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ANNEXURE 4. (See Paragraphs 2 and 4.)

L ist of W itnesses w ho T e n d ered Oral E v id e n c e .

The undermentioned persons tendered oral evidence before the Commission, in the order in which their names appear and on the dates and at the places set opposite their names. r

The evidence is typewritten, double line spacing, on foolscap size paper, the last page of which is numbered 9224. This evidence was heard at one hundred and sixteen publio sessions.

1930.

JtfLY.Tuesday

A u g u s t .Friday

Tuesday

Thursday

Friday

Saturday 9

Tub* day 12 Wednesday 13

Friday 15

Monday 18

Wednesday 20

Thursday 21 f > •Friday 22 Middelburg

Saturday 23 »* •

Wednesday 27

Thursday 28

SxmntBKB. Tuesday . 16

Wednesday 17

Potgietersrust...

Louis Tri chardt

»•

Messina..............Pietersburg........

Duivelskloof........................Medingen Mission Station Modjadje’s Tribal Head

quarters.Pietersburg....................... .

Barberton............................

Nelspruit..

Lydenburg.

Rasten burg.

Newoastle.

Dundee.

F. W. Neethling. A. Gilbertson.

Chiefs Khutama and Sinthumula. Peter Mbau and others. Colonel J. C. V. Lyle.

Namarangone and Mashapa. Takalane. Shipango. Piet Boy. Nentabane. Kik Rasangane. Rev. J. W. Daneel. Chas. R. MacGregor.

A. B. Emery. ___J. F. Kirsten. F. C. Menne. D. N. During and

P. B. N. Elffers. Dr. P. A. Green. Chiefs repre­sented by Thomas Moloto, Maseti Ramekgopa. Juel Matlata, Nkupu Mareli, Chief Mashashane.

J. F. van Rensburg.Rev. F. L. Reuter.Numeri Modjadje.

Bishop J. L. Fuller. J. M. Richards. H. A. Visser J. H. le Roux, D. le Roux, and C. Hofmeyr. H.

Chiefs Masoi and Mdouli.Lobase, Solomon Ngwandi, Johannes Temba, and

Rev. Peter John Mti. Rev. G. Wickstrom. Fung- wane, Mapikelela Nkosi, Mas hi la Matebula. and Gwegwe Mazibuko. E. T. E. Andrews. Dr. J. H. Sypkens. W. P. G. Macpherson.

S. C. Brown. L. J. Hall. Ephraim Zwane, Daniel Bafelwa Mahlabi, Atwell Nqolase, and Stephen Mtetwa.

W. A. Preller. Onesimus Phokanoka, Stephen Nteeo, Dirk Kana, Bernard Serote, Isaac Twala, Simon Moganedi, Amos Mtembe, and David Mokwena.

Major D. R. Hunt. Headman Frank Maseromole, Chief Kgolokoe, Elias Chake, Edward Motubatsi, Chief Manok, Kgobolale Schukumi, Edward Pasha, and Petrus Masangu. E. de Souza, M.P., and H. Neethling.

M. J. van Rensburg. Rev. G.T. F. Schwellnus.J- G. Yates. N. L. B. van Veen (Town Clerk).

H. J. Walters. .J. P. McLees and V. P. Rose (Town Councillors). Dr. J. A. Levitt (M.H.O.).

Chief Sekoati. Chief Tsekelekoko. Chiefs Seth Ram am ha and Jonas Mablangu. Headman Isaac Magape. Daniel Makomezulu, Jonah Khomo, and Paul Sefoka. P. J. Bosman and, J. J. Williams (Fanners’ Association).

Rev. J. C. E. Penzhorn. Rev. G. P. Stegmann..T. A. Cheere Emmett.

Mutle Mokhatle, and Chiefs Herman Selon, Toha. Mamogale, Filius Mogale, Solomon Mabi, Bethuel Ramokoka, Ofense Pilane, Z. Shongoane, Botman Ntuane, Kalaii Sedumedi, Solomon Moshome, and. Sefanyetso Sefanvetso ; and Shadrach Zibi.

