Astrological Reasoning-For Predicting Off-Springs

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Astrological Reasoning –

For the possibility of progeny



Introduction

In Hindu Astrology, the 5th House deals with Children aka putra-stanam. It is

usually used to predict if there is any possibility of a native having kids or not.

Before the 5th house is examined, it is very important to determine the

probability of progeny using the calculations shown below. The strength for

Beeja (Male) and Kshetra (Female) are to be checked from Rashi chart.

Kshetra MUST BE EVEN to be fertile. Beeja MUST BE ODD to have a

strong seed for pro-creation. Even when the 5th house on both male &

female charts is strong, still, there is a possibility for not having any children

due to the existence of bad yoga specifically on 5th House.

If Saturn is a malefic planet and is in 4th House, it ‘Spoils or Destroys or

Activates’ the 5th House. If malefic Saturn is in 2nd house, it NOT only rules

that house (Kutumbha-stanam), it also creates ups & downs in 5th (Putra-

stnam) house. For both these conditions, the chances for the Native to have

off-springs are very slim.



Finally, using the known BSP (Bhrigu Sarala Padathi) rules, check if any Malefic

is affecting the 5th House and Lord of the 5th House.

Though commonly female’s chart is the first one to be studied, if female is over

45 years, male’s chart takes precedence. In this case, check his longevity,

Marakas (Cause of Death planets) and current Maha-Dasha and Antar-Dasha

planets.

Sometimes, just the Female or Male Native’s chart is suffice to come to a

conclusion



Procedure to predict progeny

All the explanation for the calculations are available in detail in the book titled

“How to Judge Horoscope Vol 1” written by Late. B. V. Raman.

Kshetra Calculations:

Moon is Matru-karaka, Jupiter is Karaka for Marriage for Females and Mars

controls the flow of blood.

To calculate the Kshetra, add the longitudes of Mars, Moon and Jupiter.

Subtract from this sum, a multiple of 360 degrees, so that the final difference is

less than 360 degrees. Use this to find out Zodiac Sign. This is either odd or

even sign.

For example: Moon = 47D33M , Mars = 290D47M and Jupiter = 217D02M,

the sum is 555D22M, take away 360D then its 195D22m.

So, the Kshetra will be 7th Zodiac Sign (Libra) with 15 deg 22 mins.

(6*30 = 180 – it completed all 6 signs). Libra is ODD sign.



As soon as the Kshetra is calculated,

if Rahu is in Kshetra zodiac sign in Rashi or Navamsa chart , the

probability of conception is very low. At this point, there is no need

to calculate Beeja or any further analysis is not required.

If malefic Saturn is in Kshetra zodiac sign in Rashi or Navamsa

chart, the probability of conception is very low.

Beeja Calculations:

Sun is pitru-karaka, Jupiter is Karaka for Marriage for Females and Venus is

the Karaka for Marriage for Males.

To calculate the Beeja, add the longitudes of Sun, Venus and Jupiter.

Subtract from this sum, a multiple of 360 degrees, so that the final difference is

less than 360 degrees. Use this to find out Zodiac Sign. This is either odd or

even sign.

For example: Sun = 182D38, Venus is 137D12 and Jupiter is 355D12,

The sum is 675D02, take away 360D then its 315D02m.

So, the Beeja will be 11th Zodiac Sign (Aquarius) with 15 deg 02 mins.

(10*30 = 300 – it completed all 10 signs). Aquarius is ODD sign.



Strength of Beeja Strength of Kshetra Resultant

Strong (ODD) Strong (EVEN) Children are born at early age

Strong Weak (ODD) Children are born late in life

Weak (EVEN) Strong Children are born late in life

Weak Weak Couple WILLNOT have any Kids

If Kshetra is weak, additional information can be used to predict the possibility

of a child.

benefic planets are in that sign

benefic’s are aspecting the Kshetra sign

Jupiter is a benefic and is aspecting the Kshetra sign

Moon & Mars are preferably in EVEN Signs.

Moon & Mars are benefics, NOT co-joined by malefics.

Moon & Mars are benefics, NOT aspected by malefics.



