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    Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura - HAARPTRUTVP

    Aired on Sunday, Oct 31, 2010

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    Published on Oct 12, 2012 by TopSecretNews1Conspiracy Theory W Jesse Ventura HAARP [Season 1, Episode 1] (Full Length HD)

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    00:00:01 Extensive experimentation at haarp.

    00:00:04 >> The haarp facility is a unique facility for basic research.

    00:00:08>> It's really about understanding really a portion of the atmosphere that right now we knowvery little about.

    00:00:14>> We really hope to understand more about this upper-atmospheric region and understandsome of the basic just physical processes that go on there.

    00:00:21 >> Narrator: Alex is not finding the same cooperation in fairbanks.

    00:00:26 >> Hey, governor, it's alex.

    00:00:28 Yeah, so, I spoke to the professor.

    00:00:30 He claims it's strictly there for experiments, research purposes only, that it can't change theweather, it's not a weapon.

    00:00:36Problem is, as soon he saw where I was going with my questions, he refused to be oncamera.

    00:00:43 Yeah.

    00:00:44 Make of it what you will.

    00:00:47 >> NarratoS ALEX AWAITS Instructions in alaska, a visitor arrives at the team's office.

    00:00:54 Brooks agnew is a scientist, engineer, and doctor of physics.

    00:00:59 He's spent years studying arctic weather patterns.

    00:01:04 He's about to demonstrate the awesome power of this so-called " he'll show how haarp's e.l.f.

    00:01:11Radio waves can actually push around rain clouds in the sky, and in the process change theweather.

    00:01:19 >> Well, this is a basic cloud chamber.

    00:01:22I'm going to make a cloud inside of it, stabilize it, make sure it's all nice and still, and thenwe're gonna move it using haarp impulses.

    00:01:30 >> Weather manipulation, the ability to control the weather in specific areas -- is it possible?

    00:01:36 >> It isn't even remotely possible.

    00:01:37 >> Narrator: The haarp researchers may not be as candid as they appear.

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    00:01:41They deny haarp can control th agnew shows investigator june sarpong just how easy theprocess can be.

    00:01:50 >> When I turn the pulses on, this cloud should move from bottom to top.

    00:01:54 >> Okay.

    00:01:54 >> Are you ready?

    00:01:55 >> Yeah.

    00:01:56 [ Electricity crackling ] oh, yeah!

    00:02:02 You canreallysee it.

    00:02:03 >> It's almost like there's a windinsidethe chamber.

    00:02:07 >> So, if this was the sky, you would see rapid movement into the sky.

    00:02:10 >> Right.

    00:02:11 And this is just a fraction of the power that's used in haarp.

    00:02:15 We're using about 100 watts in this little cloud chamber.

    00:02:19 Haarp uses a billion watts.

    00:02:21 So, we pushed a couple of cubic feet of cloud vapor in a few seconds.

    00:02:25With a billion watts, you could easily move a cloud wherever you wanted to move it usinghaarp.

    00:02:38 >> Could haarp be used as an electronic weapon?

    00:02:42 >> Certainly not.

    00:02:47 >> Is there an example where haarp has actually been used in warfare?

    00:02:51 >> Yes.

    00:02:52In the first iraq war, there's evidence that haarp was used to irradiate the battlefield prior tothe invasion from kuwait.

    00:02:58 When the tanks rolled into t area, the troops piled out of the bunkers.

    00:03:03 Not willing to give a fight, they gave up en masse.00:03:06 These were the iraqi troops.

    00:03:08 >> And whadid haarp do to them?

    00:03:10 >> It can prevent you from sleeping.

    00:03:12 It creates anxiety.

    00:03:13 It can even upset your bowels, how they work.

    00:03:17And if it's played just right, haarp can be tuned to a point where it makes the recipient soparanoid, they begin to have visions, like nightmares.

    00:03:28 >> So, haarp is purely a research facility?

    00:03:30 >> Yes.

    00:03:31 >> So, then, what is the military doing there?

    00:03:34 Why is there so much military investment?

    00:03:37>> Well, as -- basically, the military was involved because there was a -- let me back up andsay the location of haarp was actually picked because that property actually belonged to theu.s. air force, I believe.

    00:03:50And so that site was actually a suitable location for that, and I believe that's one of thereasons for the military's involvement in the haarp program.

    00:03:59 >> I'm not allowed to know, but, you know, it is what it is.

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    00:04:06 >> Narrator: It's clear the researchers want to avoid discussing the military uses of haarp.

    00:04:12 Their hesitations cause the team to wonder.

    00:04:16 >> So, what are therealdangers of haarp?

    00:04:19>> Picture a ground wire, like a long extension cord, being stretched from the earth up to theionosphere, creating an ion path.

    00:04:27If the power that's in the ionosphere discharged back down to the ground, it would be alightning bolt of devastating proportions.

    00:04:38 >> What would that mean exactly?

    00:04:40 helens volcanoes going off every second for a minute.

    00:04:50 >> So, the effects could be catastrophic.

    00:04:53 >> Absolutely.

    00:04:53>> So, in your expert opinion, do you think that this is a machine that actually should bestopped because it's just too dangerous?

    00:05:01 >> I think the machine should shut off.