0 . J. T. Schumann, J. N. Crook, Johs. van Schalkwyk, and H. G. Forsdick (Town CounoiUors). J. Gries- sel. Angus Wood. H. H. Hudson. Philemon Yeni, Petrus Nene, Thompson Tembe, and Chas. Barlen Dlamini. Rev. W. J. Wentzel.

J. A. Graham, A. N. Stcenkamp, F. Weasels, P. R. Vermaak, F. Heiberg, and Gonlon Smith, for Farmers’ Associations. W. Stein. J. J. Kemp and D. J. Uys. I. W. de Jager. Benjamin Moses Kunene, Philip Mtembu, and Rev. Enoch A. Mahamba. Town Councillors Oldaore, Hardy, and McKenzie.

24G

Date. Witnesses.

Thursday 18 Friday 19

Saturday 20

Vryheid.

Monday 22 Nongoma.............................Wednesday 24 ...........................Thursday 25 Mtubatuba..........................Friday 26 Empangtni..........................

Monday 29 Melmoth..............................

Tuesday 30 Eshowe................................

Oc t o b e rThursday

Friday 3Tuesday 7 Wednesday 8

Thursday 9

Stanger...............

Verulam.............Port Shepstone. Harding..............

Ixopo.

Friday

Monday

Tuesday 14

Wednesday 15

Wednesday 29

Bulwer...

Estcourt.

Ladysmith.

Matatiele.

Thursday 30

Friday 31 Mount Flecther..................

N o v e m b e r .Saturday 1

Monday 3 Matatiele.............................Tuesday 4 Kokstad...............................

Wednesday 5

Thursday 6 Emfundisweni MissionStation.

Friday 7 Flagstaff..............................

Monday 10 Port St. Johns...................

Tuesdav 11Wednesday 12

Thursday 13

Archdeacon A. W. Lee.Dr. G. S. v. d. Merwe, J. C. Pretorius, and J. Werndle,

representing Town Council. R. H. Smith. B. E. Rabe, W. Birkenstock, J. J. Botha, L. H. Schulzc, and C. H. A. Lilje. Colonel W. E. Peachey. J. J. Birkenstock.

P. G. Armstrong. Chief Bikelabani. W. W. Ndlovu.D. Ntyangase. Acting Chief M. Zondo. Native witnesses. Dr. M. Kuper-Cooper. W. J. Bennetts and R. C. Menne (Farmers’ Association). W. W. Ndlovu (contd.). M. L. E. Mailing, Solomon Dennis Mashaba, Amoni Kubeka, Samuel Zulu, and Z. B. Kambule.

Dr. W. H. Haupt. Rev. L. E. Oscroft. C. F. Adams. Chief Mgixo. Shiyabanye Mncwango, Mkwintyi, and

Timoti Kumalo.C. A. Wheelwright, C.M.G.G. W. Higgs. Chief Msiyana Mtembu. Zululand

Farmers’ Union. E. Coppinger.H. T. James. Rev. T. E. Hallendorff. E. N. Braat-

vedt. Sir Charles Saunders, K.C.M.G. Chief M. Biyela, Nikolase Mpungose, and Mose Ntuli.

Meshach Mkize and Victor Ngcamu. F. Rodsetb. Rev. W. H Hallowes.

G. H. Hulett. N. H. George. Rev. T. M. Leisegang. Chief Josiah Mqwebu and others.

R. F. Lake. Chiefs Luzulane and Gibizwe Ndlovu. Dr. H. G. Phibben. R. D. Lyle. H. C. A. Garrett.H. Sangmeistcr. W. A. Hutchinson and others

(Farmers’ Association). F. L. Ferguson and J. Johnson (Farmers’ Association). R. Mayne.

H. B. Wallace. C. E. Hancock (Farmers’ Associa­tion). G. E. Francis. Rev. A. E. Kumalo and Chief Mdibaniso Dlamini. Paulus Conco and Japhet Mtembu.

Chief Maqeleni Dlamini and others. L. C. French.H. K. Franz.

