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Ancient Greek Astronomy: The Distance to the Moon and the Sun Denis Erkal

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Ancient Greek Astronomy: The Distance to the Moon and the Sun

Denis Erkal

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Astronomy Today • Huge Ground-Based Telescopes

Very Large Telescope (VLT)

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Astronomy Today • Telescopes in Space

Hubble Space Telescope

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Astronomy 2500 Years Ago

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Progression of Ideas

• 550 BC – First mention of eclipse (Thales)

• 530 BC – Planets mentioned (Anaximenes)

• 510 BC – East to west motion of stars (Pythagoras)

• 450 BC – Moon reflects light from sun, first correct explanation of eclipse (Anaxagoras)

• 400 BC – Circular orbits for planets around Earth (Pythagoreans)

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Aristarchus of Samos 310 BC – 230 BC

“On the Size and Distances of the Sun and Moon”

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87 o

1/cos(87 ) = 19.1 o

D D s m = 19.1

D s

D m

D D s m = 389 Correct Value:

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After several pages of geometry…

18D < D < 20D s m m

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23.82R > D > 14.25 R m e e

D = 20.72 R m e

D m

R e

D = 60.3 R m e Correct Value:

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Year Distance to Moon

Distance to Sun

Today 60.3 Re 389 Dm

Aristarchus ~250 BC 19 Re 20 Dm

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Hipparchus of Nicaea 190 BC – 120 BC

“On Sizes and Distances”

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Total Eclipse

Partial Eclipse

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Year Distance to Moon

Distance to Sun

Today 60.3 Re 389 Dm

Aristarchus ~250 BC 19 Re 20 Dm

Hipparchus ~140 BC 68 Re 37 Dm

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Claudius Ptolemy 90 AD – 168 AD

“Almagest”

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Parallax

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Year Distance to Moon

Distance to Sun

Today 60.3 Re 389 Dm

Aristarchus ~250 BC 19 Re 20 Dm

Hipparchus ~140 BC 68 Re 37 Dm

Ptolemy 150 AD 59 Re 21 Dm

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Giovanni Domenico Cassini 1625-1712 AD

Jean Richer 1630-1696 AD

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Parallax

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Year Distance to Moon

Distance to Sun

Today 60.3 Re 389 Dm

Aristarchus ~250 BC 19 Re 20 Dm

Hipparchus ~140 BC 68 Re 37 Dm

Ptolemy 150 AD 59 Re 21 Dm

Cassini and Richer

1670 AD 364 Dm

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Year Distance to Moon

Distance to Sun

Today 60.3 Re 389 Dm

Aristarchus ~250 BC 19 Re 20 Dm

Hipparchus ~140 BC 68 Re 37 Dm

Ptolemy 150 AD 59 Re 21 Dm

Cassini and Richer

1670 AD 364 Dm

Me 2011 AD 62 Re 40 Dm

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Year Distance to Moon

Distance to Sun

Today 60.3 Re 389 Dm

Aristarchus ~250 BC 19 Re 20 Dm

Hipparchus ~140 BC 68 Re 37 Dm

Ptolemy 150 AD 59 Re 21 Dm

Cassini and Richer

1670 AD 364 Dm

Me 2011 AD 62 Re 40 Dm

You ?

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Other Ancient Discoveries

• Earth orbits the sun: Aristarchus ~250 BC

• Size of the earth: Eratosthenes ~200 BC

• Precession of earth’s axis: Hipparchus ~130 BC

• Moon distance variation: Ptolemy ~150 AD

• Evidence for solar distance variation: Ptolemy ~150 AD

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Same techniques in use today

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Gaia Satellite

Gaia will determine the position of 1 billion stars