    00:05:03 It's too risky to use.

    00:05:10 >> Ventura: Well, people, i talked to alex.

    00:05:13And he was up in alaska and talked to this person up the, and apparently, it's a train tonowhere.

    00:05:18 He says it's not a big story.

    00:05:19 >> No way, gov agnew was convinced that there's more to this.

    00:05:22 We have to investigate further.

    00:05:24 >> Ventura: Then, who else do we go see?

    00:05:26 We got to find someone else, then.

    00:05:28 >> Well, I've got someone else for us to speak to.

    00:05:30 His name's nick begich.00:05:31 He's also up in alaska.

    00:05:32Now, he's written a lot about haarp, and he's probably one of the most informed people outthere.

    00:05:37 There's only one problem.

    00:05:38 >> Ventura: And that is?

    00:05:39 >> He'll only speak to you.

    00:05:41 >> Ventura: Why just me?

    00:05:42 >> His brother's a senator, and he trusts you.

    00:05:44 >> Ventura: His brother's au.s.

    00:05:46 Senator?

    00:05:47 >> Yeah.

    00:05:47 >> Ventura: Mike, get ahold of alex and tell him we're on our way.

    00:05:51 I guess we're coming to alaska.

    00:05:55 >> Narrator: Coming up, jesse ventura approaches the super weapon from the sky.

    00:06:01 >> Ventura: There it is.

    00:06:03 Wow!

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    00:06:03 >> Narrator: Then, an explosive ..

    00:06:06 >> Ventura: When I get denied something, I do the opposite of getting intimidated.

    00:06:10 I get angry.

    00:06:11 >> Narrator: And later, jesse goes all-in and gets a hard hit of haarp's mind-bending power.

    00:06:17 >> Ventura: Wow!

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    00:10:20>> Narrator: Jesse ventura is in alaska to investigate the mysterious military facility knownas haarp.

    00:10:28

    The governor's conspiracy team has found evidence that haarp's complex of massive

    transmitters is a trigger for a super weapon ..

    00:10:38 Tampering with nature -- what experts call a formula for global terrorism.

    00:10:44 >> Ventura: We've heard from enough experts.

    00:10:47 Now it's time to see for ourselves.

    00:10:58>> Narrator: Jesse ventura lifts off from anchorage and points the way toward a remoteregion of southeastern alaska.

    00:11:07 They're headed to haarp.

    00:11:12 They fly across miles of ..

    00:11:16 Deeper and deeper into the middle of nowhere.

    00:11:25 ..ver the ridge...00:11:30 It comes into view.

    00:12:09 180 Towers spread out over 35 ..

    00:12:14 This is haarp.

    00:12:32These are the antennas that the ionosphere, heats it up, and turns the heric layer into thebiggest antenna of all.

    00:13:02 The governor orders the chopper down at haarp's front door.

    00:13:16 >> Ventura: Now, youdid formally call them to see if we could get a tour of this place?

    00:13:20 Bsolutely.

    00:13:22 >> result?

    00:13:23 >> They turned us down.

    00:13:24 We tried three different times.

    00:13:26Ree times you called here to see if we could get a tour of this place, and they turned calledtir for directly, " >> Ventura: Okay.

    00:13:36 >> Narrator: They're now at the gates of haarp.

    00:13:39 >> Ventura: Well, let's see if there's another way we can get in here.

    00:13:42 It looks like a call box right here.

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    00:13:47 [ Beep ] >> they don't want to have to talk to you.

    00:13:56 >> Ventura: They're up there.

    00:14:00 It's simply they're not gonna respond.

    00:14:02 Lookit.

    00:14:03 Now it d they've shut it down.

    00:14:08 >> Narrator: Jesse ventura is happy to wait them out.00:14:19 Finally, the ones inside give in.

    00:14:29The haarp representative is dressed like a civilian, he introduces himself as a manager, hesays he doe ..

    00:14:38 And he delivers the message -- jesse ventura is not welcome at haarp.

    00:15:07 >> Ventura: So you're telling me if I got rid of the cameras, you'd take me inside?

    00:15:15 >> Narrator: The man suggests the governor come back on the official visiting day.

    00:15:22 >> We went through the proper channels.

    00:15:24 We requested.

    00:15:29 H is once every two years.

    00:15:33 >> Narrator:!

    00:15:35 Those are close to fighting words.

    00:15:40 >> Ventura: Well, we did, and we got stonewalled.

    00:15:43 And this is strictly a research facility.

    00:15:45Clearly, there's something going on here that they don't want people to know about.come on,man.

    00:15:53 I'm a navy seal.

    00:15:54The military don't do things unless it has a military purpose, and a military purpose isdestruction and waging war.

    00:16:01 >> Narrator: It's a stalemate.00:16:03 Or is it?

    00:16:09 >> Ventura: When I get denied something, I do the opposite of getting intimidated.

    00:16:13 I get angry.

    00:16:14 >> Narrator: Jesse is about to walk right on through, when ..

    00:16:17 >> Hold on a second, guys.

    00:16:19 I got a problem here.

    00:16:20 >> We're getting interference.

    00:16:22 >> Narrator:..The camera equipment begins to go haywire.

