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AR Systems, Inc

Training Library Presents

A Healthcare Journey-

Building a Business in Healthcare…

And Beyond

Day Egusquiza, President

2018 1

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A 38+ year journey –roots to

healthcare – Day E.

Child in southern Idaho, raised in culture of

volunteerism. Parents lived the example.

Taught to give back—community, employer, country

Work hard, dream big, do what ‘feels right’ and be

accountable.

Taught, practiced thru example - religion, school and

community.

Graduated Salutatorian – by “accident.’

Married childhood sweetheart –had 1st ‘surprise ‘ child

at 18.

Husband attended community college while 1 worked .

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Continuing in a harder

journey

While working PT jobs – had 4 children. Kept looking for the career path beyond a ‘job.’

Work-home balance –guilt on all fronts. But family would come to the office – help file, be with mom. Saw efforts at balance.

Began attending college, found a temporary PT job at the local , county-owned hospital /without any county funds for over 30 years – and began auditing nursing payroll errors due to computerization issues. (Yes, 1980…)

Realized I like the ‘auditing’ world as I also loved showing the nursing leaders the errors in their work and the computer. Yep! Started young

After working PT /temp for 3 years, moved to the Supervisor of the Billing Dept. *still working on degree.

Learning curve was straight up!

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Discovery of skills – love what

you do

Within 3 years, promoted to the Director of the Business Office. Added Pt Registration, Physc hospital and 8 physician practice management. *30 years ago

Rapidly realized that the Bus Office was the ‘clean up crew’ with no through put or understanding what happens before the bill comes to them or how insurance pd..or what impacts an AR day...

Additionally, no ‘rejection’ claim tracking and trending was done.

And no payment plan for pts was available. Just pay in full or turn to collection. *Newspaper did not like the hospital*

And no training program, no orientation of new employees, no employee skill set standards.

And no dept head education on any of the ‘rules’ for documentation, charge capture, CPT codes, charge master, etc.

Learn from watching… be humble enough to ‘listen’ and open to ideas outside your own.

Gather up the talent around you

The training journey begins… 42018

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Leadership looks like…

As a new Manager, I was blessed to have an excellent

CEO and CFO who ‘tolerated’ me and all my ‘ideas’ for

change. +A Social Worker mentor – taught concepts.

I would see the need, create the ideas for improvement

and present them. If I did the work, took the risks- we

forged ahead. They allowed me to grow.

They did not put barriers in my path – but told others –

this needs done, let her do it. *Still working slowly on

degree.*

My CFO would say: Day doesn’t know what ‘no’ means.

She just finds a way under, over, around, or thru the

‘no’ barrier.

Other Dept Heads would say – Day makes us look bad.

*Guilt and felt I had to defend my work ethic and vision*2018 5

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Skill set and love of training

takes shape

Creating a new path of ‘education’ to staff, dept heads

and the patients was created. Saw the unmet need.

Pts: OB classes, how bills ‘look’, Sr Centers – Medicare

vs Medicaid, local community ed college.

Staff: Monthly educational training in all areas: Pt reg,

billing, insurance follow up, pt financing plans. Track

and trend patterns – make changes. Teach changes,

track and trend again…did they stick?

CEO brought ‘Continuing Quality Improvement”/Dr

Deming to the hospital. Brought Tom Peters/”In Search

of Excellence” ….. ‘Discovered I was a skunk…and darn

proud of it.

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The Journey to Healthcare

Entrepreneur Began developing classes and offered them to HFMA

chapters – beginning in Idaho. Added value/baby steps.

Hot topics for my hospital: “Integration of pre-

admission – clinical and financial. How to eliminate

surprises.” Discovered passion for public

speaking/training – a way of giving back.

At the 20th year at my hospital, major changes

occurred. CEO and CFO left –less than pretty. Interim

leadership ‘targeted’ dept heads –ugly for about 1 yr.

Still speaking/using vacation time all over the country.

Looking at the risk of leaving the hospital and creating a

unique company – with education as the focus.

Steven Covey: Teach a person to fish = a lifetime of

fishing. 2018 7

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Surprises happen when least

expected

Four children, single mom – risk taker but needed a ‘for

sure’ plan for income prior to leaving the hospital.

No ability or desire to re-locate as Idaho is where my

family is.

NEW CFO – asked me if I was looking to leave the

hospital? He knew about my speaking/training and felt

he might have an idea for me to consider. Joint venture

between the two hospitals (who didn’t trust each other)

to do the billing and collecting for a free standing MRI.

