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From: Sent: To: Cc: Alun Dawson <[email protected]> 04 March 2013 15:44 Bruce Sounes HALE David Subject: Attachments: RE: Grenfell Tower Regeneration Project- Value Engineering Grenfell Tower Regeneration Project- BREEAM Value Engineering Bruce To clarify it is Appleyards who are meeting with the TMO- we are also trying to arrange for Max Ford ham to attend (in part) at the TMO's request. The reason for not copying in the other members of the Design Team is because I did not deem it necessary as they had already responded directly in terms of VE, and saw little point in cluttering up their in box- as per my email below, you are/were at liberty to co-ordinate with them as you see fit. On that note, can you please speak to Constantine at Syntegra re: the attached .... to see if you can get some feedback before my meeting with the TMO. Many thanks for your further comments. Regards Alun Alun Dawson BSc (Hons) MCIOB MAPM Associate Director APPLEVAR.DS High Holborn House 52-54 Hirh Holborn London WC1V 6RL United Kingdom .......... Tel : Mob : • www.appleyards.co.uk Appleyards: now part of Artelia International: same team, enhanced expertise This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The intern et can not guarantee the integrity of this message. ARTELIA (and its subsidiaries) shall (will) not therefore be liable for the message if modified. Appleyards Limited: Registered No. 3935522 England. Vat Reg. No. 232 2357 94 Dobson White Boulcott Limited trading as Appleyards: Registered No. 5086063 England. Vat Reg. No. 539 0912 36 Registered Office: Tubs Hill House, London Road, Sevenoaks, Kent, TN13 1 BL From: Bruce Sounes [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 04 March 2013 15:34 To: Alun Dawson Cc: [email protected]; Stefano Strazzullo; David Hale; [email protected]; Grenfell Subject: RE: Grenfell Tower Regeneration Project- Value Engineering Alun, Do you mean Appleyards are meeting with the TMO, or the team more generally? ART00000919 _ 0001 ART00000919/1

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From: Sent: To: Cc:

Alun Dawson <[email protected]> 04 March 2013 15:44 Bruce Sounes HALE David

Subject: Attachments:

RE: Grenfell Tower Regeneration Project- Value Engineering Grenfell Tower Regeneration Project- BREEAM Value Engineering

Bruce

To clarify it is Appleyards who are meeting with the TMO- we are also trying to arrange for Max Ford ham to attend (in part) at the TMO's request.

The reason for not copying in the other members of the Design Team is because I did not deem it necessary as they had already responded directly in terms of VE, and saw little point in cluttering up their in box- as per my email below, you are/were at liberty to co-ordinate with them as you see fit.

On that note, can you please speak to Constantine at Syntegra re: the attached .... to see if you can get some feedback before my meeting with the TMO.

Many thanks for your further comments.

Regards

Alun

Alun Dawson BSc (Hons) MCIOB MAPM

Associate Director

APPLEVAR.DS High Holborn House • 52-54 Hirh Holborn • London • WC1V 6RL • United Kingdom .......... u~nwt Tel : • Mob: • www.appleyards.co.uk

Appleyards: now part of Artelia International: same team, enhanced expertise

This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The intern et can not guarantee the integrity of this message. ARTELIA (and its subsidiaries) shall (will) not therefore be liable for the message if modified.

Appleyards Limited: Registered No. 3935522 England. Vat Reg. No. 232 2357 94 Dobson White Boulcott Limited trading as Appleyards: Registered No. 5086063 England. Vat Reg. No. 539 0912 36 Registered Office: Tubs Hill House, London Road, Sevenoaks, Kent, TN13 1 BL

From: Bruce Sounes [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 04 March 2013 15:34 To: Alun Dawson Cc: [email protected]; Stefano Strazzullo; David Hale; [email protected]; Grenfell Subject: RE: Grenfell Tower Regeneration Project- Value Engineering

Alun,

Do you mean Appleyards are meeting with the TMO, or the team more generally?

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Is there a reason why you are not copying the design team in on emails?

I had a first pass through the figures you sent and Lead bitters have covered some of the previous suggestions. I

don't have more to add to the list you already have. Since your previous em ail I can offer the following comments:

• I think with the magnitude of overspend, the "VE" needs to be quite broad. We're happy to look at options

to reconfigure or reduce the spend on the podium levels. (See options in Stage C report.) This will need

client direction and instruction.

• Last week I discussed the feasibility of installing Combi boilers in all the flats with Max Fordham and we

prepared a sketch to show how the gas mains could be integrated in the overcladding. I learnt on Friday this

has already been rejected.

• There are numerous implications of changing the M& E. For instance reducing the U-value of the cladding

and omitting the insulation to the roof plant would need to be worked through. We have thus far not been

challenged by Planning on our sustainability credentials. We're not sure why but VE savings might result in

comments coming back from Planning.

• We have had CEP come in today to discuss the cheaper ACM cladding option and they will be forwarding

samples for possible presentation to Planning. From our conversation with CEP we feel there might be scope

to switch from zinc but it will require a bit more elaboration than the Leadbitter's figure allows. We note

that Lead bitter don't appear to have costed the zinc and have put in a budget figure only.

• An insulated render is an option for cladding the tower. lt is not clear from the schedule whether this is

cheaper than ACM. lt is less desirable from a maintenance and lifespan point of view.

• We are also looking at the Marley Natura as a cladding option.

• Tilt and turn windows would be acceptable from an aesthetic point of view. They are less effective for

ventilation than pivot. CEP offer Metal Tech or Schuco, slightly more expensive.

