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new administration’s efforts to
economize and reshape our
domestic federal agencies. We
also have the perfect model of
grassroots administration of
federal farm programs with our
County Committee System.
According to Chris Beyerhelm,
Acting FSA Administrator, in 2016
FSA provided over $22 billion
dollars to our nation’s rural
agricultural economy with an
operating budget of only $1.6
billion. I firmly believe FSA
county office employees are the
hardest working government
workers throughout all of
government. We have a story to
tell and NOW is the time to tell it
in the halls of Congress. (Cont.)
Special points of interest
• Almost 80 All South Rally photos here!
• These reports are submitted by active members of NASCOE working for YOU!
• Follow the NASCOE Blog and make frequent visits to www.nascoe.org!!
• Find out how things went at the April Negotiation meeting in WDC!
• There is a National Convention - website check it out and register today!!
• Become a PAC contributor, or increase your PAC contribution NOW!
I t’s good to back in the Lone
Star State returning from
this week’s NASCOE Negotiation
Meetings with our FSA
management in WDC. I feel we
had very productive meetings
with management and I want to
share the latest information that
we learned while in WDC. First,
on the President’s proposed
budget reductions to USDA
funding levels, as Robert Payne
states in his legislative report, our
FSA funding levels will much
more be dependent on what the
House and Senate agricultural
committee proposes for FSA
funding than the 20.7% reduction
level proposed by the President.
According to our NASCOE
Legislative Consultant, Hunter
Moorhead, it’s very reasonable to
expect reductions of 10% or less
for FSA funding. Hunter
Moorhead stated that the House
Ag Appropriations Committee has
done it’s work with their budget
for USDA and it’s possible that
when the current CR expires on
April 28th that FSA and other
USDA agencies could have full
FY17 funding while some federal
agencies would have another
temporary continuing resolution.
After spending time with our
NASCOE legislative team, it is very
evident that NASCOE and FSA are
in an excellent position to tell
“our FSA story” and the
efficiencies of our FSA program
delivery system.
We have been stressing and
describing the importance of our
NASCOE PAC coupled with
Outreach efforts to our local
congressional field offices and
agricultural stakeholders in
increasing our FSA/NASCOE
voices in the House and Senate.
We do face challenges with this
• Get involved in the business of NASCOE today!
• Can’t get enough? Visit a state convention in the SWA this summer! TX and OK have their dates set!
National Association of
FSA County Office
Employees
Southwest Area Ramblin’s
Inside this issue:
Alternate Executive Report 3
Membership Report &
Convention Info
5
Negotiations Report 7
All South Rally Q&A 9-10
Legislative Report 11
SWA DSA Winners 12
SWA Rally Reports 13-21
Publicity Report 22
April 2017
SWA Area Executive
Darvin Collins Texas
Work: (936)544-3857
Cell: (903)721-2404 [email protected]
SWA Alternate
Executive
Jay Goff Oklahoma
Work: (918)287-3570
Cell: (580)304-3635 [email protected]
Area Chairs
Awards & Scholarships:
Darcie Tiejen, KS
Benefits:
Angie Bierman, OK
Legislative:
Robert Payne, OK
Membership:
Ruth Ford, CA
NAFEC:
Jay Goff,
Negotiations:
Lynette Bond, UT
Programs:
LaCresha Dale, TX
Publicity:
Carla Spencer, TX
From the Desk of the SWA Executive
respecting management’s written official responses to our
issues which haven’t been released, I cannot go into the
specifics of each and every issue submitted. Important issues
discussed and negotiated on your behalf include:
• Workload measurement tool
• Issues involving consultation with COC’s in temporary shared management
• Leasing issues
• IT issues ie. WebTA 4.2
• Placement of COT’s
• Staffing/Personnel
• AgLearn Training
• CRP mid-contract management practices
• COC Election Ballots
• Flexing of CO positions for GS positions
• Adding FSA-444 to new hire packets
• IT Cybersecurity
• Notice CP-736 issues for 2016 LFP counties
As you can see there are many fronts and issues that NASCOE is
working for you. NASCOE has formed taskforces working
with FSA management on important issues that include
ACRSI, IT, development of new PT position descriptions, and
PT training. Yes, we face tremendous challenges in our
county offices with reduced staffing due to retirements and
the hiring freeze. Unfortunately, there is likely to be only
critical need positions and those that can be filled internally
within FSA that will be filled for the remainder of FY17.