W. Elliott, F. C. Robinson, and Colonel D. W. Mackay (Farmers’ Association). F. C. Carless and P. H. Despard (Farmers’ Association). W. H. Pitcher and Dr. J. P. Odendaal (representing Town Council).

Major C. L. R. Harries. Rev. Nathaniel Pamla, Chiefs Walter Kumalo, Theophilus Ntombela, Mbekwa Shabalala, Bevu Zondi, Stini Nkosi, Mbuyisazwe Hadebe, and Bande Sitole. Frank Sikosana.

B. H. Currin and J. Corrigall (representing Town Council). C. W. Wright (Farmers’ Association). W. N. Shum and T. W. Holmes. A. W. Illing, J. H. Potgieter, and V. J. Bristowe (Farmers’ Association). Rev. K. A. Johnston. F. A. Stead.

J. Ward (Farmers’ and Traders’ Association).C. W. Gray, W. M. van Heerden, and J. J. Turn­bull (representing Town Council). Mordekai Baleni and other Native witnesses.

Mordekai Baleni and other Native witnesses (contd.). Chamber of Commerce. D. D. Nthoba and M. H. Madapuna.

Moses Leqela, W. P. Mlandu, W. W. Dana, and Rev. N. P. Makaluza. J. H. Keightiev and E. W. Nelson.E. T. Cundill.

W. W. Dana (contd.). Chief S. M. Lehana and S. Lesuthu.

D. D. Nthoba (contd.). W. M. Seymour.C. K. Scott. J. C. Ross. Rev. G. R. Veel. F. H.

Brownlee.F. H. Brownlee (contd.). L. D. Gilson, M.P., and

G. W. Young.Rev. S. Williams.

Rev. A. Schweiger. W. Cingo. W. F. Hunter.Dr. F. S. Drewe. A. R. Welsh. E. Zizi.

B. S. Ncabene, G. Jico, and F. Soxujwa. E. J. P. Almon. Commander Zaccheus Marsh, H. M. Nourse.

Bunga delegates.Bunga delegates (contd.). W. T. Welsh (Chief

Native Commissioner) and G. M. B. Whitfield (Secretary to General Council). Bunga delegates (contd.).

W. T. Welsh and G. M. Whitfield (corUd.). Bunga delegates (contd.).

♦

Date. Witnesses.

Friday 14

Monday 17

Tuesday 18

Wednesday 19

Thursday 20

Friday 21

■Saturday 22 Monday 24

1931.

J a k o a b y . Wednesday 14

Friday

Monday

Tuesday

16

19

20

Wednesday 21 Friday 23

Monday 26

Tuesday 27

Wednesday 28

F e b b c a b y . Tuesday 17

Thursday 19

Friday 20

Saturday 21 Monday 23

Tuesday 24

Thursday 26

Friday 27

Umtata (contd.).

Engcobo.......

Cofimvaba...

• 1Butterworth.

Aliwal North........

Burghersdorp.......

Queenstown...........

»» •••••<Lady Frere..........

Kingwilliamstown.

Kroons tad.

Rydal Mount.

Thaba ‘Nchu.

Bloemfontein.

»»

Kimberley...

Vryburg.........

Dr. M. B. Mahlangeni. Rev. J. J. Xaba. S. G. Butler and F. R. B, Thompson. Rev. W. F. K. Blohm. T. M. Makiwane.

A. O. B. Payne, M.P. Elisha Mda and Mackay Noah. Rev. A. A. Hoadley. G. K. Hemming. Rev. R. Mure. W. H. H. Green.

W. T. Brownlee (ex-Chief Magistrate), A. T. Wood, and L. P. Moore (representing Transkeian Terri­tories European Civic Association). W. T. Welsh (Chief Native Commissioner), R. D. H. Barry, and G. M. B. Whitfield (Secretary to General Council) (contd..).

W. T. Welsh, R. D. H. Barry, and G. M. B. Whitfield (contd.). E. C. Thompson and M. O. Sayer. J. W. D. Hughes. W. Meaker, M.P.C. Colonel W. H. C. Taylor. Chamber of Commerce. B. R. Simmons. T. Makiwane.

