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Cemo TanamebrZolebo!q u d z e k a c i u n d a g a m o v i d e s !Cven unda vibrZoloT sakuTari momavlisTvis, Cveni Svilebis momavlisTvis!

Cveni samSoblosTvis!

Cveni saqarTvelosTvis!

Cven iseT qveyanas avaSenebT, sadac veRaravin waarTmevs xalxs Tavis arCevans!

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Cven Rirsebas davubrunebT da gavaerTianebT Cvens xalxs!

Cveni qveyana Tavs daaRwevs gaWirvebas!

ra moxdeba da rogor moxdeba, ar vici, magram ivaniSvili mova

xelisuflebaSi, namdvilad mova!

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hgonia ivaniSvili

trocki, rom

TviTon aris

patara stalini

demokratiiT datanjuli

pirdapir vacxadeb, Tu saWiro gaxda,

revoluciaSi uyoymanod miviReb

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gazeTi xelmZRvanelobs Tavisufali presis principiT.SesaZloa, avtoris pozicia ar eTanxmebodes redaqciis azrs.informaciis sizusteze pasuxismgebelia avtori. gasaCivrebaSesaZlebelia masalis gamoqveynebidan erTi kviris vadaSi.

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Cemo Zvirfaso zugdidelebo,dgeba dro mniSvnelovani gadawyveti-

lebisa, rodesac Cven, rogorc maRali

pasuxismgeblobis grZnobis mqone sazo-

gadoebam un-

da ganvsazRv-

roT Cveni qa-

laqisa da ra-

ionis, Cveni

qveynis bedi

da momavali.

gadavwyvitoT,

Sevgwevs Tu

ara unari vib-

rZoloT Rir-

sebisa da si-

marTlis dasa-

cavad.

dRes, rogorc arasdros, gvWirdeba

sibrZne, vaJkacoba da goniereba swori

arCevanis gasakeTeblad. Cven Tavad unda

gadavwyvitoT, Tu ra gzas virCevT: sic-

ruisa da siyalbis, Zalmomreobisa da

abuCad agdebis, uuflebobisa da SiSis,

Tu uflisa da sazogadoebisagan nakarna-

xevi Rirsebisa da simarTlis gzas.

es arCevani dRes keTdeba!

amitomac gadavwyvite mivmarTo da

vTxovo yvela zugdidels, zugdidsa

Tu TbilisSi mcxovreb yvela Cems Ta-

namoqalaqes _ dadeqiT simarTlis mxa-

res! es aucilebelia Cveni qveynis uke-

Tesi momavlisTvis, zugdidelebisTvis,

Cemi megrelebisTvis, WeSmariti qarTve-

lebisTvis. aravin ar unda darCes gul-

grili arCevnebis mimarT. vinaidan dRes

gveZleva SesaZlebloba uari

vTqvaT Zaladobasa da si-

yalbeze da arCevnebis gziT

SevcvaloT xelisufleba.

adamiani xom samyaros

gvirgvinia, romelsac uf-

lisgan eboZa Tavisufali

arCevanis ufleba. Cven val-

debulni varT, es ufleba

gamoviyenoT, davicvaT igi da

aravis mivceT SesaZlebloba

misi xelyofisa.

ukanaskneli 20 wl-is manZilze samegre-lom sxva regionebzemetad ganicada ekonomikurisiduxWire. ZmaTamkvleliomi, usamarTloba. samegre-lo gaRatakebul, daSinebulda daTrgunul regionad ga-daiqca, umuSevari mosaxleo-biTa da damwuxrebuli, usixa-rulo saxeebiT, patimarTa ka-tastrofuli raodenobiT.

dRes politikaSi yofna da sazoga-

doebrivi aqtiuroba qveyanaSi arsebuli

mdgomareobis gaTvaliswinebiT, TiToeu-

li CvenTaganis movaleobaa. es aris Cve-

ni Rirsebis saqme. Cven yvelas erTad

mogviwevs Selaxuli Tavmoyvareobis aR-

dgena da ara mxolod dakarguli teri-

toriebis, aramed Cveni afxazi da osi

Zmebis, debis dabruneba. Kkaci, romelic

dRes ganacxadebs “politika ar mainte-

resebso”, samwuxarod miamitad ityuebs

Tavs. aravis gvaqvs ufleba viyoT gul-

grili politikis, saqarTveloSi mimdi-

nare procesebis da 1 oqtombris arCev-

nebis mimarT. Cveni valdebulebaa gvqon-

des pozicia - dRes aqaa Cveni didgori

da basiani.

rogorc araerTxel yofi-la qveynis istoriaSi, dRe-sac samegrelom unda Seasru-los gamaerTianeblis roli!swori arCevanis gakeTebisSemTxvevaSi, zugdids, zugdi-dis mosaxleobas SeuZliaSecvalos reJimi da cxovre-bis wesi ara marto am qalaq-Si, aramed mTel qveyanaSi.

Cemo zugdidelebo, Zmebo da debo,

erTxelac gavixsenoT vin varT, saidan

movdivarT, rogor gadavrCiT istoriis

ulmobel qartexilebSi. CvenSi kolxe-

bis sisxli Cqefs, im ZirZveli kolxebi-

sa, romlebmac TavianTi vaJkacobiT

dRemde mogviyvanes. gavufrTxildeT da

CaveWidoT yvelafers Rirebuls, rom ar

davikargoT wuTisoflis mzakvrul la-

birinTebSi. davicvaT sisxliTa da of-

liT gadarCenili sanukvari ganZi - “ena,

mamuli, sarwmunoeba”. Cveni eris mfarve-

li angelozi Tavad zeciuri dedofali

- yovladwminda deda RvTismSobelia,

romlis kvarTi zugdidSi inaxeba da

romliTac ase vamayobT zugdidelebi. es

did pasuximgeblobas gvakisrebs!

dRes cvlilebebis droa!amitomac vdgavar koalicia“qarTuli ocnebis”, batonibiZina ivaniSvilisa da irak-li alasanias gverdiT. iq, sa-dac Cemi adgilia _ Cemi zug-didisa da zugdidelebisgverdiT. mjera da vici, romCven erTad gavimarjvebT daarCevnebiT SevcvliT dRevan-

del xelisuflebas. Sevcv-liT im usaxur realobas, ro-melic Cven zugdidqalaqSi,mTels zugdidis raionSi dasruliad saqarTveloSia.

rogorc amas winaT uwmindesma da

unetaresma brZana : “sikeTe yovelTvis

imarjvebs borotebaze”. madloba ufals

am didi wyalobisaTvis. Mmdabali SiSi

sabolood unda daiZlios. Cveni arCeva-

ni unda iyos mtkice da gabeduli. simar-

Tlea is Zala, romelic SiSs amarcxebs.

dRes simarTle “qarTuli ocnebis” mxa-

resaa.

mjera, zugdidi da sruli-ad saqarTvelo 1 oqtombersRirseul gamarjvebas moipo-vebs. manamde ki 22 seqtemberszugdidSi Sedgeba samagali-To sazeimo Sexvedra batonbiZina ivaniSvilTan da koa-liciis sxva liderebTan.

yvelas gelodebiT, Cemogautexelo zugdidelebo!

merab qvaraiakoalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~

zugdidis ofisis xelmZRvaneli

interviu Tbilisis saxelmwifo uni-

versitetis istoriis fakultetis II

kursis studentTan, koalicia `qarTuli

ocnebis~ vakis axalgazrduli frTis

wevrTan irakli kalandiasTan

_ irakli, ratom gadawyvite `qar-

Tul ocnebaSi~ gawevrianeba?

_ Cemi kursidan sul ramdenime varT,

vinc es gadawyvetileba miviReT. imitom,

rom migvaCnia, ase gagrZeleba aRar SeiZ-

leba. oqtombris arCevnebi gviaxlovdeba

da es aris bolo Sansi _ saqarTvelo an

ganviTarebis swor gzas daadgeba, an da-

iRupeba, unda Seicvalos yvelaferi.

_ ris Secvlas gulisxmobT?

_ qveyanaSi masobrivi SiSia gamefebu-

li. ar unda gagrZeldes ase, Tu ase ki-

dev gagrZelda, SeveguebiT gabatonebul

SiSs, mere ukve Zalian gviani iqneba.

amboben, kriminali da korufcia dava-

marcxeTo, kriminali ar aris is, me ofi-

sidan `qarTuli ocnebis~ maisuriT rom

gamovdivar da ar vici, saxlSi cocxali

davbrundebi Tu ara?

iciT, Tqven, cota xnis win daakaves

`qarTuli ocnebis~ axalgazrduli jgu-

fis wevri beqa jiqiZe da ukve miusajes

winaswari orTviani patimroba.

Cven CavatareT aqcia Sinagan saqmeTa

saministrosTan, magram rad ginda, reagi-

reba ar yofila.

_ is xulignobis braldebiT daaka-

ves. Tqven Tu SemTxvevis adgilze ar yo-

filxarT, ra iciT, iqneb ixuligna kide-

vac?

_ ara, ara, me, marTalia, iq ar vyo-

filvar, magram aseTi ram ar imaleba. be-

qa `qarTuli ocnebis~ maisuriT yofila

megobarTan erTad. im megobars patara

Cxubi mosvlia da beqa jiqiZe wauyvaniaT.

iq Seuracxyofac miuyenebiaT beqasTvis

samarTaldamcavebs.

saqme isaa, rom ver vitan tyuils da

TvalTmaqcobas. sanam pirvel kursze vi-

yavi, biZina ivaniSvilis fuliT xdeboda

pirveli korpusis remonti, Cven mexuTe

korpusSi viyaviT, kibeebi ise iyo morye-

uli, xis ficrebiT iyo gamagrebuli,

studentebs erTi suli gvqonda, rodis

garemontdeboda pirveli korpusi. yvela

fiqrobda, rom remonti universitetis

saxsrebiT midioda da aravin icoda, rom

ivaniSvili akeTebda amas. mere, roca ga-

davediT I korpusSi, aravis uTqvams, rom

ivaniSvilis xeliT iyo galamazebuli

iqauroba.

me da Cemi megobrebi ise varT ganwyo-

bili, rom ar davTmobT Cvens arCevans da

es Zalian mixaria, Tumca guli mwydeba,

rom studentebis umetesobas, ZiriTadad

maT, vinc regionebidan aris Camosuli in-

formacia ar aqvT da yvelaferi ise hgo-

niaT, rogorc saxelisuflebo televizi-

ebidan xedaven. aq, universitetSi, maTi

ZiriTadi `ideologi~ TviTmmarTvelobaa,

romelsac dahyavs eseni eqskursiebze, po-

litizebul SemecnebiT-gasarTob Ronis-

Ziebebs atareben, aTasobiT Tanxebi ixar-

jeba iseT rameebze da studentebs war-

modgenac ar aqvT, rom es maTi swavlis

gadasaxadia, maTive jibeebidan amoRebu-

li.

kmayofili arian, TavisTavad cxadia,

da mere isev am TviTmmarTvelobas irCe-

ven da ver xvdebian, ra situaciaa qveya-

naSi.

me studentur gaerTianeba `studen-

tur xmaSic~ viyavi. vibrZodiT gaTavi-

suflebuliyo universiteti marTvadi

TviTmmarTvelobisagan. TviTmmarTvelo-

bam ramdenjerme mTxova gavmxdariyavi

maTi jgufis wevri, magram ganvucxade

_ me var `qarTuli ocnebis~ wevri da

ar SemiZlia viyo TqvenTan, radgan ver

moviTmen calmxriv politikur propa-

gandas studentebSi-meTqi. ver miviReb-

di nacmoZraobis mier dagegmil Ronis-

ZiebebSi monawileobas, rogorc amas

TviTmmarTvelobis wevrebi akeTeben.

ver wavidodi, magaliTad, makkeinTan

Sexvedraze da a.S. arada valdebulni

arian. Tbilisis merTan Sesaxvedrad

amas winaT grandiozuli Sexvedra mo-

awyves.

tendenciuri rom aris yvelaferi, es

ar momwons. biZina ivaniSvils rom undo-

des studentebTan Sexvedra, vin icis, ra

moxdeba. TviTmmarTveloba, albaT, xels

ki ar Seuwyobs, piriqiT, SeuSlis.

yvelaze metad axla vwux-var imaze, ra moxdeba sameg-reloSi ivaniSvilTan Sex-vedraze. me samegrelos Svi-li var da velodebi, rom sa-megrelom unda Tqvas yvela-ze Tamami da gadamwyvetisityva. rac samegreloSixdeba, es araa ubralo amba-vi, me vityodi, es aris faSiz-mis umaRlesi done. pirda-pir Sedian saxlebSi da eub-nebian _ Svils dagiWer, mo-giklav, Tu ar dagviWermxars da a.S. magram me imedimaqvs da yvelaze metad mindaaxla es _ realobam molo-dins gadaaWarbos, movidesZalian bevri xalxi. aravisar unda SeeSindes Tundacroland axalaiasi, sircxvi-lia, roca am adamianis kan-didaturas sTavazoben as-arCevad zugdidis mosaxle-obas, Tan upirispirebenirakli alasanias, araa esnormaluri situacia.

me zugdidis aqciaze aucileblad wa-

val, SevuerTdebi megrelebis protests

Zaladobis da usamarTlobis winaaRmdeg.

unda gavimarjvoT, sxva gza ar aris!

iranda kalandaZe

samegrelom unda Tqvas yvelaze Tamami sityva...

mimarTva zugdidelebs

3#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

dRes aq, patara kaxis

sataxto qalaqSi, gansa-

kuTrebuli simZafriT

vgrZnobT kaxeli kacis

gautexel Zalasa da su-

lier simtkices, romel-

mac ara erTxel ixsna

qarTlkaxeTica da mTeli

saqarTveloc sruli fi-

zikuri da sulieri ga-

nadgurebisagan.

swored kaxel kacs,

baxtrionis gmirs, saqarT-

velos umamaces mxedars,

biZina ColoyaSvils ekuT-

vnis STamomavlobisaTvis

anderZad danatovari sity-

vebi:

„...Zmebo, nu SevSindebiT,

rameTu sikvdili uneblieT

dabadebidanve Tan gvax-

lavs... da raki unda movkv-

deT, barem movkvdeT qris-

tesTvis da saqarTvelosT-

vis“.

me erTxel gamovTqvi

Cemi mosazreba erTerT

xidTan dakavSirebiT.

es sakaSvilma xelze da-

ixvia da braldebebi moayo-

la, rom me damangreveli

var, TviTon ki aRmSenebe-

li. wlebis ganmavlobaSi

imaze vzrunavdi, rom Cemi

qveynis aRmSeneblobaSi mi-

meRo monawileoba. da amaSi

araferia gansakuTrebuli,

radgan am qveynis Svili

var da es Cems movaleobad

mimaCnda da mimiCnia.

rac mikeTebia, yvelafe-

ri Tavad miiweres, yvela-

feri, da axla gamoRma me-

davebian, damangreveli xa-

ro.

roca rames akeTeb, rac

SeiZleba Cumad unda akeTo,

uxmaurod.

qveynis prezidenti Ta-vis xalxs ganadgurebiT ar

emuqreba, kriminals da

mters ar uwodebs, es ar

xdeba arc erT civilize-

bul qveyanaSi.

es unda damTavrdes!

Tavisi Zalauflebis Se-

sanarCuneblad, saakaSvili

cdilobs, orad gahyos

xalxi da samkvdro-sasi-

cocxlod gadahkidos erT-

maneTs. amgvari saSineli

dapirispirebis umwaresi

gakveTili oci wlis win

miiRo Cvenma xalxma, rome-

lic, mjera, imdenad dabr-

Zenebulia, rom ukve msgav-

si aRaraferi moxdeba.

yvelam TvalnaTliv dai-

naxa, rom arc erTi xeli-

sufleba da politikuri

lideri ar Rirs imad, rom

misma momxreebma da mowina-

aRmdegeebma erTmaneTi sa-

sikvdilod gaimeton. ami-

tom saakaSvili, ramdensac

unda ecados, ver gaxleCs

Cvens xalxs.

cotac gauZeliT, xal-

xo, erTi Tvec aRar darCa

arCevnebamde, da gpirdebiT,

rom momavali rTveli sxva-

nairi iqneba.

me gamovnaxe kanonie-

ri gza dazaralebulTa

daxmarebisTvis da is 80-

milioniani jarima, rome-

lic saxelmwifom ukano-

nod damakisra, gadavricxe

stiqiis Sedegad dazarale-

buli mosaxleobis dasaxma-

reblad da es fuli auci-

leblad da uklebliv unda

moxmareboda xalxs!

xom xedavT Tqvenc, rom

es Tanxac ar movida Tqve-

namde, radgan xelisufle-

bam isev sakuTari miznebis-

Tvis sxvadasxva regionSi

gadaanawila. arada es 80

milioni imis saSulebas

iZleoda, rom TiToeul

ojaxs kompensaciis saxiT

sul cota 4 aTas 700 la-

ri mieRo!

axla medavebian, Ti-

Tqos maswvaleblebs vemuq-

rebi da vaSineb. ar daije-

roT, xalxo, piriqiT, Cem-

ze meti qomagi aravin geyo-

lebaT, icodeT!

me mxolod imas vambob,

rom dRes yvelaze uuflo-

bo da damcirebuli maswav-

leblebi arian. dRes xeli-

sufleba maTgan srul mor-

Ciebas da msaxurebas mo-

iTxovs, maswavleblis uf-

rosia yvela - ministri,

direqtori, mandaturi,

xSirad mSobelic ki.

maswavleblis avtori-

teti mTlianad dakninebu-

lia. maswavleblebo, qeds

vixri Tqven winaSe!

visac gindaT, rom

Cveni Svilebi karg ganaT-

lebas ewafebodnen, kargi

da iafi saxelmZRvaneloe-

biT swavlobdnen, modiT

arCevnebze da xma mogveciT

Cven, „qarTul ocnebas“!

visac gindaT, rom Tqve-

ni da Tqveni axloblebis

janmrTeloba saxelmwifom

daazRvios, arc wamali eZ-

virebodes da arc karg sa-

avadmyofoSi mkurnaloba,

modiT da airCieT „qarTu-

li ocneba“ da misi maJori-

tarobis kandidati.

maT ki, vinc nacionalur

moZraobas Semoxazavs ma-

inc, icodnen, rom rodesac

Cven movalT xelisufleba-

Si, maT aravin gauxsenebs

aseT arCevans, da yoveli

sikeTiT, rasac saqarTve-

los aRmSenebloba moi-

tans, isinic iseve isargeb-

leben, rogorc yvela da-

narCeni.

Cven bolos movuRebT

xalxis dayofas xelisuf-

lebis momxreebad da mowi-

naaRmdegebad, amas gpirde-

biT!

Cemo TanamebrZolebo!qudze kaci unda gamovi-

des!

Cven unda vibrZoloT

sakuTari momavlisTvis,

Cveni Svilebis momavlisT-

vis!

Cveni samSoblosTvis!

Cveni saqarTvelosTvis!

Cven iseT qveyanas avaSe-

nebT, sadac veRaravin waar-

Tmevs xalxs Tavis arCe-

vans!

Cven Rirsebas davubru-

nebT Cvens qveyanas!

Cven Rirsebas davubru-

nebT da gavaerTianebT Cvens

xalxs!

Cveni qveyana Tavs daaR-

wevs gaWirvebas!

Cven iseT qveyanas avaSe-

nebT, sadac aRaravis das-

Wirdeba lukmapuris saSov-

nelad samSoblodan gadax-

vewa.

saqarTveloSi daculi

iqneba adamianis yvela uf-

leba, azrisa da sityvis

Tavisufleba;

sasamarTlo iqneba sa-

marTliani, media - damou-

kidebeli, biznesi -xxelSeu-

xebeli!

iseT qveyanas avaSenebT,

sadac Cvens saamayo jaris-

kacebsa da policielebs

miecemaT imis SesaZleblo-

ba, rom Rirseulad emsaxu-

ron saxelmwifos da ara

romelime xelisufals!

Tavisufal saqarTvelo-

Si Tavisufali xalxi

icxovrebs, romelsac aRar

eqneba politikuri devnis

SiSi!

me amas gpirdebiT!

fragmentebi biZina ivaniSvilisgamosvlis teqstidan

9 seqtembris aqciaze, TelavSi

4 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

luis navarom aiCema, bi-

Zina ivaniSvilma 2 oqtom-

bers xalxs saprotesto ga-

mosvlebisken mouwodao.

ar uTqvams es biZina iva-

niSvils, man Tqva, Tu ar-

Cevnebi gayalbdeba, 2 oq-

tombers `qarTuli ocne-

bis~ mxardamWerebi quCaSi

gamovalT, rom dagvTvalon,

Tu ramdeni varT sinamdvi-

leSio.

vimeoreb, ar uxsenebia

ivaniSvils sityva protes-

ti, Tumca romc exsenebina,

ra, qarTvel xalxs, Tu mas

arCevnebs uyalbeben da mis

Rirsebas fexqveS Telaven,

protestis gamoxatvis uf-

leba ara aqvs?

frangebs, berZn-ebs, italielebs,arabebs, qurTebs,

ingliselebs ufl-eba aqvT protestigamoTqvan ki ara,Tavze daamxon yve-laferi TavianTuRirs xelisufle-bebs, qarTvelebs kierTi uwyinari, mSv-idobiani protes-tis uflebac ar hq-oniaT Turme.

ratom, Zmao, risi gu-

lisTvis, Torem ki...

vis ra dauSavdeba Cveni

protestiT _ SeiZleba erTi

_ miSa wadi! daviZaxoT da

sanam is wasvlas moifiqrebs,

Cven TviTon wavalT saxlSi.

oTxi Tu xuTi welia

sul vaprotestebT da vap-

rotestebT, magram vis ra

ziani miadga amiT, vis ra

gaufuWda?

protestis uf-leba, gavigeT, romar gvaqvs, magramimis ufleba maincTu gvaqvs, dagvTva-lon?

_ ra dagTvalon, kaco,

Tqven xom ar SeiSaleT,

rom dagTvalon, quCaSi xom

unda gamoxvideT, quCaSi ga-

mosvla ki ukve protestia,

_ gadairia navaro.

e.i. quCaSi gamosvlis

uflebac ar gvaqvs, navaro?

ra varo, ra Tqvaam navarom?

ra varo da sazo-gadoebrivi azriskvleva var da ga-m o k v l ev e bu l e b svumtkiceb, rom me-rabiSvils ufromaRali reitingiaqvs, vidre ivaniS-vils da es Cemi ga-mokvleva arCevneb-Si Tu SesabamisprocentebSi aisa-xeba, ar gaikvirvo-To.

gakvirvebiT ki gaikvir-

veT, Tu gindaT, magram qu-

CaSi gamosvla da, miTume-

tes, protestis gamoTqma

ar gabedoTo, _`Cagvinamio-

ka~ navarom.

TiTqmis igive gviTxra

megobris (saakaSvilis) sa-

naxavad Camosulma makkein-

mac, oRond ufro rTulad

da CaxlarTulad _ ar iq-

neba kargi arCevnebis Semdeg

dapirispireba xangrZliv

davaSi gadaizardos... damar-

cxebasTan Segueba unda vis-

wavloTo, _ dagvariga.

gayalbebasTan Segueba

unda viswavloTo, geTqvaT,

barem, mister jon...

* * *

rogorc irkveva, qarTve-

lebs quCaSi gamosvlis uf-

leba da amasTan erTad pro-

testis uflebac CamogvarT-

ves.

xelisufleba Rv-Tisaao, _ gvaswav-lis biblia, magram,veWvob, am frazaSiis xelisufleba ig-ulisxmebodes, ro-melic navaroebis,maWavarianebis, go-goriSvilebis, Ta-rxniSvilebis, ia-kobaSvilebis miergayalbebuli arCe-vnebis wyalobiTgaxda xelisufle-ba.

_ diqtaturis winaaRm-

deg ajanyeba RvTis morCi-

lebao, _ gvimtkicebs Tomas

jefersoni.

jefersoni wesieri kaci

iyo da tyuils ar ityo-

da...

rasmuseni Camovida

da avRaneTSi sabr-

Zolvelad qarTveli

biWebi cxvris farasa-

viT waasxa, samagie-

rod, imediani sity-

vebi dagvitova: _

Tqven sul ufro da

ufro uaxlovdebiT

natos... axla ise ax-

los xarT, ise ax-

los xarT, aqamde

arasodes rom ar yo-

filxarTo.

me mgoni, eseni

gvabiTureben, Cven

kidev azrze ar

varT...

nato qimerad da moC-venebad iqca _ Cven vuax-lovdebiT, vuaxlovde-biT, vuaxlovdebiT, is kisul ufro da ufrogvSordeba...

_ ai, axla am oqtombris ar-

Cevnebs samarTlianad rom Caata-

rebT, CaTvaleT, rom TiTqmis na-

toSi xarTo, _ gviTxres.

ar apirebs saakaSvili am ar-

Cevnebis samarTlia-

nad Catarebas _ ar

unda am kacs natoSi

da Zalaa?

iseTi fo-kusebis kori-antels daaye-neben `nacebi~oqtomberSi,erTi oci we-li natos ka-

rebTan axlosacar migvikareben,

samagierod, msofli-

os sxvadasxva cxel

wertilebSi qarTvelTa

aqtiur monawileobaze

didsulovnad dagvTanxm-

debian.

Cven natoSi Sesvlisufleba ar gvaqvs, ToremnatosTvis sikvdilisufleba vin wagvarTva?

avRaneTidan natos qveynebi ga-

modian, Cven kidev ufro gaZlie-

rebuli kontingentiT vrCebiT.

saerTod, mTeli Crdilo-at-

lantikuri aliansi

rom gamovides avRane-

Tidan, Cven mainc davr-

CebiT.

davrCebiT damovkvdebiT na-tos saxeliT.

sakuTar omSi sikv-

dili gvezareba, Torem

sxvis omSi sikvdili

TamaSad da gviCans mRe-

rad.

ase iyo odiTganve,

asea axlac da ase iqne-

ba, albaT, momavalSic...

protestis ufleba, gavigeT, rom ar gvaqvs, magramimis ufleba mainc Tu gvaqvs, rom dagvTvalon?

rasmusenma dagvibara...

luis navaros gamokvlevebi

gamokvlevebulTaTvis

5saerTo gazeTi#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

gasuli kviris SabaTs ga-

marTulma `nacionaluri moZ-

raobis~ yrilobam Tu yrilo-

bebma sabWoTa periodis dRe-

saswaulebi gamaxsena, roca 1

maiss Tu 7 noembers qalaqeb-

sa Tu soflebSi mSromelTa

kolonebi gamoefinebodnen da

wiTeli almebis frialiT

esalmebodnen tribunebze Se-

moskupebul partiul didka-

cobas.

garegnulad TiTqos yvela-

feri rigze iyo _ adamianebs

bednieri, gacinebuli saxeebi

hqondaT, skandirebiTac xma-

Sewyobilad skandirebdnen,

plakatebzec kompartiis sadi-

debeli sityvebi ewera, quxda

mxne, optimisturi musika, mag-

ram mTeli ubedureba is iyo,

rom yvelafer amas siyalbis

da xelovnurobis elferi

dahkravda.

saqme imaSia, rom am adami-

anebis umravlesoba Zalad, sa-

valdebulo wesiT iyo quCaSi

gamorekili da mTeli es dRe-

saswauli Tavidan bolomde

dadgmuli iyo, rogorc gran-

diozuli speqtakli.

rogorc dRes saakaSvili

da `nacmoZraoba~ avaldebu-

lebs Tavis rwmunebulebs, gam-

geblebs, skolis direqto-

rebs, sabiujeto organizacie-

bis xelmZRvanelebs gamoiyva-

non adamianebi ama Tu im Ro-

nisZiebebze, zustad ase aval-

debulebdnen komunistebi Ta-

vianT partiul qveSevrdomebs,

fabrika-qarxnebis direqto-

rebs, kolmeurneobebis Tavmj-

domareebs, umaRlesi saswav-

leblebis, skolebis xelmZR-

vanelebs organizeba gaekeTebi-

naT da uzrunvelyoT adamian-

Ta asprocentiani daswreba.

marTalia, mixeil saakaSvi-

li sxvebs ukiJinebs, warsul-

Si undaT dagvabrunono, mag-

ram sinamdvileSi swored saa-

kaSvili gvabrunebs warsulSi,

ufro zustad ki ar gvabru-

nebs, ukve dagvabruna komunis-

tur epoqaSi.

faqtobrivad, es erTi-erT-

Si imeorebs komunisturi

mmarTvelobis stils da im pi-

arteqnologiebs, romelTac

komunistebi cdilobdnen ada-

mianebisTvis tvinebis gamo-

recxvas da dazombirebas.

mixeil saakaSviliTavisi bunebiT, Tavi-si xasiaTiT da fsiqi-kiT Zalian hgavs ga-suli saukunis 30-ianiwlebis bolSevikebs_ maTsaviT isic mzadaris gaanadguros

oponentebi, daamci-ros, daakninos yve-la, visac misgan gans-xvavebuli azrebi daSexedulebebi aqvs, pi-rad mtrad aRiqvasyvela, vinc mas monu-rad qeds ar uxris.

isic, 30-iani wlebis bol-

SevikebiviT, axali tipis ada-

mianis Seqmnas cdilobs (gaix-

seneT lisenkos cnobili

sityvebi: `me ar davbadebul-

var adamianad, me adamianad

partiam Semqmna~).

nebismieri saSualo inte-

leqtis fsiqologi damidas-

turebs, rom adamianebi erTma-

neTisgan mkveTrad gansxvavebu-

li zniT da xasiaTiT ibadebi-

an da am genetikuri kodis

Secvla arc aRzrdas SeuZlia,

arc ganaTlebas.

saakaSvilis tra-gedia is aris, rom isdabadebiT ar arisdemokrati.

demokratobac Ta-ndayolili RvTiTnaboZebi niWia, demok-ratebad ibadebian,ise rogorc ibadebi-an musikosebad, mxat-vrebad, poetebad...

despotebad da diqtatore-

badac ibadebian, ise rogorc

ibadebian mkvlelebad, klep-

tomanebad, sadistebad, sado-

mazoxistebad, avazakebad, ka-

rieristebad, egoistebad.

mixeil saakaSvili tragi-

kuli pirovnebaa _ mas unda

ecxovra bolSevikur saqarT-

veloSi, tyavis Savi palto

unda cmoda da xelSi mauzeri

unda sWeroda, mas ki bedis

ironiiT, demokratiul saqar-

TveloSi mouwia cxovrebam da

moRvaweobam.

mixeil saakaSvilidemokratiiT datan-juli kacia, radganis iZulebulia xanda-xan mainc moiqces ise,TiTqos demokratiiyos da akeTos is, ri-si gakeTebac mis Sina-gan bunebas radika-lurad ewinaaRmdege-ba.

mas ukiduresad sZuls de-

mokratiuli Rirebulebebi,

sZuls is demokratiuli ins-

titutebi da is pirovnebebic,

romlebic mas demokratiisken,

Semwynareblobis da loialu-

robisken mouwodeben.

misi politikuri karie-

risTvis aucilebeli rom ar

iyos, is siamovnebiT gaanadgu-

rebda yvelas da yvelafers,

rac mis Zalauflebas ewinaaR-

mdegeba da, misi azriT, safr-

Txes uqmnis.

is demokratobanas Tama-

Sobs da amiT itanjeba, wva-

lobs, iTrguneba, Tumca xSi-

rad TamaSs Tavs anebebs da, ai,

maSin warsdgeba xolme Tavisi

namdvili saxiT, saxiT, rome-

lic pirquSi, sastiki, Suris-

maZiebeli da daundobelia.

roca demokratiiT taki-

masxroba bezrdeba, niRabs ix-

dis da mobezrebuli rolis-

gan Tavisufldeba, is TiTqos

garegnuladac sxvanairi xdeba

_ sxva dros moSvebuli misi

dondlo torsi energiiT

imuxteba, xmaSi foladi gamo-

ereva da is raRaciT emsgavse-

ba yumbaras, romelic sadacaa

gamosxlteba lulidan da mi-

zanSi amoRebuli msxverplis

gasanadgureblad gaeSureba.

saakaSvilisTvis samyaro

Sav-TeTria. adamianebic da

adamianebTan urTierTobac

Sav-TeTr ferebSi aqvs gadawy-

vetili _ Savia yvela, vinc

mis oponentobas bedavs, TeT-

ri _ vinc monurad Sescici-

nebs TvalebSi.

is, rogorc Cans, ukve da-

iRala demokratiiT da bolo

xanebSi demokratiis mSeneb-

lobaze cotas laparakobs, sa-

magierod, Zalian bevrs saub-

robs ama Tu im obieqtis, sax-

lebis, xidebis, qalaqebis mSe-

neblobebze, riTac TiTqos de-

mokratiis deficitis kompen-

sacias cdilobs.