NASCOE will be fighting to secure budget appropriations
necessary and essential for our county offices to effectively
do our job in providing our producers and customers the
best possible service. Yes, we face challenges, but I am very
optimistic of FSA’s role in future administration of USDA
farm programs and maintaining our FSA county footprint
across our nation.
Sincerely Submitted,
Darvin L. Collins, SWA Executive
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Our NASCOE PAC has been growing impressively and according
to Hunter Moorhead, the time has arrived to begin utilizing our
PAC in the coming budget appropriations battles in Congress.
So if you haven’t joined our NASCOE PAC, NOW is the time.
Robert Payne has provided a congressional contact spreadsheet
to each State Association in the Southwest Area and NASCOE
needs each local legislative district’s contact information for our
upcoming legislative outreach efforts. I encourage each state
association to complete and provide the information as soon as
possible.
Farm Bill hearings have started in earnest across the nation and
within house ag committee, but due to the pressing legislative
issues of healthcare, tax cuts, infrastructure, and budget, don’t
expect that a new farm bill will come to fruition early. Following
the confirmation of Sony Perdue, which will be happening after
Congress reconvenes on April 24th, appointments of Under
Secretaries, Administrators, and Deputy Administrators will
follow.
NASCOE leadership has established a continuous, open line of
communication with our FSA management and that was very
evident in our productive negotiations meetings. Due to
PURVIEW
Jay Goff, SWA Alt Exec.
Where does the time go? Do
you ever catch yourself saying
that statement? It seems as if
the older I get the more it
becomes relevant in my life.
Along with
that so does
my Purview,
what was
small and
simple has
developed
into
something
large and
complex. When I started for
the agency it was at the very
beginning of a farm bill,
veteran employees would tell
me that it will be easier for me
to grasp the new policy than it
will be for them. At the time I
thought they were crazy, how
someone with all of that
experience can find it more
difficult to implement
programs than someone new
off the street. It took a few
years and another farm bill
before I understood the
concept of forgetting past
rules and remembering the
new without getting them
confused. After witnessing it
for myself I must commend
FSA employees for being able
to adjust your Purview to
accommodate our producers
and consumers.
In February we held the All
South Rally in San Antonio TX,
which TASCOE deserves a big
“THANK YOU for their efforts”.
The Rally had great
attendance and a lot of great
topics discussed by many
speakers from NASCOE and
the NO. These events are a
great opportunity for
membership to
interact with the
leaders, not only
of the
organization but
also the agency.
Along with the
speakers, the
dialogue within
the SWA breakout
session was very
beneficial. Leaders from
many states discussed barriers
and opportunities for the
future of not just the
organization but for their
producers and agriculture in
general. The passion that is
displayed at these events is
contagious, and rightfully so
because our mission/impact is
relevant several times a day to
all that consume American
agricultural products.
One of the things that we
have focused on in the SWA is
developing our NAFEC
membership within the COC
system across each state. Our
numbers have grown
immensely this year due to
many efforts from leaders in
the SWA. JM Marketing has
sponsored conference calls
that have been narrated by
Kevin Dale and myself that
was open for all states. States
have delegated speakers to
attend COC orientation
meetings to present the
organization. KASCOE has
established a training session
for its directors to assist in
educating their areas.
PowerPoint presentations,
videos, application/forms
have been made accessible on
the NAFEC website
www.fsacountycommittees.
org. All of these were done in
an effort to grow membership
but more importantly to
empower our COC’s/
producers for the vitality and
relevance in their future.
There has been great success
thus far and thanks to
numerous people in the SWA,
please keep up the good work
for the COC system.
The title of this message was
an observation of those
plugged in to the organization
and passionate about the
impact of their job and
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Ramblin’s Alternate Exec/NAFEC Chair Report
agriculture. The definition of
Purview (Dictionary.com) is:
“the range of vision, insight,
or understanding”. Many of
us started out much the same
with limited experience and
knowledge, but with
engagement/involvement my
Purview has expanded
immensely along with my
Passion and relevance of what
we do every day. For those of
you serving the association
“Thank You”, for those of you
contemplating the next step I
encourage you to step out and
attend a State convention,
Area Rally, or a National
Convention you will not regret
it. Bottom Line is don’t limit
your Purview to what you feel
comfortable with, step out of
your comfort zone and
expand your “vision, insight,
and understanding” because
nothing ventured is nothing
gained.
