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dimitri lorTqifaniZe:
#41 (225) 26.IX-2.X.2012 weli gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: [email protected] fasi 1 lari
`yvelam erTad, 1 oq-
tombers unda gavakeToT arCevani sikeTesa da
borotebas Soris da unda SemovxazoT 41, unda
avirCioT sikvdilsa da sicocxles Soris da un-
da SemovxazoT 41. unda avirCioT, saqarTvelo
civilizebuli saxelmwifo iqneba Tu krimina-
luri xelisuflebis TareSis asparezad qceuli
teritoria da SemovxazoT 41~
biZina ivaniSvili:
Tqveno uwmindesobav, ganrTxmuli var
Tqvens winaSe da imis Tqmas vbedav, rasac vfiqrob da
rasac ganvicdi!
gevedrebi, gadaefare Sens ersa da samwysos da ix-
sen saboloo, garduvali gansacdelisagan.
SSeeaaCCvveennee ddaa aannaaTTeemmaass ggaaddaaeeccii yyoovveellii,,nneebbiissmmiieerrii,, ddiiddiicc ddaa ppaattaarraacc,, eerriicc ddaabbeerriicc,, yyoovveellii,, vviinncc ggaabbeeddaavvss ddaa SSeeeecc-ddeebbaa,, rroomm aarrCCeevvnneebbii ggaaaayyaallbbooss, radgan
xval ukve gvian, Zalian gvian iqneba da maSin verc wyev-
la da veRarc locva veRar gviSvelis...
mapatie, me ugvanos, Tu SegiZlia, mapatie, rom am-
dens vbedav. magram arc Tqven, arc me da arc Cems sam-
Soblos sxva gza aRar gvaqvs.
codvili codvilTa Soris
rezo amaSukeli
saqarTvelos kaTalikos-patriarqs,
uwmindessa da unetaress ilia II-sers sruli legitimuri
ufleba gvaqvs mamakacebis
da bavSvebis xelketebiT
gamaupatiurebeli
`nacmoZraobis~ arCevnebidan
moxsna moviTxovoT!
yvela svani, vinc am
xelisuflebasTan
TanamSromlobs,
moRalatea!
is, rac bolo dReebSi moxda, saxelmwifo gadatrialebis tolfasia
axalgardacvlil
patimrebs cixis
saavadmyofos
morgSi nekrofili
`somexa~ aupatiurebda?
erTaderTi adamiani,
visac xels aZlevda
am saSinelebis
gamomzeureba,
vano merabiSvilia
2008 wlis agvistos omis aqamde ucnobi Sokismomgvreli detalebi
eqskluziuriinterviu general
viaCeslav borisovTan
`irma inaSvilis
likvidacia
yvela qarTveli
moqalaqis
upirvelesi
sazrunavia!~
emzar kviciani:
saerTo gazeTi #41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.2
gazeTi xxelmZRvanelobs TTavisufali ppresis pprincipiT.SesaZloa, aavtoris ppozicia aar eeTanxmebodes rredaqciis aazrs.informaciis ssizusteze ppasuxismgebelia aavtori. ggasaCivrebaSesaZlebelia mmasalis ggamoqveynebidan eerTi kkviris vvadaSi.
Semosuli mmasalebi aavtorebs aar uubrundeba.aamm nniiSSnniiTT aaRRnniiSSnnuulliiaa ssaarreekkllaammoo mmaassaalleebbii..
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`nacionalur moZraobas~ da mTlianadam xelisuflebas ar esmis erTi ubraloram: maT mier aSenebuli yvela xidi, yvelaSenoba, iusticiis Tu policiis yvela sax-li, yvela sastumro, oTxvarskvlavianiTu xuTvarskvlaviani, sasworis erT pina-ze rom dado, meore pinaze ki adamianis er-Ti wveTi cremli rom daapkuro, is erTiwveTi gadaswonis, radgan is erTi wveTimTel samyaros itevs, radgan im erT wveTcremlSi cocxlobs da cxovrobs RmerTi.
`nacionaluri moZraobis~ da mTlianad am xelisuf-
lebis mTeli tragedia imaSi mdgomareobs, rom isini
uRmerToebi arian.
uRmerToebas rom vambob, maincdamainc is ar migu-
lisxmia, araqristianebi arian-meTqi.
ara, araqristianebi ki ara, saerTod uRmerToebi
arian, romlebsac ar swamT araferi da, aqedan gamomdi-
nare, ar gaaCniaT arc moraluri da arc zneobrivi say-
rdeni.
isini tyuilad dadian eklesiebSi, tyuilad iweren
pirjvars, tyuilad iyrian muxls da tyuilad eambore-
bian xolme xelze sasuliero pirebs, romlebic Tavisi
mxridan aseve tyuilad weren amaT pirjvars, tyuilad
aZleven kurTxevas, tyuilad acxeben mirons da tyui-
lad ameorebineben locvis sityvebs.
es farisevluri, amazrzeni rituali erT rames em-
saxureba _ RmerTis da SeTavsebiT xalxis motyuebasac.
viRacebi Zalian cdiloben sazogadoeba uRmerToebis
RvTismosaobasa da saTnoebaSi daarwmunon da amiT ro-
gorme ganumtkicon da SeunarCunon Zalaufleba uRmer-
Toebs.
_ xelisufleba RvTisaa, _ mravalmniS-vnelovnad RaRadeben RvTis msaxurni,Tumca imas ar azusteben, romel xelisuf-lebazea saubari _ gogoriSvilebis, maWa-varianebis, TarxniSvilebisa da maTimsgavsi sxva gamyalbeblebis mier gayal-
bebuli `arCevnebis~ Sedegad mosul xeli-suflebaze?
uRmerToebi arian eseni da amitom hgvanan ali-kva-
liviT TavianT sulier winaprebs gasuli saukunis 30-
iani wlebidan _ bolSevikebs da komkavSirelebs.
uRmerTobas erTi mkrexeluri znesdevs Tan _ roca uRmerTo xar, TviToniwyeb sakuTari ubadruki Tavis gaRmerTe-bas da RmerTis Canacvlebas, rasac avto-maturad mosdevs gadawyvetileba axaliadamianis Seqmnis Sesaxeb.
gasuli saukunis 30-ian wlebSi bolSevikebi da kom-
kavSirelebi mTeli seriozulobiT cdilobdnen am axa-
li jiSis adamianis Seqmnas, Tumca sanam saqmes Seudge-
bodnen, jer 20 milioni adamiani gaJuJes.
am xelisuflebis sulier winaprebs raRac ideolo-
gia mainc hqondaT da am ideologiis Targze cdilobd-
nen axali adamianis moWras, amaT ki, am novatorma bol-
Sevik-komkavSirlebma, ufro pirdapiri da martivi gza
airCies axali adamianis Sesaqmnelad _ ukanalSi cocx-
is tari an prezervatwamocmuli `dubinka~ da axali
adamianic mzad aris!
arada, adamiani RmerTma Seqmna saxed Tvisad da ada-
mianis gadakeTebis yovelgvari mcdeloba RmerTis gaba-
xebis mcdelobaa.
saocari is aris, rom 30-iani wlebis bolSevikebi,
paralelurad nacistebi da faSistebi, adamianis keTil-
dReobis, misi bednierebis saxeliT Cadiodnen warmoud-
geneli masStabebis vandalur saqmeebs _ xocavdnen,
Jletdnen, awamednen, amcirebdnen, imonebdnen, Trgunavd-
nen milionebs.
saqarTvelos sinamdvileSi am saSinelebaTa masSta-
bebi TiTqos mcirea, magram es mxolod erTi SexedviT
_ Tundac im faqtiT, rom 4 milionian mosaxleobas 25
000 patimari da 300 000 probacioneri gvyavs, riTac
evropaSi pirvel adgilze varT, yvelaferia naTqvami.
xandaxan vfiqrob, profesionali sata-nistebi xom ar arian es RmerTgamwyrale-
bi da amitom xom ar iyeneben mkveTrad ga-moxatul satanistur meTodebs da sata-nistur atributikas?
aba, kargad gaixseneT detalebi _ `vardebis revo-
luciad~ wodebuli is `RonisZiebac~ satanisturi ri-
tuali xom ar iyo SemTxveviT?
asea Tu isea, uRmerToebi, SesaniSnavad organize-
bulni, erT Zalad, erT muStad Sekrulni, demokrate-
bad wodebuli ucxoeli uRmerToebis saerTaSoriso
organizaciebisgan zurggamagrebulni, saqarTvelos
amowyvetas da gadagvarebas cdiloben, magram, darwmune-
buli var, araferi gamova am mcdelobidan: _ maTi var-
debi rva weliwadSi cocxad iqca, im cocxad, romli-
Tac eseni am qveynidan unda gaigavon.
da bolos: Cveni sazogadoebis umTavresi Secdoma is
aris, rom uRmerToebs Txoven RvTismosavebiviT moiqc-
nen, ugulo, usisxlo, ufesvo uRmerToebs sTxoven siy-
varuls, TanagrZnobas, Tanadgomas.
arada, uRmerToebma Zalian kargad ici-an, rom uRmerToTa satanuri Zala maT uR-merTobaSia, amitom isini arasodes Seb-rundebian RmerTisken, arasodes moinani-eben gulwrfelad, arasodes ar ityvianuars Zaladobaze da sisastikeze, radganmaT es rom gaakeTon, imwamsve daiSritebada dawydeba is wyaro, saidanac isini vam-pirebiviT isrutaven demonur energias.
es Cven vaZlevT maT uflebas Cveni gadaxsnili Zar-
Rvebidan wovon Cveni sisxli, es Cven vuSverT morCi-
lad zurgs maT Soltebs, Cven vuSverT mkerds maT
tyviebs, Cven vaZlevT uflebas CvenTan erTad Sevidnen
taZarSi da CvenTan erTad gaimeoron locvis sityvebi,
romelTa Sinaarsi da azri maT ar esmiT da arc SeiZ-
leba esmodeT.
es Cven vaZlevT maT saSualebas CvenTan erTad mi-
vidnen arCevnebze da sakuTar uRmerTobas xma misce-
men, rom kvlav gaixangrZlivon Cvenze batonobis uf-
leba...
kviris Canawerebi
gasuli kviris SemaZr-
wunebel ambebs rom vuyu-
rebdi, pirveli, ramac TavSi
gamielva, es iyo: 1 oqtomb-
ris saparlamento arCevne-
bis Semdeg mosulma axalma
xelisuflebam pirveli, rac
unda gaakeTos, es aris sa-yovelTao amnistia.
gamousworebeli recidi-
vistebis, mkvlelebis da sa-
zogadoebisTvis saSiSi dam-
naSaveebis garda yvelani gareT, Tavisuflebaze! _ ai,
es unda iTqvas axali parlamentis pirvelsave sxdoma-
ze, radgan saakaSvilis reJimis sasamarTlos mier gamo-
tanili ganaCenebis umravlesoba, albaT, 80 procenti
mainc, usamarTloa.
saakaSvilis cixeSi gatarebuli erTidRe erT wels udris, erTi weli aT wels,amitom es adamianebi, vinc am sastikma re-
Jimma cixeebSi Cayara, dauyovnebliv, upi-robod gaTavisuflebas imsaxureben.
damnaSave Cinovnikebis gaTavisufleba aucilebelia,
magram aseve aucilebelia jojoxeTSi gamoketili Cve-
ni Tanamemamuleebis gaTavisufleba.
isini patimrebi ki ara am reJimis tyveebi arian.
isini Cvens gamo, Cvens nacvlad sxedan iq.
Cvens gamo da Cvens nacvlad imitom, rom Cven Seve-
gueT, Cven davuxareT Tavi da Cven miveciT saSualeba
am xelisuflebas antihumanuri, antiadamianuri kanone-
biT fexqveS gaeTelaT Cveni Rirseba, Cveni uflebebi,
Cveni Tavisufleba.
Cven am danaSaulis Tanamonawileni varT da, droa,
axla mainc gamovisyidoT es danaSauli...
koka yovelTvis ar moitans wyalsao, _ naTqvamia.
miT umetes, Tu kokiT wyals ki ara, sisxls ezide-
bian.
sisxliT savse koka arCevnebisken mimaval gzaze
gatydao, _ miTxra erTma darbaiselma kacma.
WeSmaritad!
rogor davijero, rom es friad sapativcemulo or-
ganizaciebi _ evroparlamenti, evrosabWo, euTo, gaero,
evropuli saxelmwifoebis, aSS-s administraciebi Tavi-
dan bolomde iseTi gulubryvilo da miamiti adamanebiT
aris dakompleqtebuli, romlebic ver xvdebian saqarT-
velos xelisuflebis mzakvrobebs da vireSmakobebs?
gasul kviras gavrcelebuli Tavzardamcemi kadrebis
Semdeg, sadac asaxul faqtebs kacobriobis winaaRmdeg
mimarTuli danaSulis kvalifikacia SeiZleba mieces,
kidev ra darCa gaurkveveli da gaugebari, zemoTCamoT-
vlili struqturebis warmomadgenlebi kvlav Zvelebu-
rad rom koxtapruwoben da enas rom gviCleqen?
xom cxadze cxadia, ras warmoadgenssaqarTvelos amJaindeli xelisuflebada sinamdvileSi ra saxis, ra formis dara Sinaarsisaa e.w. qarTuli demokra-tia
_ Sua saukuneebis inkvizitoruli meTodebiT aR-
Wurvili, faSisturi elementebiT gajerebuli, sadiz-
miT, maniakaluri sisastikiT gaJRenTili.
yovelive amis Semdeg ra sindisiT, ra moraliT eqo-
magebian viTomda adamianis uflebebis damcvelis, samar-
Tlianobis, humanuri ideebis qomagi es subieqtebi ni-
RabCamoxsnil jalaTebs?
iqmneba STabeWdileba, rom is, rac dRes saqarTve-
loSi xdeba, saerTaSoriso masStabis didi SeTqmule-
baa saqarTvelos da qarTveli xalxis winaaRmdeg, xo-
lo eseni, saqarTvelos xelisuflebad wodebuli es
araraobebi, im saerTaSoriso mafiis sadamsjelo _ sa-
egzekucio razmia, romelic monurad asrulebs Tavisi
ucxoeli bosebis davalebebs?
bbaaRRaaTTeerr aarraabbuullii
qarTvelSi iisev
iRviZebs ccotne!..
am cisqveSeTSi Tumc varT cotani,
davbadebulvarT gana laCrebad, _
qarTvelSi isev iRviZebs cotne
Cveni samSoblos gadasarCenad!...
bindiT avsili dro nisliani
mziT ganaTebul axal dros elis,
moaqvT droSebi gorgasliani, _
gaRviZebuli qarTvlis droSebi...
fexze damdgara amer-iimeri,
sulis Wrilobas Jamic ver kurnavs;
vin Tqva sikvdili qveynad im eris,
vinc gamarjvebis rwmeniT Sekrula!..
damsxvreulia ukuni Rame, _
geyo, mamulo, borkilis zidva,
Seni aRdgomis damdgara Jami,
`hei, vin modis, mand momavlidan?!~
dae, am qveynad yvelam icodes:
davbadebulvarT gana laCrebad,
qarTvelSi isev iRviZebs cotne
Cveni momavlis gadasarCenad!..
Tavmosulelebulni saerTaSoriso masStabiT
RmerTis gambaxeblebi
Tavisufleba tyveebs!
vaxtang xarCilava
3#41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi
mivesalmebi samegrelos!
mivesalmebi zugdids, foTs,
abaSas, senaks, martvils, walen-
jixas, Cxorowyus, xobs!
zugdididan
mivesalmebi afxazeTs!
zugdididan mivesalmebi
mTel saqarTvelos!
zugdididan mivesalmebi Cvens
xalxs, Cvens tanjul patimrebs
mTeli saqarTvelos cixeebsa da
koloniebSi!
Cemo xalxo, mTelisaqarTvelo fexze da-dga. Cven sabolooddavinaxeT saakaSvilisreJimis saxe. amitomdRes me mivmarTav aRS-foTebisgan yalyze Sem-dgar Cvens axalgazr-dobas, Cvens Seuracx-yofil xalxs da, cxa-dia, Cemi mimarTva Cve-ul kalapots veRargahyveba. me mogiwod-ebT sidinjisaken, simS-vidisaken, magram ara -am danaSaulis daviwye-bisaken!
saakaSvilis reJimis mTeli
sisastike swored aq, zugdidSi
igrZnoba yvelaze mZafrad. swo-
red aq, zugdidis centrSi dgas
adamianis damcirebisa da usamar-
Tlobis gansaxiereba - zugdidis
cixe. es cixe nestiania da bin-
Zuri, iq adamianebs awameben.
es cixe TiTqos imisTvis
dgas, rom vinc gabedavs da saa-
kaSvilis reJims da aqaurobaze
gabatonebul erT ojaxs - axa-
laiebis ojaxs daupirispirdeba,
axsovdes, rom am cixeSi jojo-
xeTi elodeba.
imisaTvis, rom adamianebs
dasaWerad sababi gamounaxon,
narkotiks ugdeben utifrad an
raime sxva Sars mosdeben xol-
me, radgan ar awyobT hyavdeT
politikuri patimrebi dasav-
leTis dasanaxad. eseni xom de-
mokratobanas TamaSoben, magram
maTi ukve aRarc dasavleTs sje-
ra.
yvelam naxeT, naxeTda moismineT, ra xdebasaqarTvelos cixeebSi.Tavzardamcemia kadre-bi, rogor awameben,aupatiureben ususurpatimrebs - biWebs da
kacebs! ges-miT, Tqven, esras niSnavs?!fexqveS arisg a T e l i l iadamianis Ri-rseba! es arismTeli erisSeuracxyofa!
rogor argavixseno va-Jas sityvebi„baxtrioni-dan“ – „mTelikaxeTi qceu-la Ciqila-moxdil qala-da“ - amaT un-daT mTeli sa-qarTvelo as-eTad rom aq-cion! amis Sem-deg kidev mou-
Zebnian momxreebi ga-marTlebas saakaSvil-sa da mis xelisufle-bas?!
sinaTle agvinTo, gzebi dag-
vigo da dasavleTisken gagviRo
kario, rom ambobdnen saakaSvi-
lis momxreebi, xom naxes, rom
sinaTle da gzebi ki ara - wame-
ba moitana, qarTveli kacis gau-
patiureba moitana saakaSvilma!
xalxo, unda gavacnobieroT,
rom misi yoveli momxre, TiTo-
euli adamiani, vinc kidev raime
gamarTlebas mouZebnis saakaS-
vils, TviTon iqneba usastikesi
danaSaulis Tanamonawile! amis
Semdeg, vinc am jalaTebs odnav
mainc gaamarTlebs, TviTon iqne-
ba jalaTi!
axla mainc xom sabolood
dainaxavs demokratiuli dasav-
leTi, Tu ras warmoadgens saa-
kaSvili, aqauri ,,demokratiis
Suqura“. axla xom mainc darw-
mundeba, rom am qveyanas jalaTi
marTavs!
rogor SeiZleba, qarTveleb-
ma es sircxvili CamovirecxoT?
saakaSvilic SeSfoTebulia,
magram is mxolod imitomaa SeS-
foTebuli, rom am informaciam
gaJona, ki ar gaJona, pirdapir
amoxeTqa da mTel qveyanas moe-
do. man axla Secdomad da sis-
temis marcxad monaTla yvela
saSineleba, rac sapyrobileebSi
xdeba.
axla xelisuflebis warmo-
madgenlebi erTmaneTis miyole-
biT Tavs imarTleben, rom TiT-
qos raRac gamorCaT, raRac See-
SalaT, magram politikur pasu-
xismgeblobas mainc ar iReben.
araferic ar gamorCaT! araferic
ar SeeSalaT! es yvelaferi maTi
dagegmilia, es yvelaferi maTi
davalebiT xdeboda!
studentebis, Cveni axalgaz-
rdebis protestma moitana is,
rom ori ministri gadadga. maT
Soris erTi baCo axaliaa. axa-
laiebis klans bzari gauCnda,
bzari gauCnda saakaSvilis re-
Jims. magram es ar aris sakmari-
si, es kargad ician Cvenma axal-
gazrdebma da baCo axalaias ga-
samarTlebas moiTxoven.
amaTi pasuxisgebis dRe moax-
lovda, pirveli oqtomberi. mxo-
lod am dRis eSiniaT. imitom
eSiniaT, rom pirveli oqtombris
Semdeg maT kanonis mTeli sim-
kacriT mouwevT pasuxisgeba.
da radgan am dRis cecxliviT
eSiniaT, amitom cdiloben, rom
xalxis aRSfoTeba isev Tavis
sasargeblod gamoiyenon da mas
Tavisi xeliT CaaSlevinon ar-
Cevnebi.
maT arCevnebis eSiniaT, rad-
gan arCevnebis Semdeg xelisuf-
leba xalxis gaxdeba da qveyana-
Si samarTlianobis aRdgena da-
iwyeba. maT kanonis eSiniaT, ami-
tom undaT, rom ukanonoba
xalxs Caadeninon da raime saba-
biT arCevnebis Catareba daniS-
nul dRes SeuZleblad gamo-
acxadon. amitom movikriboT ke-
Tilgoniereba, SevikavoT Tavi
arCevnebamde da Semdeg samarT-
liani kanonis ZaliT vagebinebT
am damnaSaveebs pasuxs.
Tqven xom ar ggoni-aT, rom meti saSinele-ba ara aqvT Cadenili?xalxo, Cven rac vnaxeT,mxolod mcire nawiliamaTi uricxvi umZimesidanaSaulisa.
an aq, samegreloSi ramdeni
danaSauli aqvT Cadenili, Tqven
mainc xom iciT. amaTi xelisuf-
lebis romeli wevri araa gasv-
rili ubinZures danaSaulSi?
vinmes xom ar hgonia, deputati
nacionalebi ar monawileoben
yvela am simxeceSi? isini Tavi-
si xeliT Tu ar awamebdnen usu-
sur adamianebs, samagierod, yve-
la xerxiT ayalbebdnen yvela
arCevnebs Tavis sasargeblod da
amiT gzas uxsnidnen jalaTebs
adamianebis sawameblad.
eseni wlebis ganmavlobaSi
swored am sistemas aSenebdnen,
aSenebdnen Segnebulad, radgan
marto daundoblobasa da Zal-
adobas SeeZlo maTTvis usazRv-
ro Zalauflebisa da keTildRe-
obis motana.
is, rac Cven am dReeb-Si vnaxeT, danaSauliakacobriobis winaSe!
usamarTlobis tyveobaSia
mTeli samegrelo, usamarTlo-
bis tyveobaSia mTeli saqarTve-
lo. dagiTvliaT, ramdeni pati-
maria cixeebsa da koloniebSi
gardacvlili sastiki mopyrobi-
sa an daundobeli gulgrilobis
gamo? es Sewydeba, Cven Sev-
wyvetT amas!
Cven samarTlianobas aRvad-
genT. Cven samarTlian marTlmsa-
julebas davamkvidrebT aq, zug-
didSi, samegreloSi da mTel sa-
qarTveloSi!
kargad davakvirdeT - qurdu-
li samyaro ki damarcxda, magram
igi klanur-mafiozurma xeli-
suflebam Caanacvla. samegreloSi
da gansakuTrebiT zugdidSi Zne-
li misaxvedri ar unda iyos, ra-
zec axla vlaparakob!
ratom unda iyos aqamdeni probacioneri?mxolod imitom, romxelisuflebas imediaqvs, rom probacione-rebsa da maT axlob-lebs Tavis samsaxurSiCaayenebs. magram armoxdeba ase, aRar mox-deba!
bolo dros zogi patimari
gaaTavisufles, raTa arCevnebis
gayalbebaSi gamoiyenon, magram
gana maT ar esmiT, rom saakaSvi-
lis xelisuflebasTan TanamS-
romloba, pirvel rigSi, maTi
Ralatia, vinc patimrobaSi dar-
Ca da cixeebSi itanjeba.
adamianebo, nu moem-saxurebiT naciona-lur moZraobas da axa-laiebis klans, TqvenarafriT ar xarT maT-gan davalebuli!
Tqven maT gaqciespatimrebad, axla ki mo-nebad undaT rom gaqci-on.
mivmarTav probacionerebs: nu
SegeSindebaT maTi, radgan maTi
dro wasulia. gaxsovdeT, rom
mraval Tqgvengans sruliad ka-
nonierad saswrafod unda moexs-
nas pirobiTi sasjelis mZime
borkilebi. gpirdebiT, rom Tqven
damoukidebeli da samarTliani
sasamarTlo gagaTavisuflebT.
adamiani, pirvel rigSi, Tavisuf-
lebisTvis ibadeba, da araferia
imaze saSineli, vidre Tavisuf-
lebis ukanonod warTmeva da Ta-
visuflebiT vaWroba.
** ** **
axla minda isev arCevnebs Se-
vexo, radgan sul cota droa
darCenili 1-el oqtombramde.
rogor SeiZleba arCevnebis
dRes ganze gadgoma, im motiviT,
rom aravis ar emxrobi, im mo-
tiviT, rom aravinaa Seni mosa-
woni. amas Semguebloba da
laCroba hqvia, roca sakuTar
mcire keTildReobas dahkanka-
leb, radgan Tavad kargad xar
mowyobili da sulac ar gadar-
debs arc sxvisi da arc qveynis
bedi.
yuri damigdeT! erT-erTi mTavari ubedure-ba, romelic saakaSvi-lis xelisuflebam Cv-ens qveyanas moutana,aris gulgriloba daganurCevloba.
yvelaze ufro SemaSfoTebe-
li swored isaa, rom am xeli-
suflebis nebiT da gavleniT
mravali adamianisTvis sulerTi
gaxda kargi da cudi, maTTvis
sulerTi gaxda sxvaoba sikeTesa
da borotebas Soris, maTTvis
aRaraa Rirebuli dapirispireba
samarTlianobasa da usamarTlo-
bas Soris.
fragmentebi biZina ivaniSvilisgamosvlis teqstidan
22 seqtembris aqciaze, zugdidSi
4 gv.
4 saerTo gazeTi #41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
ai, es aris damRupveli cal-
keuli adamianisa da, sabolood,
mTeli Cveni sazogadoebisaTvis.
saakaSvilis erT-erTi mTavari
danaSauli xalxisa da qveynis
winaSe aris swored am ganurCev-
lobis, am gulgrilobis damk-
vidreba!
roca adamianisTvissulerTi xdeba, simar-Tlis mxaresaa Tu tyu-ilis, adamiani kargavsmTavars, kargavs adami-anobas.
saakaSvilis xelisufleba
mosvlis dRidanve sikvdils Te-
savs, - girgvliani gaixseneT,
robaqiZe gaixseneT, vazagaSvili
gaixseneT, gamcemliZe gaixseneT,
gaixseneT quCebSi daxvretili
biWebi, gaixseneT siRatakeSi Ca-
vardnili avadmyofi moxucebi da
bavSvebi, romlebsac ufulobis
gamo mkurnaloba ar uweriaT da
sasikvdilod arian ganwiruli!
gaixseneT agvistos omSi am xe-
lisuflebis uunarobisa da laC-
robis gamo daRupuli asobiT
jariskaci da pirdapir bedis
anabara mters Setovebuli Cveni
umweo mosaxleoba, gaixseneT 7
noemberi da 26 maisi, gaixseneT
lopotis xeobaSi mzakvrulad
daxocili Cveni jariskacebi da
Cveni qisti Tanamoqalaqeebi, ga-
ixseniT daujerebeli wamebis,
araadamianuri mopyrobisa da
adamianis Rirsebis Seuracxyo-
fis amsaxveli kadrebi, romle-
bic cixeebSia gadaRebuli da
mTelma saqarTvelom Tavisi Tva-
liT naxa, gaixseneT da dameTan-
xmeT, rom es xelisufleba sikv-
dils Tesavs da borotebas emsa-
xureba!
swored amitom, yve-lam erTad, 1-oqtom-bers unda gavakeToTarCevani sikeTesa daborotebas Soris daunda SemovxazoT 41, un-da avirCioT sikvdil-sa da sicocxles Sorisda unda SemovxazoT 41.unda avirCioT, saqar-Tvelo civilizebulisaxelmwifo iqneba Tukriminaluri xelisuf-lebis TareSis aspare-zad qceuli terito-ria da SemovxazoT 41!me mjera, pirvel oq-tombers mTeli saqar-Tvelo airCevs sicocx-les, sikeTes, momavalsda Semoxazavs 41-s.
3 gv.vesaubrebiT koalicia `̀qqar-
Tuli ocnebis~ politikur mdi-
vans, ekonomikur eqqsperts, pro-
fesor nodar xadurs.
_ batono nodar, xelisuf-
lebis axali programas, moqala-
qeTa dasaqmebisa Tu qveynis eko-
nomikuri potencialis aRorZi-
nebis axal midgomebs, koalicia
`qarTulma ocnebam~ Tavisi xed-
va daupirispira, romelic qveya-
nas realur SesaZleblobebs
sTavazobs, raSi mdgomareobs es
yovelive?
_ saqarTvelo 20 welze me-
tia ibrZvis demokratiuli da
samarTliani saxelmwifo asaSe-
neblad, magram sanacvlod miiRo
erTpirovnuli da uvargisi
mmarTveloba, okupirebuli te-
ritoriebi. usamarTloba da
adamianebis Rirsebis Selaxva,
samarTlebrivi da uflebrivi
mdgomareobis umZimesi krizisi.
xelisuflebis sityvebiTve
rom vTqvaT, gaCnda `gonivruli
eWvi~ imisa, rom dasaqmebis sami-
nistro mxolod dasaqmebisaTvis
Seiqmna da piarisaTvis. xalxis
dasaqmebas ministri ki ar sWir-
deba, amas sWirdeba investorebi-
saTvis xelis Sewyoba, amas
sWirdeba kerZo sakuTrebis dac-
va da isic unda vicodeT, rom
Cveni qveyana aris erT-erT bo-
lo adgilze sakuTrebis ufle-
bis dacvis kuTxiT.
televiziidan Tu sxva media-
saSualebebidan xSirad gvaxsene-
ben, rom saqarTveloSi SesaZle-
belia TxuTmet wuTSi biznesis
dawyeba. oficialurad daregis-
trireba da a.S. imas ki aRar ama-
teben, rom imave dRis bolos
SesaZlebelia es biznesi dagi-
xuron da Ramis 12 saaTze mogi-
wioT notariusis Zebna imisaT-
vis, rom es kerZo biznesi, Tqve-
ni sakuTreba saswrafod vinmes
`aCuqoT~ _ es gaxlavT realo-
ba.
bolo faqtebi, romlebic ax-
laxan gaJRerda, aris is, rom
mcire da saSualo biznesis aso-
ciaciis aRmasrulebeli direq-
tori isakaZe, kaci romelsac
una daecva sxvaTa uflebebi,
sul axlaxan sakuTari qonebis
gareSe darCa. am faqtebis gaTva-
liswinebiT, CvenTvis umTaeresia
is, rom SevqmnaT iseTi pirobe-
bi, romelic saSualebas miscems
xalxs, sakuTari niWi, sakuTari
SesaZleblobebi Tu finansebi
gamoiyenon imisaTvis, rom qveya-
naSi Seiqmnas samuSao adgilebi.
dRes sasamarTlos SeuZlia
15 wuTSi ganixilos 600 gver-
diani dokumenti da ar SeuZlia
ganixilos 3-gverdiani saCivari
imitom, rom pirveli saxelmwi-
fos moTxovnaa, meore kerZo pi-
ris. aseT pirobebSi arcerTi
biznesmeni Cvens qveyanaSi ar Ca-
mova. magaliTebis mosaZebnad
Sors wasvla ar dagvWirdeba.
Tavisuflebis moednidan vidre
CavalT gmirTa moednam-
de, uamravi dawyebuli
investicia gvxvdeba,
romelic dRemde ar
ganxorcielda. is samu-
Sao adgilebi, romle-
bic am teritoraze gan-
xorcielebul investi-
ciebs unda SeeqmnaT, ar
Sedga. es dawesebulebe-
bi iyo univermaRi `Tbi-
lisi~, `imelis~ Senoba,
restorani aragvi, sof-
lis meurneobis saminis-
tros Senoba aris gaCe-
rebuli, ingreva is rac
daiwyes da mcireodeni
aSenda. faqtebiT, 2003 wlis
Semdeg saqarTeloSi 150 000
samuSao adgiliT naklebia vid-
re manamde. amitom, TavisTavad
cxadia, is 800 000 kaci, rome-
lic dRes samuSaos eZebs (ase
daTvala daaqmebis saministrom
umuSevrebi) unda dasaqmdnen
iseT obieqtebze da iseT biznes-
Si, romelic saxelmwifos mier
iqneba daculi da ar eqnebaT Si-
Si imisaa, rom maT am qonebas wa-
arTmeven. dRes biznesgaremo
aris monopolizebuli. xSirad
amboben, rom didi konkurenciaa
saafTiaqo qsels Soris, an ben-
zingasamarT sadgurebs Soris,
magram kargad Tu davakvirdebiT,
davinaxavT, rom maTi fasebi um-
ciresi sizustiTac ki erTnai-
ria, rac imis maCvenebelia, rom
qveyanaSi konkurencia ar arse-
bobs, romelmac ekonomikis gan-
viTareba unda uzrunvelyos Se-
sabamisad, biznesmenebs ufleba
aqvT daCagron Cveulebrivi moqa-
laqeni da Tavs moaxvion maRali
fasebi, dabali xarisxi da is
pirobebi, romelic mxolod maT-
Tvis aris momgebiani, qveynisaT-
vis ki aris absoluturad wage-
biani!
momavalSi Cven gvsurs, rom
ara mxolod saxelmwifos mxri-
dan ar hqondes axal biznes qve-
yanaSi barieri, aramed sxva biz-
nesebis mxrivac ar SeeqmnaT
problemebi, Tundac karteruli
SeTanxmeba. amis dasamyareblad
ki saWiroa SevqmnaT iseTi mode-
lebi, romelic muSaobs evropa-
Si, aSS-s da sxva qveynebSi, ri-
Tac Semdgom Cven mivaRwevT imas,
rom qveyanaSi iqneba konkuren-
tuli garemo, romelic Semd-
gomSi uzrunvelyofs saqarTve-
loSi ekonomikis aRmavlobas.
erT-erTi umTavresi faqto-
ri, romelzedac aseve unda ga-
vamaxviloT yuradReba da aris
asaxuli Cvens programaSi, gax-
lavT is, rom moviZioT gasaRe-
bis bazrebi. dRes biznesmeni
debs fuls iq, saidanac miiRebs
did mogebas, amis xarjze ki qve-
yana zaraldeba. aviRoT Tundac
800 000 pensioneri, romelTa
Semosavalic da xarjic gax-
lavT 100-110 lari. cxadia am
fonze, mxolod Sida bazarze
orientirebuli biznesi ver gan-
viTardeba da amis magaliTia is,
rom miRwevebi, romlebic gvqon-
da 2003 wlamde, Cven davkargeT.
davkargeT imitom, rom veRar ga-
vediT ruseTis bazarze, amis
fonze ki 20 procentiT Semcir-
da soflis meurneobis warmoeba,
ganaxevrebulia naTesi farTobe-
bi.
Cveni samomavlo gegmaa is,
rom saqarTvelos bazari unda
gaxdes msoflios didi bazrebis
nawili an tramplini imisaTvis,
rom am bazrebze SevideT.
evropaSi weliwadSi 16 tri-
lioni dolaris saqoneli iyide-
ba da swored aq unda movxvdeT
Cven. aq yofna CvenTvis umTavre-
sia iseve, rogorc ruseTis ba-
zari. mTeli msoflio imisaTvis
iRvwis, rom moxvdnen ruseTis
bazarze, dRes ki Cveni xeli-
sufleba `venebs iWris~ imisaT-
vis, rom ar undaT aq moxvedra.
xSirad ministrebi gvikiJine-
ben, rom ar sWirdeba Cvens qve-
yanas rusuli bazari imitom,
rom aq rom SevideT qarTuli
Rvinis xarisxi gafuWdeba. es ga-
sagebi ritorikaa, romliTac
dRes ukve aravin tyuvdeba. meo-
re mniSvnelovani nawili Cveni
ekonomikisa aris is, rom unda
gafarTovdes qarTuli bazari
da aRdges qveyanaSi xarisxis
kontroli. bodiSiT, magram sxva
sityvas ver vixmar, dRes saqar-
Tvelo gadagviqcies da aris
`nagvis bazari~, uxarisxo pro-
duqcia, roelic akrZalulia
rom Sevides evropaSi an sxva
Tundac CamorCenil qveynebSi,
Tavisuflad SemoaqvT CvenTan
imitom, rom aris iafi, amitom
es produqtebi konkurencias
uweven Cvens bevr naturalur
da xarisxian produqts, amis
fonze ki gvaqvs ekonomikuri
regresi. yvelaferze sasacilo
ki is gaxlavT, rom evropelebi
gvexvewebian, rom Tu gsurT ev-
ropul bazarze Semosvla, Tqve-
ni produqciis xarisxi gaakont-
roleTo! nuTu amisTvis vinmes
miTiTeba unda gaxdes saWiro?
amas gveubnebian imitom, rom maT
Tavisi momxmarebeli ecodebaT,
Cven ki ar gvecodeba da ar vi-
cavT maT!
amitom es Temac Zalian mniS-
vnelovania ekonomikis Semdgomi
aRmavlobisaTvis. am yvelafers
ki sWirdeba fuli. fuli imi-
saTvis, rom qveyanaSi Camoyalib-
des Sesabamisi infrastruqtura.
evropuli kanonmdeblloba
krZalavs, rom mis bazarze ar
Sevides iseTi produqcia, rom-
lis SeqmnaSi gamoyenebulia, mo-
nuri Sroma! dRes, saqarTvelo-
Si gamoyenebulia monuri Sroma,
winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi warmo-
udgenelia TveSi xelfasi iyos
30 lari! dReSi larad muSaoben
adamianebi!
asevea qalaqadac, bevri ada-
miani muSaobs dilis 8 saaTidan
saRamos 12 saaTamde dReSi 5
larad imitom, rom Sromis
xelSekruleba ar arsebobs, Tu
ar imuSavebs, damqiravebeli ise
gaagdebs bodiSsac ar mouxdis!
amitom, es momenti Semdgom mu-
SaobaSi aucileblad unda ga-
viTvaliswinoT.
mniSvnelovania aseve ekono-
mikuri aRmavlobisaTvis is, rom
erTxel da samudamod Caataros
qveyanam kvleva msoflio bazre-
bis da samudamod SevwyvitoT
uazro eqsperimentebi, `hibridu-
li simindis~, `mamali Zroxebis~
`niangebis~ `mocvis~ da a.S. am
eqsperimentebma zianis meti ara-
feri moutana Cvens qveyanas. er-
Ti ori Tve sapiarod sWirdebo-
daT es yovelive da mere aviwy-
debodaT, is adamianebi ki ro-
melnic endnen xelisuflebas,
dazaraldnen mxolod da banke-
bis pirispir aRmoCndnen vale-
biT `daxunZlulebi~. maTi bedi
dRes aravis ainteresebs. xeli-
sufleba ki kvlav gahkivis, rom
Cvens qveyanaSi weliwadSi `13
Tve~ aris sabanaod kargi da da-
iwyes mSeneblobebi baTumSi, qo-
buleTSi da a.S. biznesmenebi ki
Tu dazaraldebian, aravis ainte-
resebs.
Cven, ekonomikis is mimarTu-
lebebi unda ganvaviTaroT, ro-
melSic sxvas vajobebT. sinamd-
vileSi ki dRes ra xdeba? ise-
Ti STabeWdileba mrCeba, xatova-
nad rom vTqvaT, oci welia
gmirTa moedans gars vuvliT da
wreze davdivarT, ar viciT sad
unda avuxvioT _ es aris dRe-
vandeli Cveni ekonomika! erTi
da igive adgilze davdivarT,
Tanac mojadoebul wreze!
mokled Zalian kreatiuli
mTavroba gvyavs _ ufro sworad
_ gvyavda!
rac Seexeba biZina ivaniS-
vils, is mdidaria, da misi yve-
laze didi simdidrea xalxis
ndoba da siyvaruli, xolo misi
yvelaze didi kapitalia imedi,
romelic man dRes xalxs gauR-
viva.
nino kasraZe
biZina ivaniSvilis yvelaze didi simdidreaxalxis ndoba da siyvaruli, misi yvelaze didi
kapitali ki imedi, romelic xalxs gauRviva
5saerTo gazeTi#41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
televiziiT gavrcelebulma
videokadrebma, romelic qarTul
cixeebSi arsebul mdgomareobas
asaxavda, SokSi Caagdo marto
qarTuli ki ara saerTaSoriso
sazogadoebac. xelisufleba Tavs
imiT imarTlebs, rom Turme ara-
feri scodniaT, rac cixeebSi
xdeboda. xelisuflebis am `ar-
gumentebs~ kategoriulad ar
eTanxmebian uflebadamcvelebi da
advokatebi.
advokat mamuka nozaZis gan-
cxadebiT, aseTi aRmaSfoTebeli
da SemaZrwunebeli faqtebi, rac
dRevandel sasjelaRsrulebis
dawesebulebebSi xdeba, arasdros
yofila.
mamuka nozaZe: am yvela-
ferze, rac axla ase Riad gamo-
aSkaravda, advokatebs, ufleba-
damcvelebs da Jurnalistebs
araerTxel gvisaubria sajarod,
detalebsac aRvwerdiT, Tumca
uSedegod. magaliTad, rogor Ca-
iyvanes morgSi xelfexSekruli
simsivniT daavadebuli patimari
nikoloz mirzaSvili, romelsac
iq fizikurad gauswordnen. aseTi
uamravi faqti SemiZlia davasaxe-
lo, romelsac reagireba ar moh-
yolia. saqmeebs Taroze Semodeb-
dnen xolme.
me am yvelaferSi uS-ualod saqarTvelosprezidents vdeb bra-ls, radgan man miscasasjelaRsrulebis si-stemis TanamSromlebsxelSeuxeblobis garan-tia. imaves vityodi sa-qarTvelos mTavar pr-okurorzec.
murTaz zodelavas uamravi
aseTi saqme aqvs Taroze Semode-
buli. Tundac patimar malxaz ba-
duaSvilis saqme, romelic rus-
Tavis #6 sapyrobilis direq-
torma daviT margebaZem piradad
awama. evrosasamarTlos moTxov-
nis safuZvelze jer kidev sami
wlis win aRiZra ss-is saqme, me-
same wels, rogorc iqna, da-
kiTxes margebaZe oRond mowmis
saxiT, Tumca srulyofilad ma-
inc ar daukiTxavT. am saqmes qve-
mo qarTlis prokuratura iZiebs,
saolqo prokurori miSa abulaZe
Tavad aris kriminali, uamravi
danaSauli aqvs Cadenili da man
ra unda gamoiZios? patimar de-
nis yvarelaSvilis mimarTac aris
araadamianuri da Rirsebis Sem-
laxavi qmedebebi ganxorcielebu-
li, razec xuTi saqmea aRZruli,
magram isinic Tarozea Semodebu-
li. patimari giorgi mazanaSvi-
lic araadamianuri mopyrobis
msxverplia. ase, rom, patimrebis
mimarT aseT amazrzen damokide-
bulebas sistematuri xasiaTi
aqvs~.
advokatis gancxadebiT, pa-
timrebis cema-wamebas erTi miza-
ni hqonda, mixeil saakaSvils da
nacmoZraobas xalxisTvis unda
daenaxvebina, rom, Tu geqnebaT
gansxvavebuli azri, ar iqnebiT
Cveni mona-morCili da protests
ganacxadebT ukanonobisa da usa-
marTlobis winaaRmdeg, dagiWerT
da cixeSi angariSsworebisa da
gaupatiurebis msxverpli gaxde-
biTo. sasjelaRsrulebis #18
dawesebulebaSi (cixis respub-
likuri saavadmyofo) hyoliaT
patimari metsaxelad `somexa~,
romelic `Sekrulia~ dawesebu-
lebis administraciasTan da gar-
dacvlili patimrebis cxedrebs
mas akveTinebdnen. samedicino eqs-
pertebi Turme gvams mxolod ze-
dapirulad Tu daaTvaliereben,
yvela danarCen manipulacias es
`somexa~ axdens. am pirovnebas
aranairi Sexeba ar aqvs paToana-
tomiasTan, is ubralod sameur-
neo nawilSia Caricxuli da kar-
gi reputaciiT ar sargeblobso.
rogorc SevityveT, `somexa~ e.w.
qaTami (mamaTmavali) yofila.
sulxan molaSvilmaTavis erT-erT sagaze-To interviuSi isaub-ra, axalgardacvlilpatimrebs cixis saavad-myofos morgSi aupati-urebeno. mamuka nozaZisTqmiT, swored amitomiyo, momakvdavi patim-rebi sxvebs rom sTxov-dnen, roca movkvdebiT,Cveni cxedari `somexas~xelSi ar CaugdoTo, ga-modis `somexa~ nekro-filic yofila. `some-xas~ yvela sxva sibinZu-resac akeTebinebdnen,patimrebs Sarvlebsxdidnen da emuqrebod-nen `somexa~ gagaupati-urebTo. respondentisgancxadebiT, am saSine-
lebebis Sesaxeb icodasaxalxo damcvelma,prokuraturam, parla-mentis Sesabamisma ko-mitetma, radgan es in-formaciebi ibeWdebo-da presaSi da maTTvi-sac araerTxel miumar-
TavT oficialuri gan-cxadebebiT. am yvela-ferze patimrebi sasa-marTloSic saubrobd-nen.
magaliTad, mosamarTleebis
nino SaraZisa da dimitri gvri-
tiSvilis winaSe ganucxadebiaT
zurab bostoRanaSvilsa da denis
yvarelaSvils, magram maT danaSa-
ulze Tvali daxuWes. im jalaTe-
bis moTxovnis safuZvelze, rom-
lebsac dRes sasamarTlom winas-
wari patimroba Seufarda, yvare-
laSvilsa da bostoRanaSvils
xsenebulma mosamarTleebma admi-
nistraciuli patimroba miusa-
jes.
uamravi jalaTi jer kidev ar
aris dasjili. ar daupatimrebi-
aT mTavari mwameblebi: giorgi av-
sajaniSvili (gldanis #8 sapy-
robile), aleqsi Tolordava
(cixis respublikuri saavadmyo-
fo), zurab bulbulaSvili (sava-
raudod, is dRes gaTavisuflebu-
lia samsaxuridan, Tumca es mis
brals ar amsubuqebs) da kidev
aTeulobiT piri, romlebsac pa-
timrebi xels adebdnen, maT mi-
marT detaluri Cvenebebic hqoni-
aT micemuli. respondentis gan-
cxadebiT, sapatimroebis TanamS-
romelTa 95% kriminalebi arian.
maTi mTavari misia patimrebis wa-
meba, maTi fsiqologiurad, mora-
lurad da fizikurad ganadgure-
ba iyo. swored amitomaa aseTi
xSiri patimrebis sikvdilianoba.
mamuka nozaZe:: `jandacvis
saministro xmas ratom ar iRebs?
sapatimroebSi momuSave eqimebi
zedamxedvelebze uaresi jalaTe-
bi arian, radgan TavianT profe-
siul movaleobas ver asruleben,
patimrebTan uSualo kontaqti
ar aqvT, sapatimros administra-
ciis nebarTviT wyveten ra wama-
li miscen avadmyofs da vis Se-
uxvion Wriloba da vis ara. am
eqimebs profesiuli Rirseba rom
gaaCndeT, gancxadeba unda dawe-
ron da samsaxuridan wamovidnen.
xelisuflebis cremlisRvra,
rom es ar icodnen, aris tyuili.
es informaciebi miwodebuli aqvs
saerTaSoriso organizaciebsac,
evrosasamarTlos uamravi gadawy-
vetileba aqvs gamotanili, sadac
aRwerili iqna qarTul cixeebSi
momxdari araadamianuri faqtebi,
Tavad aSS-is saxelmwifo depar-
tamentmac aRniSna, magram xeli-
suflebam yvelafers wauyrua. sa-
xalxo damcveli roca werda
metnaklebad mkacr daskvnebs, mis
moxsenebas parlamentSi 20-25
deputati Tu eswreboda. nacmoZ-
raobas arasdros ainteresebda
adamianis uflebebi.
