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U.S. Department of De fe nse Off ice o f the Assist ant Se cretary of Defense (Public Aff airs) News Tra nscript On the Web: http://w ww .de fense .go v/Transcrip ts/Transcrip t.aspx?Transcrip tID=674 Media contact: +1 (703) 697-5131/697-5132 Public contact: http://www.defense.gov/landing/comment.aspx or +1 (703) 428- 0711 +1 Pre sent er: Secre t ary of Defense Wi lliam S. Cohe n April 28, 19 97 8:4 5 AM EDT DoD News Briefing: Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen Cohen's keynote address at the Conference on Terr orism , Weapons o f Mass Destruct ion, and U.S. Strat egy at the Georgia Center, Mahler Audit orium, University o f Georgia,  Athe ns, Ga. The event is part o f the Sam Nunn Po licy Forum being hos ted by the University of Geo rgia. Secr etary Cohen is joined by Sen. Sam Nunn and Sen. Richard G. Lugar. ] Secret ary Cohen: Senator Nunn, thank you very much. As Senator Nunn has indicated, he and I have worked for m any years together , along with Senator Lugar . The two o f these gentlemen I feel are per haps the mo st courageous and visio nary to have served in the Senate. They were larg ely respons ible, of course, for ado pting the so-called Nunn/Lugar legislation. I'll comm ent on that lat er during t he course o f the morning, but I've had occasion to meet with a number of Russ ian counterpart s, and as we go through various translations of the comm unications that we're having, the two wo rds they are able to articulate very clearly , they say ' Nunn/Lugar , Nunn/Lugar . So they know exactly what that means, and that means the Coo perativ e Thre'at Reduct ion Act that these two gentlemen were indispens able in s hepherding through the United Stat es Co ngress. It was Nunn/Lugar I that dealt with the reduc tion o f nuclear weapons between the United St ates and the Soviet Union i n terms o f try ing to co me to grips with how we helped the Russians dis mantle hundreds of their nuclear weapo ns, and also helped them w ith their destruc tion o f chemical weapons . But they , of course, have loo ked beyond sim ply that partic ular relationship, which is very impo rtant, but also lo oking to the fut ure that we f ace as far as the rise of terrorism -- both international and dom estic; and finding ways in which the Depart ment of Defense can become invo lved in helping local s tat es and lo cal agencies to deal with the t hreat of t errorism which is quite likely t o increase in the com ing years. It 's a pleasure for m e to be here. Both Senator Nunn and Senator Lugar are clos e friends and I loo k forward to, I think , a very product ive seminar. Once again demons trat ing that although Senator Nunn has left public service in the Senate, h e has no t left pu blic service as far as the nation is co ncerned. It 's a pleas ure for me to be here, Sam. Senator Nunn: Thank you very m uch, Bill. . ..Let me as k if there are any questions for Secretar y of Defense Cohen. Q: The dual containment po licy in Iran and Iraq, do yo u think that's conducive to regio nal stability in that region? And do you think can cause furt her terr oris m in the United St ates? That t ype of co ntainment policy in the Middle Eas t.  A: I t hink Secret ary Albright art iculated our po licy as far as dealing with Iraq, t hat it's clear that we have been unable to strike any kind of a productive relationship with Saddam Hussein, and as s oo n as Saddam Hus sein is no lo nger the he ad of that government, that there's new regime that f ollo ws him, that we will loo k forward t o finding ways in which we could engage them in a much mo re productive fashion, partic ularly aft er they comply with all of the UN s anctions. There's an eagerness on o ur part t o do that . But I t hink as lo ng as  PDFmyURL.com

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U.S. Department of De fe nseOffice o f the Assistant Se cretary of Defense (Public Affairs)

News Transcript

On the Web:

http://www.de fense .go v/Transcrip ts/Transcrip t.aspx?Transcrip tID=674Media contact: +1 (703) 697-5131/697-5132

Public contact:

http://www.defense.gov/landing/comment.aspxor +1 (703) 428- 0711 +1

Present er: Secret ary o f Def ense William S. Cohen April 28, 1997 8:45 AM EDT

DoD News Briefing: Secretary of Defe nse William S. Cohen

Cohen's keynote address at the Conference on Terrorism , Weapons o f Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy at the Georgia Center, Mahler Auditorium, University o f Georgia, Athens, Ga. The event is part o f the Sam Nunn Po licy Forum being hos ted by the University of Geo rgia. Secretary Cohen is joined by Sen. Sam Nunn and Sen. Richard G. Lugar.]