Analysing different charts:

The different charts that are to be considered for analysis are: Rashi, Navamsa

(D-9), Sapthamsa (D-7), Moon as lagna, 5th Lord as lagna and Jupiter as lagna.

The information to be gathered for analysis from each chart are:

Planets in 5th house: List the planets here. Identify if the Planets are

Masculine , Feminine or Hermaphrodite

Lord of 5th house: Benefic/Malefic, is in Odd/Even Sign,

Movable/Common/Fixed sign

5th house Lord in house : In which house is the 5th Lord residing and the

house characteristics

5th house Lord – conjoined with : List the planets here. Identify if the

Planets are Masculine , Feminine or Hermaphrodite

The current’s dasha also need to be considered during various charts analysis.

For example:

If the current dasha is Rahu then check the antardahas. Rahu/Jupiter,

Rahu/Moon and Rahu/Mars are the first possibilities (remember we used

them to calculate the Kshetras).



If Moon /Mars/Jupiter are Benefics and Exalted, then their Dashas or

Antardashas are guaranteed.

If Moon /Mars/Jupiter is the Lord of 5th House and a benefic and/or

NOT ASPECTED by malefic (include Rahu/Ketu here), then their Dashas or

Antardashas are guaranteed.

Finally, validate known BSP rules and yoga’s pertaining to 5th house.



Case Studies Summary:

In these case studies, couple # 1 and #4 are examples where the female chart explicitly

shows the ability for progeny. Couple #2 is the example for childlessness. Couple #3 shows

the importance of Saturn for progeny, even when the Kshetra and 5th house analysis is

weak on Rashi and Jupiter the karaka is weak in D-7 (Sapthamsa) chart. Female chart #4

shows how the Saturn had spoiled the chances for Progeny. Male chart #5 depicts the delay

in the ability for progeny.



Couple #1 --- Female Chart:



For this Native, the first child was during the period Venus/Jupiter, second during

Venus/Saturn, third during Venus/Saturn and fourth during Venus/Mercury.

Let us first look at the fundamental conditions:

1. Calculating Kshetra = 29-52 + 241-44 + 106-21 = 377-57. Kshetra is Aries at 17

Degrees 57 Mins after completing one FULL-CYCLE. Kshetra is an ODD Sign.

2. On Rashi Chart there is Mars and on Navamsha it is Moon on Kshetra Sign.

3. Rahu is NOT in Kshetra Sign both in Rashi and Navamsha.

4. Planet MOON (CHANDRUDU) is in : 6 House from Lagna. Its Zodiac Sign is: 9 ---

Dhanus (Sagittarius) It is: ====> Dual ===> Odd . This Planet Motion is : Forward

. Planet Inclination is: 1 Degrees and 44 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is: Saturn

5. Planet MARS (KUJUDU) is in : 10 House from Lagna. Its Zodiac Sign is: 1 ---

Mesha (Aries) It is: ====> Movable ===> Odd . This Planet Motion is : Forward .

Planet Inclination is: 29 Degrees and 52 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is:

Ascendant (Moon)

6. Planet JUPITER (GURUDU) is in : 1 House from Lagna. Its Zodiac Sign is: 4 ---

Kataka (Cancer) It is: Exalted ====> Movable ===> Even . This Planet Motion is :

Forward . Planet Inclination is: 16 Degrees and 21 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya

is: Venus

7. Jupiter -- Benefic – Exalted is Lord of 6th & 9

th Houses is in 1

st House – House owned by

Moon.

8. Mars – Benefic is Lord of 5th (Putra-stanam) and 10

th (Karma-stanam) is in 10

th House.

9. Moon -- A Neutral is Lord of 1st House is in 6

th House – House owned by Jupiter. Hence

Parivarthana Yoga exists.



Based on the analysis, the main three planets are NOT MALEFICS.