* * *
gela nikolaiSvili ar gamo-
ricxavs, rom patriarqis es mo-
wodeba daTa axalaiasa da soso
TofuriZis sapatriarqoSi stum-
robas ukavSirdebodes. saakaSvi-
lis reJimi yvela saqmeSi, maT
Soris eklesiasTan mimarTebaSic
maTraxisa da Taflakveris poli-
tikiT moqmedebs. yvelas kargad
gvaxsovs ZviradRirebuli jipebi
da sxva saCuqrebi eklesiis msa-
xurTaTvis, arc is dagvviwyebia,
eklesiis rigiTi msaxurebi Tu
meufeebi Tavian gamosvlebSi nac-
moZraobis aqtivistebze ufro
didi nacionalebad rom gvevline-
bian da politikur poziciebs
ikaveben. amas sazogadoeba ukve
SeeCvia, magram, roca TviTon
patriarqi akeTebs zogjer iseT
gancxadebebs (romelic, misi az-
riT, simSvidis da balansis dac-
visken aris mimarTuli), riTac,
saboloo jamSi borotad sargeb-
lobs xelisufleba da amas pat-
riarqi ar iTvaliswinebs, buneb-
rivia, ukve patriarqis mimarTac
Cndeba guliswyromao.
gela nikolaiSvili ((uuff-
lleebbaaddaammccvveellii ddaa aaddvvookkaattii)):: `pa-
triarqs vTxov (rogorc rigiT
moqalaqes da mrevlis wevrs
maqvs, albaT, amis ufleba), rom
im biWebis janmrTelobasa da Ta-
visuflebaze mainc izrunos, rom-
lebic misi am mowodebis Sedegad
moxvdnen cixeSi da xelisufle-
bas maTi gaTavisufleba sTxovos.
axla rac Seexeba sapatimro-
ebSi arsebul Semzarav pirobebs
da xelisuflebis Tavis marTle-
bas. cixe, ra Tqma unda kurorti
ar aris, yvela drosa da yvela
qveyanaSi xdeba metnaklebi darR-
vevebi, maT Soris sisastikec,
magram arasdros qceula siste-
mad adamianebis wameba, maT mimarT
Rirsebis Semlaxavi, araadamianu-
ri mopyroba. msgavsi meTodebi
aseTi sistematizebuli da poli-
tikis qvakuTxedad qceuli, ro-
gorc es saqarTveloSi 2006
wlidanaa, anu im periodidan, ro-
ca baCo axalaia sasjelaRsrule-
bis departamentis xelmZRvaneli
gaxda aranair sabWour, postsab-
Wour da faSistur cixeSic ki
ar yofila.~
uflebadamcvelebida advokatebi xSiradsaubrobdnen giorgi av-sajaniSvilis, goga bu-TliaSvilis, zurab bu-lbulaSvilis, aleqsiTolordavas mxridangamoCenil gansakuTre-bul sisastikeze, Tum-ca ratomRac arc erTimaTgani ar daukavebi-aT...
gela nikolaiSvili:: av-
sajaniSvilis saxe xsenebul kad-
rebSic figurirebs, goga buTli-
aSvili dRes lagodexis polici-
is ufrosia, Tolordava sad
is, rac bolo dReebSi moxda, saxelmwifo gadatrialebis tolfasia
erTaderTi adamiani, visac xels aZlevda am
saSinelebis gamomzeureba, vano merabiSvilia
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
internetSi
www.saertogazeti.comSemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-zze
6 gv.
rogor da ranairad aRsdga kvlav ferflidan kaci, romelsac
parlamentSi `adamiani-Calas~ eZaxdnen?
axalgardacvlil patimrebs cixis saavadmyofos morgSi
nekrofili `somexa~ aupatiurebda?
6 saerTo gazeTi #41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
aris axla, ver getyviT. maTi nawili
darCa Tanamdebobaze. 21 seqtembers ve-
saubre Cemi dacvis qveS myof patimars,
romelmac miTxra, Cveni wina Sexvedri-
sas, rogorc ki waxvediT, TanamSrom-
lebma sityva-sityviT gamimeores, rac
gelaparakeTo. ase rom advokatTan Sex-
vedris oTaxebSi marto videoTvali ki
ara, mosasmeni aparaturacaa, rac kanon-
darRvevaa. patimari maSin momiyva or-
jer rogor scemes oleg facaciam da
sxva pirebma, vinme vaxom, vinme maxom,
romelsac zedmetsaxelad `kolonas~
eZaxian, vinme `xonskim~ da angom. am pa-
timars damuqrebian, Sen aq ras bozob,
Cemi misamarTiTac SeuginebiaT, eg vin
aris, ar ici, rom es xelSeuxebeli
sistemaa, WkuiT iyavi, Torem gagaupati-
urebT da `qaTmad~ gaqcevTo. `kolona~,
ango, `xonski da avsajaniSvili isev iq
muSaoben da patimrebs emuqrebian, xom
ar ggoniaT es ambavi didxans gagrZel-
deba, naxavT, arCevnebis Semdeg rac mo-
givaTo. wesiT, isini im saknebSi unda
isxdnen, romlebsac zedamxedveloben,
unda gasamarTldnen wamebis, araadamia-
nuri da Rirsebis Semlaxavi mopyrobis-
Tvis. rac Seexeba maT xelmZRvanelobas,
maT amis garda sxva braldebac waeyene-
baT. es brali maT uproblemod daudas-
turdebaT. ukve damikavSirdnen rusTa-
vis #16 koloniidan, rom 600 pati-
mars aqvs gancxadeba dawerili konkre-
tuli wamebis faqtebis Sesaxeb, anu ar-
sebobs 600 Cveneba. zogs dasaWerad
erT Cvenebas akmareben xolme da amdeni
Cveneba ar aris sakmarisi? warmomidge-
nia, am xalxs rom dakiTxaven, ramdeni
saSineli faqti gamomzeurdeba, es aris
gansakuTrebiT mZime xasiaTis danaSau-
li, romelic 15-17-wlian patimrobas
iTvaliswinebs.
levan CitaZe ((mmooZZrraaoobbaa `̀aarraass~~
lliiddeerrii)):: `dasakavebeli da dasakiTxia
yvela, visac patimrebi cema-wamebasa
da araadaminur mopyrobaSi adanaSau-
leben, magram am xelisuflebis piro-
bebSi es mainc ar moxdeba. me SemiZlia
vaxseno levan leJava (qsnis #15 da-
wesebulebis TanamSromeli), romelic
cnobili jalaTi da mkvlelia, isic
aupatiurebs patimrebs. Cven araerTi
werili gvaqvs miRebuli am dawesebu-
lebidan, bolos patimar ovanovis we-
rili miviReT, romelic pirdapir
adebs xels leJavas da kidev xuT
pirs, rom isini mas aupatiurebdnen,
oRond Cven amis damadasturebeli vi-
deomasala ar gagvaCnia. gaupatiureba
marto gldanis cixeSi ki ara, yvel-
gan xdeboda. 2003 wlis Semdeg, rac
es xelisufleba movida, maT daiwyes
gaupatiurebis sezoni yvela cixeSi.
ase rom es tragedia araxalia, ubra-
lod siaxlea is kadrebi, romelmac
SeZra mTeli sazogadoeba.
__ ddaakkaavveebbuullii aakkoobbiiaa TTaavviiss CCvveenneebbaaSSii
aaccxxaaddeebbss,, rroomm TTiiTTqqooss aamm kkaaddrreebbss SSaarr-
vvlliiss RRiillzzee mmiimmaaggrreebbuullii ffaarruullii kkaammee-
rriiTT iiRReebbddaa,, llaaddoo bbeedduukkaaZZee kkii aammttkkii-
cceebbss,, rroomm mmaass ooffiicciiaalluurraadd aavvaalleebbddnneenn
aamm ssiibbiinnZZuurreeeebbiiss ggaaddaaRReebbaass.. rraammddeennaadd
ddaammaajjeerreebbeelliiaa ppoolliicciiiiss jjuurrRRmmuulleebbSSii
mmiiRReebbuullii CCvveenneebbaa??
_ erTi ram aris cxadze cxadi, rom
adamiani, romelic msgavs samsaxurSia
dasaqmebuli da piradad baCo axalaias
dakveTas asrulebs, ase martivad ver
datovebda samsaxurs, ufro zustad ar
daatovebinebdnen. Tu vinme mainc toveb-
da, mas aucileblad `asufTavebdnen~. es
`aCistka~ yvelas mimarT xdeboda. xSir
SemTxvevaSi, uSiSroebis samsaxuri,
rogorc wesi, maT ise `amuSavebs~
(sxvadasxva preparatebs ukeTeben), rom
SeiZleba gamoadebilon adamiani. es
standarti samwuxarod, yvela iseT qve-
yanaSia danergili, rogoric saqarTve-
loa, anu tiranul da avtokratiul
qveynebSi, sadac xelisufleba sCadis
danaSauls, rac saxelwifo saidumlo-
ebad iTvleba. yvela, vinc am danaSau-
lis Tanamonawile, monawile Tu Sems-
rulebelia, bolomde iq rCeba. an rCe-
ba am samsaxurSi, an mas klaven, iseve,
rogorc patimrebs, Tu isini saqmidan
CamoSorebas moindomeben. erTi sityviT,
lado bedukaZes aucileblad dasWirde-
boda vinme seriozuli, gavleniani fi-
gura, romelic uzrunvelyofda samsa-
xuridan mis usafrTxo wamosvlas, vi-
deomasalebis SenarCunebas, qveynis Sig-
niT usafrTxo gadaadgilebas da sabo-
loo jamSi ucxoeTSi usafrTxo gamg-
zavrebas, saidanac is gaavrcelebda am
videokadrebs. erTaderTi adamiani am
xelisuflebaSi, visac yvelaze metad
surda, awyobda da SeeZlo am videokad-
rebis gavrceleba, aris vano merabiSvi-
li.
__ mmaass rraattoomm uunnddaa hhqqoonnooddaa eess ssuurr-
vviillii??
_ merabiSvilma dakargayvelanairi Zalaufleba,yvelaferi CamoarTves, misireitingi daeca nuls qve-moT. misi TiToeuli inter-viu reitingis dacemis sa-
fuZvelia. sabol-oo jamSi, is gax-da adamiani-Calada asec moixsenie-ben saparlamen-to umravlesoba-Sic ki. man dakar-ga biznesi, gavle-na, avtoriteti,arada manamde sa-akaSvilze ufromagari iyo, qvey-nis xerxemlad iT-vleboda da ucebumniSvnelo figu-rad iqca.
am yvelafers SesaZloa, gavlena mo-
exdina bedukaZis saqmesTan dakavSire-
biT. axalaiebi amas, ra Tqma unda ver
da ar dauSvebdnen, miT umetes, rom
rodesac bedukaZe am yvelafers iRebda
kud-is ufrosi daTa axalaia iyo, baCo
axalaias Seqmnilia is amazrzeni siste-
ma sasjelaRsrulebis sistemaSi da me-
rec TviTon akontrolebda. isini, ra
Tqma unda, sakuTar Tavs safrTxeSi ar
Caigdebden, adeiSvili da bokeria am
yvelafris miCqmalvas axdendnen, anu
erTaderTi adamiani, visac awyobda am
yvelafris gamomzeureba, gamodis, rom
aris vano merabiSvili.
manana suxiSvili
5 gv.
yvelaferi raRaciT iwyeba...
biZina ivaniSvilis politikaSi Semos-
vlis pirveli dReebi Tamaz TamazaSvilis
daWeriT daiwyo.
es iyo pirveli dartyma, romelic am
xelisuflebam biZina ivaniSvils miayena.
samizne zustad iyo SerCeuli _ Ta-
maz TamazaSvili ivaniSvilis uaxloesi
adamianis, saqvelmoqmedo fond `qarTus~
prezidentis, irakli RaribaSvilis, si-
mamri iyo.
rogorc Cans, xelisufleba fiqrobda,
rom irakli RaribaSvils aiZulebdnen
TamazaSvilis gaTavisuflebis fasad iva-
niSvilis gundi daetovebina, riTac iva-
niSvilis maSin jer kidev mcirericxovan
garemocvaSi pirveli bzari gaCndeboda
da gundi rRvevas da daSlas daiwyebda.
xelisufleba ise Cqarobda dasaxuli
gegmis ganxorcielebas, rom Tamaz Tama-
zaSvilis dasakaveblad sxva veraferi mo-
ifiqres, _ avtomanqanaSi Zveli, daJangu-
li avtomati Caudes da iaraRis ukano-
nod tarebis braldebiT daiWires.
operaciis damgegmavebs TamazaSvils,
CiniT policiis generals, saqarTvelos
teritoriuli mTlianobisTvis yvela
brZolis monawiles, ratom unda etare-
bina iaraRi ukanonod, roca mas iaraRis
tarebis ufleba kanoniT hqonda?
xelisuflebam irakli RaribaSvilTan
pirveli mesiji afrina _ Tu ginda, rom
Seni simamri xvalve gavaTavisufloT,
ivaniSvilisgan unda wamoxvideo.
faqtobrivad, xelisflebamTamaz TamazaSvili mZevladaiyvana da mis siZes gamosasyi-dis saxiT ivaniSvilTan kavSi-ris gawyvetas anu RalatsTxovda.
adamianebis gatexvis da daTrgunvisT-
vis uzneo, araadamianuri meTodebis gamo-
yenebaSi daxelovnebul `nacmoZraobas~
da mis liders alRom da intuiciam um-
tyuna.
_ araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar wamoxvide
ivaniSvilisgan... me vijdebi aq imdeni xa-
ni, ramdeni xanic iqneba saWiro, Sen ki
iyavi iq, sadac unda iyoo _ SemouTvala
TamazaSvilma siZes.
TamazaSvilma SesaniSnavad icoda, ras
warmoadgens saakaSvilis cixe, icoda,
risi Cadena SeuZlia SurisZiebis, anga-
riSsworebis surviliT Sepyrobil saa-
kaSvils, icoda, rogor sastikad uswor-
debian saakaSvilis jojoxeTSi yvelas,
vinc gabedavs da Tavs ar dauxris am fa-
Sistur reJims.
TamazaSvilma SesaniSnavadicoda, ra riskze midioda, Se-saniSnavad icoda, rom saakaS-vilis cixeSi mis sicocxlesyovel wuTs safrTxe emuqre-boda, magram mainc ar daixiaukan.
didi saqmisTvis, qveynis in-teresebisTvis Tavganwirvada Tavdadeba hqvia imas, racTamaz TamazaSvilma gaakeTa.
rogorc werilis dasawyisSi vTqvi,
yvelaferi raRaciT iwyeba.
`qarTuli ocnebis~ pirveli mtkice
nabijebi, romelic Semdeg grandiozul
saxalxo-erovnul moZraobaSi gadaizar-
da, Tamaz TamazaSvilis TavdadebiTa da
TavganwirviT daiwyo...
ai, maSin Tamaz TamazaSvils sulmok-
leoba rom gamoeCina da piradi Tavisuf-
leba qveynis TavisuflebisTvis brZola-
ze uaris TqmaSi gaecvala aravin icis,
rogor gagrZeldeboda movlenebi.
mTavaria, Tavganwirvis pirveli maga-
liTi aCvenos viRacam, pirvels ki auci-
leblad mohyveba meore, Semdeg _ mesame,
meoTxe da ase usasrulod.
Tamaz TamazaSvili krimina-li ki ara gmiria da mas am gmi-robisTvis qarTveli xalxis-gan didi madloba da pativis-cema ekuTvnis.
giorgi gamezardaSvili
P.S. eerrTTmmaa nnaaccnnoobbmmaa mmiiaammbboo:: iiss ddrrooaa,,
bbaattoonnmmaa bbiiZZiinnaamm ppoolliittiikkaaSSii mmoossvvlliiss ggaann-
ccxxaaddeebbaa ggaaaakkeeTTaa..
mmiiss kkaabbiinneettSSii vvzziivvaarrTT ddaa vvssaauubbrroobbTT..
aamm ddrrooss vviiRRaacc iinntteelliiggeennttuurrii ggaarreegg-
nnoobbiiss aaxxaallggaazzrrddaa SSeemmoovviiddaa..
__ ggaaiiccaannii,, aaii,, eess aarriiss iirraakkllii RRaarrii-
bbaaSSvviillii,, CCeemmii mmeeggoobbaarrii...... mmee xxoomm vvaammaayyoobb
CCeemmii oojjaaxxiiTT,, mmaaggrraamm iirraakklliiss aarraannaakklleebb
ssaaaammaayyoo oojjaaxxii aaqqvvss...... iirraakklliiss ddaa mmiiss mmee-
uuRRlleess sskkoolliiss aassaakkiiddaann uuyyvvaarrddaaTT eerrTTmmaa-
nneeTTii...... ssaaooccaarrii ssiiyyvvaarruullii ttrriiaalleebbss mmaaTT
oojjaaxxSSii,, ssaaooccaarrii eerrTTssuulloovvnneebbaa ddaa ssaaoo-
ccaarrii ssiiyyvvaarruullii......
CCeemm ggaammoo mmooxxddaa eess yyvveellaaffeerrii,, CCeemm ggaa-
mmoo ddaaiiWWiirreess bbaattoonnii TTaammaazzii,, mmee kkii vveerraa-
ffeerrss vvSSvveellii __ TTqqvvaa bbaattoonnmmaa bbiiZZiinnaamm ddaa
uucceebb ggaaCCuummddaa..
SSeevvxxeeddee,, TTvvaalleebbii ccrreemmlleebbiiTT hhqqoonnddaa
ssaavvssee..
__ mmaappaattiiee,, nneerrvveebbmmaa mmiimmttyyuunnaa __ CCaaiillaa-
ppaarraakkaa bbaattoonnmmaa bbiiZZiinnaamm ddaa uuxxeerrxxuullaadd ggaa-
iiRRiimmaa..
mmee iimm ddRReess bbaattoonnii bbiiZZiinnaass TTvvaalleebbSSii
aabbrrWWyyvviiaalleebbuull iimm ccrreemmlleebbSSii mmTTeellii ssiiss-
rruulliiTT ddaavviinnaaxxee mmiissii kkeeTTiillSSoobbiilluurrii
bbuunneebbaa ddaa aaddaammiiaanneebbiissaaddmmii ggaannssaakkuuTTrreebbuullii
ssiiyyvvaarruullii __ aassee ddaaaammTTaavvrraa CCeemmmmaa nnaaccnnoobb-
mmaa TTxxrroobbaa..
CCeemmii mmxxrriiddaann aamm aammbbaavvss eerrTT wwiinnaaddaaddee-
bbaass ddaavvuummaatteebbddii:: aaddaammiiaannuurroobbaa ddaa ssiiyyvvaa-
rruulliiaa iiss ZZaallaa,, rroommeellssaacc bboorrootteebbaa vvee-
rraassooddeess vveerr mmooeerreevvaa ddaa vveerr ddaaaammaarr-
ccxxeebbss......
is, rac bolo dReebSi moxda, saxelmwifo gadatrialebis tolfasia
saakaSvilis piradi patimari, Tamaz TamazaSvili,
kriminali ki ara, gmiria...
7#41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi
realurad vin aris socia-
lur qselSi am mowodebis gamav-
rcelebeli nika TavaZe, ra hqvia
da ra gvaria, vin icis, magram is
im reJimis saxea, romelSic
vcxovrobT, sisxliani da amora-
luri reJimis saxe. is amazrzeni
kadrebi, rac msoflioSi gavr-
celda, erT-erTi Semadgeneli na-
wilia im saSinelebisa, rac yo-
veldRiur normad aqcia adamian-
Ta erTma jgufma, erTma gundma,
romelmac xelSi Caigdo Zalauf-
leba. ara, ki ar Caigdo, xonCiT
miarTves im adamianebma, TviTon
rom ara gaegebodaT da sxvisas
ar ijerebdnen; im adamianebma, am-
Rvreul wyalSi Tevzis dasaWe-
rad Tvalze libri rom gadaik-
res da yurTasmena daixSes; im
adamianebma, romlebmac saxelmwi-
fo gadatrialeba demokratiis
gamarjvebad monaTles da fsiqiu-
rad avadmyofi, maniakaluri ga-
daxrebis fsiqopaTi ki, demokra-
tiis Suqurad; im adamianebma,
romlebmac `nulovani toleran-
toba~, `adgilze likvidacia~ da
`yvelani cixeSi!~ taSiskvriT mi-
iRes; im adamianebma, romlebsac
ar etkinaT sxvisi tkivili da ar
gaiziares sxvisi ubedureba im
wuTebidanve, roca pirveli sisx-
lis wveTi daiRvara Riad, dRi-
siT, mzisiT.
is, rac sazogadoebam sapyro-
bileebSi gamoketili aTasobiT
patimris Sesaxeb mxolod gadmo-
cemiT icoda, bolos da bolos
sakuTari TvaliT ixila da bo-
los da bolos Sesabamisi reaq-
ciac gauCnda, Tumca, mizez-mizez
dos marili yovelTvis aklia.
am amazrzeni danaSaulis da-
farvaSi Tu SekveTaSi sazogado-
ebis mier eWvmitanil prezi-
dents, raRac guli mieca da pre-
tenziac gauCnda, Tu es yvelafe-
ri mxolod erT mizans ar emsa-
xureba, saarCevnod mowyobil si-
binZures, ratom aqamde ar amoi-
Res xmao; gasaocaria, magram igi-
ve pretenzia aqvT calkeul pi-
rebs, maT Soris Jurnalistebs,
rac imaze ufro cudi tonia,
vidre kuTxeSi mimwyvdeuli xe-
lisuflebisa. calkeuli poli-
tikosebisgan braldebis toniT
isic iTqva, maSinve rom gamomze-
urebuliyo es kadrebi da dasaxe-
lebuliyvnen cixis jalaTebi,
araerTi patimari gadarCeboda...
vinaa damnaSave, Tu arc xeli-
sufleba, arc misi monamsaxurebi
da arc saxelisuflebo media ar
dainteresda da 11 aprils rus-
Tavelze, rodesac irma inaSvil-
ma yvelas erTad dauZaxa, mxo-
lod ramdenime aTeuli adamiani
dainteresda im 29 piris vinao-
bis CamoTvliT, romlebic patim-
rebs fizikurad imgvarad Seu-
racxyofdnen rogorc videokad-
rebSi? im CamonaTvalSi swored
is pirebi figurirebdnen, dRes
rom `aRSfoTebas~ imsaxureben
TviT xelisufalTa mxridan,
Tumca, dResac mainc brals umsu-
buqeben (zogi maTgani dakiTxu-
lic ar aris, araTu sisxlis sa-
marTlis saqme iyos aRZruli, es
ki arada, Rirsebis ordenebic
aqvT) da ara wamebis, aramed, ara-
adamianuri mopyrobis muxls uye-
neben...
dRes, roca erTg-
varad sinaTle gamoCn-
da Cabnelebuli gvi-
rabis bolos, nebsiT
Tu uneblied Crdil-
Si aqceven adamians,
romelmac marTla gmi-
robis tolfasi saq-
cieli Caidina, irma
inaSvils, adamians,
romelmac cixeebSi
samudamod CarCenili
Tu sacixod gamzade-
buli saqarTvelos
xsnisTvis sikvdil-si-
cocxlis sasworze
Seagdo sakuTari Tavi,
sakuTari ojaxi da
sakuTari Svilebi...
SeiZleba, viRacas armowondes irma inaSvi-li, viRacas piradi Seu-Tavsebloba hqondesrogorc pirovnebas-Tan, viRacas Surdes ki-dec misi, rogorc pro-fesionali Jurnalis-tisa, magram imis aRia-reba, rom irma inaSvil-ma Jana darkis tolfa-si qmedeba Caidina Zal-ze advilia Tundac civigonebiT magram Tu gu-liT aRiqvam im mimdina-re procesebs, rac amkadrebis Cvenebas mohy-va... nurc is daaviwyde-ba vinmes, rom 26 maisissisxliani darbevis Sem-
deg swored irma inaS-vilma gamoiyvana daTr-gunuli xalxi quCaSi...
rac Seexeba videomasalis ga-
moqveynebas.
irma inaSvili ((bbrriiuusseellii-
ddaann)):: _ `bolo ori dRis ganmav-
lobaSi sxvadasxva adamianebi da
rac ufro gasakviria, Jurnalis-
tebi mekiTxebian, ratom ar gamo-
vaqveyne Cems xelT arsebuli vi-
deomasala ufro adre, ivnisSi,
ivlissa Tu agvistoSi. am kiTx-
vas araerTgzis vupasuxe, magram
saWirod mimaCnia, kidev erTxel
gavakeTo Sesabamisi ganmarteba.
videokadrebi me ivnisis TveSi
movipove. cxadia, jer unda davr-
wmunebuliyavi, rom es kadrebi
ara imitirebuli, aramed, namdvi-
li iyo. saqarTveloSi amas ver
gavakeTebdi, informacias rom ga-
eJona, albaT, xvdebiT, rom ukve
cocxali aRar viqnebodi, xolo
cixeebSi, wamebis faqtebi gaaT-
magdeboda da am videos Sesaxeb
veravin verafers gaigebda... auci-
lebeli iyo videomasalis briu-
selSi gadagzavna. darwmunebuli
var, rom Cemi telefoni isminebo-
da da ismineba... mudmivi TvalTva-
lisa da muqaris obieqti var, ra-
zec araerTgzis ganmicxadebia,
Sesabamisad, me am videokadrebs
sazRvarze ver gadavitandi. unda
momeZebna sando adamiani, rome-
lic arc politikasTan da arc
`obiqtivTan~ kavSirSi ar iyo. ma-
galiTad, mecnieri, romelic di-
di xnis win dagegmil samecniero
konferenciaze miemarTeboda. ase-
Ti kacis moZebnas garkveuli dro
dasWirda. albaT, gesmiT, rom or
dReSi es ver moxerxda. moxerx-
da or kviraSi, magram es kaci mi-
dioda ara briuselSi, aramed,
sul sxva, Soreul qveyanaSi, sa-
dac es videomasala Caitana. Sem-
deg iq, im qveyanaSi (ara or dRe-
Si) moiZebna sxva sando adamiani,
romelsac videomasala gadaeca,
magram samwuxarod, es adamianic
evropis sxva qveyanaSi miemgzav-
reboda, sadac mas ukve me davxv-
di. gamovarTvi videomasala da
briuselSi (kidev erTi qveynis
gavliT) Cavitane. cxadia, zust
marSruts ar vasaxeleb. vxsni
zogad azrs, rom am masalebis Ca-
tanas briuselSi TiTqmis erTi
Tve dasWirda.
Sesabamisi kompetenciis ada-
mianebTan dakavSirebas, videokad-
rebis eqspertizas da mis ara-
falsificirebulobaSi darwmune-
bas, aseve dasWir-
da dro da esec
ver moxerxda or
dReSi.
amasobaSi, br-
iuselSi damouki-
deblad Cavida
lado bedukaZe da
daukavSirda gi-
orgi fofxaZes,
anu axla arse-
bobda mowmec. be-
dukaZis dakavSi-
rebas evroCinov-
nikebTan, misTvis
advokatis ayvanas,
evrostruqtureb-
Si Sexvedrebis
organizebas, sa-
dac is adasturebda zemoxsenebu-
li masalis avtorobas, masalaSi
asaxuli SemaZrwunebuli faqte-
bis ganxilvasa da evrostruqtu-
rebis poziciis Camoyalibebas da-
eTmo mTeli danarCeni dro, seq-
tembris Sua ricxvebamde. amasTan,
mudmivad ganixileboda bedukaZis
meuRlisa da Svilebis usafr-
Txoebis sakiTxi. xom ar daga-
viwydaT, _ Jurnalisti movalea
informacia ise gaavrcelos, rom
adamianTa usafrTxoeba da si-
cocxle daculi iyos.
bedukaZis, anu mTavari mow-
mis, aseve misi advokatisa da ev-
roCinovnikebis TanxmobiT 20 seq-
termbrisTvis daigegma preskon-
ferencia. samwuxarod, am infor-
maciam gaJona (saqarTvelos mud-
mivi warmomadgeneli evrokavSir-
Si salome samadaSvili. mainc
ramdeni samadaSvilia nacmoZrao-
baSi?–m.W) da 18 seqtembers xe-
lisuflebam daiwyo moqmedeba.
Cvenc adekvaturad vimoqmedeT.
danarCeni sazogadoebam icis.
roca saqmeSi Cauxedavi adami-
anebi mekiTxebian, masala adre
ratom ar gamoqveyndao, es (ase
Tu ise) gasagebia, magram roca
profesionali Jurnalistebi uk-
mayofilo toniT mekiTxebian
amas, es Cems gaocebas iwvevs.
vpasuxob: ase rom ar memoqme-
da, arc me viqnebodi cocxali,
savaraudod, arc bedukaZe-fofxa-
Ze da bladaZe da cixeSi wamebe-
bi gaaTmagdeboda.
axla maT minda vupasuxo,
vinc meubneba, ori Tvis win rom
gamoqveynebuliyo masala, SesaZ-
loa, naklebi xalxi momkvdari-
yoo.
Tqve dalocvilebo,naxevari welia Cvens sa-itze videomamxilebe-li masalebi devs TiT-qosda tuberkuloziTgardacvlil patimreb-ze, romlebsac wamebisutyuari niSnebi aqvT.Cvens eTerSi es video-masala mravaljeraanaCvenebi; SarSandeliwlidan Riad vsaubrob,rom cixeebSi mamakacebsxelketebiT aupatiure-ben... eqvsi Tvis ganmav-lobaSi yovel SabaTdRes mitingebs vawyob-diT patimrebis mxarda-saWerad, SarSandeliwlidan viTxovT far-To amnistiis gamocxa-debas... kviraSi xuTjerCvens eTerSi erTi saa-Ti eTmoba patimrebs,naxevari evropa movia-re patimrebis wamebisfaqtebze saubriT... Tupatimrebis bedi gaRel-
vebdaT, am procesebSiratom ar CaerTeT?!rao, naxevari wlis win`obieqtivis~ saitzerom davdeT videomasa-la nawamebi patimrebisSesaxeb, maSin aman araRgaSfoTaT da axlaaRSfoTdiT?!
usamarTlo kritikosebs vur-
Cev, Suri sakuTar gulSi Caaq-
ron, suleluri kiTxvebis dasmas
Tavi daanebon da erTxel mainc
ifiqron xalxsa da samSobloze.~
vinaidan advokatma ganmarta,
rom briuselis sasamarTloSi
sxva qveynis saxelmwifos meTau-
ris winaaRmdeg sarCelis Setana
SeuZlebelia, axali braldebac
gaisma.
__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo iirrmmaa,, rraattoomm
mmooxxddaa aasseeTTii ggaauuggeebbrroobbaa bbrriiuussee-
lliiss ssaassaammaarrTTllooSSii mmiixxeeiill ssaaaa-
kkaaSSvviilliiss wwiinnaaaaRRmmddeegg ssaarrCCeelliiss
SSeettaannaassTTaann ddaakkaavvSSiirreebbiiTT??
irma inaSvili ((bbrriiuusseellii-
ddaann 2233 sseeqqtteemmbbeerrii)):: _ saqme am
etapze ver aRiZvreba moqmedi
prezidentis winaaRmdeg, maSin
belgiis moqalaqe unda iyos erT-
erTi nawamebi patimari, Tumca,
saqmis aRZvra SesaZlebelia im
pirebis mimarT, romlebmac dana-
Sauli Caidines da es pirebi uk-
ve gamoZiebam unda daadginos,
rom aris: saakaSvili, axalaia da
a.S
rac Seexeba qeTevan adamias,
kud-is TanamSromeli, aTasgvar
Worebs rom avrceleben, Tqven
amas nu miaqcevT yuradRebas.
gkocniT da didi madloba yve-
lafrisTvis.
__ iirrmmaa,, aasseevvee ddiidd mmookkiiTTxxvvaass
ggaaddmmooggcceemmTT bbaattoonnii vvaaxxttaanngg xxaarr-
CCiillaavvaassggaann......
_ Cemi sayvareli adamiania ba-
toni vaxtangi, momikiTxeT, vici,
rom gaxarebulia, venacvale ma-
gas! aba, droebiT...~
nika TavaZis mimarTviT da-
viwyeT, romelic axla media-kav-
Sir `obieqtivis~ Jurnalist
ilia CaCibaias gadaswvda.
nika TavaZe: _ `ilia CaCibaia,
xom ar ggonia 2-mde miaRwev bi-
Zina ivaniSvilis qebisTvis da
Jurnalisturi saqmianobiT? re-
voluciebs msxverpli da gmirebi
Wirdeba da Sen unda iyo da Se-
giZlia iamayo, an CvenTan, nacio-
nalur moZraobasTan iTanamSrom-
leb, kontaqtisTvis Jurnal ta-
bulas daukavSirdi, iqaa Cveni
Stabbina, Tu ara ubralod gaqre-
bi.~ (teqsti ucvlelia)
realurad vin aris nika Tava-
Ze, ra hqvia da ra gvaria, vin
icis, magram is im reJimis saxea,
romelSic vcxovrobT, sisxliani
da amoraluri reJimis saxe...
maia WeliZe
`irma inaSvili qveynis usafrTxoebas uqmnis safrTxes
da misi likvidacia yvela qarTveli moqalaqis upirvelesi
sazrunavia!!!! saqarTvelos yvela moqalaqe valdebulia sa-
dac dainaxavs irma inaSvils, misi likvidacia moaxdinos
dRis nebismier dros da nebismier adgilas, nebismieri sa-
SualebiT unda gaiwmindos saqarTvelo irma inaSvilis na-
iri y...ebisgan!!!!~ _ nika TavaZe (teqsti ucvlelia)
`irma inaSvilis likvidacia yvela qarTveli moqalaqis
upirvelesi sazrunavia!~
8 saerTo gazeTi #41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
koalicia `qarTuli ocne-
bis~ axalgazrduli moZraobis
warmomadgeneli uCa kandelaki:
axla roca sazogadoebam
bolomde dainaxa xelisufle-
bis namdvili saxe, na-
cebs dro aRar rCebaT
axali tyuilis mosa-
fiqreblad. amitomac
didi survili aqvT sa-
gangebo mdgomareoba
gamoacxadon qveyanaSi,
aqciebi daarbion da
arCevnebi ramdenime
TviT mainc gadadon.
_ dazustebiT Se-
miZlia vTqva, rom da-
Ta axalaia piradad
avarjiSebs wvevamde-
lebs imaSi, Tu rogor
unda daarbion maT aqcia. da
rogor arbeven isini aqciebs,
es yvelam vnaxeT 7 noembers:
misdevdnen adamianebs sadarba-
zoebamde, gamohyavdaT, scemd-
nen, axlo manZilidan esrodnen
rezinis tyviebs. daundoblad
scemdnen qalebsa da bavSvebs.
ai, aseTi darbevis xerxebs as-
wavlis am wuTebSi daTa axa-
laia wvevamdelebs.
_ sad xdeba es wvrTna da
Tu gaqvT informacia vin kuri-
rebs am wvrTnebs daTa axala-
ias garda?
_ Tavdacvis saministros
teritoriaze da vazianis sam-
xedro bazaSi. daTa axalaia
piradad gascems brZanebebs. mis
kompetenciaSi ar Sedis axal-
wveulebis wvrTna. miT umetes,
ar Sedis mis kompetenciaSi mi-
tingebis daSlis organizeba.
es Sinagan saqmeTa saministros
prerogativaa. zustad saarCev-
nod, da zustad imisaTvis
wvrTnian xalxs, rom Tu saku-
Tari xmebis dasacavad adamia-
nebi quCebSi gamovlen, sasti-
kad daarbion. bolo periodSi
vazianis samxedro bazaze sxva
normativi ar bardeba da sxva
wvrTna ar midis. mxolod er-
Ti saxis wvrTnas gadian: daa-
yeneben jariskacebs erTmaneTis
pirispir, erTi mxare “momi-
tingeebi” arian, meore mxare
“jariskacebi” da daTa axalaia
akontrolebs, rogor arTmeven
wvevamdelebi am davalebas
Tavs. SemiZlia saxelebi da
gvarebi davasaxelo im adamia-
nebis, romlebic daTa axalai-
as meTvalyureobis qveS kuri-
reben am wvrTnebs: durmiSxan
sxilaZe, ramaz beriZe, avTan-
dil kivilaZe da vinme leSka-
Seli. es adamianebi yofili
mxedrionelebi arian. amJa-
mad, saxelmwifo dawesebu-
lebebis dacvis samsaxurSi
muSaoben. Tumca, realurad
baCo da daTa axalaiebis
brZanebebs asruleben.
_ vin mogawodaT es in-
formacia?
_ uSualod im adamianma,
romelsac es mkvlelebi wv-
rTnian. aswavlian sisastikes
da udanaSaulo adamianebis
cemisTvis amzadeben. saer-
Tod, bolo dros, jarSi Za-
lian cudi situaciaa. scemen
da amcireben im jariskacebs,
romlebic sadistur brZanebebs
ar emorCilebian. Seuracxyo-
febs ayeneben wvevamdelebs.
samxedro mosamsaxure, ofice-
ria Tu rigiTi, monis mdgoma-
reobaSi imyofeba. usamarTlo-
bas Tu gaaprotestebs, ukeTes
SemTxvevaSi samsaxurs dakar-
gavs, uares SemTxvevaSi ki,
narkotiks an iaraRs Caudeben
da cixeSi gauSveben. aseTi Si-
Sis, Seuracxyofis, damcirebis
da Rirsebis Selaxvis fonze
uwevT dRevandel samxedroebs
samsaxuri. aRaravis aRar unda
jarSi, yvela gasaqcevad iwevs,
magram bankebidan aqvT
gamotanili kreditebi
da iZulebiT arian am
samsaxurs mijaWvulebi.
am reJimis msxverplia
19 wlis koba maxraSvi-
li, romelsac surda
samxedro nawilis ga-
mocvla da ver moasw-
ro. sami Tve hqonda
darCenili samxedro
samsaxuris dasrulebam-
de. sadisturad iyo na-
cemi. 2007 wels quTai-
sis me-3 brigadis ja-
riskaci levan sonRulaSvili
mokles. isic nacemi iyo da
tyvia zurgidan hqonda monax-
vedri. goris saxmedro hospi-
talSi 35 mowamluli jaris-
kaci daawvines da arc es saq-
mea gamoZiebuli.
kontraqti gauuqmes im
adamianebs, romlebic 2008
wlis agvistos omSi imoyofe-
bodnen. am oficrebma etyoba,
imaze meti icodnen, vidre un-
da scodnodaT. Tu sami jaris-
kaci erTad dgas - aRar lapa-
rakoben. radgan samxedro po-
liciis mTavari amocanaa mos-
mena, dasmena, agenturis Seg-
zavna jarSi. es aris policia
samxedro formaSi. jari darCa
ufunqciod. yvela jariskacis
piradi saqmeebi udevT win. sa-
pensio asakamde misul adami-
ans, egreve Sars moudeben da
agdeben. gauSves polkovniki, _
menaRme, romelsac 30 000
naRmi aqvs Tavisi xeliT amo-
Rebuli da erTi xuTi imdeni
_ Cadebuli. ori kvira uwevda
pensiamde da gaagdes. Tu ar
dawer gancxadebas wamosvlaze,
iseT rames gagiCaliCeben, saci-
xod gagixdian saqmes. magali-
Tad, kadrebSi muSaob? iseT
qaRalds dakargav, rac ar un-
da dakargo. an udisciplobo-
baSi daadanaSauleben wvrilma-
nis gamo. Tu vinme fiqrobs,
rom dRes qarTul jarSi da-
axloebiT igive ar xdeba, rac
qarTul cixeebSi, Zalian cde-
ba!!!
Tamuna keSelava
Ria werili
ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii mmccxxoovvrreebb yyvveellaa
eerroovvnneebbiissaa ddaa ttrraaddiicciiuullii aaRRmmssaarreebb-
lloobbiiss wwaarrmmoommaaddggeennlleebbss,, ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss
TTiiTTooeeuull mmooqqaallaaqqeess!!
dRes saqarTvelo Sinauri, ugunuri xe-
lisuflebis mier ukidures safrTxeSia
da es safrTxe erTnairad emuqreba yove-
live tradiciuls, yvela Cvengans, erovne-
bas, kulturas, sarwmunoebas da winapar-
Ta saflavebs, radgan Cven yvelas erTad
wagvarTves adamianuri kategoriebiT az-
rovnebis, xalxis damonebisa da iolad
marTvis mizniT, qveynis ganviTarebis Se-
saZlebloba.
mogmarTavT yvelas, qarTvels da ara-
qarTvels, dRes yvelas erTnairad gviWirs
da kidev ufro uaresi, win gvelodeba
Tavneba da Cveni morCilebiT Tavgasuli,
eSmakis gzaze Semdgari xelisufleba. ra
xdeba cixeebSi, cixeebs gareT, vis Seswevs
Zala am boroti vampirebis asalagmavad da
xalxis gasaTavisufleblad?
biZina ivaniSvilis xelmZRvanelobiT
gveZleva Sansi mSvidobiani, Tavisufali,
samarTliani arCevnebis gziT yovelgvari
ajanyebis, buntis, Zaladobis, sisxlisRv-
ris gareSe gavaciloT eseni politikur
mousavleTSi.
saarCevno yuTTan misulebma Semovxa-
zoT cifri 41.
gavacnobieroT, rom pirvelidan ori
oqtombris Rames xdeba axali saqarTve-
los dabadeba.
Sromis, omisa da samxedro
Zalebis veterani
polkovniki revaz kiborZaliZe
saxeliTa mamisaTa da ZisaTa
da sulisa wmidisaTa, CvenTan
ars RmerTi!