Secretary Cohen: Senator Nunn, thank you very much. As Senator Nunn has indicated, he and I have worked for m any years together, along with Senator Lugar. The two o f these

gentlemen I feel are perhaps the mo st courageous and visio nary to have served in the Senate. They were largely respons ible, of course, for ado pting the so-called Nunn/Lugar legislation.

I'll comm ent on that later during the course o f the morning, but I've had occasion to meet with a number of Russ ian counterparts, and as we go through various translations of thecomm unications that we're having, the two wo rds they are able to articulate very clearly, they say ' Nunn/Lugar, Nunn/Lugar. So they know exactly what that means, and that meansthe Coo perative Thre'at Reduction Act that these two gentlemen were indispens able in s hepherding through the United States Co ngress.

It was Nunn/Lugar I that dealt with the reduction o f nuclear weapons between the United States and the Soviet Union i n terms o f trying to co me to grips with how we helped theRussians dis mantle hundreds of their nuclear weapons, and also helped them with their destruction o f chemical weapons . But they, of course, have loo ked beyond sim ply thatparticular relationship, which is very impo rtant, but also lo oking to the future that we face as far as the rise o f terrorism -- both international and dom estic; and finding ways in whichthe Department of Defense can become invo lved in helping local s tates and lo cal agencies to deal with the threat of terrorism which is quite likely to increase in the com ing years.

It's a pleasure for m e to be here. Both Senator Nunn and Senator Lugar are clos e friends and I loo k forward to, I think, a very productive seminar. Once again demons trating thatalthough Senator Nunn has left public service in the Senate, he has no t left public service as far as the nation is co ncerned.

It's a pleas ure for me to be here, Sam.

Senator Nunn: Thank you very m uch, Bill.

. ..Let me as k if there are any questions for Secretary of Defense Cohen.

Q: The dual containment po licy in Iran and Iraq, do yo u think that's conducive to regio nal stability in that region? And do you think can cause further terroris m in the United States?That type of co ntainment policy in the Middle Eas t.

 A: I think Secretary Albright articulated our po licy as far as dealing with Iraq, that it's clear that we have been unable to strike any kind of a productive relationship with SaddamHussein, and as s oo n as Saddam Hus sein is no lo nger the head of that government, that there's new regime that follo ws him, that we will loo k forward to finding ways in which wecould engage them in a much mo re productive fashion, particularly after they comply with all of the UN s anctions. There's an eagerness on o ur part to do that. But I think as lo ng as

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he remains in o ffice as the head of that state, it's unlikely that we could have anything but the current policy in place, with very little pros pects for relief.

With respect to Iran, I think Iran continues to present a lo ng term threat to the region. They are acquiring and have acquired weapons of mas s des truction, substantial levels o f chemicals and we believe bio logical weapo ns as well. They have made an effort to acquire nuclear capability. So I think that our po licy of dual containment is the right one, and weare going to encourage our allies to s upport that one.

Q: What does it mean that Clinton (inaudible) proliferation?

 A: To the extent that we see the level o f comm unication available today, the Internet and other types of interwoven comm unicative skills and abilities, we're going to see informationcontinue to spread as to how these weapo ns can be, in fact, manufactured in a home- grown labo ratory, as such. So it's a s erious pro blem as far as living in the information agethat people who are acquiring this kind o f information will no t act respo nsibly, but rather act in a terrorist type of fashion.

We've seen by way of example o f the World Trade Center the international aspects o f international terrorism co ming to our ho me territory. We've also s een dom estic terrorism withthe Oklahoma bo mbing. So it's a real threat that's here today. It's likely to intensify in the years to come as mo re and more groups have access to this kind o f information and theability to produce them.

