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Changes in RTP Multi-stream draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-multi-stream-07
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) Jonathan Lennox (Vidyo) Colin Perkins (University of Glasgow) Qin Wu (Huawei)
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Characters for Embedded font: !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~¡¢£¤¥¦§¨©ª«¬®¯°±²³´¶·¸¹º»¼½ÀÁÂÃÄÅÆÇÈËÌÍÎÏÐÑÒÓÔÕÖ×ØÙÚÛÜÝÞßàáâãäåæçèéêëìíîïðñòóôõö÷øùúûüýþÿĀāĂăąĆćĊċČĎďĐđĒĖėĘęĚěĞğĠġĢģĪīĮįİıĶķĹĺĻļĽľŁłŃńŅņŇňŌŐőŒœŔŕŖŗŘřŚśŞşŠšŢţŤťŪūŮůŰűŲųŴŵŶŷŸŹźŻżŽžƒȘșˆˇ˘˙˚˛˜˝ẀẁẃẄẅỲỳ–—‘’‚“”„†‡•…‰‹›⁄€™ĀĀĂĂĄĄĆĆĊĊČČĎĎĐĐĒĒĖĖĘĘĚĚĞĞĠĠĢĢĪĪĮĮİĶĶĹĹĻĻĽĽŃŃŅŅŇŇŌŌŐŐŔŔŖŖŘŘŚŚŞŞŢŢŤŤŪŪŮŮŰŰŲŲŴŴŶŶŹŹŻŻȘș−≤≥fifl
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› Changes
– Scheduling algorithm change
– Limit for transmission of initial RTCP compound packets
– Recommendation for mitigating legacy avg_rtcp_size calculation
– Piggybacking Feedback Packets on other SSRCs’ transmission
– Rules for determining point to point behavior vs. multiparty
– Intend no example configurations
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ЁЂЃЄЅІЇЈЉЊЋЌЎЏАБВГДЕЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯАБВГДЕЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯЁЂЃЄЅІЇЈЉЊЋЌЎЏѢѢѲѲѴѴҐҐәǽẀẁẂẃẄẅỲỳ№
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› Variables as used in RFC3550 and RFC4585
– tp: Time of previous RTCP transmission
– tc: Current Time
– tn: Time of next scheduled RTCP transmission
– Td: Deterministic transmission interval
› When aggregating: set tp variable to intended transmission
time (tt) rather than tc
– Intended transmission time is derived by calculating tn and doing
consideration and updating tn until allowed to send.
– To ensure maintaining bandwidth allocation
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ЁЂЃЄЅІЇЈЉЊЋЌЎЏАБВГДЕЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯАБВГДЕЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯЁЂЃЄЅІЇЈЉЊЋЌЎЏѢѢѲѲѴѴҐҐәǽẀẁẂẃẄẅỲỳ№
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› Simulations of RTP session where the number of SSRCs
per endpoint is reduced uncovered an issue:
– The tp value can drift into the future
› Example: ~2% of the tp values are more than 1.5*Td from tc
– Reverse Reconsideration was applied
– RTCP sender may go dormant for many reporting intervals
Issue with Previous Algorithm
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› When the number of SSRCs on an endpoint is more than what
can be aggregated in one RTCP compound packet:
– Then an SSRC with tn further into the future is skipped in the current
packet
– But, that SSRC is likely to be sender in the next, thus updating tp to tc
– Thus drift unlikely
› When the number of SSRCs all fit in one aggregate:
– Algorithm picks the SSRC(s) that gets low random number * Td
– A SSRC not picked for a couple of cycles can get tp further than
1.5/1.21828*Td and will never be picked
› Issue arises when the SSRC or SSRCs picked are removed
– Then tp for the remaining SSRCs is far into the future
Issue depends on #SSRCs
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› Set tp to the average of all
aggregated SSRCs’ transmission
time (tt)
– SSRC triggering transmission
has tt = tc
– Other SSRCs calculate tt =
intended transmission time
› Maintains bandwidth
consumption
› Ensures that tp is worst case set
to tc + 1.5/1.21828*Td
– This prevents drift
Proposed change
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Comparison: tp distributions
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Transmission interval
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› Changes
– Scheduling algorithm change
– Limit for transmission of initial RTCP compound packets
– Recommendation for mitigating legacy avg_rtcp_size calculation
– Piggybacking Feedback Packets on other SSRCs’ transmission
– Rules for determining point to point behavior vs. multiparty
– Intend no example configurations
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› When an endpoint joins an “unicast” session it may use a
zero delay before sending the initial compound RTCP
packet.