Cemo tanjulo, mraval Wirva-
ramgamovlilo ero, suliero
Svilno, Zmano da dano.
yvelam kargad uwyiT, rom
dumili ar maxasiaTebs, rameTu
dumiliT RmerTs vRalatobT.
aseve aravisi meSinia, garna mxo-
lod RmrTisa. yovelive maRel-
vebs da mtanjavs, rac sarwmuno-
ebas da Cem qveyanas Seexeba.
swored imitom momiwyves
2004 wlis 12 marti, rom xma-
maRla vambobdi xelisuflebis
saTaveSi ra xrovac modioda.
saqarTvelos yvela saRad mo-
azrovne adamiani SeaZrwuna am
dReebis movlenebma, cixeebSi pa-
timrebis araadamianurma wamebam.
mec vuerTdebi maT. aRSfoTebuli
var imis gamo, rom sazogadoebas
gamoepara e.w. prezidentis sity-
vebi. imdenad gaTavxedebulia sa-
akaSvili, rom mwared dascina na-
wameb patimrebs vano merabiSvil-
Tan da adeiSvilTan saubarSi. ga-
upatiurebuli patimrebis mimarT
Tqva: `iqneb, maT es siamovnebdaT
kideco~. amaze meti amoralizmi
da cinizmi SeiZleba?
patriarqma RmrTismSoblis
Sobis dResaswaulze qadagebis
dros ganacxada: `sircxvilia,
aseTi rameebi sxva qveynebSic xde-
ba da ar SeiZleba amis sajarod
gamotanao~. nacvlad imisa, rom
umkacresad daegmo zRvargadasu-
li sadizmi da yvelaze mTavari is
aris, rom TviTmarqvia prezident-
ma zustad patriarqis warmoTqmu-
li sityvebi gaimeora, roca zar-
zeimiT gaxsna iusticiis saminis-
tro Tavis momxre mcire jgufis
TandaswrebiT, romlebic mas ap-
lodismentebiT ajildoebdnen.
patimrebis mimarT ganxorcie-
lebuli amazrzeni qmedebis gaJ-
Rereba iyo jalaTebis mxileba.
me vacxadeb, roca vinme RvTismg-
mob saqciels Cadis, is unda da-
igmos mxilebiT. me rogorc vxe-
dav, patriarqi da saakaSvili,
rogorc yovelTvis, axlac Sex-
matkbilebulad moqmedeben.
am samarcxvino laqas Cveni
eri saukuneebiT ver Camoi-
recxavs. am sadizmiT yvela qar-
Tvels ahyares pativi. emociebs
ver viokeb. vwuxvar, xanSi Sesu-
li, 5 wliani patimrobagamovli-
li da amJamad janmrTelobaSer-
yeuli ver vdgevar im axalgazr-
debTan, romlebic Cven saamayo
momavals warmoadgenen. TanagrZ-
nobiT, locviTa da vedrebiT me
maT gverdiT vimyofebi.
swored am dReebSi dagvemxo
Tavs yvelaferi, axla mainc ga-
viRviZoT _ qarTvelebo!
demokratiis Suqura prezide-
nti usircxvilod acxadebs _
aRSfoTebuli var, araferi vico-
dio, iqneb Seexeda qveynis pir-
vel pirs pirquS dilegebSi da
maTi mdgomareoba gaeziarebina,
magram es arc saakaSvils stkiva,
mSvenivrad erToba, arc axalaias,
rameTu is bunebiT kacTmoZulea.
rogorc giorgi CixlaZis advo-
katma ganacxada, am naZiralas da-
ugegmavs Tavdadebuli mamuliSvi-
lis akademikos guram SaraZis
mkvleloba. axla mainc aCvenon is
kadrebi, romelic devs inter-
netSi, Tu rogor sadisturad
uswordeba axalaia Cveni darbe-
vis dros `dubinkiT~ moxucebul
qals. gTxovT gaixsenoT mowode-
bebi. im dros, roca es kaciWami-
ebi xelisuflebaSi modiodnen,
maSin marto me Cemi mrevliT
vmarTavdiT aqciebs mTavrobisa
Tu `Tavisuflebis institutis~
win. Tqven maSin ar gjerodaT,
rom es giJebi marTla modiodnen
xelisuflebaSi.
saakaSvils rom cota goneba
hqondes SerCenili, muxlmoyri-
li Sendobas unda, Txovdes ers.
Tumca moraluri TvalsazrisiT,
saakaSvili aRar aris saqarTve-
los prezidenti.
samwuxarod da savalalod
unda vaRiaroT, rom patriarqi
marTvadia xelisuflebisgan. ad-
rec da dResac, rasac undaT imas
akeTebdnen eris sazianod.
patriarqi, romelic damouki-
deblad ver iRebs gadawyvetile-
bebs da saakaSvils uyurebs Tva-
lebSi, roca erisa da beris be-
di sasworze devs da Svelas
iTxovs, sapatriarqoSi aris ise-
Ti meufeebi, romelTac marTlac
awuxebT samSoblos bedi, miscen
moxucebul patriarqs dasvenebis,
locvis da sinanulis saSualeba
da dadgnen isini, vinc ityvis
WeSmarit, gabedul, eris sasar-
geblo sityvas, ar iqneba sxvaze
damokidebuli, romelic imeds
Causaxavs morwmuneebs.
minda gamcnoT, rom am dReeb-
Si saakaSvili moawyobs did
provokacias, yvelafers daabra-
lebs ivaniSvils da `qarTuli
ocnebis~ warmomadgenlebs, viTom
ruseTTan arian Sekrulni da ko-
alicia `qarTuli ocneba~ geg-
mavda saxelmwifo gadatriale-
bas.
sajarod vacxadeb: dRes qve-
yanas droebiT marTavs amoralu-
ri, jalaTi xelisufleba. amitom
qarTvelma erma mxolod erTa-
derTi moTxovna unda daayenos:
`saakaSvili wavides Tavisi ban-
diT!~ sxva moTxovnebi meorexa-
risxovania, rameTu, sanam xeli-
suflebaSi Tundac erTi `sareve-
la~ darCeba, isic saSiSia momav-
lisTvis.
vlocav yvela students, ax-
algazrdas, vinc am dReebSi Tav-
ganwiruli idga da idgeba simar-
Tlis sadarajoze.
mivendoT ufals, vevedroT
yovladwminda RvTismSobels da
yvelafers SevZlebT!
RmerTma daglocoT!
gldanis iveriis
yovladwmida RmrTismSoblis
eklesiis winamZRvris
mama basil mkalaviSvilis
mimarTva qarTvel ers!
vin avarjiSebs aqciebis dasarbevad wvevamdelebs
da risTvis amzadeben jars?
9saerTo gazeTi#41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
gmirobidan kvazigmirobamdesaubrebi zaza SaTiriSvilTan `iqneb, akvanSi is yrma wevs,
visic ar iTqmis saxeli,
visac dRe-da-Ram hnatrulobs
Cumis natvriTa qarTveli?~
iilliiaa
2266 mmaaiissiiss jjaallaaTTii __
wwaarrmmaavvaallii ssaaaakkaaSSvviillii
vin aris gmiri? _ winamZRo-
li, vinc waruZRvis wina ersa.
gmiri amave dros aris is, visac
farTo masebis mobilizeba SeuZ-
lia. vin iyo mixeil saakaSvili
gorSi? _ aq Cven davinaxeT ada-
mianis warmavaloba. arsebobs Za-
laufleba, magram Zalauflebis
matarebeli adamiani absolutu-
rad warmavalia. am SemTxvevaSi,
Cven, davinaxeT yofierebis
autaneli simsubuqe. davinaxeT
ara ubralod is, rom saakaSvi-
lic adamiania, aramed
isic, Tu rogori warmava-
lia yvelaferi da rogor
qreba adamianis amqveyniuri
dideba.
zogadad, axlandeli
xelisufleba zustad igi-
ve Secdomas uSvebs, rasac
komunistebi akeTebdnen _
isini totalurad lan-
ZRavdnen gamsaxurdias. ax-
lac asea ivaniSvils lan-
ZRaven, magram amiT piriqiT
piars ukeTeben. nino bur-
janaZes hqonda gmirobis
wamebi. magaliTad, 2009
wlis 6 maiss igi Svileb-
Tan erTad policiasTan
idga. saakaSvili amas vera-
sodes gaakeTebda. erTi wa-
miT warmovidginoT, saa-
kaSvili am viTarebaSi da
maSinve naTeli gaxdeba, igi sad
idgeboda. erTxel SevardnaZem
Tqva prezidentoba da laCroba
erTmaneTTan SeuTavsebeli Tvi-
sebaao. absoluturad sworia.
burjanaZis saxels ukavSirdeba
26 maisic. 26 maisi aris msxver-
pli, magram sadac msxverplia,
iq aris jalaTi. anu burjanaZem
dagvanaxa, rom miSa jalaTia da
marTlac miSa jalaTad iqca.
burjanaZem saakaSvils 26 maiss
niRabi Camoxsna.
yyooffiillii mmeessiiiiss
aappookkaalliiffssuurr
vvnneebbeebbSSii ddaabbrruunneebbaa
ddaa iivvaanniiSSvviilliiss
kkeeTTiillddRReeoobbiisskkeenn ssvvllaa
biZina ivaniSvili gmirobis,
mesianuri da esqatologiuri
molodinebis seriozuli Zala
da investiciaa. saakaSvili in-
tuiciiT grZnobs amas da reli-
giur enaze alaparakda, mis leq-
sikonSi gaCnda sityvebi _ wmin-
danebi _ uwmindurebi, sikeTe _
sibnele da a.S. ratom saubrobs
ase? _ igi grZnobs, rom sinam-
dvileSi bolo 20 welia saqar-
TveloSi politikaze ki ara re-
ligiazea laparaki. Am kuTxiT,
SevardnaZe iyo da
aris erTaderTi po-
litikosi, romlisT-
visac mteri ar arse-
bobda, aramed arse-
bobda mxolod part-
niori. am azriT, Se-
vardnaZe qarTul po-
litikaSi erTaderTi
evropuli movlenaa.
saakaSvilma ki yvela-
feri religiur, esqa-
tologiur, apoka-
lifsur vnebebSi da-
abruna. Tanac, saakaSvili gr-
Znobs, rom es mesianisturi, es-
qatologiuri momenti ivaniS-
vilTanaa dakavSirebuli. amitom
ras akeTebs? _ pluss minusiT
cvlis. anu ambobs, rom TviTon
mesiaa, xolo ivaniSvili _ an-
timesia. problema isaa, rom sa-
akaSvili yofili mesiaa, mas
aRaranairi molodini aRar uk-
avSirdeba. aramed, masTan tragi-
kuli molodini asocirdeba _
rom daRvris sisxls, dedas
gvitirebs da a.S. gansxvavebiT,
saakaSvilisgan baton biZinas _
naTeli molodini ukavSireba.
Cemi azriT, gadavdivarT im
etapSi, rodesac prezidentis
`ena~ ukve aRar iqneba. imeds
isic maZlevs, rom am enas iva-
niSvili ar iyenebs. saakaSvil-
Tan Zalian didi religiuri mo-
lodini iyo dakavSirebuli da
man es yvelaferi damarxa, gansa-
kuTrebiT ki omis SedegebiT _
yvelani mivxvdiT, rom davkar-
geT, Tanac SeiZleba ise, ro-
gorc tao-klarjeTi. aq saubari
maqvs mexsierebaze. roca es ime-
di daikarga, gaCnda sul sxva
tipis imedi, rac biZina ivaniS-
vils ukavSirdeba _ ara teri-
toriuli mTlianobis aRdgenis,
aramed keTildReobis. ivaniS-
vils swored is gaaCnia, rac
religiidan politikaSi, socia-
lobaSi gadasasvlelad Zalian
mniSvnelovania, anu, man socia-
luri imedi gaaCina. rac yvela-
ze mTavaria, batoni biZina ara-
sodes laparakobs religiuri
eniT. maqsimumi rasac igi saakaS-
vils uwodebs, esaa _ matyuara,
crupentela. anu biZina ambobs,
rom miSa uwminduri ki ar aris,
aramed adamiania, romelic cudi
menejeria. anu batoni biZina so-
cialur-ekonomikuri eniT saub-
robs. es mniSvnelovani momen-
tia. aqedan gamomdinare, koali-
cia `qarTuli ocnebis~ lideri
ukve sul sxva tipis imeds iZ-
leva _ religiuri, mesianuri
molodinebidan Cven, iseT ime-
debSi gadavalT, rac keTildRe-
obasTan, samarTlianobasTanaa
dakavSirebuli.
vviizziioonneerrii ssaaaakkaaSSvviillii
ddaa kkrriizziissuullii mmaarrTTvviiss
mmeenneejjeerrii iivvaanniiSSvviillii
2266 mmaaiissiiss mmeerree WWaaoobbiisseebbuurrii
ssiiCCuummee iissaaddgguurreebbss.. ddiiddii iimmeedd-
ggaaccrruueebbiiss SSeemmddeegg ppoolliittiikkaaSSii
bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviillii SSeemmooddiiss ddaa
aaccxxaaddeebbss __ ssaammSSoobblloo mmeekkaarrggeebboo-
ddaa ddaa mmiiss ggaaddaassaarrCCeennaadd mmzzaadd vvaarr
yyeellaaffeerrii SSeevvwwiirroooo.. eess ggmmiirroo-
bbaaaa..
ivaniSvilis SemTxvevaSi gmi-
robis oreuli gamoisaxa, magram
meore mxriv igi Cveulebrivi
adamiania. igi xalxis wiaRidan
gamosuli adamiania, romelmac
saqarTveloSi `qarTul ocne-
bas~ xorci Seasxa, anu igi aris
suliT-xorcamde qarTve-
li, ubralo adamiani, ro-
melic Zalian warmatebu-
li xdeba. es mniSvnelova-
nia. politikaSi Semovida
Cveulebrivi adamiani, ro-
melsac warmateba miRweu-
li aqvs im ganzomilebiT,
rogorc amas xelisufle-
ba sazRvravs, anu igi mdi-
dari adamiania. Tumca,
rac aseTi adamiani poli-
tikaSi Semovida, xeli-
suflebis ritorika Seic-
vala, am warmatebuls da
mdidars brZola dauwyes
da iZulebulni gaxdnen
TavianTi RirebulebebisT-
vis eRalataT. rogor un-
da moxdes amis diskredi-
tacia?! maTTvis arsebobs
erTaderTi religiuri ena
_ ruseTi borotebaa, amerika _
sikeTe. isev religiaSi vvarde-
biT, saakaSvilisTvis gamosava-
li ar aris. politikaSi ivaniS-
vilis saxiT Semovida adamiani,
romelic xelisuflebis ideali
unda yofiliyo. ra unda daupi-
rispiron am yvelafers? _ ra
Tqma unda, veraferi, garda imi-
sa, rom gaiZaxian _ Tavad arian
momavali, `qarTuli ocneba~ _
warsuli, Tavad arian _ sinaT-
le, `qarTuli ocneba~ _ sibne-
le da a.S. ivaniSvilSi, rome-
lic amavdroulad Cveulebrivi
adamiania, xalxs Zalian serio-
zuli investicia aqvs Cadebuli.
gansxvavebiT saakaSvilisgan, ba-
toni biZina sakuTar Tavs mesi-
anur WrilSi ar ganixilavs.
pirveli mniSvnelovani momenti
isaa, rom batoni biZina, ro-
gorc racionaluri adamiani ise
iqceva _ igi gawonasworebulia,
TiToeul nabijs Tvlis da ar
vardeba egzaltaciaSi, am situ-
aciaSi krizisuli marTvis mene-
jeria. aRsaniSnavia, rom saakaS-
vilisgan gansxvavebiT, igi ar
iqceva rogorc vizioneri. miSa
vizioneria, romelic goris ci-
xes, `vefxistyaosans~, roste-
vans xedavs. igi WeSmarit poet
vizionerad iqca. ivaniSvili
amas racionalur enas, gaTvlebs
upirispirebs, es saocaria.
rraattoomm aarr uunnddaa
vviikkiiTTxxooTT __
vviinn ddaaiiwwyyoo oommii??
omis 2005-2008 wlebis mi-
litaristuli strategia, ri-
torika, taqtika, svla omisken,
Sesaswavlia. xSirad ismis Se-
kiTxva _ vin daiwyo omi? omi
saqarTvelom ki ara, aramed sa-
akaSvilma daiwyo. swored imi-
tom ar unda daisvas es SekiTx-
va, rom aq saakaSvilis sruli
idiotizmi Cans _ mas viRac Seh-
pirda da gaabriyva, darwmunebu-
li var zustad ase moxda. es
SekiTxva imitom ar unda dais-
vas, rom pasuxi Semdegia _ omi
saakaSvilma daiwyo imitom, rom
igi idiotia. man daijera, rom
rusebi cxinvals miscemdnen. am
konteqstidan gamomdinare, ra
Tqma unda, omi saqarTvelos ar
dauwyia. cxinvalSi, mudmivad
saomari situacia iyo _ cxadia,
rom igi Cveni teritoria iyo,
magram jarebi, damatebiTi kon-
tingenti iq saakaSvilma Seiyva-
na. ratom? _ mas viRac dahpir-
da, rom cxinvals dauTmobdnen,
ris Semdegac igi samudamod sa-
qarTvelos prezidenti iqnebo-
da. es iyo Canafiqri. aqedan ga-
momdinare _ Tu saakaSvils ime-
di hqonda, rom ruseTs daamar-
cxebda idiotia, Tu is gaabriy-
ves, miTumetes idiotia.
demagogiiT Sepyrobili
uukkuussttrraatteeggiirreebbuullii
rraammddeennaadd vvaarrTT nnoorrmmaalluurrii
eerrii,, nnoorrmmaalluurrii ssaazzooggaaddooeebbaa,,
rroommeelliicc vviiRRaacc-vviiRRaacceebbiiss `̀ggmmii-
rroobbeebbss~~ aaddvviillaadd vviijjeerreebbTT..
rraattoomm vviiccvvlliiTT ssaakkmmaaoodd xxSSiirraadd
oorriieennttiirreebbss ddaa uurrTTiieerrTTggaammoomm-
rriiccxxaavv ggmmiirreebbss vvuuWWeerrTT mmxxaarrss??!!
es yvelaferi pirobiTia.
msgavsi gmirebi Cvens realobaSi
Cndebodnen imdenad, ramdenadac
saakaSvilis Semdeg Zalian didi
frustracia iyo datovebuli.
saakaSvilma, rogorc WeSmarit-
ma anti-gmirma survilebi da mo-
lodinebi dabada. moxda samarT-
lianobis, keTildReobis, Tana-
medrove evropuli Rirebulebe-
bis mimarT molodinebis imed-
gacrueba. Tavdapirvelad, saa-
kaSvils marTlac ukavSirdebo-
da Zalian seriozuli imedebi,
ise rogorc SevardnaZis Camosv-
las. miSa Tavidan metroSi da-
dioda, mere misi gaucxoeba da-
iwyo, gansakuTrebiT, Jvanias
sikvdilis Semdgom, roca mas
arapopularuli raRacebis ke-
Teba mouwia. Semdeg, bolo 4
weli mudmivad demagogiaSi yof-
na mouxda. es Zalian rTulia,
mudmivi tyuili da demagogia
adamians sulierad angrevs. ra-
sac axla Cven vxedavT _ es dan-
greuli adamiania, romelmac sa-
kuTari Tavi mudmivi demagogiiT
Tavad daangria. mudmivma demago-
giam igi daangria ara rogorc
politikosi, aramed rogorc
adamiani. demagogia Zalauflebis
SesanarCuneblad iyo saWiro.
sxvadasxva xerxebiT xdeba Zala-
uflebis SenarCuneba, pirvel
rigSi esaa mtris xatis Seqmna.
es 37 wlis ritorikaa. faqtob-
rivad, es fsevdo-religiuri ena
gvabrunebs ritorikaSi _ saa-
kaSvili sinaTlea, putini _
sibnele. ai amaSi varT dRemde.
Opozicia ki mtris me-5 kolo-
naa. es absoluturad 37 wlis
ritorika, hitleris ritori-
kaa. faqtobrivad, SevardnaZis
Semdeg absoluturi ukusvla
moxda im TvalsazrisiT, rom
mis dros mteri ar arsebobda.
SevardnaZe, rogorc politiko-
si, mterze ar laparakobda. ami-
tom, rogorc adrec aRvniSne,
SevardnaZe dRemde erTaderT,
namdvil politikosad rCeba. sa-
akaSvilma, Cemda gasaocrad, re-
ligia da miTologia daabruna,
igi fsevdo-religiuri eniT la-
parakobs.
nneettaavv,, vviinn aarriiss
iiss ggmmiirrii??!!
qqaarrTTvveellii kkaaccii mmuuddmmiivvaadd
ggmmiirrss nnaattrroobbss,, ooqqrrooss aakkvvaannss kkii
vveerraa ddaa vveerr mmiivvaaggeenniiTT..
ivaniSvilis SemosvliT si-
tuacia Seicvleba. ratom? _ ga-
momdinare misi menejeruli bu-
nebidan, ivaniSvilSi amis poten-
ciali aris. garda amisa, Tavad
situaciac Secvlilia _ teri-
toriuli mTlianobis aRdgenis
mesianuri molodini daikarga.
aqedan gamomdinare, batoni biZi-
na gveubneba, rom davmarcxdiT.
omi saakaSvilma daiwyo, magram
saqarTvelo damar-
cxda. Cven gvinda
ara egzaltirebu-
li gmiri, aramed
kargi menejeri.
Cven gvinda keTil-
dReoba da samarT-
lianoba. aqedan ga-
momdinare, ivaniS-
vilis saxiT modis
menejeri, romelic
aTwleulebis mere
SeiZleba, rogorc
gmiri, ise Sefas-
des. gmirs distan-
cia sWirdeba. oqros akvani da
bazaleTi qarTveli xalxis ko-
leqtiur aracnobierSi darCeba,
ise rogorc germanelebis ko-
leqtiur aracnobierSi barba-
rosa. qarTveli kacis yovel-
dRiurobaSi Semova is, rom sa-
Wiroa marTva, keTildReoba da
samarTlianoba.
eessaauubbrraa
Tamar SveliZe
10 saerTo gazeTi #41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
`̀ssaaeerrTToo ggaazzeeTTiiss~~ ssttuummaarriiaa
`̀wwiinnaaaaRRmmddeeggoobbiiss mmooZZrraaoobbiiss~~ eerrTT-
eerrTTii lliiddeerrii soso manjaviZe..
__ ssoossoo,, mmooddiiTT,, ssaauubbaarrii iimm
aammaazzrrzzeennii ddaannaaSSaauulleebbrriivvii kkaaddrree-
bbiiTT ddaavviiwwyyooTT,, rraammaacc ffeexxzzee ddaaaayyee-
nnaa yyvveellaa ddaa ggaazzeeTTiiss ffoorrmmaattiiddaann
ggaammoommddiinnaarree,, SSeeZZlleebbiissddaaggvvaarraadd
yyvveellaaffeerrss ggaaddaavvwwvvddeeTT..
_ es reJimi rom kaciWamia
iyo, rac es xelisufleba movida,
mogexsenebaT, mas Semdeg vsaub-
robT amaze, amis mets arafers
akeTebs media-kavSiri `obieqtivi~.
rodesac adamianebi nihilizmiT
iyvnen Sepyrobili, axal kerpad
gaixades absoluturad aranorma-
luri adamiani, romelic, yvelam
icoda, rom aranormaluri iyo,
maT Soris, im politikosebma, ax-
la rom mCqefare opozicionerebi
gaxdnen. politikuri sargeblis
miRebis mizniT, icodnen ra, rom
garkveuli mxardaWera hqonda da
finansuri resursic, mxars uWer-
dnen mas. Semdeg bevri maTgani aR-
moCnda xelisuflebis mowinaaRm-
dege banakSi, bevri ki, ubralod,
muSaobs opoziciaSi Statian
opozicionerad da amisTvis iRebs
finansur anazRaurebas.
Cven unda gavTavisufldeT
`Tavisuflebis institutisa~ da
e.w neoliberalizmis Tavsmoxveu-
li ideologiisa da marTvis sqe-
misagan _ es aris qarTveli xal-
xis amocana, rac gamoixateba kon-
kretul raRacebSi; is gaupatiu-
rebebi, sinamdvileSi, fizikuri
gamoxatulebaa im ideologiuri
mamaTmavlobisa da cvedanobis
ideologiisa, romelsac is ins-
tituti da grantirebuli arasam-
Tavroboebi nergaven, romlebic
axla cdiloben, rom saTaveSi mo-
eqcnen process, TiTqos maTi dam-
saxureba iyos is, ra tipis sain-
formacio garRvevac moxda da
rac Zalze iSviaTia.
__ vviinn uunnddaa mmooeeqqcceess ssaaTTaavveeSSii,,
xxoomm ccxxaaddiiaa,, vviissii ddaammssaaxxuurreebbaaccaaaa......
_ es gakeTda ramdenime adami-
anis sicocxlis riskis fasad,
kvalificiuri muSaobis Sedegad
da sxvaTa Soris, sakuTari finan-
suri resursebis xarjze.
guSin Tqva irma inaSvilma,
rom es aris Cveni saCuqari qar-
Tuli sazogadoebisTviso _ vime-
oreb, es aris Cveni saCuqari qar-
Tuli sazogadoebisTvis.
__ ddrroouullii ssaaCCuuqqaarrii......
_ axla keTili inebon da nu
dauTmoben quCisa da politikur
procesebs aramzadebs. marTla aR-
maSfoTebelia, roca is adamianebi
dganan tribunasTan, romlebic am
reJimis apologetebi iyvnen wle-
bis manZilze da am ideologias
iziarebdnen...
rac Seexeba TviTon reJims _
es reJimi ukve aRar arsebobs da
1 oqtombers moxdeba amis gafor-
meba, magram Cven kvlav mogviwvevs
brZolis gagrZeleba qarTul sa-
zogadoebasTan erTad. vfiqrob,
yvelas esmis, rom msgavsi ram sa-
qarTveloSi veRar Seiqmneba, anu
es koSmari damTavrdeba. terori
dasruldeba, amnistia moxdeba _
es etapia, Tumca, es ar iqneba sa-
boloo gamarjveba. saboloo ga-
marjveba iqneba maSin, roca saqar-
TveloSi Camoyalibdeba erovnu-
li, damoukidebeli mmarTveloba,
romelic dabalansebul da sa-
qarTvelos istoriuli interese-
bis Sesabamis politikas waiyvans.
__ mmiizzeezzTTaa ggaammoo,, xxoomm SSeeiiZZlleebbaa,,
mmaarrTTllaacc iissee wwaarriimmaarrTTooss pprrooccee-
sseebbii,, rroomm aarrsseebbuullii rreeJJiimmiiss mmxxoo-
lloodd ssaaxxeeccvvlliilleebbaa mmiivviiRRooTT..
_ geTanxmebiT, SeiZleba Seic-
valos saxe da kvlav mogvevlinos
axali, Jvanias koncefciis, libe-
rastul, viTom liberalur, neo-
liberalur modifikaciad. es
aris yvelaze saSiSi tendencia.
__ ssaaiiddaann ggeessaaxxeebbaaTT nneeoolliibbeerraa-
lliizzmmiiss ssaaSSiiSSrrooeebbaa..
_ upirvelesad `Tavisufle-
bis institutidan~, ra Tqma unda,
radgan isev bokeria marTavs pro-
cesebs.
__ bbookkeerriiaacc xxoomm mmooyyvveebbaa aamm nnaann-
ggrreevveebbSSii......
_ bokeria unda mohyves nang-
revebSi, `Tavisuflebis institu-
ti~ unda mohyves, zogierTi par-
tia unda moyvnen...
realurad es aris agresiuli
danergva im msofxedvelobisa,
romelic absolutur Seusabamo-
baSia Cvens tradiciul kultu-
rasTan, es aris antitradiciona-
lizmi, es aris antireligiuroba,
es aris igive `mebrZol uRmerTo-
Ta kavSiri~, oRond transformi-
rebuli da saxeSecvlili, es igi-
ve verxovenskis `eSmakSi~ daxa-
tuli personaJebis TareSia po-
litikur scenaze...
Cven gavakeTeT is, rom es re-
Jimi normalurad ganadgurebuli-
yo. kidev gamovaqveynebT da iseT
rameebs, amaT warmodgenac rom ar
aqvT da veRarc SeaCereben imas,
rac agorda. aTasjer vambobdi,
ise unda gavakeToT, rom moralu-
rad gadavtexoT xerxemalSi-Tqo.
__ mmaaxxssoovvss,, aammbboobbddiiTT,, ffiinnaannssuu-
rraadd vveerr mmoovveerreevviiTT,, ZZaalliiTT vveerr
mmoovveerreevviiTT ddaa mmxxoolloodd eess ggzzaa
ddaarrCCaaoo......
_ gaxsovT, xom? – mivulocav
qarTvel xalxs, rom es reJimi
moralurad gadamtvreulia xer-
xemalSi. eseni veRar SeZleben ar-
Cevnebis Sedegebis gayalbebas, ve-
Rar CarTaven meqanizmebs da aRar
daemorCilebian mona-morCilebi,
radgan aRar aqvT evropidan `gap-
ravebis~ aranairi imedi...
is fiule, romelic ivaniS-
vils mouwodebda, quCaSi ar ga-
moxvideo, is saSineli kadrebi
rom naxa, lamis qvebs isroda,
`xmiTa maRliTa yviroda da izax-
da viTarca cofi~...
__ ssaaiinntteerreessooaa,, rraa rreeaaqqcciiaa
hhqqoonnddaa mmiisstteerr mmaakkkkeeiinnss,, bbaattoonnii
ssaaaakkaaSSvviilliiss mmeeggoobbaarrss......
_ magaliTad, makkeins, romel-
sac vietnamSi tyveobisas mag ti-
pis `sitkboeba~ gancdili eqneba.
(iqac kargi wameba ician), axla
masac rom gadavigzavniT, Tavis
megobar mixeilTan A(damtkicdeba,
rom man es yvelaferi icoda) ar-
kvios da mere vnaxoT, rom gagvam-
wara qarTvelebi Tavisi Sefasebe-
biT da aq wanwaliT; masac, mis
lobistebsac, iq, absolutur
usircxviloebs; qalbaton hila-
ris da aucileblad jon bass im
naWrian xelketebsac gadavugzav-
niT da gaxdes axali niurbergi.
am neoliberalebis, am ideologe-
bis niunbergi unda gavmarToT sa-
qarTveloSi, am ideologiam, ro-
gorc faSizmma, ise unda
daasrulos arseboba...
__ kkii,, mmaaggrraamm,, pprreecceeddeenn-
ttii rroomm SSeeiiqqnneess mmooqqmmeeddii
pprreezziiddeennttiiss ttrriibbuunnaallzzee
ggaaddaacceemmiissaa,, aarr SSeeiiZZlleebbaaoo,,
aammaazzee xxoomm iiyyoo ssaauubbaarrii......
_ me, magaliTad, wina-
aRmdegi var, rom saakaS-
vils fizikuri ziani mi-
adges, is unda davapatim-
roT baton bokeriasTan
da baton levan rami-
SvilTan erTad da is me-
re raebs ilaparakebs, na-
xavT. es unda gavakeToT,
unda vamxiloT es ideologia,
eseni unda valaparakoT da xom
iciT, eseni rogor ilaparakeben,
Camofqvaven yvelafers _ es aris
qarTveli xalxis zeamocana.
amas rom vambobdiT, `SuaSis-
tebi~ giJebs gviZaxdnen, zogi _
radikalebs, ras ar gveZaxdnen.
zogierTi viTom opoziciuri ar-
xis Jurnalistebi mebodiSebod-
nen, ra vqnaT, batono sosoo. Cem-
Tvis sasaciloa, srulebiT ar
minda maTi eTeri, me saqmes vake-
Teb da vTvli, rom gavakeTe da
miT umetes, qalbatonma irmam an
daviT Tarxan-mouravma erTi kaci
xom ar itvirTeba, magram `miT
umetes~ imitom vTqvi, rom lomis
wili maT aqvT gakeTebuli...
__ ggaaggrrZZeelleebbaa rraa uunnddaa iiyyooss??
_ zeamocana unda daisvas, ise-
Ti sasamarTlo unda SevqmnaT,
romelic samagaliTo iqneba da
gamovaaSkaraoT mTeli es ideo-
logia, gavigoT, ras nergavdnen,
ra undodaT, ratom gaakeTes es,
ratom daangries ganaTleba – amas
ar sWirdeba kamerebi; jandacva –
meti faqtebi gvaqvs, aTasobiT
adamiania gardacvlili imis gamo,
rom akrZalulia ufulo adamia-
nisTvis pirveladi daxmarebis aR-
moCena. is eqimebi, romlebic amas
xels uwyobdnen, sinauriZeebi da
`Zmani maTni~, sxvadasxva telear-
xebze rom yelyelaoben, isinic
ageben pasuxs, yvelani, vinc am da-
naSaulebriv sistemaze xmas ar
iRebdnen. gamkvirvebia eqimebis,
romlebic gadacemaSi ar modian _
ram SegaSinaT, ra ubedureba
gWirT amanairi, ra samsaxurs ver
TmobT, an ra aris es sicocxle
amnairi!
sxvam sicocxle unda gawiros
_ xom yvelas esmis, amnair in-
formaciaze, nebismier etapze es
rom gamJRavnebuliyo, damTavrde-
boda likvidaciiT, xom?
__ aarr ffiiqqrroobbTT,, rroomm ddaaSSiinnee-
bbuull aaddaammiiaannTTaa kkaatteeggoorriiaa,, aaqqaammddee
uuccnnoobb,, rraaRRaacc ssxxvvaannaaiirr ffeennoommeennaadd
iiqqccaa??
_ saqme imaSia, rom amaT ga-
utkbaT SiSi, SiSSi vneba gauCn-
daT, SiSiT rom caxcaxeben, ara-
jansaR sitkboebas ganicdian. xom
aris gaukuRmarTebul gancdaTa
kompleqsi, ai, amiT daavadmyofd-
nen. eqimi xar, profesori xar _
ras ityuebi, ra Zala gadgas!... am
sacodavebs sasaxleebi aqvT, aTas-
nairi sabanko angariSebi da kidev
eSiniaT _ risTvis ginda eg yve-
laferi, Se marTla ubeduro, Tu
geSinia da caxcaxeb!
__ ssaaiinntteerreessooaa,, aaxxllaa aamm aammbbee-
bbiiss ggaammooaaSSkkaarraavveebbiiss SSeemmddeegg TTuu
ccaaxxccaaxxeebbeenn......
_ ara, axla axali etapia, xom
caxcaxebdnen, axla am caxcaxis
legitimacias axdenen da amboben
ase: `me imitom vcaxcaxebdi, rom
kritikuli situacia iyo~, magram
siamovnebas rom ganicdidnen, am
caxcaxSi da sxvadasxva mavneobebs
sCadiodnen, es aRar axsovT. gamo-
vida skolis direqtori murRu-
lia, eg marTla avadmyofi, rom
ambobda, skolaSi mandaturebi
kargiao, kvesitaZe gamovida, no-
dia, darCiaSvili, TavxeliZe ga-
mova axla aRSfoTebuli...
__ ggaammoovviiddaa uukkvvee......
_ axla CaxvaZe gamovida kidev
_ adamiani, romelic aris yvela
saSineli tendenciis gansaxiereba,
usircxvilobis simbolo, SiSis,
tyuilis simbolo, mivida miting-
ze da sityvis Tqma moindoma, es
zneobas absoluturad acilebu-
li adamiani. rogor SeiZleba Cax-
vaZe mieTrios iq, sadac xalxia,
magram ara aqvT gancda, rom xal-
xi pasuxs mosTxovs romelime
amaTgans. garwmunebT, rom xalxi
yvelas mosTxovs pasuxs, maT So-
ris `qristian-demokratebs~, ro-
melTa saarCevno kampaniam, me
vityodi, rom gadaaWarba yvelas.
usircxvilobasac xom aqvs sazR-
vrebi, amaT raRac axali plasti
Seqmnes, es giorgi TargamaZe da
misi vinc arian, Zalian mZime avad-
myofebi arian. saakaSvils, xom vi-
ciT, rac sWirs da amaT rac
sWirT, axali avadmyofobis axali
saxeobaa, aqamde aRmouCeneli vi-
rusi...
`axali memarjveneebi~ _ ai,
`marTali~ xalxi! am bolo dros
gansakuTrebuli simarTliT mamu-
ka kacitaZe gamoirCeva. me varwmu-
neb, mamuka karg saqciels Caidens
Tavisi TavisTvisac, Tavisi Svi-
lebisTvisac da qveynisTvisac, Tu
gamova da ityvis, rom iZulebiT
gaakeTebines 3 600 000 amomrCev-
lis sia, aRiarebs, rom daaSava,
inaniebs da saqarTveloSi ar
cxovrobs amdeni amomrCeveli. mas
kargi ynosva aqvs, gamoiyenos es
unari, mixvdes, rom veRar gawe-
ren am raodenobis amomrCevels
da codvebs sawyobis gamges moh-
kiTxaven. eg xom iyo komkavSiris
mdivani – batono mamuka, reviziaa
sammarTveloSi da sawyobis gamges
daiWeren!
ara, mainc saidan dawera amde-
ni amomrCeveli, ra Sekriba _
cocxali, mkvdari, Teoriulad
cocxali _ dReebi darCa, gamovi-
des, amxilos eSmaki da elementa-
rulad, aRar daiWeren sawyobis
gamges, Cven xom humanuri xalxi
varT...
__ sswwoorrii cciiffrrii mmaaiinncc ggvviiTTxx-
rraass CCuummaadd......
_ swor cifrs me geubnebiT _
1 mln 800 aTasi _ 2 mln.
movuwodeb Jurnalistebs:
adamiani erTxel rom ityvis tyu-
ils, unda moeTxovos pasuxi; or-
jer rom ityvis _ miT umetes; me-
samejerac rom ityvis, aRar unda
dabeWdoT _ ar SeiZleba, rom
matyuarebisa da aferistebis as-
parezad gadaiqces masobrivi in-
formaciis saSualeba _ saqarTve-
lo ar aris orRobe! Cven unda
SevimuSavoT simarTlis standar-
tebi _ adamiani, romelic mudmi-
vad ityueba, avrcelebs dezin-
formaciebsa da ciliswamebebs, ar
SeiZleba, rom is mudmivad tira-
Jirdebodes sxvadasxva sainforma-
cio saSualebebSi.
maia WeliZe
1 oqtombers araferi ar mTavrdeba _mTavari omi saqarTvelos
gadarCenisTvis 1 oqtombris Semdeg unda daiwyos...
mivulocav qarTvel xalxs, rom es reJimi
moralurad gadamtvreulia xerxemalSi!
11#41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi
vveessaauubbrreebbiiTT kkooaalliicciiaa `̀qqaarrTTuu-
llii ooccnneebbiiss~~ mmTTaawwmmiinnddiiss rraaiioonniiss
mmaaJJoorriittaarrii ddeeppuuttaattoobbiiss kkaannddii-
ddaattss,, bbaattoonn zaza papuaSvils
__ bbaattoonnoo zzaazzaa,, rrooggoorr ffiiqq-
rroobbTT,, xxeelliissuulleebbaass xxeellss aaZZlleevvss
ssaazzooggaaddooeebbiiss aasseeTTii aaqqttiiuurroobbaa aarr-
CCeevvnneebbzzee??
_ cxadia, ara, maT xom patio-
san brZolaSi gamarjvebis Sansi
ara aqvT. maTi koordinatorebi
dadian da xalxs eubnebian, arCev-
nebze ar mixvideTo. kriminalia es
xelisufleba _ isini didi xania,
rac gandevnili arian politikuri
velidan. 2007 wlidan dRemde yve-
la brZola waages sakuTar xalx-
Tan da axla mimarTaven Zaladobas:
gayalbebas, adamianTa daSinebasa da
dapatimrebas _ esaa xalxTan saub-
ris maTi stili. yvelaze didi
ubedureba, rac ki odesme dasty-
domia Tavs saqarTvelos, am xro-
vis qveynis saTaveSi mosvlaa. amas
wertili unda daesvas! is, rasac
es xelisufleba sCadis, borote-
baa; borotebas ki ar unda dauyva-
vo, aramed saZirkveli unda Seur-
yio! principSi, ukve Seryeulicaa,
erTi xelis kvraRaa saWiro da
dasruldeba amaTi parpaSi, radgan,
faqtia, ukve araviTari resursi
aRar gaaCniaT. xom warmogidgeni-
aT, amaT rom gazi an navTobi hqon-
deT, ras izamdnen, ra dReSi Cay-
ridnen xalxs... Tu dRes kidev
vinmes sjera am xelisuflebis, is
ueWvelad daavadebulia. am mxriv
ukve yvela gaiSifra _ eric da
beric, ukve yvelam dado Tavisi
avtoportreti...
__ ee..ii.. mmooxxddaa ssaazzooggaaddooeebbiiss
ssrruullii lluussttrraacciiaa......
_ geTanxmebiT, absoluturi
lustracia moxda da am Temaze
xazgasmiT unda visaubroT: ar Se-
iZleba anafora gecvas, sikeTes qa-
dagebde, erTi xeliT pirjvars
iwerde kriminals da meore xeliT
am ukidegano borotebis msaxuri
da mfarveli iyo.
__ TTqqvveenn bbrrZZaanneeTT,, rroomm xxeellii-
ssuufflleebbaass aarraannaaiirrii rreessuurrssii aaRRaarr
ddaarrCCaa ssaakkuuTTaarr xxaallxxTTaann ddiiaallooggiiss-
TTvviiss,, aammiittoommaacc kkrriimmiinnaalliiss eennaazzee
`̀ggvveessaauubbrreebbaa~~ __ TTuunnddaacc aaxxllaaxxaann
ddaattrriiaalleebbuullii llaaffaannyyuurriiss ttrraa-
ggeeddiiaa ggaavviixxsseennooTT,, mmaaggrraamm,,
rrooggoorrcc aaRRvvnniiSSnneeTT,, aassee TTuu
iissee,, mmaaTT mmaaiinncc hhyyaavvTT mmxxaarrddaamm-
WWeerreebbii.. vviinn aarriiaann iissiinnii:: iiddee-
uurrii mmoommxxrreeeebbii TTuu ddaaSSiinneebbuu-
llii aann ggaayyiidduullii aaddaammiiaanneebbii??
_ es ar aris is adamia-
ni, romelsac SeiZleba ideu-
ri momxreebi hyavdes mosax-
leobaSi _ gamoricxulia. es
ar aris is pirovneba, ro-
melzec, saerTod, seriozu-
lad Rirs laparaki. esaa uaRre-
sad primitiuli movlena da, sam-
wuxarod, qarTvelebis garkveuli
nawilis azrovnebac sakmaod pri-
mitiulia. cxadia, es yvelas ar
exeba, magram, faqtia, rom aseTebic
arian _ ai, swored maTze gaTva-
les saakaSvilma da misma gundma;
ase vTqvaT, primitivebis `gaxedna~
daiwyes. ideuri momxreebi ki ara,
esaa daSinebuli, an merkantiluri
fsiqikis mqone, virTxulad moaz-
rovne xalxi. ra gikvirT, zogierT
qarTvels xom qarTveloba saer-
Tod ar anaRvlebs, zogi imas uyu-
rebs, saiT gadaixreba saswori,
zogierTi Soridan akvirdeba mov-
lenebs, zogi mTeli Tavisi dRe
da moswreba buCqebSia SemZvrali
da mxolod sakuTar keTildReo-
baze fiqrobs _ amas kacebze vam-
bob da, Cvenda Wirad, arcTu co-
ta gvyavs aseTebi, Tumca, RvTis
madliT, arc gulanTebuli, vaJka-
ci, jansaRi fsiqikisa da Rrma az-
rovnebis mqone adamianebi gvaklia,
romlebic sworad aanalizeben
movlenebs. swored es gvWirdeba
axla _ movlenebis Rrma da mecni-
eruli analizi, borotebis saTa-
vis moZieba. es epoqa aucileblad
unda aisaxos xelovnebaSi; yvela-
feri bolomde unda gaiSifros da
unda iTqvas, Tu visTan gvqonda
saqme am xelisuflebis saxiT, vin
aRazeva isini, vin iyvnen maTi ide-
ologebi, ra gegmebi hqondaT xal-
xTan da qveyanasTan dakavSirebiT,
rogor cdilobdnen maradiuli
Rirebulebebis gaufasurebas, ro-
gor igdebdnen masxrad iseT cne-
bebs, rogoricaa vaJkacoba, Rirse-
ba, samSoblos siyvaruli _ amis
droc male mova. male yvelaferi
dalagdeba da kanonier, samarTli-
an qveyanaSi vicxovrebT, sadac
upirvelesi faseuloba adamiani
iqneba.
__ bbaattoonnoo zzaazzaa,, rrooggoorrcc mmTTaaww-
mmiinnddiiss rraaiioonniiss mmaaJJoorriittaarrii ddeeppuu-
ttaattoobbiiss kkaannddiiddaattss,, yyoovveellddRRee
uuaammrraavv aaddaammiiaannTTaa ggaaqqvvTT SSeexxvveeddrraa..
rraa wwaarrmmooaaddggeennss mmTTaawwmmiinnddeelleebbiiss
yyvveellaazzee ddiidd ssaattkkiivvaarrss,, yyvveellaazzee
mmwwvvaavvee pprroobblleemmaass??