Rev. C. C. Harris. J. B. Clarke. W. J. Clarke, sen.A. Qunta. T. Poswayo. J. Guma and N. Kula.

Members of United Transkeian Territories General Council: Councillors S. S. Matoti, M. Mgudlwa, I. Mgudlwa; and J. Qongqo, Rev. W. Mpamba, and E. Mdolomba. R. Haigh. J. J. Yates.

L. W. Maaiza.H. Bikitsba, P. Lavisa, H. H. Bulube, S. Sopola,

Fred U. Soga, N. A. Mazwai, G. Mate, Rev. J. S. Mazwi, and S. Mvambo. W. E. Werner. B. J. R obs. J. Hay. R . Fyfe-King.

Dr. W. Stevenson (M.O.H.), A. W. Lessing. Dr.F. R. Luke. Rev. J. Masikinya. J. J. G. Carson.

D. H. J. Coetzee. D. Tsegare. P. J. J. van der Walt. E. W. Lowe.

C. M. Mallett. R. Jayiya and G. Sodidi. W. A. Landman. Native witnesses, representing Lessey- ton, Oxkraal, and Kamaston areas. #

Rev. C. K. Hodges. Archdeacon H. E. Rowley. A. C. Gay lard. R. H. Impey. Dr. J. Cranke (M.O.H.). Julius Mazwi and S. B. Matshikiza.

E. 8. Pugh. A. G. B. Rein.H. Ashworth and P. J. du Plessis. S. Nongxa,

P. Mzazi. H. Mangeu, W. Time, D. Bo to, Ch. V. Mhlonhlo. E. L. Harries and T. B. Smith.

Rev. A. Cardross Grant. G. D. Ross. H. J. Every.Major M. 0. Apthorp (Chief Native Commissioner).

G. S. Kama. D. D. T. Jabavu. C. Sigila. P. Nya- tana. R. Stamper, Chief J. Mrwebo, and E. Marambana. James Hedashe and Albert Tywakadi. C. Labase, S. Sonjica, S. Peteni, and Rev. V. Kwatsha. S. Mguyi.

Rev. R. H. W. Shepherd, A. Kerr, and P. Leomond.G. Njokweni. Rev. R. H. W. Shepherd, A. Kerr, and P. Leomond (conld.). A. M. Jabavu. W. F. Laurie. Major M. G. Apthorp (Chief Native Com­missioner) (contd.) and J. W. Ord.

Rev. W. V. Ranford. 0 . Wallpole. V. R. L. Ross. J. R. Brent. J. B. Crutse. H. K. Binda, J. A. Tlhapani, and T. K. W. Mote. J. Kokozella. Mrs. Khisa. J. W. Loubser. R. A. Sello and H. K. Binda. T. W. K. Mote.

A. L. Clark, Rev. J. J. Ross, sen. J. J. Ross, jun. Chief C. N. Mopeli, A. Mabbola, and Chief Silas K. Mota.

Dr. C. S. Moroko. W. Fenyang and S. Pula. Rev. F. E. Gilks. G. J. van der Riet and J. M. de Wet. Rev. M. D. 0 . Groenewald.

H. F. C. Kuschke.D. G. Nkwanazi. W. R. Clarke and six others.

Abram Fischer. Simon Elias. Rev. J. G. Strydom.

J. R. Cooper. Bishop Carey. T. M. Mapikela and B. Mpolongwana. Amos Matlhave. Dr. J. Lobius. M. H. Raath.

Rev. G. Kuhn. Sol. Plaatje. E. W. Mowbray. W. I. Macdonald. Z. R. Mahabane. J. S. Li- khing. D. Modiakotia and H. Maaiza. T. P. Klaaate.

C. St. Quentin. C. E. Stewart. H. D. Grace, T. Macguire, and P. Osborne. P. F. Hugo, H. J. Saunders, and G. I. Combrink. Chief Thibogang Letlhogile, G. Mahma, and K. Mocwaie. Rev. F. W. A. Peasley. Dr. F. A. J. Brodziak.