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Ramblin’s
Hazen has been on board
with FSA less than a year.
His insight as a new
member validates much of
what NASCOE has to offer.
Presently, FSA employees
wait anxiously for the new
leadership to be set in
place…yet never wavering
from the duties on hand.
This is our legacy and
strength. We should take
pride that we are the front
line of the “can do”
Agency, and continue to
remind our on board staff
– new, and established – that they matter; as well as encourage
them to get more involved in their respective state associations.
This is also a good time to reinforce the reasons to become a
member with those waiting in the wings to join.
Stay true…Stay strong...Stay united.
Respectfully submitted,
Ruth Ford, SWA Membership Chair
Membership Chair Report
I was honored to attend the All South Rally in
San Antonio, and share the experience with
two newer members from my state’s
association: Garrett Pedretti (CED – Merced, CA), and Hazen
Kazaks (PT – Redding, CA). I would like to share Hazen’s
thoughts from the rally:
“I think the All South rally was a good experience for
me because of the networking opportunities. As
someone new to the agency, it was one more avenue
to tap into the institutional memory of FSA. In
addition, while I am relatively young, I still asked
retirement questions during that seminar. (Someone
told me it is good to think about one’s retirement
goals at the beginning of one’s career, and at the
end.) While at the event, I met a variety of fellow
county office employees and got my positive attitude
toward working at FSA reinforced. (For instance, we
are not in the business of subsidies, rather investments
in American agriculture.) I feel that I get something
out of my CHASCOE membership because the
association protects my federal benefits and looks out
for my general job security. Finally, San Antonio, the
venue of the multi-day event, worked out well because
it felt subtropical and luscious, even in February.”
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Be sure and check out the NASCOE Convention
website for hotel reservation information,
convention registration, and tentative agenda
info!
http://mascoe.org/
2017NASCOEConvention.htm
Tuesday, August 1—Registration
Wednesday, August 2
Registration continues
NASCOE Executive Meeting
Tours & Activities
Thursday, August 3
Registration continues
NASCOE Convention Convenes
Dinner and Scholarship Auction
Friday, August 4 Saturday, August 5
NASCOE Convention Continues NASCOE Convention Continues
RASCOE Luncheon Social Hour—Cash bar
Pub Crawl in Historic Downtown St. Charles NASCOE Banquet, Awards, and Entertainment
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Ramblin’s
CRP Mid contract Maintenance to be reviewed and possibly waived by the COC if said maintenance would damage the CRP in question.
Positive reaction. It would take legislation to change the requirement, but it would be possible for the COC to make a recommendation to the State Office for approval and this will be considered as the next Farm Bill is planned.
COC Election Ballot signatures for entities missing the title be considered by COC as an eligible ballot.
Positive reaction. Will add instructions on ballot to make sure and add the title, but let the COC determine eligibility if the person signing is known to be eligible to sign through history and other eligibility documents in the office.
MIDAS software be modified to allow for the searching by CRP contract.
Positive reaction. However there is a long list of potential modifications to MIDAS and nothing can be done until further funds are obtained. But this will be added to the list.
WEBTA Issues.
Positive reaction. Management is as frustrated with the WEBTA system as we are. Continue to send known issues to the State Office and they will continue to address them.
This is only a sampling of the items discussed. We felt like all items submitted were important and well worth discussion.
All County Office employees need to remember that this is a very real and effective way to bring about change for the better. Submitting items is so easy!! Just go to the NASCOE website: https://nascoe.org/forms-downloads/negotiations-submission/ and fill in the blanks!! Change won’t happen unless you initiate it!!
Another Successful Year for Negotiations!!