_ ra dros omia,demokratia maqvs as-aSenebelio, ki ar am-bobs, _ ra dros omia,lazika maqvs asaSene-belio, _ iZaxis.

mas hgonia, rom la-zikis, an sxva romeli-me obieqtis aSenebiTgadafaravs da gadas-wonis qveyanaSi de-mokratiuli insti-tutebis ararsebo-bas.

obieqtebis mSeneblobas is

saxelmwifos mSeneblobasTan

aigivebs, rac absoluturad

mcdari da yovlad

ususuri demagogiaa.

_ Cven ar gvinda

warsulSi dabruneba,

Cven, win, momavlisken

unda viaroT. win, sa-

qarTvelo! _ ambobs sa-

akaSvili, Tumca man ar

icis gza winisken, anu

momavlisken, rogorc

ar icodnen es misma

sulierma winaprebma,

komunistebma, romleb-

sac sul Âïåðåä eke-

raT pirze, magram aR-

moCnda, rom es Âïåðåäufskruli iyo.

roca warsulze

laparakobs, saakaSvili

ver xvdeba da ver acnobie-

rebs, rom Tavad aris warsu-

li Tavad aris guSindeli

dRe, miuxedavad misi axalgaz-

rduli asakisa.

(unda iTqvas, rom asaki sa-

erTod arafer SuaSi ar aris

imis gansasazRvrad, vin ras

warmoadgens, vin ra faseulo-

bebs emsaxureba da vin azrov-

nebs ufro progresulad).

usamarTlo da uargumento

mgonia saakaSvilis mimarT say-

veduri, Tu ratom ver aSenebs

igi demokratias?

es igivea, adamians, romel-

sac xatvis niWi ar aqvs, vu-

sayveduroT, ratom ar SeuZ-

lia maRalmxatvruli nawar-

moebi Seqmnas.

es igivea, adamians, romel-

sac musikaluri smena ar aqvs,

simfoniis an operis dawera

davavaloT da roca is am da-

valebas ver Seasrulebs, say-

vedurebiT avavsoT.

ar aqvs mixeil saakaSvils

demokratobis niWi da ra

hqnas?

risi niWic aqvs,rac gangebam uboZa imniWs is SesaniSnavadiyenebs, magram demok-rati verasodes gax-deba da ramdenic arunda wvrTnan ucxo-elma maswavleblebmaam saqmidan araferigamova.

jer kidev rodis Tqva po-

etma: `magram marto wvrTna

ras uzams, Tu bunebam ar uS-

vela~.

is ubedurobani, rac saa-

kaSvilma daatriala, ar aris

mxolod misi brali, es im sa-

zogadoebis bralia, romelmac

demokratiis mSeneblad iseTi

kaci airCia, romlisTvisac de-

mokratiuli Rirebulebebi Ta-

vidanve miuRebeli da ucxo

iyo.

saakaSvili TavisibunebiT, Tavisi Sina-gani wyobiT, TavisifsiqikiT, stalinis

uniWo mibaZvaa, amit-omac eCveneba mas biZi-na ivaniSvili tr-ockad, xolo misi ga-remocva zinoviev-ka-menevis dajgufebad.

mixeil saakaSvili misi

SecdomebiT savse cxrawliani

moRvaweobis Semdeg, Zalianac

rom undodes, demokratias ver

aaSenebs, radgan es iqneba

umkacresi ganaCeni misTvis.

saakaSvilma rom dRes

demokratia aaSenos, es igivea

xarakiri gaikeTos.

saakaSvili demokratiiT

datanjuli kacia.

saakaSvilisTvisdemokratia bedi md-evaria, romelic ad-re Tu gvian aucile-blad wamoeweva dayvelaferze erTadmosTxovs pasuxs.

giorgigamezardaSvili

demokratiiT datanjuli

miSas imitom hgonia ivaniSvili trocki,

rom TviTon aris patara stalini

6 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

`̀ssaaeerrTToo ggaazzeeTTiiss~~ ssttuummaarriiaa

bbaattoonnii gogi TofaZe..

__ bbaattoonnoo ggooggii,, NDI-iiss ssoo-cciioollooggiiuurrii kkvvlleevveebbiiss bboolloo

SSeeddeeggeebbzzee ssaauubbrriiTT rroomm aarr ddaa-

vviiwwyyoo,, uubbrraalloodd,, wwaarrmmoouuddggeennee-

lliiaa __ rraass iittyyvviiTT,, TTqqvveenncc nnaa-

wwiilloobbrriivv eeTTaannxxmmeebbiiTT ddaaddeebbuull

SSeeddeeggeebbss??

_ unda giTxraT, rom me

arc erT kvlevas ar vaqcev yu-

radrebas, radgan imTavidanve

vici, rom es kvlevebi gamiznu-

lad tardeba da sazogadoebis

dezorientaciazea gaTvlili _

ar minda amaze saubari... me ra-

sac 1995 wlidan vuyureb, im

process arCevnebs ver davarq-

mev _ iyo Zaladoba, tomrebiT

iyreboda xmebi, 1999-Sic ase

iyo, mere ufro daxvewes teq-

nologiebi _ mrCevelebi bevri

hyavT da daiwyes egzitpolebi,

siebis damaxinjeba, `karusele-

bi~ da kidev vin icis, ramdeni

ram arsebobs, magram rogor

davujeroT im xalxs, romelic

1995 wlidan aq iyo, eswrebo-

da arCevnebs da ver dainaxa

verc erTi darRveva!

__ aammaazzee mmiiggaanniiSSnneebbddiiTT,, ppaa-

ttiivvcceemmuullii `̀mmkkvvlleevvaarreebbii~~ ddaa

ddaammkkvviirrvveebblleebbii TTvviiTToonn xxoomm aarr

aarriiaann `̀ddaassaakkvviirrvveebblleebbii~~ ddaa TTaann

ssaaffuuZZvvlliiaannaadd ddaassaakkvviirrvveebblleebbii??

`̀aarrCCeevvnneebbii CCaattaarrddaa ddeemmookkrraattii-

uullaadd,, mmcciirree ddaarrRRvveevveebbiiTT~~ __ mmee

mmxxoolloodd aammggvvaarrii `̀ddaakkvviirrvveebbiiss

SSeeddeeggeebbii~~ mmaaxxssoovvss......

_ 1999 wlis arCevenebidan

erT faqts gavixseneb _ kaspSi

gvyavda erTi Zalian aqtiuri

aqtivisti qalbatoni komisia-

Si. damkvirvebeli iyo, ar max-

sovs, danieli iyo Tu belgie-

li qali, 8-is naxevarze sinaT-

le rom Caaqres da Semovidnen

tomrebiT, es patara qali, aq-

tivisti, rom gadaefara urnas

wivil-kiviliT, ver aaglijes

verafriT. atyda CoCqoli. sib-

neleSi, am Cxubsa da aliaqoT-

Si veRar gaarCies da am ucxo-

els moxvda muSti, saxis cali

mxare gvarianad Caulurjda.

mokled, xmebi Caiyara da dai-

wera daskvna, rom yvelaferi

normalurad Catarda, yovelg-

vari darRvevis gareSe. meore

dRes preskonferencia movawy-

veT da es qalic iq iyo. saidan

gaqvT saxeze es silurje-meT-

qi. raRacas davejaxeo. ki ar

daejaxe, gcemes Se usindiso,

ra fuli gaqvs aRebuli, rom

gagxeTqes cemiT da xels awer

daskvnas, rom yvelaferi kar-

gad Catarda, darRveva ar da-

fiqsirebula-meTqi...

ai, esaa damkvirveblebi!

1995 wlidan ramdeni arCevnebi

Catarda da nuTu verasdros

veravin dainaxa seriozuli

darRveva? _ amitom ar mwams

amaTi.

__ aamm oorriiooddee ddRRiiss wwiinn ssaaaa-

kkaaSSvviilliiss mmeeggoobbrreebbii,, ppaattiivvcceemmuu-

llii uuccxxooeellii ssttuummrreebbii,, xxaallxxiiss

aarrCCeevvaanniiss ppaattiivviissmmcceemmlleebbii rroomm

iiyyvvnneenn CCaammoossuulleebbii,, rrooggoorr ggggoo-

nniiaaTT,, mmaarrTTllaa xxaallxxiiss nneebbiiss

mmxxaarrddaassaaWWeerraadd CCaammoovviiddnneenn?? iiqq-

nneebb,, ppiirriiqqiiTT,, mmeeggoobbaarrii ggaaaammxxnnee-

vveess ddaa aammiittoommaacc ddaaggvviiggddeess

ssiittyyvvaa,, ddaammaarrccxxeebbuullmmaa RRiirrsseeuu-

llaadd uunnddaa mmiiiiRRooss xxaallxxiiss aarrCCee-

vvaanniioo......

_ axla situacia cota Se-

icvala da ratom iciT, Tvi-

Ton, es xelisufleba imdenad

aris diskreditebuli saerTa-

Soriso asparezze, imdenad ga-

igo yvelam, rom es yvelaferi

blefia, tyuilia, ra demokra-

tia, ris demokratia, rom maTi

ganwyoba Seicvala...

am xelisuflebam imdeni ra-

me akadra saqarTvelos mosax-

leobas, rom aRaraferi darCaT

saTqmeli, erTaderTi, rac

darCaT, esaa daSineba da tero-

ri, rasac vxvdebiT kidec

yvelgan.

iciT, ra aris yvelaze cu-

di da miuRebeli, nebismieri

wyobis mTavroba, simarTliT

iqneba Tu sicruiT, cdilobs

sakuTari xalxis gulis moge-

bas, cdilobs, moaCvenos, rom

maTze mzrunvelia _ am xeli-

suflebam esec dakarga, sru-

lebiT ar ainteresebs mosax-

leobis azri. am xelisuflebam

icis, rom amdeni motyuebis

Semdeg aRaravin daujerebs da

es Zalian saxifaToa – xeli-

sufleba, romelic aRar cdi-

lobs, rom Tavisi xalxis gu-

li moigos, totalitarizmidan

tiraniaSi gadadis, Zaladobis

nebismieri formiT ecdeba, rom

Tavi gadairCinos.

xalxisTvis Tavmowonebaze

vlaparakob da, rac amaT biZina

ivaniSvils gaukeTes, romel

CarCoSi jdeba, romel saxelm-

wifos SeiZleba rom Sevada-

roT amaTi qmedeba _ yvelafer-

ze midian, rom Tavi da is mi-

tacebuli Tanxebi gadairCinon,

romlebic ofSorebSi aqvT. maT

kargad ician, rom xalxi Tu

ar SeSindeba, pasuxs mosTxovs

yvela im danaSaulze, rac Cai-

dines, amitom, amaTgan yvelafe-

ria mosalodneli.

me minda vuTxra mosaxleo-

bas, rom tyuilad eSiniaT. ki,

undaT, rom hyavdeT daSinebu-

li da aSineben, magram arafris

Tavi aRar aqvT.

__ rraacc ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss ssWWiirrss,,

aarr ffiiqqrroobbTT,, rroomm ggaarreeddaann mmaarr-

TTuullii pprroocceessiiaa??

_ ra Tqma unda, damRupveli

mrCevelebis. soflis meurneo-

bas rom ase moeqcevi da raRac

7-8 %-ze laparakob, ukve aRar

xar am qveynis adamiani – es

socialuri problemaa da ara

7-8 procenti. saqarTveloSi

ormocdaaT procentze meti,

e.i saqarTvelos mosaxleobis

naxevarze meti soflad cxov-

robs, amden xalxs rom wirav,

genocidi ar aris? _ milion-

naxevari kacia wasuli saqarT-

velodan, is ZiriTadi Zala,

romelic produqcias qmnis. Sen

waarTvi am xalxs wyali, teq-

nika, miwa da bolos samSoblo,

sxva qveynebSi mosamsaxureebad

gaaqcie da damcirebul mdgoma-

reobaSi Caagde. ratom? imitom,

rom ase girCies mrCevelebma...

daacarieles soflebi da

mere, kidev, erTi damafiqrebe-

li momentia _ Cveni tradici-

ebi damyarebulia patriarqat-

ze, ojaxis keTildReoba iyo

yovelTvis misi mamoZravebeli

mizani, ai, amas klaven – ra

ojaxi unda iyos da ra mamaka-

cur siamayeze SeiZleba lapa-

raki, roca ojaxis deda wlo-

biT wasulia ucxoeTSi da iqi-

dan inaxavs qmar-Svils, vin

icis, ra moralurad da fizi-

kurad mZime SromiT – daingra

ukve qarTuli tradicia. es

yvelaferi gaTvlilili iyo da

ase dagvingries qveyana, gaaube-

dures saqarTvelos mosaxleo-

ba...

ra moxdeba da rogor mox-

deba, ar vici, magram ivaniSvi-

li mova, namdvilad mova!

amoiwura yvelanairad amaTi

xelisuflebaSi darCenis pers-

peqtiva. sul davdivar sofel-

sofel da vatyob _ SiSis sin-

dromi Zlieri iyo, magram am

aqciebma didi gavlena moaxdi-

na, modis xalxi da aRar eSi-

niaT.

iciT, rogor aris _ qarT-

veli kaci momTmeni kaci gamod-

ga, uZlebs, rom ojaxSi xan

xorci ar aqvs da xan xaWapu-

ri da sacivi, rac yovelTvis

hqonda, itans, magram imas ve-

Rar itans, sakuTari STamomav-

lobis uperspeqtivoba rom da-

inaxa. qarTveli kaci ojaxiT

cocxlobs da Svili Tu Svi-

liSvili an unda wavides aqe-

dan, an monobaSi unda iyos –

es dainaxa da ukve veRar Cer-

deba, ukve sakuTar Tavs adana-

Saulebs, rom sakuTari modgma

monobisTvis gawira da is mom-

Tmeni aRaraa... xalxis nawilSi

iciT, ra igrZnoba _ `kargi, nu

damaxrCob axla, me vici, saar-

Cevno urnasTan ras vizam...~

qarTvel kacs gonierebas

ver waarTmev, qarTvel kacs

rom gonebrivi potenciali

aqvs genetikurad, nu Seedrebi-

an viRac-viRacebi, rom traba-

xoben – es xalxi mixvda erT

rames, rom es biZina ar ityue-

ba, is fulis saSovnelad ar

Camosula saqarTveloSi. is 5

mlrd, romelic gadagdebuli

aqvT amaT, aq moitans, aqeT da-

xarjavs Tavisas. kargi gaTvla

gaakeTa erTma Cvenma megobarma,

yoveldRe rom 1 mln. dolari

xarjos, 18 weli eyofa da ra

unda undodes kacs, romelsac

yvelaferi aqvs?

me didi xania biZinas vicnob

da sanam politikaSi gamoCnde-

boda, bevri gvaqvs nalaparakevi

– sul gancdebSi iyo.

biZinas ojaxsac kargad

vicnob, Wuris Tavze rom moa-

tarebda xels mamamisi, aba, ro-

meli gavsinjoTo _ ubralo

glexis ojaxidan gamosuli ka-

cia biZina da uniWieresi kaci

gamodga, xom?

ramdenjerme SevuTvale ben-

duqiZeebs (mase vuwodeb magaT

yvelas erTad, viTom eqsperte-

bi rom arian soflis meurneo-

bis sakiTxebSi), modiT, dami-

jeqiT debatebSi-meTqi, magram

ar movidnen, kurdRlebi arian.

axla rom movida axali premi-

eri da daiwyo biZinas sityve-

bis gameoreba _ ra xalxi ari-

an, ra gundia aseTi, rom, ro-

ca sofels klavdnen, vinc Tavs

giqnevdaT, axla ki ambobs, so-

felio, ratom ar ekamaTebian,

ra sofelio?

es modis 1996 wlidan, va-

lavi iyo savaluto fondidan,

maSin daiwyo, rom saqarTvelo-

Si mevenaxeoba uperspeqtivo

ra moxdeba da rogor moxdeba, ar vici, magram ivaniSvili mova

xelisuflebaSi, namdvilad mova!

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

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ariso ... ramdeni Cxubi mqon-

da...

iciT, ra aris yvelaze

sawyeni? SeiZleba, emsaxure-

bode raRac ideas, magram

rom ici, klav Seni qveynis

ekonomikas da nacvlad imis

aRiarebisa, rom SegeSala,

TuTiyuSiviT imeoreb, rad

gvinda sofeli, visa aqvs so-

felio. singapurs sada aqvs

miwa, kaco, erTi qalaqia

singapuri!

__ iiqqnneebb TTqqvveenn mmaaiinncc aammiixx-

ssnnaaTT,, rraa aaCCeemmeebbaaaa ssiinnggaappuurrii,,

ssiinnggaappuurrSSii ssiinnggaappuurreellii ssaann-

TTlliiTT aarriiss ssaaZZeebbaarrii ddaa aammaa-

SSii uunnddaa mmiivvbbaaZZooTT??

_ ra Tqma unda! mere, ro-

mel warmatebul qveyanas ar

aqvs soflis meurneoba _

amaze misaubria maTTan. erT-

ma Sveicaria momiyvna magali-

Tad, iqo, 5% aqvs soflis

meurneobaso. tyui-meTqi! Sen

rom angariSob rZe ramdeni

miiRo, im rZidan ramdeni ra-

mec gakeTda, 40%-ze metze

adis. Sveicaria sabanko qve-

yanaa, magram soflis meurne-

oba awyobili aqvT Zalian

Zlierad, Tavisi xili da

bostneuli aqvs, ratom Sei-

tans sxvisas _ aba, Cven rom

vakeTebT, egaa saqme?

__ kkaassppii aaqq ggvvqqoonnddeess ddaa

xxaaxxvvii ddaa nniioorrii eeggvviippttiiddaann

SSeemmooggvvqqoonnddeess??

_ ki, batono, egviptidan

SemoaqvT _ eseni arian qvey-

nis gamyidvelebi, amaT, am eq-

spertebs unda moeTxovos

pasuxi da maTTan erTad yve-

la im Jurnalists, milio-

nobiT xalxs rom atyueben.

Sen ici, rom sxva informa-

ciis wyaro raionSi ar aqvT,

gamodixar da atyueb? vin

aris es `imedi~, `rusTavi-

2~, `real-tv~ _ laparaki

ar aris Jurnalistur eTi-

kaze, adamianobazea laparaki

_ ar grcxvenia amas rom ake-

Teb? Cveni adaT-wesebi Rire-

bulia, rom garyveniT mTeli

saqarTvelos axalgazrdoba,

marto Tqven ar mogwonT? _

damRupvels rom laparakoben

da mainc jiutad imeoreben...

benduqiZe Tu wuxs saqar-

Tveloze, egec Zalian mdida-

ri kacia, oRond aqidan

gatanili fuliT gam-

didrda, biZinas rom

akritikeben, erTi

qvelmoqmedeba miTxran

ra gaukeTebiaT TviTon.

es kiTxva unda das-

vas xalxma _ benduqi-

Ze, Senc xom Zalian

mdidari xar, ivaniS-

vils araferi wauRia

saqarTvelodan, Sen ki,

aqedan gatacebuli fu-

liT vauCerebis speku-

laciiT gaxdi Zalian

mdidari kaci, rame va-

li ar gaqvs im qveynis

xalxis winaSe, vinc ga-

gamdidra? _ es amaT

yvelas exeba. ivaniSvils rom

akritikeb, raRac baza xom

unda gqondeT...

__ mmoorraalluurrii uufflleebbaa..

_ morali sada aqvT, ka-

co, qveyana gayides! aqamde

yvelgan iyvnen, `kavkasiazec~

gamodiodnen `maestrozec~ _

axla ratom aRar gamodi-

xarT, vanosi geSiniaT? aaa,

biZinasi ar geSiniaT? _ mo-

va biZina da mogeTxovebaT

pasuxi yvelaferze, rac Cai-

dineT saqarTveloSi!

__ bbiiZZiinnaass mmoossvvllaass aarrCCvvee-

nneebbii uuZZRRvviiss wwiinn,, aarrCCeevvnneebbii kkii

aammoommrrCCeevveelliiaa,, ssxxvvaass yyvveellaa-

ffeerrss TTaavvii rroomm ddaavvaanneebbooTT,, 11

110000 000000 kkaaccii uukkvvee mmiiwweerrii-

lliiaa ssiieebbSSii xxeelliissuufflleebbiiss

ssaassaarrggeebblloodd,, aannuu aarrCCeevveenneebbiiss

SSeeddeeggeebbii uukkvvee ggaayyaallbbeebbuulliiaa......

_ Tu biZina, es uWkviane-

si kaci iseTi miamiti ggoni-

aT, rom yuradRebas ar

aqcevs gayalbebis saSu-

alebebsa da meTodebs,

Zalian cdebiT. eseni

yaCaRoben _ eubnebian,

es kaci 12 wlis win

mokvdao da ara, mainc

Cawerilia siaSi... kar-

dakar xom iares, mivi-

ReT, rom Turme 3 600

000 amomrCeveli gvyavs

saqarTveloSi. amdeni

amomrCeveli ki ara, am-

deni mosaxleoba Tu

gvyavs? _ es erTi. meo-

re, ucxoeTSi ar dau-

toves xmis micemis San-

si, erTi, rom aralega-

ri xmas ver micems da

meore, damatebiTi sirTule-

ebi Seitanes da ratom _

ucxoeTSi gaqceuli milion-

ze meti saqarTvelos moqa-

laqe amaTi mowinaaRmdegea.

mere kidev, rogor SeiZleba,

rom cixeSi patimari da

probacioneri amaTi momxre

iyos, Tu najaxiT ar adganan

Tavze, (brladebulTa 70%

viciT, rom usafuZvlod

zis) an maTi ojaxis wevrebi

_ es yvelaferi daTvlilia

da amas analizi gaukeTdeba.

prevenciuli zomebi miRebu-

lia, nu ggoniaT, rom ase

miSvebulebi arian... ar aris

ase martivad saqme, mTeli

msoflio dadgeba fexze...

__ kkaarrggiiTT rraa,, rroommeellii

mmssoofflliioo,, mmxxoolloodd aaRRSSffooTTee-

bbaass ddaa SSeeSSffooTTeebbaass rroomm ggaa-

mmooTTqqvvaammss CCvveennss uubbeedduurreebbaazzee??

_ Cven saubari imiT da-

viwyeT, vendobi Tu ara amaT

gamokvlevebs da damkvirveb-

lebs _ ar vendobi, imitom,

rom maqvs praqtika, scemes

qali da kargad Catarda yve-

laferio, magram dRes aRar

dauWeren mxars. Zalian bev-

ri ucxoeli Camodis, Zalian

bevr ucxoelTan saubrobs

biZina da saubroben Cemi ko-

legebi – gaocebuli arian

ucxoelebi, aRar aris is

ganwyoba, rom es Suquraa

demokratiis... ki, roca iyv-

nen davalebiT, Tvals xuWav-

dnen bevr rameze, magram

aRar aris ase – ratom moc-

vivda yvela aq?

__ rreeaalluurr SSeeddeeggaammddee mmaa-

iinncc vveerr SSeemmaaccvvlleevviinneebbTT aazzrrss

__ xxeelliissuufflleebbiiss ggaassaammxxnneevveebb-

llaadd..

msoflio akvirdeba am

arCevnebs – faqtebs davu-

debT win, rom gayalbebulia.

manamde 29-Si gamovalT...

yvela saarCevno ubanTan

xalxi idgeba. iq iqnebian ara

mxolod komisiis wevrebi,

damkvirveblebi, aramed 4-5

adamiani, Cven magas vTxou-

lobT, romelic dawers ram-

deni kaci Sevida. 200 kaci

rom Sevida, 1200 iyoo, ver

dawers...

xalxma unda icodes, rom

bevr rames veRar gabedaven

da tyuian, roca amboben,

Cven ukve mogebuli gvaqvso.

amas imitom acxadeben, rom

xalxi SeSindes, xelisuf-

lebaSi isev eseni rCebiano _

ar aris ase da daijereT!

axla imis realuri Sansi

gagviCnda, rom SegviZlia

Cveni qveyana, Cveni Svilebi

da SviliSvilebi gadavarCi-

noT da mere, SeiZleba, es

Sansi aRar iyos, gadaaylape-

ben eseni da gadagvylapaven

kidec es didi saxelmwifoe-

bi Tavis interesebiT. Sansi

gagviCnda, rom iseTi kaci

gvyavdes xelmZRvanelad, ro-

melic xalxs eyvareba, aTas

sikeTes gaakeTebs, marTla

amogvwevs am Waobidan, davad-

gebiT im gzas, romelic sa-

qarTvelos arnaxuli rene-

sansisken wagviyvans. or-sam

welSi saqarTvelos veRar

icnobT _ vici misi gegmebi.

__ rruusseeTTiiss ffaaqqttoorrzzee rraass

iittyyvviiTT..

_ ruseTisTvis saqarTve-

los dakargva Zalian prob-

lematuri gaxdeba. upirve-

lesad is vTqvaT, rom ruse-

Ti yovelTvis dampyrobeli

qveyana iyo da aseTad rCeba

dRemde miwebis mitacebis

didostatad, ager kuriliis

kunZulebs 50 welia ar

Tmobs, avadmyofoba aqvs ase-

Ti, magram daTmobs Cvens te-

ritoriebs, amis yvela mona-

cemi arsebobs...

__ aarr vviiccii,, rraass gguulliissxx-

mmoobbTT,, mmaaggrraamm mmeezzoobbeell qqvveeyyaa-

nnaassTTaann rroomm nnoorrmmaalluurrii ddiipp-

lloommaattiiuurrii uurrTTiieerrTToobbaa uunn-

ddaa ggvvqqoonnddeess,, eess uuddaavvooaa......

_ meorec, vTqvaT, ekono-

mikis mxriv, aseTi istorie-

biT ras mivaRwevT?

__ eerrTTii rraamm aaxxsseenniiTT,, rraacc

rraamm hhqqoonnddaa ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss,,

vvgguulliissxxmmoobb ssttrraatteeggiiuull

oobbiieeqqtteebbss,, yyvveellaaffeerrii rruusseeTT-

zzeeaa ggaaddaacceemmuullii ddaa rraattoommRRaaaa

SSeerraaccxxuullii mmttrraadd??

_ amaTTvis, Cemo kargo,

sul erTia, vin iqneba da ras

mihyidis, vinc mets miscems,

yvelafers imas mihyidis. aq-

vea, mezoblad, ruseTma dai-

naxa amaTi es sisuste da

dro ixelTa. eseni rom xe-

lisuflebaSi darCnen, kidev

bevr rames mihyidis... ruse-

TisTvis gadacemuli Zalian

bevri obieqtis gamosyidvas

da saqarTvelosTvis datove-

bas apirebs biZina.

__ rrkkiinniiggzzaa ddaa ggaazzssaaddeennii-

RRaa ddaaggvvrrCCaa,, ssxxvvaa rraaRRaa ddaaggvv-

rrCCaa rruusseeTTiissTTvviiss ssaaiinntteerree-

ssoo......

_ dagvrCa, Zalian didi

resursi dagvrCa. wyali! _

wyali ar unda gaiyidos! 5-6

wlis Semdeg navTobze gaci-

lebiT Zviri iqneba wyali...

mag Temaze bevria salaparako

_ Cven xom arc is viciT ra

da rogor gaiyida – engur-

hesis SeTanxmeba viciT, hese-

bi rom Sendeba, SeTanxmebis

pirobebi viciT? _ ar aris

sajaro, magram es yvelaferi

gamoaSkaravdeba da movTxovT

pasuxs, amitom arian dafeTe-

bulni.

__ kkuuTTxxeeSSii mmiimmwwyyvvddeeuullii

aaggrreessiiuullii aaddaammiiaannii ggaacciillee-

bbiiTT aaggrreessiiuullii xxddeebbaa......

_ Sedegi? ra miiRes ax-

lo aRmosavleTSi – es axla

xmaurobs, Torem mSiSaraa,

msoflios aqvs nanaxi misi

samarcxvino kadrebi. arCevne-

bamde boboqroben, rom xalxi

daSindes, Torem arafris Ta-

vi aRar aqvT, miT ufro imis,

rom msoflios daupirispir-

dnen...

maia WeliZe

8 welia xelisuflebaSi rom

xar da ase 500, 700 an 600 (mi-

Sam daawyo ase) aTasi adamianis

mets rom ver miiyvan (gamoiyvan)

aqciaze, aSkarad wagebuli gaqvs... ratom?

6 Tvis CanasaxSi myof partias 200 -250

aTasi adamiani ar unda gamoyavdes Sen rom

kargi iyo da imitooom... gaigeviT?

ise.. am beCavma (gnebavT, bedSavma)

,rogor yvelaferi biZinaCemisgan

gadaiRo, maisurebi, es qalaqebSi

Sexvedrebi... magram naZaladevis

da SaSinebulis.... ojaxTan Caxuteba mere?

:)) erTi bavSvebs ver gaarepina da beraze

daiboRma :))) amxela oylayi baRanaze rom

daiboRmeba!!!!!!!!!!!! gana marto garepvis una-

ri da niWi, beras dedac Surs, mamac, oja-

xic da yvelaferi, rac mag bedSavs bavS-

vobaSic ar hqonia!

aq viRaceebs marTla hgonia, rom

dRes, xalxi, nebayoflobiT mivi-

da nacmos yrilobaze, Tu Tavs

iStereben? ui, quTaisSi “ocne-

baze” meti ver Sekriba.

visac aiZuleben mobiluriT ga-

daiRon Semoxazuli 5-ani. Semo-

xazeT 5-ani, gadauReT mobiliT,

mere gadaxazeT, gaafuWeT biu-

leteni. visac aiZuleben ukve gamzadebuli,

5-an Semoxazuli biuleteni Seitanon da

sanacvlod carieli gamoitanon. SegaqvT 5-

an Semoxazuli biuleteni, amave biule-

tens afuWebT da gamogaqvT carieli biu-

leteni.

quTaiselma megobarma damireka.

saswauli ambavi xdebodao. dav-

diodi im xalxSi da sanTliT

veZebdi quTaislebso. maSrutke-

biT Camoyvanilebi iyvnen yvelao. Semecod-

neno, mSivrebi, natanjebi da damorcxvebu-

lebi. mag SantaJists xmas rogor mivcem-

To.

dRes TbilisSi bevri xalxi

darboda maisurebiT ”me miyvars

saqarTvelo”.... Tqve dalocvile-

bo Tu ase giyvarT saqarTvelo,

ratom garbodiT 2008 wlis agvistoSi

Tbilisidan? an ratom gaiqeciT imitire-

buli qronikis Semdeg? suli ufro tkbi-

lia ara? arafers gsayvedurobT! magram nu

damimtkicebT, rom Cemze magrad giyvarT es

qveyana

yvela sakvanZo persona ucxoeTi-

Tan iyo Camosuli erTi konke-

tuli mowodebiT-arCevnebi Ca-

tardes samarTlianad, gviTxres,

rom es iqneba lakmusis testi, yrilobaze

kidev miSa misi gundianad xmamaRla acxa-

debs rom egRa aklia xelisufleba mumi-

ebs gadaabaros da rom ar dauSvebs xal-

xis gamosvlas da eqneba meti sargebeli

xalxs. hoda, sul ufro ikveTeba nacmos

ganzraxva arCevnebis totalurad gaprave-

bis, mere represiebis, im xalxis, vinc ga-

bedavs da gaaprotestebs, mokled siamov-

nebiT gaviRviZebdi noembris 1-Si ukeTesi

momavlis imediT

xalxis azriT

8 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

`saerTo gazeTis~ mkiTx-

vels emaxsovreba Cemi da Cemi

Zmobili qisti maxmad margoS-

vils saubrebi, pankisis xeoba-

Si momZlavrebuli vahabituri

moZraobebis Sesaxeb.