Let us now look at the 5th

House conditions from various charts:

Chart Planets in 5th House

Lord of 5th House

Planets Aspecting 5th House

Rashi ---None ---

Mars a Neutral is in 10th (Karma-stanam), aspecting 1st, 4th and 5th (Putra-stanam) Houses. Mars is in its OWN house. Mars, Jupiter and Rahu

Navamsa ---None ---

Jupiter and is in 1st House, aspecting 5th (its OWN) House. Jupiter is residing in House owned by Mars. Mars, Jupiter and Mercury

Moon as Lagna

Mars , residing in its OWN house

Mars a Neutral is in 5th House, aspecting 8th, 11th and 12th Houses. Mars is in its OWN house. ---None ---

5th House Lord (Mars) Mercury & Venus

Sun is in 4th House, cojoined with Jupiter & Rahu, residing in the House owned by Moon. Saturn

Jupiter (Karaka for Children) ---None ---

Mars a Neutral is in 10th (Karma-stanam), aspecting 1st, 4th and 5th (Putra-stanam) Houses. Mars is in its OWN house. Mars, Jupiter and Rahu



Jupiter – Karaka for Children:

In Rashi Chart, Jupiter -- Benefic – Exalted is Lord of 6th & 9

th Houses is in 1

st House – House

owned by Moon. Venus is the Lord of Kakshya for Jupiter.

From Nakshatra perspective, Jupiter is in Pushya – Ruler being Saturn -- Temperament: Deva

(godly) -- Gender: Masculine -- Purpose: DHARMA (godly) With respect to Janma

Nakshatra it is : Mitra Nakshatra – GOOD

Additional Information: In Rashi chart, Mercury & Venus are in 2nd

(Kutumbha-stanam)

while in Navamsa Mars is in 2nd

house.

Conclusion:

Female Native got married during Venus/Rahu period. Based on the above data, it is now

understood that the birth of four children were during Venus mahadasha and Jupiter, Saturn

and Mercury antardasha.



Couple #1 --- Male Chart:

Beeja is: 182-12 + 221-00 + 87-09 = 490-21. Beeja is Leo at 10 Degrees 21 Mins after

completing one FULL-CYCLE. Beeja is an ODD Sign.



Couple #2 --- Female Chart :



For this Native, NO CHILDREN WERE born as of 2012.


1. Calculating Kshetra is: 76-38 + 206-51 + 129-58 = 413-27. Kshetra is Taurus at 23

Degrees 27 Mins after completing one FULL-CYCLE. Kshetra is an EVEN Sign.

2. On Rashi Chart there is NO PLANET and on Navamsha it is Venus on Kshetra Sign.



Thula (Libra) It is: ====> Movable ===> Odd . This Planet Motion is : Forward .

Planet Inclination is: 26 Degrees and 51 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is: Ascendant

(Mercury)


Mithuna (Gemini) It is: ====> Dual ===> Odd . This Planet Motion is : Forward.

Planet Inclination is: 16 Degrees and 38 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is: Venus


Simha (Leo) It is: ====> Fixed ===> Odd . This Planet Motion is : Forward. Planet

Inclination is: 9 Degrees and 58 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is: Mars

7. Jupiter – Malefic is Lord of 4th

& 7th

Houses, is in 12th

House – House owned by Sun.

8. Mars – Malefic is Lord of 3rd

and 8th

Houses, is in 10th House – House owned by

Mercury.

9. Moon – Malefic is Lord of 11th House is in 2

nd House – House owned by Venus.



Based on the analysis, the main three planets are MALEFICS and Jupiter is the only planet

with Kakshya Lord as Mars (the key planet for calculating Kshetra). Kshetra being EVEN is

not suffice to predict the possibility of off-springs.




Lord of 5th House


Rashi -- None --

Saturn -- A Neutral -- Debilitated

(Neecha) is in 8th House, House

owned by Mars. Saturn is aspecting

2nd (kutumbha-stanam), 4th

(Matru-stanam/Sukha-stanam) and

10th (Karma-stanam). Mars -- Malefic and

Ketu

Navamsa -- None --

Sun -- A Neutral, is in 1st House

cojoined with Saturn and

residing in House owned by

Mars. Mars -- Malefic

Moon as Lagna -- None --

Saturn -- A Neutral -- Debilitated

(Neecha) is in 7th House from

Moon, House owned by Mars.