Your SWA Officers just returned from a very successful meeting with management in Washington DC. While there, we were able to meet with department heads from the following departments:
Chris Beyerhelm – Acting Administrator
Linda Treese – Acting Deputy Administrator for Field Operations & Staff
Thomas Mulhern – Human Resources Department & Staff
Mark Rucker – Deputy Administrator for Management & Staff
Brad Karmen – Acting Administrator for Department of Farm Programs & Staff
Darren Ash – Chief Information Officer & Staff
Jim Radintz – Deputy Administrator for Farm Loan Programs & Staff
Radha Sekar – Chief Financial Officer & Staff
We felt very good about the outcome of the items discussed and felt that our concerns were met with openness and a sincere effort to meet our needs. Some of the items submitted for consideration this year were:
CED’s getting authority to prepare up to $50,000 Microloans.
Positive reaction. They are working on it.
Different programs having the same requirements as to original copies of 578’s etc.
Positive reaction. They are working on it.
AG Learn Training being assigned early enough to complete during slow times and email notifications when something has been added.
Positive reaction. Will work with contractors to implement.
Allowing National and RSO positions to be housed in State or County Offices.
Positive reaction. However, this is a management call and some positions are better suited for State office locations.
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Ramblin’s
Negotiations Chair Report
The online submission process
at www.nascoe.org is an easy
way to get your voice heard! If
you have suggestions,
submissions for either
programs or negotiations can
be made anytime.
SUBMIT THEM ONLINE!!
HAVE IDEAS?
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Ramblin’s
Question:
In Kansas we cannot perform measurement services because we do not have up to date GPS unit for the field. Is help on the way?
Response: Chris Beyerhelm - Acting FSA Administrator
Not aware of lack of GPS equipment in the field. Will discuss with IT and compliance folks in WDC and hopefully put out a survey on where the equipment is needed.
Question:
Concerning any new workload measurement system, is anything being developed to count work COF’s cannot perform due to limited and inadequate staffing? Unfortunately in many instances COF’s are working “off the clock” after hours to get work done.
Response: Chris Beyerhelm - Acting FSA Administrator
Our new workload measurement model uses ARS, therefore every County Office employee need to do a good job of accurately reporting our activities within the correct program area. We are our own worst enemy because we are loyal and put in the effort to get the job done which appears we have adequate workforce because the job is getting done. Nobody knows what you know, so tell your story.
Question:
It seems that that leases with difficult situations are assigned to FSA as lead agency in our state with NRCS getting leases already negotiated and in effect. How is lead agencies determined in county office leasing negotiations with landlords?
Response: Chris Beyerhelm - Acting FSA Administrator
State FACS meet on a continual basis and lead agencies are assigned county service centers as agreed by the State FAC. These decisions are made at the state level.
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All South Rally – San Antonio, TX Q &A Session Notes with WDC Management
Friday February 17, 2017
Question:
The current system of having IRS verify AGI certifications filed in the county office is broken. County offices are spending too much and double work shuffling CCC-941’s in many cases multiple times to IRS for IRS determinations. Cannot there be a more cost and time effective way for IRS to electronically verify AGI certifications for FSA?
Response: Chris Beyerhelm - Acting FSA Administrator
Not the first time we’ve heard concern about this issue. FSA management has had dialogue with IRS and discussions have been at times stern. Ideally electronic filing would be efficient but would take technology which runs into a funding issue, however, this is being discussed.
Question:
As a County Office Employee it is very frustrating having producers coming into my office asking about programs such as the new “Organic Certification Cost Share Program” and we as employees do not have anything more than a general press release to answer specific questions from the producer. Programs are rolled out and we as FSA employees are the last to know. Is there any way FSA employees working the counters can have specific program information via notices and/or handbooks before programs are announced?
Response: Chris Beyerhelm - Acting FSA Administrator
Unfortunately delays in getting program procedures are required due to the bureaucratic process and getting the correct persons informed as it’s being rolled out. As an agency we need to do a better job in this area but please understand the political reality of announcing new programs as mandated by WDC and Congress coupled with the bureaucratic process of getting approval and clearance of new program regulations and handbook procedure.
Question:
Is there any funding to allow COF’s to get records moved to record depositories resulting from removal of the records hold?
Response: Chris Beyerhelm – Acting FSA Administrator
Unfortunately not at this time as we are operating on a CR and FY17 budget is basically the same as FY16 budget which is in reality a net decrease with increasing in leasing expense and COLA increase in January.