`vgrZnob, xeobaSi xelovnu-

rad Canergili vahabizmi, ara

mxolod Cven, pankisel qis-

tebs, aramed Cvens samezoblo-

Si mosaxle qarTvelebsac did

problemebs Seuqmnis, amitom

saerTo Wirs axlave Tu ar

mivxedeT, Semdeg gviani iqneba

da sisxlic daiRvrebao~-o Se-

modgomaa... saqarTvelos xeli-

sufleba da mosaxleoba erTd-

roulad imkis im codvebs, rac

pankisis xeobaSi 90-iani wle-

bis dros CaiTesa, e.i. grZel-

vadian SuRls, grZelvadian ga-

ugebrobas da aseve grZelvadi-

an sisxlian dapirispirebas. es

mxolod mcire nawilia im Ca-

moTvlili Wirisa, rasac 84

wlis uxucesi CemTan intervi-

uebSi cremlmoreuli aRniS-

navda da aha, Turme ra marTa-

li yofila?!

iqneb icis vinmem saqarTve-

los dedaqalaq TbilisSi, res-

publikur saavadmyofoSi ra

`damsaxurebebisTvis~ mkurna-

lobda saerTaSoriso tero-

risti doku umarovi, romelic

TviT `rusTavi-2~ ki daafiqsi-

ra Tavis videokameriT da

Cvenc gvaCvena?! metic, 2011

wlis 26 maiss, amerikis Seer-

Tebuli Statebis saxelmwifo

departamenti `kavkasiis ima-

rats~ teroristul organiza-

ciad rom acxadebs da aq, sa-

qarTveloSi, `imaratis~ araer-

Ti xelmZRvanelis, araerTi

mebrZolis uvneblad gadaadgi-

lebis momswre rom xdeba _ ar

aris logikuri, daisvas kiTx-

va _ saakaSvili ukanonod Sei-

araRebul jgufebad kavSirSi

xom ar aris da rogor xdeba

isic, rom amerikis viTomcda

mokavSire saqarTvelos xeli-

sufleba sinamdvileSi rusuli

gegmis nawilad iqca?

zustad 3 wlis win ruse-

Tis oficialurma warmomadge-

nelma `natoSi~ dimitri ro-

gozinma, CemTan interviuSi

gancvifreba ver damala saqar-

Tvelos xelisuflebis siTav-

xedeze imis gamo, rom saqarT-

velos xelisufleba aSkarad

da urcxvad TbilisSi saerTa-

Soriso terorist doku uma-

rovs mfarvelobda da misTvis

rusi samxedroebis mier nasro-

li tyviiT miyenebuli Wrilo-

bebis moSuSebaSi exmareboda!!!

igive interviuSi, dimitri ro-

gozini saqarTvelos xelisuf-

lebas afrTxilebda, rom ru-

seTisTvis cnobili iyo, saa-

kaSvilis keTilganwyobiT Seq-

mnili bandformirebebis Sesa-

xeb da metic, batoni rogozi-

ni, imasac ambobda, rom maTTvi-

sac cnobili iyo saqarTvelos

teritoriaze im `banakebis~

adgilmdebareoba, sadac `boe-

vikebi~ iwvrTnebodnen da bazi-

rebdnen!!!

raoden gasakviric ar unda

iyos, maSin igive informaciebs

flobdnen rigiTi pankiselebic

da rigiTi lafanyurelebic,

magram isini rogozinisgan gan-

sxvavebiT, ukanono formirebe-

bis kontrolSi, rogorc qar-

Tvel Zalovanebs, ise ruseTis

specsamsaxurebsac adanaSau-

lebdnen.

`saerTo gazeTis~ mkiTx-

vels kargad moexseneba, rom

kaxeli var da logikurad, sa-

qarTvelos am kuTxeSi ufro

meti nacnobi myavs, vidre sxva-

gan... vicnob glexsac, maswav-

lebelsac, eqimsac da im `na-

cebsac~, romelTac Sublis

ZarRvi jer bolomde ar gawy-

vetiaT. rogorc werilis da-

sawyisSive avRniSne, saukeTeso

urTierTobebi mqonda da maqvs,

ZirZvel qistebTan _ margoSvi-

lebTan, xangoSvilebTan, cixe-

saSvilebTan da a.S. hoda 18 ag-

vistos sisxliani movlenebis

Semdeg, rasakvirvelia, davu-

kavSirdi am adamianebs, wvri-

lad gamovkiTxe, ra moxda, ra

situacia iyo im xanad xeobaSi

da maTzec xom ar iyo zewola

_ Cumad yofiliyvnen?

Cems pirvel SekiTxvaze _

icodnen Tu ara, vin iyvnen

moklulebi? mipasuxes, rom _

icodnen! isec miTxres, rom es

biWebi ramdenime dRis win Ca-

movidnen, ufro sworad, Camo-

iyvanes.

vin Camoiyvana? _ SevekiTxe

me...

_ visTanac am wle-

bis ganmavlobaSi ur-

TierToba hqondaT, saq-

miani urTierToba!

xvdebi, xom?

micvalebulebi vinc

arian, yvela daasafla-

veT?

_ yvela ara, ar

gvaZleven!

_ ratom ar iZlevi-

an, xom ar uTqvamT? _

SevekiTxe me...

_ vinc gadmogvces,

isinic sul dacxrilulebi

arian, TiTqos daxvriteso, aki,

aCvenes, `spalnimeSokebSi~ iyv-

nen isev, eZinaT da daxvrites.

saceriviT aqvT tani. tyeSi,

Tanac brZolaSi, es gamo-

ricxulia... `imaT gviTxres,

didi ambavi da samZimrebi ar

gindaT, CumaT ubralod daa-

saflaveTo! ar gamova eg amba-

vi, ara... amaT saqoneli vgoni-

varT, pirutyvebi...

axla, axla ra viTarebaa

mand, siwynarea?

_ amas Tu siwynare hqvia...

axalgazrdebi dagvixvrites.

gveubnebian, xma ar amoiRoT

Torem, Tqvenc igive mogivaTo

da gvaxseneben im dros, roca

Cven udanaSaulo axalgazrdo-

ba aq pankisSi sakuTar ezoeb-

Si daxoces da aafeTqes. eee,

rac Cven gadavitaneT, ena ver

ityvis. ar SevarCenT arc pet-

res da arc danarCenebs am am-

bavs...

_ xalxi ras ambobs, qarT-

velebze Zalian gabrazebulebi

arian?

_ Cemo dao, xalxma ra da-

aSava, an qarTvelma da an qis-

tma? Cven ubralo xalxi mar-

to Wirisuflebad gvaqcia saa-

kaSvilmac da putinmac! aba,

Sexede qarTvel da qist mok-

lulebs, TiTqos erTi dedis

Svilebi ariano, iseTi lamaze-

bi, iseTi jiSianebi arian! ub-

ralo qarTvelebis mimarT ra

pretenziebi unda gvqondes?

ra, qarTvelma mSoblebma

icodnen da ician risTvis mo-

ukles Svilebi?

ratom iyvnen saceriviT

dacxriluli qisti da CeCeni

mebrZolebi? anda ras niSnavda

`rusTavi-2~-is naCvenebi is

kadrebi, romelSic naTlad

Cans, rom zogierTi `boeviki~

isev saZile tomaraSia da ara

romelime xesTan Casafrebul

mdgomareobaSi?

nuTu marTla miparviT da

muxanaTurad Cacxrila es

axalgazrdebi, Cvenma naqebma

specdaniSnulebis batalionma?

es Tu marTlac ase moxda _ ra

hqvia amas da ra gagrZeleba

SeiZleba mohyves yovelives, ar

unda gvafiqrebdes?

rac yvelaze mniSvnelovania

sazogadoebas ratom gvimalaven

im danarCeni `diversantebis~

vinaobas, visi gvamebic prozeq-

turaSi aqvT gamoketili da

imazec arafers gveubnebian, am-

Jamad modulis SenobaSi ram-

den `diversants~ urtyamen `a-

RiarebiTi Cvenebis~ miRebis

molodinio?

Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo! ucna-

urad ar geCvenebaT, rom uax-

lesi iaraRebiT aRWurvili

adamianebis jgufs karga xniT

adrec xedavdnen lafanyurele-

bi da pankiselebi? metic, isi-

ni ara mxolod aq mcxovreb

adamianebTan Sediodnen kontaq-

tSi, aramed ZalovanebTanac?

mTeli am xnis ganmavlobaSi

ratom ar aiyvanes mZevlebi maT

da roca viTom aiyvanes, fu-

li aCuqes, samxedro `baTin-

kic~ aCuqes da ise gamouSves?

ratom iZaxis erT-erTi

`mrevlis~ mezobeli kaci _ eg,

biWebi suyvela `nac.moZraobis

wevrebi~ arian da mZevladac

aravisa hyoliao?~

dameTanxmeT, rom ruseTis

xelisuflebis dumi-

li, CeCneTis xeli-

suflebis dumili, sa-

qarTvelos xelisuf-

lebisa da misi opozi-

ciis dumili `lafan-

yuris omis~ Sesaxeb

imaze met kiTxvas ba-

debs, vidre dasasme-

lia da vkiTxulob ki-

dec _ amjeradac, yve-

lam erTad, ruseTis

Canafiqrs, gegmebs xom

ar Seuwyo xeli Semd-

gomi moqmedebisTvis

da lopotidan `lopota~-s

(rusulad-gancxroma, netareba)

mdgomareobaSi xom ar Caagdo

kremlis mesveurebi `barambos~

kanfetebis TanxlebiT?

erTaderTi, rac am sisxlian

tragediaSi mkafiod gamoikveTa,

is aris, rom moklulia 14 ada-

miani, 3 qarTveli jariskaci da

11 e.w. diversanti, romelTa sis-

xlsac aravis SearCenen Crdi-

lokavkasielebi da romlebmac

swored amitom gamoucxades

`jihadi~ _saakaSvils, merabiS-

vils, axalaias da SaSkins.

Tanac, rogorc qistebi, ise

lafanyurelebi pirad saubreb-

Si Riad acxadeben, rom arafe-

ri ar damTavrebula, piriqiT

yvelaferi axla daiwyo da

verdiqti gamotaniliao. daak-

virdiT? 14 adamiani imsxverp-

la satanam, mariamoba dRes!

astrologiur cifrTa ga-

daangariSebiT ki, naxeT, ro-

gor gamodis?

14 es cifri aris 1-ianisa

da oTxianis erToblioba. jam-

Si ki 1+4 tolia 5-is da ne-

tav, vin arian am cifris mot-

rfialeebi?

diax, nacmoZraobis sayvare-

li cifria 5 da axla dafiqr-

diT, SemTxveviTia es?

irine gogosaSvili

lafanyuri _ saqarTvelos bermudis samkuTxedi

`qarTulma ocnebam~ sasamarTloSi sarCeli Seitana

blokma „biZina ivaniSvili - qar-

Tuli ocneba“ saqarTvelos sakonsu-

loebSi emigrantebis amomrCevlebad

daregistrirebis wesis gamartivebis

moTxovniT, cesko–s winaaRmdeg sasa-

marTloSi sarCeli Seitana.

sarCeli Tbilisis saqalaqo sasa-

marTloSi “qarTuli ocnebis“ warmo-

madgenelma zurab maraqveliZem Seita-

na.

misi TqmiT, saqarTvelos centra-

luri saarCevno komisiis 9 seqtembris dadgenilebis Tanaxmad,

ucxoeTSi mcxovrebi qarTvelebi amomrCevlad dasaregistirireb-

lad uSualod unda gamocxadnen registraciis adgilas, rac maT

seriozul barierebs uqmnis.

rogorc maraqveliZe ganmartavs, 9 seqtembris dadgenilebiT,

magaliTad, milanSi da italiis sxva qalaqebSi mcxovrebma qarT-

velebma registracia saelCoSi, anu romSi unda gaiaron. iq Ca-

sasvlelad ki erT samuSao dRis dakargva mouwevT, rac maT prob-

lemebs Seuqmnis.

„aRniSnuli barieri xelovnuradaa Seqmnili. moqalaqeebs dare-

gistrirebis saSualeba fostiT unda miscemodaT, sabuTebs Seag-

rovebdnen da fostiT gagzavnidnen. magram cesko–m procedura ga-

arTula. „qarTuli ocneba“ ceskos am gadawyvetilebas asaCivrebs

da moiTxovs, rom ucxoeTSi mcxovreb Tanamemamuleebs mieceT sa-

Sualeba, damatebiTi dabrkolebis gareSe miiRon monawileoba ar-

CevnebSi“, – ganacxada maraqveliZem.

`qarTuli dasi~ 2 oqtombridan aqciebs iwyebspolitikuri partia ”qarTuli da-

si” 2 oqtombridan aqciebs iwyebs.

rogorc dRes gamarTul preskon-

ferenciaze partiis liderma jondi

baRaTuriam ganacxada, aqciebi, saxel-

wodebiT ,,daicavi sakuTari xma“ per-

mamentuli iqneba.

misive TqmiT, aqciebi 23 dRis gan-

mavlobaSi Tbilisisa da quTaisSi par-

lamentis SenobebTan, aseve preziden-

tis rezidenciasTan gaimarTeba.

rogorc man aRniSna, aqciebi im SemTxvevaSic gaimarTeba, Tu ga-

mocxadebuli maCveneblebi arCevnebis realur Sedegebs ar asaxa-

vs.

,,Tematuri xasiaTis aqciebi arCevnebis realuri Sedegebis ga-

moqveynebas, konstituciuri wyobis dacvas da qveyanaSi stabilu-

robis dacvas emsaxureba,” - ganacxada baRaTuriam

aqciis Catarebis nebarTvis misaRebad Tbilisisa da quTaisis

merebs ”qarTuli dasis” warmomadgenlebi ganacxadebiT xval mi-

marTaven.

`medianiusi~

9saerTo gazeTi#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

erT-eerTi yvelaze warmmate-

buli sawarmmos, saaqccio sazo-

gaddoeba `̀WiaTurmmanganummis~~

gakotrebis anatommiis, farTo

sazogaddoebisaTvis uccnob dde-

talebze politikuri koali-

ccia `̀biZina ivaniSvili-qqarTu-

li occnebis~~ WiaTuris mmaJori-

tari ddeputatobis kanddiddati

malxaz wereTeli gvesa-

ubreba.

_ batono malxaz, yovelg-

vari familarobis gareSe min-

da mogmarToT: Tqveni ganvli-

li gziT, cxovrebis wesiT,

adamianuri TvisebebiT WiaTu-

raSi erT-eerT gamorCeuli pi-

rovneba brZandebiT. ramdenad

sakmarisia es, rom parlament-

Si WiaTurelTa rCeuli gax-

deT?

_ gmadlobT, aseTi Sefase-

bisaTvis. meuxerxuleba saku-

Tar Tavze laparaki, magram ma-

inc Sevecdebi gipasuxoT.

politikaSi axalfexadgmu-

li ar meTqmis _ wlebia, Wia-

Turis municipalitetis sakr-

ebulos wevri var. Cemi war-

suliTac SemiZlia viamayo,

Tumca Cemi, rogorc deputa-

tobis kandidatis upirateso-

bas (mepatios pirdapiroba)

erTi ramec ganapirobebs.

me, malxaz wereTeli, viq-

nebi saaqcio sazogadoeba `Wi-

aTurmanganumis~ im 12 aTasze

meti aqcioneris uflebaTa

damcveli saqarTvelos parla-

mentSi, romlebic am sawarmos

xelovnurad gakotrebis

msxverplni gaxdnen. aseTi me-

TodiT gakotrebam mZime dar-

tyma miayena `WiaTurmanganu-

mis~ aqcionerebis qonebriv

mdgomareobas, rac maTi ojaxe-

bisTvis dRemde mouSuSebeli

Wrilobaa.

saqarTvelos parlamentis

wevrad arCevis SemTxvevaSi,

erT-erTi upirvelesi sazru-

navi am aqcionerTa uflebebis

aRdgena iqneba _ yvelafers

viRoneb, rom Seiqmnas sapar-

lamento komisia `WiaTurman-

ganumis~ gakotrebis detale-

bis dasadgenad da samarTlia-

nobis aRsadgenad.

aqve ganvmartav: am saqmis

gamoZieba xels ar SeuSlis

Sps `jorjian manganezis~ sam-

To gamamdidrebeli kombinatis

muSaobas, romelic `WiaTur-

manganumis~ qonebis bazaze ag-

rZelebs muSaobas, Tumca misi

samarTalmemkvidre ar aris.

_ iqneb mkiTxvels ufro

detalurad ganumartoT, ro-

gor gaakotres `WiaTurmanga-

numi~ xelovnurad?

_ saaqcio sazoga-

doeba `WiaTurmanganu-

mis~ qonebaze gakotre-

bis saqmis wamowyebis

Semdeg maleve, sasamar-

Tlos ganCinebiT, sa-

warmo reabilitaciis

reJimze gadaiyvanes. ramdenime

Tvis ganmavlobaSi manganumis

mopoveba da mTlianad sawar-

moo procesi, erTi SexedviT,

Cveulebriv reJimSi Cadga...

magram maleve kvlav daiwyo

gakotrebis saqmis warmoeba.

gakotrebis mmarTvelad Tbi-

lisis saxelmwifo universi-

tetis profesori, advokati

roin migriauli daniSnes. mis

saxelTan aris dakavSirebuli

saqarTveloSi samarTlis am

dargis ganviTareba. vfiqrob-

diT, rom cnobil iurists

saqmis gamrudebulad warmarT-

vas veravin gaubedavda.

batoni roin migriauli,

rogorc mosalodneli iyo,

Seudga dakisrebuli movaleo-

bis kvalificiurad Sesrule-

bas, `gakotrebis saqmeTa war-

moebis Sesaxeb~ saqarTvelos

imdroindeli kanonis Sesabami-

sad, rac iTvaliswinebs: mZime

ekonomikur mdgomareobaSi Ca-

vardnili movalis ekonomiku-

ri da finansuri siZneleebis

gadawyvetas, agreTve misi kre-

ditorebis interesebis maqsi-

malurad dakmayofilebas. saq-

mis warmoeba movalis gadarCe-

na-gajansaRebamde unda misu-

liyo... magram saqme sxvagvarad

warimarTa.

ar vici, ra weria oficia-

lur dokumentebSi, ra mize-

ziT datova roin migriaulma

gakotrebis mmarTvelis Tanam-

deboba daniSvnidan or TveSi,

magram cnobilia realuri mo-

tivi _ man igrZno, rom igi

SesaZloa, antisaxelmwifoeb-

rivi saqmianobis monawile gam-

xdariyo, Tuki `WiaTurmanga-

numis~ aqciaTa sakontrolo

paketis mflobelis _ ekono-

mikis saministros nebas daTan-

xmdeboda.... axal mmarTvelad

iuristi daviT kakabaZe dai-

niSna...

_ intervius SesavalSive

aRniSneT, rom sawarmos ga-

kotrebiT dartyma miiRo 12

aTasze metma aqcionerma. ro-

dis da rogor gaxdnen isini

aqcionerebi?

_ XX saukunis 90-ian

wlebSi, rodesac Cvens qveyana-

Si privatizebis procesi da-

iwyo, sawarmo gaerTianeba `Wi-

aTurmanganumi~ gardaiqmna sa-

aqcio sazogadoebad, romlis

aqciaTa 100 procenti saxel-

mwifos sakuTrebas warmoad-

genda. prezident eduard Se-

vardnaZis brZanebulebiT, am

aqciaTa sami procenti Sromi-

Ti koleqtivis 12 aTasze met

TanamSromels usasyidlod ga-

daeca. maSin TiToeuli aqciis

nominaluri Rirebuleba erT

lars Seadgenda. 2004-2005

wlebidan moyolebuli, WiaTu-

ris manganumze msoflio ba-

zarze moTxovna TandaTan izr-

deboda, Sesabamisad, aqciaTa

fasmac mkveTrad moimata. spe-

cialistebis daskvnebiT, `Wia-

Turmanganumis~ xelovnuri ga-

kotreba rom ara, aqciaTa 3

procentis sabazro Rirebule-

ba dRes milionobiT dolari

iqneboda.

ase rom, rodesac `WiaTur-

manganumis~ qonebaze gakotre-

bis saqmis warmoeba gaixsna,

amiT movalis ekonomikuri siZ-

neleebis daZleva ki ar iyo

ganzraxuli, aramed, Turme,

imTaviTve sawarmos likvida-

cia igegmeboda.

12 aTasze meti aqcioneris

vinaoba (saxelebi, gvarebi,

sacxovrebeli adgilis misa-

marTebi da sxva) dResac aris

dafiqsirebuli fasiani qaRal-

debis registratoris monace-

mebsa da Sesabamis sxva doku-

mentaciaSi.

_ da uflebaSelaxuli,

qonebawarTmeuli aqcionerebi-

saTvis cnobili araferia?

_ maT yvelaferi Cinebu-

lad ician, maT Soris _ eko-

nomikis saministros erT-erTi

maRalCinosnis cinikuri xum-

robis Sesaxeb: `WiaTurmanga-

numis~ gakotrebasTan dakavSi-

rebiT erT-erT TaTbirze mas

uTqvams: 12 aTas aqcioners

maTsave samuSao iaraRebs gava-

qonineb, maTze davsvam da ise

movisvrio... amJamad bevri aq-

cioneri jer kidev manganumis

mrewvelobaSi muSaobs (ro-

gorc ukve aRvniSne, am bizness

Sps `jorjian manganezi~ agr-

Zelebs) da samuSaos dakarg-

vis SiSiT pirSi wylis Cagu-

bebas amjobinebs.

rac Seexeba maRalCinosnis

danaqadebs, man sityva Seasru-

la, marTlac `moisrola~ 12

aTasze meti aqcioneri, ro-

melTac xelT faratina qa-

RaldebiRa SerCaT. im 12 aTas

`mosrolil~ aqcioneTa Soris

iyvnen sawarmoo marcxiT dain-

validebuli adamianebi, regre-

sis pensionerebi (bevri maTga-

ni invalidis etls dRemdea

mijaWvuli), romlebic mize-

ruli saxelmwifo pensiis ime-

dad darCnen. mkiTxvels Sevax-

seneb, rom mimdinare wlis ap-

rilSi batoni biZina ivaniSvi-

li regresis pensionerebs

Sexvda da daxmareba aRuTqva.

koaliciis programis es nawi-

li praqtikulad gadawyveti-

lia.

`mosrolilma~ aqcionereb-

ma ician, rom aravis araferi

gaukeTebia imisaTvis, rom ga-

kotrebis saqmis warmoeba

likvidaciiT ki ara, reabili-

taciiT damTavrebuliyo. maTT-

vis isic kargad aris cnobi-

li, rom ekonomikis saminist-

ros zewolis gamo, sasamarT-

loSi valauvali movalis mi-

er, arc erTi kerZo saCivari,

arc erTi morigebis gancxade-

ba ar Sesula.

vidre momdevno kiTxvaze

gadavidodeT, mciredi gadaxve-

va; prezidenti saakaSvili sa-

televizio gamosvlebisas xSi-

rad imeorebs _ CvenTan ar mo-

ipoveba navTobi da bunebrivi

airi, amitom Cveni qveyana eko-

nomikurad Zlieri ar ariso.

erTi suli maqvs am dros

sityva Sevawyvetino da Sevax-

seno:

batono prezidento, sama-

gierod Cven gvaqvs unikaluri

fizikuri da qimiuri Tvisebe-

biT gamorCeuli WiaTuris man-

ganumi, romlis warmoebis Se-

degad miRebuli milionobiT

dolaris mogeba, sadRac

Sors, kviprosis ofSoruli

zonis bankebSi, iqve daregist-

rirebuli kompaniis angariSze

iricxeba, romlis damfuZne-

belTa vinaoba gasaidumloebu-

lia.

ase rom, Cveni qveynisa da

xalxis ekonomikuri uZlure-

bis mizezi bunebrivi resurse-

bis nakleboba ki ara, elitu-

ri korufciaa.

_ rogorRa gagrZelda `Wi-

aTurmanganumis~ gakotrebis

saqmis warmoeba?

_ gakotrebis warmoebis

procesSi (2005-2008 wlebi),

lamis yoveldRiurad izrde-

boda moTxovna WiaTuris man-

ganumze da matulobda sasa-

qonlo produqciis realiza-

ciac. amas statistikis erov-

nuli samsaxuris monacemebic

adasturebs. arsebobda iuri-

diuli da realuri faqtobri-

vi safuZvlebi imisa, rom mom-

xdariyo `WiaTurmanganumis~

reabilitacia. es procesi sa-

bolood daasrula 2008

wlis 4 ivliss saCxeris rai-

onulma sasamarTlom (mosamar-

Tle _ malxaz CubiniZe, sxdo-

mis mdivani _ nino CixeliZe):

`WiaTurmanganumis~ mimarT ga-

kotrebis saqmis warmoeba das-

rulebulad cno; sawarmo ga-

kotrebulad gamoacxades da

samewarmeo reestridan amoi-

Res. ai, finali aSkara ukano-

no epopeisa!

kidev erTxel vimeoreb: aq-

cionerebs, vinc TavianTi jan-

mrTeloba da axalgazrdoba

`WiaTurmanganumis~ warmate-

bul sawarmod Camoyalibebas

Seswira, xelT faratina qa-

Raldi SerCaT. sawarmoo simZ-

lavreebi: gamamdidrebeli fab-

rikebi, maRaroebi, avtosat-

ransporto parki, unikaluri

wiaRiT mdidari sabadoebi la-

mis saCuqrad gadaeca Sps

`jorjian manganezs~, romlis

damfuZnebeli kviprosis of-

Sorul zonaSi daregistrire-

buli kompaniaa.

_ batono malxaz, Cveni in-

terviu pesimistur notze

mTavrdeba?

_ ras brZanebT, arasodes

vyofilvar pesimisti! vici,

TviTon qalaq WiaTuraSi, mis

rionebSi, soflebSi uamravi

problemaa mosagvarebeli. qa-

laqi TiTqos sasmeli wylis

resursebis naklebobas ar ga-

nicdis, magram sruliad mou-

wesrigebelia wyalmomaragebis

sistema, romelzec ukve sam

milionamde laria daxarju-

li.

Tuki deputatad amirCeven,

`Savi oqros~ qalaqSi priori-

tetuli iqneba garemos dacvis

sakiTxebi, miwisZvriTa da mi-

wisqveSa samTo samuSaoebis

warmoebisas dazaralebulTa

uflebebis dacva, soflis me-

urneobis ganviTareba... me mzad

var, am problemebis mosagva-

reblad, WiaTurelTa intere-

sebis dasacavad...

neba momeciT, es interviu

biZina ivaniSvilis gamonaTqva-

miT davasrulo: `Cven davam-

TavrebT saqarTveloSi sabWo-

eTis epoqas, tyuilebis epo-

qas! elitaruli korufciis

epoqas! usamarTlobisa da una-

musobis epoqas! saqarTveloSi

patiosnebis dro modis!~

Tamaz TofuriZe

malxaz wereTeli:malxaz wereTeli: `WiaTurmanganumis~

xelovnuri gakotreba 12 000 aqcionerisa

da maTi ojaxis wevrebisaTvis mudmiv

da mouSuSebel Wrilobad darCeba...

10 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

luis navarosTan mimarTebaSi mxo-

lod erTaderTi gamosavali arse-

bobs- samarcxvinod gavaZevoT sa-

qarTvelodan. gavaZevoT ise, rom

momavalSi verc erTma moxalise navarom

veRar SeZlos qarTveli xalxisTvis Tavze

dafurTxeba. vfiqrob, rom saprotesto

kampaniis mTavar RerZad unda iqces aqcie-

bis organizeba NDI-is da sxva ofisebis

win. axla, ra Tqma unda, gamoxteba zogi-

erTi opozicioneri politikosi, Tu po-

litikosobis msurveli da ityvis, rom es

procesisTvis xelis SeSlaa...:))) daiwyeT

aqciebis organizeba im gayalbebisa da tyu-

ilis winaaRmdeg, rasac navaroebi gvaxeven

Tavs. es kriminalia. aqciebis organizeba ki

araa danaSauli _ Cveni mTavari uflebaa.

Zvelad qarTvelebi Zalian dafa-

sebulebi vyofilvarT! lekebi

mogvitacebdnen Tu ara maSinve

stambolis bazarze gavyavdiT, sa-

dac taciaoba tydeboda Cvenze, ara me un-

da viyido, ara - meo! axla mazanda dagvi-

varda, SeiZleba ki SemovetacoT vinmes, ma-

ra muStari aRar gvyavs, amitom gvaWmeven,

gvacmeven, jibis fuls gvaZleven da ukan

gvabruneben. am pirobebSi iavnanam ra unda

qnas?!

yriloba iyo formiT viTom ameri-

kuli (rogorc albaT, SeukveTa

miSam Tavis piarSCikebs) da Sina-

arsiT – sufTa komunistur–bol-

Sevikuri. teqstebidan gamomdinare Tu vim-

sjelebT, marTla cudad aqvT etyoba, saq-

me, Cveulebrivze meti tyuili da cilis-

wameba dasWirdaT! Tan nametani xmaCaxleCi-

lebi Rrialebdnen.

ara marto ”leninizm-neobolSe-

vizmis” - sruli marazmis karna-

valia ” heil hitler-is winam-

ZRolobiT!!! Tavi evropaSi visac

hgonia, ZaliT Cacmul 5-ian maisurebSi ga-

mowyobaze, demonstraciebze ZaliT monawi-

leobis miRebaze sabWoTa kavSiri cotaTi

mainc ar elandebaT?ramdeni ”modelirebu-

li qronika” unda vnaxoT, ramdeni lopo-

tas xeobis operacia, ramdeni SaraZe, Jva-

nia, girgvliani, vazagaSvili, gamcemliZe,

qimeriZe, soso wiklauri, Coxeli, xvede-

liZe da sxva, ramdeni daRupul-daWrili

avRaneTSi, ramdeni atirebuli deda, mama,

meuRle, Svili, Seyvarebuli, ramdeni nace-

mi da Seuracxyofili veterani, saxlebidan

gamoyrili Zveli Tu axali ltolvil-dev-

nili, garedan gamWvirvale da Signidan bne-

li, burusiT moculi policiis Senoba,

ramdeni vandaluri Zeglis gadatan-gadmo-

tana an sulac afeTqeba-ganadgureba,ramde-

ni unda vnaxoT da vigemoT, rom gamovfxiz-

ldeT?! Tavs nu davimSvidebT, rom ”droni

mefoben da ara mefeni”!!! iqneb senekas da-

vujeroT: ”gavzomoT cxovreba qmedebebiT

da ara droiT”.

_ makkeini saa-

kaSvilTan Camovida,

rogorc megobari

megobarTan, rom ar-

Cevnebis win gaefr-

Txilebina, raime

sisulele ar Cai-

dino, biWo da ar

dagvRupoo _ aseT

axsnas uZebnis qar-

Tel politikosTa

erTi nawili makkei-

nis vizits saqarT-

veloSi.

