 20, 2012 at 10:07 pm

Extremadura Orchesta is the best!!!

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95. Mónica Martins says:December 20, 2012 at 10:20 pm

ORQUESTRA DE EXTREMADURA!!!

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96. Elisabet says:December 20, 2012 at 10:34 pm

My vote for Best orchestra goes to “Orquesta de Extremadura”

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97. Rosa María Mejías says:

December 20, 2012 at 10:44 pm

Bestt orquestra – Orquesta de Extremadura

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98. Antonio says:December 20, 2012 at 10:44 pm

Best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura

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99. Eva says:December 20, 2012 at 10:52 pm

Best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura.

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100. Carmen pineda says:December 20, 2012 at 10:53 pm

Best orchestra: Orquesta de Extremadura

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101. Susana says:December 20, 2012 at 10:54 pm

Since I can remember, all I wanted to do in life is play in a professional orchestra. When the orchestraalmost disappeared I felt my dream was going away… You can’t imagine how glad I am that finally it

didn’t happen. Then, of course, my vote is for Orquesta de Extremadura!

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102. Roberto Maqueda says:December 20, 2012 at 10:58 pm

My vote is for Extremadura Symphony Orchestra.

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103. Diana says:December 20, 2012 at 11:04 pm

BEST: Extremadura Symphony Orchestra

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104. Daniel Cam says:December 21, 2012 at 6:47 am

The Orquesta de Extremadura is the best!! Good job.

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105. Angel Sanchez says:

December 21, 2012 at 8:26 am

Por su lucha contra la crisis y su buena musica. Son unos excelentes profesionales

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106. Marta says:December 21, 2012 at 11:15 am

La Orquesta de Extremadura, por su trabajo en equipo, por su profesionalidad, por no hundirsecuando todo va mal, y porque nadie más que ellos se lo merecen.

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