Question:
Is there any way that we can get our NAP forage reporting deadlines changed?
Response: Steve Peterson – Acting DAFP
Does not think NAP forage acreage reporting dates will change. COF’s need to educate our producers in getting their forages reported according to the established acreage certification deadlines.
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All South Rally – San Antonio, TX Q &A Session Notes with WDC Management
Friday February 17, 2017
It All Depends On You!!!
We (FSA employees) talk about
it often everywhere I go. The
change in the environment over
the past few years. The number
of people gone and the
experience they took with
them. The increasing workload
and complexity of programs
with fewer hands to manage
the load. The need for more
help and the right kind of help.
The gap of understanding
between upper management
and County personnel. The
stress level that comes with the
job.
Many times when we gather
together we are able to blow off
steam and lean on one another
to express the frustrations that
only another CO personnel
would understand. It is a great
time to talk to others that truly
understand. Face it, if you are
not prone to serving in the
County Office on a regular basis,
you have no idea of the
struggles that are an everyday
frustration in the office.
If you missed the All South Rally
in San Antonio Texas you
missed a great opportunity to
gather with other FSA
employees that struggle the
same way you do. Not only
that, you missed a great
opportunity to make a
difference to your everyday
work environment.
At every State Convention,
Rally, or National Convention I
have been to, an upper
management official of some
kind has been present. They
normally give a presentation
about current events and issues
that face us and then they
almost always take questions.
I must admit, sometimes you
get a political answer and
maybe a lot of lip service, if
nothing else in those instances,
you are planting seed. In many
other cases, you are driving
change. I am always
impressed when I return
home and get on a
conference call and the
issue we discussed at an
event is one of the top
issues discussed on that call.
Makes you feel that you are
part of something that is
working.
In reality, we will probably
never be able to fix all the
different issues that we face
daily. We are a piece of a great
big machine with a lot of
moving parts. Maybe even
more unfortunate, a lot of the
senseless aspects of policy that
we must contend with is
politically driven. Regardless of
the circumstances, we must
continue to seek change.
I’d like to encourage all of you
to make plans to attend
National Convention in St.
Charles Missouri in August.
Come see how NASCOE works.
Come talk to the National Office
people that need to know our
struggles. Make friends with co
-workers from all around the
country that will quickly
become family. And help drive
the change we so desperately
need.
By the time National
Convention rolls around, which
won’t be much longer, all the
new officials will be starting to
get their feet on the ground in
their new positions. We need a
good group of people there to
tell them how this part of the
machine runs and see if we can
get them off to a good start. On
top of that, we need you there
to show them the caliber of
employees we have working for
FSA.
Without you, there is no
NASCOE. Without membership,
there is no convention, there is
no voice, and there is certainly
no change. Come to National
Convention and let’s make a
giant push of progress for 2017
and beyond.
Robert Payne, Legislative Chair
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Legislative Chair Report Southwest Area
Ramblin’s
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Ramblin’s
Joyce Clover - Oklahoma Shown with SWA Alt Exec Jay Goff and SWA Exec
Darvin Collins
John Mark Kinnibrugh - Texas Shown with TASCOE President Morgan Limmer and
SWA Exec Darvin Collins
Carla Spencer - Texas Shown with NASCOE Publicity Chair Kristal Rater and
SWA Exec Darvin Collins
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Ramblin’s SWA Benefits Report
As submitted at the All South Rally in San Antonio, TX
February 18, 2017
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Southwest Area
Ramblin’s SWA Legislative Report
As submitted at the All South Rally in San Antonio, TX
February 18, 2017
Page 15
Southwest Area
Ramblin’s SWA Publicity Report
As submitted at the All South Rally in San Antonio, TX
February 18, 2017
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Southwest Area
Ramblin’s SWA Publicity Report, cont.
As submitted at the All South Rally in San Antonio, TX
February 18, 2017
Page 17
Southwest Area
Ramblin’s SWA Membership Report
As submitted at the All South Rally in San Antonio, TX
February 18, 2017
Page 18
Southwest Area
Ramblin’s SWA 2017 Strategy Report
As submitted at the All South Rally in San Antonio, TX
February 18, 2017
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Southwest Area
Ramblin’s SWA 2017 Strategy Report, cont
As submitted at the All South Rally in San Antonio, TX
February 18, 2017
Receive email notifications as the
NASCOE website is updated! This
also gets your home email into the
NASCOE membership database for
other communications.