_ msoflioSi

Zalian cota darCa

adamiani, visac saa-

kaSvili ujerebs... is imdenadaa Sepyro-

bili Zalauflebis SenarCunebis survi-

liT, rom cota vinmes Tu usmens, xo-

lo visac usmens, maTgan makeini, ra

Tqma unda, gamorCeuli pirovnebaa saa-

kaSvilisTvis. makkeini, albaT, Seecada

daerwmunebina saakaSvili, rom sjobs

arCevnebi samarTlianad Catardes _ am-

boben qarTveli eqspertebi da poli-

tologebi.

mokled rom vTqvaT, didi marCie-

loba da mkiTxaobaa gaCaRebuli _ ra-

tom Camovida makkeini da ra uTxra sa-

akaSvils? saakaSvilis dasatuqsad Ca-

movida Tu saakaSvilis mxardasaWerad?

iqneb imis gasagebad, es ivaniSvili ru-

seTis kacia Tu ara?

am makeinis gamkvirvebia, ivaniSvilis

ruseTumeobis ambavi rom ainteresebs,

ratom is ar ainteresebs vin aris si-

namdvileSi misi politikuri Svilobi-

li mixeil saakaSvili da iseTi ra me-

gobrul-naTesauri kavSirebi aqvs ru-

seTTan, naxevari saqarTvelo Tavis te-

ritoriebian-ekonomikianad ruseTs rom

gadaabrala?

marto am makkeinis ki ara saerTod

amerikelebis miamitobiT da gulubry-

vilobiT var gaocebuli, maTTvis ro-

gor darCa damaluli da gaugebari is,

rac saqarTveloSi TiTqmis yvelam icis

_ dawyebuli Jurnalistebidan da dam-

Tavrebuli rigiTi moqalaqeebiT.

makkeins moaxsenes, rom biZina iva-

niSvilma Tavisi ukanaskneli biznesic

gayida ruseTSi, magram ratomRac ara-

feri mouxsenebiaT imis Sesaxeb, rom

TviT xelisufleba da masTan daaxlo-

ebuli pirebi kidev ufro aRrmaveben

da aZliereben ruseTTan biznesurTier-

Tobebs.

ratom araferi uTxres makkeins da

mis Tanmxleb senatorebs, rom saakaSvi-

li da putini krizisul situaciebSi

ise filigranulad azRveven erTmaneTs,

ise sinqronulad moqmedeben, rom didi

mixvedra ar unda, rasTan gvaqvs saqme.

yvelafers rom Tavi davaneboT, ro-

ca saakaSvilis gundSi moiazrebian ben-

duqiZeebi, vaSaZeebi, nayofiebi, Sarangi-

ebi, sxvebi da sxvebi, ivaniSvilis pro-

rusulobaze saubari sasacilo ar

aris?

makkeins, romelic oTxi weli hyav-

daT rusebs tyved, paTologiurad

sZuls ruseTi da etyoba, SurisZiebis

grZnoba ar asvenebs, miuxedavad imisa,

rom misi tyveobidan bevrma wyalma Ca-

iara da amerika-vietnamis omic ukve

bevrs ar axsovs.

samagierod, yvelaferi axsovs mis-

ter jons da, rogorc vTqviT, ruseb-

ze SurisZiebis dauokebeli survili

moxucebulobaSic gadmohyva.

_ rusebma gawyenines? ager ar var

me? Tqven oRond iaraRi mogveciT da

rusebs TavianT daJangul tankebs da

TavianT frTamoRrecil TviTmfrina-

vebs sul jarTad vuqcevT! _ gamo-

varda uceb xmalamoRebuli jeeli,

tanad brge, xmiT xafi, alag-alag

mrisxane, gvarad saakaSvili da erT-

baSad moxibla ukve asakSi Sesuli

makkeini.

_ ai, vin amixdens ocnebas, ai, vin

iZiebs Surs Cems magivrad, ai, vin mWir-

deba me, _ ifiqra makkeinma da erTi

rom Caavlo xeli am axlad movlenil

gmirs, dRemde ar gauSva.

amasac, am `gmir~ jeelsac ra enaR-

vleba _ xan dedas aginebs ruseTs, xan

mamas, xan orives erTad, erTi-orjer

yumbarebic lewa, riTac, albaT, makkei-

nis guli gaaxara, Tumca amiT makkeinis

gulTan erTad rusebis gulic gaaxara,

romlebmac sapasuxod iseTi dagvcxes,

dRemde ver movsulvarT gons.

moxerxebuli kacia es Cveni saakaS-

vili _ iqiT makkeins da amerikelebs

uxarebs guls, aqeT putins da ruseTs,

erTaderTi, visac guls uklavs, es

qarTvelebia, Tumca qarTvelebi saTva-

lavSi Casagdebic ar arian, mTavaria,

makkeins da rusebs asiamovnos.

_ yvelafers gavakeTeb imisTvis,

rom saqarTvelom Sepirebuli Seiara-

Reba droulad miiRoso _ daubara `ba-

bua~ jonma Tavis saamayo ̀ SviliSvils~

da wavida.

marTalia, is ar uTqvams, SeiaraRe-

bas ki mogcemT, magram mere Sen ici,

rogor Seneburad miulewav Tav-ybas am

Tavxed rusebso, magram amas Tqma rad

undoda _ es xom isedac igulisxmebo-

da.

rogorc Cans, makkeins mtkiced sje-

ra, rom 1 oqtombris arCevnebSi isev

saakaSvili da misi `nac.moZraoba~ gai-

marjvebs da swored imitom Tqva,

iaraRs mogcemTo, Torem makkeini iva-

niSvilis SesaiaraReblad rom ar moik-

lavda Tavs, cxadia.

axla mTavaria, `nacmoZraobis-

`Rirseuli~ gamarjvebis Semdeg viRac-

viRacebma quCaSi gamosvla da xmis amo-

Reba ar gabedon da `gamarjvebuls~

`gamarjveba~ yovelgvari protestis

gareSe miulocon.

ase iSifreba makkeinis narTaulebi

da ara ise, rogorc `qarTuli ocne-

bis~ zogierTi eqsperti Sifravs.

ra davaSaveT aseTi, maincdamainc

makkeins unda SevewiroT?

dabolos, aqve gTavazobT mkiTxve-

lis mier gamogzavnil leqss saTauriT

`makkeini varT maked~.

mxatvruli Rirebulebebis Tval-

sazrisiT, leqsi didi veraferi bede-

naa, magram SinaarsiT saintereso unda

iyos:

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P.S. am amerikelebs ucnauri zne

dasCemdaT bolo xanebSi _ saqarTve-

los sazRvrebs gascdebian Tu ara, ra-

tomRac saakaSvilis siyvarulis buSti

gauskdebaT imwamsve da sazRvrebs gare-

dan sul paCi-puCebs gvigzavnian.

ase moiqca qalbatoni hilari da

ase moiqca batoni makkeinic, romelmac

saqarTvelodan cota Sors daigula

Tavi Tu ara, egreve mTel msoflios

acnoba:

_ me vamayob, rom saakaSvili Cemi

megobariao.

ex, qalbatono TinaTin xidaSelo,

ra tyuilad gvaimedebdiT, makkeini Ta-

visi megobris megobrulad datuqsvis

mizniT Camovidao.

datuqsva ki ara, ver xedavT kacs

eamayeba, rom saakaSvilis megobaria...

giorgi gamezardaSvili

xalxis azriT

`makkeiniT var maked~`Tu ginda siTbo da alersi,

megobars Caxede TvalebSi~

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gvesaubreba konfliqtebisa da

molaparakebebis saerTaSoriso

kvleviTi centris direqtori,

profesori gogi xuciSvili:

_ batono gogi, NDI-mm kvleva

Caatara, ris Sedegadac biZina iva-

niSvils mxars 12 procenti

uWers.

_ NDI avtoritetiani saer-

TaSoriso organizaciaa, magram

meore mxriv, igi kvlevebs sakuTa-

ri ZalebiT ar atarebs _ mas ad-

gilobriv profesiul jgufTan

xelSekruleba aqvs gaformebuli.

Sesabamisad, pasuxismgebloba ra-

sac NDI-s vakisrebT, qarTul

profesiul jgufze unda gadava-

misamarToT. jgufi, romelTanac

luis navaro muSaobs, ar SeiZle-

ba miukerZoeblad, obieqturad Ca-

iTvalos. kargi iqneboda NDI-sdrodadro sxvadasxva jgufebTan

gaeformebina xelSekruleba, mag-

ram am arCevnebisTvis es rCeva uk-

ve dagvianebulia.

_ rogor fiqrobT, vis dau-

Wers am arCevnebSi amerika mxars

_ mixeil saakaSvils Tu xalxs?

maTi mxardaWera xom yovelTvis

prezidents ekuTvnoda.

_ axla, ase ar iqneba, Tumca

xelisuflebas xels uwyobs is

garemoeba, rom amerikas aRar

surs ise gamoCndes, TiTqos ze-

wolas axdens erTi romelime po-

litikuri Zalis sawinaaRmdegod

an sasargeblod. amitomacaa aSS

sakuTar qmedebebsa da Sefasebeb-

Si TavSekavebuli, magram Sefase-

bebi, rac amerikeli politolo-

gebis, mecnierebis mier keTdeba,

vaSingtonis mxridan mxardaWeri-

lia. amas didi mniSvneloba aqvs.

Sefasebebi, romelic araoficia-

luri xaziT keTdeba, Zalian kri-

tikulia. amitom, SeiZleba iTq-

vas, rom aSS-s damokidebuleba

Secvlilia, rac gamowveulia Sem-

degiT _ yvela civilizebuli

qveynis praqtikiTa da kanoniT,

gundi, romelmac xelisuflebaSi

ori vada amowura, unda wavides

da adgili sxva gunds dauTmos.

mTavari esaa. unda moxdes xeli-

suflebis tranzicia, magram es

procesi CvenTan gaZnelebulia,

radgan jgufi, romelic xeli-

suflebaSia imdenadaa CabRauWebu-

li skamebs, rom praqtikulad

aravis aZlevs SesaZleblobas Za-

laufleba gauyos.

_ saakaSvilma aRniSna kidec,

aRmaSenebelma 20 weli moandoma

qveynis gaerTianebaso. es, praqti-

kulad miniSneba iyo, rom igi ar-

sad wasvlas ar apirebs.

_ axla XXI saukunea, saakaS-

vili ki XII-XIII saukunis ambebs

gvTavazobs saprogramo miznad.

man xom Tqva _ Cemi aSenebuli

qveyana sxvas rogor unda gadav-

ceo. mas unda Tanamedrove moder-

nizebuli iarliyiT feodaluri

tipis urCxuli daabrunos qveynis

mmarTvelobaSi.

_ rac Seexeba senatorebis vi-

zits, rogor SeafasebT maT gan-

cxadebebs?

_ saerTod, Zalian kritiku-

lad, skeptikurad vuyureb imas,

rom winasaarCevno periodSi sa-

qarTveloSi swored is senatore-

bi Camodian, romlebic saakaSvils

uWeren mxars. es, winasaarCevnod

politkur zewolas hgavs. es xe-

lisuflebis erT-erTi dagegmili

nabiji iyo, raTa saarCevnod Tavi-

anTi politikuri poziciebi gaeZ-

lierebinaT. makkeini da kidev ram-

denime senatori `respublikuri

partiis~ im konservatiul jgufs

warmoadgenen, romlebic buSis pe-

riodSi radikalur poziciaze iy-

vnen, ramac saqarTvelos ara de-

mokratiuli, aramed avtoritaru-

li gziT svlas Seuwyo xeli.

_ am fonze, ramdenad unda

gvqondes demokratiuli arCevne-

bis Catarebis molodini?

_ molodini mainc unda gvqon-

des. imitom, rom gayalbeba gark-

veul farglebSi xdeba. ar arse-

bobs absoluturi, sruli gayal-

beba. yvelaferi amomrCevlis aq-

tivobaze, mis Camoyalibebuloba-

zea damokidebuli. Tu xalxi 1

oqtombers im arCevans gaakeTebs,

rasac axla misi ganwyobebi gamo-

xatavs, maSin mmarTvelma partiam

ver unda SeZlos imdeni xmis dag-

roveba, rom absolutur dominan-

tur poziciaSi darCes. magram Tu

aRmoCnda, rom Cveni amomrCeveli

winaaRmdegobrivi, Camouyalibebe-

li, sustia gadawyvetilebis mi-

RebaSi da `imedis~, `rusTavi-2~-

is gavlenis qveS eqceva, maSin sa-

momavlod am qveynis saqme cudad

yofila.

_ rogor fiqrobT, dRevande-

li amomrCeveli sustia gadawyve-

tilebis miRebaSi?

_ diax, sustia da swored es

maRelvebs. es imas niSnavs, rom am

arCevnebis Semdeg Cveni demokra-

tiuli ganviTarebis perspeqtive-

bi da Zler saxelmwifod Camoya-

libebis survili, didi kiTxvis

niSnis qveS dgas. mosaxleobis um-

ravlesobam xeli unda Seuwyos

arsebuli viTarebis Secvlas da

parlamenti im Zalebisgan dakomp-

leqtdes, ra moTxovnac sazoga-

doebaSia. amJamad, Cven xelovnuri

parlamenti gvaqvs, es unda dam-

Tavrdes. amomrCevelTan Sexved-

rebs vmarTavT, isini xSirad aR-

niSnaven _ gvinda, azri ufro aq-

tiurad gamovxatoT, magram gve-

Sinia da Tavs vikavebTo. ki, bato-

no, axla SeikaveT Tavi, magram ar

SeikavoT Tavi 1 oqtombers, sadac

aravin giyurebT da Tavisuflad

SegiZliaT azris dafiqsireba.

mTavari esaa, magram Tu sakuTari,

realuri arCevanis dafiqsireba

mosaxleobas masobrivad gauWir-

da, ukve qveynis momavalze didi

kiTxvis niSani daismeba. safrTxe

imisa, rom mosaxleobas am arCeva-

nis gakeTeba gauWirdeba, arsebobs.

magram mainc imeds vitoveb, rom 1

oqtombers arCevnebze xalxi Camo-

yalibebuli poziciiT mova.

_ opoziciuri partiebis di-

di nawili xmamaRla acxadebs,

rom arCevnebi ukve gayalbebulia.

zogi Tvlis, rom am SemTxvevaSi

gamosavali meore dRes quCaSi ga-

mosvla da msoflios mier Cveni

daTvlaa. ras fiqrobT, amaze?

_ ra Tqma unda, sjobs arCev-

nebamde dagvTvalon. arcerTi sa-

erTaSoriso organizacia da dam-

kvirvebelTa jgufi sakuTar Tav-

ze ar aiRebs imas, rom qveynis

mTavrobis mier Seqmnil suraTs

mkveTrad daupirispirdes, gaaba-

Tilos da bolomde gaiyvanos Ta-

visi azri, es ar moxdeba. maT ici-

an, rom TavianT simarTles ver

gaitanen. amitom, maT SeuZliaT

darRvevebis aRmoCena, saerTo vi-

Tarebaze azris gamoTqma, magram

miRebuli Sedegis gauqmebas, Sec-

vlas vercerTi saerTaSoriso

organizacia sakuTar Tavze ver

aiRebs.

_ anu ra gamodis, maTgan Zve-

leburad aRSfoTeba-SSeSfoTebas

miviRebT?

_ ase gamodis. amitom, sjobs

reagireba axlave moxdes. Tundac,

Tu vTvliT, rom damkvirveblebi

sakmarisi ar arian, axlave mo-

viTxovoT damateba. opozicia, sa-

moqalaqo seqtori axla unda ga-

aqtiurdes da ara arCevnebis mere.

es arCevnebi saqarTvelos momav-

lisTvis gadamwyvetia. Tu am ar-

Cevnebis Sedegad gairkva, rom sa-

qarTvelos mosaxleoba eTanxmeba

dRes arsebuli fiqtiuri parla-

mentis kidev 4 weli imave saxiT

arsebobs, es ukve sazogadoebis

uunarobaze imetyvelebs, rasac

Zalian mZime Sedegebi mohyveba.

_ opoziciis nawili arCevne-

bis gayalbebis SemTxvevaSi mosa-

lodnel revoluciaze saubrobs,

rogoria Tqveni prognozi am sa-

kiTxTan mimarTebaSi?

_ aramgonia revolucia mox-

des. aravin dauSvebs xelisufle-

bis legitimacia ukve meored re-

voluciis gziT moxdes. mTeli

datvirTva ukve amomrCevelze ga-

dadis, anu ramdenadaa igi cvli-

lebisTvis masiurad mzad. ara

konkretulad romelime kandida-

tis mxardasaWerad, aramed cvli-

lebisTvis. erTpartiuli parla-

menti unda dasruldes, mTeli

datvirTva swored amaze midis _

Tu ramdenadaa mzad amomrCeveli

amisTvis. unda SemuSavdes meqa-

nizmebi, romelic TviTon arCevne-

bis dRis gakontrolebis saSua-

lebas mogvcems. oRond, ara eg-

zitpolebi. es mosaxleobaze Za-

lian did fsiqologiur gavlenas

axdens. Zalian maSfoTebs erTi

ram _ wina arCevnebis win samoqa-

laqo seqtorsa da saerTaSoriso

damkvirveblebs Soris sakmaod

mWidro urTierToba da komunika-

cia iyo, axla gacilebiT nakle-

bia. ratom unda xdebodes es? es

arCevnebi xom sasicocxlod uf-

ro metad mniSvnelovania, vidre

wina.am arCevnebis mimarT ufro

meti yuradRebaa, amave dros dam-

kvirvebelTa misia ufro naklebad

Semodis kontaqtSi, vidre adre

iyo.

_ ras ukavSirebT am yoveli-

ves, riT SeiZleba iyos es gamow-

veuli?

_ SemiZlia vTqva, rom quCaSi

viRac adamiani daSinebulia, mag-

ram rogor SeiZleba euTos damk-

virvebeli daaSino?! aba, ra aris

mizezi? _ moumzadebloba im vi-

Tarebisadmi, romelSic samuSaod

Cadixar, Tu ra xdeba?! es CemTvi-

sac gaugebaria, es kiTxva upasu-

xodaa darCenili, magram arsebobs

sxvadasxva manipulaciebi, raTa

naklebi iyos kontaqti, _ saerTa-

Soriso organizaciebs mxolod

im organizaciebTan axvedreben,

romelTaganac xelisufleba wi-

naswar gaTvlil pasuxs elis. Se-

saZlebelia saerTaSoriso orga-

nizaciebs miuTiTeben kidec vis

Sexvdnen da vis ara. anu sakmaod,

arajansaRi saarCevno garemoa.

_ prezidentma 11 regionSi

farTomasStabiani aqciebi Caatara.

es Zalis demonstrireba iyo, Tu...

_ ra Tqma unda, es iyo Zalis

demonstrirebis, aqtivobis, fsi-

qologiuri zemoqmedebis moxdena.

arada, roca moqmedi xelisufle-

ba xar, mTeli administraciuli

resursi xelT gaqvs, gamgebels

ar gauWirdeba skolis direqto-

rebs, maswavleblebs xalxis Sek-

reba daavalos, winaaRmdeg SemTx-

vevaSi maT samsaxuridan gauSveben.

ase, ra Tqma unda, bevri xalxi

mova. rogor SeiZleba es serio-

zulad aRviqvaT, rogorc mxarda-

Weris faqtori. es administraci-

uli resursis gamoyenebis faqto-

ria da ara mxardaWeris.

_ ramdenad sworad migaCniaT

opoziciis mxridan kriminalad

monaTlul xelisuflebasTan er-

Tad arCevnebSi monawileoba. bur-

janaZe ambobda: jer gadavayenoT

es xelisufleba da mere davniS-

noT arCevnebio.

_ 7 noembersac egonaT, rom

xalxis kritikuli masa SeZlebda

xelisuflebis gadayenebas, magram

ase ar moxda, imitom, rom raRac

momentSi aSS-m sisuste gamoav-

lina, qarTveli xalxis mxridan

ki iyo SemarTeba. burjanaZis po-

zicia kargad mesmis, magram poli-

tikuri TvalsazrisiT ver gava-

marTleb, imitom, rom saakaSvils

ase veravin gadaayenebs, amas mxo-

lod Camoyalibebuli amomrCev-

lis gadawyvetilebiT mivaRwevT.

Tu amomrCeveli am sakiTxze Camo-

yalTibebuli ar iqna, es ar niS-

navs, rom xelebi unda CamovuSvaT

da yvelaferi daRupulad miviCni-

oT. am momentisTvis, rogorc

Cans, situacia Camoyalibebuli ar

aris. xalxi nel-nela yalibdeba,

Rvindeba, magram saqarTvelos,

samwuxarod, meti dro sWirdeba

am CamoyalibebisTvis, vidre sxva

post-sabWoTa qveynebs.

_ sasurveli Sedegis miuR-

wevlobis SemTxvevaSi, xom ar

aris xelisuflebis mxridan gar-

kveuli provokaciebis mowyobis

safrTxe?

_ Tu ruseTs vgulisxmobT,

igi cdilobs saqarTvelos ambebSi

ar Caerios. saqarTvelos arCevne-

bis gamo, rusuli jari aq ar Se-

mova, magram ar aris gamoricxuli

Tavad saakaSvilma moawyos raime

provokacia. Tumca, aqve erTic un-

da aRiniSnos _ xelisuflebis

mxridan provokaciis mowyobis sa-

SiSroeba maSin iqneboda, Tu igi

arCevnebSi wagebis perspeqtivis

winaSe dadgeboda. am etapze, xe-

lisuflebis wagebis perspeqtivas

ver vxedav. mas uzarmazari resur-

si aqvs. rac Seexeba opozicias,

igi namdvilad Sewuxebulia da

asec unda iyos. am viTarebaSi, xe-

lisuflebis xelSi, mosalodne-

lia maT xmebi daakldeT. xalxis

molodinia opozicia parlamentSi

Zlierad iyos warmodgenili. Tun-

dac meore adgilze gasvla opo-

ziciisTvis win gadadgmuli nabi-

ji iqneba, magram ra Tqma unda, es

ver Sefasdeba, rogorc maTi ga-

marjveba. es iqneba garkveuli win-

svla, magram ara gamarjveba. isev

realobidan unda gamovideT _ Tu

ramdenadaa Cveni amomrCeveli Camo-

yalibebuli. rogorc giTxariT, am

mxriv seriozuli problema

gvaqvs.

Tamar SveliZe

saakaSvils surs Tanamedrove

modernizebuli iarliyiT qveynis

mmarTvelobaSi feodaluri tipis urCxuli daabrunos

gogi xuciSvili:gogi xuciSvili:

12 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

wwiinnaassaaaarrCCeevvnnoo `̀mmaarraaTToonnii~~

ZZaallaass iikkrreebbss.. `̀eennddiiaaiiss~~ kkvvllee-

vviiss SSeeddeeggeebbmmaa,, ffaaqqttoobbrriivvaadd,,

yyvveellaass TTaavvggzzaa aauubbnniiaa,, ssaaggoonnee-

bbeellSSii CCaaaaggddoo `̀nnaacciioonnaalleebbii~~,,

nnuuTTuu mmaarrTTllaa mmoossaaxxlleeoobbiiss 3300

pprroocceennttiiaa mmaaTTii mmoommxxrree?? aannddaa

vviinn aarriiss mmoossaaxxlleeoobbiiss iiss 2211

pprroocceennttii,, rroommeellmmaacc SSeekkiiTTxxvvaa-

zzee,, TTuu vviiss aaZZlleevvss xxmmaass ppaassuuxx-

zzee uuaarrii ggaannaaccxxaaddaa,, aann iiss 2277

pprroocceennttii aaddaammiiaanneebbiissaa,, rroommeell-

TTaacc ppaassuuxxiiss ddaakkoonnkkrreetteebbaazzee

uuaarrii TTqqvveess?? mmaaTTii eerrTToobblliioobbaa

ssaaeerrTToo jjaammSSii,, 4488 pprroocceennttss

SSeeaaddggeennss.. eess kkii ssaakkmmaaoodd ddiiddii

pprroocceennttiiaa aammoommrrCCeevvlleebbiissaa,, rroo-

mmeellTTaa ppaassuuxxii 11 ooqqttoommbbeerrss rree-

aalluurraadd ddaaffiiqqssiirrddeebbaa ddaa yyvvee-

llaaffeerrss nnaaTTeellii mmooeeffiinneebbaa.. mmaa-

nnaammddee kkii vviiss ddaarrCCeebbaa ggaammaarrjjvvee-

bbaa,, jjeerr kkiiddeevv ggaauurrkkvveevveelliiaa..

iimmeeddiiaannaadd aarriiaann rrooggoorrcc `̀nnaaccii-

oonnaalleebbii~~,, iissee kkooaalliicciiaa `̀qqaarr-

TTuullii ooccnneebbiiss~~ wwaarrmmoommaaddggeenn-

lleebbii..

realurad gamoikveTa erTi

ram, kerZod is, rom `nacmoZra-

oba~ gamarjvebis miRwevisaTvis

yvelaferze wamsvlelia, aqedan

gamomdinare ki darRvevebi uk-

ve daiwyes. ra tipis darRveve-

bi gamoikveTa amJamad? rogor

ibrZvian gamarjvebisTvis?

am SekiTxvebs Cven faqtebiT

vupasuxebT.

1. vin arian saarCevno komi-

siebSi `nacionaluri moZrao-

bis~ momxre 6 kaci, romelnic

`saolqos~ warmomadgenlebad

iTvlebian?

_ eseni arian sxvadasxva

saministroebSi da adgilobriv

TviTmmarTvelobaSi momuSave

specialistebi, romelnic sa-

arCevno komisiebSi damoukide-

bel wevrebad moavlines. es

xriki `nacionalebma~ winasaar-

Cevnod moifiqres. am adamianTa

zogierTi nawili winasaarCev-

nod ufaso SvebulebaSi gauS-

ves, radgan TviTmmarTvelobaSi

momuSave TanamSromlebs saar-

Cevno kampaniaSi CarTva ekrZa-

lebaT.

amdenad, saarCevno komisieb-

Si mmarTveli partiis mier da-

niSnuli wevrebis garda `naci-

onalebis~ sasargeblod `damo-

ukidebeli~ upartio wevrebic

imuSaveben, maT raodenoba ki

iqneba 7 kaci. amas kvlav ema-

teba qristian demokratiuli

moZraobis 1, amave partiis Svi-

lobili partiis `qristian-de-

mokratiuli saxalxo partiis~

_ 1, `evropeli demokratebis 1

wevri, romelnic sruliad

uWeren mxars `nacionalebs~ da

es yovelive saarCevno ubnebze

Catarebul pirvel sxdomaze

naTlad gamoikveTa. isini sru-

li SeTanxmebiT, erToblivad

moqmedeben. dRemde neitralur

pozicias inarCuneben leibo-

ristebi~, romelTac xelisuf-

leba aras erCis da arc zRu-

davs im dros, roca `qarTuli

ocnebis~ warmomadgenlebze ar-

naxuli zewola mimdinareobs.

aqac faqtebs moviSveliebT.

ffaaqqttii __ 11

2012 wlis 5 seqtembers,

01.00 saaTze yvarlis raionSi,

sof. SildaSi policiam daaka-

va koalicia `qarTuli ocne-

bis~ yvarlis r-nis zonis ko-

ordinatori levan xuciSvili

da amave koaliciis wevri da

aqtivisti _ zaza rostiaSvili

mis kuTvnil sacxovrebel bina-

Si da gadaiyvana policiis wi-

naswari dakavebis izolatorSi.

maTi dakaveba moxda baCo

nikoloziSvilis Cvenebis sa-

fuZvelze, romelic aris `na-

cionaluri moZraobis~ koor-

dinatoris biZaSvilis meuRle

da misi ganmartebiT levan xu-

ciSvilma mas `nacionali~

uwoda.

ffaaqqttii __ 22

26 agvistos kaspSi daaka-

ves klinika `aversis~ mTavari

eqimi begi TaTriSvili _ gene-

ratoris qurdobis braldebiT.

igi policiam samsaxurSi aiyva-

na _ begi TaTriSvili gorSi

winaswari dakavebis izola-

torSi gadaiyvanes, misi saxli

gaCxrikes da iqidan 800 dola-

ris odenobiT Tanxa amoiRes.

arsebobs safuZvliani eWvi

imisa, rom kaspis raionis mTa-

vari eqimi koalicia `qarTul

ocnebasTan~ kavSiris gamo da-

akaves, radganac dakavebamde

erTi dRiT adre, begi TaTriS-

vils xelisuflebis warmomad-

genlebma im TanamSromelTa sia

mosTxoves, romlebic saakaSvi-

lis dasaxvedrad wavidodnen,

razedac man uari ganacxada!

misi Svili ki koalicia `qar-

Tuli ocnebis~ kaspis organi-

zaciis wevria da maTi maJori-

tari kandidatis daviT onof-

riSvilis saarCevno Sexvedreb-

Si monawileobs.

koalicia `qarTuli ocne-

bis~ warmomadgenlebi acxade-

ben, rom begi TaTriSvili av-

toritetuli pirovnebaa da

kaspSi is seriozul safrTxes

warmoadgens `nacionaluri

moZraobisaTvis~.

ffaaqqttii __ 33

`xramhesis~ generalurma

direqtorma ddeevvii kkaannddeellaakkmmaa,,

koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~

9 aqtivisti gaaTavisufla sam-

saxuridan. aqedan 7 wevri iyo

`xramhesis 1~-is TanamSromeli,

2-ki `xramhesi-2~-is TanamSro-

meli, motivi samsaxuridan

gaSvebisa aris martivi _ Sta-

tebis Semcireba! oRondac, es

Semcireba, mxolod `qarTuli

ocnebis~ mxardamWerebs exebaT

zogadad, es yvelgan asea.

sinamdvileSi es gaxlavT

adamianebis politikuri niSniT

devna.

ffaaqqttii __ 44

bolnisSi `qarTuli ocne-

bis~ maJoritarobis kandidati

aris darejan Cxetiani, misi

Zma da siZe muSaobdnen iq sa-

xanZro-samaSvelo samsaxurSi,

oriveni gauSves samsaxuridan.

amave raionidan daiTxoves sam-

saxuridan bevri ocnebis `oc-

nebis~ momxreebi, maT Soris

baga-baRis TanamSromeli _

aleqsiSvili eka, pedagogi asa-

niZe, gazis sammarTvelos Ta-

namSromeli zina kopaliani,

`madneulis~ TanamSromeli _

CakvetaZe, sakrebulos TanamS-

romeli _ kapanaZe.

ffaaqqttii __ 55

axalqalaqis raionis ni-

nowmindaSi `qarTul ocnebas~

ofisis moZiebaSi exmareboda

iqauri mkvidri lleevvoonn vvaarrTTaannii-

aannii,, is arc koaliciis wevria

da arc araferi. miuxedavad

amisa, is dakavebuli iqna am

faqti gamo da miyvanil iqna

gamgeobis SenobaSi, sadac imJa-

mad imyofeboda `nacionaluri

moZraobis~ maJoritarobis kan-

didati miqoiani, aseve, poli-

ciis ufrosi am regionis da

gamgebeli.

am faqtis Sesaxeb operati-

ulad acnobes gogla Jvanias,

`qarTuli ocnebis~ warmomad-

genels am regionSi, romelic

movida SemTxvevis adgilze,

magram is iq ar SeuSves, manqa-

niT gza gadauketes. amis mere

datyvevebuli varTaniani po-

liciis manqanaSi Casves da

somxeTis sazRvrisken waiyva-

nes, romelsac manqaniTve, dae-

devna Stabis ufrosi gogla

Jvania, magram mas manqaniT gza

gadauketes da ar misces miax-

loebis saSualeba. saqarTve-

los moqalaqe levon varTania-

ni ki somxeTis sazRvarze ga-

daiyvanes da iq datoves. amJa-

mad is veRar Semodis saqarT-

veloSi garkveuli mizezebis

gamo.

ffaaqqttii __ ##66

mniSvnelovani incidenti

moxda axalqalaqis raionis sa-

olqo-saarCevno komisiis

sxdomaze, sadac nacionalebis

warmomadgenelma qalbatonma,

jer sityvieri Seuracxyofa

miayena `qarTuli ocnebis~

warmomadgenlebs, Semdeg ki

Cxubi atexa iseTi, rom moxda

komisiis wevrebs Soris Sex-

la-Semoxla da fizikurad er-

TmaneTisaTvis angariSis gas-

woreba. samwuxaro is gaxlavT,

rom am faqtis aRniSvnis dros

ceskos Tavmjdomarem batonma

xaratiSvilma `ocnebis~ xalxi

daadanaSaula, Tumca, is ar

aris mxare da amisi ufleba

mas ar aqvs. am saqmis ganxil-

visas, `nacionalurma~ isic aR-

niSnes, rom `ocnebis~ warmo-

madgenlebis mxridan adgili

hqonda qsenofobias. faqtobri-

vad, es ase ar yofila, erovne-

bas aranairi mniSvneloba ar

hqonda, radganac olqis Tavmj-

domare iq gaxlavT `naciona-

li~ maramgoziani da is moiqca

ise, rogorc am partias sCve-

via, miuxedavad erovnebisa.

am faqtebis gverdiT ar Se-

iZleba ar gavixsenoT `naciona-

luri moZraobis~ axali meTo-

debi xalxis mosyidvisa. ker-

Zod: 11.. rraattoomm wwaaiiyyvvaanneess mmaaTT aagg-

vviissttooss TTvveeSSii ddaassaassvveenneebbllaadd

bbaannaakkeebbSSii bboorrjjoommiiss rraaiioonnSSii

TTaavviissiivvee ppaarrttiiiiss kkoooorrddiinnaattoo-

rreebbiiss SSvviilleebbii?? 22.. rraattoomm CCaaaa-

ttaarraa mmoossaaxxlleeoobbiiss aaRRwweerraa

gguurrjjaaaanniiss rraaiioonniiss ssoofflleebbSSii

aammaavvee rraaiioonniiss ssaappaattrruulloo ppoo-

lliicciiiiss ggaannyyooffiilleebbaamm?? rraattoomm

ssTTxxoovvddnneenn iissiinnii mmoossaaxxlleeoobbaass

ppiirraaddoobbiiss mmoowwmmoobbeebbss?? 33.. rraattoomm

aarr ddaaddggeess ddRReemmddee tteelleeffoonneebbii

ssaauubbnnoo-ssaaaarrCCeevvnnoo kkoommiissiieebbiiss

uubbnneebbzzee iimmiissaaTTvviiss,, rroomm xxaallxxmmaa

ddaarreekkooss ddaa mmooiiTTxxoovvooss ssaaxxllSSii

ssaaaarrCCeevvnnoo yyuuTTiiss mmiittaannaa??

vviiss aaZZlleevvss xxeellss xxaallxxiiss

aarrmmoossvvllaa aarrCCeevvnneebbzzee??

mTavar kiTxvad ki rCeba is,

rom aarriiss TTuu aarraa `̀cceesskkoo~~ mmxxaa-

rree ddaa aarraa ddaammoouukkiiddeebbeellii ssuu-

bbiieeqqttii aarrCCeevvnneebbiiss ddrrooss?? _

amas, albaT, axlo momavali

gviCvenebs.

nino kasraZe

nacionalebiswinasaarCevno oinebi

llaallii mmoorrooSSkkiinnaa nnaacciioonnaalleebbiiss xxeelliissuufflleebbaaSSii ddaarrCCeenniiss SSeemmTTxxvveevvaaSSii

eevvrrooppaaSSii ppoolliittiikkuurr TTaavvSSeessaaffaarrss mmooiiTTxxoovvss

Jurnalist lali moroSkinas mtkicebiT, is saqarTvelos

erovnul universitetSi profesoris Tanamdebobidan poli-

tikuri Sexedulebebis gamo gaaTavisufles.

rogorc moroSkinam dRes mediapalitris ofisSi gamar-

Tul preskonferenciaze ganacxada, man ramdenjerme, maT So-

ris Ria eTerSi, koalicia “qarTul ocnebas” mxardaWera ga-

moucxada. garda amisa, mmarTvel gundSi arc mis mier gamo-

cemuli wignebi moswondaT.

moroSkinas mtkicebiT, imis Sesaxeb, rom igi samsaxuridan

gaTavisuflebuli iyo universitetis reqtorma gia kavTuaS-

vilma acnoba da SesTavaza, rom “ar exmaura da xelfass Se-

unarCunebdnen”. Jurnalistis TqmiT, es misTvis Seuracxmyofelia.

misive gancxadebiT, im SemTxvevaSi Tu pirveli oqtombris arCevnebis Semdeg “nacmoZra-

oba” saparlamento umravlesobaSi aRmoCndeba, igi evropis romelime saxelmwifos poli-

tikur TavSesafars sTxovs.