Q: How prepared is the U.S. Government to deal with (inaudible)?

 A: I think we have to really intensify our efforts. That's the reason for the Nunn/Lugar II program. That's the reaso n why it's a lo cal respo nsibility, as such, but the Department of Defense is go ing to be taking the lead as far as s upervising the interagency working groups, and to make the asses sments as to what needs to be do ne. So we're going to i dentifythose 120 cities and work with them very closely to make sure that they can prepare themselves for what is likely to be a threat well into the future.

Q: Let me ask yo u specifically about last week's scare here in Washington, and what we might have learned from ho w prepared we are to deal with that (inaudible), at B'nai Brith.

 A: Well, it points out the nature of the threat. It turned out to be a false threat under the circumstances. But as we've learned in the intelligence com munity, we had s om ething called -- and we have James Wool sey here to perhaps even address this ques tion about phantom m oles . The mere fear that there is a mole wi thin an agency can set off a chain reactionand a hunt for that particular mole which can paralyze the agency for weeks and m onths and years even, in a search. The sam e thing is true about jus t the false s care of a threat of using so me kind of a chemical weapon or a biolo gical one. There are som e reports, for example, that so me countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus,and that would be a very dangerous pheno meno n, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms o f so me s cientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain typesof pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could jus t eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing so me so rt of engineering, so me so rt of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terroris m whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely throughthe use of electromagnetic waves.

So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have tointensify our efforts, and that's why this is so impo rtant.

Q: What is respo nse to (inaudible)?

 A: We hope we will have access to the defector. In fact I was recently in South Korea and talked with various o fficials in So uth Korea. As s oo n as they com plete their owninterrogation of this defector, we will have access to that individual. But much of what he has said to date is reflected in the writings that he prepared last year. This is prior to his

defection. One wo uld not expect a potential defector to be writing about anything other than what the official doctrine or dogma is o f the North Korean government at that time. Heis s aying essentially what we have known fo r a long, lo ng time. Namely, that North Korea poses a very serious threat against South Korea, and po tentially even Japan, by virtue of having the fourth largest army in the world, by having 600,000 or more troops poised within 100 kilometers of Seoul, of possessing many SCUD missiles, also the potential of chemically armed warheads, the attempt to acquire nuclear weapons. So we know they have this po tential, and the question really is going to be what's in their hearts and minds atthis point? Do they intend to try to launch such an attack in the immediate, foreseeable future? That we can only s peculate about, but that's the reason why we are s o well preparedto defend against such an attack to deter it; and to send a mess age that it would be abso lutely an act of suicide for the North Koreans to launch an attack. They could do greatdamage in the sho rt run, but they would be devastated in respons e. So we're ho ping we can find ways to bring them to the bargaining table -- the Party of Four Talks - - and s ee if we can't put them o n a path toward peace ins tead of threatening any kind of devastating attack upon the So uth.

Q: . ..a little bit about the s ituation in (inaudible)?

 A: I reall don't have much more information than has been in the press at this point. The Department has not been called upon to act in this re ard ust et, so I'm no t at libert to

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ll i i i i i ll i i j ligive you any mo re information than you already have.

Q: . ..the Administration's plans to expand NATO to mo re European countries. Is there a terrorism element? Or will expanding NATO help yo u in any way in terms o f (inaudible)? Or is it really unrelated?

 A: I think the two are unrelated. There is a legitimate debate that will take place in terms o f the pace o f enlargement or whether there s hould be enlargement. Secretary Albright and Itestified last week before the Senate Armed Services Co mmittee, and it was a very, I think, productive debate. It's s om ething that Senator Nunn, I think, feels very strongly abo ut aswell. The two o f us, I think, found ours elves o n the Senate Floo r last year saying it was time for the American people to start debating this is sue. So i t's very impo rtant and there willbe legitimate differences o f opinio n, but it's impo rtant that we bring this to the Senate for full debate and dis clos ure, and bring it to the American people. But I doubt if it's related tothe spread of terrorism whatso ever.

Senator Nunn: Thank you very m uch.

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