    00:16:28 Something is interfering with the audio and video.00:16:31 >> Ventura: This is more than unclassified.

    00:16:34That's [bleep] >> Narra Finds new mysteries and new conspiracy theories from haarp'sneighbors.

    00:16:43>> He said, "we fired that damn thing up up there, and we fried " >> Narrator: Then he findsout that haarp mind control is not as farfetched as it seems.

    00:16:53 >> Ventura: Crank it up.

    00:16:54 I want to try it.

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    00:19:54>> Narrator: Jesse ventura and his team made it as far as the front gates of the haarpcomplex in the alaskan wilderness.

    00:20:05 >> Ventura: When I get denied something, I do the opposite of getting intimidated.

    00:20:09 I get angry.

    00:20:10>> Narrator: The standoff was reaching a boiling point when some unknown force played

    havoc with their crew's video and audio gear.00:20:16 >> Hold on a second, guys.

    00:20:17 I got a problem here.

    00:20:18 >> We're getting interference.

    00:20:21 >> Ventura: This is more than unclassified.

    00:20:23 That's [bleep] >> Narrator: Jes futile.

    00:20:28 >> Ventura: I'll tell you -- the it's not going the other way.

    00:20:41 It's goingthatway --toward sinister, not against it.

    00:20:47The other thing that bugs me about this -- you notice there were double security gates there

    -- not one, but two.00:20:55 And it's out in the middle of nowhere, alaska, and it's an and it has that type of security, huh?

    00:21:05 That's interesting.

    00:21:08>> Narrator: While the governor, braverman, and alex plan their next move, another memberof the find in another corner of the country.

    00:21:19June is in texas, chasing the intriguing story of haarp's inventor -- a man who became aleading critic of the haarp project.

    00:21:28 Bernard eastlund died two years ago, but his son robert is alive and talking.

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    00:21:37>> Back in about 1983, my father was working on a number of ideas, including the use ofthe gas to create a missile shield for the united states in case of a soviet attack.

    00:21:49 >> And so, when first designed it, it was really in terms of t?

    00:21:55 >> It was at the height of the cold war -- 1983, 1984, ronald reagan in the white house.

    00:22:01The project my father was working on was everything from radar, over-the-horizon radar,knocking out satellite communications, a missile-defense shield.

    00:22:18 And then there's everyone's favorite -- weather control.

    00:22:22The idea was by heating up the atmosphere, you could move the jet stream, bringing rain toplaces or taking rain away from places that were possibly RECEIVING TOO MUCHRAIN.r: Robert says his father never intended for haarp to be used as an offensive weapon.

    00:22:40 >> It would have been for good.

    00:22:42 You have ethiopia -- no rain.

    00:22:43 " you have too much rain -- flooding in one place.

    00:22:48"Let's perturb the jet stream and see if we can halt whatever " >> he was very proud of hisinvention.

    00:22:55 >> He was very proud.00:22:56 >> Narrator: But then the military saw the potential and bought up the plans.

    00:23:02 >> Your fatherdidfeel that the military were maybe going too far, which is why he left, no?

    00:23:07 >> Well, right.

    00:23:08 I mean, so, here he is.

    00:23:09

    He's trying to come up with something to defend the united states and better mankind, andthey're saying, "well, maybe now we have a weapon -- basically a weapon -- " >> Narrator:Back in alaska, jesse ventura heads into the wilderness to seek out the people who live inhaarp's shadow.

    00:23:34 First up is the village of glennallen.

    00:23:37 Haarp helps fund its community college, but even here, 30 miles away, no one's really surewhat goes on at haarp.

    00:23:46 >> Ventura: Could this be a weapon of some sort?

    00:23:48 >> Well, I've certainly heard ourse, if it's military, it's got military applications.

    00:23:54 I have no doubt about that.

    00:23:56 It's funded, it's a big project, it's cost a lot of money.

    00:24:00 >> Ventura: Do you think they're being totally forthcoming with you?

    00:24:03 >> Meaning the scientists and the people that work up there -- ..

    00:24:06 >> Ventura: Well, no, not necessarily them.

    00:24:08 ..But the military ..

    00:24:11Application and haarp in general -- do you think that they're being fully aboveboard with thelocals?

    00:24:18 >> I think that it's a mystery.

    00:24:23 >> Narrator: Toward the village that's haarp's closest neighbor.

    00:24:28He's been warned that folks there don't like strangers, so he hired a private eye fromanchorage.

    00:24:33 She went on ahead for some advanced recon.

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    00:24:40 The private eye does not want her face seen by anyone connected to haarp.

    00:24:45 She says she fears harassment -- or worse.

    00:24:47 >> Ventura: Thanks for meeting me here.

    00:24:49 >> No problem.

    00:24:50 >> Ventura: What do t for me?

    00:24:52 >> There's definitely some things that are going on there in relation to haarp.00:24:56 >> Ventura: Really?

    00:24:57 Tell me more.

    00:24:57>> You know, everybody was friendly and everybody was talkative until you brought up thetopic of haarp.

    00:25:02 And then their personality changed.

    00:25:04 Eir demeanor changed.

    00:25:05 >> Ventura: Really?

    00:25:06 >> I've gone to villages all over the state of alaska and eerie, I guess you could say.