Maroii. Thursday 19

23 Grahamstown.

Tuesday 24

Wednesday 25

Thursday 26

Friday 27

A p b il .Wednesday 1

Thursday 2

Saturday 4

Tuesday 7

Wednesday 8

Thursday 9

Friday 10

Thursday 23Friday 24Saturday 25

Monday 27

Tuesday 28

Wednesday 29

M a y. Monday.. . . 4 Tuesday 5

Wednesday 6

Thursday 7

Monday 11

Tuesday 12

Port Elizabeth.

Durban.

Pietermaritzburg..

Capetown.

J ohannesburg.

J-- Lloyd. R. H. Godlo. Clements Kadalie and Bennett Ncwana.

Clements Kadalie and Bennett Ncwana (contd.) Captain G. L. Lister. Dr. W. B. Rubusana. J. B. Cummins.

Dr. F. A. Saunders. H. Broome. Rev. A. Mazwai.H. Rushmere. D. Ganca, N. Calata, E. M. Vambo, and D. R. Moyake. Dr. J. E. Duerden. Rev.G. H. H. Jacques. Dr. E. M. Britten. Mrs. O. C. Mylne. Dr. G. F. Heathcote.

Dr. D. L. Ferguson. S. C. Bain and J. T. Burnett.H. A. Schultz and S. Lallo. H. J. Harrawav and R. W. Freger. H. Relton. L. S. v. d. Walt.

c - K Scheepcrs. J. M. Dippa. B. J. Blom. F. H. M. Zwide. J. P. McNamee. H. Mbelle. Chief Njokweni.

J. W. Tshangana. Rev. C. D. Kwatsha. C.' Ma- gxaka. A. F. Pendla.

A. C. van Renen. A. F. Pendla (contd.). D. Anderson, H. C. W. Newell. P. Adonise, and t>. Vusam. E. J. Kama. Zadok Amani. W. J. Mama. A. C. van Renen (contd.).

Dr. G. A. Park Ross (Assistant Medical Officer of Healtfc Union). H. C. Lugg. Acting Chiefs Maqiyana and Gebeleweni.

Natal Sugar Millers' Association, Rev. J. L. Dube.£ . A\TErlandfl°n. A. J. Lutuli and S. Mkulisi. Miss Violet S. Makanya.

Miss Violet S. Makanya (amid.). Rev. H. Cotton, « Pallner- Mr®- I- Sililo, A. Z. Mazinei,M. Webb, S. Mkulisi, and Dennis J. Shepstone.

™ autret- M™- Mabel Palmer (contd.). iJ. R. 0. Thomas, A. P. Sibankulu, and A. S. Kumalo. Borough Council Representatives. Dur­ban Chambers of Commerce and Industries. Mariannhill Mission and Catholic African Union J. M. Ngcobo and D. L. D. Dopela. A. F. Matibela. S. A. F. Oellerman. D. Ntombela.

Chief Njengabantu Ngubane. Headman Lugubu Mbata. Rev. Isiah Shembe. Chief Solomon Zulu J. B. K. Farrer. R. J. Spiers.

L. H. H. Greene. Colonel F. E. Foxon and F. C. Pope-Ellis. W. M. Goodwin and E. T. Walker (Natal Municipal Association). D. McKinnon Mal­colm. E. Holden. Colonel A. Fawcus, Major W. Comrie, A. H. Cockburn, W. E. Antel, T. Hack- land (Farmers' Association). Chief S. G. E. Majozi. Sikweletu Nyongwana.

R eTV w 'P v ?obinson- R ‘ w - Stevens, A. E. Harwin J. McGibbon, Dr. W. J.-Wood (M.H.O.), represent’ JS* ? ,ty Counci1. Pietermaritzburg. M. Mtembu Chiefs Mguquka Mkize, Langalake, Stephen Mini, and Dirk Sioka. J. T. Gumede. Native Welfare Society.