Saturn is aspecting 3rd, 5th (Putra-

stanam) and 11th Houses. Jupiter – Malefic

5th House Lord (Saturn) as Lagna

Jupiter –

Malefic

Sun -- A Neutral, is in 1st House

cojoined with Saturn and

residing in House owned by

Mars. -- None --

Jupiter (Karaka for Children) -- None --

Jupiter -- Malefic, aspecting 5th, 7th

and 9th Houses. Saturn is in the 9th

House. Jupiter – Malefic




In Rashi Chart, Jupiter – Malefic is Lord of 4th & 7

th Houses is in 12

th House – House owned

by Sun. Mars is the Lord of Kakshya for Jupiter.

From Nakshatra perspective, Jupiter is in Magha – Ruler is Ketu -- Temperament: Rakshasa

(demon) -- Gender: Masculine -- Purpose: ARTHA With respect to Janma Nakshatra it is :

Kshema Nakshatra - GOOD

Additional Information: In Rashi chart, Moon a Malefic is in 2nd

(Kutumbha-stanam)

while in Navamsa Venus a Neutral is in 2nd

house.

Conclusion:

For this Native, the Husband’s Beeja is ODD Sign which indicates that “Children are born

late in life “.

The important planets for calculating Kshetra are MALEFICS. Saturn being the Lord of 5th

House aspecting 2nd

and 4th

houses is Debilitated (Neecha). So, the possibility of having

children at older age no more exists due to Saturn.



Couple #2 --- Male Chart :

For this Native, NO CHILDREN WERE born as of 2012.

Beeja is: 97-17 + 124-23 + 57-33 = 279-13. Beeja is Capricorn at 09 Degrees 13 Mins .

Beeja is an EVEN Sign. For Male, Beeja must be ODD.

Hence a WEAK Beeja and a STRONG Kshetra results in “Children are born late in life “.



Couple #3 --- Female Chart:



This Native got married during Saturn/Moon Period, the first and second children were born

during the period of Saturn/Rahu.


1. Calculating Kshetra is:= 254-44 + 84-16 + 171-51 = 510-51. Kshetra is Scorpio at 10

Degrees 51 Mins after completing one FULL-CYCLE. Kshetra is an EVEN Sign.

2. On Rashi and on Navamsha Chart NO PLANET is on Kshetra Sign.



Mithuna (Gemini) It is: ====> Dual ===> Odd . This Planet Motion is : Forward.

Planet Inclination is: 24 Degrees and 16 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is: Moon

5. Planet MARS (KUJUDU) is in : 3 House from Lagna. Its Zodiac Sign is: 9 --- Dhanus

(Sagittarius) It is: ====> Dual ===> Odd . This Planet Motion is : Forward. Planet

Inclination is: 14 Degrees and 44 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is: Sun


Kanya (Virgo) It is: ====> Dual ===> Even . This Planet Motion is : Forward. Planet

Inclination is: 21 Degrees and 51 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is: Mercury

7. Jupiter – Malefic is Lord of 3rd

& 6th

Houses, is in 12th House – House owned by

Mercury -- Benefic -- Exalted.



8. Mars – Benefic is Lord of 2nd

and 7th

Houses, is in 3rd

House – House owned by Jupiter

– Malefic .

9. Moon – Malefic is Lord of 10th House is in 9th House – House owned by Mercury --

Benefic -- Exalted.

10. Where ever Saturn resides, he rules that House and Sign. Saturn -- Benefic --

Debilitated (Neecha) is the Lord of 4th & 5

th Houses. With Saturn as lord of 5th and

Rahu in 5th

House on Rashi Chart, the possibility for having children can be

Rahu/Saturn or Saturn/Rahu.

Based on the analysis, the main two planets are MALEFICS. Moon’s Lord of Kakshya is

Moon and for Jupiter its Mercury. Also, Jupiter is residing in house owned by Mercury.

Hence the Malefic nature of Jupiter got reduced.






Lord of 5th House


Rashi Rahu

Saturn -- A Neutral --

Debilitated (Neecha) is in 7th

House, House owned by Mars.