`medianiusi~

13saerTo gazeTi#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

am ramdenime dRis win sruliad

saqarTvelos patriarqi ilia II

bolniss estumra da uZvelesi mar-

Tlmadidebluri taZari bolnisis

sioni mrevlTan da iq Casul samRv-

delo Tu saero pirebTan erTad mo-

iloca!

am istoriaSi TiTqosda gasakvi-

ri araferia, magram namdvilad ga-

mikvirda am mogzaurobis ramdenime

epizodi da marTali giTxraT, aRv-

SfoTdi kidec!

aRvSfoTdi imitom, rom sapat-

riarqos delegaciis oficialuri

maspinZeli, `oqros gombeSod~ wo-

debuli, `nac.moZraobisa~ da ruse-

Tis xelisuflebis mier saqarTve-

loSi movlenili, saakaSvilis biZis

Temur alasanias Zmakaci `efesbeSni-

ki~ generalovis moadgile, amJamad

bolnisis r-nis maJoritari kandi-

dati koba nayofia gaxldaT da ara

is mrevli, romelic patriarqs fex-

dafex misdevda yvelgan, sadac ki is

im dRes mibrZandeboda.

televiziiT gadaica is kadre-

bic, roca xelSi Cvilatatebuli

qalebi, moxuci adamianebi Tu xeib-

rebi didi mondomebiT iltvodnen

patriarqTan Sesaxvedrad, moTmine-

biT elodnen mis miaxloebas, magram

e.w. saxelmwifo `dacva~, Tu koba

nayofias piradi `dacva~, maT patri-

arqamde xSir SemTxvevaSi, ar uSveb-

da, rac araTu miuRebeli, aramed

amazrzeni sanaxavic ki iyo.

da mainc, ratom maincdamainc

koba nayofia SearCia samaspinZlod

adgilobrivma Tu regionulma xeli-

suflebam sapatriarqos samdivnos-

Tan erTad?

albaT, imitom, rom `nacionalu-

ri xelisufleba~ ukeT umaspinZleb-

da da izrunebda yoveliveze, maT

Soris stumarTa usafrTxoebaze,

magram am winasaarCevnod Tavad sa-

patriarqom ratom ganacxada Tanx-

moba, `generalur maspinZlad~ maJo-

ritarobis kandidati, Tanac milio-

neri nayofia hyolodaT da ara,

vTqvaT, bolnisis eparqia?

ufro metic, gana am damSeul

qveyanaSi sircxvili ar aris, umaR-

lesma samRvdelo pirma _ yaCaRobiT

gamdidrebuli adamianebisgan oqros

zodi miiRos saCuqrad da isic war-

weriT: `saqarTvelos patriarqi

ilia II~.

diax, specialurad patriarqisT-

vis Camosxmuli 1 kg. oqros zodi

gadasca avazakma `nacionalma~ koba

nayofiam ilia II-s. gulaxdilad

vambob, gamikvirda, Zalian gamikvir-

da es faqti da amavdroulad, gavb-

razdi kidec. imitom, rom jer er-

Ti _ gaaCnia vin gTavazovs saCuqars

da meorec, imasac gaaCnia, am gatya-

vebul qveyanaSi, ra saxis saCuqars

mogarTmeven keTilganwyobis sanacv-

lod!!!

Tu mexsiereba ar mRalatobs,

wminda sinodma winasaarCevnod `spe-

cialuri kanonic~ ki miiRo imis Se-

saxeb, rom samRvdelo pirebs kate-

goriulad ekrZalebaT saarCevno

propaganda, romelime politikuri

gvamis mimarT, agreTve ekrZalebaT

simpatiebis gamoxatva da axla, ro-

ca 3 kviraSi arCevnebi iqneba, sino-

dis, sapatriarqos da TviT ilia II

CabrZaneba bolnisSi, maTi keTilgan-

wyoba nayofias mimarT rogor unda

SevafasoT _ ubralo SemTxveviTo-

bad Tu specialur vizitad, rome-

lic miznad `nac.moZraobis~ kandi-

datis mxardaWeras gulisxmobda?!

suliT xorcamde SemZra sul

axlaxan waRveridan TxuTmetiode

kilometrSi, sofel maqarwyalSi,

sakuTari xeliT aSenebul keliaSi

gamomwvari usaTnoesi beri merkvi-

ris Semzaravma sikvdilma da misma

werilma, romlis adresatic saqar-

Tvelos kaTolikos-patriarqi ilia

II-a.

rogorc ukve iTqva, beri merkvi-

ri sakuTar keliaSi gamomwvari ipo-

ves... pasuxgaucemeli darCa misi

kiTxvebic, arada, es kiTxvebi ara

mxolod bers, erSic mravladaa da

gvipasuxeT, patriarqo, ratom

iRebT ZRvens eklesiebis damangreve-

lebisgan, xatebis fexebiT gamTela-

vebisagan, qarTvelTa damaqcevrebisa-

gan da marTlmadideblobasTan mebr-

Zoli nac-satanistebisgan?

aki, ufali Cveni ieso qriste

mogiwodebT: nuca oqrosa da nuca

vercxls nu daxarbdebiTo?!

ra mogitanaT bolnisSi koba na-

yofias naCuqarma oqros zodma _

nuTu mrevlis ufro meti siyvaru-

li?

Tqveno uwmindesobav, mSieri

qveynis patriarqi brZandebiT, upa-

tronod migdebuli invalidi bavSve-

bis da uTavSesafro moxucebis pat-

riarqi brZandebiT, daavadebuli da

usasood darCenili qarTveli marT-

lmadideblebis patriarqi brZande-

biT da imedi maqvs, am oqros zods

auqcionze gaatanienbT da iqidan Se-

mosuli Tanxebi gaWirvebuelbs da

upovrebs moxmardeba.

ppaattiivviisscceemmiiTT,,

mmaarrTTllmmaaddiiddeebbeellii qqrriissttiiaannii

irine gogosaSvili

Cveni gazeTi erT-erTi pir-

veli iyo, romlis furclebi-

danac sazogadoebam dadasture-

bulad Seityo, rom lopotas

xeobaSi CeCen mebrZolTa jgufi

gamiznulad, mZinare mdgomareo-

baSi Caxoces. eWvebi amis Sesa-

xeb, Ss saministros mier gavr-

celebuli kadrebis gamoCenis-

Tanave gaCnda, radgan daxocili

meomrebis umetesoba saZile

tomrebSi iwvnen. Tumca, danad-

vilebiT amaze saubris ufleba

mxolod mas Semdge miveci Tavs,

rac ambis TviTmxilvels vesa-

ubre. ukve ori kvira gadis

lopotas sisxliani specopera-

ciidan, da sazogadoebis kiTx-

vebze pasuxi jerac ar aris ga-

cemuli: ratom da visi davale-

biT gadmokveTes sazRvari Ce-

Cenma mebrZolebma; rogor moa-

xerxes am raodenobis sabrZo-

lo teqnikiT sazRvris gadmok-

veTa SeumCnevlad; sad midiod-

nen; ratom aris amdeni Seusaba-

moba mZevalTa monaTxrobSi?!

mmaammuukkaa aarreeSSiiZZee –– eeqqssppeerrttii

kkaavvkkaassiiiiss ssaakkiiTTxxeebbSSii:: specope-

raciis kadrebidan jer-jero-

biT kidev uamravi pasuxgauce-

meli kiTxva arsebobs. magram

danamdvilebiT SeiZleba iTq-

vas, rom es razmi midioda sam-

xreTidan CrTiloeTisaken da

ara piriqiT. maT rom siriaSi

gadasvla sdomodaT, isini

aeroportSi mividodnen kos-

tiumebiT da xelsac aravin

SeuSlidaT gamgzavrebaSi. ase-

ve zustad SeiZleba iTqvas

rom razmi kvalificiuri meb-

rZolebiT iyo dakompleqtebu-

li. maT kvalifikacias amtki-

cebs SeiaraRebac. razmi maRa-

li donis iaraRiT iyo aRWur-

vili, romliTac elitaruli

spec-razmebia SeiaraRebuli.

mniSvnelovania am iaraRebis

fasic. rusuli warmoebis

iaraRebisa da SaSxanebis gar-

da, Ss mier gavrcelebul vi-

deomasalaSi Cans avstriuli

SaSxanac, romlis fasi daax-

loebiT, 3 000 aSS dolaria.

es sakmaod elitaruli SaSxa-

naa, magaliTad gru-s spec-

razmebis SeiaraRebaSi es SaS-

xana mxolod SarSan gamoCda,

imdenad Zviria igi. garda ami-

sa, maT hqondaT Zalian serio-

zuli iaraRi, “teplovizori”,

Ramis da dRis xedvis aparati,

misi fasi daaxloebiT 8 000

dolaria. mniSvnelovania isic,

rom am iaraRis xmarebas erT

da or dReSi ver iswavli. mi-

si gamoyenebis Seswavlas Tve-

naxevari, ori Tve sWirdeba. es

imaze migvaniSnebs rom es raz-

mi wina dRes Sekrebili ar

aris. im kadrebidan gamomdina-

re, rac eTerSi Cans, SemiZlia

giTxraT, rom TiToeul maT-

gans 50 kilogrami tvirTi

mihqonda. rac imis maniSnebe-

lia, rom es adamianebi Zalian

seriozul saqmeze midiodnen

da apirebdnen, rom garkveuli

periodis ganmavlobaSi samya-

ros mowyvetilebi yofiliyv-

nen, daaxloebiT erTi kviris

an aTi dRis ganmavlobaSi.

razmis kvalifikaciis, mom-

zadebis da aRWurvis done im-

denad maRali iyo, rom xazgas-

miT vambob, es razmi 11 kacs

konkretul brZolaSi ar da-

kargavda. gardacvlilTa nawi-

li moulodnelad iyo Caxoci-

li. am adamianebisaTvis rom Se-

takeba moulodenli iyo, amas

mowmobs isic, rom maTi nawili

saZile tomrebSi iyo da garda

amisa isic, rom zogierT gvams

Zalian bevri tyvia aqvs moxved-

rili. brZolaSi iSviaTia, rom

adamians bevri tyvia moxvdes,

Tu iq ar aris moulodnelobis

efeqti, an Tu igi uiaraRo ar

aris.

__ rrooggoorr mmooxxddaa,, rroomm mmssggaavv-

ssii kkvvaalliiffiikkaacciiiiss rraazzmmiiss yyvveellaa

wweevvrrssMMAA eerrTTddrroouullaadd ddaaiiZZiinnaa??

_ isini, savaraudod, awar-

moebdnen molaparakebas xeli-

suflebis romelime warmomad-

genelTan. molaparakebaSi mona-

wileobda calxela axmedi, ro-

melic zustad im droisaTvis

iyo wamosuli detalebis dasa-

zusteblad da mosalaparakeb-

lad. amitom razmis wevrebi xi-

faTs ar elodnen.

__ TTqqvveennii aazzrriiTT,, rraammddeennaadd

SSeessaaZZlleebbeelliiaa aasseeTTii SSeeiiaarraaRRee-

bbiiTT rraazzmmmmaa ssaazzRRvvaarrii SSeeuummCCnneevv-

llaadd ggaaddaakkvveeTTooss??

_ rac Seexeba imas, Tu ro-

gor gadaadgildebodnen isini,

an saqarTvelos xelisflebam

unda aRiaros, rom qveyanaSi

aranairi usafrTxoebis sistema

ar arsebobs, an saqmeSi Tavisi

warmomadgenlis Tanamonawileo-

baze unda gaakeTos gancxadeba.

is rom es adamianebi mTispira

tyeebiT gadaadgildebodnen, es

ar aris gasamarTlebeli mize-

zi. aseTi razmis ekipirebas,

Cacma-daxurvas da Semdeg mis

daZvras, viRac mainc Seaswreb-

da Tvals. ase, rom, es razmi

lafanyuramde TavisiT ver mivi-

doda.

__ SSeeggvviiZZlliiaa TTuu aarraa iimmiiss

TTqqmmaa,, rroomm aamm rraazzmmiiss CCaammooyyvvaannaa

ddaa eekkiippiirreebbaa xxeelliissuufflleebbiiss

ddaakkvveeTTiiTT mmooxxddaa??

_ amis Tqma Zalian sapasu-

ximgebloa. msgavsi gancxadeba

did yuradRebas miiqcevs, ara

mxolod qarTuli sazogadoe-

bis, aramed sxva qveynebisac,

maT Soris ruseTis. erT mSve-

nier dRes ruseTis xelisuf-

lebis warmomadgenlebi amas

xelze daixveven da Cvens wina-

aRmdge gamoiyeneben. Tumca,

isic saTqmelia, rom xelisuf-

lebis monawileobis gareSe es

razmi saqarTvelos teritori-

aze ver moxvdeboda. sakiTxavi

mxolod isaa, xelisuflebis

romeli rgoli iyo am saqmeSi

gareuli.

__ SSeessaaZZlleebbllaadd mmiiggaaCCnniiaaTT,,

rroomm eess aammbbaavvii pprreezziiddeennttss aarr

ssccooddnnooddaa??

_ dazustebiT ver vityvi,

magram egec SesaZlebelia. mso-

flioSi yofila msgavsi prece-

dentebi. magaliTad, amerikis

SeerTebuli Statebis prezi-

denti ramdenjerme ar iyo mniS-

vnelovani specoperaciis saqmis

kursSi, igive SeiZleba iTqvas

israelis prezidentzec. eWvs

imis Sesaxeb, rom specoperacia,

xelisuflebis romelime rgo-

lis da ara mTlianad xelisuf-

lebis sindiszea, isic iwvevs,

rom specoperacia spontanuro-

bis elementebs Seicavda. Cvens

mTavrobas uyvars “sufTad” mu-

Saoba. am specoperaciam ki imde-

ni kiTxvebi datova sazogadoe-

baSi da imden Seusabamobas Se-

icavda Ss sammarTvelos mier

gakeTebuli gancxadebebi da vi-

deomasalebi, rom savaraudod,

specoperacia Catarda sponta-

nurad, detalebis ganuxilve-

lad da saerTo SeTanxmebis ga-

reSe. garda amisa, roca raRac

xdeba – aucileblad unda da-

isvas kiTxva – vin moigo? amje-

rad, am kiTxvaze pasuxi ar

sCans. xelisuflebas namdvilad

araferi mougia. piriqiT, Tu

ityvis, rom razmma TavisiT mo-

axerxa lafanyuramde misvla,

gamodis, xelisuflebam da qvey-

nis uSiSroebam sakuTari usu-

suroba unda aRiaros, xolo

Tu am razmTan xelisuflebis

kavSiri dadginda, es faqti sa-

akaSvilis imijze didi darty-

ma iqneba.

__ TTqqvveennii aazzrriiTT,, mmaaiinncc rraaSSii

SSeeiiZZlleebbooddaa ddaassWWiirrvveebbooddaa xxee-

lliissuufflleebbaass mmssggaavvssii rraazzmmiiss

SSeeqqmmnnaa??

_ Tavdasacavad, saidumlo

davalebebis Sesasruleblad.

ramdenime wlis winaT iyo sau-

bari imazec, rom xelisuflebas

surs Seqmnas ucxouri legio-

ni. mogexsenebaT, arsebobs

msgavsi regionebi safrangeTsa

da espaneTSi. Tumca, mas Semdeg

am legionis Seqmnaze araferi

msmenia. ase, rom dazustebiT

verafers vityvi.

Tamuna keSelava

`oqros gombeSos~ miermiZRvnili oqros zodi

patriarqi ilia II nacmoZraobis

bolnisis maJoritarobis kandidatma

nayofiam oqros zodiT daasaCuqra!

lopotas xeobaSi momxdariistoriis axali detalebi

14 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

gvesaubreba partia `̀Tavisu-

fali saqqarTvelos~ Tavmjdoma-

re kaxa kukava::

_ kaxa, bolo dros xeli-

sufleba da opoziciac saerTa-

Soriso damkvirveblebis vizi-

tiT aRfrTovanebas ver malaven,

romelTac Cveni arCevnebis sa-

marTlianoba unda gansazRvron.

Aqamde, maTgan mxolod es fraza

dagvamaxsovrda _ garkveuli

xarvezebi iyo, magram saboloo

jamSi arCevnebi demokratiulad

Catardao. ras unda velodoT

amJamad?

_ vfiqrob, saerTaSoriso

organizaciebis imedi ar unda

gvqondes, umjobesia maTze adek-

vaturi warmodgena viqonioT. vin

arian isini? _ isini arian evro-

pelebi da amerikelebi. evrope-

lebi saqarTvelos Sida saqmeeb-

Si veranairad ver Caerevian, maq-

simum SeuZliaT Zalian rbili

gancxadebebis gakeTeba. rac See-

xeba, aSS-s, maT gavlenis berke-

tebi aqvT, Tumca unda gvesmo-

des, rom aSS-sTvis mTavari iqne-

ba ara is Tu ramdenad demokra-

tiulad Catardeba CvenTan ar-

Cevnebi, aramed is, Tu romeli

Zala CaiTvleba ufro pro-ameri-

kulad. dRes, NDI-s, `ai-rais~

kvlevebiT, aseve, makkeinis, oba-

mas, klintonis gancxadebebiT da

zogadad amerikuli polit.eli-

tis poziciidan gamomdinare, na-

Telia _ aSS miiCnevs, rom misi

strategiuli mokavSire, am re-

gionSi, mixeil saakaSvilia. sa-

nam es pozicia ar Seicvleba, ma-

namde fiqri imaze, rom amerike-

li damkvirveblebi saqarTvelo-

Si Catarebul arCevnebze kriti-

kul daskvnas daweren, warmoud-

genelia. 2003 weli gamonaklisi

iyo zustad imitomac, rom Jva-

nia, saaakaSvili (maSin maT so-

rosis premiebi miiRes) proame-

rikul Zalebad, xolo Sevardna-

Ze yofil sabWoTakavSirel fun-

qcionerad iTvleboda. dRes, vi-

Tareba piriqiTaa Secvlili. sa-

akaSvili im qveynis lideria,

romelic avRaneTSi da eraySi

umsxviles misiebs agzavnis, xo-

lo biZina ivaniSvili maTTvis

rusi oligarqia, romelmac saku-

Tari kapitalis Cadeba saqarTve-

loSi gadawyvita.

_ am fonze ras niSnavda mak-

keinis gancxadeba?

_ makkeinis gancxadeba simp-

tomaturi iyo. man Tqva _ iva-

niSvilma dagvarwmuna, rom ru-

seTTan yovelgvari kavSiri gawy-

vita. es Zalian saintereso gan-

cxadebaa, sadac ori momenti

Cans _ pirveli _ ivaniSvili

makkeinTan Sexvedrisas Tavs

imarTlebda, saubari iyo ara ar-

Cevnebze, aramed imis darwmuneba-

ze, rom ruseTTan araferi akav-

Sirebs da meore, TavisTavad,

faqti, rom ivaniSvili ruseTTan

iyo kavSirSi orive mxaris mier

aRiarebulia. mkiTxvelma ise ar

gaigos, TiTqos me ivaniSvils

bralad vuyeneb ruseTTan kav-

Sirs. ra Tqma unda, es ase araa.

aramed me Semdegs vambob _ aSS-

sTvis ivaniSvili braldebulia,

mixeil saakaSvili ki maTi sisx-

lxorceuli mokavSire. aqedan

gamomdinare, prognozireba ar

unda gagviWirdes, Tu vis mxares

daiWers aSS.

_ avRaneTSi da eraySi umsx-

vilesi misiebis gagzavnac xom

ar aris imis winapiroba, rom

aSS arCevnebis gayalbebis SemTx-

vevaSi Tvals daxuWavs da kvlav

demokratiuli arCevnebis Cata-

rebas mogvilocavs.

_ ra Tqma unda, zustad asea,

saqarTvelos xelisuflebis mi-

sia swored amas emsaxureba. es

momenti adekvaturad unda Se-

fasdes. rodesac rigi opozici-

uri partiebi gveubnebian, TiT-

qos makkeini ama Tu im sakiTxTan

mimarTebaSi Tavis sasargeblod

daarwmunes, es ubralod xalxis

motyuebaa. maT makkeini verafer-

Si ver daarwmunes. es ubralod

Tavis motyuebaa. aSS SeiZleba

daTanxmdes, rom ruseTTan kav-

Sirgawyvetili `qarTuli ocne-

ba~ meore adgilze gaiyvanos.

_ maSin risi imedi aqvs opo-

zicias, es marto `qarTul oc-

nebas~ xom ar exeba, `Tavisufa-

li saqarTveloc~ xom pro-rru-

suli Zalad moiazreba.

_ Cven unda mivmarToT kla-

sikas, roca qveyana damoukidebe-

li araa, aseT qveyanaSi erov-

nul-ganmanTavisuflebeli moZra-

oba unda daiwyos, romelic qvey-

nis realur damoukideblobas

moipovebs. dRes erovnul-ganman-

Tavisuflebeli moZraobis Cana-

saxs `Tavisufali saqarTvelo~

warmoadgens. Tumca, ra Tqma un-

da, es srulfasovan erovnul-

ganmanTavisuflebel moZraobaSi

mas Semdeg gadaizrdeba, rac sa-

zogadoebis kritikuli masis

mxridan mxardaWeras miviRebT.

vfiqrob, dRes gamofxizlebis

etapze varT. sazogadoebis gark-

veul nawilSi gamofxizleba da-

iwyo, Tumca vfiqrob, umravle-

soba mainc buranSia. sazogadoe-

ba isev im azrebis da ideebis

tyveobaSia _ aSS mxars dagvi-

Wers, ivaniSvilma lobistebi da-

iqirava da a.S. rodesac am bura-

nidan gamovalT da davinaxavT,

rom saqarTvelos dolari ki

ara, aramed damoukidebloba ga-

daarCens, mxolod amis Semdeg

SevZlebT realuri politikuri

procesis daZvras.

_ rac Seexeba lobisturi

kompaniebis daqiravebas, Tu isi-

ni saqarTeloSi Catarebul ar-

Cevnebs ar aRiareben, xom ar

aris safrTxe es xelisuflebam

`lobistur SeTqmulebad~ gamo-

acxados?

_ minda giTxra, rom lobis-

tebs aSS-Si aranairi zegavlena

ar aqvT. miTebi lobistebis Se-

saxeb Zalian gadaWarbebulia.

imdenad diskreditrebuli iqna

maTi saqmianoba, rom roca obama

aSS-s prezidentad airCies,

erT-erTi pirveli iniciativa,

riTac man kongress mimarTa lo-

bistebis akrZalva iyo. lobis-

tebi arian meqrTameebi, sabWoTa

kavSiris drosac iyo xalxi, vi-

sac obexeSi, cekaSi, tekaSi saq-

mis Cawyoba SeeZloT. ise ar un-

da warmovidginoT, TiTqos lo-

bistebi politikur gadawyveti-

lebas iReben. politikur ga-

dawyetilebebs iReben TeTr sax-

lSi, saxelmwifo departament-

Si, senatSi, kongresSi. lobis-

tebs SeuZliaT garkveuli, indi-

vidualuri sakiTxebis gadawyve-

ta, romelzec ar arsebobs aSS-

s Camoyalibebuli, principuli

pozicia. im sakiTxebze, romel-

zec aSS-s mTavrobas Tavis

strategia aqvs Camoyalibebuli,

Zalian sasaciloa vifiqroT,

rom lobistebi masze raime ze-

gavlenis moxdenas SeZleben.

aSS-s evraziis, ruseTis mo-

sazRvre regionebSi Tavisi Camo-

yalibebuli xedva aqvs, romelic

ar Seicvleba imisda miuxedavad

Seicvlebian Tu ara prezidente-

bi.

_ dRes Seqmnili saarCevno

garemos gaTvaliswinebT, bevri

arCevnebis gayalbebaze saubrobs.

Tumca, rigi opoziciuri parti-

ebi imasac amboben, rom aseT Sem-

TxvevaSi meore dRes quCaSi ga-

movlen da dae, msofliom dagv-

Tvalos ramdeni varTo. Tu main-

cdamainc Cvens daTvlaSia xsna,

xom ar sjobda arCevnebamde da-

veTvaleT?

_ vfiqrob, aseTi tipis saub-

rebi daTvlaze, Zalian saxifa-

Toa imitom, rom es niSnavs, rom

calkeul opoziciur Zalebs

konkretuli gegma ar aqvT da

raRac zogadi frazebiT saubro-

ben. daTvla _ es ukiduresad

araseriozulia imitom, rom jer

erTi aravin aravis ar daTvlis,

meorec _ Tu daTvlian, am

ricxvs Seamcireben da samze ga-

yofen da rac mTavaria, sisule-

lea imis molodini, rom vinc

xmas gvaZlevs yvela arCevnebze

modis. levan gaCeCilaZem sapre-

zidento arCevnebze oficialu-

rad 500 aTasi xma aiRo, realu-

rad, albaT es 700 aTasi xma

iyo, magram mitingze 100 aTas

kacze meti ar mosula. vinmes

rom daveTvaleT da eTqva 100

aTasi xma misces levan gaCeCla-

Zeso, es namdvilad xelisufle-

bisTvis kargi koziri iqneboda.

amitom, opoziciurma partiebma

imaze ki ar unda isaubron vin

dagvTvalos, aramed ramdenad mi-

saRebia calkeuli opoziciuri

partiebisTvis 2012 wlis 1 oq-

tombris Semdgom saparlamento

umciresobis reJimSi brZolis

gagrZeleba. ai, es aris mTavari

SekiTxva da ara is, dagvTvlian

Tu ara. sazogadoebas aintere-

sebs risTvis vibrZviT _ meore

Tu pirveli adgilisTvis. `Tavi-

sufali saqarTvelo~ vacxadebT:

im SemTxvevaSi, Tu opoziciuri

partiebi jamSi 50 procentze

ufro naklebs aiReben, mzad

varT Cvens kolega opozicioner

ZalebTan erTad revoluciaSi

miviRoT monawileoba da ara ub-

ralod masobriv aqciebSi, maT

Soris, mzad varT revoluciaSi

monawileoba Cveni piradi usaf-

rTxoebis riskis fasad gavwioT.

sxva opozicioneri partiebisgan

aseTi konkretuli gancxadebebi

ar gakeTebula. saubrebi imis Se-

saxeb, rom dagviTvalon, Segva-

mowmon da a.S. es ufro ZiriTad

SekiTxvaze Tavis aridebas hgavs

_ daTanxmdebian Tu ara isini 30

procentiani saparlamento umci-

resobis Seqmnas.

_ xelisuflebas gayalbebis

amouwuravi berketi aqvs. rogor

fiqrob, Tu marTla 50 procen-

tze dabali iqna opoziciuri

partiebis jami, SeiZleba revo-

luciamde mivideT?

_ es damokidebulia erT

adamianze _ biZina ivaniSvil-

ze. zustad vici, rom `Tavi-

sufali saqarTvelo~ arCev-

nebis gayalbebas ar Seegueba.

aseve, zustad vici, rom

TargamaZe, alasania, `respub-

likelebi~, `leiboristebi~

iseve rogorc wina arCevneb-

ze, axlac aucileblad See-

guebian morig gayalbebas.

magram ar viciT, ra pozici-

as daikavebs biZina ivaniSvi-

li. misi pozicia gadamwyve-

ti iqneba. Tu igi ityvis,

rom arCevnebis Sedegebs un-

da SeveguoT, maSin `Tavisu-

fali saqarTvelo~ marto

verafers Secvlis. Tu igi

ityvis revoluciaze mivdi-

varTo, maSin `respublikele-

bis~ da `memarjveneebis~ po-

zicia sazogadoebisTvis uin-

tereso iqneba. dRes, ZalTa

ganlageba iseTia, rom sazo-

gadoebrivi azris sakontro-

lo paketi biZina ivaniSvils

uWiravs.

_ bevri opozicioneri mainc

darwmunebiT saubrobs 1 oqtom-

bers sakuTar gamarjvebaze. mag-

ram ra igulisxmeba amaSi. xom

SeiZleba zogi warmatebad 10

procentiT Sesvlas Tvlides?

_ ki, swored amas vambob, Ta-

ko. Jurnalistebma maT unda

hkiTxoT _ ras izamT, Tu manda-

tebis 20 procents aiRebT vice-

spikeris postze iyriT kenWs Tu

rusTavelze barikadebze dadge-

biT? esaa mTavari SekiTxva, ro-

melzec yvelas pasuxebi SemiZ-

lia vivaraudo, biZina ivaniSvi-

lis garda.

kaxa kukava:kaxa kukava: pirdapir vacxadeb, Tu saWiro gaxda, revoluciaSi uyoymanod miviReb monawileobas!