Sir Clarkson H. Tredgold, Kt. Rev. Abner Mtimkulu.A. Z. Berman. G. C. Fecheyr.N. R. Veldsman. J. D. Ngojo. B. W. Mama. Sam

Hoho.Sam Hoho {cortid.) M. J. Adams. J. McOmbrimr

B. H. Harris. Rev. C. N. J. Savage. A. 0. Sut­ton.

W. Bnnton, G. P. Cook, Dr. T. S. Higgins (M.O.H ) on behalf on City Council, Capetown. L. de V* van Winsen.

Major Thomas and J. Preston. J. Peacock. J H Tandy.

Major H. S. Cooke (Director of Native Labour){contd-)- H' M- Taberer. H. Britten (Chief Magistrate).

H. M. Taberer (contd.). Dr. P. ka I. Seme H S Msimang. Samuel Tema, J. R. Rathebe, H Se’lbv Msimang (cotUd.)., I. B. S. Masole, R. V. Selooe Thema, and H. Dlomo.

S. S. Tema, S. Msimang, I. Masole, and H Dlomn (cmtd.). O. E. R. Lloyd and E. G VVoou“ y (representing Charlestown Town Board). Prof W. M. MacMillan.

Archd^con W. F Hill, Rev. S. Carter, and Missr> A V A ™ ,^ra8mua- A- J- Hoffman.Dr. A. J. Milne. G. Ballenden.

Wednesday 13 Friday 15

Saturday 16

Monday 18

TuesdayThursday

1921

Friday 22

J u k i .Wednesday 3

Thursday 4

Friday 6

Monday 8

Tuesday 9

Wednesday 10

ThursdayFriday

1112

Saturday 13

Witnesses.

Johannesburg (conld.).

Pretoria.

Johannesburg.

Prof. S. H. Frankel and Prof. Edgar H. Brookes. Alexandra Township Ratepayers Association (repre­

sented by E. P. M. Zulu and S. W. Meagar). Krugersdorp Native Advisory Board, represented by J. w. Monogane. Native Advisory Board, Western Native Township, represented by S. Ntoba. Springs. Native Advisory Board, represented L. Moteane and H. Mogafe. R. H. Selope Thema.

Prof. S. H. Frankel and Prof. Edgar H. Brookes (conld.).

H- V- Tyamzashe and T. Mbeki. A. Friedheim. £>. K. Lepere and G. W. Crowe. Miss M. L. Hodg­son. 6

W. G. Ballinger (contd.). A. W. G. Champion. Patrick Hayes. A. \V. G. Champion (contd.). G.

Grimmer and Mrs. L. 51. Campbell. G. Grimmer and Mrs. L. M. Campbell (conld.) and S. W. Meager (conld.). and J. K. Morupe.

Johannesburg Municipal Native Affairs Department (G. Ballenden (conld.) Dr. A. B. Xuma.

R. W, Thornton (Director of Native Agriculture, Union). Rev. J. W. Alcock.

Dr. C. H. Neveling. S. P. Metseke and C. B.Mbofekwa. E. J. Motau.

Prof. G. P. Lestrade. Shadrach Zibi and Isaiah Bud Mb’elle.

M. G. Nicholson, Dr. G. D. Laing (M.O.H.) and P. C. Lowe, representing City Council, Pretoria. Rose-Innes Chake. F. Bruyn, I. B. Moroe, E. H. Chake, and P. Ramutle.

Prof. G. P. Lestrade (conld.). J. B. Wolmarans andH. M. Slade. J. A. Karvie.

J- C. Yates (conld.). R. W. Thornton (conld.).F. W. B. van der Riet.

J. D. Rheinallt Jones.J. D. Rheinallt Jones (conld.). Transvaal Chamber

of Mines and Nativo Recruting Corporation, represented by F. G. A. Roberts, C. L. Butlin,H. Mayer, A. J. Limebeer, and J. B. Gedye.

Mrs. Justine Mdaka, Mrs Margaret Lupuzi, Mrs. Sophia Koerkop, Mrs. Rachel E. Masole, Mrs. Margaret Gwexe, and Mrs. Maria Kondile, and Ngqozi and James Zini. Prof. R. F. A. Hoernle and Mrs. A. W. Hoernle. M. M. Padi.

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NATIVE ECONOMIC COMMISSION 1930-1932, Evidence and Memoranda

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