_ igive, rac mTel saqarTve-
loSi: xalxi dausaqmebelia, usa-
marTlobis gancda awuxebT _ kar-
gad xedaven, rom kanonebi SerCevi-
Tia; Zalian bevri cxovrobs avari-
ul saxlebSi, romlebic, elemen-
tarulad, safrTxis Semcvelia si-
cocxlisaTvis; bevri saerTod
usaxlkarodaa darCenili, radgan
binebi ipoTekiT datvirTes da
Semdeg dakarges. aris adamianebis
kategoria, romelic daaSines da
fsiqologiurad daTrgunes, swo-
red maTgan ismis es ybadaRebuli
kiTxva: `gveSveleba rame?~ Zalian
bevri problemaa da didi muyaiTo-
baa saWiro maT mosagvareblad.
mTavaria, pativi sce xalxs, gu-
liT moekido mis gasaWirs da, rac
yvelaze mniSvnelovania, ar unda
moatyuo! ar unda dapirde imas,
risi gamkeTebelic ara xar, jobia,
adamianuri enis auxsna, Tu ratom
ar gvardeba esa Tu is sakiTxi, an
Tu rame keTdeba, ra vadebSi das-
ruldeba. gulwrfelad rom dae-
laparakebi, yvelafers gagigeben.
es xalxi swored amdenma tyuil-
ma daRala...
__ aarraaddaa,, ttoottaalluurr ttyyuuiillSSii
vvccxxoovvrroobbTT....
_ diax, samwuxarod, magram ase
gagrZeleba aRar SeiZleba.
__ bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviillmmaa eerrTT-eerrTT
tteelleeggaaddaacceemmaaSSii ggaannaaccxxaaddaa,, rroomm mmii-
ssii yyvveellaazzee mmZZiimmee ddaa ssaappaassuuxxiissmmggeebb-
lloo mmiissiiaa ppoolliittiikkaaSSii mmoossvvllaa iiyyoo..
TTqqvveenn wwlleebbiiss ggaannmmaavvlloobbaaSSii ssuull
ssxxvvaa aammpplluuaaSSii ggxxeeddaavvddiiTT.. rraamm ggii-
bbiiZZggaaTT ppoolliittiikkuurrii mmooRRvvaawweeoobbiissaa-
kkeenn ddaa rraa mmiizzaannss iissaaxxaavvTT aamm aassppaa-
rreezzzzee??
_ Zalian bednieri kaci var im
gagebiT, rom bavSvobasTan kontaq-
ti ar damikargavs. yvela maxsovs,
vinc odesRac keTilad momeqca da
sixaruli momaniWa _ bevri maTga-
ni ukve aRar aris Cven Soris... ra-
sac bavSvobaSi ver vitandi, dRem-
de ver vitan: ver vitan uniWoebs,
kenweroSi moqceva rom surT, ver
vitan imaT, vinc `qsivebiT~ da
sxvadasxva sabuTebiT elaparakeba
xalxs, mezizReba adamianis Cagvra.
es yvelaferi bavSvobidan momyveba.
ai, axla dadga momenti da es na-
biji gadavdgi. gadavdgi imitom,
rom ukve verc xelovneba, verc
sporti da verc mecniereba bedni-
erebas ver gvaniWebs, radgan qveya-
na mZime mdgomareobaSia. dameTanx-
mebiT, Teatric brZolis aspare-
zia. iq iseT didebul pirovnebeb-
Tan mqonda urTierToba, rogori-
caa robert sturua, gia yanCeli,
Temur ninua, mirian SveliZe; Cemi
Taobis da Cemze umcrosi partni-
orebi, uniWieresi adamianebi medg-
nen gverdiT _ rogor fiqrobT, es
cotaa? TeatrSi maZiebeli da
cocxali suli trialebda: xan me-
fe viyavi, xan mkvleli, xan masxa-
ra da a.S. rolze muSaobisas per-
sonaJis bunebas unda Caswvde, mis
tyavSi unda SeZvre, misi msoflm-
xedveloba unda gaiTaviso _ esec
politikaa. axla minda brZolaSi
Caveba ara viRacis jinaze an dasa-
marcxeblad, aramed imitom, rom
CemTvis saocnebo cxovreba dag-
vidges. ra Tqma unda, egoisturad
marto sakuTari ocnebis axdena ki
ar msurs, aramed xalxTan urTi-
erTobisas vimowmeb, ramdenad em-
Txveva Cemi suliskveTeba maTsas
da vxedav, rom Cemi gulistkivili
maTi gulistkivilia, Cemi natvra
maTi natvraa. ai, es mxdis bedni-
ers da mobilizebuls. Tavidan
vfiqrobdi, ramdenad swori iyo
Cemi gadawyvetileba, axla ki, rac
dro gadis, rac ufro met adami-
ans vxvdebi, vrwmundebi, rom ar
Sevmcdarvar. sakuTar Tavsac va-
mowmeb _ xom ar vSordebi Cems
principebs? RvTis wyalobiT, jer-
jerobiT ase ar aris. Tu am prin-
cipebs davSordi, maSin fuWi iqne-
ba mTeli Cemi saqmianoba da
RmerTs vTxov, es ar moxdes. ar
minda, parlamentSi mxolod antu-
raJi viyo. rogorc ukve vTqvi, Ce-
mi ocneba xalxis ocnebacaa;
xalxs ki Tavisufleba, samarTli-
ani garemo da qveynis SenebaSi mo-
nawileobis SegrZneba sWirdeba. am
xelisuflebam xalxi gariya da
axla gulgrilobas abralebs.
gulgrili da indiferentuli imi-
tom gaxdnen Cveni moqalaqeebi,
rom xelisufleba maT azrs ar
iTvaliswinebs, amcirebs, arCevnebs
uyalbebs. adamiani bednieria, roca
kargi saqmis keTebis Tanamonawile
xdeba, eseni ki sakuTari qveynis
bedis gadawyvetas ar andoben, yve-
lanairad Cagraven, Carecxils da
mumias uwodeben... vis ubedaven ase
laparaks! es unda damTavrdes! Ta-
visuflad unda amovisunTqoT. am
xelisuflebas nebavs, rom marto
misi gundis wevrebma iparpaSon,
Cven ki gvsurs, rom yvela bednie-
ri iyos Tavisi niWis, Sromisa da
SesaZleblobis mixedviT.
__ bboolloo xxaanneebbSSii bbeevvrrii aallooggii-
kkuurrii ffaaqqttiiss mmoommsswwrree ggaavvxxddiiTT;;
uuaammrraavvii iisseeTTii rraamm xxddeebbaa CCvveennss qqvvee-
yyaannaaSSii,, rraacc ssaaRR aazzrrss aarr eeqqvveemmddee-
bbaarreebbaa.. TTqqvveenn,, rrooggoorrcc xxeelloovvaannii,,
rrooggoorr ffiiqqrroobbTT:: vviinn ddggaammss aamm ggaa-
uurrkkvveevveell `̀mmiizzaannsscceenneebbss~~,, hhyyaavvss TTuu
aarraa `̀rreeJJiissoorrii~~ aamm aabbrraakkaaddaabbrraass
TTuu pprroocceessii TTvviiTTddiinneebbaazzeeaa mmiiSSvvee-
bbuullii??
_ es balagania. ara, balagani
raRac Janri mainc aris, es ki sru-
li uJanroba, ugemovnoba da uxam-
sobaa, SeiZleba `bardagi~ vuwo-
doT, sadac arc kanonia da arc sa-
marTali, reJisura aris, oRond
boroti da mdare. esaa xelisufle-
ba, romelsac Tavmoyvareoba ar ga-
aCnia. gvyavs sruliad uTavmoyvareo
xelisufleba da misgan aRaraferi
gvikvirs. garSemo uamravi paradoq-
suli ram xdeba _ Tundac is, rom
xalxs aSineben da moralurad
Trgunaven, qveynidan gasuli adami-
anebis saxelebiTa da gvarebiT ma-
nipulireben, arCevnebis win araTa-
nabar sastarto mdgomareobas qmni-
an. paradoqsebis meti ra aris!...
__ bbaattoonnoo zzaazzaa,, CCvveennss ggaazzeeTTss
`̀ssaaeerrTToo ggaazzeeTTii~~ hhqqvviiaa.. TTqqvveennii aazz-
rriiTT,, rraa aarriiss iiss ssaaeerrTToo ssaattkkiivvaa-
rrii ddaa ssaaeerrTToo nnaattvvrraa,, rriiss ggaarrSSee-
mmoocc SSeeiiZZlleebbaa ssaazzooggaaddooeebbiiss ggaaeerr-
TTiiaanneebbaa??
_ yvelaze didi satkivari
isaa, rom amdeni adamiania damcire-
buli da gaRatakebuli, rom Cveni
qveyana ase Seuracxyofilia. saer-
To natvra ki am etapze ase JRers:
mogvSordes es xelisufleba da
aRarasodes aRar ganmeordes
msgavsi ram!
nino sixaruliZe
P.S. eess iinntteerrvviiuu 1188 sseeqqtteemm-
bbeerrss,, ddiilliiTT CCaaiiwweerraa.. ssaaRRaammooss kkii
yyvveellaannii SSeeggvvZZrraa ppaattiimmaarrTTaa wwaammeebbii-
ssaa ddaa RRiirrsseebbiiss SSeellaaxxvviiss aammssaaxx-
vveellmmaa ssaazzaarreellmmaa kkaaddrreebbmmaa.. aassee,,
rroomm aamm TTeemmaass vveerr SSeevveexxeebbooddiiTT..
`borotebas ki ar unda dauyvavo,saZirkveli unda Seuryio!~
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
internetSi
www.saertogazeti.comSemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-zzee
es balagania... ara, balagani raRac Janri mainc aris... es
sruli uJanroba anu `bardagia~
12 saerTo gazeTi #41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
gTavazobT inttervius polli-
ttikur devnillTan emzar kvi-cianTan, romellic skaipiT
CaviwereT:
_ gamarjoba, batono emzar,
ra xdeba, vaJkacebs an qveynidan
aZeveben, an cixeebSi alpoben
da iq namuss da vaJkacobas ar-
Tmeven? ratom akeTeben amas,
Tqven xom ar iciT?
_ mogesalmebiT qalbatono
iranda. madlobeli var, rom
SemomexmianeT, rom gaxsovarT,
bedavT CemTan saubars da in-
tervius Caweras. iyo SemTxve-
vebi, rogor gausworda xeli-
sufleba im Jurnalistebs,
romlebmac Cems Sesaxeb weri-
lebi da interviuebi dabeWdes.
sanam Tqvens kiTxvaze ga-
davidode, Tanamedrove maia
wyneTels _ irma inaSvi-ls minda mivmarTo:aferum, Tqvens qalo-bas, ar myofnis sity-vebi, rom gamovxato isganwyoba, rasac Tqv-ens mimarT vgrZnob,Tqven xarT gmiri. qedsvixri Tqvens winaSe.
minda mivmarTo lado be-dukaZes da giorgi fo-fxaZesac _ Tqven daayeneT
ufskrulSi gadaCexili saqarT-
velo gadarCenis gzaze. es mi-
sia, etyoba, RmerTma moganiWaT
da amitom bednieri adamianebi
xarT. Tqven ukve miiReT jil-
do _ WeSmarit TanamemamuleTa
siyvaruli.
axla rac Seexeba SekiTxvas,
marTalia, didi ubedureba da-
atyda Tavs cixeSi biWebs, mag-
ram isini Seuracxyofilebi ar
arian, Seuracxyofili varT
Cven _ mTeli saqarTvelo, mag-
ram am bolo xanebSi, RmerTis
wyalobiT, gamoCnda, rom arc
ise cudad yofila saqme, ro-
gorc ucxoeTSi bevrs egona.
im biWebma cixeSi tanjviT
uSveles mTel ers. amitomac
arian wamebulni... mendeT sityva-
ze, Cemo keTilo Zmebo, rom is
tkivili, rac Tqven ganicadeT
didi xnis ganmavlobaSi, me da
Cemma ojaxma ramdenime wuTSi
ganvicadeT, Tqven rom giyureb-
diT. aranakleb gvtkioda suli
da darwmunebuli varT, aseTi
gancda aqvs mTel saqarTvelos.
patimrebs Tavi namdvilad
ar aqvT dasaxreli, isini yvela
qarTuli ojaxis wevri arian
da yvela moeferebaT gadatani-
li tanjvis gamo.
_ nacionalebis maJoritar-
ma deputatma giorgi baramiZem
am dReebSi xalxs uTxra _ ki
ar unda gvrcxvenodes im ambis,
rac am dReebSi gavigeT, piri-
qiT, Tavi maRla unda avwioT
da ase viaroT amayado.
_ diax, baramiZem aseTi ram
Tqva da minda icodes _ Tava-
weuli ki ara, Tavi daxrili
eqneba axla mis winaprebs imq-
veynad, xolo saaqaoSi yvela
mis naTesavsa da axlobels. ara
marto baramiZe da saakaSvili
aris yvelafris wilSi, rac
moxda, aramed yvela is adamia-
ni, vinac ixila is kadrebi da
ar datova Tanamdeboba da nac-
moZraoba.
_ amasobaSi arCevnebi kar-
zea momdgari.
_ arCevnebamde unda mivaR-
wioT mSvidobianad. provokaci-
ac ar unda moewyos, qveynis
SigniT Tu qveynis gareT, pasu-
xismgebloba, cxadia, saakaS-
vilsa da mis gunds daekisre-
ba.
maT aqvT qarTveli sazoga-
doebis absoluturi zizRi.
Cemo Tanamamamuleno da ax-
loblebo, vinc dRemde Semor-
CiT nacmoZraobas _ gons moe-
geT, droze wamodiT nacebisgan,
iqneb is sircxvili, rac Tanam-
debobis wyurvilma SegyaraT,
iqneb CamoirecxoT.
me mrcxvenia, rocazonderebs Soris gi-orgi udesians axsene-
ben. is didebuli oja-xis da kargi soflisSvilia. gadaeciT, ga-ixsenos _rogorc Zma,ise vedeqi gverdiT,vinmes zedmeti sityvaar eTqva misTvis da
axla yovelgvari sin-disis qenjnis gareSeuyurebs imas, rom Cemida 6 weli da 3 TvetyveobaSi hyavs am xe-lisuflebas...
svani, romelic amxelisuflebasTan Ta-namSromlobs, svane-Tis siwmindis da namu-sis moRalatea davwuxvar, rom udesian-Tan erTad anzor mar-giani da ramdenime Cve-ni miwa-wylis svaniamaT siaSi arian.
_ xelisuflebas erTi peri-
odi TiTqosda SiSi hqonda, em-
zar kviciani rusebs Semoiyvan-
so...
_ gaiTamaSes, TiTqos eSino-
daT, Torem maT piroba hqondaT
dadebuli ucxo qveynis spec-
samsaxurebTan, rom kodoris
xeoba CaebarebinaT, es nebismi-
eri xerxiT unda gaekeTebinaT
da gadawyvites, CemTvis daebra-
lebinaT. ra Tqma unda, es unda
yofiliyo gamarjveba razm `mo-
nadireze~, radgan Cven maSin
bevri problema SevuqmeniT
ucxo qveynebs Cveni umarTavi
moqmedebebiT.
konstantine gamsaxurdia am-
bobs: `yoveli drois cilis
mwameblebs kargad scodniaT,
rom adamianis usastikesi das-
ja mxolod maSin xdeba, roca
mas swored imaSi dasdeb
brals, ris winaaRmdegac Tavad
ibrZvis~.
amas winaT suraTebs vaTva-
lierebdi da soso wiklauris
fotos gadavawydi, acxonos
RmerTma, magan mesrola SaSxa-
nidan da qvam da misma profe-
sionalizmma gadamarCina sikv-
dils.
soso 2006 wels Cems wina-
aRmdeg gamouSva saakaSvilma.
Cvens winaaRmdegobas ver gauZ-
les da gaiqcnen sxvebi. sosom
pozicia daikava da manqanis
borblis qveSidan mesrola
pirdapir binokls Sua. qva me-
do binoklis SuaSi, im qvas
moxvda snaiperis tyvia. misi
foto Cems arqivSi inaxeba. ma-
Sin ar vicodi, is Tu mesroda,
gvian misi axloblebisgan gavi-
ge. mere mokles soso, isev ima-
Tive xeliT mokvda, vinc Cems
Tavs akvlevinebda. erTmaneTs
gvaxocinebs mteri, xom xedavT!
axlac raRac provokaciebs am-
zadebeno...
weRan konstantinegamsaxurdia vaxseneda ar SemiZlia arafe-ri vTqva mis saxelo-van SviliSvilze cot-neze, romelic usamar-Tlobis gamo protes-tis gamoxatvisTvisisjeba.
saqarTvelos axalgazrdebma
kategoriulad unda moiTxovon
misi gaTavisufleba.
_ ratom eSinoda saakaS-
vils Tqveni da Tqveni Seiara-
Rebuli jgufis, an sad arian
axla is adamianebi, `monadiris~
wevrebi, vinc maSin erTad ide-
qiT?
_ is adamianebi, vinc CemTan
erTad iyvnen, 40 kaci daapatim-
res, ori maTgani cixeSi wame-
biT mokles, ra meTodebiT, uk-
ve gasagebia. ukve vxvdebiT, ra
tanjvas gaivlidnen saakaSvi-
lis damqaSebis xelSi samSob-
los erTguli jariskacebi. sa-
akaSvils samSoblos dasacavad
erTi dRec ar ubrZolia, ami-
tom vezizRebiT yvela mebrZo-
li, cdilobs yvelas Cirqi
moscxos, magram samarTali is-
eTi ramea, saakaSvilsac daaCo-
qebs ise, rogorc manamde bevri
dauCoqebia da daumarcxebia.
ra Tqma unda, CemTvis umZi-
mesi sayurebeli iyo yvelafe-
ri, rac wlebis ganmavlobaSi
saqarTveloSi xdeboda, magram
arafris Secvla ar SemeZlo,
radgan xalxis umravlesobas
saakaSvilis tyuilebis ufro
sjeroda, vidre Cemi simarT-
lis, kidev kargi, Tu eri Tan-
daTan iRviZebs, magram es sibin-
Zure unda CaedinaT maincdama-
inc, rom xalxi gamofxizlebu-
liyo?!
ukve 9 weliwadi ga-dis skolebsa da ins-titutebSi araqarT-ul cxovrebas aswav-lidnen, magram genmamainc ajoba da axal-gazrdoba, visi gadag-varebis imedic hqon-
daT, ver gadaagvares,yvela mcdeloba wyal-Si CaeyaraT.
es Zalian maxarebs da Cems
samSoblos mowyvetils, cxov-
rebis Zalas mibrunebs saso-
warkveTis zRvarTan misuls...
_ Tqveni azriT, es xeli-
sufleba gabedavda imdens, ra-
sac akeTebs, dasavleTi mxars
rom ar uWerdes?
_ maTgan gaTamamebuli moq-
medebda yovelTvis saakaSvili
da misi banda. RmerTma inebos,
aRsruldes samarTali da ev-
rosasamarTlos winaSe warsd-
ges saakaSvili Tavisi ucxoeli
lobistebianad.
arCevnebis Semdeg ganaCeni
unda gamoutanos qarTvelma
xalxma qveynis moRalateebs,
rom momavalSi vinmes azradac
ar mouvides msgavsi Ralatis
gameoreba.
_ batono emzar, arCevnebSi
monawileobas Tu SeZlebT da
vis gamarjvebas isurvebdiT?
_ Cvenda samwuxarod, arCev-
nebSi monawileobas ver mivi-
RebT, radgan aq ar aris es sa-
kiTxi mogvarebuli. miuxedavad
amisa, msurs xmamaRla davafiq-
siro Cemi da Cemi ojaxis wev-
rebis arCevani _ Cven mxars vu-
WerT baton biZina ivaniSvils!
RmerTi iyos Cveni eris da
qveynis mfarveli am mZime Jams.
iranda kalandaZe
yvela svani, vinc am xelisuflebasTanTanamSromlobs, moRalatea!
ramdenime dRis win gavrcelda kuluaruli infor-
macia, rom foTis portSi Semovida tvirTi, romelic
saeWvo saqonliT iyo datvirTuli.
mtvirTavi muSebi acxadebdnen, rom vagonebi rezi-
nis tyviebiT da xelketebiT iyo savse.
Cven davukavSirdiT foTSi moqalaqeebsa da `qarTu-
li ocnebis~ aqtivistebs. isinic adastureben, rom sa-
eWvo tvirTi rezinis tyviebi da e.w. dubinkebi iyo.
`qarTuli ocnebis~ aqtivistis, mwerlis merab Sa-
TiriSvilis informaciiT, foTSi 55 vagoni rezinis
tyviebi da xelketebi marTlac CamoutaniaT mixeil sa-
akaSvilis biZis Temur alasanias lobistobiT. tvirTis didi nawili ukve TbilsSi yofila trans-
portirebuli, mcire nawili foTSi dautovebiaT...
Zvirfaso megobrebo, saakaSvili nacmoZraobis da mTeli Tavisi naTesavebis mxardaWeriT, rogorc
Cans, kvlav apirebs qarTvel xalxs sisxliani 7 noemberi, 26 maisi da sxva ubeduri TariRebis msgav-
si dReebi gagviTenos...
marTla Camoitanes Tu ara rezinis tyviebi da `dubinkebi~ foTis portSi?!
13saerTo gazeTi#41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
gvesaubreba partia `̀Tavisu-
fali saqqarTvelos~ Tavmjdomare
kaxa kukava::
_ kaxa, sazogadoebaSi, poli-
tikosebis mxridanac gaismis mo-
sazrebebi, rom saakaSvilis re-
Jimi ukve dasrulda. ra mosaz-
reba gaqvs am sakiTxze?
_ vfiqrob, realurad marT-
lac aseTi viTarebaa, reJimi
TiTqmis dasrulebulia, magram
TiTqmis, samwuxarod, ar iTvle-
ba. am yvelafers fasi mas Semdeg
eqneba, rac reJimi marTlac das-
ruldeba. realurad aseTi viTa-
rebaa _ mTavari opoziciuri Za-
la, bunebrivia `qarTuli ocneba-
a~, miuxedavad imisa, rom Cvens
mimarT mTlad koreqtulad ar
iqcevian, vcdilobT kolegialo-
ba davicvaT da am mTavar polit-
kur procesSi damoukidebeli
gadawyvetilebebi ar miviRoT.
Cven, gansxvavebuli politikuri
xedvebi gvaqvs, magram roca pro-
cesi quCaSi gadmodis, gansxvave-
buli strategiis damoukideb-
lad ganxorcielebas ar vapi-
rebT. Tumca mimaCnia, rom am po-
litikur process ufro meti
radikalizmi ar awyenda, magram
`qarTuli ocnebis~ liderebi
Rrma rwmenas gamoxataven _ po-
litikuri procesi isedac das-
rulebulia da zedmeti radika-
lizacia saWiro ar ariso. ami-
tomac, Cven am strategiis Car-
CoebSi vmoqmedebT.
_ viTarebis gamwvaveba xeli-
suflebas saSualebas xom ar mi-
scems arCevnebi gadaavados, rac
maTsave wisqvilze daasxams wya-
ls?
_ ici, ra xdeba, Tako, amaze
pasuxs axla zustad veravin gag-
cems. maxsendeba `vardebis revo-
luciis~ periodi, roca vadamde-
l anu arCevnebis daniSvnis gada-
debaze iyo saubari, sabolood
es procesi prezidentis gadad-
gomiT dasrulda, miuxedavad
imisa, rom maSinac saparlamento
arCevnebi iyo. amitom zustad
ramis Tqma Znelia. Cemi mosazre-
ba aseTia _ Tu avtoritaruli
reJimi imxoba, sjobs, igi quCaSi
daamxo, vidre raRac procedure-
bi daicva. mesmis, rom qveynisT-
vis ukeTesia xelisufleba ar-
Cevnebis gziT Seicvalos. CvenTan
ar TanamSromloben saerTaSori-
so, amerikuli organizaciebi,
amitom ar vici ramdenad gvaqvs
amis myari garantia. Tu aseTi
garantia arsebobs, rom arCevne-
bi gauyalbeblad Catardeba da
opozicia xelisuflebaSi am
gziT mova, maSin ase sjobs, mag-
ram Tu es yvelaferi saTuoa, ma-
Sin is momenti raSic axla saa-
kaSvili imyofeba, anu igi, praq-
tikuld ganiaraRebulia, unda
gamoviyenoT.
_ kaxa, `vardebis revolu-
ciis~ dros SevardnaZis daqvem-
debarebaSi myofma bevrma maRal-
Cinosanma saakaSvilis mxare dai-
Wira. axlac, `nacionalebis~ aq-
tivistebi, maJoritarebi biZina
ivaniSvilis gundSi gadmodian.
istoria meordeba?
_ saerTo movlenebi aris. av-
toritarizmis msxvreva yovelT-
vis Sinagan solidarobas efuZne-
ba. mokled, virTxebi xomaldi-
dan garbian, es avtoritaruli
reJimis wesi. Tumca, SevardnaZis
periodisgan ganmasxvavebeli isaa,
rom am dros rRveva politiku-
ri Tanafardobis Secvlis gamo
daiwyo. rodesac SevardnaZis mi-
marT loialurad ganwyobilma
biznes, polit da policiurma
elitam dainaxa, rom ZalTa Tana-
fardoba SevardnaZis sawinaaRm-
degod icvleboda, am pragmatu-
li motivaciidan gamomdinare,
maT gadawyvetileba miiRes. dR-
es, rom vTqvaT saakaSvilis eli-
tam iaraRi dayarao, aseTi ram
ar xdeba. magram dRes sistemis
rRveva fsiqologiurad
mimdinareobs. aq motiva-
cia aris aramarto is,
rom politikuri Tana-
fardoba Seicvala (es
erTi wlis win moxda),
aramed saakaSvilis mi-
marT biologiuri zi-
zRi, rac SevardnaZis
SemTxvevaSi, ar arsebob-
da. SevardnaZe qarTveli
erisTvis politikuri
problema iyo, romelic
qveynis ganviTarebas uS-
lida xels. mixeil saa-
kaSvili ki saqarTvelos
mosaxleobis 50 procen-
tisTvis piradi proble-
maa. mosaxleoba iRviZebs
da iZinebs locviT _
RmerTo, es satana mog-
vaSoreo imitom, rom
zogi samsaxuridan gaag-
do, zogs biznesi waar-
Tva, zogic daaWerina.
anu, es aris politikuri proce-
si, romelic 2003 wlisgan gan-
sxvavdeba imiT, rom dRes Tbili-
sis quCebSi adamianebi saakaSvi-
lis mimarT arsebul zizRs ga-
mohyavs.
_ kaxa, am etapze xelisuf-
lebam kalmaxeliZe da axalaia
`gadmogvigdo~. magram maTi gaTa-
visuflebiT ramdenad gvardeba
is problema, ris gamoc saqarT-
velos masStabiT vnebaTaRelva
ar wydeba. am sistemas xom Tavis
avtori hyavs, romlis saxeli da
gvari yvelam kargad viciT. ra
unda gakeTdes, rom mas saSuale-
ba ar mivceT am talaxidan suf-
Tad amovides?
_ ar gamova misi talaxidan
sufTad gamosvla, am SemTxveva-
Si, sazogadoeba ukve amas aRar
Wams, mefe SiSvelia da aRaravis
sjera, rom saakaSvilma amis Se-
saxeb ar icoda da axla gaigo.
_ Tumca, saakaSvili iusti-
ciis saministroSi gamovida si-
tyviT. man gamococxleba xom ar
daiwyo?
_ igi gahkioda, kaseta moge-
caT da danaSaulobebi, sxva faq-
tebi aRar moxdebodao, anu mis
xmaSi ikiTxeboda _ ratom ar
mogveciT eg kaseta, rom ise mog-
vespo veRaravis Seetyo amis Se-
saxebo. saakaSvili gakotrebu-
lia.
_ sazogadoebisgan, studen-
tebisgan gvesmis, rom kalmaxe-
liZis, axalaias gadadgoma sakma-
risi ar aris. rogor fiqrob, aba
ra aris sakmarisi, rogor xedav
movlenebis ganviTarebis finals?
_ rTuli saTqmelia. axla
saakaSvili fiqrobs, ramdenad
SeuZlia mas TamaSis Semotria-
leba. Tu saakaSvili Zalaufle-
bas SeinarCunebs, ra Tqma unda,
represiebi kidev ufro gaZlier-
deba, magram gaCnda Zalian rea-
luri Sansi, rom saakaSvilma Za-
laufleba dakargos. samarTal-
damcavi organoebi bolomde de-
moralizebulni arian. xalxisa
da samarTaldamcavebis dapiris-
pirebis SemTxvevaSi, isini vera-
nair Zalas ver gamoiyeneben.
_ kaxa, dimitri lorTqi-
faniZem ganacxada, rom arCevnebi
5 nomris gareSe unda CavataroT.
ramdenad xedav amis realur
Sanss?
_ arCevnebamde 5 dRe darCa
da gamoricxuli araferia. avto-
ritaruli reJimebis buneba ase-
Tia _ saakaSvilma yvelaze metad
visac Caacva, swored isini gax-
dian. man unda icodes, rom nika
rurua gamova da imas ityvis, ra-
sac goga xaindrava ambobda, ga-
mova giorgi baramiZe da zustad
imaves gaimeorebs, rasac Salva
naTelaSvili ambobda. es avto-
ritarizmis bunebaa, rac saakaS-
vilma Teoriulad icis, magram
praqtikaSi imis dajereba ar un-
da, rom mas politikur saflav-
Si aravin Cahyveba. mis gverdiT
arian adamianebi, vinc 5 mTavro-
ba gamoicvala da Tu amis SesaZ-
lebloba miecemaT, axlac igives
gaakeTeben. magram Tu reJimi dab-
runda, represiuli aparatis xe-
laxali gaZliereba gardauvalia.
_ kaxa, `qarTuli ocnebis~
sasargeblod kidev 12 olqSi
moxseni sakuTari kandidaturebi.
riT axsni amas da kidev xom ar
gegmav msgavs qmedebebs?
_ amasTan dakavSirebiT aseTi
pozicia gvaqvs _ yvelafrisTvis
mzad varT, magram es ormxrivi
unda iyos. imis gamo, rom SeTan-
xmeba erTian frontze ver Sed-
ga, kavkasiuri carcis wris ar
iyos, mainc miviReT gadawyveti-
leba da Toks xeli gavuSviT.
mzad varT maJoritarul olqeb-
Si TiTo-TiTo kandidatebis da-
yeneba gavagrZeloT, magram amaSi
mxardaWera `qarTuli ocnebida-
nac~ gvWirdeba. faqtia, rom mo-
Zalade xelisufleba gvyavs. ukan
cocxSetenili patimrebi hitle-
ris reJimis drosac ar minaxavs.
amitom, roca xelisuflebis sa-
TaveSi aseTi reJimia, am dros
isaubro imaze, modi areulobas
nu davuSvebTo, cota sasaciloa.
es ar aris am wonadobis sakiTxi.
areulobac aris fasi imisi, rom
reJimi moviSoroT. viRac ambob-
da sazRvargareT vuyure am kad-
rebs da ar mindoda vinmes gaego,
rom qarTeli varo. ramdenime
aTeuli wlis win msoflio SeZ-
ra centraluri afrikis prezi-
dentis bokasas macivarSi adami-
anis xorcis aRmoCenam. amis Sem-
deg 40-50 weli gavida da es am-
bavi msofliom moinela. daaxlo-
ebiT, aseTive nonsensia is, rac
CvenTan moxda. msofliom icis,
rom bevr qveyanaSi arCevnebi
yalbdeba, policia mitingebs ar-
bevs, polit.partiebs devnian da
a.S. magram msofliom ar icis da
nonsensia is, rac bolo dReebSi
televiziebis meSveobiT vixi-
leT. amitom aseT dros saubari
imaze, rom `hitleri~ ar davam-
xoT, imitom, rom qveyanaSi SeiZ-
leba areuloba iyos, adekvaturi
ar aris.
_ maSin unda dadges Tu ara
prezidentis impiCmentis saki-
Txi?
_ Zalian saSiS mowinaaRmde-
gesTan gvaqvs saqme, amitom wesia
aseTi _ nadirobisas taxs rom
dainaxav pirdapir TavSi unda
esrolo, Torem Tu aacile da
fexSi moartyi, meore srolas
aRar gaclis da Tavis eSvebiT
gamogfatravs. saakaSvilis xe-
lisufleba axla swored aseT
mdgomareobaSia. swored axlaa
es momenti gamosayenebeli, kor-
tebTan rom viyaviT, xe-
lisufleba Tavis kidu-
rebs ver xmarobda _
patruli ar emorCile-
boda da a.S. RmerTma nu
qnas, rom maT gonze mos-
vlis saSualeba mieceT.
saakaSvilis uaxloesi
garemocvidan vici, rom 7
noembers igi qveynidan
gaqcevas apirebda. momiyv-
nen, rogor gauxsnes Za-
liT kriWa, Caasxes koni-
aki, roca riyeze xalxi
daiSala Zlivs moiyvanes
gonze. daSla rom ar
momxdariyo da realuri
safrTxe egrZno, SeiZle-
ba maSinve sxva gadawyve-
tileba mieRo. axla, saa-
kaSvili panikaSia. albaT,
naxeT rogor gamovida
iusticiis saxlSi _
tribunaze Wiqa ver dad-
ga da asfaltze dado.
Cemi azriT, Rirs dafiqreba ima-
ze, rom maincdamainc saarCevno
kodeqsis da konstituciis pro-
cedurebis mixedviT ar wavides
politikuri procesebi.
saakaSvili Zalian iaffasiani
politikosi gamodga. mis poli-
tikur SemoqmedebaSi veronika
qobaliasa da xaTuna kalmaxeli-
Zis SiSveli mklavebi ufro
mniSvnelovani aRmoCnda, vidre
is istoriuli aspeqtebi, rasac
demokratiis, saxelmwifos Seqm-
na hqvia. yvelam davinaxeT, ro-
gor gahkioda _ vis unda davu-
tovo Cemi aSenebuli qveyanao.
igi, im mentalitets ver gascda,
rom saxelmwifo kerZo kompania
ki ara naciis sakuTrebaa.
Tamar SveliZe
wesia aseTi _ nadirobisas taxs pirdapir
TavSi unda esrolo, Torem Tu aacile meore
srolas aRar gacdis da Tavisi eSvebiT
gamogfatravs. saakaSvilis xelisufleba
axla swored aseT mdgomareobaSia
Tu avtoritaruli reJimi imxoba, sjobs, igi quCaSi daamxo, vidre raRac procedurebi daicva
14 saerTo gazeTi #41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
gvesauubrreba parrlamentis ada-
mianis uufflebaTa dacvis komite-
tis wevrri dimitri lorT-qifaniZe:
_ batono dimitri, Tqven ar-
Cevnebis 5-iianis gareSe Catareba-
ze isaubreT. es rogor warmo-
gidgeniaT?
_ vfiqrob, rac erma am dRe-
ebSi vnaxeT legitimur safuZ-
vels gvaZlevs arCevnebi, `erTia-
ni nacionaluri moZraobis~ gare-
Se CavataroT. am mosazrebas bev-
ri mowinaaRmdege, bevric _ mxar-
damWeri hyavs. mowinaaRmdegeni
acxadeben, rom arCevnebSi umrav-
lesobiT mosvla garantirebuli
aqvT da gamoZiebas Semdgom Caa-
tareben. am azris momxreebi ki
acxadeben _ mas Semdeg, rac pre-
zidenti iusticiis saxlis gaxs-
naze naxes, swored es skepsizi
gamoxatulia im SiSiT, rom xe-
lisufleba kvlav sakuTari Za-
lauflebis reanimirebas da ar-
CevnebSi sasurveli cifris dawe-
ras Seecdeba. am SemTxvevaSi, re-
volucia gardauvali iqneba. ami-
tom, vfiqrob, sanam `nac.moZrao-
ba~ nok-daunis mdgomareobaSia,
partiuli aqtivi srulad demo-
ralizebulia, Tavad koordina-
torebi nacionalur saarCevno
StabebSi misvlas veRar bedaven,
swored dRes aris Sansi mTelma
sazogadoebam `nacionalur moZ-
raobas~ ganaCeni gamoutanos, da-
iwyos sayovelTao saxalxo moZ-
raoba erTaderTi moTxovniT _
`nac.moZraoba~ faSistur organi-
zaciasTan gaigivdes da arCevnebi-
dan moixsnas. ramdenadac infor-
macias vflob, msgavsi sarCeli
`qarTul ocnebas~ sasamarTloSi
hqonda wardgenili da uari mii-
Ro. ar gamovricxav, rom 29 seq-
tembers, roca moedanze xalxis
uprecedento raodenoba Seikri-
beba, msgavsi moTxovna kvlav gaJ-
Rerdes. sazogadoebam SeiZleba
moiTxovos, rom `nacionalur
moZraobas~ arCevnebSi monawile-
obis ufleba CamoerTvas, ro-
gorc jalaTobis mfarvels da
generators.
_ am mokle droSi `naciona-
luri bandis~ saarCevno regist-
raciidan moxsnis ra iuridiuli
safuZveli arsebobs?
_ nebismier iuridiul normas
morali kvebavs. amitom, moralu-
ri iqneboda sazogadoebis damo-
kidebuleba gvenaxa. amoraluro-
baSi brals aravis vdeb _ ra
Tqma unda, adamianebs Tavisi Ta-
visufali nebis gamoxatvidan ga-
momdinare, samarTlianad mimaCnia,
pozicia gaaCndeT, jer arCevnebs
daelodon da Semdgom damnaSave
xelisuflebis mimarT kanonier
represias mimarTon. magram garan-
tia imisa, rom `nac.moZraoba~ am
arCevnebis igive moculobiT da
masStabiT gayalbebas ar Seecde-
ba, rac ukve dagegmili iyo da
raSic kacitaZis komisiam lomis
wili Seitana, ar arsebobs. vSi-
Sob, 1 oqtombris mere ufro
uaresi ar moxdes, vidre dRes
SeiZleba ufro umtkivneulod
mogvarebuliyo. 2-3 dRe `nac.moZ-
raobis~ zeda da saSualo eSe-
lonebidan ar moiZebna arcerTi
politikosi, vinc am Temaze ko-
mentars gaakeTebda. `Tavisufal-
ma saqarTvelom~ `nac.moZraobis~,
karbelaSvilis vakis StabTan aq-
cia movawyveT, maT Semzaravi fo-
toebiT gadavukariT mTeli ofi-
si, magram erTi adamianic ar aR-
moCnda, vinc Tavs imarTlebda da
sakuTar pozicias daicavda. yve-
la Stabi Caketili iyo. Tumca
mas Semdeg, rac dainaxes, rom sa-
zogadoebis risxva droebiT Caq-
ra, sakuTari politikuri Zalis
reanimireba daiwyes. `erTiani na-
cionaluri moZraobis~ raionul
Stabebs yvela ubanSi rigebi ud-
gaT, sadac 300-dan 500 laramde
Tanxebi gaicema. rogorc Cans,
bolo erTi kviris manZilze Tan-
xebis raodenoba kidev ufro ga-
izrdeba da 500-dan 1000 laram-
de miaRwevs. amis Sesaxeb, axal-
gazrdebi Tavad acxadeben, rom
`nac.moZraobis~ aqtivistebisgan
msgavsi SemoTavazebebi aqvT.
`nac.moZraoba~ am arCevnebze ar-
naxuli finansuri resursiT ga-
modis. roca, qveyanaSi realuri
amomrCeveli maqsimum 2.500 aTa-
sia, rodesac es 100 procenti
milioni amomrCeveliTaa gazrdi-
li, `nac.moZraoba~ miliardobiT
Tanxas flobs da Teoriulad aq-
tivis SeZena Tavisufladaa Se-
saZlebeli, bunebrivia, ar
unda garisko da misi Camo-
cilebis gzebi eZebo.
realurad, qve-yanaSi 10 kacisproblemaa da CvenmaTi Camocilebaverc im sityvebismere movaxerxeT,rac givia Targama-Zem gviTxra _suls amogxdiT,verc mas Semdeg,rac 26 maisi gavia-reT _ samxedrospec. operacia sa-kuTari moqalaqee-
bis winaaRmdeg, 7 noemb-ris Semdegac xmas ar vi-RebT, mas Semdeg, racaRmoCnda, rom 30 aTas-kacian patimrebis kon-tingentSi yoveldRiu-rad wameba, cema mimdi-nareobda, invalidebsetlidan agdebdnen da2-3 dRe asfaltze Zirsdagdebuls tovebdnen,am yovelives Semdeg armesmis ra arCevnebzevsaurobT, Tuki vxe-davT, rom gayalbebulisistemiT, kvlav xeli-sufleba modis da geub-neba _ me Cemsas davwerda vnaxoT, ra fexebsmomWamo.
ase gviwvevs igi brZolaSi.
amitom, dRes, roca igi absolu-
turad demoralizebulia, xel-
sayreli Sansi gvaqvs msoflios
Tvalwin gamovaaSkaravoT da maT
arCevnebSi monawileobaze uari
vuTxraT da kanongareSe gamo-
vacxadoT. darwmunebuli var, Si-
naganad, am sakiTxSi yvela meTan-
xmeba, magram praqtikulad imple-
mentaciis kuTxiT acxadeben _
modi, arCevnebs davelodoTo. ki,
batono mivdivarT am arCevnebSi,
magram SevecadoT erTobiT mainc
uzrunvelyoT im TviTnebobis
likvidacia, rasac xelisufleba
mosalodneli gayalbebiT Tavs
mogvaxvevs.
_ dRes mTeli qveyana kolo-
nias daemsgavsa _ gareT myofnic
xom cixeSi varT. rac cixeebSi
xdeba, saidan modis amis saTave
da ratom Tavis droze ar aRvS-
foTdiT saTanadod?
_ cixe, rogorc aseTi daTr-
gunvis, marTvis instrumentia da
es vardosnebma kargad gaacnobie-
res. maT cixis reforma konkre-
tuli miznisken mimarTes _ mo-
saxleobis uZravi qonebis kapita-
lizaciis mosaxdenad.
yvela gaTvle-biT, saqarTvel-os uZravi qoneba24-25 miliards Se-adgens. cixis re-forma uZravi qo-nebis SewoviskenmimarTes. gaRat-akebis, gandevnispolitika miznadisaxavda ucxotomebis masobri-vi CamosaxlebiTeleqtoralurimasa mTlianad Se-ecvalaT da ar-
CevnebSi yovelTvis sa-surveli Sedegi mie-RoT. anu saubari imaze,rom isini 40-50 wliTmovidnen, safuZvelsmoklebuli sulac ariyo.
maT zustad icodnen qarTve-
li xalxis winaaRmdeg rogor
barbarosul gegmas axorcieleb-
dnen. xelisuflebam moaxerxa
sakraluri mniSvnelobis Rirebu-
lebebis xelyofa, amis Sedegad
testis Cabareba da gzavnili
patronebTan pensilvaniis koSkeb-
Si _ Cven es SevZeliT, xalxi
umeqmodo, indiferentulia. xe-
lisufleba yoveldRiurad ax-
dens uzneobis instalacias.
Prezidenti ar erideba e.w. pat-
riotTa banakebSi axalgazrdebs
buCqebisken mouwodos. rac mTava-
ria, prezidentis politikis Se-
degad tradiciuli erovnuli
Rirebulebebis devalvaciis xel-
Sewyoba xdeba. aman ukvalod ar
Caiara. Tumca,
dRes sazogadoeba,studentoba, aRniSnu-li faqtebis Semyure,gamofxizlda da mtrisxati dainaxa. CemTvis`nac.moZraoba~ didi xa-nia, rac politikurioponenti aRar aris.Ees aris qarTveli ka-cis, qarTuli saxelm-wifoebriobis ideo-logiuri mteri, rom-lis mTavari amocanaasakonstitucio done-
ze, rac SeiZleba swra-fad moaxdinos Cveni mi-wa-wylis gasxviseba daqarTveli mosaxleobisqveynidan gandevna.
yoveldRiurad eleqtronuli
auqcionebiT ucxo qveynis moqa-
laqeTa biznes jgufebze aseulo-
biT heqtari miwa iyideba. walen-
jixis, xaragaulis tyeebSi aseu-
lobiT Cinuri brigadebi muSao-
ben. ivris xeobaSi erT dReSi
1000 heqtari miwa israelis mo-
qalaqeze gaasxvises. iormuRalo-
Si daTesili yanebi glexebs gau-
yides. wyaltuboSi indoel in-
vestorebs aseulobiT heqtari
miwa daumtkices. es sulisaRmZv-
reli ar aris?! magram rogorc
Cans zombirebulebi, umoqmedoni
gavxdiT. rogorc Cans, Cveni ma-
muli ar gvtkiva da amitomac
ufalma gansacdeli mogvivlina _
Cveni TvaliT vixileT, rogor
aupatiureben xelketebiT patim-
rebs.