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_ kaxa, rac Seexeba saar-

Cevno siebs, aq ufro mZime

suraTi ikveTeba, vidre 1.200

aTasi xmis dauzusteblobaa.

erT-eerT satelevizio eTer-

Si oponents `tele-kkardaka-

ris~ mowyoba SesTavaze.

_ diax, swored dRes

movawyveT `tele-kardaka-

ri~, viyaviT walkis raio-

nis erT-erT sofelSi, sa-

dac 700 amomrCevlidan

mxolod 50 cxovrobs. Tum-

ca, iuridiuli procedure-

biT xelisuflebasTan dava

arafris momcemia. rogorc

dasawyisSi vaxsene am pro-

cess verc saerTaSoriso

damkvirveblebi ver gadawy-

veten. Rrmad mwams, rom xe-

lisuflebis Secvla SesaZ-

lebelia revoluciiT.

_ maSin arCevnebs ra

azri aqvs, miTumetes, Tu

viciT, rom arCevnebi ukve

gayalbebulia?

_ ra Tqma unda, amaze

ori azri ar arsebobs. mgo-

nia, rom aramarto xeli-

sufleba ayalbebs arCevnebs,

aramed opoziciac maSin,

roca eWvis qveS ayenebs sa-

kiTxs _ gaayalbebs Tu ara

xelisufleba arCevnebs. ra

Tqma unda, arCevnebi gayal-

bebulia. ra, ar viciT, rom

xaratiSvili minimum 55

procents dauwers `nacio-

nalur moZraobas~? vinc am-

bobs, rom ar viciT, ar ga-

akeTebs amas xaratiSvilio,

is gulubryvilo ki ara Ta-

namonawilea. vinc axla am-

bobs Cven xmebs davicavTo,

es is xalxia, vinc xmamaRla

ambobda _ Cven SevcvliT am

xelisuflebaso da mere ar-

CevnebSi gamarjveba gigi

ugulavas miuloces. es

xalxi dRes ambobs arCev-

nebs ver gaayalbebeno. ami-

tom es arCevnebis gayalbeba-

Si Tanamonawileobaa. sxva-

TaSoris, hitlers aRweri-

li aqvs propaganda, romel-

sac germanuli da britanu-

li samxedro Stabebi erTma-

neTis winaaRmdeg eweodnen.

saintereso magaliTia. Misi

TqmiT: germanel jariskacs,

rogorc barbaros, velurs

ise aRwerdnen da britaneli

jariskaci moralurad mzad

iyo am saSineli Zalis mqo-

ne mebrZolis gasanadgureb-

lad, radgan misgan Tavi da-

ecva. germaneli samxedro

propaganda britanel ja-

riskacs aRwerda, rogorc

pijakSi gamowyobil, araf-

rismaqnis, uniaTo axalgaz-

rdas da germaneli jariska-

cebi absoluturad araseri-

ozulad iyvnen ganwyobilni,

rac mavnebeli iyo. roca

isini pirispir Sexvdnen

britanel jariskacebs aR-

moaCines, rom saqme hqondaT

ara dondlo, aramed kargad

momzadebul profesionaleb-

Tan. es istoriuli magali-

Tia. Cvenc Tu vityviT, vera-

fersac ver gaayalbeben, aSS

CvenTanaa, yvelaferi mogva-

rebuliao, mere saarCevno

ubanze sruli garRveva rom

gveqneba, amas veranairad ver

davicavT. piriqiT, unda

vTqvaT, rom saqme gvaqvs

kriminalur reJimTan, rome-

lic arCevnebSi minimum xme-

bis 60 procentis moparvas

apirebs da Tavi CaquCiT un-

da gavuWeWyoT. es unda

iyos Cveni strategia.

_ isev gayalbebis Sem-

TxvevaSi quCaSi gamosvlis

gegmas davubrundebi. xom

SeiZleba saakaSvilma es mS-

vidobiani aqcia okupanti

ruseTis mier saqarTvelos

winaaRmdeg provocirebul

qmedebad miiCnios, euTo da

sxva organizaciebi, fexebze

daikidos da qveyanas Tavad

Seuqmnas safrTxe?

_ ki, safrTxe arsebobs.

daRestnis operacia amis

pirveli magaliTia. ra Tqma

unda, saakaSvili amas gaake-

Tebs da gaukeTebia kidec

msgavsi _ ganmuxurSi, xur-

CaSi, axla lafanyurSi.

vinc aseT safrTxeebs ar

elodeba da mere ityvis _

ase rom ar momxdariyo ar-

Cevnebs movigebdiTo, aseTi

xalxi yvela vano merabiS-

vilis Statiani TanamSro-

melia, aseve, isinic, vinc

eubnebian biZina ivaniSvils,

rom yvelaferi kargadaa.

_ kaxa, yovelTvis am-

bobdi, rom opozicia unda

gaerTiandes da erTiani fr-

ontiT Seutios xelisuf-

lebaso.

_ esec ivaniSvilis ga-

dasawyvetia. varaudebi ma-

qvs, Tu ratom ar xdeba es

gaerTianeba. minda giTxraT,

rom Tu gaerTianeba ar Sed-

geba, opoziciam SeiZleba

absoluturad yvela maJo-

ritaruli olqi waagos.

wagebasa da mogebas Soris,

ratomaa aseTi rTuli ga-

dawyvetilebis miReba, CemT-

vis gaugebaria.

_ isic nu dagvaviwydeba,

rom saakaSvili 2013 wlam-

de arsad midis.

_ parlamentSi umravle-

sobiT mosvla, ra Tqma un-

da, realurad Secvlis qve-

yanaSi politikur klimats.

geTanxmebiT, es ar niSnavs,

rom amiT yvelaferi das-

ruldeba. esaa reJimi, rome-

lic bolomde ibrZolebs,

Tumca parlamentSi umrav-

lesobiT mosvla, es am ar-

Cevnebze gadasawyveti amoca-

naa. es Tu miiRweva, brZola

gamarjvebad CaiTvleba.

Tamar SveliZe

ramdenime dRis win saagento

`iverionma~ informacia gaavrce-

la _ Semoqmedelma episkoposma

meufe iosebma (kikvaZe) mrevls

qadagebisas mouwoda _ arCevnebSi

mxari nacmoZraobas dauWireT,

vinc ar Semoxazavs xuTians, imas

wyevla da SeCvenebao da wyevlis

iseTi korianteli dauyenebia, gu-

rulebi ambobdnen Turme _ wyev-

la rogor ar gagvigonia, magram

aseTi saSineli _ araferio.

aseTi mimarTvebi da qadagebe-

bi ambionidan aRar gvikvirs, mag-

ram amas Tu Semoqmedeli episko-

posi ikadrebda, aRar gvegona;

radgan, vinc gurulebis gaWirve-

bas, siRaribe-siglaxakes icnobs,

amas namdvilad ar izamda; an ra

dasawyevli varT gurulebi, ise-

dac cotani varT?!

cxeli politikuri viTare-

bebis dros guriis macxovreble-

bi yovelTvis gamoirCeodnen si-

TamamiT, gamWriaxobiT, `revolu-

cionerobiT~. is ki ara, mewieTe-

li (sofeli Coxatauris raion-

Si) ubralo glexis biWi,

SemdegSi saxelovani mwerali

Wola lomTaTiZe ruseTis dumis

wevri gamxdara, sisxls uSrobda

Turme imperialistebs da Sen, me-

ufeo, wyevla-krulviT wyvdia-

disken mierekebi gurulebs?

karga xani vyoymanobdi, meufe

iosebze meTqva is, rasac mTeli

guria laparakobs, magram iZule-

buli gavxdi, bolos da bolos

momeTxro is, rac aravisTvis

araa dRes dafaruli.

guriis meufe iosebi is

RvTismsaxuria, Zvirfaso mkiTxve-

lo, romelic, rogorc meufis

naTesav-axloblebi amboben, Zali-

an uyvars patriarqs da surs

mudmivad gverdiT hyavdes, magram

guria ar eTmoba Turme meufe

iosebs. guriisadmi siyvaruli

wyevlaSi rom gamoixata, daina-

xeT, magram gasul wels, ivlis-

Si, sinodis Sekrebaze religiis

kanonze xelis mowerac miumateT,

mwvalebeli gareginis da mixeil

saakaSvilis saameblad da meufis

portretis konturebi moxazuli

geqnebaT.

SarSandeli sinodis Sekrebis

Semdeg dro gavida, Seicvala po-

litikuri situacia saqarTvelo-

Si da axlaxan sinodis Sekrebaze

axali ganCineba gamoitanes.

mRvdelmsaxurTa gadawyvetileba

meufe andriam (gvazava) gorisa

da samTavisis mTavarepiskoposma

gaacno sazogadoebas _ samRvde-

lo pirebs ekrZalebaT politi-

kur procesebSi CarTva.

sinodis wevrebis nawili, al-

baT, emorCileba am gadawyvetile-

bas, magram maTi umetesoba rom

urCia, xedavs amas mTeli saqarT-

velo. ara mxolod meufe iosebi,

meufe abraamic _ dasavleT evro-

pis mitropoliti sazRvargareT

qadagebs nacionalebis mxardaWe-

ras, meufe kalistrate ki, rome-

lic quTaTel-gaenaTeli mTavare-

piskoposis titulis garda, Cem-

Tvis jer dauzustebeli infor-

maciiT, nucubiZis platoze feSe-

nebeluri bar-sastumros mflo-

beli romaa da Tavgadakluli na-

cional-episkoposi, es mTelma sa-

qarTvelom icis da ecodineba ze-

ciur mxedrobasac.

meufe iosebi ufro Sors wa-

sula, mowodebebs aRar dasjere-

bia da wyevlaze gadasula nac-

moZraobis da mixeil saakaSvilis

saameblad. gurul meufes, ramde-

nadac vici, xatva emarjveba, To-

rem meufe kalistratesaviT leq-

sebs dauwerda saakaSvils, ro-

melsac gulis fancqaliT Sex-

vedria da didi amalac dauxved-

rebia guriaSi axlandeli stum-

robisas.

me Coxatauridan var da iq

uamravi nacnobi myavs. erTma me-

gobarma amas winaT gulistkivi-

liT miTxra: TandaTan ivseba ek-

lesia mrevliT, magram maincada-

mainc ver vendobiT meufe iosebs,

romelic cxvirsaxociviT icvlis

ucxour manqanebs da Tavisi epar-

qiis mRvdlebi lamis mojamagire-

ebad daisvaso. yvelaze metad iman

damwyvita guli, mama giorgis

(jibuti) mrevlis winaSe sastiki

Seuracxyofa rom miayena patara

mizezis gamoo.

rogorc aRmoCnda, sakuTari

ZviradRirebuli jipiT Zalian

xSirad xedaven gurulebi meufe

iosebs surebis tyeSi, xe-tyis

biznesebis sakurTxeblad, xolo

RorTafonSi (tyes ewodeba) Co-

xatauridan 5-6km-ze berebis ke-

liebi auSenebia, skebi gaumravle-

biaT da baxmaros da nabeRlavis

surnelovani yvavilebis neqtariT

gamdidrebul tonobiT Tafls ma-

masisxlad yidis Turme guriis

eparqiis patroni. meufe iosebma,

romelmac sazogadoebaSi am bo-

lo xans mawyevari meufis saxeli

daimkvidra, imasac amboben, fui,

eSmaks, da, jixeTis dedaTa monas-

terSi axalgazrda monazoni say-

varlad hyavso.

guriaSi dRemde saarakod da-

dis da zRaprad yvebian meufis

dedis 100-kacian dabadebis dRe-

ebze. did pativs scems Turme me-

ufe dedas _ stilistebs da ma-

nikur-pedikurSicebs qiraobs da

Sanelis da versaCes kabebSi ga-

mowyobils svams dResaswaulebsa

da iubileebze. meufis deda ukve

asakovani qali yofila da Coxa-

taurSi misi mezoblebi amboben,

saxlis saqmeebSi TiTo monazoni

yovelTvis exmareba da emorCile-

ba meufe iosebis dedaso, xolo

ojaxis kuTvnil aTasobiT heqtar

miwas berebi amuSavebeno.

rogorc guriaSi amboben, meu-

fe iosebs xelisuflebis warmo-

madgenlebTan erTad wilebi hqo-

nia sxvadasxva biznesebSi da Za-

lian axlo urTierTobebic hqo-

nia ama qveynis ZlierebTan.

mixeils saakaSvilis namest-

nikTan, amJamad, nacionaluri moZ-

raobis maJoritari deputatobis

kandidatTan ramaz nikolaiSvil-

Tan SeTanxmebiT daSales Turme

sofel xidisTavSi kulturis

saxli da kaklis da wablis Zvi-

radRirebuli masala bolo

fiCxamde gauzidavs meufe iosebs.

soflelebs rom ukiTxavT, sad

migaqvT, isev eklesias movaxmaro-

To, meufes gajavrebuls gulze

mjiRi daurtyams: me mimaqvs da

ra gindaT, axla miTxariTo. xma

ver amouRiaT gurulebs, meufes

ver Sepasuxebian.

ase laparakoben kaTalikos-

patriarqis ilia meoris `lubim-

SCik~ meufe iosebze gurulebi,

romlebsac am bolo dReebSi me-

ufis risxva wyevlad daatydaT

Tavs. meufes wyevla rom axdes,

celiT mosiarule miqel-gabri-

els win da ukan mouwevs sirbi-

li, radgan, ramdenadac vici, mTe-

li guria `qarTul-ocnebas~

uWers mxars da ar amboben, To-

rem saakaSvili `xolerasaviT~

ejavreba TviT adgilobrivi xe-

lisuflebis warmomadgenlebsac

ki.

Cems saTayvanebel guriaSi es

xalxuri leqsi yvelam icis, xo-

lo me kidev erTxel Sevaxseneb

Cvens erTgul mkiTxvels:

`dalocvili qriste RmerTi,

oqros taxtiT dabrZandeba,

xelSi saswori uWiravs,

codva-madli iwoneba~.

iranda kalandaZe

ratom wyevlis meufeiosebi gurulebs?

16 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

qveyanaSi mimdinare politi-

kur procesebze Tavis mosazre-

bas gviziarebs saqarTvelos

mweralTa kavSiris Tavmjdoma-

ris moadgile, galaqtion tabi-

Zis premiis laureati, poeti

baRaTer arabuli

mwerali otia ioseliani

xSirad igonebda, gulmosulma

rogor hkiTxa erTxel wyaltu-

boSi, mis saxlSi stumrad myof

saakaSvils:

_ ras uSvrebi saqarTvelos,

kvlav ukan, gamoqvabulisken mig-

yavso?

_ ara, me wina gamoqvabulis-

ken mimyavso! _ viTom xumrobiT

upasuxia saakaSvils...

es ambavi imitom gavixsene,

rom eWvi ar aris, dRes qveynis

meTaurs saqarTvelo namdvilad

ukan, qvis xanisken da gamoqvabu-

lisken mihyavs... nacionalebisgan

qvebis esoden moxSirebuli

srola da maTi qceva amis maniS-

nebelia!..

rac ufro axlovdeba arCev-

nebi, dRiTi dRe miT ufro mZaf-

rdeba da autaneli (SemaSfoTe-

beli) xdeba saarCevno garemo.

mmarTveli partia yvelafers

akeTebs movlenebis eskalaciisT-

vis, misi mTavari konkurentis

ukanono dasjisa da saarCevno ka-

nonebis monopolizaciisaTvis,

rac saqarTvelos da Cven sazo-

gadoebas sasikeTos arafers mo-

utans da qveyanas samoqalaqo da-

pirispirebas uqadis... am yvela-

ferSi ki pasuxismgebloba, upir-

velesad, xelisuflebas ekisreba,

romelic valdebulia, saarCevno

procesi civilur, demokratiul

kalapotSi moaqcios...

saqarTvelos xelisufleba,

mosaxleoba, partiebi erTxel

da samudamod unda mieCvion Ta-

visufali, demokratiuli prin-

cipebiT arCevnebis Catarebas;

saarCevno vadis gasvlis Semdeg

aravisTvis ar unda iyos trage-

dia xelisuflebidan wasvla da

ufleba-movaleobebis civilize-

buli formiT gamarjvebuli Za-

lisTvis gadabareba, rogorc es

ucxoeTis demokratiul qveyneb-

Si xdeba. arc prezidentisTvis,

arc mTavrobisa da parlamentis-

Tvis xalxs samudamod ar miu-

cia ndobis mandati da misi

sxvisTvis gadacema arc trage-

dia unda iyos vinmesTvis da arc

qveynis daqceva...

dRes ki ra xdeba? 9-10-wli-

ani mmarTvelobis Semdeg nacio-

nalur moZraobas gamouCnda

Rirseuli konkurenti biZina

ivaniSvilisa da misi koalicia

`qarTuli ocnebis~ saxiT da na-

celita agoniaSi, SokSi Cavar-

da! nacionalebma igrZnes, rom

Zalauflebas kargaven da demok-

ratiis, metic, adamianuri ur-

TierTobebis yvela zRvars gada-

vidnen! rogorc Cans, maT ga-

dawyvetili hqondaT (aqvT) xe-

lisuflebaSi samudamod yofna

da ivaniSvilis gamoCena didi

dartyma iyo...

biZina ivaniSvilis finanse-

bis da avtoritetis SiSiT na-

cionalebma kontrolis palata-

Si auditis specialuri samsa-

xuri Seqmnes, romelic mxolod

`qarTuli ocnebis~ represiebiT,

ukanono dajarimebebiT, dayada-

RebebiT aris dakavebuli, maSin,

rodesac am organizaciis umTav-

resi movaleoba saxelmwifo bi-

ujetis xarjvis kontroli un-

da iyos!..

kontrolis palatis am sam-

saxurma, faqtobrivad, gaugona-

ri jarimebi daawesa koaliciis

finansuri SemomwirvelebisTvis,

isini araviTar kanonier dasabu-

Tebas ar iziareben da yvelas,

mxolod `varaudebiT~, ukleb-

liv xuTmagi jarimiT sjian,

rac uprecedento movlenaa ms-

oflio qveynebis saarCevno cx-

ovrebaSi, maSin roca naciona-

lebis Semomwirvelebs mwvane

Suqi aqvT anTebuli da maT par-

tiul salarosTan, viTom neba-

yofilobiT, SemomwirvelTa gr-

Zeli rigebi dgas; quCebi, sat-

ransporto saSualebebi gadafa-

rulia nacionalebis sareklamo

banerebiT, plakatebiT, maSin,

roca arc erTi opoziciuri

partiis baneri an plakati ar-

sad Cans! TiTqmis asevea tele-

viziebSi, radioSi, presaSi da

amas xelisufleba Tanabar

pirobebs eZaxis da xSirad

laparakobs Tavisufali sa-

arCevno garemos aucileb-

lobaze, amasTan, sxvebsac

`mouwodebs~ wesebis dasa-

cavad, rac ucxoelTaTvis

keTdeba, naxeT, ra demokra-

tebi varTo! magram sinamd-

vile sxvaa: `qarTuli ocne-

bis~ TiTqmis yvela Sexved-

ra, ra Tqma unda, xelisuf-

lebis mier provocirebuli

incidentiT, gawev-gamowe-

viT, provokaciiT, qvebis

sroliT, cemiT, Jurnalis-

tebis SeuracxyofiT, gadam-

Rebi videoaparaturis dam-

tvreviT, ocnebis aqtivis-

tebis ukanono daWeriT mT-

avrdeba, rac saarCevno pro-

cess aranormalurs xdis!

qvebis srolas kacobrioba

gamoqvabulidan gamosvlisa

da joguri cxovrebis Semdeg

gadaeCvia, magram saakaSvili,

samwuxarod, am qvebis sroliT,

rogorc ukve iTqva, saqarTve-

los kvlav qvebis xanaSi da ga-

moqvabulSi dabrunebas upi-

rebs!.. es kargad unda dainaxon

Cvenma dasavlelma da amerikel-

ma partniorebma, CvenTan movle-

nilma saerTaSoriso damkvireb-

lebma, radganac saqarTveloSi

`demokratiis Suqura~ didi xa-

nia Caqra da Cven kvlav xelis

cecebiT gviwevs politikur la-

birinTebSi gzis gagneba!..

ormagi standartebiT arCev-

nebis Catareba Cvens qveyanas ve-

rafer sasikeTos moutans! mo-

saxleoba polarizebulia da

amaSi, pirvel rigSi, xelisuf-

lebaa damnaSave! mixeil saakaS-

vili dRes mxolod nacionalu-

ri moZraobis prezidentia _ is

gaemijna danarCen saqarT-

velos, man uaryo danarCe-

ni saqarTvelo; vinc mas

ar uWers mxars, yvela

mtrad, jojod, majlaju-

nad, garewrad, samSoblos

moRalated, warsulis

gadmonaSTad, bneleTis

mociqulad, ruseTis agen-

tad gamoacxada, rac saa-

kaSvilis didi tragediaa;

man sakuTari Tavi saqarT-

velos mosaxleobis um-

ravlesobis gareT daayena

da amiT TviTonve Tqva

uari mTliani saqarTve-

los prezidentobaze! man

dResaswaulebic ki: `did-

goroba~, `beSumoba~, `ba-

xmarooba~, mxolod nacionalur

dResaswaulebad gamoacxada da

sxvebs iq misvla aukrZala. `va-

Jaobac~ ki amis gamo meored Ca-

atares.

rac Seexeba ruseTis agento-

bas: am xelisuflebam Tavisi ne-

biT 37 strategiuli obieqti,

maT Soris gazi, wyali, deni, sa-

komunikacio saSualebebi, wiaRi-

seuli simdidreebi da a.S. ga-

dasca ruseTs! am dros sxvebis-

ken TiTis gaSvera gaRma Sedave-

bis uazro politikaa da meti

araferi! xelisufleba xSirad

apelirebs ivaniSvilis gundis

Zvel kadrebze (?!), maSin rode-

sac nacionalebis gundi, maTi

sadebutato sia, maJoritarebis

umravlesoba SevardnaZis droi-

dan kargad axsovs xalxs; eseni

arian Zveli komkavSirelebi,

moqkavSirelebi, raikomis mdiv-

nebi, deputatebi, ministrebi, da

a.S. romlebic 15-20 welia qar-

Tul politikaSi aqtiurad

trialeben sxvadasxva partieb-

Si; romeli erTi CamovTvaloT:

TviTon mixeil saakaSvili vin

iyo? vin iyo mixeil maWavaria-

ni? xaTuna gogoriSvili? gigi

wereTeli? eldar kvernaZe? me-

rab samadaSvili? andac ruseTis

samTavrobo da uSiSroebis sam-

saxurebTan axlobeli pirebi;

kaxa benduqiZe, grigol vaSaZe,

koba nayofia da sxvebi!..

saakaSvili opozicias _`qar-

Tul ocnebas~ eubneba: meti saq-

me ara maqvs sadme wavide da Ce-

mi aSenebuli Tqven dasangrevad

CagabaroTo! vis eubneba amas sa-

akaSvili? biZina ivaniSvils?

romelmac, rodesac mas aravin

avaldebulebda da veravin daaZa-

lebda 1 miliard 300 milioni

lari daxarja qarTuli saxel-

mwifoebriobis gansamtkiceblad,

jaris, policiis, sxvadasxva in-

frastruqturis mSeneblobis

dasafinanseblad, skolebis, saa-

vadmyofoebis, gzebis, eklesia-

monastrebis mSeneblobisa da

restavraciisTvis, Cinovnikebis

xelfasebisTvis, gaWirvebulTa

da avadmyofTa daxmarebisTvis,

kulturis, xelovnebis, sazoga-

doebis uxelfasod da upensi-

od darCenili cnobili warmo-

madgenlebis stipendiebisTvis!

maSin, rodesac xelisuflebis

warmomadgenlebi, TviTon prezi-

denti da misi ministrebi, saa-

kaSvilis naTesavebi, ojaxis

wevrebi, romlebsac xelisufle-

baSi mosvlamde araferi gaaCn-

daT, uceb milionerebi gaxdnen!

saidan? zeciuri, RvTaebrivi

madli gadmovida maTze Tu ra

moxda? saxelmwifos, igive Cve-

ni biujetis, ucxouri grante-

bis miTvisebiT, elitaruli ko-

rufciiT, monopoliuri samsa-

xurebis SeqmniT maT saqarTve-

loSi sakuTari saxelmwifo

Seqmnes, sadac mxolod TviTon

grZnoben zRaprulad Tavs! maT

sakuTari komunizmi aiSenes sau-

keTeso xelfasebiT, 100-aTasia-

ni premiebiT; samsaxuris Zvi-

radRirebuli manqanebiT da di-

di qonebiT! maT daaviwydaT, rom

Cvens qveyanaSi dRiTi dRe mrav-

ldebian nagvis urnebSi Cayude-

buli, uxelfaso, umuSevari,

upensio adamianebi, damcirebul-

ni, Seuracxyofilni; daaviwy-

daT, rom arsebobs, xelisufal-

Tagan mitovebuli, ganwiruli

saqarTveloc, romelic maT mxo-

lod arCevnebis dros agondebaT

da 20-30-larian vauCerebiT, da-

pirebebiT, erTTviani dasaqmebe-

biT, kvlavac motyuebiT apireben

xalxis moqrTamvas, sabolood

ki _ arCevnebis gayalbebas!.. aqe-

danve Sesaswavlia xelisufle-

basTan Sekruli, misi dakveTiT

(dafinansebiT) momuSave socia-

luri kvlevis samsaxurebis saq-

mianoba! isini gegmazomierad, wi-

naswar atareben saeWvo kvle-

vebs; partiebis reitingebis Se-

saxeb amkvidreben azrs, TiTqos-

da nacionalur moZraobas or-

jer meti mxardamWeri hyavs,

vidre qarTul ocnebas da sxva

opoziciur Zalebs, rac mosax-

leobis zombirebis, amgvari

mcdari azris damkvidrebis

mcdelobaa arCevnebis gasayal-

beblad! amis Sesaxeb aqedanve

unda gafrTxildnen es organi-

zaciebi da maTi saTao ofisebis

warmomadgenlebic an moxdes

obieqturobiT cnobili sxva, ne-

itraluri socialuri kvlevis

samsaxurebis mowvevac; am sa-

kiTxSi opozicia valdebulia,

erToblivi ZalisxmeviT, saswra-

fod imoqmedos, Torem mere, ro-

desac xelisufleba maTi kvle-

vis, Sedegebis Sesabamis cifrebs

dadebs arCevnebze, aRaraferi

eSveleba! endiais da airais

kvlevebi saqarTveloSi xeli-

suflebis dakveTiT da aq naci-

onalebis arasamTavroebis, ar-

Cevnebis gamyalbebeli, igive

TarxniSvilis colis da sxvaTa

pirdapiri monawileobiT mimdi-

nareobs, rac gansakuTrebuli

eWvis sababs iZleva! asevea eg-

zitpolebis sakiTxic! wina ar-

CevnebSi egzitpolebis gayalbe-

bisaTvis gia nodia da Temur

iakobaSvili ministris Tanamde-

bobebiT daajildoves!

_ aseTi warmatebuli saqar-

Tvelo arasodes yofilao! _

xSirad moismenT prezidentisgan

da misi uRirsebo, fuls da ka-

rieras daxarbebuli, saakaSvi-

lis monebad qceuli nacionale-

bisgan! magram yvelam icis: xe-

lisuflebis ugunurobiT teri-

toriebis ocprocentdakargul

saqarTvelos warmatebuli

ver daerqmeva!.. ucxoeTSi

milionnaxevar moqalaqega-

daxvewil, Svilebdakargul

qveyanas warmatebuli ver

daerqmeva!.. soflis meurneo-

bamoSlil da mrewveloba-

daqceul, biznesdayaCaRe-

bul, umuSevrobiT gawame-

bul saqarTvelos warmate-

buli ver daerqmeva!.. elita-

rul korufciaSi Caflul

da gaRatakebul mosaxleo-

bis patrons, uxelfaso,

upensio, umuSevar, uimedo

da uperspeqtivo adamianebis

samSoblos warmatebuli ver

daerqmeva!..

saqarTvelos mosaxleo-

bam swori daskvna da arCeva-

ni unda gaakeTos!

erT mxaresaa: 9-10-wlia-

ni ukanono, usamarTlo,

ugunuri `moRvaweobiT~, saqarT-

velos teritoriebis dakargviT,

mkvlelobebiT, daWerebiT, daya-

daRebebiT, represiebiT, sakuTa-

ri keTildReobisa da gamdidre-

bisaTvis dauokebeli ltolviT,

xalxis xarjze auracxeli qo-

nebis dagrovebis surviliT

cnobili xelisufleba, da meo-

re mxares dgas biZina ivaniSvi-

li, didi qvelmoqmedi, samebis

taZris amSenebeli, misi erovnu-

li, patriotuli, sazogadoeb-

rivi da saxelmwifoebrivi saq-

mianobiT cnobili mamuliSvili,

romlis fiqri saqarTvelos mo-

mavalze, aRorZinebaze, TiToeu-

li qarTvelis ukeTes cxovreba-

ze ocnebis axdeniskenaa mimar-

Tuli!..

rogorc Cveni didi winapari

ityoda: `Sen gijobs aw rome-

li(Ta)?!~

saakaSvili saqarTvelos qvis xanaSi dabrunebas upirebs...

17saerTo gazeTi#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

vesaubrebiT kino-

dokumentalists, ba-

ton gia Wubabri-as

_ batono gia, ax-

la winasaarCevno pe-

riodia, rac TavisTa-

vad garkveul daZabu-

lobas, amave dros Si-

nagan mobilizacias

gulisxmobs. did po-

litikas didi preten-

ziebi aqvs. Tqveni az-

riT, SerCa saqarTve-

los diplomatiuri

potenciali?

_ iseTi rTuli saxelmwifos

marTva, rogorc saqarTveloa, Zalian

Znelia. samwuxarod, winaT saqarTve-

lo politikuri moRvaweebis impor-

tiori iyo. ruseTis pirveli dumis

Tavmjdomare gaxldaT karlo CxeiZe.

deidaCemisgan maxsovs, yveboda mis

Sesaxeb. sityviT gamodioda, roca

Svilis sikvdili Seatyobines. warbi

ar Seuxria, ise daamTavra gamosvla

da mere mixeda Tavis mwuxarebas. ram-

denadac maxsovs, mere parizSi Tavi

moikla. aseve ruseTis pirvel duma-

Si gaxldaT kaki wereTeli, rome-

lic, sxvaTa Soris, saCxeris raioni-

dan gaxldaT, Worvilas pirdapir

rom sofelia _ gorisa, iqedan.

brwyinvale politikosi da oratori

gaxldaT es pirovneba. da kidev bev-

ri sxva adamiani SeiZleba CamogveTva-

la, vinc qveynis farglebs gareT ake-

Tebda Tavis saqmes, inteleqtualuri

importi xdeboda.

_ iqneb raRac sistemis Secvla-

caa saWiro?

_ erTi ram unda gvaxsovdes: Tu

demokratiul qveyanaSi gvinda cxov-

reba, prezidentebi unda icvlebod-

nen. brwyinvale sistemaa amerikis Se-

erTebul StatebSi _ oTx weliwad-

Si erTxelaa arCevnebi. aseTi cvale-

badoba aris demokratiis maCvenebeli.

aravis ar unda hqondes imis ufleba,

dajdes prezidentis savarZelSi da

fexi ar moicvalos.

es farTo masStabis sakiTxebi

gaxlavT da amaze minda yuradReba ga-

maxvildes, Torem Ciora ras gvelapa-

rakeba ekranidan, naklebad maintere-

sebs. pirvel rigSi, pirovnebebi, mo-

qalaqeebi unda iyvnen: daxvewilebi,

imitom, rom qveyanas xalxi qmnis.