FOLLOW US!!
NASCOE BLOG
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Ramblin’s SWA NAFEC Report
As submitted at the All South Rally in San Antonio, TX
February 18, 2017
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Southwest Area
Ramblin’s SWA NAFEC Report, cont.
As submitted at the All South Rally in San Antonio, TX
February 18, 2017
Management—they have all been present, accessible and willing to answer questions posed to them by you, the CO employee.
- I don’t have any issues -
“You wanna be where you can see, the troubles are all the same.”
You will! One of these days, it will be your office struggling to meet deadlines, hire staff, or stay open. The relationships you forge today, could serve you well on THAT day. Get to know your Area Execs—they may be serving at the National level someday. Get to know your National Execs—they serve you NOW. These events are an amazing opportunity to expand your professional network and get more involved with the business of NASCOE.
- I won’t know anyone -
“They’re always glad you came.”
NASCOE and the state affiliates are CO employees just like you, working in a COF just like yours, but in addition, they work for YOU! Without your input, your suggestion, your requests, NASCOE would have no reason to exist. Everything that NASCOE is, is for you. The Executive team is accessible and approachable—and you will know someone before the weekend is over—guaranteed! The acquaintances made during conventions and rallies, often times turn into lifelong friendships. The teams that come together to put on a convention or rally often provide another avenue for getting questions answered in the day-to-day processes of FSA.
- Not enough money -
Bring a friend—carpool—share a room. This is not an exclusive club. This is a group of CEDs and PTs that have decided that the business of NASCOE is important to the
future of FSA and we are all on the same pay grade with you! It can be expensive, but there are other ways to ease the pain. Headed to a National Convention for the first time? Submit an essay, win the writing contest, and NASCOE will pay for $500 of your expenses!!
Cheers!
I cannot encourage you enough to attend a state convention, an Area Rally or a National Convention. I’d like to take a moment now and ask you why you haven’t. Maybe your answer is:
- Not enough time -
“Making your way in the world today takes everything you’ve got.”
It is understood that we have busy lives—busier now than what we remember as kids. The bulk of the people that serve as our State officers, Area Executives, National Executives and committee chairs are all for the most part insanely busy people. They get DSAs for going over and above at their jobs, serving their communities, and in their support of NASCOE. It isn’t about having the time—it is about making the time for something that is important to our jobs.
- It’s just a big party -
“Taking a break from all your worries sure would help a lot.”
This is a professional organization made up of professionals. This is a personal/professional development opportunity. If you choose to spend that development time doing something other than networking and gaining knowledge, then that is a decision for you. There are times when we need to blow off some steam—who better to do that with than someone who feels your pain? It isn’t a big party—it is a professional event with a high octane atmosphere where friends and colleagues gather to rejuvenate, get inspired, and seek some attitude adjustment. Meetings have substance and can get passionate. NASCOE leadership, State leadership, Washington
Public ity Chair Report
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Ramblin’s
- I don’t understand
what NASCOE does -
The purpose of the Labor-Management Relations Agreement between USDA, FSA, and NASCOE is to provide means for and to facilitate:
A) Employee participation in the formulation of policies and procedures governing the terms of their employment and the conditions under which they work;
B) The fair and prompt settlement of grievances, disputes, and impasses;
C) Systematic labor-management relations in the attainment of FSA program objectives; and
D) More effective and active support of the farmer-elected committee system for the betterment of agriculture.
Since 1962, NASCOE has had the exclusive right to represent all county employees in consultations and negotiations with management and has accepted responsibility for and agreed to represent in good faith the interests of all county employees.
- Who needs 2 days of meetings -
The folks that make up our NASCOE Executive Board and Directors are people that are proud of FSA, our mission, and love serving the farmers and ranchers of this great nation. They are proud of the history of FSA and the heritage of NASCOE accomplishments. Excitement radiates from their eyes, their faces, their voices and it is intoxicating. You will find at the end of your first day of meetings that you can’t wait to reconvene tomorrow. And plans for next year will already be running through your head.
Come to one convention—one rally. You will be hooked and you will want more!