    00:25:13 It was an eerie feeling there.

    00:25:14 >> Ventura: Something we definitely need to look into, then.

    00:25:20 Well, the p.i. gave us the list.

    00:25:21 Now let's hope people will talk to us.

    00:25:23 >> The private investigator said they would.

    00:25:25 >> Ventura: Yeah, well, that could be a different story once cameras are on them.

    00:25:31 >> Narrator: The governor and his adviser arrive in gakona -- population 215.

    00:25:38 People willing to talk about haarp -- zero.

    00:25:42 >> Ventura: We're sure not being very successful, are we?

    00:25:45 >> Narrator: But persistence pays off.

    00:25:48 >> Okay. I found some people.

    00:25:49 They're inside, and they'll talk about haarp.

    00:25:51 >> Ventura: For real?

    00:25:52 >> Yeah.

    00:25:52 >> Ventura: Handcuff them so they can't get away.

    00:25:54 >> Let's go.

    00:25:56 Right.

    00:26:01 >> Narrator: Jesse meets the one person who's bound to know everyone's business.

    00:26:05 She runs the coffee shop and trading post.

    00:26:08 >> Ventura: Now, you've been here since the beginning.00:26:11 What do you think they're doing down there?

    00:26:14 >> They tell us, "we're doing research on haarp.

    00:26:16 We're up here studying the " you don't study the northern lights for 25 years.

    00:26:20 Come on.

    00:26:23 >> Ventura: So, you're very suspicious of this place.

    00:26:25 >> Oh, of course.

    00:26:26 I mean, the northern lights, they'd be very, very up front, they'd be telling people all the time

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    what they're doing, what they're finding.

    00:26:34 I, as an american, resent being >> Ventura: You're damn right.

    00:26:39 I agree.

    00:26:40 >> And if it's def it's for defense.

    00:26:42 >> Ventura: Yeah.

    00:26:43 >> You know, be truthful with us.00:26:45 We're not stupid.

    00:26:46>> Ventura: We've tried to talk to a lot of the people around here about haarp, and they justclam up.

    00:26:51 They don't want to talk.

    00:26:53 Why do you think that is?

    00:26:54>> Well, I think people live out here because they're real private, and there was that rumorabout mind control a few years ago, and I think people are real nervous don't -- it's a biggovernment entity.

    00:27:07 They don't want to cross them.

    00:27:09 >> Narrator: Everyone else in gakona decides to stay behind closed doors while thestrangers ..

    00:27:16 Everyone but one man.

    00:27:18>> My personal feeling -- i think it's one of the most top-secret things there is in statesgovernment.

    00:27:23 >> Ventura: Really?

    00:27:24 >> Narrator: Fred has lived in gakona for more than 40 years.

    00:27:28 Haarp? he helped pave the way.

    00:27:32 >> Ventura: So you were here, and you've watched this entire, whole haarp thing take place?

    00:27:36 >> I worked on building the first road, worked on part of the building.

    00:27:39 At first, they were setting up a coal generator.

    00:27:42 And I plowed snow up there.

    00:27:44 I got a snowplow bid, and i plowed snow, I think, for three or four winters.

    00:27:48 When I first started plowing snow, they didn't have any security cameras or nothing.

    00:27:52 I'd go up there, and I'd be the only guy on the plantation.

    00:27:58But then as time went on, they got more security, more security, and more stricter, morestricter.

    00:28:03>> Ventura: Why would they add more security if it was just the simple thing that theyinitially said they were doing?

    00:28:08 >> I've always thought that that facility had the capability of mind control.00:28:15 Have you ever heard of that mind control that the russians use on their prisoners?

    00:28:18 >> Ventura: Yeah.

    00:28:19 >> They set out a certain frequency to make people act the way they want.

    00:28:24 They can make them docile or they make them schizophrenic or whatever.

    00:28:28 And that's the mind control that I think they have the capability up there.

    00:28:34 >> Ventura: Really?

    00:28:35 Interesting.

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    00:28:36 >> And there used to be a restaurant caf over here, a restaurant hotel over here.

    00:28:40And I was sitting in there one morning, having a cup of coffee, and there was four guyssitting at a booth over there, and i could hear them talking.

    00:28:47 They were talking about mind control.

    00:28:49Three of them got up and left, and the fourth guy come over there to get his coffee cup filledup, and I said, "i'm not eavesdropping, but I couldn't help hear you guys talk about " and he

    sat down there and told me, "oh, yeah.

    00:29:01 Mind control -- I've been in " and he was out here and spent about a month up at haarp.

    00:29:09 I think they try to brainwash the people.

    00:29:11 I don't know if they do it every year, but several times, they've had these open houses.

    00:29:15 They let people go up there, and they give them a cup of coffee and a cookie.

    00:29:18 And everybody that goes up and gets a coffee and cookie, "oh, yeah.

    00:29:21 " you know, I think that's all just a smoke screen.

    00:29:28 I'll tell you one other thing that happened.

    00:29:30 I was just down here at the local bar, having a beer one night.

    00:29:35 And I think it was 10 or a dozen electricians come out there and was gonna be there for twoweeks.

    00:29:39 And that one guy come in, and i don't remember his name now, but I recognized him.