Tundac aviRoT Cveni xandaxan uazro,

tolerantoba. 1997 wels germaniaSi,

dortmundtSi filmis premiera mqon-

da. kargad maxsovs germanelebi ro-

gori SeSinebulebi iyvnen _ 6 mili-

oni Turqia ukve CvenTan Semosuli

da 30 meCeTi aqvT aSenebulio. germa-

nelebs, amxela ers eSinia asimilaci-

is, Cven sami milioni varT. amdeni

xalxi moskovSi erT kvartalSi

cxovrobs. qarTuli miwa zRaprulia,

modis yvela, visac ar ezareba, Cven

xom yvelasTvis kargi maspinZlebi

varT. aman mogvitana teritoriuli

problemebi da kidev ra moxdeba,

RmerTma uwyis. tolerantobasac Ta-

visi sazRvrebi aqvs.

_ CvenTvis umjobesi iqneba erT-

maneTi ufro gviyvardes, vidre sxve-

bi...

_ meCvidmete saukuneSi italieli

misioneri piedro de la vale werda:

qarTvelebi ise rom ebrZodnen mters,

rogorc erTmaneTs ebrZvian, maTi qve-

yana didi xnis win iqneboda Tavisu-

falio. RmerTma mogvca stumarTmoy-

vareobis didi niWi,

Tbili buneba, magram

gvaqvs mankiereba,

orpiroba, orgulo-

ba. merve saukuneSi

ioane sabanisZem Tqva

qarTvelebze: `irxe-

vian viT lerwamni

qarTagan ZlierTa~.

meTvramete saukune-

Si hegelma Tqva,

qarTvelebi meryevi

sulis xalxiao.

dRevandel dRes 21-

e saukuneSi yovel-

dRe vxvdebiT amis

magaliTebs. medro-

veebiTaa qveyana savse. ilia WavWavaZe

mokles qarTvelebma, amaze uaresi ra

unda eqnaT. puSkini da lermontovic

mokles ruseTSi, magram iq sul sxva

situacia da mizezi iyo. me ar megu-

leba qveyana, sadac eris mama moek-

laT, miT umetes aseT patara qveyana-

Si.

_ pataraa qveyana da esec bevr

problemas qmnis. rogor fiqrobT, ki-

dev didxans viqnebiT ruseTsa da ame-

rikaze damokidebuli?

_ saqarTvelo mTeli xmeleTis

nuli mTeli ori measedi Tu iqneba.

Zalian pataraa, magram amave dros Za-

lian adgilzea. panamis arxiviTaa,

masze gadis gza CrdiloeTidan samx-

reTisaken. amitom sWirdeba ruseT-

sac, amerikasac da sparseTsac. sta-

linma Tqva, yvelaze naklebi borote-

ba Cveni ruseTTan SeerTeba iyoo.

jobia, aravisze iyo damokidebuli,

magram roca aseTi patara qveyana xar,

jobs, urTierToba daabalanso did

mezobel saxelmwifoebTan. ruseTma

amdeni xnis manZilze erTi jariska-

cic ki ar gaiyvana okupirebuli te-

ritoriebidan da arc aravin atexavs

oms Cveni gulisTvis.

_ ra gamodis, ar viyaviT mzad da-

moukideblobisTvis?

_ diax. mTavari problema TiToe-

ul CvenTaganSia. franc kafka ambob-

da: inteligenciis mTavar amocanas

Seadgens erovnul mankierebaTa Cvene-

ba da gawmenda. saqarTvelos TiTqmis

aRar hyavs namdvili inteligencia. me

dokumentalisti var da Cven, reJiso-

rebi, pirvel rigSi, adamianTmcodnee-

bi varT. bevr rames sxvanairad vuk-

virdebi. vuyureb televizias, guli

mereva, ra terminologiiT, ra qarTu-

liT saubroben. rogori cinizmiT

laparakoben biZina ivaniSvilze, rom

mas qveynis ukan, sabWoeTSi dabrune-

ba unda da kidev amgvar sisulele-

ebs. es aris Tavxeduri tyuili,

WuWyi da me mikvirs im xalxis, vinc

Tavisi nebiT exveva am sibinZureSi.

Tamuna qadagiZe

mgzavroba rom mogi-

wevs xolme saqarTvelos

qalaqebSi, raionebsa da

soflebSi, naxav, yvela

transportze, TvalSi mo-

saxvedr adgilebSi sul

yvelgan, didi formate-

biT aRbeWdilia e.w. `na-

cionaluri moZraoba~ da

maTi saarCevno nomeri

`5~, okupirebuli aqvT

mTeli saarCevno sivrce.

`nacionalebi~ aseTi ara-

nacionaluri Zalisxmieri

meTodebiT moqmedeben, ax-

la rom SeinarCunon xe-

lisufleba, mere xom Ti-

Tis ganZrevas marTlac

veravin gabedavs, rogorc

daimuqra saakaSvili.

SevafasoT maTi saar-

Cevno sloganebi.

1. dasaqmebao, magram

riT? sakvirao bazro-

bebT? droebiT mSeneblo-

bebiT? ucxoeli stumre-

bis momsaxurebiT? aravi-

Tari sabaziso mimarTu-

lebebis SemoTavazeba mo-

saxleobis myari, mudmivi

garantirebuli dasaqmebi-

saTvis.

2. jandacva yvelaso.

janacvis ufleba axlac

yvelas aqvs, magram ris

safasurad? dazRvevebio,

_ gaiZaxian. dazRvevebi

isev xalxis gadasaxade-

biT Seqmnili biujetis

xarjze ar keTdeba?

3. Zlieri sofelio

kargi slogania, oRond

baton biZina ivaniSvili-

sagan gadamRerebuli. mag-

ram Zlieri sofeli Zli-

er soflis meurneobas

eyrdnoba. Zlieri soflis

meurneoba qarTuli miwe-

bis ucxoelebze gayidvi-

Ta da qarTvelTa ayriT

am miwebidan unda Seiqm-

nas? Tanac soflis meur-

neobis ganviTarebis ara-

viTari kompleqsuri

programa.

4. meti sargebeli

xalxs _ pirze akeriaT

`nacionalebs~. ra sarge-

beli moutanes xalxs?

gaRatakeba da ucxoeTSi

gadaxvewa? kvlav bundo-

vani dapirebebi, kvlav

bundovani dapirebebi,

kvlav rebusebi.

5. xolo 1000 laria-

ni vauCeri _ es aris

amomrCevlis pirdapiri

mosyidva. erTi sityviT,

yvelaferi im standar-

tul wreze brunavs, ro-

melzedac wina arCevnebis

periodSi brunavda `nac-

moZraoba~. kritika gves-

mis, vTqvaT, romelime pi-

rovnebebisagan romelime

pirovnebaze, magram iseTi

cilismwamebluri anti-

reklama, rac biZina iva-

niSvilis winaaRmdeg mim-

dinareobs. ver Tavsdeba

zneobis raime kategoria-

Si. amoraluria es anti-

reklama. politikur

brZolasac xom gaaCnia

morali? magram xalxma

icis da sjera, rom biZi-

na ivaniSvilis programa

Seqmnis swored saqarTve-

los swrafi ganviTarebis

SesaZleblobas, safuZ-

vels, xolo `nacionale-

bisa~ kvlav ukusvlisken

waiyvans qveyanas.

batoni biZina ivaniSvi-

li TanamSromlobda `na-

cionalebTan~ im imediT,

rom qveynis ganviTarebas

Seuwyobda xels. magram

ver gaaTeTra Savi yorani

_ xelisufleba.

Tavad rom mova

xelisuflebaSi da

Tavad iqneba sakuTa-

ri finansebis ganm-

kargavi, realurad

ar moaxmars xalxs?

rasakvirvelia, mo-

axmars da mere ro-

gor! ai, aseTi kaci

RmerTma mogvivlina

qarTvelebs yofna-

aryofnis Jams.

da am kacis uer-

Tgulesi Tanamebr-

Zolia batoni irak-

li alasania. cxov-

rebis mokle periodSi man

gamoiara didi sabrZolo

gza, gamoibrZmeda poli-

tikurad, icis xalxis

problemebi da maTi ga-

dawyvetis gzebic. Sinaga-

nad ramxela amaRlebuli

unda iyo, rom daZlio pi-

radi gancdebi qveynis in-

teresebisaTvis da gamar-

To Serigebis dialogi im

mxaresTan, romlis Seia-

raRebulma formirebebma

mama dagixvrites. ramde-

nime Sexvedris Semdeg man

didi ndoba moipova afxa-

zebisa da rom ara Cveni

dRevandeli xelisufle-

bis arakoreqtuloba, Se-

rigebis gzebi ixsneboda,

saakaSvilsa da mis gare-

mocvas Cven ar vendobiT

da afxazebi da osebi mi-

endobian? gamoricxulia.

es unda gvaxsovdes yve-

las da gansakuTrebiT

devnilebs.

afxazeTisaken gza sa-

megreloze gadis. aq de-

putatad gvWirdeba kaci,

romelsac afxazeTSi pa-

tiviscemiT miiReben da

endobian. amitom yvela

zugdidelma da arazugdi-

delma, yvela devnilma,

yvelam, visac saqarTve-

los gamTlianeba surs,

xma unda misces naRd qar-

Tvels irakli alasanias!

senakSi gansaxlebulo

devnilebo, mTeli raioni

unda amouyenoT gverdSi

afxazeTis mkvidrs, cno-

bil mwerals da sazoga-

do moRvawes guram odi-

Saras, raTa speqtakli

`zRva, romelic Soria~

soxumSi daedgaT, afxa-

zebTan erTad vuyuroT da

davgmoT samaradJamod

Tavsmoxveuli undobloba.

devnilTa saerTo

krebis saxeliT

saqarTvelos uxucesTa

darbazis

aRmasrulebeli mdivani

p-pp `Cveni afxazeTis~

Tavmjdomare

roland niJaraZe

`Cveni qveyana pataraa,magram rTuli _ aseTi

rTuli saxelmwifos marTva Zalian Znelia~

arCevani gvmarTebs ucdomeli

18 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

gasul kviras saqarTvelo

lopotas xeobaSi umowyalod

Caxocil 14 axalgazrda meo-

mars dastiroda da rogorc

qisti dedebi icemdnen gulSi

mjiRs, simwriT ikvnetdnen

tuCs da mdumare glovaSi aq-

sovdnen gulis balRams, ise

iyo yvela qarTveli deda...

auRelveblad ver Sevxede

daxocilTa gvamebs teleek-

ranze da maSinve mivxvdi: qis-

tebis sikvdilma ufro damise-

ra guli da qarTvelebisa _

imdenad ara...

yvelam viciT, raubedureba gaiara CeC-neTma bolo wlebSi,magram saqarTvelomra ubedurebac naxa,TviTon varT amis

momswre. afxazeTisomidan dawyebuli,samoqalaqo omiT, av-RaneTis, erayis omeb-Si uazrod CaxociliqarTveli biWebis ci-nkis kuboebiT Camos-veneba Cveulebriviambavi gaxda, cxinva-lis omSi rom CveniZmebis sisxli da Zva-li iyo erTmaneTSiaTqvefili, amasac ga-vusworeT Cveni aTas-gzis ubedurebis mx-ilveli Tvali, nac-moZraobam, am bandam,sisxlsmowyurebul-ma xrovam rom zogiquCaSi Caxoca da zo-gi sadRac tye-RreSi,rogorc sanadirodgamzadebulma mdeva-

rma, aravinaa amis gam-kiTxavi. Cven aRar gv-ikvirs qarTvelebisxocva da Jleta arcqarTvelebisgan, arcafxazisgan, arc osis-gan, arc rusisgan,arc avRanelisgan, er-ayelisgan da TviT imdidebuli amerikeli-sganac.

megobrobaze, urTierTgata-

naze, vaJkacobaze, namusis Se-

naxvaze ucxoeTSi filmebs

iReben, radgan aseTi mcnebebi

iq TiTqmis gamqralia.

CvenTan rac darCa, isic

undaT waSalon da Zveli kav-

kasiuri fic-vercxloba mtro-

biT da gautanlobiT Secva-

lon. amaze ocnebobda yovelT-

vis mteri da amitomac iyo

marTlmorwmune vainaxebSi mu-

sulmanoba rom CaTeses. aq

rom mTel kavkasia marTlmadi-

debeli qristiani yofiliyo,

xom warmogidgeniaT, ra gulis

xeTqva eqneboda zogierTebs.

aTeuli wlebia Crdilokav-

kasielebi TavianTi samSob-

losTvis (samSoblo xom gan-

yenebuli mcneba araa?) ibrZvi-

an, sisxls Rvrian, qalebic

iaraRasxmuli omoben. daingra

CeCneTi, ganadgurda grozno,

gadaixvewnen CeCnebi, inguSebi,

yabardoelebi da Tan waiRes

guliT samSoblo.

marto zviad gamsa-xurdia ki ara, iliaWavWavaZec ambobda,Cveni saSveli araaCrdilokavkasiele-bis gareSeo. zviad

gamsaxurdias `saer-To kavkasiuri sax-lic~ ki undoda Seeqm-na. mas CeCnebi dResackavkasiis prezidentseZaxian.

ki, magram, zogierTi mety-

vis, umizezod araferi xdeba,

raimeSi isinic iqnebodnen dam-

naSaveo.

es araa gamarTleba.

araviTari politika ar

wydeba adamianebis gareSe, xo-

lo adamiani, romelic `poli-

tikas~ qmnis, yvelaze Zvirfa-

sia TviT am `politikaSi~...

amboben, rom, savaraudod,

`qarTul politikas~ Seewir-

nen es biWebi, romlebmac uari

Tqves ivaniSvilis likvidacia-

zeo. ivaniSvilis likvidacia,

madloba RmerTs, ar moxda,

magram maSin gamecineba mwared,

aseT daujerebel ambavs Tu

ityvis es xelisufleba garkve-

uli drois Semdeg: gamoZiebam

aCvena, rom es axalgazrdebi

ivaniSvilis mokavSireebi yofi-

lan da qarTuli saxelmwifo-

ebriobis dangreva udodaTo...

am biWebis sisxli daaRr-

Cobs xelisuflebas gankiTx-

vis dRes. es aris bolo wve-

Ti nacionaluri mTavrobis

codva-madlis fialaSi...

yvela qarTvels,yvelas stkiva dResqistebis e.i. CeCnebistkivili. Cveni sxeu-li, dafleTilia daaRar gvtkiva, Zmebo,axla Tqveni sxeuligvtkiva...

iranda kalandaZe

Cveni sxeuli aRar gvtkiva, Zmebo,axla Tqveni sxeuli gvtkiva...

mirdadi: kargadd Tqvi, SSen, benoon, zedd-

metadd bevri yuri gaqvs, amitom ar gesmis,

magram erTi yuri rom gqonodda, romelic

moismendda, dda gaigebdda, aRar ddagWirddebodda

mtkiceba.

benooni: undda moviddes saiddumlo mgzavri,

raTa ganikiTxos msoflio dda Cven, kiddobnis

mgzavrni, ddavjddebiT masTan erTadd samsjav-

roze. SSevuddgeT samzaddiss gankiTxvis ddRi-

saTvis?!

mixail naimi

au, magrad vicine...

es ra gavige, xal-

xooo... nacionale-

bis siis #10, pir-

ze rZeSeumSrali baRana,

vinme marina Tu mariam sa-

jaia - nacionalebis cnobi-

li aqtivistis nazi aroni-

as Svili yofila... xom

gaxsovT es matrakveca qa-

li? axla Svili ravari

matrakveca da mazakvali

iqneba, xom warmogidgeni-

aT... nazi aronias Svilis

gulisTvis SecvaleT kano-

ni, Tqve farCakebo?

guSin mixeil saa-

kaSvili iyo Casu-

li samtrediaSi...

miusamZimra im da-

Rupuli eqimis ojaxs, ro-

melic specoperacias See-

wira... dedam miatira - Sen

momikali Svili... saakaSvi-

li mainc mivida am qalTan

da gadaexvia... ra Tqma un-

da, televiziebma es aCve-

nes, anu gadaxvevis momen-

ti... gamovida saakaSvili

ojaxidan... dRes samtredi-

is gamgebels uflebamosi-

leba SeuCeres... daibares

(vin daibara gamgebeli da

ra gvaria Tavad gamgebeli,

es imaT gaarkvion, vinc in-

fos moiparavs, rac araer-

Txel moxda) da uTxres...

Tavad miSam kidev calke

gaurCia saqme - rogor ver

moaxerxe, Se boTe da uvar-

giso (misi sityvebia), oja-

xi Semzadebuli dagexved-

rebinao..

ise, ra maintere-

sebs da, senatori

maq qeini ris sa-

fuZvelze svams

kiTxvebs da arkvevs aris

Tu ara esa Tu is pirovne-

ba ruseTTan kavSirSi. sena-

tori saqarTvelos moqala-

qea Tu am arCevnebSi saku-

Tari partiiT gamodis?

ramdeni? rodemde?

ratom? es aris

warmatebuli de-

mokratia? sadac

adamianebs yovelgvari ga-

samarTlebis gareSe, ad-

gilze xvreten.. norvegi-

elma teroristma, andres

breivikma 77 adamianis si-

cocxle imsxverpla, magram

breiviki aravis dauxvre-

tia adgilze da dResac

“Tavs kargad grZnobs”. am

biWebs ki miakereT sityvi-

erad “teroristebi” da

CacxrileT.. saqarTvelos-

Tan SedarebiT, amxela qve-

yanas _ britaneTs 2 tero-

risti ar hyavs da saqarT-

velos xelisuflebam 3-mi-

lionian qveyanaSi bolo

wlebia 300-mde `teroris-

ti” aRmoaCina da Cacxri-

la, adgilze. qveyanaSi sa-

dac sikvdiliT dasja ga-

uqmebulia xalxs adgilze

xvreten.. raRatom gaauqmeT

sikvdiliT dasja Tuki

adamianis sicocxles ase

xelaRebiT, erT wamSi

xelyofT??? TviTmfrinavis

biWebs komunistebma bolo

sityva mainc aTqmevines.

SvebiT amovisunT-

qe! goka, Cveni go-

kuna gamogvesarCla

“despoti biZinasa-

gan” daCagrul maswebs...apa,

rava egona “meocnebe Su-

rismaZiebels?! magis dasas-

jeli maswebi iqeT moi-

kiTxos. ra uflebiT ga-

nacxada:”yvela xmis gamyal-

bebels davsjio, maT Soris

maswavleblebsaco...”aba, bi-

Wo, SegveSinda...

xalxis azriT

19saerTo gazeTi#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

politikaSi wasvlamde

ioseb juRaSvili Ramis 2 sa-

aTze Cadis saguramoSi. qal-

baton olRa guramiSvils (i-

lia WavWavaZis meuRles) aR-

viZebinebs ukve daZinebul

ilias da masTan saubarSi

mTel Rames atarebs. mxolod

amis Semdeg midis ioseb ju-

RaSvili politikaSi. ilias-

gan unda moesmina stalins im

“saerTo niadagis Teoriis”

Sesaxebac, romelic ilia

WavWavaZes “aRmaSeneblis sa-

qarTvelos” modelze hqonda

Seqmnili. arsSi, aRmaSeneb-

lis Zlieri saqarTvelos

Semnas, did sivrceze gadaWi-

muli mravalerovani qveynis

unitarul (erTi kanonis Za-

liT marTvas), adgilze ki

(soflebisa da regioniebis

doneze), qarTuli Temisa da

xodabunebis principiT -

TviTmarTvelobas gulisxmob-

da. (es ebrauli kibucebis is

tipiuri modelia, romlis

mniSvnelobazec qarTuli

soflis aRorZinebisTvis

patriarqma araerTxel isa-

ubra). sadac mTis Temis

principiT, yvelaferi sauke-

Teso erTad grovdeba da Sem-

deg Tanabrad nawildeba mo-

saxleobaze. saubedurod, bev-

rma qarTvelma arc ilias

“saerTo niadagis Teoriis”

da arc satalinis Sesaxeb

bevri araferi icis. farise-

velTa memkvidreebi, romle-

bic msoflio mediis, gamom-

cemlobebisa da saerTaSori-

so saionformacio korpora-

ciebis mflobelni arian,

“filtrSi” atareben da

cxrilaven yvelafers, rac

gonierma adamianma ar unda

gaiziaros. amisTvis ki gau-

naTleblobis danergvaa saWi-

ro. aki, nergaven kidec. ada-

mianebma “sxvisi tviniT, sxvi-

si WkuiTa da gonebiT” unda

iazrovnon. mxolod teelek-

ranidan reklamirebuli wam-

lebi unda dailon, raTa wi-

naparTa mier gamocdili da

dadebiTi Sedegis momcemi sa-

SualebebiT ar ganikurnon.

amiT adamianebis ricxvi deda-

miwaze unda Semcirdes. dar-

Ces mxolod zombirebuli da

marTvadi raodenoba, romle-

bic farisevelTa mona-mosam-

saxured morCilad imuSavebs.

mikroCipebiT marTvadi gaxde-

ba da nebismier dros, ro-

gorc “uvargis teqnikas” sa-

Wiroebisamebr “gamorTaven”.

Tu kacobrioba gons ar movi-

da, “feradovani revolucie-

bis” dasawyisi _ “wiTlebis

proletaruli revolucia”

(romelic dResac grZelde-

ba), male “wyvliTa krulviT

(daCipuli sazogadoebiT)

daRdasmuli mSieri monebis

qveyanisa da msoflios saxes

miiRebs”! sadac CipebCadgmu-

li “msoflio moqalaqeebi

moklaven dedas, moklaven ma-

mas _ Tuki partia ubrZanebT

amas”! dRevandeli msoflios

telemayurebelsa da mkiTxve-

lis umetesobas ki mxolod

is unda miewodos, rac mis

mxedvelobaSi, cnobierebasa

da mexsierebaSi unda CaibeW-

dos. es is “sasurveli in-

formaciaa”, rasac farise-

velTa memkvidreebi “sabWoe-

Tis” drosac da dResac, me-

diisa da presis saSualebiT

dozirebulad da damaxinje-

bulad awvdian sazogadoebas.

dakvirvebuli adamiani aRmoa-

Cenda, rom plakatebsa Tu

suraTebze eSmaki umetesad

wiTeli feris, xelSi samka-

piT (samkbiliani “kverTxiT”)

gamoisaxeba. wiTeli qristes

sisxls ganasaxierebs. sami

ki uflismieri samebis simbo-

loa. amitomaa “xuTosani wi-

Teli eSmakunebis” Tavyrilo-

bebsa da SekrebebSi wiTeli

feris aseTi siWarbec. wiTe-

li feri agresiulobiTac ga-

moirCeva da adamianis cnobi-

ers Trgunavs. wiTeli feri

gamoiyeneba saroskipoebsa da

“bordelebSic”, sadac so-

dom-gomoriseuli orgiebi

ewyoba. qalaq ierusalimis

droSa, (iudevelTa miwad

cnobili adgili, sadac fa-

risevlebma qriste jvars av-

nes), erTi erTze imeorebs

nacionalebis droSas, magram

narinjisferia. nacionalebma

is alisfrad (sisxlisfrad)

Secvales. aRmaSeneblisTvis

didgoris brZolisas naCuqa-

ri “jvarosnebis droSac”

wiTeli iyo, magram ara ise-

Ti sisxlisferi, rogoric

dRevaneli saxelmwifo dro-

Saa. maSin is jer kidev Sin-

disferi iyo. “nacionaluri

moZraobis gariJraJzec”,

Yyvela Senobasa da dawese-

bulbaze “jvarosanTa xuTjv-

riani droSis” aRmarTva da

sisxlisfrad misi Secvla

hitleris mier svastikiani

droSebis aRmarTviT im qvey-

nis okupacias niSavda. eSmake-

uli (sisixlisferi) droSis

saxelmwifo droSad gamocxa-

deba erTgvari gzavnili iyo

“farisevel-masonTa msoflio

saZmosadmi”, rom nacionalebi

RvTismSoblis wilxvedr sa-

qarTveloSi sisxlis gubee-

bis dasayeneblad da qristes-

mieri eris Tavisuflebisken

swrafvis sisxlSi CasaxSo-

bad emzadebodnen. RvTismSob-

lis wilxvedri saqarTvelos

mimarT am ganzraxvasac fari-

sevelni xan ruseTSi, xanac

dasavleTSi Canergili Tavi-

anTi agentebis meSveobiT

axorcilebdnen. saqarTveloc

da yvela qarTvelic, sanam

srul simarTles ar gaigebs

politikaSi ioseb satalinis

wasvlis Sesaxeb, manamde iqne-

ba is zogisTvis tirani, zo-

gisTvis “boroti genia”, zo-

gisTvis kidev iseTi provneba,

rogoradac mas masonur-glo-

balisturi samyaro warmo-

aCens dRemde. yvelaze didi

da WeSmarit informaciasac

swored farisevelni floben

qarTveli iosebis Sesaxeb.

maTTvis yvelaze did safr-

Txes, (irkveva, rom) maSinac

da axlac qarTveli warmoad-

genda! amis dasamalad amaxin-

jebdnen istoriul faqtebs

aTeisti bolSevikebic da ama-

xinjeben maTi memkvidre glo-

balisti masonebic viTom

qarTveli nacionalebis xe-

liT. marTlmadideblurma

samyarom SesaniSnavad icis

simarTle stalinis pirovne-

baze. amisTvis gamoucxades

marTmadideblur samyaros

globalistma-masonebma sas-

tiki omic. “demokratiis sa-

xeliT” gaanadgures serbeT-

is, saberZneTis, rumineTis,

bulgareTis eklesiebi. rigSi

saqarTvelosa da ruseTis

marTlmadidebluri eklesiebi

dgas! WeSmariti Rirebulebe-

bic da Tavisuflebac, mTel

msoflioSi swored amisTvis

Caanacvles e.w. “demokrati-

ulma da liberalurma Rire-

bulebebma”.

stalinis Temis arapopu-

larobis miuxedavad, masze

simarTlis Tqma aucilebe-

lia! gansakuTrebiT aucile-

belia qarTvelebisgan, rom-

lis Rirseul Svilsac ioseb

stalini warmoadgenda. ara im

vai-qarTvelebisgan, vinc

grantebiTa da farisevelTa

dafinansebebiT SekveTil

statiebsa da publikaciebs

aqveyneben. vinc masze srul

informacias ar flobs da

mxolod “bolSevikuri isto-

riis saxelmZRvaneloebidan”

icis “stalinis kultisa da

tiraniis” Sesaxeb. arc im

ucxoeli viTom mwerlebis-

gan, vinc sakuTar istorias

ar icnobs wesierad da sxve-

bis “biografiul cxovreba-

ze” bestselerebs qmnis. ara-

med simarTlis dadgena, pir-

vel rigSi, saqarTvelos da

qarTvelebis valia! somxebs

stalinis msgavsi fugura

rom hyolodaT, mTel msof-

lios gadasWamdnen tvins.

(kidev kargi, jerjerobiT

stalinic armenad ar gamo-

ucxadebiaT sxvebis msgavsad)

es is bumberazi figuraa, ro-

melic mTel msoflios azan-

zarebda da Cans dResac azan-

zarebs, radgan masTan brZo-

las misi sikvdilidan amdeni

xnis Semdegac ar eSvebian.

romlis winaSe qeds ixridnen

iseTi didi politikosebic

ki, rogoric uinston CerCi-

li da ruzvelti iyo. rom-

lis saxelTanac dakavSirebu-

lia dedamiwis meeqvsedis fa-

Sizmisgan gaTavisufleba. pi-

rovneba, romelmac wina sau-

kunis dasawyisSi antimarTl-

madideblur-globalisturi

procesis _ “msoflio pro-

letaruli revoluciis da-

wyebas” wertili dausva. be-

rebisgan politikaSi gagzav-

nili adamiani, romelmac pe-

terburgSi CasvlisTanave iq

arsebuli 28 masonuri loJa

daxura da sastiki brZola

gamoucxada “mxecis msa-

xurT”. im droisTvis 20-iani

wlebisTvis stalins, mxo-

lod 9 marTlmadidebel ada-

mianze SeeZlo dayrdnoba,

radgan mis irgvliv da poli-

tikaSi myofi danarCeni Se-

madgenloba farisevel-Tal-

mudistTa warmomadgenlebiT

iyo dakompleqtebuli. brZo-

lis dasawyebad ki SigniT Ca-

nergva da “qajeTis cixis”

Signidan dangreva iyo saWi-

ro. am faqtis dasturad co-

ta xnis win mosmenil erT pa-

teriks gavixseneb: “ erT

RvTismosav da ucodvel bers

Turme eSmaki gadaekida. xan

aqedan miudga, xan _ iqedan

da verafriT acduna. erT

dResac keliaSi misul bers

Turme eSmaki sawolze damj-

dari daxvedria. eSmakma bers

uTxra: ” mTxove, rac ginda

da Segisruleb. mxolod amis

Semdeg daganebeb Tavso”. ber-

ma eSmaks misi mxarze Sesma

da ierusalimis wminda adgi-

lebis monaxuleba sTxova,

razec eSmakma uari ver Tqva.”

paterikis morali aseTia: be-

ri borotebas Seajda zed da

mas keTili saqme akeTebina!

stalinic swored im boro-

tebas ebrZoda, Slida da an-

grevda Signidan, romeli bo-

rotebac dRes gvinadgurebs

erovnul identurobas, qar-

Tul suls, marTlmadideb-

lur mrwamss. xelisuflebis

qveda eSelonebSi mokalaTe-

buli mravalricxovani fari-

sevlebi ki Tavisi saqmis ke-

Tebas_ inteligenciisa da

maTlmadideblebis xocvas ag-

rZelebdnen. revoluciis win

peterburgSi leninTan erTad

daxuruli vagoniT Casul

uzarmazar farisevel masaTan

sabrZolvelad ki mtkice xe-

li, udreki foladiseburi

xasiaTi da pirovnulis (xan-

daxan sakuTaris, qarTulis

droebiT gawirvac) ki iyo

saWiro, radgan vinc (qalde-

veli huri abraamiviT) umTav-

resis, ideisa da mrwamsis ga-

dasarCenad `sakuTars~ sas-

worze ar debs, _ is mizans

ver aRwevs.

nawyveti gamosacemi

wignidan

`qristes rjulisTvis

mebrZoli mxedari~.

baia amaSukeli

wiTeli eSmakunebi

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

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20 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

rogorc cnobili gaxda,

lopotas xeobaSi Catarebul

sisxlian speoperaciasTan dakav-

SirebiT, CeCnuri mxaris inicia-

tiviT Seiqqmna incidentis Sem-

swavleli komisia, romelsac

emigraciaSi myofi CeCneTis yo-

fili kulturis ministri axmed

zakaevi uxelmZRRvanelebs. man sa-

qqarTvelos xelisuflebas Ta-

namSromlobas ukve SesTavaza da

aRRniSna, rom Tu qqarTuli mxare

urTierTTanamSromlobaze uars

ityvis, maT gaaCniaT sakmarisi

resursi, rom daadginon realu-

rad ra moxda.

aRRniSnul sakiTxebTan dakav-

SirebiT `̀saerTo gazeTs~ saer-

TaSoriso organizacia `̀kavkasi-

el xalxTa konfederaciis~ Tav-

mjdomare zaal kasreliS-vili esaubra.

- axmed zakaevma lopotas

sisxliani incidentis garSemo

gamoZieba daiwyo da saqarTve-

los xelisuflebs erToblivi

komisiis Seqmnas sTavazobs, mag-

ram, vfiqrob, nacxelisufleba

masTan ar iTanamSromlebs, anu

informacias ar miawvdis, Tu ma-

inc daTanxmda, maSin drois gay-

vanis taqtikas daadgeba, rom,

ase vTqvaT, tkivili gaanelos

da daZabuloba gaaneitralos.

TviTon zakaevi kavkasiel xal-

xebSi (rogorc kavkasiaSi, ise

mis farglebs gareT) cudi re-

putaciiT ar sargeblobs, magram

mas verc CeCneTis kanonieri xe-

lisuflebis samarTalmemkvid-

red moiazreben, radgan emigra-

ciaSi masze bevrad ufro avto-

ritetuli CeCnebi cxovroben.

isini CeCneTis saxelisuflebo

ierarqiaSi rangiTac da titu-

liTac ufro maRla idgnen, vid-

re zakaevi, romelsac kultu-

ris ministris Tanamdeboba eka-

va. miuxedavad amisa, Cvens orga-

nizacias es arCevani Zalze moe-

wona. es saqme CeCnurma mxarem

unda gamoiZios, Tu simarTles

ityvian xom kargi, Tu ara da

Crdilokavkasielebma magaTve

mosTxovon pasuxi. Cveni qveynis

interesebidan gamomdinare, Zal-

ze kargia, CeCnurma mxarem rom

iTava es gamoZieba, Tumca isic

unda iTqvas, rom zakaevTan da-

kavSirebiT bevri eWvi arsebobs.