› We propose a limit to this behaviour to a maximum of
4 RTCP compound packets
– These RTCP compound packets can be aggregates
› Limit chosen based on the TCP Initial Window
Limit initial transmission
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› Legacy endpoint that doesn’t calculate avg_rtcp_size as in
this document:
– Will arrive on a Td value that is N times longer
– N is the number of reporting SSRCs in each compound packet
› Results in lower reporting rate
› Timeout modification should prevent timeout as long as
non-legacy has Td no larger than 1 second
› For cases where legacy endpoints are likely
– Limit aggregation to two SSRCs per compound, or
– Turn off aggregation
Legacy avg_rtcp_size
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› When an FB packet can’t trigger early transmission of the
SSRC(s) that is suitable to report
– AVPF says schedule regular RTCP, if that is prior to
T_max_fb_delay, else
– Drop FB packet
› We propose that it can be queued to be included
(piggybacked) on the first of any other SSRCs’ compound
packet which may be sent within T_max_fb_delay.
– Source of FB packet will still be suitable SSRC (Section 5.4.1)
Piggyback FB packets
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› Provide clear rule for how to judge Point-to-point vs.
Multiparty in scheduling algorithm
– Not based on number of SSRCs
› If Reporting groups are used:
– If only one external reporting group then P2P, else multiparty
› Else if number of endpoint external CNAMEs seen on
Media sending SSRCs are:
– Only one then P2P, else multiparty
› Will classify mixer cases as P2P
– Ok: Mixer will insulate the other legs or multiparty domain from
endpoint.
P2P vs. Multiparty
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› We have for a while considered configuration examples
– Was a TBD in Section 6.2.2
› In the interest of completing this work we intended to skip
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Skipping Examples
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› 2 Endpoint, each starts with 16 SSRCs each
› RR: 15000 bps, RS: 10000 bps, T_rr_int = 0, transport delay between endpoints 100 ms (Static: no jitter)
› Simulation loop 1. Send 300 RTCP packets
2. Remove one SSRC per endpoint
3. Perform reverse reconsideration due to the local SSRC
4. Sample the values of tp
5. Goto 1 unless there is only one SSRC per Endpoint
› The shown plots contains all sample values over 50000 repetitions of the above – For the old algorithm, the furthest drift that occurred in a specific run
was 75,6*Td
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SSRCs 1 2 3 4 5 8 12 16 24 31 32 64 128 256
AVPF 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
AVPF-AGG 0.37% -9.52% -8.64% -8.56% -7.11% -4.00% -1.96% 0.43% -0.17% -0.02% 0.33% 0.03% -0.28% -0.10%
AVPF-RG 17.16% -21.48% -40.46% -52.22% -59.99% -73.04% -81.07% -85.37% -85.26% -85.31% -84.53% -84.04% -83.32% -81.44%
AVPF-RG-AGG 17.38% -30.72% -49.37% -60.18% -67.11% -78.66% -85.42% -88.76% -88.27% -87.30% -86.49% -85.54% -83.98% -81.91%
Gain Matrix
• Reduction in average reporting interval compared to AVPF
• Report groups for endpoints with many SSRCs (>16):
• Under utilize bandwidth
• Reason is IIR filtering of avg_rtcp_size
• Example: AVPF-RG with 64 SSRCs per endpoint
• Packets with Reporting is 2.85% of total number of packets
• Report packets are ~8 times bigger (big report blocks)