    00:29:42 I said, "hey, man.

    00:29:43" he said, "we fired that damn thing up up there, and we fried " >> Ventura: Wait, wait, wait-- time-out.

    00:29:49 What does "fry a guy" mean?

    00:29:50 >> That means they turned the antenna on, a guy was underneath it, and they killed him.

    00:29:58 >> Narrator:..

    00:30:02 Jesse meets the man who knows more about haarp than anyone in alaska.

    00:30:06 >> Ventura: begich, i presume.

    00:30:08 >> Narrator: Then he gets zapped with haarp-style mind control.

    00:30:13 >> Ventura: Wow!

    00:30:14 It seemed like right here.

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    00:33:54 Clorox 2. find itnext to the clorox bleach.00:34:08 >> Ventura: Well, we're out here in the wilderlands of alaska.

    00:34:13 We're going to meet a begich, who seems to know a great deal about haarp.

    00:34:18 He's kind of made it his life's ambition as a second career or whatever.

    00:34:23 And this guy is probably the biggest authority on haarp that we're ever gonna find.

    00:34:31 begich, find out what he knows.

    00:34:38 >> Governor ventura.

    00:34:39 >> Ventura: begich, i presume.

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    00:34:41 >> [ Laughing ] YES, INDEED.

    00:34:42 Come on in.

    00:34:43 >> Ventura: Thank you.

    00:34:44 Appreciate it.

    00:34:47>> Narrator: nick begich is a prominent alaskan, a well-respected author and activist, son ofa u.s.

    00:34:53 Congressman, brother of u.s.

    00:34:56 Senator mark begich.

    00:34:57 He's been studying and investigating haarp for the past 15 years.

    00:35:01 >> Ventura: Now, I'm gonna be honest.

    00:35:02You know, up until about two weeks ago, I'd never even heard of haarp, and I find it a bitdisturbing.

    00:35:09 Let's get to the nitty-gritty on this.

    00:35:12 What type of offensive weapon does haarp have the potential to be?

    00:35:16 >> Let's kind of gradate what does it do, 'cause it does a lot of different things.

    00:35:21 Not only, you know, can they manipulate weather, but the idea of knocking aircraft out of thesky and leaving no residual damage.

    00:35:27 I mean, you could wage wars and nobody would ever know it.

    00:35:29 If you crank it high enough, you could burn things.

    00:35:31>> Ventura: So, you're saying that if they crank this up, they could literally knock airplanesout of the air.

    00:35:36 >> That's correct.

    00:35:37 And you could also use it to knock out a satellite.

    00:35:39 Now, think about that.

    00:35:40 You have plausible deniability.00:35:42

    The satellite goes down, all your communications go down, your ability to conductcommerce goes down -- these are things that haarp can do.

    00:35:49 And we're not alone anymore.

    00:35:50Chinese are pursuing this technology, russians are pursuing this technology, and others arepursuing this technology today.

    00:36:00 >> Ventura: We got possible weather manipulation through the whole world.

    00:36:04 >> Right.

    00:36:05 >> Ventura: Now, could it cause hurricanes and earthquakes?

    00:36:08 >> Well, that's very possible.

    00:36:10 Many scientists believe this.00:36:14 >> Ventura: What you're saying we could actually, with haarp, attack them with the weather?

    00:36:21

    >> Right and there's actually a treaty that goes back to 1977 that the and the soviets and 60other countries signed, saying we wouldn't use what they called "environmentalmanipulation," which was things like creating tidal waves, earthquakes, weathermodifications as weapons of war.

    00:36:34 >> Ventura: Then what you're saying to me point-blank is we quite potentially could be >>well, the rule is you can do that's the way the treaty reads.

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    00:36:46>> Narrator: All that may be dangerous enough, but nick begich says he's most worriedabout haarp's ability to interfere with you >> obviously, they deny it, but what we producedwas their own documents.

    00:37:00 You know, these are air force, navy, military documents that actually lay this out.

    00:37:05 It's their own words, not our words.

    00:37:08 >> Ventura: You know, doctor -- -- what you're saying to I mean, it's as simple as that.

    00:37:15 >> Yeah, it is.

    00:37:16>> Ventura: I mean, you're talking about something that can be done with mind control towhere you can affect people's minds and they don't even know it.

    00:37:25 >> That's correct.

    00:37:26 >> Ventura: And this is masses of people.

    00:37:28 >> Right.

    00:37:28>> Ventura: They can do it at a level where you could be walking down the street, and youcould get infiltrated with these sound waves, and you wouldn't even know that they werehitting you?

    00:37:37 >> That's right.00:37:38 And there's two different ways.

    00:37:39 One would be transferring voice information.

    00:37:41And the other would be just affecting you on an emotional level, which is the much simpler,which is easily accomplished by haarp.

    00:37:47The human body and the mind is able to pick a signal out, like going through the radiostation.

    00:37:52 You're dialinghe station.

    00:37:53 You get all the static.

    00:37:54 As soon as you get resonance, harmony between the transmittera nice, clear signal.

    00:37:59 The same is true in terms of the human chemistry, irms of our chemistry, our cell structure,body organs, or the brain.