• The crown is a purely aesthetic. We think it looks great and transforms the appearance of the tower. A VE

option would be to reduce its height.

• The internal barrier to the lobby does not need to be glass- a balustrade and stainless wire mesh infill

would be more cost effective.

Regards

Bruce Sounes

For and on behalf of

STUDIO E LLP

Palace Wharf, Rainville Road, London W6 9HN T I F- I www.studioe.co.uk

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From: Alun Dawson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 04 March 2013 13:18 To: Bruce Sounes; Blaine Cagney; Adrian Jess Cc: David Hale; Chweechen Lim; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: Grenfell Tower Regeneration Project- Value Engineering

Bruce

We are meeting with the TMO on Thurs/Fri (tbc) an so really need your input on the below by end of tomorrow latest- can you please confirm you will be in a position to submit something to meet this timeframe, many thanks

Alun

Alun Dawson BSc (Hons) MCIOB MAPM

Associate Director

APPLEVAR.DS High Holborn House • 52-54 Hish Holborn • London • WC1V 6RL • United Kingdom ........ u.nUJ< Tel : • Mob: 1 • www.appleyards.co.uk

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From: Alun Dawson Sent: 26 February 2013 12:30 To: 'Bruce Sounes'; Blaine Cagney; Adrian Jess Cc: David Hale; Chweechen Lim; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: Grenfell Tower Regeneration Project- Value Engineering

Bruce

You will have seen all our cost plans as they are in the Stage C & D Reports respectively, but please see the attached which gives you a more detailed reconciliation of the figures and differences between our figures and Lead bitters.

We have also asked MF and Curtins to undertake a similar exercise on the m&e installation and structure respectively, but do of course feel free to liaise with them as necessary.

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Most of your list seems to be omissions or downgrading the spec as opposed to VE- can you produce a full schedule

of target items and publish early next week with a view to meeting with the TMO mid-week to run through (please

let us know your availability).

Regards

Alun

From: Bruce Sounes [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 26 February 2013 11:48 To: Alun Dawson; Blaine Cagney; Adrian Jess Cc: David Hale; Chweechen Lim; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: Grenfell Tower Regeneration Project- Value Engineering

Alun,

lt is not really possible to undertake a radical re-think without sight of the figures, a discussion with the client, and

the involvement with the Services Engineer who is not copied into your email. Is the M&E not under review as well?

The obvious targets for savings are:

Omit Garages/Baseline/Undercroft work

Change Zinc cladding material to something cheaper. I think Planning will need a sweetener to swallow this,

perhaps copper, ceramic, terracotta or more glass at low level.

Scale back crown. This will be also be Planning sensitive

Change pivot windows for tilt and turn.

Omit flats at mezzanine level. Leave floor slabs as they are.

Defer work specified internally eg kitchen extracts, smoke exhaust, bathroom exhaust.

Would it be possible to forward your and Leadibitter's respective cost plans? We have not been party to any of the

discussions.

I am available anytime next week.

Regards

Bruce Sounes

For and on behalf of

STUDIO E LLP

Palace Wharf, Rainville Road. London W6 9HN T I F I www.studioe.co.uk

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ELECTRONIC INFORMATION TRANSFER DISCLAIMER

This email and any files transmitted with it are sent for and on behalf of Studio E and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. All attached files are copyright and may only be used for the purpose stated in the drawing status box. In the event that the files are altered in anytVay, it is a condition of use that the Studio E name and logo be removed from the modified file, unless prior written agreement has been obtained. Studio E will assume no responsibility for the accuracy, adequacy, and integrity of the files, and recommends that the files be thoroughly screened for viruses prior to installation. Opinions, conclusions and other information expressed in this message are not given or endorsed by Studio E LLP unless otherwise indicated by an authorised representative independent of this message.

From: Alun Dawson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 26 February 2013 11:00 To: Bruce Sounes; Blaine Cagney; Adrian Jess Cc: David Hale; Chweechen Lim; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Grenfell Tower Regeneration Project- Value Engineering

Gents

As you are aware, there is currently a significant deficit between the approved cost plan/budget and the initial figures coming back from Lead bitter- not least of which on the external fac;:ade and general fit-out where we are as

much as £483k and £1.24m apart respectively.

Clearly we have to reconcile but moreover bridge this gap as a matter of some urgency- your urgent assistance in

this regard would therefore be appreciated. Can you come back to us with a radical re-think of the scope/spec (whilst still meeting the original brief) by early part of next week to deliver it within budget.

If you have any queries at all as to what is required then please don't hesitate to give any of the team here a call to

clarify.

Can you also confirm by return your availability for a meeting to review the foregoing with the TMO next week.

Many thanks

Alun

Alun Dawson BSc (Hons) MCIOB MAPM

Associate Director

APPLEVARDS High Holborn House • 52-54 High Holborn • London • WC1V 6RL • United Kingdom ......... u.nu .. Tel : Mob: 1 • www.appleyards.co.uk

Appleyards: now part of Artelia International: same team, enhanced expertise

This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The intern et can not guarantee the integrity of this message. ARTELIA (and its subsidiaries) shall (will) not therefore be liable for the message if modified.

Appleyards Limited: Registered No. 3935522 England. Vat Reg. No. 232 2357 94 Dobson White Boulcott Limited trading as Appleyards: Registered No. 5086063 England. Vat Reg. No. 539 0912 36 Registered Office: Tubs Hill House, London Road, Sevenoaks, Kent, TN13 1 BL

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