_ aRniSnulma kadrebma stu-
dentebis uprecedento aqciebi
gamoiwvia. Tumca xom ar aris es
aqciebi garedan marTuli gamom-
dinare iqedan, rom axalaias ga-
dayenebis Semdeg, situacia damS-
vidda.
_ am qveynis problema sul
ramodenime adamiania _ saakaSvi-
li, merabiSvili, adeiSvili, bo-
keria, TargamaZe, levan ramiSvi-
li da maTTan erTad saSualo
rgolis CinovnikTa raodenoba,
romlebic arsebul sistemas
qmnian.
ar maqvs iluzia,rom am piramidis wver-
Si saakaSvili, merabiS-vili da adeiSvili ari-an. am piramidis wverSiis patronebi arian,romlebic 26 maisis Sem-deg acxadebdnen _ sa-qarTvelo demokrati-uli principebiT vi-Tardebao. swored isi-ni unaTeben mwvane Suqssadamsjelo razmebs.
am borotebis SeCerebis gza-
ze gansakuTrebuli roli droSi
marad ucvlelma eklesiam unda
Seasrulos. vinc ar unda marTav-
des eklesias, igia Tavad WeSma-
riteba. am WeSmaritebas dacva ar
sWirdeba, aramed man Cven unda
dagvicvas. amitom, Zalian didi
mniSvneloba aqvs samRvdeloebis
pozicias, imas, Tu ramdenad Se-
urigebeli da mamxilebeli iqneba
eklesia am sistemis mimarT.
_ bolos minda satelevizio
eTerSi Tqvens mier dasmu-
li SekiTxva gavimeoro _
arCevnebSi politikur
oponentad bavSvebis gamau-
patiurebeli organizacia
rogor warmogidgeniaT?
_ geTanxmebiT. mTavari
politikuri moTamaSe
`qarTuli ocneba~ acxa-
debs, xelisuflebasTan
konfrontacias, sjobs ar-
CevnebSi gavimarjvoTo _
es Teoriuli Tvalsazri-
siT misaRebia, magram praq-
tikulad, bavSvebis gamau-
patiurebeli politikuri
organizacia araviTar Sem-
TxevaSi ar Seegueba marcxs. ami-
tom, imis iluzia, rom 1 oqtom-
bers arCevnebi mSvidobianad das-
ruldeba, ar maqvs.
vfiqrob, nok-daunSimyofi `nac.moZraobis-Tvis~ _ banditebisxrovisTvis fexze wa-modgomis saSualebaar unda migveca. vacxa-deb, xeliufleba, rome-lic dResac ukvdavi ka-Seis rolSi gvyavs,aucileblad Seecdebanebismieri resursis _Zalis, ukanonobis ga-moyenebiT arCevnebisSedegebis legitimaciaar dauSvas. ers srulilegitimuri uflebagvaqvs mZlavri sapro-testo aqciis fonze`nac. moZraobis~ regis-traciidan moxsna mo-viTxovoT.
Tamar SveliZe
ers sruli legitimuri ufleba gvaqvs
mamakacebis da bavSvebis xelketebiT
gamaupatiurebeli `nacmoZraobis~
arCevnebidan moxsna moviTxovoT!
15saerTo gazeTi#41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
eqskluziuri interviu gene-
ral viaCeslav borisovTan.
2012 wlis 8 agvistos omis
Sesaxeb qarTvelma sazogadoebam
qarTuli mediis saSualebiT bevri
ucnobi detali Seityo, magram uam-
ravi informacia dRemde saidum-
lod rCeba.
guSinwin baTumSi, mogvianebiT,
zugdidSi da kaxeTSi, saakaSvilma
Tavis momxreebs ase mimarTa: `ai,
aqve ramdenime kilometrSi rusi
okupantebi dganan da erTi suli
aqvT, rodis SemoiWrebian saqarTve-
loSi! amitom dagegmes arCevnebis
win. TavianTi samxedro wvrTnebi
Cvens sazRvarze (ratom? afxazeTi
da cxinvali ukve Cveni aRar aris
iuridiulad? _ i.g.) da Tuki aq,
maTi mokavSireebis mier arCevnebis
win politikuri daZabulobis kera
dainaxes, maSinve Semovlen da dag-
vabruneben iq, saidanac ris vai-vag-
laxiT davaRwieT Tavi. ai, ra unda
opoziciad wodebul erT jgufs,
ai, es unda, magram me gaZlevT pi-
robas, rom Cven amas aRarasodes
davuSvebT, aRarasodes, ra fasadac
ar unda dagvijdes!~ (yviris).
ramdenad realuria msgavsi
ram? da ras amboben Tavad rusebi
saqarTveloSi SemoWraze, amis gas-
agebad qarTvelebiTvis kargad cno-
bil general viaCeslav borisovs
davukavSirdi.
Cems mkiTxvels, albaT, axsovs
eqskluziuri interviu general vi-
aCeslav borisovTan 2008 wlis 9
agvistos, magram maSin, general
borisovs CemTan detaluri Sinaar-
sis interviusTvis ar ecala da
amitom, vidre saqarTveloSi kvla-
vac `SemoiWrebodes~, `davaswari~
da interviu vTxove.
maS, ase, kvlav eqskluziuri
interviu general borisovTan da
misi erTgvari aRsareba qarTvele-
bis winaSe.
_ gamarjoba, batono generalo,
gecodinebaT albaT, isev ruseTis
jaris SemoWras veliT saqarTve-
loSi, saakaSvili TiTqmis yovel-
dRe gvaSantaJebs ruseTis samxed-
ro wvrTnebiT da sainteresoa, tan-
kebi ukve daqoqeT?
_ (icinis.) ras brZanebT? ra
gvinda mand? arc 2008 wlis agvis-
toSi gvesaqmeboda rame, magram ba-
tonma saakaSvilma esrola mSvido-
biani qalaqis mZinare moqalaqeebs,
Cvens samSvidoboebs, riTac provo-
cireba gagvikeTa da Cvenc, mSvido-
biani mosaxleobis dasacavad aR-
movCndiT mand! iciT, me politiko-
si ara var, me var samxedro gene-
rali da omis kanonebs, yovelTvis
zedmiwevniT vicav!
_ ras gulisxmobT omis kano-
nebSi?
_ vgulisxmob imas, rom omsac
aqvs Tavisi moraluri normebi, ro-
goricaa, vTqvaT, tyveebis xelSeu-
xebloba. Tuki gardacvlils pat-
roni ar gamouCnda _ misi dakr-
Zalva. qalebis, bavSvebis da moxu-
cebis xelSeuxebloba, maTTvis hu-
manitaruli daxmarebis aRmoCena da
a.S. me, yovelTvis vicavdi am mora-
lur normebs avRaneTSic da yvel-
gan, sadac ki vyofilvar. Tu Cemi
ar gjeraT, mibrZandiT Tqvens
ltolvilebTan da hkiTxeT, Cems
daqvemdebarebaSi myof Tundac erT
jariskacs, maTTvis Seuracxyofa
miuyenebia? Tqveni mTavrobis mier
mitovebuli mosaxleoba morodio-
rebisa da bandformirebebis
msxverpli gaxda da mxolod Cveni
mosvlis Semdeg Seicvala yvelafe-
ri... iciT Tqven Tu ara, rom omSi
daRupuli jariskaci wmindanivi-
Taa? romeli mxarisac ar unda
iyos is? me, samxedro generali
var da am wmindaTa wminda msxver-
plis mimarT, udidesi pativiscemiT
var gamsWvaluli. kacobriobis is-
toriaSi, daaxloebiT, 15 000 omia
warmoebuli, magram arc erT maT-
ganSi iseTi precedenti ar dafiq-
sirebula, rac Cven agvistoSi vna-
xeT. anda, iciT is, rom omis mim-
dinareobisas specialurad Cerde-
boda saomari moqmedebebi, cxadde-
boda `peremiriebi~ rom gacvlili-
yo tyveebi, dasaflavebuliyvnen mi-
cvalebulebi da daRupuli jaris-
kacebisTvis pativi miegoT? ai, es
aris omis dauwereli kanonebi Ce-
mo qalbatono da hkiTxeT Tqvens
mTavrobas, Tqvens oficrobas, ro-
meli maTgani aRsrulda maTi mxri-
dan? ratom iyvnen daRupuli qarT-
veli jariskacebi upatronod mi-
tovebuli, mkiTxeT da gipasuxebT...
_ gekiTxebiT da mipasuxeT...
_ albaT, gaxsovT, rogor cxe-
loda maSin... am jariskacebis gva-
mebmac male daiwyes xrwna da ad-
gilobrivi mosaxleoba, imis molo-
dinSi, rom am biWebs patroni gamo-
uCndeboda, kontaqtze gamovidoda
qarTuli xelisufleba, anda Tav-
dacvis saministro, erT adgilze
agrovebda cxedrebs... gavida ramde-
nime dRe... kontaqti ar xerxdebo-
da... geficebiT yvelafers, vfica-
var maRal RmerTs, saqarTvelos
xelisuflebas am cxedrebis gata-
nis da gadacemis motiviT ar mou-
marTavs CvenTvis, ar Semosulan
kontaqtSi! metic, gorSi TiTqmis
datyvevebuli hyavdaT `wiTeli
jvris~ wamomadgenlebi da sxva hu-
manitaruli organizaciis wevrebi
da ar uSvebdnen aqeT cxinvalisken!
erTaderTi, visac maSin Cemi ar
Sercxva, leonardo iyo (devdaria-
ni) romelmac jer damireka, xolo
Semdeg Camovida gorSi da mTxova,
iqneb gardacvlili jariskacebis
gvamebi, mogvagrovebinoT, gagvike-
ToT koridori da spec. manqanebiT
gagvatanoTo! leonardosTan erTad
iyo misi Zma generali anzor dev-
dariani. me leonardos vuTxari:
CamoiyvaneT furgon-macivrebis man-
qanebi, me gamovyof spec. danayofs,
romelTac gvamebis damarxva evale-
ba, isini akrefen da moagroveben
danarCen gardacvlilebs da gad-
mogcemT Tqven-Tqo! leonardom Ce-
mi sityvebis Semdeg maSinve dareka
TbilisSi da mxolod 2 dRis Sem-
deg (ratom 2 dRis da ara maSin-
ve?) CvenTan kontaqtze gamovida
saqarTvelos sapatriarqo, xolo
misi uwmindesoba, kaTolikosi
ilia II piradad Camovida gorSi,
micvalebulebis gadmosasveneblad!
meore dRes, varianSi daRupuli da
quCebSi dayrili 15 jariskacis
cxedaric gadaveciT, rkinigzis
sadgurze akrefili 43 jariskacic
23 jariskacic romlebic sxvadas-
xva dasaxlebul soflebSi ukve
TiTqmis ixrwnebodnen... vimeoreb,
sakuTari mTavarsardlebis mier
upatronod dayrili qarTveli ja-
riskacebis cxedrebis Segrovebasa
da gatanas, qarTul mxares aravin
ar uSlida! piriqiT, Cven ramden-
jerme kategoriulad moviTxoveT
micvalebulebi droulad gaetanaT,
magram ar vici, ra iyo mizezi,
CvenTan ukontaqtobisa da drois
gawelvisa!
_ me getyviT mizezs: saqarTve-
los xelisuflebas SeeSinda rea-
luri msxverplis dasaxelebis...
_ sxvaTaSoris, minda icodeT,
rom varianSi maSin Cveni jaris na-
wilebi ar idga! ase, rom, gardac-
vlili jariskacebis iqedan gatana
araviTar problemas ar warmoad-
genda. Tanac imasac davZen, rom es
jariskacebi ara tyviiT, aramed
Tqveni artileriis cecxlis
msxverplni gaxdnen maSin, roca av-
tomanqanebis koloniT cxinalisken
miemarTebodnen. agreTve minda ico-
deT, rom 15 samxedro tyve jaris-
kaci `cxinvalidan~ xolo 22 tyve
afxazeTidan (albaT, `zemo afxa-
zeTs~ gulisxmobs _ i.g.) Cven, pi-
radad gadaveciT qarTvel dedebs,
yovelgvari gacvlisa da yovelgva-
ri pretenziebis gareSe. me minda
qarTvelma xalxma es aucileblad
icodes.
_ batono generalo, Cven agvis-
tos dReebSic visaubreT, magram
dRevandeli gadasaxedidan minda
gkiTxoT: xom ar moxda raRac
garigeba axalgorTan dakavSire-
biT?
_ me, erTxel ukve giTxariT,
rom samxedro generali var da Ce-
mi saqme ar aris politikis binZu-
ri xlarTebi. agreTve araviTari
survili ar maqvs, vinmem CemiT is-
pekuliros da amitom, mogaxsenebT
imas, rac vnaxe, rac movismine da
samudamod CamebeWda mexsierebaSi.
2008 wlis 13 agvistos dilis 11
saaTze Cven da qarTvelebs unda
gagvecvala samxedro tyveebi, anu
yvela-yvelaze. mogaxsenebT imasac,
rom am gacvlas win uZRoda SeTan-
xmeba, romelic Cvensa da Tavdacvis
ministr baton kezeraSvils Soris
Sedga, romelic Camouli iyo mosa-
laparakeblad. moxda ise, rom
tyveTa gacvlaze, qarTuli mxare
rusi tyveebis gareSe gamocxadda
da maT magivrad, Sinagan saqmeTa sa-
ministros romeliRac moadgile
gveaxla saakaSvilis ultimatumiT:
_ tyveTa gacvla ar moxdeba iqam-
de, vidre axalgoris raions Cven
TviTon ar gavanTavisuflebTo. min-
da, icodeT, rom miuxedavad aseTi
ultimatumisa, Cven qarTeli sam-
xedro tyveebi, im ministris moad-
giles maSin mainc gavataneT, yo-
velgvari axsna-ganmartebis gareSe,
magram warmodgenili ultimatumis
Sesaxeb dauyovnebliv vacnobeT ru-
seTis federaciis mTavrsardlobas,
saidanac mivideT miTiTeba, rom _
ruseTis federacia ultimatumis
eniT saubars aravisTan dauSvebda.
axla momismineT yuradRebiT da ga-
ixseneT, Cven axalgorSi Cveni Se-
naerTebi rodis SeviyvaneT?
_ Tu ar meSleba, ukve bolos-
ken, roca 3 dRiani omi damTavrda,
ara?
_ irina, Cven leningorSi (dRe-
vandeli axalgori) jaris Seyvanas
arc vgegmavdiT, magram batonma ka-
xa lomaiam es sakiTxi principu-
lad wamogviyena da piradad me ara-
erTgzis mTxova, leningorSi Cemi
`sadesanto rota~ gamegzavna, Tqven
gesmiT? qarTveli kaxa lomaia, me,
rus generals mevedreboda axal-
gorSi Cemi `desantnikebi~ Semeyva-
na!
amis Semdeg, kvlav intensiur
reJimSi aRdga samxedro tyveebis
gacvlis sakiTxi da amasobaSi Tqve-
ni Sinagan saqmeTa saministros ro-
meliRaca sxva moadgile mogvadga
axali ultimatumiT: `gagviwmin-
deT~ axalgori, Torem Tqvens 5
samxedro tyves, araviTar SemTxve-
vaSi ar dagibrunebTo. maSin me,
isev davukavSirdi Cvens mTavarsar-
dlobas, kerZod ki gen. Stabis sa-
olqo komitets, piradad general
makarovs da saakaSvilis axali
ultimatumic gadaveci. generalma
makarovma, Sesabamisad imoqmeda da
moskovSi, gen. Stabs daukavSirda,
saidanac aseTi pasuxi miviRe: `Tu-
ki xvalve, dilis 11 saaTze, saqar-
Tvelos xelisufleba ar gadmogv-
cems Cvens tyveebs, sadac movila-
parakeT, maSin saRamos Cven maT da-
vibrunebT ukve TbilisSi, mTavar
moedanze. ai, es aris simarTle Tu
gnebavT, rom icodeT detalebi.
anu, qarTulma mxarem, e.i. saakaS-
vilma daarRvia piroba tyveTa gac-
vlis Sesaxeb da roca moskovis
ultimatumis Sesaxebac vacnobeT
piradad mxolod amis Semdeg ineba
da molaparakebebis reJimi aRadgi-
na.
tyveTa gacvlis Sesaxeb mola-
parakebis Cavardnam ara mxolod
Cven, aramed bevri qarTveli Caagdo
SokSi. ukve saRamos 16 saaTze Cem-
Tan gorSi, isev Camovida Cemi qar-
Tveli megobari leonardo (devda-
riani _ i.g.) da sakmaod cxare
diskusiebi gvqonda masTan. daaxlo-
ebiT 2 saaTSi Crdilo kavkasiis
samxedro olqis brZanebiT me mivi-
Re davaleba, pirwmindad gamesuf-
Tavebina axalgoris r-ni da axal-
gori morodiorebisa da band-for-
mirebebisgan, am ambiT gaxarebulma
leonardom maSinve gadmoureka
TbilisSi myof qarTvel general
irakli koduas, romelic adre mec
gamacno da romelic im dResac da-
melaparaka me. ramdenime wuTSi,
leonardos telefonze viRacam da-
ureka... me qarTuli ar vici, magram
imdenad emociuri iyo leonardo,
mivxvdi, qarTveli mxare raRacas
kvlav afuWebda da vkiTxe, raSi
iyo saqme? leonardom miTxra:
`slava, gTxov, Seni rota Seayov-
ne, me axlave waval TbilisSi da
gavarkvev raSia saqme, viRac poli-
tikani xels uSlis molaparakebe-
bis process da miRebuli aqvs
brZaneba `piruku gadaiTamaSos~ si-
tuaciao. leonardo wavida igoeT-
Si, Sempirda yvelafris garkvevas,
magram me xom Cemi mTavarsardlo-
bis brZaneba unda mainc Semesrule-
bina da axalgori gamewminda moro-
2008 wlis agvistos omis aqamde ucnobi Sokimomgvreli detalebi
general borisovis mtkicebiT axalgori
rusebs saqarTvelos xelisuflebam Caabara?
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
internetSi
www.saertogazeti.comSemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-zzee
16 gv.
16 saerTo gazeTi #41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
diorobisgan? amitom Cven davZariT
`otriadebi~ axalgorisken, magram
ukve igoeTTan Caxergili dagvxvda
gza samxedro da policiis manqane-
biT da ar gviSvebdnen marcxniv...
mere rac moxda mTelma msofliom
naxa `si-en-eniT~, `roiteriT~ da
a.S. amoswieT arqivi da Tqvenc
darwmundebiT am sityvebis simarT-
leSi.
_ batono generalo, an Tu gne-
bavT, ubralo adamiano slava bo-
risovo, romelsac mravali brZo-
la ginaxavT, iqneb miTxraT, ram
aiZula saqarTvelos xelisufleba
amgvar avantiuraze wasuliyo da
ase gaewira Tavisi samSoblo?
_ me namdvili samxedro var,
arasodes Cavreulvar ki arada,
sul mcire survilic ar mqonia
politikaSi gavxlarTuliyavi, mag-
ram Zalian gTxovT, kargad gaiaz-
roT is, rasac axla getyviT: _
CemTvis absoluturad gaugebaria,
is Tu, rogor SeuZlia qveynis me-
Taurs, naciis liders, uari Tqvas
araTu mTel regionze, aramed erT
sofelzec ki. erT kvadratul
metr, mSobliuri miwis naglejze.
ra amoZravebda da ra ubiZgebda mas
amisken? ra logikiT xelmZRvanel-
obda saakaSvili, me ratom me-
kiTxebiT? hkiTxeT mas da is gety-
viT, albaT. me janmrTeli fsiqikis
adamiani var da Tu maincdamainc
Cemi azri gainteresebT, gpasuxob,
rom CemTvis aseTi ugunureba abso-
luturad miuRebelia. ho, marT-
la...
sad arian axalgore-li devnilebi? ratomarian gaCumebuli? ra-tom ar iTxoven pasuxskiTxvaze _ vin gascabrZaneba, axalgoris ra-ionis saqarTvelos Se-madgenlobaSi uaryofisSesaxeb? vin da ratom,ufro sworad vis da ra-tom dasWirda axalgo-ris raionis mowyveta damokveTa saqarTvelos-
gan? ratom ar iTxovTTqven, qarTvelebo, am am-bebis detalur gamoZie-bas da ratom iSverTxels mxolod rus gene-ral borisovisken, rocais am marazmSi saerTodarafer SuaSia? (yviris).
ra gindaT Cemgan? sad xedavT
Cems danaSauls? me viTxovdi `de-
santnikebis~ Seyvanas axalgorSi
Tu Tqveni ministrebi? me vfiqrob,
rom agvistos avantiura saqarT-
velos xelisuflebas soliduri
kopensaciebis misaRebad sWirdebo-
da da dasavleTmac, xom naxeT, ram-
denime dReSi ra Tanxebis Semodi-
nebiT daadastura es?! agreTve, es
avantiura saakaSvils rogorc
etyoba, politikuri dividendebi-
saTvisac sWirdeboda da okeanis
gaRmidan, es dividendebi dauyov-
nebliv miiRo kidec.
ramdenime weli vimuSave saqar-
TveloSi, kerZod, aWaraSi dislo-
cirebuli ruseTis armiis me-12 ba-
zis xelmZRvanelad da Zalian bev-
ri qarTveli megobaric swored ma-
Sin SeviZine. aba, hkiTxeT mSvido-
biani mosaxleobas gnebavT gorSi,
gnebavT cxinvalis soflebSi, gne-
bavT, axalgorSi da gnebavT baTum-
Si _ an me, an romelime oficers
Tu jariskacs saqarTvelos xeli-
suflebis mier upatronod dagde-
buli qarTvelebisTvis rame dagvi-
Savebia? maSin bedis anabara mito-
vebul gorelebs hkiTxeT, saku-
Tarma gubernatorma, xelmZRvanel-
ma pirebma da im kaxa lomaiamac
rom miatovaT da konspiraciul bi-
nebSi imalebodnen, maSin vin ixsna
isini gaZarcvisa da morodioro-
bisgan? Tqven rogor fiqrobT, me
amxela diviziis generals ar Se-
meZlo gorSi (anda ufro aqeTac)
Semomeyvana saartilerio batalio-
ni, 30 tankidan gamexsna cecxli
da is gamekeTebina, rac saqarTve-
los samxedro xelmZRvanelobam
Caidina cxinvalSi? magram me, saa-
kaSvilisgan gansxvavebiT, sxvagva-
rad vimoqmede da martodmarto av-
tomanqana `uaziT~ gadavadgilde-
bodi da vamSvidebdi gorelebs,
rom Cveni mxridan araferi emuqre-
bodaT. aba, damisaxeleT Tundac
erTi incidenti, Tundac erTi mic-
valebulis gvari, romelic Cveni
gorSi yofnis dros gardaicvala?
ver damisaxelebT. imitom, rom
msgavsi faqti ar yofila.
_ batono generalo, dawynar-
diT da Tu SeiZleba, miTxariT Cve-
ni saerTo megobari generali ro-
man dumbaZe marTlac aslan abaSi-
Zis TxovniT gaaTavisuflebineT
saqarTvelos xelisuflebas Tu
ubralod, Tqveni misdami megobru-
li movaleoba SeasruleT mxo-
lod? rogorc iciT, saakaSvilma
is samSoblos moRalated Seracxa.
_ generali da Cemi megobari
roman dumbaZe moRalate ar iyo!
piriqiT, mas uRalates. diax, ro-
mani Cemi megobari iyo, is iyo `nas-
toiaSCi gruzin~. megobrebs, karg
megobrebs ar toveben da am sity-
vebs me mxolod namdvili qarTve-
lebi gamigeben. araviTari Txovna
da aseTebi me, aslan abaSiZisgan ar
mimiRia, radgan masTan araviTari
valdebuleba ar gamaCnia. roca
2008 wlis agvistoSi saqarTvelo
davtove me sityva Sevasrule da
romani moskovSi Caviyvane, magram
2012 wlis 21 maiss, saqarTvelos
xelisuflebis brZanebiT, Cemi me-
gobari, generali roman dumbaZe
moRalatebrivad Cacxriles Sems-
ruleblebma saxlTan _ moskovSi.
sxvaTaSoris, minda icodeT, rom
dakavebuli qilerebi Zalian sain-
tereso Cvenebebs iZlevian, romel-
Ta Sesaxebac Tqven yvela, Zalian
male moismenT. qalbatono irina,
isic minda giTxraT, rom detale-
bi, romlebzec dRes gesaubreT,
ukve Setanilia wignSi `voina
08.08.08~, romlis avtoric sam-
xedro analitikosi anatoli ciga-
nokia. girCevT waikiTxoT es wigni,
radgan bevr rames gaigebT kidev,
romlis Sesaxebac namdvilad Rirs
saubari. aba, bednierad iyaviT, nax-
vamdis.
_ erTi kiTxva maqvs kidev, ro-
melzec ar gipasuxiaT. ruseTis sam-
xedro wvrTnebisas ramdenad aris
SesaZlebeli Cvens teritoriaze
SemoWra da isic arCevnebis win?
_ Cemo keTilo. wvrTnebi ukve
damTavrda, damTavrda da nu speku-
lirebs saakaSvili. jer erTi, es
wvrTnebi novorosiiskisa da Crdi-
lo kavkasiis teritoriaze gaimar-
Ta, axla ki ukve vladivostokSi
mimdinareobs. dawynardiT, radgan
araferi gemuqrebaT da mSvidad
iarCevneT, meti ra giTxraT? nu
poka, ia poSol, do svidania.
ai, Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo, general
borisovis interviu ucvleli saxiT
da axla Tavad gaakeTeT daskvnebi.
irine gogosaSviliTbilisi, 24 seqtemberi
redaqciisagan: Zneli saTq-
melia, ra aris marTali da ra aris
tyuili general borisovis mo-
naTxrobSi. omi iseTi ubedurebaa,
sadac masSi monawile yvela mxares
Tavisi simarTle aqvs, Tumca arse-
bobs kidev erTi umniSvnelovanesi
da umTavresi mxare – xalxi, rom-
lis zurgze gadadis xolme xeli-
sufalTa Segnebuli provokaciebiT
Tu uneblie SecdomebiT gamowveu-
li ubedurebis mTeli simZime.
dro gaarkvevs, ama Tu im situ-
aciaSi putini tyuoda Tu saakaSvi-
li, magram erTi ram calsaxaa _
saqarTvelos Tavisi istoriuli
teritoriebi unda daubrundes da
vinc amas xels uSlis, is ar SeiZ-
leba saqarTvelos megobari iyos...
general borisovs Tavis, cota
ar iyos, sentimentalur interviu-
Si erTi ram aviwydeba _ rusuli
bombebi qarTul miwaze cvioda da
ara piriqiT... xolo is qarTveli
jariskacebi, romlebsac aseTi cxa-
re cremlebiT dastiris, swored
im rusuli bombebiT daixocnen...
2008 wlis agvistos omis aqamde ucnobi Sokimomgvreli detalebi
15 gv.
genereli borisovi qarTvel devnilebTan
gvesaubreba
rusudan SaraZe
_ rusudan, ras fiqrob, 1 oq-
tombers ra moxdeba, isev naciona-
lebi gaimarjveben Tu biZina ivaniS-
vili?
_ piradad me saqarTvTelos
Zliereba minda da ivaniSvilis ga-
marjveba. sul vloculob _ Rmer-
Tma daifaros es adamiani. imedi
maqvs biZina ivaniSvilis, yvelafers
rom Tavi daanebo _ uzrunveli
cxovreba, SesaniSnavi ojaxi, yvela-
feri gadado da kaciWamiebs Seeba.
am kacs bevri sikeTe aqvs gake-
Tebuli, gavaxiloT yvelam Tvali.
yvelanairi fufuneba hqonda da aqvs
am adamians da saqarTvelos sikeTe
rom ar undodes, saakaSvili unda
iyos maSin da mTlad mospoba undo-
des Cveni qveynis. SeiZleba an lo-
gikurad an aralogikurad amis ax-
sna? es warmoudgenelia.
sul amas vambob esdReebia da minda, rom ardamaviwydes. Cemi mxridanyvelanairi revanSi gamo-ricxulia. samagierosgadaxdisTvis ar vibrZvi,ubralod, samarTali un-da aRsdges da yvelafersTavisi saxeli unda daer-qvas.
mkvlelebi unda daisajon, unda
gasamarTldnen. da mimaCnia, rom Za-
lian didxans unda icocxlos saa-
kaSvilma, rom daitanjos ganvlili
cxovrebis sinanuliT.
_ eduard SevardnaZec ase
`dawyevla~, etyoba, viRacam, magram
sinanuli maincdamainc ar etyoba.
_ SevardnaZes verafriT Sevada-
reb saakaSvils, Tundac ruseTis
momxre damiZaxon an... jvarosani.
saakaSvili unda _ gasamarTl-
des, magram gasamarTldes samarT-
liani sasamarTlos mier. yvelas
axsovs CauSeskus ojaxis istoria.
ruminelebi dRemde ver gamosulan
am saSineli kompleqsidan da koS-
maridan.
Seicvleba male es reJimi da
Tavisufali sasamarTlo yvela saq-
mes gamoiZiebs. me mjera amis. dar-
wmunebuli var, ara mxolod guram
SaraZis saqme, aramed nacnobis, uc-
nobis, qarTvelis, araqarTvelis,
yvela daCagrulis saqme gaixsneba.
vin icis, ramdeni mkvleloba, Cagv-
ra, ukanonoba iqna Cadenili da Cven
ar viciT?! guram SaraZe gamorCeu-
li adamiani iyo da amitomac misi
mkvleloba gamorCeuli saqmea,
Torem amaT ramdeni sadistoba
aqvT Cadenili, yvela vnaxavT da
gamomJRavndeba es.
biZina ivaniSvilimova xelisuflebaSi dakoSmari, rac Cven gavia-reT, warsulSi mwaremogonebad darCeba.
Cemo iranda, me ar minda, Cemi
damokidebuleba mimdinare movle-
nebis mimarT ganze dgomad darCes
da amitom
msurs mivmarTo pa-timrebs, maTi ojaxis
wevrebs da axloblebs _Tqven araTu pativ daRirsebaayrili xarT, Tq-ven xarT namdvili gmire-bi. mTeli pasuxismgeblo-biT vambob: Zmebo, Tqveniwamebis xarjze, Tqvenipativayris da Tqveni Svi-lebis momavlis xarjzedanarCenma saqarTvelomunda gaixaros. is, racver SeZlo mamaCemis sisx-lSi mocurave sxeulma,aTasobiT daxocilma, esSeZles am biWebma.
ara mxolod saqarTvelo, mTe-
li msoflio Sokirebulia.
es biWebi xelis gulze unda
vataroT. gulSi unda CavisvaT. isi-
ni unda iyvnen amayi, radgan arian
wamebuli msxverplni mixeil saa-
kaSvilis reJimis...
_ icoda batonma guramma, ico-
da, visTan da rasTan gvqonda saqme.
ar epueboda am reJims da zvarakad
Seewira kidec.
_ Cems sicocxleSi Zalian bev-
ri geniosi mwerali, poeti da mar-
Tlac pativsacemi adamiani maxsovs,
rom cocxlebi iyvnen, werdnen leq-
sebs, sxva nawarmoebebs, moRvaweob-
dnen, magram, yovelgvari ironiis
gareSe vambob, zogierTi CemTvis
usayvarlesi da pativsacemi pirov-
neba dRes cocxali yofila da me
micvalebuli megona, radgan maTi
xma arsaidan ar ismis.
Cumad yofniT, pirSiwylis CagubebiT TavisgadarCena ar vici, risT-vis sWirdebaT.
fui, aseT sicocxles,Tuki gvami iqnebi sicocx-leSive.
daxvretili guram Sa-raZe gjobiaT axla aramxolod CemTvis, aramedqveynisTvis!
rogor SeiZleba Cumad ucqer-
de, ranairad ingreva da ispoba Se-
ni qveyana?!
vinmes ar egonos, rom guram
SaraZem ar icoda, rom moklavdnen,
rac dro gadis, viRac-viRacebi me-
ubnebian, rom ambobda mama amis Se-
saxeb.
jer kidev 1998 wels ambobda
mokvlis saSiSroebaze da mokles
im weliwads laSa... magram,
darwmunebuli iyaviT,mama Segnebulad wavidasikvdilze, msxverpladmiitana Tavisi Tavi daSvilebi...
mas SeeZlo damjdariyo da
wynarad ewera wignebi, magram is
usamarTlobaze Tavs ver daxrida,
ar iyo aseTi kaci guram SaraZe...
_ arCevnebSi miiReb monawileo-
bas?
_ ra Tqma unda, saakaSvils ver
davuTmob Cems xmas. isedac bevrs
gaayalbebs, albaT, magram ukve ve-
Raraferi veRar uSvelis.
gons moegos yvela, vinc api-
rebs saakaSvils misces xma _ mixe-
ili mainc ver gaimarjvebs da vinc
mas miscems xmas, mTeli cxovreba
sindisi ar moasvenebs, rom xma
mkvlels, kriminals, maniaks da na-
Ziralas, saqarTvelos moRalate
mters misca.
dabolos, Tqvens redaqtors ba-
ton vaxtangs udidesi mowiwebiT
da siyvaruliT movikiTxav. es aris
adamiani, mamuliSvili, vinc mTeli
am xnis ganmavlobaSi ibrZoda ise,
rom arafers moeloda jildod.
yvelas geferebiT da did mad-
lobas gixdiT, mTel redaqcias
TavdadebisTvis, simarTlis siyva-
rulisTvis, samSoblos sakeTil-
dReod TavganwirvisTvis...
iranda kalandaZe
biZina ivaniSvili mova xelisuflebaSida koSmari, rac Cven gaviareT,
warsulSi mware mogonebad darCeba
17saerTo gazeTi#41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
_ brZolis ra fazaSi
varT... seqtembris miwurulis-
Tvis... zogadad ra viTarebaa?
ras gvauwyebs andrezuli dro.
_ brZola midis ersa da sa-
tanas Soris. gaaWaRarava, gaa-
ogna xalxi am moloxma, quCaSi
mimaval (Semxvedr) adamianebs
veRar cnob, iseTi gaxunebuli
saxiT dadis xalxi... qveyana
saxtad darCa amaTi daujerebe-
li, fataluri sicruiT, uzne-
obiT, tiraniiT...
Cven gagviCnda, anu Cven Tvi-
Ton SevqmeniT antigmiri _
yvaryvare _ yvela Tavisi uar-
yofiTi atributikiT: (sisasti-
kiT, simxdaliT, sicruiT, Ra-
latiT, mliqvnelive (igive am-
partavnebiT!). Cven TviTon Se-
vuwyveT xeli Cvens bnelSi am
uzneobis ayvavebas.
* * *
exla `saxtad darCeni-li~ eris (ieriSi) miste-ria unda daiwyos `qaje-Tis cixeze~ _ es ieriSi da
`misteria~ yvelafers gulisx-
mobs, rasac ufali SegvaZlebi-
nebs (gvikarnaxebs).
* * *
Cveni brZola da ajanyeba
monebis ajanyebs ar unda daem-
gvanos, eseni _ es, droSi mov-
lenili `sxvani~ _ qarTveli
eris istoriul mexsierebas _
kulturas da inteleqts ebrZ-
vian _ Cveni ieriSi inteleq-
tualuri, sakralur-sakraman-
tuli unda iyos mamulis, anu
samSoblos gadasarCenad.
* * *
Tu kacobriobisistorias Tvals gava-devnebT monebis ajan-yebasac ki beladi (li-deri) sWirdeba, Cvenxom davemgvaneT, anuviqeciT (Tu gvaqcies)
civilizebul monebad_ XXI saukuneSi tira-ni davisviT, romel-mac xvTismSoblis wi-lxvedri qveyana sa-koncentracio bana-kad gviqcia!...
ganviTarebis maRal etapze
mdgar kulturul rasas da mis
ganTavisuflebas monobisgan,
anu socialur-zneobrivi da ma-
terialuri (fizikuri) Zala-
dobisgan _ veragi monstrebis-
gan _ mamaci _ qarizmuli, in-
teleqtualuri lideri (mte-
ri) sWirdeba, romelic brZo-
lis garkveul etapze gmirad
qcevas SeZlebs!!! es ar aris ad-
vili, magram axla uflis neba
Cndeba gmiris gaCenis niSnebi da
SesaZlebloba...
* * *
_ (...) vin aris gmiri da ro-
dis iSveba igi? gmiri iSveba ma-
Sin, rodesac eris yofna-ar-
yofnis wami udgeba da misi ga-
darCenis aucileblobis niSani
dgeba... maSin gmirs TviTon
ufali qmnis... aCens TiTqos ar-
saidan TiTqos mkvdari garemo-
dan mistiuri, logosuri sivr-
cidan gamodis gmiri _ uec-
rad...
_ mamulis gamoxsnis `mis-
teriaSi~ ra igulisxmeba?
* * *
_ mamulis gamoxsnis sakra-
luri ieriSi (misteria). sru-
li (mcxrali) mTvariT gas-
ruldeba oqtombris pirvelSi!!!
manamde ki bolo kvira, bolo
dReebi unda gagrZeldes perma-
nentuli, sulieri ieriSiT _
es unda iyos (rogorc saidum-
lo andrezul codnaSia) yove-
li xorcielis (mokvdavi adami-
ani) uSiSrobis sakralur
zRvarze, xorcisa da sulis
xelSeuvleb mijnaze gasvlis
rituali... eri unda gadavides
`gaucxovebis~ fazaSi: es iqneba
mSvidobiani misiis ieriSi... `i-
eriqonis sayviriT~ daZleuli,
dafxrewili SiSis da monst-
ris kedeli...
* * *
_ rodesac dgeba mamacis ga-
moxsnis gadamwyveti etapi (wa-
mi), aq yoveli mokvdavi gmirad
unda iqces... maSin mkvdrebic
dgebian saflavidan... da saom-
rad mogyvebian _ rogorc `bax-
trionSia~...
_ asea qajebTan omSic...
_ diax, asea, roca mteri
(kosmiuri Zala) imdenad saxi-
faToa rom uxilavis zRvarze
dgas da sakuTari xalxis wina-
aRmdeg xmarobs yovelgvar
iaraRs _ akrZalulsac ki... am
dros iqmneba winaaRmdegobis
energia, romelsac Tavisufle-
bis mTvare gamohyavs...
* * *
_ Cvens qveyanaSi ax-la anti gmiri (fsev-dolideri) fsevdopartiaTa kasta moqme-debs _ romlebic mib-muli arian anti gmir-ze da Rupaven qveya-nas...
gasaognebelia: na-cionalebi pirdapiracxadeben xmas Tu Cvenar mogvcemT, leibo-ristebs mieciTo! _ ai,sadamde mividnen...
edp, qristian-de-mokratebi, memarjve-neebi uecrad qveynismoRalateebad iqcnen:sakuTari skamis da am-biciis gadarCenis, er-is yofna-aryofnis Ja-ms saakaSvils mieweb-nen.
es, samwuxarod, qarTveli
eris maradiul mankier Tviseba-
Ta gamovlenaa!
_ rogor ganvarCioT gmiri
da anti gmiri. SeuZlia xalxs
maTi garCeva: exla xelisufle-
bam Savi da TeTri erTmaneTSi
auria, keTili da boroti gada-
adgilda...
_ WeSmaritad dgasmware Jami faseulo-baTa aRrevisa, Rirse-baTa damcrobis dauRirsTa aRdginebisada zeobisa! rodesacqveyanaSi uniWos aqebda aqeb imitom, romamiT Rirseuli daam-dablo, rodesac ma-maTmavalTa, marodi-orTa, pedofilTa pa-radebs da koncertebsudgam. istoriul qve-yanas da taZris ka-rebs `krazebiT~ ung-rev, es SemaZrwunebe-li, bedisweruli dr-oa!
_ romlis daZleva garemos,
gemovnebis moTxovna ki ara
eris istoriuli misiaa, _ am
dros, am viTarebas antigmirebi
qmnian maTive xelSewyobiT.
_ arsebobs didi Ralatis
SesaZlebloba da ara mxolod
albaToba, Cveni garnisis omi am
tipis RalatiT wavageT da is-
toria ara erTi saukuniT gag-
viCerda! Cven krwanisi am tipis
RalatiT wavageT!... da istoria
aqac gagviCerda. am Ralatis Se-
degebs dRemde vimkiT...
* * *
_ rodis, romel droSi ud-
geba qveyanas, ers, aseTi `qaju-
ri~ fataluri mteri pirispir
da ra aCens mas?
_ igi arsebobs da iarsebebs
yovelTvis warsulSic da moma-
valSic. igi iSveba Savi mkis sa-
tanis mier eris STanTqmisT-
vis... swored mis sapirispirod
aCens ufali `uxorco meomris~
enigmur gmirTa energias, rome-
lic erTiandeba uflis nebas-
Tan da xvTiur da miwier si-
nergiad iqceva saxifaTo Zalis
dasaTrgunad _ sikeTis gada-
sarCenad, Tavisuflebis mTva-
ris gamosayvanad~ (rogorc bax-
trionSia), anu rogorc rusTa-
velSia: `gamoeSva mTvare gvel-
sa~...
swored aseTi mTvaris ga-
mosvlis dRe dgeba _ 1 oqtom-
bers_ es mcxrali mTvaris
dRea da mTvare `mamaa Cveni~.
Cven mzis da mTvaris Svilebs
mnaTobad sakraluri dro unda
dagvidges?.
vimeoreb! yovelimtris damarcxeba (Se-ucnobis Zalis daZle-va) SeiZleba sulierda xorciel ZalTasakraluri ieriSiT,romelic ganpirobe-bulia winaparTa su-lebis karnaxiT daxvTiur ZalTa (ange-lozTa) monawileo-biT! _ amas gansazRv-ravs adamianis rwmenada simamace! uSiSroe-ba? dadga Cveni `uxor-cobis Jami...~
* * *
werilis dasasruls aseTi
ram minda giTxraT:
rodesac baxtrionis gmire-
bi brundebian da sakaciT ahyavT
mTaze (TiTqos mzisken) micva-
lebulebi: uecrad: saidumlo
sivrcidan ucnobi xma ikiTxavs
_ vin arian es micvalebu-
lebi, anu mkvdrebi, romeli
omidan modixarTo?
_ eseni mkvdrebi ki ara, ga-
marjvebuli gmirebi ariano, maT
gandevnes mteri sakuTari miwi-
dan SewirviT da TavganwirviT
da gadaarCines samSoblo, _ pa-
suxobs kvlav ucnobi xma TiT-
qos logosidan...
asea, rodesac dge-ba gadamwyveti Jamimamulis gamoxsnisT-vis. SesaZloa, yovelimokvdavi (garda wiwo-lasi) gmirad iqces da
micvalebulebmac co-cxlebTan erTad io-mon da uecrad xvTiS-vilebi gamocxadd-nen...
asea `qajebTan omis~ andre-
zul swavlebaSi!
axla gaCnda gmiris dabade-
bis niSnebi: da kaci, romelsac
ufali niSans miscems (aZlevs),
mas SeuZlia gmirad iqces da es
bednieri wami dagvidges.
1 oqtombers axaligmiri da gmirad qceu-li eri gamoiyvans Ta-visuflebis mTvares...
axla `saxtad darCenili~ eris mSvidobiani ieriSi unda daiwyos `qajeTis cixeze~
Tavisuflebis mTvaris misteria...
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saqarTvelos dasamoneblad da
misi rjulis Sesacvlelad ur-
julo mters qarTveli kacisTvis,
Tavs araerTi ubedureba daute-
xavs. qarTvels klavdnen, rozgav-
dnen, scemdnen, Tavs aWridnen, mag-
ram is mainc qarTvelad da marT-
lmadideblad rCeboda. arc erT
urjulosa da gadamTiels qarTve-
lis damorCileba da misTvis Rir-
sebis Cakvla ar ukadrebia qarT-
veli kacis gaupatiurebis gziT
ar ukadrebia. eess eerrTTxxeell 11666600
wweellss ((mmRRvvddlliiss ggaauuppaattiiuurreebbiiTT))
ggaabbeeddeess yyiizziillbbaaSSeebbmmaa ddaa aammaassaacc bbii-
ZZiinnaa CCoollooyyaaSSvviilliiss mmeeTTaauurroobbiiTT
bbaaxxttrriioonniiss aajjaannyyeebbaa ddaa qqaarrTTvveell-
TTaa ggaaTTaavviissuufflleebbaa mmoohhyyvvaa.. mamaka-
cis gaupatiureba, Zaladobis gar-
da udidesi codva _ sodomizmi,
suliwmindis gmobis Semdeg yvela-
ze momkavdinebeli codvaa da
arafrisdidebiT mieteveba mis Cam-
den adamians. qarTvelma genetiku-
rad, Sinaganad icis es. es fromu-
la genetikuri kodidan modis.
mniSvneloba arc imas aqvs, sodo-
misti (pederasti) biologiurad
xar Tu azrovnebiT, uSualod mo-
nawileob am sazizRrobaSi Tu
sxva gziT axorcieleb mas. es sa-
tanistebis mTavari ritualicaa,
ra drosac mTavaria aqtis Sesru-
leba da masSi monawileoba. maso-
nebis saTayvanebeli kerpic, “bafo-
meti” orsqesiani rqebiani arsebaa.