    00:38:07>> Narrator: Jesse ventura has his doubts that the haarp antennas can broadcast radio wavesthat influence people's thoughts.

    00:38:15 But nick begich is prepared for the skeptics.

    00:38:18 >> Now, this is a device that friends of mine in germany designed.

    00:38:22And we had demonstrated in the ropean parliament, in an open hearing, a cruder version, butit made our point.

    00:38:28 This is just a standard cd player.

    00:38:31 And what these are is piezoelectric transducers.

    00:38:34And in simple language, they carry a signal that can enter the nervous system so that you canget that proverbial voice in the head.

    00:38:42And so, by activating this, placing these electrodes, you know, on the surface of the skin,blocking the ears tightly, you'll hear the music just as if your ears were playing it, but theears have nothing to do with it.

    00:38:52 The eighth cranial nerve, the part that connects to the brain, has nothing to do with it.

    00:38:56 >> Ventura: Is that working right now?

    00:38:58 >> Yeah, we can get it cranked up here so you can try it out.

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    00:39:00 >> Ventura: Crank it up.

    00:39:01 I want to try it.

    00:39:03So, in other words, I can touch this to my neck and hear it without my ears hearing it, and noone else in the room will hear it?

    00:39:09 >> That is correct.

    00:39:10 I want you to block your ears really tightly so you can't hear it.

    00:39:16 >> Narrator: Still ahead, haarp invaventura's brain -- the incredible conclusion.

    00:39:23 >> Ventura: Wow!

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    00:43:08 >> I want you to block your ears really tightly so you can't hear it.

    00:43:18>> Narrator: Jesse ventura was skeptical about claims that the haarp antennas in remotealaska have the power to control people's minds, including yours and his.

    00:43:28 nick begich is showing him how the haarp transmitter can send a signal directly to his brain.

    00:43:35 >> Ventura: Wow!

    00:43:36 >> So, what did you hear?

    00:43:38>> Ventura: Well, I heard music, but it's strange because i listened to try to figure out where

    the music was coming from, and it seemed like right here.00:43:46

    >> Ventura: It sounded like i was hearing it almost through the top of my head or myforehead.

    00:43:51 >> Right.

    00:43:55With haarp, when you start to look at this signal, not just transferring sound information, butjust to affect the brain with emotional-state changes, it's s accomplished.

    00:44:06 >> Ventura: So, we got mind control?

    00:44:08 >> Absolutely.

    00:44:09In fact, if you go back HISTORICALLY, BACK TO THE 1960s When all of this work reallystarted -- the idea of mind-control experiments -- one of the guys that the new timesreported

    was one of those experimental subjects was the unabomber.00:44:21 And if you remember, he attacked people who were involved in technology.

    00:44:24Now, was that the result of the military admits over 8,000 servicemen alone were used inthese experiments.

    00:44:34 It's technology relatively simple.

    00:44:36 You can get the components off the shelf.

    00:44:38 You just have to have the technical knowledge to understand how to dial it in just likedialing in that radio station we were talking awhile back.

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    00:44:46In between, it's static, but when you get resonance between that transmitter and receiver,things start to happen.

    00:44:51 And in the earth, things start to happen.

    00:44:53 Where you already have something unstable, you can trigger that earthquake.

    00:44:57Terrorists possess technologies that could create earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, modifyweather.

    00:45:02 >> Ventura: Terrorists?

    00:45:03 >> Terrorists.

    00:45:04 It's not just about weather modification.

    00:45:06 These guys can knock aircraft out of the sky.

    00:45:09 They can disable satellites, knock them literally into neutral where they can't even work.

    00:45:13This is the kind of thing that -- you can wage war without even knowing the war's beenwaged.

    00:45:19Covert war is not something that's new to this country, but with this technological twist, itthrows a whole new flavor on all of it.

    00:45:26 >> Ventura: So, in layman's terms, you're almost talking about an invisible death ray.00:45:30 >> Actually, the guy who originated the death-ray concept was a guy named nikola tesla.

    00:45:34 He's a guy that developed a.c.

    00:45:36 Current that runs all of our households today.

    00:45:38But he had a concept on the death ray that was presented to the government just beforeworld war ii.

    00:45:43 Those papers are cited in bernard eastlund's patents.

    00:45:47 Thisisthe death ray.

    00:45:53 >> Narrator: Jesse ventura and his team head home from alaska.

    00:45:57The things they saw, the people they met, the information they gathered leave themconvinced that haarp is much more than the government would have us believe.

    00:46:18>> Ventura: I went into this investigation knowing full well that our military keeps secrets,but in the case of haarp, they're playing with fire.

    00:46:27 It's one thing to build a missile-defense system.

    00:46:30 It's another to interfere with nature.

    00:46:33 We saw how easy it is to move clouds around, to trigger storms, floods, ecoterrorism.

    00:46:40 And I learned that radio waves reallycanget inside your head.

    00:46:45 They got inside mine.

    00:46:47 Bottom line -- I went up to the gates of the haarp facility, and they wouldn't let me in.

    00:46:52 An operation that's run by the navy doesn't shut out a former navy seal unless they've gotsomething to hide.

    00:47:00 I'm jesse ventura.

    00:47:02 " Ventura:..