Felt this was the opportunity. Left and began

aggressively marketing additional classes – FREE – to

expand exposure..while I figured out – what exactly AR

Systems was going to be? UNIQUE!!!!

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Working with all skill sets, all

age groups, all approaches to

learning.

Accept that having your own company is 100% work.

100% creative juices to listen for the next thing a

hospital or provider needs. Create the class – teach!

100% marketing is branding the uniqueness of what you

offer…in 30 secs or less.

100% commitment to being UNIQUE…

100% realized that money does not equal success but

without it, life is a bit tough!

Start small… big debt = big stress = big chance of failing.

Create low cost,small projects and baby step upward.

Don’t delegate unless it is 100% perfected 1st.2018 9

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Today’s Workplace Challenges

1 chance to make a 1st impression. IT IS TRUE!

What are you known for? Integrity, exceeding what is

expected, realizing no one can know it all, it is not all

about money.

Family will always be a huge part of your life. Accept

it, embrace it, enjoy it.

Create a new communication pattern. Working with

doctors, nurses, revenue cycle, payers, compliance,

CFO and others who ‘touch’ us – requires massively

different ‘messages.’ Are you being ‘heard?’

Ownership is unfortunately too rare. It is

necessary.

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Thoughts from Tom Peter’s

Search of Excellence Series

“Leaders don’t create followers – they create new

leaders.’

If a window of opportunity appears, don’t pull down the

shade.

Excellent firms don’t believe in excellence, only in

constant improvement and constant change.’

Tom Peters, 2017

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Never stop dreaming or

creating… Juices keep

flowing!

Always have a long term goal – for when you ‘retire’, or

when you reach one goal –what is the next one?

I had always wanted to do significant volunteer work

but only with something I had a passion for.

Turning 60 made me re-assess – it was time to get

rolling!

Begin to look at my local hospital, local community and

decide –how can I give back in the area of healthcare?

With the gift of education – as that was what I loved!

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And then it was time to

Pay It Forward…‘Give more than we take”

Continue to impact the next generation – Giving back

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Welcome to the

Patient Financial

Navigator Foundation, Inc.

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The Patient Challenges with

HealthCare

• No one ‘asks’ to come to a hospital.

• Patient’s lives are impacted – they are scared, they feel

out of control, they are lost with the overwhelming

factors of cost/unknown, multiple providers, and

continuing frustration with ‘who knows all of this?”

• Patients are unaware of the many changes with their

insurance, government programs, employer’s coverage

and all the ‘rules’ associated with getting services paid.

• Patients historically access hospitals once a year or less.

Healthcare is very personal!

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Healthcare is personal.

Healthcare is local… but… Healthcare can be complex and too complicated

WHY? Every insurance has their own rules for coverage.

WHY? Physician directed care may not be insurance

approved.

WHY? Frustration in ‘thinking there is coverage in my

plan’ only to be denied as ‘not medically necessary.’

WHY? Charges and actual payment do not align.

WHY? Itemized statements from providers are

confusing

WHY? Changing employer plans are adding new items –

like Health Savings Accounts –with limited

understanding by the employers. +++++++

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…and They May Not Identify with the Language of Value-Based Care Tomorrow

We say… Consumers said…

Medical home “It sounds just like a nursing home.”

“First you go to the medical home, then you

go to the funeral home.”

Integrated care “It sounds like a sales pitch in a cheap

brochure.”

Accountable “It’s kind of scary. I am going to go there and

something bad is going to happen and

someone has to be held accountable for it.”

Value “It means things are cost effective. They are

going to keep the value down. You aren’t

getting the best care.”

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Source: M. Ross, T. Igus, and S. Gomez, “From Our Lips to Whose Ears? Consumer Reaction to Our Current Health Care Dialect.” The Permanente Journal. Winter 2009, Vol. 13, No. 1. http://www.thepermanentejournal.org/files/Winter2009/dialect.pdf

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Additional ‘factors’ influencing

the patient experience=

confused=hassle factor

Electronic medical record /EHR – incentive and penalties *Ransomware*

Integrated systems between providers/doctors and hospitals but safety

with data sharing a concern.

Quality reporting systems –with rewards and penalties

Physicians new payment system

Alternative payment systems for hospitals, doctors, long term care, DME ,

home health – all in the midst of rolling out with the goal of increased

quality, reduced costs and more engaged patients.

What about a change to ‘privatizing’ Medicare? Voucher program -

means?

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An Idaho-Based, Family

Foundation was created in

2017 – MISSION:

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PAY IT FORWARD – Giving Back. All Volunteer Board.