“saZmoSi” mxolod mamkacTa arse-
bobisa da dauojaxeblobis ga-
moHhomoseqsualur urTierTobebs
misdevdnen jvarosnebic _ masonTa
winamorbednic. maT medalionzec
erT cxenze erTad mjdomi ori ma-
makacic amitomaa gamosaxuli da
ara gavrcelebuli azris mixed-
viT_ usaxsrobis gamo erT cxen-
ze jdomiT. ddaassaavvlleellii lliiddrreebbiicc
““rrqqeebbss”” iimmiittoomm ggaammoossaaxxaavveenn TTiiTTee-
bbiiTT aassee xxSSiirraadd,, rroomm iissiinniicc ssaattaa-
nniiss TTaayyvvaanniissmmcceemmlleebbii aarriiaann. iyo
periodi, kaTolicizmic (qonebri-
vi konkurenciis gamo) devnida
jvarosnebs, Tumca mas Sedeg bev-
ri ram Seicvala “qristianul da-
savleTSi”. kaTolikur taZrebSi
dRes mamaTmavali padreebi weren
jvars pederast wyvilebs, radgan
“dasavluri Rirebulebebis mixed-
viT” es “adamianis uflebebis
dacvas” warmoadgens?! qristes aT
mcnebaSi, qristianobaSic da mar-
TlmadideblobaSic es kvlavac
momakvidnebel codvas warmoad-
gens. kacobriobis dasaRupad
kvlav im sodom-gomoras codvebis
ganmeorebaa saWiro. im codvebis,
risTvisac mama-RmerTma gaanadgu-
ra kacobrioba. “liberastebma”
mis am sasjels eqstremizmi, qse-
nofobia, radikalizmi da funda-
mentalizmi daarqves. `jvarosani
tamplierebis” memkvidre masonur-
globalisturi samyarosTvis an-
tiqristes gasabatoneblad, iseTi-
ve aucilebelia sodomizmis da-
nergva, rogorc amas qristes
jvarcmis win sCadiodnen. rodesac
babilonisa da iudeis kepTayvanis-
mcemlebi ritualuri seqsmagiis
SesrulebiT, dacemul angelozs-
raziels iZaxebdnen da mas msxvep-
lad adamians swiravdnen. “perest-
roikidan” moyolebuli ”demokra-
tia, adamianis uflebebis dacva da
sityvis Tavisufleba” axali “ms-
ofliosa da msoflio moqalaqee-
bis” mexotbe globalistebs, so-
domizmis gavrcelebisa da damk-
vidrebisTvis sWirdebaT. mamonac,
aseTi TayvaniscemisTvis, “ZlierTa
ama qveynisaTa” fufunebasa da
didZal qonebas hpirdeba. “adamia-
nis uflebebic” mTel msoflioSi
rogoradac icveba, amasac yvela
vxedavT. televiziebiT gavrcele-
bulma, patimrebis Seuracxyofisa
da wamebis Semzaravma kadrebma
yvela normaluri adamiani SeZra.
prezidentad wodebulic, Turme,
“gabrazebulia” da am faqtis Cam-
deni yvela damnaSave daisjeba da
pasuxs agebs. bunebrivia, am damna-
SaveebSi mas arc Tavisi is e.w.
gundi da arc Tavisi Tavi ar ugu-
lisxmia. isini, visac ezoTeri-
kosma, mecnierma da amJamad po-
litmatimarma, saxalxo moZraoba
“saqarTvelos gadarCenisTvis”
erT-erTma damfuZnebelma malxaz
gvelukaSvilma sociopaTebi uwo-
da. (malxazi da misi mowafe la-
Sa Cxenkeli, dRes ararsebuli ga-
datrialebis mowyobis mcdelo-
bisTvis sxva udanaSaulo pati-
marTa msagavsad, cixeSi sasjels
ixdian.) mamaTmavlobis gaprotes-
tebis gamo srulebiT udanaSau-
lod, cixeSi gamomwyvdeulia 8
marTlmadidebeli adamianic. swo-
red globalisti masonebis ideo-
logiaa mTel msoflioSi pedersa-
tebis, lesboselebisa da codvis
Svilebis momravleba. am davale-
bis Sesasruleblad ki marTlma-
dideblur qveynebSi (sxva “moq-
ristiano qveynebSi” isedac hyavT)
da saqarTvelos xelisuflebaSic,
“nacionalebis” kargad SerCeuli
sciopatTa cnobili jgufi moiy-
vanes. didi mcdelobis miuxeda-
vad, saakaSvilis sulZaRlma xe-
lisuflebam, qarTveloSi prde-
rastiisadmi ltolva vera da ver
danerga. amitom cixeebSi Seyrili
58 000 udanaSaulo qarTvel ka-
cze da axalgazrdebze seqsualur
Zaladobis (erT kacze aTi da me-
ti naZiraliT) ganxorcileba ga-
dawyvita. amiT axalaia-merabiSvi-
lis naZiralebi patimris e.w
”komprometirebasac” axdendnen,
aSantaJeben da Seuracyofis gam-
xelis sababiT, Tvlidnen, rom
aseTi adamiani ukve “maTia”. yve-
laze saSineleba ki is aris, rom
sawameb patimars Cafxuts imisT-
vis axuravdnen, rom bevri aseTi
patimari Seuracxofas sikvdils
amjobinebs da kedelze Tavis mi-
narcxebiT Tavis mokvlis mcde-
lobebic mravlad iyo. saakaSvi-
lis jalaTebs ki saR gonebaze
myofi da cocxali adamiani sWir-
debaT. patimarma kargad unda Se-
igrZnos tkivilica da, rac mTava-
ria, Seuracxyofa. WWiirriissuuffaall-
TTaaTTvviiss ddaaCCeexxiill-ddaassaaxxiiCCrreebbuull-
ggaakkeerriillii ddaa ggaarrddaaccvvlliillii ppaattiimm-
rriiss ddaabbrruunneebbaacc,, xxSSiirraadd iimmiissTTvviiss
xxddeebbooddaa,, rroomm aamm ggzziiTT mmookklluullii
ppaattiimmrriiss oorrggaannooeebbiiTTaacc ffaarruullaadd
vvaaWWrroobbeenn kkiiddeecc!!.. organoebis ga-
yidvis msoflioSi uZvires biz-
nessac, saqarTveloSi jandacvis
yvela sferoSi “cxvirCayofili
qalbatoni” mfarvelobs. am kadre-
bis Semdegac ityvis vinme, rom sa-
akaSvili qarTvelTa genocids ar
eweva da mizanmimarTulad ar xo-
cavs qarTvel xalxs? Zaladobri-
vi gaupatiurebis bevr msxvrepls
fsiqiuri problemebi Seeqmna. bev-
rma Seuracxyofil sicocxles
TviTmkvleobiT misi dasruleba
amjobina. bevri axalgazrda ki
aseTi fsiqiuri travmis gamo Sem-
dgomSi moZaladed, SesaZloa, Ta-
vad iqces. udanaSaulo sandro
girgvlianic amgvari seqsualuri
Zaladobis Sedegad gaweuli wina-
aRmdegobis msxverpli gaxda. am
Zaladobis ganxorcilebis mizezi
ki, merabiSvilis mfarvelobis
qveS myofi pederasti gurgena do-
naZe iyo. sacodavi irina enuqiZe
saRsalamaTi, sanaqebo Svilis mkv-
lelobis garda, Svilis am Seu-
racxyofasac ver Seegua. samwuxa-
roa, rom qarTveli xalxi manama-
de ver gamofxizlda, sanam qarT-
veli kacebze am formiT ar gan-
xorcielda Seuracxyofa. gaigeT
Tqve nexvisgan gakeTebulo nacio-
nalebo da miso momxreebo, rom
qarTveli arasdros Seegueba mama-
kacuri Rirsebis Seuracxyofas!
aRarasdros Seegueba sulSi Ca-
furTxebas! axla gindaT putinis
damontaJebuli kadrebi daarqviT
amas, gind biZina ivaniSvilis!
TTqqvveenn ppaassuuxxii uunnddaa aaggooTT mmTTeellii
eerriiss wwiinnaaSSee ddaa aaggooTT mmTTeellii ssiimm-
kkaaccrriiTT!! pirvel rigSi ki pasuxi
unda agos saakaSvilma axalaiebis
paTolog ojaxTan erTad. ara
“sistemuri cvlilebiT”, rogorc
es bevrs dauCemebia, aramed yve-
lafris cvlilebiT da SesaZloa,
aseTi maniakebis kastraciiTa da
sterilizaciiTac ki, rac evropis
bevr qveyanaSi xorcieldeba, roca
arasrulwlovanTa seqsualuri
Zaladoba xorcieldeba. “ganaTle-
bis warmatebuli reforma” imisT-
vis gindodaT, manadaturebis xe-
liT koloniaSi gadagzavnil
arasrulwlovanebze maTze aseTi
Zaladoba rom gangexorcielebi-
naT ara? pedofiliac “dasavluri
Rirebulebebisa da ZviradRirebu-
li biznesis” miRwevaa xom? ami-
tom erCiT ara marTlmadideblur
sarwmunoebasac. amitom varT qar-
Tvelebi fundamentalistebi da
eqstremistebi ara? sasjelaRsru-
lebiT departamentSi zedamxedve-
lis kontoliT saguladagulod
gadaRebuli wamebis CanawerebiT
remdenjer damtkbarxarT Tqve
Taxsirebo? yvelanairi ficica da
mtkicic imis Taobaze, rom saakaS-
vilma da xelisuflebam araferi
icoda tyuilia da “linCis we-
siT” gasamarTlebisgan Tavis daZ-
vrenis mcdelobaa. wyeulimc
iyavT! wyeulimc iyos is muceli,
romelmac Tqven gataraT da gSo-
baT! wyeulimc iyos is “Tesli”,
saidanac gamravldiT da warmoiS-
viT!
`adamianis uflebebis” darRve-
va erTi sakiTxia. meore sakiTxia
is antiqristianurli zneobrivi
mxare, ris damkvirdebasac dRevan-
deli xelisuflebis mesveurni
saqarTveloSi cdiloben. cixeSi
moxvedrili patimrebis umeteso-
bis gaupatiurebiT, qveyanaSi ma-
maTmamavalTa e.w. pedersatTa
ricxvis gazrdas, eris degradaci-
isa da qarTvelis garyvnis mcde-
loba hqvia da ara raRac “demok-
ratiuli uflebebis darRveva”!
ar gveyo es “dasavluri mariaJo-
ba” da qulebis Cawera? yvelafers
Tavisi saxeli unda davarqvaT! is,
rac saqarTveloSi xdeba qarT-
velTa saboloo gatexvas isaxavs
miznad. es ar aris “adamianis uf-
lebebis darRveva”. eess qqaarrTTvveelliiss
ggaappeeddeerraasstteebbiiss mmiizzaannmmiimmaarrTTuullii
ggeeggmmaaaa,, rraaddggaann mmrraavvllaadd mmyyooff ““bbii-
llooggiiuurraadd ddaa aazzrroovvnneebbiiTT ppeeddee-
rraasstt nnaacciioonnaalleebbss”” vvaaJJkkaaccii ddaa
ggaauutteexxaavvii qqaarrTTvveellii kkaaccii aarr
ssWWiirrddeebbaaTT.. moralurad gatexilsa
da Seuracxofils ki advilad ga-
akeTebineben imas, rac surT. esaa
globalist-masonTa msoflio ba-
tonobis gegmac. mona-morCili uf-
lismieri eri, romelsac yvela-
fers gaakeTebineben! “nuras ukac-
ravad, ver mogarTviT”_ Se marT-
la salaxana saakaSvilo! yvela
patimari, romelic aseTi Seu-
racxyofis msxvepli gaxda, gmiria
da veravin gabedavs maTze augis
Tqmas. e.w. “liberaluri faseu-
lobebis” agitatorebi da propa-
gandistebi, grantebis gamo, qseno-
fobiaze, seqsualuri umciresobe-
bis uflebebis dacvaze molaybeni,
gladnis cixeSi momxdari araada-
mianuri Seuracxofisa da Zalado-
bis iseTive Tanamonawileni arian,
rogorc Tavad mixeil saakaSvili
da baCo axalaiac, visi xelmZRane-
lobis drosac es kadrebi iqna ga-
daRebuli. botoqsiT tuCebdabe-
rili xaTuna kalmaxeliZec, rome-
lic aseT wamebebs gaTxleSili
mTvrali araerTxel daswrebia.
igive vaniCka merabiSvilic, rome-
lic yvelas da yvelafers usmens
da arc es unda gamohparvoda. ami-
tom xom ar daiTanxma saaka pre-
mier-ministorbaze, rom winaswar
icoda, ra Canawerebic gavrcelde-
boda?! scenari xom ar meordeba.
nacebis mosvlis winac xalxis
moTxovniT Sss- ministri ar ga-
dadga?! ppeeddeerraasstteebbiissaa ddaa ggaaddaaxxrrii-
lleebbiiss ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii mmoommrraavvlleebbaa
((rrooggoorrcc ssaaeerroo,, iissee ssaassuulliieerroo
wwrreeeebbSSii)) ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss aammJJaammiinnddee-
llii xxlliissuufflleebbiissTTvviiss ddaassaavvlleeTTii-
ddaann mmiiRReebbuullii ddaavvaalleebbaaaa.. Tu “ma-
Sasadame evropeli” xar, didi ra-
odenobis pederast-lesboselebis,
transvestitebisa da gadaxrile-
bis arsebobas unda afiqsirdebde
qveyanaSi. amas ki, rogorc yvela-
fer sxva uzneobas, saqarTvelos
samociqulo marTlmadidebuli
eklesia udgas mTavar barierad.
amis gamo igegmeba eklesiaSi rac
SeiZleba meti mamaTmavlis Caner-
gvac. aammJJaammiinnddeellii vviiccee-mmeerriicc,, mmaa-
mmuukkaa aaxxvvlleeddiiaanniicc aammiiss ggaammoo eemmzzaa-
ddeebbaa eeppiisskkooppoossoobbiissTTvviiss ddaa ggaaggaanniiaa
ppeettrree-ppaavvlloobbiiss mmaarrxxvvaaSSiicc aammiiss ggaa-
mmoo uuTTxxrraa TTaavviiss mmeeggoobbaarrss:: ““mmaallee
eeppiisskkooppoossii ggaavvxxddeebbii ddaa ssaaeerrTToodd
ggaavvaauuqqmmeebb aamm mmaarrxxvvaassoo””!! mmaammuukkaa aaxx-
vvlleeddiiaanniiss sseeqqssuuaalluurrii oorriieennttaa-
cciiiiss ggaaTTvvaalliisswwiinneebbiiTT,, ppaarrttiiaarrqqiiss
ggaaddaayyeenneebbiiss nnaacceebbiiss ssuurrvviilliiss SSeemm-
ddeegg,, ssaavvaarraauuddoodd,, ““mmaammaaTTmmaavvaall
eeppiisskkoossppoossTTaa llaaSSqqrriiss”” CCaanneerrggvvaa
iiggeeggmmeebbaa ssaappaattrriiaarrqqoossaa ddaa eekklleessii-
aaSSii.. erTia, ramdenad miscemT,
qarTveli xalxi patriarqze amis
19 gv.
qarTvelTa gapederastebisa da galesboselebis gegma am xelisuflebasdasavleTidan aqvs miRebuli...
19saerTo gazeTi#41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
erT-erTi kargi oratori,
da niWieri “naci” gaxlavT
isnis maJoritari deputato-
bis kandidati giorgi vaSaZe.
amaswinaT vismendi mis inter-
vius, yvelafers dahpirda is-
nis mosaxleobas: wylis
problemis gadaWras, Sida
ezoebis mowesrigebas, polik-
linikis gaxsnas (aRmoCnda,
rom isnis raionSi polikli-
nika ar arsebobs), dasaqmebis
problemis gadaWras. Jurna-
listma dausva logikuri ki-
Txva: aqamde rame Tu gagike-
TebiaT isnis raionis sake-
TildReodo. vaSaZem upasuxa:
arao, (da rodi gaCerda erT
ara-ze) magram me iseTi ga-
mocdileba maqvs menjmentSio
... da daaxloebiT aTiode wu-
Ti isaubra mis ganaTlebasa
da miRwevebze.
Tavis yvelaze didi miR-
wevad biometriuli paspor-
tebis SemoRebas asaxelebs.
miuxedavad imisa, rom mosax-
leobis umetesi nawili bio-
metriuli, Cipiani pasporte-
bis miRebas uaryofiTad Sex-
vda.
ambobs, rom qveynis erTi-
ani erovnuli produqti
2003 wels Semdeg 3,5-jer
gaizarda, Tumca arafers am-
bobs gazrdil fasebze, sava-
raudod, arc ecodineba ra
Rirs litri rZe, romelic
ukve saSualo fenis adamaine-
bisaTvis fufunebis sagani
gaxda.
ukvirs, ratom ar surs
qarTvel glexs daTesos ame-
rikuli simindi, Tumca,
rogorc gairkva, axali teq-
nologiebiT gamoyvanili Tes-
lisgan miRebuli ara mxo-
lod mosavalia mavnebeli,
aramed am Teslis gamoyeneba,
ramdenime wlis Semdeg miweb-
sac soflis meurneobisaTvis
gamousadegars xdis minimum
30 weli mainc.
ggiioorrggii vvaaSSaaZZiiss ““mmooRRvvaawwee-
oobbaazzee”” ssaammooqqaallaaqqoo rreeeessttrrSSii
kkooaalliicciiaa ““qqaarrTTuullii ooccnneebbiiss””
aaxxaallggaazzrrdduullii mmooZZrraaoobbiiss
lliiddeerrii daviT facaciammeessaauubbrraa::
_ dazustebiT SemiZlia
ganvacxado, giorgi vaSaZe
“samoqalaqo reestrSi” yve-
la TanamSromlisagan xelze
fuls iRebda. gamouwerda
TanamSromlebs premiebs, maT
es premiebi angariSidan unda
moexsnaT da giorgisTvis ma-
gidaze daedoT. es kanoni
iyo. qurduli mentaliteti
aRar gvindao, qurduli men-
taliteti aRar arsebobs sa-
qarveloSio, cixeebSi “Savi
samyaros” warmomadgenlebi
cocxebze unda davsvaTo, da
am dros giorgi vaSaZe, “sa-
moqalaqo reestris” yofili
ufrosi, iusticiis minist-
ris yofili moadgile da am-
Jamad isnis raionis maJori-
tari deputati, TanamSrom-
lebisagan xelze iRebda fu-
ls.
hkiTxeT giorgi vaSaZes,
maSin, roca nacionaluri
moZraoba aseT piars ukeTes
qarTul jars, mas ratom ar
aqvs samxedro savaldebulo
samsaxuri gavlili? erTxel
iyo wasuli rezervSi, sadac
realurad mxolod 2 dRe im-
yofeboda. danarCeni dro Ta-
vis ojaxSi gaatara. rogor
moxda, rom samxedro saval-
debulo samsaxurisTvis var-
gis adamians, arc samxedro
kaTedra gauvlia da arc sam-
xedro savaldebulo samsaxu-
ri?
rogorc ukve mogexsene-
baT, daviT facacia, samar-
Taldamcvelebma gasul pa-
raskevs daakaves. paraskevs
mTeli ori saaTis ganmavlo-
baSi dahyvebodnen facacias
policielebi axlomaxlo.
undodaT, rogorme provoka-
ciaze wamoegoT. provokacia-
ze ver wamoages, magram mainc
daiWires da 40 dRiT Tavi-
suflebis aRkveTa miusajes.
sasamarTlo dabrazSi ad-
ministrraciuli wesiT
gasasamarTlebeli faca-
cia fexze borkilebdade-
buli Seiyvanes. im dRes
facacias kidev erTxel
unda Sevxvedrodi, mas
CemTvis unda gadmoeca im
adamianebis sia, romlebic
giorgi vaSaZis “kuTvnil”
samoqalaqo reestrSi ax-
loblobiTa da CawyobebiT
moxvdnen: eseni iyvnen, gi-
orgis yofili Tanaklase-
lebi da megobrebi. samwuxa-
rod, facaciam CemTvis am si-
is gadmocema ver moaswro.
giorgi vaSaZe saarCevno
maraTonis peridoSi mudam
amaxvilebs yuradRebas oja-
xis institutze. vaSaZeebis
saxelganTqmul gvarze wig-
nic ki daiwera, romlis av-
torebi gaxlavT: guta vaSaZe
(giorgis mama), giorgi vaSaZe
da daviT vaSaZe (giorgis
Zma). vaSaZeebis ojaxi, mogex-
senebaT, WiaTuraSi
cxovroben da isini
iq marTlac saxel-
ganTqmulebi arian.
adre did skandal-
Sic iyvnen gaxveul-
ni. vaSaZis deda nana
modebaZe, rusulis
pedagogi iyo. gakve-
Tilze WiaTuris #9
skolis moswavle
Temur modebaZe Tavis
areSi ise Zlierad s-
cema, rom bavSvi da-
invalidda. Temuri
dResac WiaTuraSi
cxovrobs 25-is ma-
Raros teritoriaze.
nana modebaZes am
faqtis Semdeg pedagogiuri
praqtika aekrZala. cixeSic
unda CaesvaT, magram vaSaZee-
bi midgnen-modgenen, xalxi
Seawuxes da “pedagogi” pa-
timrobas gadaarCines. savara-
udod, am saqmis mifarcxvaSi
vaSaZeebs ruben asaniZe daex-
mara. ruben asaniZe im peri-
odSi dasavleT saqarTvelos
policiis ufrosi gaxldaT.
igi giorgi vaSaZis biZaa, de-
idas qmari.
giorgi vaSaZe xSirad aR-
niSnavs, rom mis ojaxSi yve-
la Tavisi saqmis profesio-
nalia: “sxvaTa Soris, Cems
Zmasac saxelmwifo marTvis
magistratura aqvs damTavre-
buli, magram “kinocentrSi”
muSaobs, SesaniSnavi prodiu-
seria”. ar vici, ramdenad
profesionalia daviT vaSaZe
Tavisi saqmis, Tumca maszec
vrceldeba sakmaod skanda-
luri informacia. magram ma-
sala imdenad delikaturi
Sinaarsis iyo, gadavwyvite,
am etapze, am informaciis ga-
moqveynebisagan Tavi Semekave-
bina.
girogi vaSaZis meuRle _
qeTevan siWinava, vano Cxar-
tiSvilis disSvili _ `diax,
Cemi meuRle vano CxartiSvi-
lis disSvilia. garda imisa,
rom erTmaneTi mogvewona,
mniSvnelovania isic, Tu ro-
gor ojaxSi gaizarda. erTna-
iri Rirebulebebi da faseu-
lobebi aqvT Cvens ojaxebs.”
– es gancxadeba giorgi vaSa-
Zem 2010 wels gaakeTa. Tum-
ca 2010 wlis Semdeg bevri
ram Seicvala. dRes vano
CxartiSvili nacionaluri
partiis warmomadgenlebs po-
litikur gvamebs uwodebs.
dRes, albaT, giorgi vaSaZe
aRar da veRar ityvis, rom
vano CxartiSvils da mis
ojaxs erTnairi Rirebulebe-
bi gaaCniaT, imis miuxedavad,
rom oficialuri informaci-
iT, vano CxartiSvilis “dana-
zogi” 100 milion evros Se-
adgens. amboben, qeTevan siWi-
navas ganaTlebas da ara mxo-
lod ganaTlebas biZa afinan-
sebdao. arc is unda movi-
kiTxoT, albaT, rogor gada-
ixada aseTi grandiozuli
qorwili wyvilma. rogorc
restoran “mcxeTa siTis” yo-
filma TanamSromelma miambo,
vaSaZis qorwilSi, mxolod
gare gaformebasa da yvavi-
lebSi daixarja 10 000 do-
lari.
vaSaZeebis wyvils hyavT
Svili, romelsac sayvareli
prezidentis saxeli mixeili
hqvia.
rasakvirvelia, me davu-
kavSirdi giorgi vaSaZes. min-
doda gavsaubrebodi, yvela
aq dasmul sakiTxTan dakav-
SirebiT. samwuxarod, giorgi
vaSaZem komentarze uari gan-
micxada.
Tamuna keSelava
giorgi vaSaZe TanamSromlebs premiebs
`awerda~, `politikuri gvamis~ da
`amomrCevelTa momsyidvelis~ ojaxTa erTiani
faseulobebi da vin daainvalida WiaTuris
##9 skolis moswavle Temur modebaZe?
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
internetSi
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saqarTvelos es sociopati xelisufle-
ba eyoleba, romlis umaRles eSeloneb-
Si Tavad araerTi pederasti da albaT,
ukve lesboselic uziT, saqarTvelos
momavalsa da mis moqalaqeebs aseTi Se-
maZrwunebeli faqtebis naxvis perspeq-
tiva arerTxel eqneba. “demokratiuli
Rirebulebebis” saxeliT naqadagebi
“adamianis uflebebis dacva da Tavisuf-
leba” ki eris garyvnis, gaTaxsirebis,
uzneo sazogadoebis Camoyalibebisa da
misi gadaSenebis msuye niagadi iqneba. ma-
le albaT yvela, visac qarTvelebad da
tradiciul seqsualur orientaciaze
darCena gvsurs, kargi gagebiT “qseno-
fobebi” unda gavxdeT. ukve umciresoba-
Si gamovdivarT da Cveni uflebebi Cven
unda davicvaT. amitom, rogorc ukve ni-
nia kakabaZis mier qsenofobad gamocxa-
debulma“ qarTvel qsenofobTa kavSiris
Tavmjdomarem”, desturqciulma da ara-
politikosma “aramaSasadame qarTvelma”
marTlmadidebelma da sisxliT xorcam-
de Cemis qveynis erTgulma, arc grant-
ze da arc vinmes fulze gayidulma xma-
maRla SemiZlia ganvacxado: 11.. ddiiaaxxaacc,,
ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss xxeelliissuufflleebbaaSSii,, ssaaqqaarrTTvvee-
llooSSii ddaabbaaddeebbuullii ((iiqqnneebbaa eess qqaarrTTvveellii,,
TTuu aarraaqqaarrTTvveellii)) ddaa mmiissii eerrTTgguullii SSvvii-
lleebbii uunnddaa mmoovviiddnneenn ddaa aarraa uuccxxoo qqvveeyy-
nniiss aaggeenntteebbii ddaa ggvvaarrggaaddaakkeeTTeebbuullii mmaann-
qquurrTTeebbii,, rroommlleebbssaacc ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss iiss-
ttoorriiuull wwaarrssuullss aarraadd aaggddeebbeenn ddaa
aannaaddgguurreebbeenn.. 22.. ddiiaaxxaacc,, ddeekkllaarriirreebbuullii
““sseeqqssuuaalluurrii uummcciirreessoobbeebbiiss mmxxaarrddaaWWeerraa
ddaa hhoommoosseeqqssuuaalliizzmmiissaa ddaa lleessbboosseelloo-
bbiiss pprrooppaaggaannddaa”” ggaarryyvvnniilleebbaaaa ddaa aarraa
““aaddaammiiaanniiss uuffeelleebbeebbiiss ddaaccvvaa””,, rroommeelliicc
mmxxoolloodd ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss ggaaddaaSSeenneebbaa- ggaaddaagg-
vvaarreebbiissTTvviiss xxoorrcciieellddeebbaa.. 33.. ddiiaaxxaacc,,
ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii mmaarrTTllmmaaddiiddeebblluurr eekkllee-
ssiiaass,, rrooggoorrcc qqvveeyyaannaaSSii yyvveellaazzee uuZZvvee-
lleessssaa ddaa ttrraaddiicciiuullss,, kkoonnssttiittuucciiiiTT
ddaaffiiqqssiirreebbuullss- uuppiirraatteessii rroollii uunnddaa
hhqqoonnddeess.. 44.. ddiiaaxxaacc,, ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii ssaa-
xxeellmmwwiiffoo eennaadd qqaarrTTuullii eennaa uunnddaa iiyyooss
aaRRiiaarreebbuullii ddaa aarraa iinngglliissuurrii.. 55.. ddiiaa-
xxaacc,, vviinncc aarriiss qqaarrTTvveellii,, mmaaSSaassaaddaammee iiss
aarriiss qqaarrTTvveellii ddaa mmaarrTTllmmaaddiiddeebbeellii.. 66..
ddiiaaxxaacc,, ssaaaakkaaSSvviillii ssoommeexxiiaa,, ssoommxxeebbiissTT-
vviissaacc uuvvaarrggiissii ddaa rruusseeTTTTaann aaggvviissttooss
oommiicc sswwoorreedd mmaann ddaaiiwwyyoo.. 77.. ddiiaaxxaacc,, eess
xxeelliissuufflleebbaa ssoocciiooppaattTTaa ssaakkrreebbuullooaa
ddaa ddeemmookkrraattiiuullii aarrCCeevveenneebbiiTT (( rraaRRaacc
nnaawwiilliiTT)) kkii aarr uunnddaa mmooxxvvddeess ppaarrttllaa-
mmeennttSSii,, aarraammeedd ssaammaaggaalliiTToodd uunnddaa ggaassaa-
mmaarrTTllddeess ddaawwyyeebbuullii uummaaRRlleessii ppiirrvveellii
ppiirreebbiiddaann,, qqvveeddaa eeSSeelloonneebbSSii aarrsseebbuullii
SSeemmssrruulleebblleebbiiTT.. 88.. ddiiaaxxaacc,, vviinncc ggllddaa-
nniiss cciixxeeSSii aaxxaallaaiiaass mmiieerr mmaammaakkaacceebbiiss ggaa-
uuppaattiiuurreebbiiss kkaaddrreebbiiss nnaaxxvviiss SSeemmddeegg
iisseevv nnaacciioonnaalluurrii mmooZZrraaoobbiiss mmoommxxrree iiqq-
nneebbaa,, yyvveellaass ffssiiqqiiaattrriiuullii ggaammookkvvlleevvaa
uunnddaa CCaauuttaarrddeess ddaa rrooggoorrcc ““kkeeTTrroovvaa-
nnii””,, ggaaiirriiyyooss qqaarrTTuullii ssaazzooggaaddooeebbiiddaann!!
ddaaiimmaaxxssoovvrrooss yyvveellaamm,, rroomm ddaaiixxaacc,, ssaa-
qqaarrTTvveelloo aarraassddrrooss ggaaxxddeebbaa ppeeddeerraassttee-
bbiissaa ddaa lleessbboosseelleebbiiss qqvveeyyaannaa!!
rreessppuubblliikkiiss mmTTaavvaarrii
qqsseennooffoobbii baia amaSukeli
18 gv.
20 saerTo gazeTi #41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
SSiiddaa ssaaxxeelliissuufflleebboo bbaallaannssii sseerriioozzuullaadd
ddaaiirrRRvvaa!!!!!! ZZaalliiaann ggaaZZlliieerrddaa mmeerraabbiiSSvviillii
mmeeffiiss kkaarrzzee.. ssaaeeWWvvoodd,, ssaaSSiiSS ddaa ddaauubbaallaann-
sseebbeell ZZaallaadd iiqqccaa iiggii –– ZZaalliiaann ssaaSSiiSS ZZaa-
llaadd!! kkoobbaa kkaappaannaaZZee
iimmeeddiiaa iimm aaddggiillaass,, ssaaddaacc ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss ssoo-
mmeexxmmaa pprreezziiddeennttmmaa mmiiSSaa ssaaaakkoovvmmaa,, 22000088
wweellss,, rrooggoorrcc llaaCCaarrmmaa,, qqaarrTTvveellii eerriiss mmoo-
ZZuulleemm ddaa ggaammyyiiddvveellmmaa,, iiffooffxxaa aassffaallttzzee,,ddaa
mmTTeellss mmssoofflliiooss ddaaaannaaxxaa,, aaii iimm aaddggiillaass ggaaiiTTxxrreebbaa
ssoommeexxii ssaaaakkoovviiss ssaassaaffllaaoo,, ddaa mmaasszzee yyoovveellii ggaammvvllee-
llii qqaarrTTvveellii ddaaaaffuurrTTxxeebbss yyoovveellddRRiiuurraadd!!
kkiiddeevv eerrTTxxeell mmiinnddaa mmiivvmmaarrTToo qqaarrTTuull ssaa-
zzooggaaddooeebbaass!!!!!!
CCvveenn rraa uufflleebbaass vvaaZZlleevvTT nnaacc aannaalleebbss
rroomm aamm kkrriimmiinnaall ppeeddooffiilleebbmmaa mmoonnaawwiilleeoobbaa
mmiiiiRRoonn aarrCCeevvnneebbSSii??????
eess nniiSSnnaavvss rroomm CCvveenn vveegguueebbiiTT mmaaTT qqmmeeddeebbeebbss iissii-
nnii aarrCCeevvnneebbiiddaann mmooxxssnniillii uunnddaa iiyyvvnneenn!!!!!! aarr ddaaggaavviiwwyy-
ddeeTT mmaaTTii lloozzuunnggii ““CCvveenn eerrTTii gguunnddii vvaarrTT”” eessee iiggii
yyvveellaamm uunnddaa ggaaiizziiaarrooss eerrTTmmaanneeTTiiss ssaaqqcciieellii..
nnaacc..mmooZZrraaoobbaa uunnddaa mmooiixxssnnaass aarrCCeevvnneebbiiddaann rrooggoorrcc
kkrriimmiinnaalluurrii ddaajjgguuffeebbaa..
ddRReess ddaavvrrwwmmuunnddii rroomm nnaaccmmooZZrraaoobbaa nnaammddvvii-
llaadd ggaarrddaaiiccvvaallaa,, mmaaggrraamm CCvveennmmaa mmaaRRaallmmaa,,
rroommeelliicc aammddeennii xxaanniiaa aaRRmmaaSSeenneebblloobbaass iibbrraa-
lleebbss,, aannddeerrZZii mmaaiinncc ddaattoovvooss.. ddaavviiTTmmaa ggeellaaTTSSii ddaamm-
kkrrZZaalleeTT ddaa gguullzzee ffeexxii ddaammaaddggiiTToo.. ddaa aammiissTTvviiss llaa-
zziikkaa ddaa ccooccxxiiss ddaaddggmmaa iiqqnneebbaa zzeeddggaammooWWrriillii..
`̀iiss,, rroomm aarrsseebbuull vviiTTaarreebbaass mmeerraabbiiSSvviillii
rraammddeenniimmee ddRReeSSii ggaammooaasswwoorreebbss,, ssiissuulleellee,,
cciinniizzmmii ddaa ttyyuuiilliiaa.. mmeerraabbiiSSvviilliissaa ddaa
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xalxis azriT
gvesaubreba poeti
jansuR Carkviani:
`eseni movidnen
xelSi vardebiT
da wavlen
ukanalSi cocxebiT~
is, rac am dReebSi televiziiT
vnaxe, warmoudgenlad mZime iyo Cem-
Tvis _ TiTqos gulSi laxvari Cam-
ces... asprocentian sadistebTan
gvaqvs saqme. Cven, sazogadoebam, Tu-
ki rames warmovadgenT, unda mivaR-
wioT imas, rom dausjeli ar darC-
nen 18 seqtembris `gmirebi~ _ pasu-
xi unda agon mbrZaneblebma, am sis-
temis Semqmnelebma da ara mxolod
cixis naZirala TanamSromlebma.
mTel msoflioSi mogveWra Tavi,
mTel msoflioSi pirvelebi varT,
oRond sadistTa saZmoSi. am ambis
mifuCeCeba warmoudgenelia da amas
aravin Seurigdeba _ ki, batono, ga-
dadga kalmaxeliZe, gadadga axalaia.
kargia, rom gadadgnen, magram es yve-
laferi blefia, Cemo Zvirfaso me-
gobrebo! gadadgoma zRvaSi wveTia.
diax, esaa satyuara, gadagdebuli
brbos saReWad. mTavari isaa, pasuxs
vin agebs! ki ar unda gadadgnen, ara-
med pasuxi unda agon, upirvelesad,
prezidentma da mere misma daunma
sadistebma! amaT rogor ubrundebaT
ena, rom sxvebs akriti-
keben, yvela jalaTi
ukan Camoitoves _ risi
bolSevikebi, risi komu-
nistebi, Cven dRes
gvmarTaven faSistebi!
adre naTqvams gavimeo-
reb _ wakiTxuli maqvs
hitleris sityvebi: `me
bednierad vracx Tavs,
rom var nacionaluri
partiis wevri~. ki, mag-
ram, am naZirlebma, ro-
ca TavianT partias na-
cionalurs arqmevdnen,
ar icodnen, ra erqva
hitleris faSistur
partias?! xom unda dam-
Tavrdes, bolos da bolos, es saSi-
neleba?!
ara, ki vicodi, rom adrec saSi-
neli ambebi xdeboda cixeebSi, mag-
ram aseTi? ager, ukve 81 wlis
vsruldebi 30 seqtembers da Cems
Taobas amnairi ambebi ar axsovs. Se-
iZleba, calkeuli SemTxveva ki iyo
sadRac, magram normad ar qceula,
ar iyo es qarTul xasiaTSi. erTma
cixeSi namuSevarma kacma miTxra,
rom, Turme, zogierT patimars nem-
sebs urWobdnen da am gziT iRebdnen
misgan aRiarebas. sazizRrobaa, aba
ra, wameba wamebaa, magram fizikuri
tkivili erTia, kacis Rirsebis Se-
laxva da damcireba ki _ meo-
re. es cocxi da paloebi ra-
Rac ubedurebaa?! romeli deg-
radirebuli arakacis tvinSi
gaCnda kacis ase wamebis idea?!
faSistebi vaxsene, magram isini
sakuTar xalxs mainc ar eqce-
odnen amgvarad.
ar vici, eseni risi Rirsni
arian, ra sasjeli unda dauwe-
so adamianis ase damcirebisa
da gamwarebisaTvis. universi-
tetTan miTxra erTma axalgaz-
rdam, _ batono jansuR, upri-
ani ar iqneba. es jalaTebi sa-
kanSi SevyaroT, wavkuzoT da
axla magaT SevtenoT cocxe-
bio. me vupasuxe, _ ar geTanx-
mebiT, radgan nacebis umravlesobas
kidec esiamovneba, Tu nac...Si raimes
gaurWob-meTqi. diax, esiamovnebaT,
radgan avadmyofuri cnobierebis
arian.
`dRes Cveni qveyana
erTi didi cixea,
mTeli sazogadoeba
Rirsebaayrilia~...
is, rac 18 seqtembers televizi-
iT vixileT, sxvadasxva formiT
xorcieldeba mTel sazogadoebaze;
ase rom, mTeli sazogadoeba Rirse-
baayrilia. erTi Zaladoba rom Ser-
CaT, meore Caidines, meores mesame
mohyva da ase mivediT dRemde. xal-
xi rom patimris rolSi ar yofili-
yo, SerCenoda amaT girgvlianis,
robaqiZis, vazagaSvilis, mitingebze
Caxocili adamianebis sisxls? apa-
tiebda afrasiZeeebis ojaxis amowy-
vetas?! ara, aTaskaciani razmiTa da
samxedro vertmfrenebiT rom adi-
xar svaneTSi erTi ojaxis amosawy-
vetad da mere ambob, _ yaCaRebs ga-
vuswordiTo, _ vis atyueb, Se de-
dalo?! mesmis, rom damnaSave unda
daisajos, magram mTeli misi ojaxi
ratom unda amowydes, es ver gami-
gia. es ukve sasjelis cnebas scde-
ba, usazRvro siZulvilis gamovli-
nebasTan gvaqvs saqme. mitomac vam-
bob, rom Cvens xelisuflebas sZuls
sakuTari xalxi _ sZuls da didi
siamovnebiT gvamwyvdevs saknebSi. ki-
dev vimeoreb, dRes mTeli saqarTve-
lo patimaria; zogi pirdapiri gage-
biT zis cixeSi, zogi ki xmis amo-
Rebas ver bedavs, sworad azrovne-
bis eSinia aRarc aqvs amis unari,
usamarTlobas ver ebrZvis _ esec
cixeSi yofnaa.
`meimedeba
`qarTuli ocneba~...~
adre optimisti kaci viyavi, me-
re imdeni ubedureba vnaxe, rom pe-
simisti gavxdi, axla ki, yvelafris
miuxedavad, isev optimisti var. mi-
xaria, rom Cveni axalgazrdoba,
qveynis momavali, romelmac icis
WeSmariti demokratiis, kacurkaco-
bis fasi, swor arCevans akeTebs da
uyoymanod dgas samarTlianobis mxa-
reze. me mTeli Cemi cxovreba saqar-
Tvelos TavisuflebisaTvis vibrZo-
di da dRemde vibrZvi. ra Tqma un-
da, axlac Cveni axalgazrdebis
gverdiT var _ roca universitetis
win gamarTul mravalaTasian aqcia-
ze mivedi, bevrma studentma micno
da gaexardaT, maTTan rom viyavi. am
axalgazrdebs ver gatexen, lomebis
jiSis arian da imitom. gaxsovT er-
Ti Cemi leqsi, romelic 40 wlis
win davwere: `Zlivs, Zlivs amodis
mTvare samoTxis, tyvia mizanSi mo-
saxvedria. Tavisufleba ise ar mo-
dis, Tavisufleba lomTa xvedria~.
mere Cemma biWma, mamuka Carkvianma am
leqsze simRera dawera da mTelma
saqarTvelom himniviT aitaca, magram
dRes kurdRlebi mRerian amas. min-
da, maT vuTxra, rom me es lomebze
davwere da ara kurdRlebze _ iseT
lomebze, axla rom darazmulan
qveynis gadasarCenad. vici, 1 oqtom-
beri axlovdeba da yvelaferi ga-
moswordeba, `qarTuli ocnebis~ di-
di gulSematkivari da mxardamWeri
var. mjera, rom es brwyinvale mo-
ridebuli pirovneba, biZina ivaniSvi-
li, romelic wlebis ganmavlobaSi
Cumad, uangarod Tesavda sikeTes,
swori gziT waiyvans saqarTvelos.
esaa kaci, romelic ar amxelda, rom
sameba misi aSenebulia, axla ki Tavs
valdebulad Tvlis, politikaSi mo-
vides _ ara imitom, rom preziden-
ti gaxdes, aramed imitom, rom qve-
yana gadaarCinos, xalxi ixsnas.
am xelisuflebisgan ukve arafe-
ri mikvirs _ yvelafers kadru-
lobs, radgan sircxvilis grZnoba
ar gaaCnia. prezidenti amayobs, rom
gzebi gaiyvana, xidebi aago, eklesi-
ebi aaSena, jari aayvava, Seqmna axa-
li policia. ki, batono, es kargia
da mec meamayeba, magram ra SuaSia aq
prezidenti? es yvelaferi xom biZi-
na ivaniSvilma gaakeTa?
ocneba marto lirikuli fenome-
ni ki ar aris, masSi moiazreba Seni
momavalic, xvalindeli dRe, magram
roca sakuTar warsuls uaryof,
arc awmyo geqneba da arc momavali
geRirseba.
Cvenma xelisuflebam ar icis
warsulis fasi, marto awmyo unda
da meTavisea; arc ukan daxeva SeuZ-
lia, arc daTmobis unari aqvs. min-
da, prezidents vuTxra: wadi, Se kai
kaco, ar ginda, rom am qveyanaze
dagedgomebodes?
nino sixaruliZe
`unda daingres es faSisturi reJimi~
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21saerTo gazeTi#41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
qvveeyyannaSSi SSeeqmnnil ppoliti-
kurr da winnasaarrCeevvnno garreemos
SSeeaxeeb `̀saeerrTo gazeeTs~ koa-
licia `̀qarrTuli ocnneebis~ Tavv-
mjdomarree, saCxeerris maJJorrita-
rrobis kanndidati manana ko-baxiZe eesaubrra:
_ gldanis #8 sapyrobi-
leSi patimrebis wamebis Sesa-
xeb gavrcelebulma video-mmasa-
lam, SeiZleba iTqvas, mTeli
saqarTvelo SeZra. rogoria
Tqveni damokidebuleba, ras
fiqrobT gldanis cixeSi gan-
viTarebul procesebTan dakav-
SirebiT?