    00:47:39 ..

    00:47:40 ..

    00:47:41 ..

    00:47:45 You think you know the whole story?

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    00:47:48 Think again.

    00:47:51 ..

    00:47:53 ..

    00:47:56 A fighter.

    00:47:58 I've heard things that'll blow your mind, and now I think it's timeyouget the whole story.

    00:48:04 >> Nar NOW...

    00:48:06The government's real-life island of horror -- a secret biowarfare lab a stone's throw fromnew york city and boston.

    00:48:14 >> If it wasn't so close to the east coast, they ought to nuke it.

    00:48:17>> Narrator: facility created by former nazi scientists doing animal research that could wipeout the human ..

    00:48:26 And evidence that damage is alrealready being done.

    00:48:30 >> A mutatedhumanbody?

    00:48:32 >>Hat is correct.

    00:48:32 >> Narrator: Jesse ventura takes to the sea to expose the government's deadliest secret.

    00:48:40 >> Ventura: We got the co >> Narrator: And he discovers an even larger, more lethalconspiracy -- hundreds of germ labs in a ring of fire engulfing the nation.

    00:48:50>> Ventura: This is something that could affect someone from maine to california, fromalaska to florida.

    00:48:55>> Narrator: Mutant animals, mutated humans, a conspiracy of germs, disease, greed, and atarget for terroris.

    00:49:04 >> It's in the range finder of al-qaeda.

    00:49:08 It's a biological sitting duck.

    00:49:10 >> Narrator: Plum island and the bioterror conspiracy.

    00:49:14 >> Ventura: I'm jesse ventura, " we got these guys paralleling us.

    00:49:26 We got the coast guard behind us.

    00:49:29 What the hell?

    00:49:30 >> Narrator: Jesse ventura is crashing through dangerous waters.

    00:49:34 He's headed for plum island, a top-secret government germ lab off the shore of new york.

    00:49:39 But homelaity has radioed word.

    00:49:42 They want him stopped.

    00:49:44 >> Ventura: Oh, he's paralleling us.

    00:49:45 There's no doubt about it.

    00:49:47 >> Narrator: The governor has evidence that plum island is a biowarfare time bomb.

    00:49:54 Only now, the clock is ticking forhim.

    00:49:57 >> Ventura: I used to be a governor.

    00:49:59 What do they think I am -- a [bleep] terrorist?

    00:50:05 It was a raid out of my navy frogman days.

    00:50:09 Only this time, I didn't have a gun or a knife.

    00:50:13 But from what I'd already found, they probably wouldn't be much help anyway.

    00:50:19 This all started when I got a call from a guy named kenneth king.

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    00:50:24 >> He's an expert on biowarfare, the use of viruses and germs as weapons.

    00:50:30 He said we're facing a major bio-weapons threat, and not from any terror group.

    00:50:35Since 9/11, the government's been opening germ labs all over the country, supposedlydeveloping drugs and vaccines to protect us against bioterror.

    00:50:46 But he claimed these labs,our labs, could kill us all.

    00:50:51 >> There were about 200 high-containment germ-lab facilities in 2001.

    00:50:57 There are now at least 1,356, plus many more off the books.

    00:51:02You now have a kind of military academic industrial complex that is devoted to hyping thefear of bioterror so that they will continue to get the funds.

    00:51:11 >> Ventura: Let me ask you this -- what do these places actually do?

    00:51:14 >> A whole bunch of things -- some of it very reckless.

    00:51:17 We have a clear indication that accidents are occurring regularly.

    00:51:21They're being concealed from the public because the bio-defense industry does not want theamerican public to become concerned about their activity.

    00:51:30>> Ventura: We know other countries and terror groups are ready to use bio weapons against

    us.00:51:36 So you'd figure defense research would be a good thing.

    00:51:40 Kenneth king warned that it's not.

    00:51:43>> They are taking the approach that a terrorist might create some new pathogen, so we'll goahead and do it ourselves to see if it's possible to do it.

    00:51:51 And then once we've done it, maybe we can dream up a defense against it.

    00:51:55>> Ventura: And what you're telling me is, they're not taking the proper precautions at thesefacilities, that a risk could be run, that some of this bio stuff could get loose?

    00:52:04 >> They're refusing to acknowledge the possibility that this stuff could get loose.

    00:52:09

    >> Ventura: These things seem out of control, and they're all a bunch of outlaw cowboys,

    each and every facility.00:52:15 >> Yes. that's what I think.

    00:52:16>> Ventura: This is something that could affect someone from maine to california, fromalaska to florida.

    00:52:22 >> Absolutely.

    00:52:23>> Ventura: How much involvement in these labs does the department of homeland securityhave now?

    00:52:28 >> Well, right now, they are trying to build a couple of the big labs themselves.

    00:52:33 And they were gonna develop animal diseases that spread between animals and human.

    00:52:37Well, after they started getting some flak, they posted this little "diseases of interest" list thattook off most of the scary bio-weapons agents.

    00:52:46 >> Ventura: Are they lying?

    00:52:47 >> I think so, yes.

    00:52:48 >> Ventura: Really?

    00:52:48So the department of homeland security is being untruthful with the american public in whatthey're doing?