Saturn is aspecting 1st, 3rd

and 9th houses. Moon is in 9th

and Mars is in 3rd house. Venus and Ketu

Navamsa Jupiter Moon is in 3rd House -- None --

Moon as Lagna -- None -- Mars is in 7th House

Saturn -- A Neutral -- Debilitated (Neecha)

5th House Lord (Saturn) as Lagna Venus and Ketu

Sun is in 6th House cojoined

with Mercury & Jupiter -- None --

Jupiter (Karaka for Children) -- None --

Saturn -- A Neutral --

Debilitated (Neecha) is in 7th

House, House owned by Mars.

Saturn is aspecting 1st, 3rd

and 9th houses. Moon is in 9th

and Mars is in 3rd house. Jupiter




In Rashi Chart, Jupiter – Malefic is Lord of 3rd

& 6th

Houses, is in 12th House – House owned

by Mercury -- Benefic -- Exalted. Mercury is the Lord of Kakshya for Jupiter.

From Nakshatra perspective, Jupiter is in Hasta – Its Ruler is Moon -- Temperament: Deva

(godly) -- Gender: Feminine -- Purpose: MOKSHA. With respect to Janma Nakshatra it is :

Naidhana Nakshatra - TOTALLY BAD

Let us now look at the Jupiter in Sapthamsa (D-7) :

Pisces Aries Taurus Gemini

Aquarius Mars Mercury

Sun,

Saturn Cancer

Capricorn

Ketu,

Ascendant

Rahu,

Jupiter Leo

Venus Moon

Sagittarius Scorpio Libra Virgo

Jupiter is conjoined with Rahu in 7th

House (Leo – Owner being Sun) in D-7, the chances

for the Native to have ability to give birth during Jupiter mahadasha is ZERO.



Conclusion:

For this Native, the Husband’s Beeja is ODD Sign which indicates that “Children are

born at early age “.

Since the Native got married during Saturn Period, Saturn being Lord of 5th

and residing

in 7th

, it became the primary reason for the Native to give birth to TWO Kids, first at the

age of 24 and second at the age of 27..

Couple #3 --- Male Chart:

Beeja is: 56-07 + 20-30 + 70-43 = 147-20. Beeja is Leo at 27 Degrees 20 Mins . Beeja is

an ODD Sign.



Female Chart # 4:



This Native got married during Mars/Jupiter Period, the first child died before delivery,

second was born during Mars/Venus period, third and fourth died after delivery.


1. Calculating Kshetra is:= 270-55 + 85-19 + 252-10 = 608-24. Kshetra is Sagittarius at

08 Degrees 24 Mins after completing one FULL-CYCLE. Kshetra is an ODD Sign.

2. On Rashi Chart Jupiter, Venus and Saturn are on Kshetra Sign.



Makara (Capricorn) It is: ====> Movable ===> Even . This Planet Motion is :

Forward. Planet Inclination is: 0 Degrees and 55 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is:

Saturn


Mithuna (Gemini) It is: ====> Dual ===> Odd . This Planet Motion is : Forward

Planet Inclination is: 25 Degrees and 20 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is: Moon


Dhanus (Sagittarius) It is: ====> Dual ===> Odd . This Planet Motion is : Forward

Planet Inclination is: 12 Degrees and 10 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is: Sun

7. Jupiter a natural malefic turned to be a functional benefic since its lord of 4th

and 7th

houses.

8. Mars a malefic is Lord of 3rd

and 8th houses

9. Moon a malefic is lord of 11th house.

10. Where ever Saturn resides, he rules that House and Sign. Saturn is in 4th

(Sukha-

stanam). Saturn is the Lord of 5th

& 6th

Houses. According to BSP rules, Saturn spoils or



destroys or activates 5th

(its own) house and creates ups & downs in 7th house. Even in

Navamasa, Saturn is in 4th

house. Also, Saturn is in Kshetra sign.

Based on the analysis, the main two planets are MALEFICS .