_ rodesac qveyanaSi aseTi
Semzaravi faqtebi xdeba da mas
sistemuri xasiaTi aqvs da
wlebis ganmavlobaSi grZelde-
ba, niSnavs, imas, rom saqme av-
toritarul xelisuflebasTan
gvaqvs, sadac yvelaferi `nac-
moZraobis~ elitas emsaxureba.
mmarTveli gundi, faqtia, rom
swored araadamianuri, amazr-
zeni meTodebiT inarCunebda Za-
lauflebas, rac logikur da-
sasrulade unda mivides, rad-
gan Zaladobaze damyarebuli
xelisufleba didxans ver gas-
tans, CamoiSleba da sisasti-
keSi braldebuli adamianebi
aucileblad pasuxs ageben. me,
rogorc yofili uflebadacve-
li, TanavugrZnob yvela pati-
mars, maT ojaxebs, visac es
ubedureba daatydaT, Tumca
`qarTuli ocneba~ yvela Ro-
nes ixmars, rom yvela pirma
Cadenili danaSaulisaTvis pa-
suxi unda agos kanonis mTeli
simkacriT. samwuxarod, ukve
gavrcelda informacia, rom
prokuraturam patimrebis wa-
mebaSi monawile ramdenime maT-
gans brali Seumsubuqa, anu
wamebis muxlis gadakvalifi-
cireba araadamianur mopyroba-
ze xdeba. cxadia, rom xeli-
sufleba sakuTar Tavs ganaCens
TviTon ar gamoutans da saku-
Tar Tavs TviTon xom ar das-
jis.
mixeil saakaSvilma sasje-
laRsrulebis ministrad gi-
orgi tuRuSi rom mogvivlina,
es arafers ar niSnavs. realu-
rad sistemaSi arsebuli xar-
vezebi manamde ar gamosworde-
ba, sanam mixeil saakaSvilis
avtoritaruli reJimi ar Se-
icvleba. amitom aucilebelia
arsebuli reJimis gauqmeba. es
unda moxdes mSvidobani, arCev-
nebis gziT da `qarTuli ocne-
ba~ yvelafers gaakeTebs, rom
ar avyveT provokacias, ar
moxdes maTi mxridan procese-
bis eskalacia, radgan pirvel
oqtombramde misvla mSvidobi-
ani gziT gvsurs.
sazogadoebam, roca rea-
lurad, kadrebis saxiT naxa
patimrebis mdgomareoba, Tavi-
si pozicia ukve Riad gamoxa-
tes. naTqvamia: `asjer gago-
nils erTxel nanaxi sjobs~,
amitomac iyo xalxis reaqcia
aseTi adekvaturi da myisie-
ri. calsaxaa, rom sasjelaR-
srulebis sistema mTlianad
CamoSlilia da sasjelaRs-
rulebis departamentis ma-
RalCinosnebi Cadiodnen araa-
damianur qmedebas _ patimre-
bis wamebas. am dros saakaSvi-
li `qarTuli ocnebisken~ iS-
vers xels, rom Cven gvinda
qurduli samyaros dabruneba,
Cven gvinda kriminalisa da
qveynis warsulSi dabruneba,
rac misi, samwuxarod, cudi
piar-kampaniis nawi-
lia. piriqiT, Seu-
rigebel brZolas
vacxadebT da gamo-
vaaSkaravebT yvela-
nair kriminalur
process.
_ sakadro cvli-
lebebi, romelic
sasjelaRsrulebis
saministroSi gan-
xorcielda, realu-
rad gamoasworebs
sistemaSi arsebul
xarvezebs?
_ faSistur reJimSi raime
rom Secvalos, ukeTesobisken
Seicvleba rame? amitom absur-
dia eka zRulaZis gancxadeba,
rodesac giorgi tuRuSs eub-
neba, rom sapatrulo policia
srulad mis gankargulebaSi
iqneba. jer kidev sabWoTa
droSi yvelaze didi arademok-
ratiuli standarti imaSi ga-
moixateboda, rom sasjelaRs-
rulebis sistema Sss daqvemde-
barebaSi iyo. SevardnaZis pe-
riodSi, roca reformebi da-
iwyo, yvelaze did miRwevad is
iTvleboda, rom sasjelaRsru-
lebis uwyeba Sinagan saqmeTa
saministros daqvemdebarebidan
gamovida da iusticiis sami-
nistros mmarTvelobaSi gada-
vida.
mixeil saakaSvilma saqar-
Tvelo kvlav sabWoTa droSi
daabruna, roca cixeebSi pat-
ruli SeuSva. Sss da patru-
lis sasjelaRsrulebis dawe-
sebulebaSi araferi esaqmeba.
am SemTxvevaSi gamoricxulia
saubari samarTlian marTlmsa-
julebaze.
prezidenti, rodesac Tavi-
si piriT aRiarebs, rom sasje-
laRsrulebis sistema mTlia-
nad CamoSlilia, magram, ukac-
ravad, rva wlis ganmavlobaSi
sad mihqondaT grantebi, dafi-
nansebebi, romelic sistemis
gamarTuli muSaobisTvis gamo-
iyo. Cven sacdeli kurdRlebi
varT Tu laboratoriaa saqar-
Tvelo, sadac saakaSvilma
cdebi unda Cagvitaros? maSin
sistema Tu CamoeSala da
rvawlis ganmavlobaSi ver
aawyo, keTili inebos da wabr-
Zandes xelisuflebidan. mixe-
il saakaSvilis politika iyo
nulovani tolerantoba, yve-
lani cixeSi _ danaSaulTan
brZola es ar aris. piriqiT,
danaSaulTa brZola Tanmimdev-
ruli da kanonTan Sesabamiso-
baSi unda iyos.
_ gldanis sapyrobileSi
gadaRebuli video-mmasalis
gasvlis Semdeg studentebi
permanentul aqciebs marTaven
Sss yofili ministris baCo
axalaias sisxlis samarTlis
pasuxismgeblobis moTxovniT.
rogor fiqrobT, saprotesto
aqciebi gamoiRebs Sedegs da
realurad dadgeba axalaias
pasuximgeblobis sakiTxi?
_ studentebs, ra Tqma un-
da, ufleba aqvT iseve, ro-
gorc mTel sazogadoebas, ga-
moxatos protesti da yvela
maTgans `qarTuli ocneba~ so-
lidarobas ucxadebs. Tumca
yvela aqciis monawiles movu-
wodebT, emociebi rogorRac
moTokon, ar ayvnen provokaci-
ebs, daZabulobas, radgan ar-
Cevnebamde mSvidobianad unda
mivideT. studentebis moTxov-
niT absoluturad logikuria,
radgan baCo axalaias gadadgo-
ma arafers ar niSnavs, is aqam-
dec unda daekiTxaT, magram es
ase ar moxda, radgan axalaias
qmedebebi pirdapir saakaSvil-
Tanaa dakavSirebuli, amis ga-
momzeureba xelisuflebas nam-
dvilad ar awyobs. amitom
aucilebelia saakaSvilisa da
misi garemocvis mSvidobianad,
arCevnebis gziT Secvla, rasac
`qarTuli ocneba~ pirvel oq-
tombers gaakeTebs.
_ Tqven saCxeris maJori-
tari deputatobis kandidati
brZandebiT, ra ganwyobaa saCxe-
reSi winasaarCevnod da ras
fiqroben `qarTuli ocnebis~
Sesaxeb?
_ adgilobrivi mosaxleo-
bis damokidebuleba `qarTuli
ocnebis~ misamarTiT paradoq-
sia da sajaro moxeleebi Ri-
ad, mxars uWeren biZina ivaniS-
vilsa da `qarTul ocnebas~.
magaliTad, saCxeris samaSvelo
samsaxuris 30 TanamSromelma
mxardaWera `qarTul ocnebas~
gamoucxada. winasaarCevnod sa-
Cxere aqtiuria, midis brZola
gamarjvebisTvis da imisTvis,
rom arCevnebamde mSvidobianad
mivideT.
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CCeevvnnoo kkoommiissiiaa ppiirrvveell ooqqttoommbbeerrss ssaaaarr-
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rreegguullaacciiiiss SSeessaaxxeebb ddaaddggeenniilleebbaass ggaann-
xxiillaavvddaa.. ssaakkiiTTxxiiss ggaannxxiillvvaaSSii mmoonnaawwii-
lleeoobbiiss mmiissaaRReebbaadd cceesskkooss TTaannaammSSrroomm-
lleebbmmaa aarr ddaauuSSvveess eeqqssppeerrttii,, cceennttrraa-
lluurrii kkoommiissiiiiss ssaakkoonnssuullttaacciioo ssaabb-
WWooss wweevvrrii kaxa kaxiSvili..
__ bbaattoonnoo kkaaxxaa,, cceesskkooss wwaarrmmoommaadd-
ggeennlleebbmmaa aarrCCeevvnneebbiiss ddRReess vviiddeeoo-aauuddiioo
kkaammeerriiss ddaaSSvveebbiiss ssaakkiiTTxxiiss ggaannxxiillvvaazzee
aarr ddaaggiiSSvveess.. rraattoomm,, rraa aarriiss mmiizzeezzii??
_ sakiTxis ganxilva ceskoSi eqv-
si saaTisTvis iyo dagegmili da cen-
tralur saarCevno komisiaSi sxdomis
dawyebamde TxuTmeti wuTiT adre mi-
vedi. ceskos sakonsultacio jgufis
wevri var da aqamde centralur saar-
Cevno komisiaSi Sesvlis problema ar-
asodes mqonia. axla ki ceskos Tanam-
Sromlebma miTxres,
rom akreditaciis ga-
reSe ar damiSvebdnen.
vuTxari, akreditaciis
gavlis miuxedavad, ma-
Ti mxridan akredita-
cia ar mimiRia da vu-
Txari, moegvarebinaT
es sakiTxi. ceskos Ta-
namSromeli, romelic
problemis mogvarebas
dampirda, 40 wuTis
ganmavlobaSi velode-
bodi. mosvlis Semdeg
miTxra, rom ukve Svi-
dis naxevaria sxdoma
dawyebulia da akredi-
taciis baraTis miRebas
veRar movaxerxebdi. maSin vuTxari,
xaratiSvilisTvis droebiTi saSvis
daSveba eTxova, razec uari miviRe.
sxvaTa Soris, cesko, romelic
viTom demokratiul principebs daner-
gviTaa dakavebuli. 2012 wlis sapar-
lamento arCevnebisTvis ceskoSi saS-
vebis daSvebis ufleba ceskos yvela
TanamSromels hqonda. axla, faqtob-
rivad, aikrZala da amis saSualeba
mxolod xaratiSvils, mis moadgile-
sa da mdivans aqvs.
albaT, sxdomaze imis gamo ar da-
miSves, rom Cemi mxridan dadgenile-
basTan dakavSirebiT apelireba ar un-
dodaT, radgan is mTlianad ewinaaRm-
degeba kanons, radgan kanoni gvaZlevs
uflebas saarCevno ubnebze mediis
warmomadgenlebis daSvebisas. garda
amisa, arasamTavrobo seqtoris warmo-
madgenlebma parlamentis iuridiul
komitetis Tavmjdomarisgan miviReT
piroba, saarCevno olqebsa da ubnebze
video-audio aparaturis daSvebas
problema ar Seeqmneboda.
__ mmaaSSiinn rraattoomm ddaaddggaa ssaaaarrCCeevvnnoo
uubbnneebbzzee ffoottoo-aauuddii-vviiddeeoo tteeqqnniikkiiTT
ggaaddaaRReebbiiss aakkrrZZaallvviiss ssaakkiiTTxxii??
_ mas Semdeg, rac xelisuflebam
dainaxa, rom adgilobrivi arasamTav-
robo organizaciebi aRiWurvnen vide-
okamerebiT da yvelafris dafiqsire-
bas SeZleben, mmarTveli Zala ki ar-
Cevnebis gayalbebas veRar SeZlev-
da. amitom wavidnen am SezRudvaze
da undodaT mediis warmomadgen-
lebis muSaobis SezRudva. saarCev-
no komisias aRniSnuli dadgenile-
bis miReba mxolod im SemTxvevaSi
SeeZlo, Tu kanoniT ar gveqneboda
gansazRvruli foto-audi-video
gadaRebebi saarCevno ubnebSi. dRes
ki sarCevno kodeqsSi Savi TeTrze
weria, mediis warmomdgenlebis re-
gulaciebi da uflebeba-movaleo-
bebi. Amitom, rogor SeiZleba
dadgenileba, romlis miReba ces-
kos undoda, kanonis winaaRmde-
gobrivi iyos.
__ ggaammooddiiss,, rroomm cceesskkoo kkaannoonniiss wwii-
nnaaaaRRmmddeegg mmooqqmmeeddeebbddaa??
_ cesko namdvilad gamodioda ka-
nonis winaaRmdeg, ubralod, amis ,,gap-
ravebas” dadgenilebis safuZvelze
cdilobdnen. amisTvis ceskos wevrebis
2/3 Tanxmoba sWirdeboda, rac ar mox-
da da saboloo jamSi, arasamTavrobo
seqtorisa da mediis warmomadgenle-
bis aqtiurobiT ceskom Tavisi ver
gaitana da saarCevno ubnebze dauSves
gadaReba.
__ mmaaiinnccddaammaaiinncc TTqqvveenn rraattoomm aarr ddaa-
ggiiSSvveess ddaaddggeenniilleebbiiss ggaannxxiillvvaazzee,, rraadd-
ggaann ssxxddoommaass aarraassaammTTaavvrroobboo sseeqqttoorriiss
wwaarrmmoommaaddggeennlleebbiiss iiss nnaawwiilliicc eesswwrree-
bbooddaa,, rroommeellTTaacc iiggiivvee ppoozziicciiaa eekkaavvaaTT,,
rraacc TTqqvveenn??
_ rogorc Cans, ceskos surda, maT
mier inicirebuli dadgenilebas, rac
SeiZleba naklebi oponenti hyoloda.
ganvmeordebi da vityvi, rom centra-
lurma saarCevno komisiam mxolod
2012 wlis arCevnebisTvis gaamkacra
saSvis gacema.
__ kkaaxxaa,, rraammddeenniimmee ddRRiiss wwiinn ggllddaa-
nniiss ssaappyyrroobbiilleeSSii ppaattiimmrreebbiiss wwaammeebbiiss
SSeemmzzaarraavvii kkaaddrreebbii ggaaaavvrrcceellddaa.. rraass
ffiiqqrroobbTT,, mmoommxxddaarriiss SSeessaaxxeebb ddaa rraa
ggaavvlleennaass iiqqoonniieebbss aarrCCeevvnneebbiiss SSeeddeeggeebb-
zzee??
_ kadrebi, romelic vixileT, nam-
dvilad Semzaravi da aRmaSfoTebe-
lia. patimrebze aseTi araadamianuri
mopyroba arc erT qveyanaSi ar aris.
amitom saubari imaze, rom momxdari
aris ara sistemuri, aramed calkeul
pirTa danaSauli miuRebelia. Ss sa-
ministro buzis moZraobis traeqto-
riasac akontrolebs da daujerebe-
lia, sapatimroSi arsebuli mdgoma-
reobis Sesaxeb Sss informacia ar
hqonoda.
xelisufleba axla cdilobs rame-
nairad momxdari gadaagoron. yelafe-
ri damokidebuli iqneba xalxis gan-
wyobasa da poziciaze. vnaxeT, rom sa-
zogadoebis aqtiurobis Sedegad ori
ministri Tanamdebobidan gadadga, Tum-
ca saakaSvili gveubneba, rom TviTon
gaadaayena arada kalmaxeliZem da axa-
laim Tanamdebobidan wasvlis Sesaxeb
ganawyveileba Tavad miiRes.
ggvveerrddii mmooaammzzaaddaa
miranda nabaxtevelma
kaxa kaxiSvili:kaxa kaxiSvili: ceskos arCevnebis gamWvirvaled
Catareba ar surs
manana kobaxiZe: manana kobaxiZe: mixeil saakaSvilma sabWoTa
droSi dagvabruna, roca cixeSi patruli SeuSva
22 saerTo gazeTi #41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
mmmmssssoooofffflllliiiioooo pppprrrreeeessssiiiissss mmmmiiiixxxxeeeeddddvvvviiiiTTTTpostsabWoTa qveynebSi cixe-
ebi asruleben nebismier sxva
funqcias, garda aRmzrdelobi-
Tisa. es yvelasTvis aris cnobi-
li _ vinc ukve ijda da vinc
axla zis. mkvleloba, gaupatiu-
reba, wameba, fsiqologiuri ze-
moqmedeba _ es penitenciuri
sistemis safuZvelia ukrainaSi,
ruseTSi, belorusSi, yazaxeT-
Si... aqamde gvegona, rom saqarT-
veloSi aseTi ram ukve arar
xdeboda, radgan demokratiuli
qveynis mSeneblobis pretenziiT
mosuli xelisufleba sxvanai-
rad warmoaCenda qveyanaSi mimdi-
nare procesebs. patimrebi cixe-
ebs SesaZloa, `sufTa sindi-
siT~, toveben, magram isini sul
sxva adamianebi arian. saqarTve-
loSi patimarTa cemisa da gau-
patiurebis gamo agorebuli
skandali scdeba `informaciis
gaJonvisa~ da `mundiris Selax-
vis~ CarCoebs. cixis skandali _
es aris ara politikuri, aramed
civilizebuli dartyma. Tbili-
si bolo 5 wlis ganmavlobaSi
agresiulad qmnida warmatebuli
demokratiuli qveynis imijs _
policiis minis gamWvirvale Se-
nobebiT, adgilobriv sagzao in-
speqciaSi qrTamis aRmofxvriT,
saCvenebeli infrastruqturuli
obieqtebiT... am skandalma aCve-
na, rom qarTvelebi azielebad
darCnen ara marto geografiu-
lad, aramed mentaluradac. ro-
gorc ki dasavleTisTvis gan-
kuTvnili `reportaJis farda~
daeSveba, pirovnebaze Zaladoba
saqarTveloSi iseTive Cveuleb-
rivi movlenaa, rogoric sabWo-
Ta kavSiris yofil arademokra-
tiul qveynebSi.
sadavo ar aris, rom masmedi-
aSi informaciis gaJonva saar-
Cevno kampaniis daskvniT etaps
ukavSirdeba. saparlamento ar-
Cevnebamde darCenili ramdenime
dRis ganmavlobaSi, opoziciaca
da moqmedi xelisuflebac uki-
duresad SemarTulia sabrZol-
velad. evropuli qveynebisgan
gansxvavebiT, saqarTveloSi xe-
lisuflebis Secvla, savarau-
dod, winamorbedi `banditebis~
cixeSi Casmas gulisxmobs. sa-
akaSvils ki surs, mibaZos ru-
seTs, gadmoiRos `Zalauflebis
memkvidreobiTobis~ rusuli ma-
galiTi. saamisod ki saparlamen-
to arCevnebSi gamarjvebaa auci-
lebeli. gamJRavnebuli cixis
kompromati opoziciam saakaSvi-
lis winaaRmdeg gamoiyena, rac
savsebiT gonivrulia.
miliarder ivaniSvilis opo-
ziciurma blokma _ `qarTulma
ocnebam~ moqmed prezidents bra-
lad dasdo qveyanaSi respresiu-
li sistemis organizeba da sa-
qarTvelos sxvadasxva qalaqSi
masobrivi piketebi moawyo. ori-
ginaluri aRmoCnda xelisufle-
bis pozicia _ momxdar provoka-
ciaSi `qarTuli ocnebis~ warmo-
madgenlebi daadanaSaules: Sss-s
informaciiT, `qarTuli blokis~
(teqstSi asea _ red.) aqtivis-
tebma gldanis cixis badragebs
fuli gadauxades, rom patimrebi
kamerebis win ecemaT, xolo es
kompromatebi Semdgom TviTon am
patimrebis winaaRmdeg gamoeyene-
binaT. skandali ufro metad
agorda gldanis cixis yofili
TanamSromlis, amJamad belgiaSi
myofi vladimer bedukaZis sate-
levizio gamosvlis Semdeg. man
daufaravad ganacxada, rom jer
erTi, gldanis cixeSi Cveuleb-
rivi, sistemuri da didi xnis
dawyebulia patimarTa wameba; me-
ore _ patimarTa damcirebisa da
cemis uSualo gankargulebebs
Sinagan saqmeTa saministros ax-
landeli ministri baCo axalaia
iZleva; da mesame _ sasjelaRs-
rulebis aw ukve ganTavisufle-
bulma ministrma xaTuna kalmaxe-
liZem patimarTa wamebis Sesaxeb
yvelaferi icoda.
amgvarad, saqarTvelos xeli-
suflebas Cveuli saqcieli _
momxdari opozicias gadaabra-
los, amjerad ar gamouvida.
romc vivaraudoT, rom patimar-
Ta cema da gaupatiureba viRacam
`SeukveTa~, am SekveTas moqmedi
xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi
asrulebdnen. amasTan, ukve daka-
vebulia cixis aTze meti Tanam-
Sromeli. es imas niSnavs, rom
opozicias (Tuki aseTi SekveTa
arsebobda) didad ar gasWirve-
bia SemsrulebelTa povna.
imoqmedebs Tu ara cixis
skandali arCevnebis Sedegebze?
aseTi ram belgiis an espane-
Tis cixeebSi rom momxdariyo,
es iqneboda moqmedi xelisuf-
lebis sruli fiasko. saamisod
aucilebelia arseboba samoqa-
laqo sazogadoebisa, romelic
saqarTveloSi ar Camoyalibebu-
la. arsebobs opozicia, arsebo-
ben saakaSvilis xelisuflebiT
ukmayofilo adamianebic, magram
samoqalaqo sazogadoeba ar ar-
sebobs. amitomac saqarTveloSi
xelisuflebis Secvla SesaZle-
belia sisxliani gziT (rogorc
moxda libia/siria/egvipte/iemen-
Si), an sulac ar Seicvleba is.
analitikosTa erTi nawilis az-
riT, ar aris gamoricxuli meo-
re varianti, radgan saakaSvili
Zalian cdilobs, misi xelisuf-
lebis Secdomebi sxvas gadaab-
ralos. Tuki `erTiani naciona-
luri moZraoba~ saparlamento
arCevnebis Semdeg Tavis wamyvan
poziciebs SeinarCunebs, es mox-
deba ara imitom, rom saakaSvi-
lis avtoritetia uryevi, ara-
med imitom, rom saqarTvelo
aziaa.
saqarTvelo Tavzardacemulia skandaliT,
romelic Tbilisis cixeebSi wamebis amsaxvelma
videom gamoiwvia. am skandalma sakmaod mtkivne-
uli dartyma miayena saakaSvilis xelisuflebas.
sami wlis win saqarTvelos prezidentma mi-
xeil saakaSvilma ganacxada, rom `sabolood da-
amarcxa kanonieri qurdebi~, romlebic mTel
qveyanas akontrolebdnen. qurduli samyaros
likvidacia iyo erT-erTi dapireba, romlis Se-
saxebac saakaSvilma `vardebis revoluciis~ Sem-
deg Tavisi saprezidento karieris dasawyisSi
ganacxada.
`mixeil saakaSvilis gancxadebebi ukanonobis
mimarT `nulovani tolerantobis~ Sesaxeb ufro
meti iyo, vidre saxelmwifos brZola danaSau-
lebrivi samyaros winaaRmdeg. maSin `revoluci-
onerebi~ am oms saxelmwifoSi ZalauflebisTvis
brZolad ganixilavdnen~, _ aRniSnavs gamocemis
mimomxilveli.
da ai, axla saqarTvelos cixeebSi arsebuli
mdgomareoba, kerZod, Tbilisis merve sapyrobi-
leSi patimarTa cemis videoCanaweri,
`saxelmwifoSi ZalauflebisTvis ga-
marTul omSi~ kvlav pirvel adgil-
zea.
1-l oqtombers daniSnulia sapar-
lamento arCevnebi, romelzec mixeil
saakaSvilis `erTian nacionalur moZ-
raobas~, 2003 wlis `vardebis revo-
luciis~ Semdeg pirvelad, upiris-
pirdeba seriozuli mowinaaRmdege _
multimiliarder biZina ivaniSvilis
`qarTuli ocneba~.
saqarTvelos uSiSroebis sabWos
mdivanma giga bokeriam, romelic agre-
siuli gamoTqmebiT gamoirCeva, ga-
nacxada: saqarTvelos mTavroba Secda,
roca sasjelarsrulebis sistemaSi
arsebuli problemebis signalebze
droulad ar movaxdineT reagireba.
`sistemuri problemebis signalad~
igi miiCnevs ombudsmen giorgi tuRuSis wliur
angariSs, romelic qveynis cixeebSi arsebul
mdgomareobasa da Tbilisis me-8 sapyrobileSi
cemis xuT faqts exeba.
evrosabWos komiteti, romelic wamebis gamo-
yenebis SemTxvevebs iZiebs, aqveynebs monacemebs _
saqarTvelo Sedis im qveynebis ricxvSi, romleb-
Sic patimarTa raodenoba metismetad maRalia.
`saakaSvilis prezidentobis dasawyisidan,
saqarTvelos cixeebSi patimarTa raodenoba sam-
jer gaizarda, sapyrobileebi gadavsebulia, xo-
lo pirobebi _ saSineli. saakaSvilis nulovani
tolerantobis gamocxadebis Semdeg, cixeebSi
umniSvnelo danaSaulisTvis xangrZlivi vadiT
xvdebian~, _ aRniSnavs statiis avtori.
2006 wels saqarTvelos cixeebSi sastikad
CaaxSes bunti, romlis drosac oci adamiani da-
iRupa. oficialuri informaciiT, es buntebi
iyo imis mcdeloba, rom `kanonier qurdebs~ qar-
Tuli cixeebis gakontroleba daebrunebinaT.
Frankfurter Allgemeine
winasaarCevno brZola saqarTvelos moqmed prezident mixeil
saakaSvilsa da mis mTavar oponent biZina ivaniSvils Soris uki-
duresad daZabulia. videoCanawerebi, romlebmac ukiduresad aRaS-
foTa mosaxleoba, opoziciurma telearxebma arCevnebamde ori kvi-
riT adre uCvenes.
pirvel videoSi cixis TanamSromlebi patimrebs cemen. garda
amisa, `maestrom~ aCvena meore videos fotoebi, romlebzec sapyro-
bilis muSakebi patimrebs sapolicio rezinis joxiT aupatiureben.
saparlamento arCevnebis win agorebulma am skandalma SesaZloa,
seriozulad daazaralos mixeil saakaSvilis reputacia, romelsac
reformatoris imijis damkvidreba surda. rogorc cnobilia, 2003
wlis `vardebis
revoluciis~ li-
derma rkinis xe-
liT gaatara sa-
qarTvelos samar-
Taldamcavi siste-
mis, iusticiis or-
ganoebisa da admi-
nistraciis refor-
mebi. `misi brZane-
bulebiT, aTasobiT
mosamarTle da sa-
xelmwifo moxele samsaxuridan gaaTavisufles. saakaSvili aseTi
meTodebiT cdilobda korufciisa da TavaSvebulobis damarcxebas
samarTaldamcav organoebSi~.
`aqamde miiCneoda, rom saakaSvilma moaxerxa korufciis damar-
cxeba. saqarTvelom dabali korufciis qveynebis siaSi 64 punqtiT
gadainacvla da italiis wina pozicia daikava~.
prezidenti saakaSvili, misi TqmiT, dazafrulia. dakavebuli
arian cixis TanamSromlebi, sasjelaRsrulebis ministri gadadga.
moaxloebul arCevnebze saqarTvelos mTavari mowinaaRmdegea mi-
liarderi ivaniSvili. zogierTi analitikuri saagento biZina iva-
niSvils gamarjvebas uwinaswarmetyvelebs.
Der Spiegel
gaupatiureba qarTuladpatimarTa cema da gaupatiureba viRacas
romc `SeekveTa~, am SekveTas moqmedi
xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi asrulebdnen
dartyma adamianur Rirsebas
diskusia saqarTvelos cixeebSi wamebis Sesaxeb
saakaSvils imijs ulaxavs
23saerTo gazeTi#41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
mmmmssssoooofffflllliiiioooo pppprrrreeeessssiiiissss mmmmiiiixxxxeeeeddddvvvviiiiTTTT`daaxloebiT ori wlis win,
2010 wlis ivnisSi Êîììåðñ-àíò-is specialurma korespon-
dentma olga alionovam Tavisi
gamocemisTvis moamzada didi
reportaJi saqarTvelos peni-
tenciuri reformis Sesaxeb sa-
xelwodebiT _ `cixeebis momsa-
xurebis biuro~.
saqarTvelos prezidenti,
romelsac 2008 wlis 8 agvis-
tos ambebis Semdeg gons mosvla
ukve moeswro, galanturad epy-
roboda ruseTis demokratiul
presas, xandaxan paemanzec ki
epatiJeboda, umaspinZldeboda,
momixiblavad uRimoda, uCveneb-
da sakuTar samflobeloebs,
yurSi intimurad eCurCuleboda
Tavisi warmoudgeneli warmate-
bebis Sesaxeb... unda iTqvas, rom
presac Sesabamisad eqceoda _
siamovnebisgan dneboda, aRtace-
bas ver malavda, komplimentebs
ar iSurebda. `CvenTan, ruseT-
Sic rom iyos ase, cxovreba ki
ara, simRera iqneboda!~
ra boroti ironiaa. gldanis
cixeSi patimarTa wamebis vide-
oCanawerebma sruliad saqarTve-
lo SeZra _ da axla ruseTel
JurnalistTa oxvra da aRtace-
bebi dacinvad moCans. saqarTve-
loSi momxdari am bolo skanda-
lis Semdeg alionovas igive we-
rili tragikomikuria. magali-
Tad, avtori wers: `saqarTve-
los xelisuflebis mtkicebiT,
adamiani Tavisuflebas ki kar-
gavs, magram igi evropuli stan-
dartebis cxovrebis gamocdile-
bas iZens~. Cndeba savsebiT ka-
nonzomieri SekiTxvebi: vin uTx-
ra saqarTvelos xelisufalT,
rom evropul standartebSi Se-
dis seqsualuri Zaladoba
cocxis meSveobiT? vin moatyua
isini?
sxva citata: `cixeSi pati-
marTa yofnis mxolod pirobebi
rodi Seicvala. adre, roca ada-
mianis uflebebze laparakobd-
nen, gulisxmobdnen patimarTa
cemis akrZalvas. axla nebismi-
erma patimarma icis, rom ufle-
ba aqvs hqondes sufTa sakani,
xarisxiani sakvebi, advokatTan
urTierTobis SesaZlebloba~.
Cven iqneb erTmaneTisa ar
gvesmis? videoSi patimrebs rom
scemen, sinamdvileSi advokatebs
xvdebian? asea demokratiul ev-
ropaSic?
ironia axla uadgiloa. sa-
Sineleba moxda. saqarT-
velos sazogadoeba Ta-
vad mouvlis sakuTar xe-
lisuflebas. Cven sxva
rame gvafiqrebs _ ro-
gorc gairkva, avtorite-
tuli, seriozuli da
profesionaluri gamoce-
mebi publikas wlebis
ganmavlobaSi arajansaRi
informaciiT kvebavdnen
da ai, uceb _ aseTi af-
ronti.
mousyidvel damkvir-
vebels axali araferi
Seutyvia. qarTuli opo-
zicia, qarTveli ufleba-
damcvelebi gahyvirodnen imis
Sesaxeb, rac sinamdvileSi xde-
boda. bolos da bolos, socia-
luri qselis daxmarebiTac Se-
iZleboda simarTlis garkveva.
ara, yvelanair mtkicebulebas
zurgi Seaqcies. viTomda boro-
ti enebis, Wirveuli uiRbloe-
bis, kremlis xeli eria am yve-
laferSi. patara saqarTvelom
SeZlo, didma ruseTma ki _ ve-
ra. aranairi STabeWdileba ar
moaxdina TbilisSi maisis bo-
los gamarTuli mitingis sisx-
liani sasaklaos amsaxvelma fo-
toebmac ki. amis Semdeg ras
gvibrZanebT, rogor unda moveq-
ceT danaSaulebriv samyaros?
rogorc gairkva, saqarTve-
los xelisuflebis gamokvebil-
ma Jurnalistebma daTvuri sam-
saxuri gauwies TavianT kerps.
Jurnalistebi fotokamerebiT
aRbeWdavdnen: sufTa myudro
saknebs, ferad sufTa TeTre-
uls, magidaze xils, paemnebis
farTo darbazebs, kompiuterebs,
sportul trenaJorebs, samedi-
cino kabinetebs (maT Soris _
saoperacio, rentgenisa da sto-
matologis). 20o8 wels aSene-
buli cixe, romelic fotoebze
sanatoriums hgavda, msoflio
standartebs Seesabameboda. Ju-
rnalists lamis sareklamo buk-
leti gamouvida: `gepatiJebaT
saqarTvelos cixeebi~.
problemebi yvelgan aris.
Tumca amjerad, demokratiuli
gardaqmnebis flagmani da Suqu-
ra wumpeSi aRmoCnda. vinc
`evropul~ saqarTvelos Tval-
ebSi gvCrida da gvatyuebda,
jerjerobiT bodiSi ar moux-
dia, ar mounaniebia...
moismens ki `baladas glda-
nis cixeze~ amerika da evropa?
saqarTvelos erT-erT telearxze uCvenes video, Tu
rogor scemen da aupatiureben sapyrobilis TanamSromle-
bi patimrebs.
roca aseulobiT adamiani protestis niSnad quCaSi ga-
movida, mixeil saakaSvilma saswrafod dagmo wamebis faq-
tebi da pirobac dado, rom damnaSaveebs dasjis.
videos zogierTi monakveTi metismetad gaSiSvlebulia
_ magaliTad, naCvenebia, Tu rogor aupatiureben SiSvel
patimars sagniT, romelic sapolicio rkinis joxi aRmoC-
nda. gaugebaria, Tu rodis gadaiRes video, magram xeli-
sufleba mis namdvilobas ar uaryofs.
mmarTveli `erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~ SeeCexa
opoziciuri jgufis _ `qarTuli ocnebis~ sastik gamow-
vevas. am jgufis lideria biZina ivaniSvili, romlis erT-
erTi politikuri mokavSire zis gldanis cixeSi, sadac es
Zaladobaa gadaRebuli. swored man gadasca `mesame pirs~
videoCanaweri, romelSic soliduri Tanxa gadaixada, _
acxadebs prokuratura.
gamocemas mohyavs mosazrebebi saakaSvilis xelisufle-
bis mowinaaRmdegeebisa, romelTa mtkicebiTac, cixeebSi
aseTi viTareba `nulovani tolerantobis~ Sedegia: mcire
danaSaulis gamo xalxs cixeebSi agzavnidnen Cadenili da-
naSaulisTvis Seusabamo vadiT da amitomac bolo aTi
wlis ganmavlobaSi patimarTa raodenoba 6 aTasidan 24
aTasamde gaizarda.
wamebis Tavidan acilebis evropuli komisiis moxsene-
baSi braldebebia gldanis cixis yofili patimrebis wame-
bis gamo. im patimarTa 30 procentis sxeulebze, romle-
bic 2011 wels gardaicvalnen, aRmoCenilia fizikuri da-
zianebisa da wamebis kvali.
The New York Time
gaero saqarTvelos cixeebSi patimarTa wamebas gmobs
gaeros adamianis uflebaTa umaRlesi komisari navi
pilai mouwodebs saqarTvelos xelisuflebas, gamoiZi-
os saqarTvelos cixeebSi wamebisa da gaupatiurebis
faqtebi.
`movuwodebT mTavrobas, mogvces garantia imisa, rom
saguldagulod gamoiZiebs ara marto videoCanawerSi
asaxul, aramed nebismier sxva braldebas, romelic ada-
mianis uflebebis darRvevas exeba da masSi monawile
yvela pirs pasuxs mosTxovs~, _ ganacxada navi pilais
warmomadgenelma rupert kolvilma.
`es Canawerebi marTlac, rom Sokismomgvrelia. mas-
Si naCvenebia, Tu rogor uswordebian cixis badragebi
patimrebs fizikurad da moralurad, amcireben da sity-
vier Seuracxyofas ayeneben maT~, _ ganacxada komisris
warmomadgenlebma.
newsinfo.am
gaeros bavSvTa fondi (UNICEF) gmobs saqarT-velos penitenciur sistemaSi bavSvTa uflebebis
darRvevas.
bavSvis uflebebis konvenciis Tanaxmad, arc er-
Ti bavSvi ar unda gaxdes wamebis, sastiki, aradami-
anuri da misi Rirsebis Semlaxavi mopyrobis an das-
jis msxverpli. amaze yuradRebas amaxvileben sxva
saerTaSoriso da regionuli SeTanxmebebi da kon-
venciebi, romlebzec saqarTvelosac aqvs xeli mo-
werili da ratificirebulia saqarTvelos parla-
mentSi, _ aRniSnavs fondi.
UNICEF-i SeSfoTebas gamoTqvams agreTve avWa-
lis arasrulwlovanTa gamosaworebel dawesebule-
baSi iq myofi mozardebis mimarT mopyrobis gamo. es
faqtebi saqarTvelos saxalxo damcvelis moxseneba-
Si moxvda da amitomac gaeros bavSvTa fondi mimar-
Tavs saqarTvelos xelisuflebas, dauyovnebliv mo-
axdinos Sesabamisi reagireba.
UNICEF-i mouwodebs saqarTvelos mTavrobas,
safuZvlianad gamoiZios patimrebis, TavisuflebaRk-
veTili arasrulwlovnebis mimarT sastiki mopyro-
bis faqtebi da uzrunvelyos Zaladobis msxverpl-
Ta da mowmeTa usafrTxoeba.
saqarTvelos ori telearxiT naCvenebi Sokismom-
gvreli videoCanawerebiT gacxadda, rom saqarTve-
los cixeebSi patimrebs araadamianurad epyrobod-
nen _ sastikad scemdnen, gaukuRmarTebuli gziT
aupatiurebdnen. es kadrebi gadaiRo cixis yofilma
TanamSromelma, romelic axla belgiaSi imyofeba.
bolo dReebis ganmavlobaSi Tbilissa da saqar-
Tvelos sxva qalaqebSi saprotesto aqciebi imarTe-
ba.
ria.ru
`balada gldanis cixeze~demokratiuli gardaqmnebis flagmani
da Suqura wumpeSi aRmoCnda
wamebis amsaxvelma videomsaqarTvelos qalaqebSiuwesrigoba gamoiwvia
gaeros bavSvTa fondi saqarTveloSipatimarTa wamebas aprotestebs
mimoxilva moamzada g. WavWavaZem.
24 saerTo gazeTi #41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
`̀ssaaeerrTToo ggaazzeeTTss~~ eeqqsskklluuzziiuu-
rraadd eessaauubbrreebbaa `̀vvaarrddeebbiiss rreevvoo-
lluucciiiiss~~ SSeemmddeegg 1144 wwlliiss aassaakkSSii
uuddaannaaSSaauulloodd ddaappaattiimmrreebbuullii
gvanca yufaraZe._ gvanca, ra etapzea axla
Tqveni saqme? ramdenadac vici,
probacioneri xarT.
_ diax, probacioneri var,
periodulad mevaleba gamov-
cxadde probaciis biuroSi...
Cemi saqme gadagzavnilia st-
rasburgis sasamarTloSi, rad-
gan dakavebis dRidan dRemde yo-
velTvis vambobdi da vityvi,
rom ar var damnaSave, ufro me-
tic, yovelTvis moviTxovdi,
rom Cemi saqme Zirfesvianad yo-
filiyo gamoZiebuli. vasaxeleb-
di im pirebs, romlebsac maSinac
vaxsenebdi, roca mowmis statu-
siT videqi samarTaldamcavebis
winaSe da me gaxldiT saqmis er-
TaderTi mowme.
_ ra mdgomareoba dagxvdaT
sapatimroSi?
_ araTu maSin, Cemi dakavebis
periodSi, aramed dResac ar ar-
sebobs saqarTveloSi asrulw-
lovan gogonaTa calke ganyofi-
leba, 14 wlis viyavi, roca da-
mapatimres da arasrulwlovan
patimrebTan Semiyvanes pirdapir.
aq ijda 12 qalbatoni da es sa-
kani iTvleboda mTel cixeSi
`saukeTeso~ saknad. 25 kv.m. siv-
rceSi 8 nari idga, erTi gada-
saSleli e.w. `leJanka~. erTi
qalbatoni saerTod sawolis ga-
reSe iyo.
es iyo Soki CemTvis.
ar iyo sunTqvis saSualeba,
araviTari ventilacia, antisani-
taria, yvela fanjara TiTqmis
amoqolili iyo...
magram droTa ganmavlobaSi
yvelaze metad rac mawuxebda,
is iyo, rom vxedavdi, iq iyvnen
sruliad udanaSaulo qalbato-
nebi.
ratom var ase darwmunebuli
maT udanaSaulobaSi? zustad
vici, maT iseve ar hqondaT da-
naSauli Cadenili, rogorc me.
umravlesoba, cxadia, damna-
Save iyo, magram arc ise cota
iyvnen patimrebi, romlebic sas-
jels ixdidnen, ubralod, viRa-
cis interesis gamo. rom ar mis-
ces Cveneba imaT winaaRmdeg, vis-
zec avalebda gamoZieba cru Cve-
nebis micemas. visac hqonda biz-
nesi an garkveuli saxis Tanxebi
da iTxovdnen wilebs, maRalCi-
nosnebis garkveuli interesebis
gamo da a.S. amitom mimaCnia, rom
yvela im adamianis saqme xelax-
la aris gansaxilveli, vinc
iTxovs, rom Tavidan gadaxedon
maT saqmeebs.
rac Seexeba patimrebs, rom-
lebsac namdvilad aqvT danaSau-
li Cadenili, xSir SemTxvevebSi,
maTi sasjeli ar aris danaSau-
lis Tanazomieri. ar SeiZleba
mkvlels miesajos imaze nakle-
bi, visac sabuTebi aqvs gayalbe-
buli.
_ gvanca, im faqtebidan, rac
vixileT, cxadi gaxda, Turme ra
viTareba yofila cixeebSi. yve-
la moqalaqe amis Semdeg, albaT,
ifiqrebs, rom sasjelaRsrule-
bis TiToeuli TanamSromeli
jalaTi da moZaladea.
_ warmoidgineT, rom sapa-
timroebis TanamSromlebSic
arian namdvilad Rirseuli ada-
mianebic, magram maTi rao-
denoba Zalian mcirea da
isini xSir SemTxvevaSi,
zewolas ganicdian admi-
nistraciis mxridan.
Tumca arian sxva tipis
TanamSromlebic, magali-
Tad, roca moZalade bad-
ragi gametebiT urtyamda
patimar qals da administ-
raciis provocirebiT mox-
da bunti qalTa cixeSi,
administracia da maTTan
daaxloebuli TanamSrom-
lebi, ubralod, gaiqcnen,
pasuxismgebloba rom ar
aeRoT; keTilsindisieri
TanamSromlebi ki bolo
wuTamde iyvnen saerTo re-
Jimis sapyrobileSic da daxu-
ruli tipis sapatimroSic
msjavrdebulebTan er-
Tad. es maT aravin da-
ufasa, radgan koruf-
ciiT da RalatiT iyo
iqauroba savse.
elituri ko-rufcia akavSi-rebda erTmaneT-Tan maRali Ta-namdebobis pir-ebs da maTTandaaxloebul Ta-namSromlebs am
sistemaSi.privilegirebuli
iyvnen isini, visac ax-
loblebi hyavda depar-
tamentSi, saministro-
Si da rac yvelaze sa-
interesoa, korufci-
ul-danaSaulebriv qselSi Car-
Tuli TiTqmis yvela TanamSro-
meli erTmaneTTan naTesauri kav-
SiriT iyvnen dakavSirebulni.
gareSe piri amaTTan moxvdeboda
mxolod im SemTxvevaSi, Tuki
Tavs imiT gamoiCenda, rom in-
formaciebs miitanda, an patim-
rebis mimarT gansakuTrebul Za-
ladobas gamoiCenda. ar hqonda
mniSvneloba, qali iqneboda Tu
kaci. kacebi gansakuTrebul ag-
resias gamoxatavdnen da ufro
umowyalod scemdnen xSirad qa-
lebs, Tu saWirod CaTvlidnen,
gahyavdaT da calke usworde-
bodnen sastikad.
magram yvelaze sagangaSo ma-
inc is iyo, rom sapatimroSi
narkotikuli nivTierebebi Cveu-
lebrivad Semodioda. ra Tqma
unda, es ver moxdeboda maRali
Tanamdebobis pirebis Tanxmobis
da Tanamonawileobis gareSe, ub-
ralod, veravin gabedavda amas
Tu maRalCinosnebisgan ar iqne-
boda nebarTva; cixeSi akrZalu-
li ram verafriT Semovidoda,
miT umetes, narkotikuli nivTi-
erebebi.
_ da dRemde ase grZeldeba?
_ 2006 wlidan aseTi situ-
acia iyo. xolo mas Semdeg, rac
koloniaSi 2009 wels buntis
provocireba moxda, SeizRuda
cixis administraciis korufci-
uli gegmebi.
administraciis da maT Tana-
moazreTa xeliT xdeboda patim-
rebisTvis narkotikebis SeTava-
zeba. Tu gamoZieba Catardeba
amaze, es faqtebi dadasturdeba.
_ Tqven ambobT, rom qalTa
koloniis administraciam ico-
da, rom cixeSi narkotikuli
nivTierebebi Tavisuflad Sedio-
da?
_ iciT, raSia saqme? roca
adamiani dawesebulebas xelmZR-
vanelobs, man icis, visTan ra
urTierTobebi arsebobs da dain-
teresebulic aris icodes, ra
xdeba.
Cveni movaleobaa, xma amovi-
RoT da vaRiaroT mankierebebi.
amis dro axla namdvilad aris.
yvelanair sazRvars gascda ukve
yvelaferi. Cveni valia, minimum
xeli SevuwyoT imas, rom gair-
kves, ra xdeba sasjelaRsrule-
bis dawesebulebebSi...
me yovelTvis velodi am
dros.
yvelaferi ki gamoiwvia iman,
rom aravin arasdros ar dasji-
la arc sisastikisTvis, arc ko-
rufciisTvis, arc cixeSi bun-
tis mowyobisTvis. arada, buntis
provocireba swored administ-
raciam moaxdina. maT daRupes pa-
timari qalebi.