    00:52:53 >> That's what I think.

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    00:52:54

    >> Ventura: Kenneth king spelled out the conspiracy -- bio-weapons research masqueradingas animal research, germs and viruses that are supposedly restricted to animals crossing overto humans, and the labs themselves letting all kinds of germs and bio weapons escape intothe air, into your neighborhood.

    00:53:17>> [ Shouting indistinctly ] >> Ventura: In your opinion, what's the worst-case scenario weface?

    00:53:23 >> The worst-case scenario is that virus that they created could get out of the lab and startthat pandemic that we've all been worrying about.

    00:53:31 >> Ventura: Sounds like we've dodged the bullet so far, but luck can't hold out forever.

    00:53:37 We learned that on 9/11.

    00:53:40 If I choose to investigate this, where would you recommend I go?

    00:53:43 >> I certainly would suggest that you look into the facility at plum island.

    00:53:47>> Ventura: Plum island -- it's about 2 miles off the northeast coast of long island, new york,70 miles from new york city, across the sound from connecticut, not too far from boston.

    00:54:02Since 1954, home of the plum island animal disease center, started by the army and now runby homeland security.

    00:54:12 And if kenneth king is right, what's going on there will make your hair stand on end.

    00:54:18 >> They always claim that they didn't do anything in the biological-weapons area.

    00:54:22Although, the government accountability office indicated in a report in 2003 that they weredoing a project for the department of defense to try to manipulate camelpox so it would belike smallpox.

    00:54:34 I would call that bio-weapons research.

    00:54:40>> Ventura: Kenneth king told me about this place called plum island, one of the mostdangerous biolabs in the country.

    00:54:47>> Yeah, and get ready for this -- they're moving it, and they're upgrading it to an even moredangerous level.

    00:54:53 >> They're moving it?

    00:54:54 >> Yeah.

    00:54:54 >> To where?

    00:54:55 >> To kansas, the heart of cattle country.

    00:54:57 >> Ventura: Are you kidding me?

    00:54:59They're gonna move a biolab into the central part of the country, where the majority of ourfood supply comes from?

    00:55:05 >> Come on, guys, aren't we overreacting a little bit here?

    00:55:07 >> Actually, no, alex.

    00:55:08 There have been a number of outbreaks on plum island.00:55:11 >> Ventura: Can we positively say something has gotten off of this island?

    00:55:15 >> Well, there's this.

    00:55:18 >> Ventura: What in the hell is that?

    00:55:23 >> What is that -- a shaved dog?

    00:55:24 >> They call it the montauk monster.

    00:55:27 It was found washed along the shores of long island a couple of summers ago.

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    00:55:31 And, apparently, there are at least two others.

    00:55:34 >> I don't know.

    00:55:35 Maybe it's a raccoon?

    00:55:37 >> Ventura: That interests me enough right there.

    00:55:40 Let's get focused.

    00:55:41 Let's go out and find out what goes on at plum island.00:55:46 The investigation was under way.

    00:55:48 June was following up on the kansas lead.

    00:55:51She'd see where the feds want to move the plum island lab and make it even more of adanger.

    00:55:58 Alex and I were headed to the airport.

    00:56:00 >> So, montauk monster, huh?

    00:56:02>> Ventura: I've never seen anythingeverthat looked like that thing that we saw in thepicture.

    00:56:08 We were going to new york.

    00:56:10 He'd hit the beach and find out more about this montauk monster.

    00:56:15 Me?

    00:56:15 I knew that eventually I'd be making an assault on plum island.

    00:56:22 >> Narrator:..

    00:56:23 The nazi scientist behind the plum island experiments.

    00:56:27 >> Traub was the godfather of plum island.

    00:56:30 >> Narrator:..

    00:56:31 Monsters and mutants.

    00:56:33 Plum island is blamed for bizarre creatures washing up on shore.

    00:56:38 >>Humanbody?00:56:39 >> Human body, with elongated fingers.

    00:56:41 >> Narrator:..

    00:56:42 Jesse ventura goes navy seal on the place and storms plum island by sea.

    00:56:47 >> Ventura: Seals don't get stopped.

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    00:57:41 web.00:57:42 Is it real?

    00:57:43 No. it's just decorations.

    00:57:45 I'm going to make the biggest pumpkin of all.

    00:57:48 The biggest pumpkin?

    00:57:50

    00:57:51 I need to make a witches hat.

    00:57:53 In case my hatfalls off.

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    00:57:55 ..

    00:57:57 A spike.

    00:57:59 Mamma.

    00:58:00 Oh, that's a good broom.

    00:58:01 [ Female Announcer ] THE BEST TREAT Rice Krispies Childhood is calling.

    00:58:43 >> Narrator: The mysterious plum island off the coast of ..

    00:58:49E site of a government laboratory, where scientists are rumored to be violating the genevaconventions by ting biological weapons.

    00:58:57 Is this a hothouse for catastrophe?

    00:59:00 Jesse ventura's team spreads out to find the truth.

    00:59:04 >> Ventura: I was driving across long island to get some background on the place.

    00:59:09Alex piper was already on the beach, following up eports that some weird animal made itfrom plum island to the mainland.

    00:59:20 >> The montauk monster is a