Collaboration = Be a “Difference Maker.” The power of One.

Day Egusquiza, Founder and President

*38y in healthcare reimbursement; 20y

at MVRMC; 18y owner national consulting company.*

Daryl Wert, Vice President

Jenyfer Stokes, Director

Jayme Ketterling, Secretary

Jodyi Wren, Director Jeremy Egusquiza, Director Karla Carter, Director Rosemary Fornshell, Ad-hoc Special thanks to

Kody/Facebook and Jeremy/Webpage

Special thanks to the volunteers+CSI/strategic partner – location

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What is the PFNF, Inc

A not-for-profit Foundation with the focus on transforming the hassle factor …thru Education. Answers: What happens now—beyond the clinical care?

Three legs of the Foundation’s Outreach Mission: No cost for any service

Community Outreach – Boot Camps

Employer Outreach – Lunch and Learn for employees

Navigator Resource Library- personal pt/family

As significant healthcare changes occur along with ongoing ‘Healthcare buzz’ updates in local newspaper.

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Three components of this

dynamic program- A community

outreach program

• Employer program

• Build historical info

• Lunch & Learn-onsite education with employers

• HealthCare Buzz

• EOB – how to read

• New healthcare changes-national and local

• Q&A –as requested by the site

• Community programs

• Networking with existing services

• Creating unique trainings

• Identify community healthcare legislative changes -educate

• Turning 65 Bootcamp

• National ‘new terms:-HSA, ACO, Quality based, Managed, Medicare, etc.

• HealthCare Buzz

• Navigator Resource library * located at local hospital

• Employer specific guides

• Medicare & ME

• Traditional vs Mgd

• Translating ‘ease’

• What to expect when??

• General Education

• How to appeal?

• Networking with existing services

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1st) Example of Community

Outreach Education – Boot Camps

1) Identify community leaders to participate in the boot camp trainings

2) Identify thru existing community services, additional healthcare related ‘hassle factor’ training.

3) Provide education to high schools, colleges, regional and others as requested.”

4) Innovation lab – creating community specific ed.

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More Fun!

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2018 Projected Community

Outreach EducationOUTREACH TO HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS AND COLLEGE

STUDENTS/MEDICAL FIELD

“Insurance 101” – teach Govt and Personal Finance

CONTINUE 3X A YEAR MEDICARE FOCUSED BOOT CAMPS

“Medicare 101, Social Security Benefits and Assistance

for Seniors” Boot Camp- 2x a year

“Preparing to Turn 65” Boot Camp 1x year

All class material is posted on the PFNFinc.com

Webpage for immediate and ongoing reference.25

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More 2018 Community

Outreach

Partnering with the Small Business Development Center

at CSI:

“Employer Healthcare Summits/Luncheons– 2 x a

year.

Presenting “Insurance 201” at the community Safety &

Business Fest. Employer focused

Presenting to service groups – updated. “What does

disruption in healthcare look like?” – POWERFUL

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Ongoing Education – thru

“HealthCare Buzz” articles

Times News /local bi-monthly educational articles

All articles are available on our webpage:

What does out of network look like?

What is a portal and why do I care?

Turning 65: Initial wellness visit

Turning 65: How does a Medicare inpt actually pay?

Turning 65: What is a Medicare Supplemental Insurance

plan?

Turning 65: What are the Medicare options? **

Turning 65: When is Medicare a 2nd payer? **

Turning 65: Fall Medicare Mgd Care Enrollment27

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Trusted HealthCare EducatorParticipate:

Office on Aging events

Wellness Fairs- Have Ins or Medicare booth *Ask the Expert*

Population Health dialogue/changes = ‘translator’

New transformations in healthcare

Employer work place insurance initiatives

Next generation of healthcare –with partners

School outreach – high school, colleges29

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2nd) Example of Employer-

Specific “Lunch & Learn”

1. Meet with the HR staff to learn about the employer’s

insurance plan.

2. Outline the key elements for education to be covered

during the 30 min employee ‘Lunch and Learn.’

3. Hot spots for education (usually): EOB education, out of

network, what happens when you are scheduled for a

surgery and ‘HealthCare Buzz’ ++ Q&A.

4. Innovation lab – taking the education to the employer.

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Take the Hassle Out of the Experience

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Get a referral to a surgeon

Find out if the surgeon, anesthesiologist, pathologist, and

radiologist are in your network

Find out if the hospital is in your network

Find out how much the operation will cost you out-of-pocket (or hold

your breath until the bill comes)

Figure out where your out-of-pocket costs for

pre-op tests will be lowest (or don’t think

about this until you get the bill)

Call to get a preauthorization from your health plan (or

realize later that you forgot)

Worry about whether you will have to pay anything

in advance, and if so, how much

Have the surgery

Spend a month dreading getting the final bill in

the mail

Source: Based on the hassle-map construct developed by Slywotzky (2011).