Lord of 5th House


Rashi Moon

Saturn is in 4th House, cojoined with Venus and Jupiter. Saturn

is aspecting 6th,10th and 12th houses. Ketu is in 6th House, owned by Saturn, Mars is in

10th House and Rahu is in 12th House. -- None --

Navamsa -- None -- Mars (Retro) is in 11th House Mars

Moon as Lagna -- None --

Venus is in 12th House, cojoined with Saturn and Jupiter. Venus is aspecting Mars. Sun

5th House Lord (Saturn) as Lagna -- None -- Mars is residing in 7th House Jupiter and Mercury

Jupiter (Karaka for Children) -- None -- Mars is residing in 7th House Jupiter and Mercury




In Rashi Chart, Jupiter – Benefic is Lord of 4th & 7

th Houses, is in 4

th House – its OWN house.

From Nakshatra perspective, Jupiter is in Mula -- Its Ruler is Ketu -- Temperament: Rakshasa (demon)

-- Gender: Masculine -- Purpose: KAMA With respect to Janma Nakshatra it is : Mitra Nakshatra - GOOD

Conclusion:

For this Native, the only child was due to Venus aspecting Mars both in Rashi and Moon as

Lagna charts.



Male Chart # 5:



This native had his one-and-only son during Moon/Sun period.


1. Calculating Beeja is: 180-03 + 138-04 + 20-04 = 338-11. Beeja is Pisces at 8

Degrees 11 Mins . Beeja is an EVEN Sign.

2. On Rashi Chart Ketu and on Navamsa Lagna are on Beeja Sign.

3. Rahu is NOT in Beeja Sign both in Rashi and Navamsha.

1. Planet SUN is in : 6 House from Lagna. Its Zodiac Sign is: 7 --- Thula (Libra) It is:

Debilitated (Neecha) ====> Movable ===> Odd . This Planet Motion is : Forward

Planet Inclination is: 0 Degrees and 3 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is: Saturn

2. Planet VENUS is in : 4 House from Lagna. Its Zodiac Sign is: 5 --- Simha (Leo) It is:

====> Fixed ===> Odd . This Planet Motion is : Forward . Planet Inclination is: 18

Degrees and 4 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is: Venus

3. Planet JUPITER (GURUDU) is in : 12 House from Lagna. Its Zodiac Sign is: 1 --- Mesha

(Aries) It is: ====> Movable ===> Odd . This Planet Motion is : Retrogade . Planet

Inclination is: 20 Degrees and 4 Minutes. The Lord of Kakshya is: Mercury

4. Jupiter a malefic is Lord of 8th

and 11th Houses.

5. Sun -- Benefic -- Debilitated (Neecha) is Lord of 4th House.

6. Venus – Malefic is the lord of 1st and 4th houses.

7. Where ever Saturn resides, he rules that House and Sign. Saturn is in 12th

. Saturn

(Retrogade) -- A Neutral -- Debilitated (Neecha) is the Lord of 9th & 10

th Houses. According

to BSP rules, Saturn spoils or destroys or activates 1st (house owned by Venus) house

and creates ups & downs in 3rd

house. In Navamasa, Saturn is in 7th

house, conjoined

with Venus.



Based on the analysis, the main two planets are MALEFICS. Hence it is very easy to come to

a partial conclusion that the native will have children in late age or will never have ones.




Lord of 5th House


Rashi Mars and Rahu

Mercury is in 6th House, House

owned by Mars. Ketu

Navamsa -- None --

Moon is in 2nd House, house

owned by Mars -- None --

Moon as Lagna Venus

Sun is in 7th House, cojoined by

Mercury and residing in House

owned by Venus. Jupiter

5th House Lord (Mercury) as Lagna -- None --

Saturn is in 7th House, cojoined

with Moon and Jupiter - residing in

house owned by Mars. Venus

Jupiter (Karaka for Children) Venus

Sun is in 7th House, cojoined by

Mercury and residing in House

owned by Venus. Jupiter


In Rashi Chart, Jupiter is in 12th house, house owned by Mars, co-joined with Saturn and

Moon. Jupiter is aspecting 4th , 6

th and 8

th (its OWN) houses.

From Nakshatra perspective, Jupiter is in Bharani – Its Ruler is Venus -- Temperament: Human --

Gender: Masculine -- Purpose: ARTHA With respect to Janma Nakshatra it is : Sampatha Nakshatra - VERY

GOOD



Conclusion

Based on the few examples, it is clear that the Female Native chart plays a vital

role in identifying the possibility of off-springs.

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