_ Tqven ambobT, rom cixis
administracias bunti awyobda?
ratom?
_ bunti moxda im periodSi,
roca patimrebis masobrivi
Sewyaleba igegmeboda. patimarTa
nawils, visac Sewyaleba SeiZ-
leboda Sexeboda da e.w. udos
qvemdebare qalbatonebs, adminis-
traciisTvis garkveuli Tanxa
hqondaT gadaxdili, rom gasaTa-
visuflebelTa siaSi moxvedri-
liyvnen. SeTanxmeba hqondaT ad-
ministraciasTan, Sewyalebis ko-
misiis wevrebTan Tanxis sanacv-
lod Tavisuflebis yidvaze. bo-
los saqme iqamde mivida, rom
xelmZRvaneloba veRar akontro-
lebda procesis daCqarebis ms-
urvel patimrebs, maT kategori-
ul moTxovnebs winaaRmdegobas
veRar uwevdnen. pa-
timrebi iTxovdnen pa-
suxebs, xolo pasu-
xismgebeli aravin iyo.
roca eubnebodnen:
Cven xom gadagixadeT
Tanxa? isini pasuxob-
dnen _ ar viciT, ra-
ze laparakobT.
buntis Semdeg ki
yvela Rirebuli in-
ventari, rac iyo,
Tundac zonis sakuT-
reba, an TviTon patim-
rebis kuTvnili, admi-
nistraciam miiTvisa
da aravis gaurkvevia,
sad, vin, ratom waiRo
es nivTebi. buntis
Semdeg RamiT, roca patimrebis
koloniidan gayvana moxda, am-
bobdnen, rogor anaTebda ezoSi
aseulobiT mobiluri telefo-
ni. isini patimrebma gadayares,
radgan akrZaluli nivTi gaxl-
daT.
buntis gamoZiebisas mowmee-
bad miiyvanes isev is pirebi,
romlebsac Tanxa hqondaT gamo-
Zaluli patimrebisTvis...
areulobis mowyobisTvis ki pa-
timrebs sasjelze 10-15 weli
miemataT...
oTxi wlis ganmavlobaSi vu-
yurebdi patimar qalTa damcire-
bas, cema-wamebas. weliwadi da 8
Tve, 6 kv.m. sakanSi viyavi Cake-
tili, uSuqod. im periodSi
xSirad laparakobdnen, TiTqos
sapatimroebSi sulebi dadiod-
nen, maSin 14 wlis viyavi da ra-
tomRac manamde saxlSi marto
arasdros davrCenilvar, Zalian
meSinoda, cxadia. xan virTxa ga-
irbenda, xan raRac gaixmaurebda,
magram bolos, SiSs vZlie, es
grZnoba, mgoni, saerTod gamiq-
ra...
magram dRes mTavari isaa,
TiToeulma Cvenganma vifiqroT
imaze, rom am saxelmwifos mSe-
neblobaSi nebismieri pasuxism-
gebloba aris, rogorc privile-
giis saxiT, aseve movaleobebis
saxiT. maSin yvelaferi iqneba
ise, rogorc sazogadoebis um-
ravlesoba moisurvebs. sazoga-
doeba unda iyos principuli da
vfiqrob, rom Cven gvaqvs amis Za-
la.
iranda kalandaZe
ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss rreessppuubblliikkiiss uuzzeennaaeessii ssaabbWWooss ddeeppuuttaatteebbiissaa ddaa
aaRRmmaassrruulleebbeellii xxeelliissuufflleebbiiss wwaarrmmoommaaddggeenneellTTaa
gg aa nn cc xx aa dd ee bb aavacnobierebT ra qveyanaSi Seqmnil rTul da safrTxisSemcvel viTarebas, qveynis momavalze pa-
suxismgeblobis grZnobiT mivmarTavT sruliad saqarTvelos.
Cven TqvenTan erTad SevZeliT erovnul-gganmaTavisuflebeli moZraobis saxelmwifoebriv damou-
kideblobamde miyvana;
TqvenTan erTad sakuTar Tavze gadavitaneT da ganvicadeT saxelmwifo gadatrialebis tragiku-
li wlebi;
SevardnaZis ukanono reJimisgan xsnisa da qveyanaSi erovnuli Tanxmobis Camogdebis mizniT da ime-
diT TqvenTan erTad mxardaWera gamovucxadeT egreTwodebul `vardebis revolucias~.
TqvenTan erTad ganvicadeT pirveli didi imedgacrueba, rodesac saakaSvilma 2004 wlis 5 ian-
vars qaSveTis eklesiaSi RvTisa da eris winaSe dadebuli fici gatexa da mis mier xelmowerili
erovnuli Tanxmobis deklaracia faratina qaRaldad aqcia.
dRes saqarTveloSi mZvinvarebs araadamianuri, antidemokratiuli, antierovnuli, moZalade reJi-
mi, romelic ukanasknel dromde demokratiis niRbiT msoflio Tanamegobrobis SecdomaSi Seyvanas
cdilobda. sapatimroebSi arsebuli mdgomareobis saaSkaraoze gamotanilma televiziiT naCvenebma Se-
aZrwunebelma faqtebma farda axada imitirebul demokratias da msoflios daanaxa reJimis `demok-
ratiis~ namdvili arsi.
Cven vgmobT Zaladobaze da SiSze dafuZnebuli xelisuflebis `moRvaweobas~ da mogiwodebT, un-
dobloba gamoucxadoT nacionalur moZraobas, rogorc damnaSave uzneo mmarTvelobis sayrdens.
Cveni samSoblo kidev erTxel dadga didi arCevanis winaSe. dRes wydeba TiToeuli Cvenganisa da
mTeli qveynis bedi.
yvelaferi unda viRonoT, raTa ar mivceT mxilebul, diskreditebul damnaSave reJims areulo-
bis provocirebis da arCevnebis CaSlis saSualeba.
zaur qobalia, robert petriaSvili, valter SurRaia, lia kacaZe, jemal Sonia, soso baraTaSvili, paata baraTaSvili,
dimitri qeburia, Tengiz beJitaSvili, besarion bibineiSvili, Tengiz kublaSvili, gia mamforia, anzor siWinava,
mirian wiklauri, guram absanZe, goCa biWaSvili, gia TavzaraSvili, gigla baxtaZe, merab RvinefaZe, indiko qobalia, valeri izoria,
vaxtang kalandia, nodar xurciZe, gela gogolaZe.
gvanca yufaraZe:gvanca yufaraZe: qalTa koloniaSi bunti cixis administraciam moawyo
25saerTo gazeTi#41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
amerikuli demokratia
100 dReSi
1992 wlidan, roca saqarT-
velo SevardnaZis ukanono xeli-
suflebis uRlis qveS moeqca,
gazafxulis pirvelive TveebSi
evroamerikeli Zma-biWebi Sevar-
dnaZisa, mal-male Camodiodnen
saqarTveloSi, raTa msoflios-
Tvis eCvenebinaT SevardnaZisaT-
vis TavianTi mxardaWera!
vinRa dagvrCa? ra Tqma unda,
jeims beikeria am mxriv sainte-
reso. igi 1991 wlis 26 maiss
estumra Tavis usayvarles da
uturfes megobars, `did poli-
tikoss~ _ SevardnaZes.
vnaxoT, ras wers `saqarTve-
los respublika~ (#90, 1992
w.) Tavis pirvel gverdze:
`amerikis SeerTebuli Sta-
tebis saxelmwifo mdivnis, je-
ims beikeris viziti saqarTve-
loSi!
amerika mxars uWers demok-
ratiul saqarTvelos.
26 maiss, CamosvlisTanave,
batonma beikerma gancxadeba gaa-
keTa JurnalistebisaTvis. man
Tqva:
-moxaruli var, rom Camovedi
damoukidebel, demokratiul sa-
qarTveloSi da Tan Camovitane
prezident buSisa da amerikeli
xalxis saukeTeso survilebi
(sul raRac oTxi Tvis win ki,
saqarTvelo Turme diqtaturaSi
ixrCoboda da ase ucbad, sul
raRac asiod dReSi saqarTvelo
damoukidebeli da demokratiu-
li gamxdara! _ j.d.).
Tqven itvirTeT aaSenoT de-
mokratiuli sazogadoeba _ `Ta-
visuflebis burji~, rogorc
amas prezidenti buSi uwodebs...
ar arsebobs sxva arCevani, Tu
saqarTvelos surs Sevides de-
mokratiul erTa dasavleTis
TanamegobrobaSi.
wvlili, romelic Tqvenma
mTavrobam Seitana demokratiu-
li, politikuri institutebis
ganvi-Tarebis saqmeSi, gansakuT-
rebiT mniSvnelovania.
... axla, roca erovnuli ga-
erTianebis procesi daiwyo, ime-
di gvaqvs, rom es principi gav-
rceldeba Tqvens arCevnebze (ra
erovnul gaerTianebazea batone-
bo saubari, roca qveyanaSi, pi-
riqiT, sisxli iRvreba da xal-
xi oradaa gaxleCili? _ j.d.).
piradad CemTvis Zalze sasi-
xaruloa, kidev erTxel Sevxvde
karg megobars eduard Sevardna-
Zes. igi gabeduli lideria, ro-
melsac icnoben da pativs scemen
planetaze, msoflio demokrati-
ul moZraobaSi Setanili wvli-
lisaTvis.
sapatio stumars miesalma
batoni eduard SevardnaZe. man
kerZod, ganacxada:
-minda vTqva, rom baton bei-
keris stumroba mniSvnelovani
etapi iqneba saqarTvelos demok-
ratiuli saxelmwifos mSeneb-
lobaSi... yvela siZneles davZ-
levT, rameTu mxarSi gvidganan
iseTi didi megobrebi, rogore-
bic arian prezidenti buSi da
batoni beikeri: amerikis SeerTe-
buli Statebi da mravali sxva
demokratiuli saxelmwifo.
beikerma ganagrZo:
-prezident buSsa da me (bei-
kers! _ j.d.) gvesmis, rom saqar-
Tvelos gadasvla totalita-
rizmidan damoukideblobisaken
aRmafrTovanebeli da amave
dros, Zneli amocanaa. saqarTve-
los ekonomikis aRorZinebis er-
TaderT gzad migvaCnia saqarTve-
los integracia globalur eko-
nomikur sistemaSi.
pasuxad SevardnaZem Semdegi
sityviT mimarTa jeims beikers:
-dRes saqarTvelo kvlav da-
moukidebelia im politikis wya-
lobiT, romelic bolo wlebSi
msoflioSi damkvidrda. orivem
mas mTeli Zal-Rone SevalieT.
wlebis ganmavlobaSi mxardamxar
videqiT da Cvens kolegebTan er-
Tad, xels vuwyobdiT udides
pozitiur gardaqmnebs msoflio-
Si.
maxsendeba Cveni Sexvedrebi
evropasa da amerikaSi, aziasa da
afrikaSi, magram es Cveni pirve-
li Sexvedraa aq. winaT es ver
moxerxdeboda kargad cnobili
mizezebis gamo (radgan zviad
gamsaxurdia gaxldaT saqarTve-
los respublikis prezidenti! _
j.d.)
axla ki, bolos da bolos,
moxda is, razedac araerTgzis
gvisaubria (CamovagdeT zviad
gamsaxurdia da amis Sesaxeb, sad
aRar gvisaubriao, pirdapir da-
naSauls aRiarebs SevardnaZe,
dana-Sauls ara mxolod Tavisas,
aramed jeims beikerisasac! _
j.d.). ver vixseneb Cvens verc
erT Sexvedras, rom ar gvelapa-
rakos saqarTveloze da Tqvens
aq SesaZlo CamobrZanebaze. Tqven
mSobliur qalaq hiustonSi, de-
daTqvenis saxlSic ki amaze vsa-
ubrobdiT (saqarTveloSi rom
xelisufleba daemxoT, imisaT-
vis, rom jeims beikeri rogorme
saqarTveloSi Camosuliyo, Tur-
me dedis TandaswrebiTac ki
TaTbirobdnen, gegmebs awyobdnen!
_ j.d.).
Semdeg araerTxel mifiqria,
rodis damibrunebdiT vals. es
mxolod mas Semdeg moxda, rac
Cemi samSoblo demokratiuli
ganviTarebis gzas daadga.
axla bari-bars varT (ramxe-
la vali hqonia beikers eduard
SevardnaZisa, rom mis gadaxdas
mTeli saqarTvelos Tavisufle-
ba Sealia! _ j.d.).
Tqveni CamobrZaneba politi-
kuri gancxadebaa imaT mxardasa-
Werad, visac gulmxurvaled
surs, rom saqarTvelom Rirseu-
li adgili daikavos msoflio
gaerTianebaSi. erTa ojaxis pa-
tivcemuli wevri gaxdes!
Cveni samyaro saqarTveloa,
mxolod im gagebiT, rom Cveni
samSoblosaTvis adgils veZebT
did zogadsakacobrio samyaro-
Si~.
davaleba:
saqarTvelos
daSla-ddaqucmaceba
Cems mkiTxvels vTxov gaixse-
nos, rom SevardnaZe Tavis evro-
amerikel `ZmebTan~ saubrebisas,
ganuwyvetlad saubrobs raRac
did msoflio erTobaze, stan-
dartebze, valdebulebebze... ro-
ca ismen yovelive amas, Zalaune-
burad eWvi gipyrobs _ marTlac,
es SevardnaZe, raRaca saidumlo
organizaciis wevria, romelic
cdilobs msoflio-Si erTi
mTavrobis, erTi sarwmunoebis,
erTi sasamarTlos, erTi proku-
raturis, erTi jiSis adamianis
Seqmnas... saamisod ki saWiroa
sxvadasxva erovnebaTa waSla-ga-
nadgureba da im sarwmunoebaTa
ngreva-mospoba, rac aqamde gaaCn-
daT ama Tu im xalxs!
sul ar msurda mesaubra yba-
daRebul masonTa uSvelebel ga-
erTianebebze, magram imdeni faq-
tia, imdeni kiTxvaa, rom iZule-
buli var, Cavxedo cnobili qar-
Tveli sazogado moRvawis, aka-
demikosis, profesoris, mwerli-
sa da publicistis, elizbar ja-
veliZis erT-erT metad sayu-
radRebo wigns, romlis saTau-
ria `avahme, Cemo mamulo!...~:
`upirveles yovlisa, unda
gaviTvaliswinoT msoflio geo-
politikuri viTareba, dRevande-
li procesebi zRvardaudebeli
globalizaciis fonze rom mim-
dinareobs. iwyeba msoflios axa-
li gadanawileba, romlis arqi-
teqtorTa umTavresi mizania
samyaros mravalferovnebis aRg-
va dedamiwis zurgidan da erT-
ferovani msoflios Seqmna, sa-
dac icxovrebs xalxi yovelgva-
ri erovnul-eTnikuri specifi-
kurobisagan daclili, erovnu-
li cnobierebis, zneobisa da
tradiciebisgan gawmendili, sam-
Soblos siyvarulis gancda-Cak-
luli... adamianTa da erTa moZu-
le es Tvalsazrisi ki saTaves
iRebs masonuri moZRvrebidan~.
Cven am Temas SemdgomSic da-
vubrundebiT imitom, rom msof-
lioSi ganviTarebuli, erTi Se-
xedviT, ucnauri Tu auxsneli
movlenebi, sworedac civiliza-
ciis sawinaaRmdegod mimdinare-
obs.
manam ki davubrundeT saqarT-
velos, romelic msoflio arqi-
teqtorebs dasaSleli qveynebis
saidumlo siaSi hyavT Seyvanili.
evroamerikas, am mxriv, guli
saguleSi aqvs. simSvidec ki eZa-
lebaT, radgan erT-erTi Zlieri
warmomadgeneli _ SevardnaZe ga-
aCniaT kavkasiaSi, kerZod _ sa-
qarTveloSi.
SevardnaZe ki, did politi-
kosad da demokratiis sanTlad
Seracxili (SemdgomSi, sanTeli
iqceva Suqurad, oRond ukve mi-
xeil saakaSvili mogvevlineba!),
davalebas pirnaTlad asrulebs.
davaleba, rogorc giTxariT,
gaxlavT saqarTvelos daSla-da-
qucmaceba ise, rom yvelaferi
ruseTs da TviT qarTvelobas
dabraldes. maT unda ixsnan sa-
qarTvelo qarTvelebisgan! saami-
sod, SevardnaZe, viTomda dest-
ruqciuli Zalebis winaaRmdeg
sabrZolvelad, dasavleT saqar-
TveloSi, ufro ki samegreloSi,
awyobs specialur, SeiaraRebul
laSqrobebs. Zarcvaven samegre-
los mosaxleobas, hxocaven, apa-
timreben! arTmeven qonebas, uxo-
caven pirutyvs! awameben adamia-
nebs. dedis Tvalwin xvreten Wa-
bukebs. aupatiureben qalebs da
Tan aRviveben saqarTvelos sxva-
dasxva kuTxeebs Soris SuRls!
imitom, rom zviad gamsaxur-
dia megrelia, samegreloSi eZe-
ben e.w. zviadistebs anu zviad
gamsaxurdias momxreebs da ad-
gilze xvreten.
yovelives aqvs qveteqsti.
yovelive dakveTilia imitom,
rom samegreloSi daiwyos ganma-
Tavisuflebeli moZraoba, rom,
rogorme ajanydes iqauri xal-
xi...
es ki, didi gegmis erTi na-
wilia.
saqarTveloze xom isedac
aris saubari, rogorc patara
imperiaze.
saqarTveloSi aris odesRac
specialurad Seqmnili sami av-
tonomia: afxazeTisa, samxreT
ose-Tisa da aWarisa!
afxazeTSi da e.w. samxreT
oseTSi areulobis gamowveva Se-
darebiT advilia. iq separatis-
tuli ganwyobileba ukve daTesi-
lia, Rvivdeba da saWiro klima-
tis dadgomisTanave, jejilic
amoiwvereba.
samegrelo rom miematos am
Savbnel Canafiqrs, amaSi
ra aris cudi saqarTve-
los mtrebisTvis?
SevardnaZe amas la-
mobs. garegnulad ki _
aRmosavleT saqarTve-
los sxvadasxva kuTxee-
bidan Sekrebili molaS-
qreebiT, jaba ioseliani
da Tengiz kitovani
mxedrion-gvardielebTan
erTad awiokeben sameg-
relos.
yovelives aqvs el-
feri Sinagani SuRlisa.
erTmaneTze qarTvelTa
wakidebisa!
evroamerika Tavis zraxvebs
axorcielebs, oRond TviTon
aucileblad CrdilSi unda id-
ges da, rogorc weRan mogaxse-
neT _ yvelaferi TviT qarTve-
lebis Sinaoms da ruseTis agen-
turas unda dabraldes.
(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)
mware gakveTilebievroamerika, ruseTi da saqarTvelo
ciklidan: omi bneleTTan _ ricxvi misi 666
jemal davlianiZe
gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix.
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axalqalaqis centri: XIX sa-
ukunis somxuri eklesia mloc-
velebs ver itevs, ezoSi maTi
sulieri mamis vazgen I-iis Zegli
da spitakis miwisZvris msxverp-
lTa memoriali, kulturis sax-
lis win ki mesrof maSTocis
Zegli dgas. moSorebiT, aspinZi-
saken Camavali gzis siaxloves,
xevSi, rusTvelis biusti Seyu-
Jula. qalaqis quCebSi somxuri
simRerebi ismis. raionul cent-
rSi didxans ar vCerdebiT da
Zveli axalqalaqis nangrevebis-
ken miviCqariT.
naqalaqaris citadelisgan
bevri aRaraferi darCenila. XIX
saukunis dasawyisSi ruseT-TTur-
qeTis omis, bataliebs TiTqmis
srulad gaunadgurebia igi.
1807 wlis 8 maiss, Triale-
Tidan, Tavfaravanis tbis gamov-
liT, gadmosulma ruseTis armi-
am, gudoviCis meTaurobiT, axal-
qalaqi alyaSi moaqcia. rusebTan
gamocxadda cixis yofili komen-
danti gamahmadianebuli begi ma-
Cabeli, magram mis konsultaci-
ebs dadebiTi Sedegi ver mouta-
nia rusebisTvis. marTalia, maT
erT-erTi godolis aReba moa-
xerxes, magram igi Taviseburi
xafangi aRmoCnda, radgan Tur-
qebma male aafeTqes da miwasTan
gaaswores, rus jariskacebTan
erTad. 9 maiss, brZolas axal-
cixidan amouswro faSa selim
ximSiaSvilma, romelic axalqa-
laqis damcvel ZmisSvils wamo-
eSvela da gudoviCis korpusi
Tavfaravnamde gadareka. rusebma
5 saaTSi 900 kaci dakarges.
1810 wlis 25 ivliss, aq
axalqalaqis samxreT misadgomeb-
Tan rusulma jarma, italiuri
warmoSobis generlis markiz pa-
uliCis meTaurobiT, RamiT daa-
marcxa da, bagrat batoniSvilis
sityvebiT rom vTqvaT, `aotna
sparsni, Turqni da lekni, vidre
Teqvsmeti aTas kacamde~. magram
axalqalaqi Turqebma sabolood
mxolod 18 wlis Semdeg daTmes.
general-ferldmarSalma ivane
paskeviCma cixesimagreSi gamagre-
bulT Tavisi kacebi gaugzavna
mosalaparakeblad _ usisxlod
damnebdiTo. parlamentarebs ci-
xis win daxvedrian iqaurebi da
uTqvamT _ `Cven arc erevnelebi
varT da arc yarselebi, axalci-
xelebi varT, colSvili karga
xania gavxizneT da aq darCenil-
ma 1000 kacma gadavwyviteT sis-
xlis ukanasknel wveTaemde vib-
rZoloT~. 1828 wlis 24 ivliss
ruseTis armiam 18 zarbaznidan
gauxsna cecxli axalqalaqs da
qva qvaze ar datova. me-
ore dRes, roca axalqa-
laqelTa dasaxmareblad
artaanidan 2 aTasi lazi
amovida, brZola damTav-
rebuli iyo. axalqalaq-
Si datyvevebul 16 dide-
buls Soris iyo gamahma-
dianebuli qarTvelic
sanjay-begi falavandiS-
vili. igi generalma os-
ten-ssakenma da polkov-
nikma raevskim Tan iax-
les xerTvisis cixis
operaciaSi.
... da ai, axla vdga-
var naqalaqaris teritoriaze,
Sevcqeri morRveul galavans,
godolebs, qarvaslas da vfiq-
rob rusTa politikaze: nuTu
yvelwaferi paskeviCis xarbi bu-
nebis bralia? gasagebia, rom,
rogorc yvela imperia, ruseTic
sakuTari sazRvrebis gafarTove-
bisTvis Rvrida sisxls samxreT-
Si, magram aqedan rom gamahmadi-
anebuli qarTvelebi TurqeTSi
ar gaestumrebina, an maT adgil-
ze qristiani qarTelebi daesax-
lebina da ara erzrumeli somxe-
bi, ruseTi gana aseT dReSi Cag-
vyrida an Caigdebda sakuTar
Tavs? paskeviCis namoqmedari xom
dResac naRmiviT devs qarTvele-
biT naklul javaxeTSi da arc
aravin icis, rodis an vis sasar-
geblod afeTqdeba igi.
Cveni megzuri guram winwka-
laZe miambobs:
_ soxumis dacemis wina dRe-
ebSi axalqalaqSi umZimesi viTa-
reba Seiqna qarTvelebisTvis.
aqauri somxebis agresuli naw-
ili meore yarabaxis mowyobas
apirebda javaxeTSi. ramdenime
somexma megobarma Cumad Se-
matyobina_ guram, Sen rom aqe-
dan wamsvleli ara xar, viciT,
magram col-Svili mainc gadama-
leo. dRe-dReze velodi Tofis
gasrolas, magram ufalma gadag-
varCina yvelani _ somxebic da
qarTvelebic...
naqalaqaris teritoriaze
SevdivarT. Tavis droze aq arqe-
ologebma neoliTisa da adreb-
rinjaos epoqebis namosaxlarTa
kvalsac ki miagnes, Cven ki axla
IX-X saukuneebis eklesiis naS-
Tebs veZebT, romelic istoriu-
li sabuTebiT Tavisufali jvris
tipis gumbaTiani taZari yofila.
rogorc irkveva, igi naqalaqaris
ZiriTadi SesasvlelTan axlos,
aRmosavleT galavanTan mdgara,
axla ki mxolod zeZirkvlis
donezea SemorCenili.
_ es ra aris? _ vekiTxebi
guram winwkalaZes da erT swor-
kuTxa, fisiT gabidnul qvasTan
vuxmob.
gurami mxrebs iCeCavs da me-
ubneba, rom ase guldasmiT ar
dakvirvebia adre am alags. qva,
romelzec horizontalurad
aris amokveTili somxuri sity-
vebi, vertikalurad aris Camjda-
ri miwaSi. iqve fisis natexebi
yria. viRacas sagangebod Tavda-
yira Caumagrebia miwaSi, riTac
kedlidan Camovardnis imitacia
Seuqmnia, magram nangrevTa grova-
Si qva amgvarad ar Caesoboda da
fisic ar gaxdeboda saWiro mis
gasamagreblad. rogor SeiZleba,
rom aman winaaRmdegoba Seuqmnas
axalqalaqis mxareTmcodneobis
muzeumSi arsebul istoriul
qvas, romelic saukunis winaT
eklesiis galavanSi naxes iv.ros-
tomaSvilma da eq.TayaiSvilma.
qvaze arsebuli qarTuli asom-
Tavruli warwera XIII saukuni-
saa: `saxeliTa RmrTisaiTa aRva-
Sene ese wmidai eklesiai mefoba-
sa daviTisasa da amirspasalaro-
basa avagisa, gamrekelis Zisa: ka-
xa, asibas da liparitis patro-
nobasa Sina... salocvelad suli-
sa... isdiags Seundven RmerTman.
amin~. isdiagi Zveli taZris xe-
laxla maSenebelia, rasac adas-
turebs naeklesiaris samSeneblo
fenebSi aRmoCenili V-VII da
VIII-IX saukuneebis qvajvarTa
postamentebi da lavgardanis
fragmentebi. es imas niSnavs, rom
sanam qalaqi daarsdeboda, aq ma-
namdec iyo adreSuasaukuneebis
dasaxleba, romelmac XI s-iis
30-iian wlebamde ugalavnod ar-
sebobda. rogorc niko berZeniS-
vili aRniSnavs: `qveynis Zlieri
ekonomikuri winsvlis Sedegad
am epoqaSi (adreSuasaukuneebSi
_ g.q.) qalaqebi Cndeba da izr-
deba ucixod, uzRudod, `upat-
ronod~... aseTi qalaqebi, buneb-
rivia erTguli dasayrdeni unda
yofiliyvnen mefis xelisufle-
bisTvis didgvarovan feodaleb-
Tan brZolaSi~. swored aseTi
dasayrdeni unda yofiliyo es
uzRudo qalaqi bagrat IV-TTvis
kldekaris erisTavTan brZolaSi.
swored bagrat IV-mm Semoavlo
galavani aqaurobas da namdvil
qalaqad aqcia. amas adasturebs
karibWesTan napovni qva asomTav-
ruli warweriT, romelSic, me-
fesTan erTad, dedamisi _ maria-
mic aris moxseniebuli.
`matiane qarTlisai~ mog-
viTxrobs, rom liparit baRvaS-
Tan damterebuli bagrat IV da
misi dasis kacebi `gavides java-
xeTs da iwyes axalqalaqisa
zRudeTa Senebad, rameTu mas
Jams uzRudo iyo~. magram es
zRude mainca da mainc mtkice
rom ar yofila, amas 1064 wlis
ambebic adasturebs. igive matia-
ne gadmogvcems, rom alf-arsla-
nis winaaRmdeg `mesxni aznaurni
da zemosa kerZoni Zlierad dges
axalqalaqs da brZodes sam dRe,
rameTu ara zRudiTa mtkiciTa
gasrulebul iyo axalqalaqi,
verRara daudgmides br-
Zola ZlierTa... Sevides
qalaqad Turqni da tyue
yvnes uricxvni sulni
qristianeTani, aRiRes
ganZi da tyue Zluri da
SeiReba wyali axalqala-
qisa sisxliTa~. giorgi
mcire ki dasZens, rom
Turqebma ara marto ri-
giT moqalaqeni, `aramed
did-ddidni da warCine-
bulni mTavarni da eris-
Tavni sameufoisa Cvenisa-
ni Zvir-ZZvirad mosrnes
da warwymdes~.
... teritoriis daT-
valierebisas qvevris ye-
lis msgavs xvrelTan
vCerdebiT. operatori
specganaTebis daxmarebiT
iRebs mas, magram es qvev-
ri ar aris, xaros ufro
hgavs. Tu gaviTvaliswi-
nebT, rom igi naqalaqa-
ris aRmosavleT monak-
veTSia, SegviZlia viva-
raudoT, rom igi im 150
metriani gvirabis erTi
Semadgeneli rgolia,
romelic arqeologTa
gamokvleviT faravnis-
wyalze Cadioda. mdina-
res gadavcqeri... aq, fer-
dobze kidev erTi naek-
lesiari moCans...
axalqalaqi Tavisi cixe-go-
dolebiT, sasaxliT, taZrebiT,
qarvasliT, zeTsaxdelebiT, wis-
qvilebiT, xaroebiT, gvirabebiT,
mokirwyluli gzebiT gaerTiane-
buli saqarTvelos pirmSo qala-
qi yofila.
... yofila. yvelaferi yofi-
la, yofilan qarTvelebic, mag-
ram ra elis javaxeTs xval?...
\gela qoqiaSvili
avtoris fotoebi
Zveli axalqalaqicentraluri javaxeTi
mmooggzzaauurroobbaa ssaammSSoobbllooSSii
naqalaqaris erTi monakveTis saerTo
xedi, qarvaslis naSTebi da cixe-koSkebi
somxuri eklesia axalqalaqSi
27saerTo gazeTi#41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.
mesxelma ukanaskneli
movlenebiT Sefiqria-
nebuli Tanamoazreebi
daamSvida, rom male
yvelas vinc xmas amoiRebs “ga-
dauvlian”, mesxels ar asve-
nebs gamCeni, vfiqrob droa
Wkua aswavlon axalcixeleb-
ma...
rogorc amboben uka-
nasknelma movlenebma
sakmaod Seafiqriana
merabiSvilis mSob-
lebi, Turme Jenos sami Rame
ar eZina, ar gegonoT nanaxma
Sezara, ara megobrebo – See-
Sinda!!! mesxelma da “yvelas
gadavlis” molodinma isic da-
amSvida!!!
mivmarTav yvela axalci-
xels, gansakuTrebiT nackoor-
dinatorebs, yvela aseTi Sex-
vedris, Semdeg TiToeli
Tgvengani xdebiT iseTi, amazr-
zeni jalaTebi kadrebSi, rom
vixileT, amitom girCevT dro-
ze moegoT gons!
d a f i q r d i T!!!
arakaci mesxeli yve-
la Tqvens saubars
iwers da Zalian ma-
le xalxSi gamosaCe-
ni piri aRar geqnebaT, icodeT:
merabiSvilebi, mesxelebi, kur-
taniZeebi, kapanaZebii da a.S.
gasaqcevad mzad arian, Tqven
ras apirebT, da kidev ramdeni-
me dRe gacliT da mere viwyeb
axalcixeli nac koordinato-
rebis anu nac CamSvebebis gva-
rebis da fotoebis gamoqveyne-
bas, droze CamoSoSordiT mag
uwmindurebs...
s u p e r m a r k e t e b i s
mlobelebo, Camoxse-
niT nacionalebis re-
klamebi, zurgsukan
ginebas girCevnieT pirSi uTx-
raT simarTle...
gons moegeT _ sir-
cxvilia axalcixe-
loba yovelTvis
Rirsebad iTvleboda
da axla am talaxiani Rorebis
gamo Tavi gvaqvs moWrili!!!
gons moegeT sanam jer ki-
dev ar aris gvian!!!
patriarqma Tqva, es
sxvaganac xdebao. ras
qvia sxvaganac xdeba?!
kiseri utexia yve-
las! me eri gaminadgures. xal-
xi ganadgurebulia da am fra-
zam unda Searbilos situacia?
patriarqi ar unda gadaefaros
xelisuflebas!”
ilia kolxidaSvili
Cven viciT, rom aras-
dros aravivin igdebs
xelT Zalauflebas
im ganzraxviT,rom
Semdeg sakuTari nebiT gadaaba-
ros sxvas.Zalaufleba saSua-
leba ki ar aris,saboloo mi-
zania!diqtaturas imisTvis ar
amyareben,rom revoluciis mo-
napovars gaufildnen,swored-
revolucias axdenen im miz-
niT,rom diqtatura damyar-
des!!!!!!!!!!!! devnis mizani – dev-
naaa!wamebis mizani-wameba!!!!!!!
Zalauflebis mizani–Zalauf-
lebaa!! xom iwyebT gage-
bas??????
xalxis azriT
zeciuri mxedarnieZRvnebaa biZinaas, Saalvaas daa elizbaars
daa yvelaa paatriots _ visaac uyvaars qveyaanaa
dRes mzem gahkveTa Ramis sibnele,
daRlil neStebTan gabrwyinda jvari,
cis binadarni _ gvixmobs varskvlavni _
biZina, Salva da elizbari...
zecad brwyinaven da ilocvian,
miwieridan zeciurisTvis,
rom ar daRondes xmali qarTuli
iqac Tavs swirven mSobel miwisTvis;
rom ar Semusros mterma venaxi,
qarTuli jiSi Tu mTa da bari,
xmalSemarTuli dganan mxedarni _
biZina, Salva da elizbari...
maTi sisxlia dResac rom mosCqefs,
mtevnebi vazis _ mzis Sesadari,
gvixmobs dairwes qarTul akvnebSi,
biZina, Salva da elizbari...
dganan mxedrebi _ qarTuli jiSi
zecad laplapebs qarTuli xmali
gvimravle, RmerTo, mtrebis jinaze,
biZina, Salva da elizbari.
rusudan (anastasia) kalandaZe
nino burjanaZe: miuxeda-
vad Zalian seriozuli gardatexi-
sa, Zalian seriozuli brZolebi
gvelis win da TviTdamSvidebas
ar unda miveceT. amitom kidev
erTxel davrwmundi, rom Cven
swor gadawyvetilebebs viRebT.
swori iyo Cveni gadawyvetileba
maSinac, roca mTeli am xnis gan-
mavlobaSi Seupovrad, garigebisa
da SeTanxmebis gareSe vebrZodiT
am reJims, kategoriulad viTxov-
diT am xelisuflebis, saakSvilis
gadadgomas. swori iyo Cveni brZo-
la gasul welsac miuxedavad imi-
sa, rom bevri gvsayvedurobda,
rom vCqarobdiT am reJimis moci-
lebas. aRmoCnda, rom swori iyo
Cveni aCqareba. rom yofiliyo re-
aluri solidaroba, aseve, azvir-
Tebuliyo sazogadoeba, es erTw-
liani ubedureba mainc ascdeboda
qveyanas da im konkretul adamia-
nebs, romelTa pirovnuli trage-
dia Cven erTad vixileT. da ax-
lac swori iyo Cveni gadawyveti-
leba, roca vTqviT, rom ar Se-
vuwyobT xels opoziciuri xmebis
daqsaqsvas, rakiRa ver Sedga er-
Tiani opoziciuri fronti, ver
moxerxda Cveni da „qarTuli oc-
nebis“ koordinirebuli moqmedeba,
Cven yvelafers gavakeTebT imisT-
vis, rom yvela xma reJimis wina-
aRmdeg Caiyaros erT yulabaSi,
raTa amiT reJims gaurTuldes ar-
Cevnebis gayalbeba da misTvis sa-
surveli Sedegis dadeba.
Tqven, albaT SiSobT, rom ar
ganmeordes 2003 wlis scenari,
roca xelisuflebaSi movida erTi
Zala 80-90%, romelsac ideebi
da miznebi ki keTilSobiluri
hqonda, magram Semdeg gardaiqmna
im simaxinjed, rasac Cven axla
vxedavT. yvelam vnaxeT, ra saSine-
lebac trialebs qarTul cixeSi,
minda, gavmxnevo yvela is adamiani,
romelic Sokirebulia nanaxiT,
Tavad patimrebi, maTi mSoblebi.
Cveni „saxalxo krebis“ marto 40
wevria cixeSi 26 maisis Semdeg
da maTi umetesoba swored glda-
nis cixeSia. CvenTvis ar arsebobs
Cveni da sxvisi patimari. yvela-
fers vakeTebdiT, raTa saerTaSo-
riso organizaciebisaTvis migvew-
vdina xma cixeebSi wamebis Sesa-
xeb. sikvdilamde scemes Cemi mRo-
li, raTa eRiarebina arCadenili
danaSauli - policielis mkvle-
loba da, ufro metic, moiTxovd-
nen misgan, Cemi SvilisTvis daeb-
ralebina es danaSauli. Cven
viTxovdiT solidarobas sxva
partiebisgan, magram vidre es kad-
rebi ar iqna dadebuli, solida-
roba ver iqna miRweuli.
es tragedia, ra Tqma unda di-
di dartymaa nacionaluri moZrao-
bisTvis da nebismier cota ufro
demokratiul qveyanaSi absolu-
turad dasrulebuli iqneboda
arCevnebis bedi. Cven Sarsanac
skeptikurad viyaviT ganwyobili
arCevnebisadmi, viZaxdiT, rom vid-
re saakaSvili ar gadadgeba, ar-
Cevnebi normalurad ver Catarde-
ba qveyanaSi. dRes batoni biZinas
mxridanac gaJRerda msgavsi wina-
dadeba. is ki ar iyo mTavari, xal-
xi vis miscemda xmas, aramed, ras
dawerda nacionaluri moZraoba.
me eWvi ar mepareboda, rom „qar-
Tuli ocneba“ moigebda arCevnebs,
Tuki es arCevnebi qveyanaSi Catar-
deba metnaklebad demokratiu-
lad. imaSic ar mepareboda eWvi,
rom Cven meore adgils aviRebdiT
opoziciur flangze. me arc
dRes var darwmunebuli, es moge-
ba gaformdeba Tu ara. Tumca bo-
lo dReebis movlenebma Zalian
didi gardatexa Seitana.
Tu saakaSvilis re-Jims gacilebiT gauad-vildeboda erTi kviriswin TavisTvis gamarjve-bis gaformeba, xolo`qarTuli ocnebisTvis~30-35% dawera, dRes esZalian gauWirdeba. Tum-ca dResac saubroben,rom gadaagoreben amsaqmes da es kargad CansmaT gamosvlebSi, romar apireben xelebis Ca-moyras, radgan ukan da-saxevi bevr maTgans nam-dvilad ar aqvs. da rad-gan ukve veRar SeZlebendaweron damajerebeligamarjveba, Seecdebiangaaformon gamarjveba,oRond mcire procenti-ani gansxvavebiT „qar-Tul ocnebasTan“. es Se-iZleba misaRebi aRmoCn-des dasavleTisaTvis,magram imeds vitoveb,rom `qarTuli ocneba~amas ar daTanxmdeba.
radgan dRes raime formiT na-
cionaluri moZraobis parlament-
Si datoveba da masTan TanamSrom-
loba, maSin roca ar iqneba garan-
tirebuli opoziciisaTvis abso-
luturi umravlesoba, romliTac
Cven SevZlebT damnaSaveebis das-
jas, realuri cvlilebebis gan-
xorcielebas, iqneba absolutu-
rad miuRebeli da me vfiqrob, sa-
zogadoebac amas moelis dRes
qarTuli ocnebisgan. raTa qar-
Tulma ocnebam moipovos, Seinar-
Cunos, daimkvidros dabejiTebiTi
gamarjveba am arCevnebze da abso-
luturi umravlesobiT daiwyos
reformebis ganxorcieleba.
arCevnebis SedegebisaTvis prin-
cipuli mniSvneloba aqvs, ra po-
zicias daikavebs sazogadoeba da
realuri opozicia. me vasrulebdi
prezidentis movaleobas 2008
wels. dasavleTi maSin akeTebda
gansakuTrebul aqcents, iseve, ro-
gorc dRes, rom stabiluroba yo-
filiyo SenarCunebuli. dasavleT-
ma da mec miviReT gadawyvetileba,
rom qveynis stabiluroba ufro
mniSvnelovani iyo im etapze, rac
unda vaRiaro, rom iyo didi Sec-
doma, radgan stabiluroba realu-
ri demokratiis gareSe ar arse-
bobs, rac Zalian male davinaxeT!
Tumca mTavari pasuxismgebloba im
arCevnebis gayalbebaze mainc ekis-
reba maSindel opozicias, romel-
mac ver SeZlo xmebis dacva da ga-
dawyvita, Segueboda Sedegebs, ra-
Ta gamarjveba 6 Tvis mere sapar-
lamento arCevnebSi moepovebina.
maSin saakaSvili ver gaiformebda
im Sedegebs. swored amitom aqvs
principuli mniSvneloba, `qarTu-
li ocneba~ ar daTanxmdes Tundac
xmebis 50/50-ze gadanawilebas,
radgan es ar iqneba legitimuri
arCevnebi da parlamenti, radgan
saqarTvelos mosaxleobis 50%
namdvilad ar uWers nacionalur
moZraobas xmas da dres opozici-
am maSindeli Secdoma ar unda ga-
imeoros. saakaSvili gaxlavT po-
litikuri cxoveli, romelic yo-
velTvis poulobs gamosaZroms
rTuli situaciidan. man fasaduri
cvlilebebi gaatara mxolod da
aravin daijeros, rom marTla gi-
orgi tuRuSi da eka zRulaZe ga-
atareben radikalur reformebs.
man Tavis droze me, parlamentis
Tavmjdomarec ki momartya, roca
mxolod qaRaldze gaaforma axa-
laias gadadgoma da sinamdvileSi
igi isev marTavda sistemas.
Tea wulukiani: preziden-
toba adamians ar aqcevs kacad da
arc warmateba. adamianobas, kaco-
bas, dedobas, qalobas, bevri sxva
rame sWirdeba, vidre erTi skami,
Tanamdeboba, amitom misi marTvis
meTodi iyo Cagvra da sakuTari
siZlieris mtkiceba sakuTarive
TavTan.
saakaSvilma saqarTveloSi gaa-
mefa mmarTvelobis mafiozuri
sistema. mmarTvel gundSi, rome-
lic gareSe TvalisTvis inarCu-
nebda monopoliTurobas... iyo
klanuri dajgufebebi. dapirispir-
bebebi gamwvavda da es ukve naTe-
li xdeba, vin vis upirispirdeba,
magram manamde iyo erTi aseTi
midgoma _ me Sen ar gexebi da
Sens sferoSi akeTe, rac ginda.
Teimuraz SaSiaSvili:`daujereblad geCvenebodaT, mag-
ram dRes mainc xom aRar iwvevs
eWvs,rom: “qalaqSi mkvleli dadis
da igi prezidentia“
sandro cagareli, `labo-
ratoria 1918~: yvelam viciT, rom
5-ianis Semoxazva aris Tanamonawi-
leoba cocxiT gaupatiurebaSi da
es aRar unda iyos aRarasdros.
24 saerTo gazeTi #41 (225), 26.IX-2.X, 2012 w.28C M Y K
qqaarrTTvveell ffaallaavvaannTTaa
g a n c x a d e b a
sxvis TvalSi bewvis damnaxavi, `gixarode-
niT~ mosuli, uamravi gauxsneli mkvlelobe-
biTa da sxva borot saqmeTa Camdeni xelisuf-
leba sakuTar TvalSi dires ver amCnevs da ra
gasakviria Cveni Rirseuli qarTuli sazoga-
doebisaTvis vandaluri, yovlad amazrzeni,
civiluri sazogadoebisaTvis miuRebeli faq-
tebi cixeebSi, patimarTa wamebisa da gaupati-
urebis Sesaxeb. aseTi faqtebi or aTeul welze
metia arsebobda da dResac araxalia.
Cven, Widaobis didi ojaxis warmomadgenle-
bi: msoflio, olimpiuri, evropis Cempionebi
da priziorebi, damsaxurebuli mwvrTnelebi,
sportis damsaxurebuli muSakebi, didi Tu pa-
tara, gamovxatavT udides SeSfoTebasa da gu-
liswyromas momxdari barbarosuli faqtebis
gamo.
moviTxovT saswrafod iqnas gamoZiebuli
arsebuli faqtebi da saTanadod daisajos ye-
la SemkveTi da Semsrulebeli, miuxedavad ma-
Ti Tanamdebobisa da pirovnebisa.
olimpiuri da msoflio Cempionebi levan TediaSvili, roman rurua, vaxtang blagiZe, SoTa xabareli,
leri xabelovi, zviad zviadauri, rostom abaSiZe, guram saRaraZe,
zorbeg beriaSvili, luka kurtaniZe