Hassle Map: Elective Surgery for an Insured Patients- who knows to do this?

IMPROVE THE EXPERIENCE

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So now you need healthcare –

Outpt surgery - CARPEL TUNNEL

Surgeon’s office will contact your insurance carrier to get the surgery pre-

authorized. Insurance carrier has their own criteria for medically

necessary services. Many times requires ‘negotiation’ with provider and

payer.

Routine bills for an outpt surgery- usually each sent separately:

Surgeon Anesthesiologist

Pre-op testing Procedure location (Hospital, free standing

ctr)

IMPORTANT: Validate all of the above are within the network that is part of

the plan. IN NETWORK

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Understanding today’s

insurance world

Benefit packages include in network and out of network

payments.

In network = Employer or individual insurance plan has

contracted with healthcare providers. If you stay in

network, there will be a reduction off billed charges.

Patient still owes yearly deductible and each

visit/hospitalization/outpt service has a co-insurance

too.

Out of network – a penalty as there is no contract so full

billed charges are normally due.

ALWAYS ask before going to see any healthcare provider.

PLUS DISTRUPTIONS IN HEALTHCARE—Lots of new

delivery choices… Web-based, individual businesses do

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Think like a pt – out of network (means what to the pt or family?)

• 40 year old has had emergency foot /ankle surgery approx 8 years ago and taken to a Boise hospital. The surgeon specialized in this type of foot surgery. Both in network at that time.

• 3 surgeries later –still problems with rebuilding the foot to allow the pt to walk.

• July 2013, employer changes plans and now the doctor and hospital who employees the doctor is out of network.

• The pt continues to go to the surgeon who does another surgery Oct 2014 and a follow up minor surgery in 2015. Pt was aware of the change but did not know to do anything different as he was in continuing care.

• Insurance pays significantly lower – no adjustment from charges as out of network/no contract. Pt pays all charges except actual payment to doctors, hospitals, tests. Huge financial hit.

• What does the employee or pt know of the a) ramifications of out of network, b) prior notice to get approved and c) appeal rights?

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3rd) Examples from the Onsite/Hospital

Navigator Resource Library

1) Thru employer specific meetings, build data base of insurance plans, how to read the EOB, deductibles, etc.

2) 1 on 1 intervention with the patient/family – complete work paper

3) Create glossary of terms

4) Create reference guide for additional community resources

5) Create networking ‘handoffs’ with existing hospital team - payment options, social work, estimates, patient experience, physician offices, others

6) Innovation Lab: After Hours Q&A – Weds 5:00 -6:00 p.m.; using patient portal; tracking and trending improvements/feedback; integration with medical community; face to face and automation.

7) Volunteer staffing plus a full time Manager and an unpaid Director/Foundation

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Think like the family who is

scared with a new ER visit

w/insurance, employer specific

• Daughter has just been admitted thru the ER. (Inpt vs obs means what to

the pt?)

• Parents are scared and distraught about the health of their daughter with

the unplanned ‘admit.’

• As comforting as the care givers are, the financial questions loom large.

What happens now?

• Who has insurance? What was done with the insurance? What is my

coverage? “I have never had to use it before, so I don’t know anything! “

• Think Pt Financial Navigator Program referral

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Think like a patient – Medicare

Part C/Managed Care – comes to

the ER 86 year old with Humana. What is done in the ER to inform the pt this is

not traditional Medicare?

If the pt is ‘admitting/obs or inpt” – what happens so the pt understands

the difference between Traditional Medicare and Part C/Mgd Medicare?

Now they are in a bed, what happens so the 86 year old understands their

out of pocket, what coverage there is with Humana that may be different

than Traditional, is this obs or inpt? Who has this information for our sick,

confused Sr who does not have anyone to ask?

Care givers/family – who do they ask about the above?

Think Pt Financial Navigator Program referral

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It is all doable..

• Have the vision and the passion to make a difference in the hassle factor in healthcare

• Remember – all the automation does not replace the human touch.

• Remember – our families are the core of healthcare.

• It is very personal!

Thanks, Day Egusquiza

Founder/President-

An Idaho-based Family Foundation.

Webpage: Http://PFNFInc.com

Like us on Facebook.com/PFNFInc

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