- ras gulisxmobT?

- zakaevsa da Cvens xelisuf-

lebas Soris boris berezovski

dgas, romelic Cveni xelisuf-

lebis warmomadgenelTa megoba-

ria. telekompania `pikic~ (pir-

veli kavkasiuri) Tavis droze

man daafinansa. axla vis xelSia

es telekompania, ar vici, magram

misi saqmianoba mxolod bere-

zovskis interesebs SeiZleba em-

saxurebodes. kavkasielebis in-

teresebs rom ar emsaxureba,

amas nebismier dros davamtkiceb

Ria eTeriT gamarTul debateb-

Si. Cveni organizaciis or

wevrs _ CeCensa da inguSs, rom-

lebic kavkasiaSi ar cxovroben,

daukavSirdnen da am komisiaSi

monawileoba SesTavazes. `kavka-

siel xalxTa konfederaciis~

gamgeoba kolegialuri organoa,

erTian gadawyvetilebas vRebu-

lobT, maqsimalurad vcdilobT

yvelas interesi da Rirseba da-

culi iyos, amitomac davTanxm-

di, rom maT muSaobaSi monawi-

leoba miiRon, oRond komisiis

SemadgenlobaSi ki ar Sevidnen,

mxolod am incidentis gamoZie-

bamde daexmaron, radgan Cven am

xalxTan urTierToba manamdec

ar gvqonia.

vfiqrobT, zakaevi simarT-

lis damalvas ver gabedavs, 11

adamianis mkvlels xels ver da-

afarebs, Tu daafarebs, maSin Za-

lian cudad daamTavrebs. is Se-

ecdeba yvelaferi obieqturad

gamoiZios im martivi mizezis

gamo, rom Sansi gauCnda aRidgi-

nos CeCnebis TvalSi Selaxuli

reputacia. mas reputacia maSin

Seelaxa, roca doku umarovTan

dakavSirebiT evropul medias

mZime interviuebi misca, Tanac

igi Ria dialogSi Sevida ramzan

kadirovTan, maTi

Sexvedris Taobaze.

marTalia, es Sex-

vedra ar Sedga da

arc dialogi gagr-

Zelda, magram am

ori mizezis gamo

zakaevis avtorite-

ti kiTxvis niSnis

qveS dadga. Tu za-

kaevi am incidents

obieqturad ar ga-

moiZiebs, Cven da

kidev ramdenime

arasamTavrobo or-

ganizacias gvaqvs

imis meqanizmebi,

rom situacia obi-

eqturad vakontro-

loT.

Cven am etapze

ar gvinda konkre-

tuli pirebis vinaoba davasaxe-

loT da maT braldeba wavuye-

noT, es zakaevma gaakeTos. Tu

misi komisia simarTles ityvis,

daveTanxmebiT, Tu simarTles

damalaven da saqarTvelos xe-

lisuflebis wisqvilze daasxa-

men wyals, saqarTvelos mosax-

leobas pirobas vaZlev, rom ko-

misiis mTeli Semadgenloba se-

riozulad daisjeba da es ar

iqneba marto Cveni organizaciis

iniciativa, kavkasiis yvela eris

warmomadgeneli maT sakadris

pasuxs gascems. rac Seexeba Ta-

vad zakaevs, mas Zalze mkacrad

mosTxoven pasuxs CeCnebi.

- Tqven savaraudo damnaSave-

ebis vinaoba ukve gcodniaT. iq-

neb is mainc gviTxraT, konkre-

tulad, raSi miuZRviT maT bra-

li?

- Cveni saqmianobidan gamom-

dinare, cxadia, bevr informaci-

as vflobT. rac Seexeba am saq-

mes, Cveni informaciiT, ori

versia ganixileba. pirveli - aw

ganadgurebuli jgufis wevrebi,

eqvsi Tvis win saqarTveloSi

Camoiyvana erovnebiT CeCenma pi-

rovnebam, romelTanac saqarTve-

los xelisuflebis mxridan Su-

amavlobda erTi qarTveli. meo-

re versiis mixedviT, es xalxi

didi xania (daaxloebiT ori we-

lia) midi-modian saqarTveloSi,

xvdebian xelisuflebis warmo-

madgenlebs, TanamSromloben,

oRond ra Temasa da sakiTxze

ver getyviT, Tumca namdvilad

TanamSromlobdnen. xsenebul Ce-

Censa da qarTvels, savaraudod,

kidev erTi CeCeni da qarTveli

ematebian. swored es meore qar-

Tveli yofila, rogorc ityvian,

pirveli kvalis gamWreli. is

saqarTvelos xelisuflebis sa-

xeliT Cavida evropaSi erT-erT

CeCenTan erTad da iq mcxovreb

Crdilokavkasielebs partnio-

roba SesTavaza. maTi vinaoba vi-

ciT, magram Segnebulad ar vasa-

xelebT, sjobs, zakaevma da mis-

ma garemocvam daasaxelos, mere

rame rom ar dagvabralon. pir-

velad Tqveni gazeTis saSuale-

biT vambob, rom Zalze seriozu-

li mediasaSualebebis warmomad-

genlebma mTxoves, iqneb rekomen-

dacia gagviwioT evropaSi

mcxovreb Tqveni organizaciis

wevrebTan, rom maTTan CavideT

da maTi meSveobiT aviRoT in-

terviu axmed zakaevisgano. erTi

martivi mizezis gamo vuTxari

uari, Cvens Jurnalistebs iq

ruseTis interesi rom daxvdeT,

mere Zalian gagviWirdeba imis

axsna, rom Cven arafer SuaSi

varT. dameTanxmebiT, rom ruse-

Tis politikuri xelmZRvanelo-

basa da specsamsaxurebs Zalze

didi interesi eqnebaT sisxlia-

ni incidentisa da zakaevis ko-

misiis mimarT. amitom mets aRa-

rafers vityviT, dae, es Wiri-

suflebma, CeCnebma gaakeTon. Cven

mere davafiqsirebT Cvens pozi-

cias, vin ambobs simarTles da

vin _ ara. es aris erTaderTi

gamosavali, rom saqarTvelos

mimarT eWvi da risxva movxsnaT.

- ambobT, zakaevsa da saqar-

Tvelos xelisuflebas Soris

boris berezoski dgaso. ra kav-

Siri aqvs zakaevs masTan?

- zakaevs politikuri TavSe-

safari Tavisi kavSirebis meSve-

obiT berezovskim gaukeTa. es

ukanaskneli, mas Semdeg, rac

ruseTidan gaagdes, ufunqciod

iyo darCenili. is miliarderia,

magram arc erT strategiul

obieqts ar flobs, am, ase

vTqvaT, sazogadoebrivad aqti-

ur adamians, aranairi gavlena

ar aqvs ruseTze. mas ruseTSi

gavlenebis mosapoveblad radi-

kaluri opozicioneris imijis

mopoveba sWirdeboda, amitomac

Cado Tavisi antiputinuri gan-

wyoba cecxlmokidebul Crdilo

kavkasiaSi. berezovskim ifiqra,

rom dasavleTSi garkveuli

wreebisTvis da Tundac ucxou-

ri specsamsaxurebisTvis am Te-

miT ufro saintereso gaxdebo-

da. amitomac daiaxlova axmed

zakaevi, romelsac manamde ic-

nobda, anu elcinis mmarTvelo-

bisas, roca berezovski uSiSro-

ebis sabWos mdivani iyo da biz-

ness ikeTebda CeCneTis omze.

Semdgom amas daemata masa da za-

kaevs Soris pirovnuli urTi-

erTobebi, romelmac saqarTve-

loSi gadmoinacvla. saqarTve-

loSi zakaevis mimarT arsebul-

ma kargma ganwyobam da berezov-

skis saqarTvelos xelisufle-

basTan siaxlovem, raRac etapze

berezovskis Seuqmna imiji, rom

is kavkasiaSi gavleniani moTama-

Sea, viTarebas flobs, marTa-

lia, garkveuli segmentisas,

magram mainc. garda amisa, bere-

zovskis axlandeli meuRle Ce-

Cenia. misma colis Zmebmac, rom-

lebic ukrainasa da evropaSi

warmatebuli biznesmenebi arian,

Seuqmnes imiji, rom is aris

adamiani, romelsac postsabWo-

ur sivrceSi, kerZod, kavkasiaSi

angariSi unda gavuwioT da vi-

megobroT, radgan mas iq proce-

sebSi monawileobis miReba Se-

uZlia.

- modiT, lopotas sisxlian

specoperacias davubrundeT,

romlis garSemoc uamravi kiTx-

vebi kvlavac arsebobs. xeli-

suflebam gvamcno 11 mebrZolia

moklulio. Svidis vinaoba gvam-

cnes da musulmanuri wesiT da-

ikrZalebiano. sad aris danarCe-

ni oTxis cxedari, isini saer-

Tod Tu arsebobdnen bunebaSi?

- Svidive daRupuli saqarT-

velos moqalaqea, aqedan oTxi

aq daibada, samma ki 90-ian

wlebSi miiRo saqarTvelos mo-

qalaqeoba. am Svidi adamianidan

erTi avstriidan Camoiyvanes, me-

ore londonidan, mesame ki fi-

neTidan. Tu risTvis Camoiyvanes,

yvelam kargad vnaxeT. sad aris

danarCeni oTxi cxedari, ver

getyviT. saerTod, tyuili am

xelisuflebis cxovrebis wesi

da urTierTobis formaa. ro-

gorc Cans, es oTxi marTlac ar

arsebobs, Torem imas mainc

ityodnen, identifikacia mimdi-

nareobso. amaT samxedro speco-

peraciis imxela speqtakli dad-

ges, rom vfiqrob, mere Sercx-

vaT imis aRiareba, Svid kacs

rom ebrZodnen.

* * *

televiziiT gavrcelebul

kadrebSi daRupulebis Tanasof-

lelebi acxadebdnen, rom cxed-

rebi RamiT, Cumad, yovelgvari

ganbanvisa da religiuri ritu-

alis gareSe daasaflaves, ramac

profesional (yofil) policie-

lebSi didi eWvi gaaCina, iyvnen

ki isini SeiaraRebuli Setakebi-

sas mokluli (am versiam eqs-

pertebSic didi eWvi gamiwvia,

11 meomris brZolis dros ase

erTbaSad mokvla gamoricxu-

liao – m.s.). isini sxva meTo-

diT, Tundac sawamlaviT xom ar

daxoces da mere es specopera-

cia gaiTamaSeso. xom naxeT

cxedrebs eqsperti ki ara, sasu-

liero pirebic ar miakares,

romlebic musulmanuri wesiT

apatiosneben cxedars maT eWvi

rom ar gasCenodaTo. am versias

rom aqvs arsebobis ufleba, za-

al kasreliSvilic eTanxmeba.

- gavrcelebul versiebze

ras gvetyviT, am jgufs erT-eer-

Ti qarTveli parlamentari ga-

samrjelos fasad TurqeTSi ga-

dayvanas Sepirda da `gadaagdo-

o~? isic iTqva, rom maT daRes-

tanSi marTlac undodaT gadas-

vla, iqidan siriaSi rom wasu-

liyvnen amboxebulebis dasaxma-

reblad.

- rac Seexeba maT TurqeTSi

gadasvlas, SeiZleba jgufis

romelime wevrma, ubralod, sax-

lSi Tqva, TurqeTSi mivdivaro.

vici, romel parlamentarzecaa

saubari. absurdia imis mtkiceba,

daRestnidan unda gadasuliyvnen

siriaSio. erTaderTi TurqeTi-

dan Tu moxvdeba adamiani siri-

aSi uproblemod. Tu imis Tqma

undaT, rom azerbaijanis gav-

liT wavidodneno, jer erTi

azerbaijani maT ar gaatarebda

da meorec, azerbaijanidanac

ver moxvdebodnen TurqeTSi ase

Cacmulebi da aRWurvilebi. am

versiis avtorma, vfiqrob, saer-

Tod ar icis geografia da ru-

ka TvaliT ar aqvs nanaxi.

manana suxiSvili

zakaevsa da Cvensxelisuflebas Sorisberezovski dgas...

21saerTo gazeTi#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

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SSeeTTqqmmuulleebbeebbii eeZZeebbooss..

qarTvelebi Rrmad arian

darwmunebuli, rom maTi damou-

kideblobisa da erTgvari usaf-

rTxoebis mTavar garants war-

moadgens amerikis SeerTebuli

Statebi, romelic saqarTvelos

dauTmobs ruseTs rame ufro

didi _ erayis, avRaneTis, Crdi-

loeT koreis, libiis, axla ki

ukve siriisa da iranis sanacv-

lod. maT uWirT gageba imisa,

rom zesaxelmwifoebi iSviaTad

vaWroben TavianTi mokavSiree-

biT _ maT mxolod is SeuZli-

aT, daTmon gavlena im qveyneb-

Si, romlebic TanamSromlobis

aSkara survils ar gamoxataven.

es iSviaTad, magram mainc xdeba.

Tu didi saxelmwifo xelTaTma-

niviT icvlis partnior qvey-

nebs, is am tituls didxans ver

SeinarCunebs. gamovTqvaT imedi

imisa, rom saqarTvelo didi

qveynebis TamaSebSi sajildao

qva ar gaxdeba. Tumca arc is

aris gamoricxuli, ruseTma ki-

dev scados saqarTveloSi SeW-

ra, iseve rogorc veravin gamo-

ricxavda 2008 wlis agvistos

omis dawyebas.

saqarTvelo yuradRebiT

adevnebs Tvals kavkasia-2012-

is swavlebebs, romelic saqar-

TveloSi 1-li oqtombris sa-

parlamento arCevnebs emTxveva

da amitomac Cndeba ruseTis

xelaxali agresiis SiSic.

ra xdeba sinamdvileSi?

zogierT qarTvel eqsperts

mcdari warmodgena aqvs ruse-

Tis xelisuflebaze _ maTi az-

riT, axlandeli ruseTi Tavne-

ba saxelmwifoa, romelsac ar

gaaCnia aranairi wesebi da val-

debulebebi vinmes winaSe.

ruseTi marTlac cdilobs,

sagareo politikaSi iTamaSos

_ Taviseburad interpretire-

buli, damaxinjebuli, mcdarad

interpretirebuli, magram ma-

inc saerTaSoriso wesebiT.

raSi vlindeba es?

upirvelesad imaSi, rom

moskovi iseTs arafers ake-

Tebs, rasac paralels ver mo-

uZebni dasavleTSi.

magaliTad _ ratom gaaWia-

nura omi 2008 wlis agvistom-

de, ratom ar SeiWra saqarTve-

loSi maSinve da angariSi ar

gauwia aravis, ratom cdilob-

da sababis moZebnas, dros kar-

gavda qarTuli soflebis da-

bombvaze, Tuki putini da med-

vedevi saerTaSoriso donis

Tavneba politikosebi arian?

rogorc ukve aRvniSneT,

ruseTi cdilobs mibaZos da-

savleTs. Tqven aRiareT koso-

vo _ Cven vaRiarebT afxazeTsa

da samxreT oseTs, Tqven Caata-

reT operacia serbiaSi iZule-

biTi mSvidobis dasamyareblad

_ Cven mSvidobis iZulebas

afxazeTsa da samxreT oseTSi

vcdilobT...

dasavleTs kosovo rom ar

eRiarebina, ruseTi araviTar

SemTxvevaSi ar gaakeTebda ima-

ves afxazeTisa da samxreT

oseTis mimarT, Tundac saakaS-

vils putini liliputinad as-

jer moexseniebina pirdapir

eTerSi. agvistos dasawyisSi

provokaciebi swored imas em-

saxureboda, rom saqarTvelos

sapasuxo cecxli gaexsna da

swored is TamaSi gaeCaRebina,

rac nato-m serbiaSi gaiTamaSa.

amitomac gulubryvilod

Cans liberal eqspertTa mo-

sazreba, TiTqos SeiZleboda am

omis Tavidan acileba _ amisT-

vis sakmariso iqneboda dabomb-

vaze ar epasuxaT. omi gardau-

vali iyo _ ara imitom, rom

putini ganawyenebulia saakaS-

vilze, aramed imitom, rom da-

savleTTan angariSebi gasaswo-

rebeli iyo, Tanac _ Zalian

swrafad. amas ruseTi ver gaeq-

ceoda.

axla teritoriul sa-

kiTxebSi angariSi sayaimoa _

1:1.

amitomac ar sWirdeba ru-

seTs axali provokaciebi afxa-

zeTis an samxreT oseTis te-

ritoriaze. axla iq iseTi si-

Cumea, rac bolo wlebis gan-

mavlobaSi arasodes yofila.

Tumca arsebobs sxva Tama-

Sic, sadac angariSia 1:0. es

libiaa.

ai, aq ki ruseTs namdvilad

gauCnda SesaZlebloba, gamoiye-

nos Tavisi fantazia da Semoq-

medebiTi energia.

saamisod ki viTareba libi-

is msgavsad unda ganviTardes

_ anu saqarTvelos mTavrobam

gaanadguros opozicia, cecxli

gauxsnas mSvidobian moqalaqe-

ebs... aseT dros mamaci 58-e ar-

mia saqarTvelos mosaxleobis

dasaxmareblad gaemarTeba da

angariSi gaxdeba 1:1.

oqtombris dasawyisSi sa-

qarTvelos mZime da rTuli

arCevnebi elis _ ueWvelia,

ruseTis armia yuradRebiT

Tvals miadevnebs im movlenebs,

rac xmis micemas mohyveba. ope-

racia kavkasia-2012-s masTan

uSualo kavSiri ara aqvs. saq-

me sxvagvarad aris _ Tu mie-

cema sababi, ruseTi mas gamoi-

yenebs: kavkasia-2012-s an dau-

kavSirebs, an ara.

ruseTi saerTaSoriso we-

sebis imitacias axdens. vidre

sababi ar eqneba, saqarTvelos-

ken ar gaixedavs. sasxletze

TiTis gamokvris roli SeiZ-

leba Seasrulos nacionalebsa

da biZinistebs Soris gamar-

Tulma namdvilma omma.

yvelaferi mainc xelisuf-

lebis xelSia _ man unda Caa-

taros normaluri arCevnebi da

metismeti xmebi ar miiweros,

zomiereba daicvan da sixarbe

ar gamoiCinon.

oriode sityva `ruseTsa da

somxeTs Soris derefnis~ Te-

oriaze, Tuki dasavleTi irans

oms gamoucxadebs. es varianti

ruseTs saqarTveloSi SeWris

saSualebas miscems da mas da-

matebiTi sababi ar dasWirdeba.

Teoriulad es SesaZlebelia _

Tu dasavleTi iranSi SeiWreba,

ruseTi, sapasuxod, saqarTve-

los Seutevs da angariSi

kvlav 1:1 gaxdeba.

realurad, irans ukve aTi

welia emuqrebian da bolos da

bolos, unda gavacnobieroT _

dasavleTSi veravin gabedavs

80-milionian iranSi SeWras.

maqsimumi, rac SeiZleba mox-

des, es aris aviadartymebi

birTvul obieqtebze, Tumca

esec nakleb savaraudoa.

qarTvel sazogadoebas gaaC-

nia yvelanairi Sansi, Tavidan

aicilos dapirispireba ruseT-

Tan. amitomac qarTvelebma unda

gamoiCinon odnavi goniereba ma-

inc.

inosmi.ru/sngbaltia

ruseTis saokupacio jare-

bis afxazeTidan da cxinvalis

regionidan gamoyvana, TavianT

saxlebSi devnilTa swrafad

dabruneba mniSvnelovanwilad

damokidebulia imaze, Tu ro-

gori damokidebuleba aqvs ru-

seTs CrdiloeT kavkasiis mi-

marT _ sadac, bolos da bo-

los, unda damyardes stabi-

luroba, samarTlianoba da

mSvidoba. amitomac saqarTve-

loSi yovelTvis interesiT

akvirdebian mezobel regionSi

mimdinare procesebs, magram iq

arsebuli mdgomareoba jerje-

robiT damSvidebis sababs ar

iZleva. metic _ garkveuli Za-

lebi CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi im-

denad Zabaven viTarebas, rom

SesaZloa, igi nebismier dros

farTomasStabian omSi gadai-

zardos.

amis fonze gakvirvebas da

SeSfoTebas iwvevs teritori-

uli dava ori vainaxuri res-

publikis _ inguSeTisa da CeC-

neTis meTaurebs Soris, rasac

provokaciis elferi dahkravs.

am dReebSi groznom pretenzi-

ebi gamoTqva mezobel respub-

likaSi malgobekis raionis na-

wilsa da mTlianad sunJenis

raionze _ es teritoriebi is-

toriulad CeCneTis sakuTreba

iyo (1992 wlamde, vidre CeC-

neT-inguSeTi or respublikad

gaiyofoda) da isini kanonier

mflobelebs unda daubrundes.

mxolod amis Semdeg unda ga-

ivlos respublikebs Soris

sademarkacio sazRvario. Tu

CeCneT-inguSeTis sazRvris sa-

davo sakiTxi adgilze ver

mogvardeba, CeCneTis xelisuf-

leba federaluri centris

CarTvas gegmavs.

CeCnebma pretenziebis Sesa-

xeb gancxadeba gaakeTes da saq-

mis praqtikul ganxorcieleba-

sac mohkides xeli _ inguSeT-

Tan sazRvris dasadgenad Seqm-

nes samTavrobo komisia, ro-

melSic parlamentis wevrebisa

da ministrebis garda cnobili

istorikosebi da sazogado

moRvaweebic arian. am komisiis

pirveli sxdoma ukve gaimarTa

seqtembris dasawyisSi.

CeCneTis xelmZRvanelobas,

romelmac dudaevis `damnaSave

reJimis~ xelmowerili doku-

mentebis gauqmeba ganizraxa, me-

zobeli Zmuri respublikis da-

Sinebas sayveduroben _ adre

problemebs uxucesebi da reli-

giuri liderebi uxmaurod agva-

rebdnen, axla ki moskovis mxar-

daWeriT arian gulmocemulni.

inguSeTSi CeCneTis xeli-

suflebis gamomwvev qcevas

provokaciad afaseben. Tanaxma-

ni arian, monawileoba miiRon

sazRvris dadgenaSi, magram ka-

tegoriulad ewinaaRmdegebian

mis Secvlas _ amas seriozu-

li konfliqti mohyvebao.

axla, roca mTlianad

CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi, gansa-

kuTrebiT ki mezobel daRes-

tanSi eTnikuri da religiuri

mZafri brZolebia gaCaRebuli;

roca inguSeTs uamravi

ltolvili hyavs da mezobel

osebTan mougvarebeli teri-

toriuli problemebi aqvs,

groznos wamowyebuli teri-

toriuli kamaTi kavkasiolo-

gebs inguSebisTvis zurgSi

maxvilis Cacemad miaCniaT.

ar aris gamoricxuli, mos-

kovisgan frTaSesxmul kadi-

rovs mada gaezardos, isargeb-

los daRestanSi Seqmnili

mdgomareobiT da pretenzia

ganacxados groznos sazRv-

rispira hasaviurtis raion-

zec, romelic 1921 wlamde

CeCneTs ekuTvnoda. kavkasiis

sakiTxTa eqspertebi acnobie-

reben, rom dapirispirebis axa-

li keris Seqmna mtris wisq-

vilze wylis dasxmis tolfa-

si iqneba da regionSi stabi-

lurobisa da mSvidobis damya-

reba kidev ufro gadavaddeba.

mimoxilva moamzada

g.WavWavaZem.

ruseTi saerTaSoriso wesebis imitacias axdens.

vidre sababi ar eqneba, saqarTvelosken ar gaixedavs

vis sWirdeba axali konfliqti vainax Zmebs Soris

saRi azri agresiis winaaRmdeg

22 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

Zvaluka, anu fexis didi TiTebis

deformacia erT-erTi yvelaze gavr-

celebuli orTopediuli problemaa,

romelic umTavresad mSvenieri sqe-

sis warmomadgenlebs awuxebT.

mamakacebSi didi TiTebis defor-

macia metad iSviaTad viTardeba da

umeteswilad terfis mikrotravmebi-

Taa gamowveuli.

qalebSi mas ramdenime mizezi

aqvs. maT Soris mTavaria terfis di-

di TiTebis myesTa Tandayolili de-

feqti, romelic qalbatonebs memk-

vidreobiT gadaecemaT dedisgan.

Zvalukas medicinaSi hilus vagu-

si ewodeba. igi banaluri brtyel-

terfianobiT iwyeba.

mogexsenebaT, adamianis terfi

kunTebis, Zvlebis, myesebisa da ioge-

bisgan Sedgeba. rodesac adamians

brtyelterfianobis gamo ganivi Ta-

Ris defeqti uviTardeba, misi didi

TiTis falangis gverdiT erTmaneTis

paralelurad mdebare falangebi da

maTTan erTad TiTebic maraos msgav-

sad iwyebs gaSlas. es moZraoba arc

ise negatiuri iqneboda, danarCen Ti-

Tebs cerac rom ayoloda, magram igi

am dros sxvebis msgavsad maraose-

burad ki ar iSleba, piriqiT ter-

fis SigniT ixreba; Sedegad _ saxsa-

ri formas icvlis, didi TiTis fa-

langi nawilobriv gamodis saxsri-

dan da sagrZnoblad idrikeba, es ki

iseTi Sesaxedia, TiTqos cera TiTis

fuZesTan patara girCi gamoizarda

an axali patara Zvali ganviTarda,

swored amitom miiRo terfis aseT-

ma deformaciam xalxSi girCis sa-

xelwodeba.

terfi CaquCs

daemsgavsa

terfs da gansa-

kuTrebiT ki mis cera

TiTs mudmivi kontaq-

ti aqvs fexsacmel-

Tan, ris gamoc is ga-

mudmebiT iWyliteba

da travmirdeba, zian-

deba misi kani, iyvli-

feba da deformire-

buli adgili kudev

ufro metad ziandeba.

bolos ki yalib-

deba saxsris anTeba

da dasawyisSi `girCis~ adgilas uk-

ve Zvlovan-xrtilovani wanazardi

warmoiqmneba.

droTa ganmavlobaSi deformire-

buli didi TiTi zians ayenebs mezo-

bel TiTebsac: isini iZulebuli xde-

bian moixaron da arabunebrivi mimar-

TulebiT imoZraon, ris Sedegadac

terfi CaquCis formas Rebulobs.

rogor moviqceT

Zvalukas mkurnalobis mxolod

erTi _ qirurgiuli meTodi arse-

bobs.

erTxans pirdapir xrtilovan wa-

nazards an didi TiTis Zvals kveT-

dnen. dRes damokidebuleba radika-

lurad Seicvala _ Zvaluka aRiqmeba

ara mxolod didi TiTis (rogorc

adre miaCndaT), aramed mTeli ter-

fis daavadebad, amitom mkurnalobac

kompleqsuria da terfis yvela sax-

srisa da myesis koreqcias gulisx-

mobs.

operaciamde rekomendebulia kom-

presebi, iodis badeebi, masaJi, sam-

kurnalo mcenareTa naxarSis Tbili

abazanebi, magram gaxsovdeT, rom es

mxolod droebiTi saSualebania,

romlebic aseve droebiT Sedegs iZ-

leva. maTi daxmarebiT mcirdeba ter-

fSi anTebiTi procesi da misi Tanm-

devi tkivilic klebulobs, magram

problema bolomde mougvarebeli

rCeba _ deformirebuli terfis sa-

fuZvliani mkurnaloba mxolod da

mxolod qirurgiuli wesiTaa SesaZ-

lebeli.

axali saswavlo wlis da-

wyebis kvaldakval, pediku-

lozTan (datilianeba) erTad,

gansakuTrebul aqtualobas

iZens paraziti WiebiT gamow-

veuli daavadebebi.

ra daavadebaa enterobio-

zi? rogor moviqce, rom Svi-

li ar damiavaddes? Tu mainc

dainficirda, tradiciuli

preparatebiT vumkurnalo Tu

aratradiciul saSualebebs

vendo? _ es is kiTxvebia,

romlebze pasuxic bevri mSob-

lisTvis aris saintereso.

enterobiozi yvelaze gavr-

celebuli helminTozia (para-

zituli WiiT gamowveuli da-

avadeba), mas wvrili, patara,

TeTri feris maxvilboloebia-

ni Wia _ enterobiusi iwvevs,

romelic nawlavSi moxvedris

Semdeg kvercxs debs da mrav-

ldeba. parazitis kvercxi sak-

maod mdgradi da gamZlea ga-

remos araxelsayreli faqto-

rebisa Tu madezinficirebeli

saSualebebis mimarT. garemoSi

paraziti 25 dRe cocxlobs,

kanalizaciis milebSi ki 7-dan

21 dRemde inarCunebs gamrav-

lebis unars.

vviinn SSeeiiZZlleebbaa ddaaaavvaadd-

ddeess

eenntteerroobbiioozziiTT??

daavadebisgan saimedo da

gansakuTrebuli dacvis saSua-

leba ar arsebobs _ SesaZloa,

daavaddes nebismieri adamiani,

nebismier asakSi, Tumca daava-

debulTa umravlesoba 3-idan

10-14-wlamde asakis bavSvebi

arian, yvelaze metad ki es da-

avadeba 4-6 wlis bavSvebSi

aRiniSneba.

ggaannssaakkuuTTrreebbiiTT aavvaaddoobbeenn::

1. bavSvebi, romelTa de-

debsac orsulobis meore

trimestrSi toqsikozi aRe-

niSnebodaT;

2. xelovnuri sakvebiT ga-

mozrdilebi;

3. xangrZlivad da xSirad

moavadeni;

4. patarebi dabali socia-

luri statusis mqone ojaxe-

bidan;

5. im sabavSvo baRebisa Tu

skolebis aRsazrdelebi, ro-

melTa Senobebic ar akmayofi-

lebs dadgenil normativebs.

daavadebis wyaro mxolod

adamiania, amitom mcdaria mo-

sazreba, rom enterobioziT

bavSvi SesaZloa Sinaurma

cxovelma daainficiros.

rrooddiiss uunnddaa

ggaammoovviikkvvlliiooTT bbaavvSSvvii

ddaaaavvaaddeebbiiss ZZiirriiTTaaddii ssiimmpp-

ttoommeebbiiaa::

muclis tkivili, xSiri

gulisreva da Rebineba, kuW-

nawlavis traqtis anTebiTi

daavadebebi, advilad gadaRla,

gaRizianebadoba, mSfoTvare

Zili, ZilSi kbilebis kraWu-

ni, alergiuli reaqciebi: ga-

monayari da perianaluri (uka-

na tanis) qavili, gogonebSi

xSiria vulvovaginiti _ sa-

Sos lorwovani garsis anTeba,

Sardgamomyofi sistemis in-

feqciebi.

am niSnebis didi nawili

sxva saxis helminTozebsac

axasiaTebs, magram enterobio-

zisTvis gansakuTrebiT ori

ram aris damaxasiaTebeli _

perianaluri qavili da muc-

lis tkivili.

ppeerriiaannaalluurrii qqaavviillii xSi-

rad daavadebis erTaderTi

simptomic kia, rac mdedri pa-

razitis ukana tanis naoWebSi

gamosvliTa da iq kvercxis

debiTaa gamowveuli. qavili

yvelaze metad RamiT, 11 saa-

Tidan 1-l saaTamde Zlierde-

ba. swored am periodSi eZle-

vaT parazitebs maqsimaluri

Sansi usafrTxod kvercxdebi-

sa, romlebic dilisaTvis uk-

ve aswreben momwifebas.

mSoblebi xSirad aRniSna-

ven, rom mkurnalobis miuxeda-

vad, maTi patara RamiT ukana-

tans mainc iqavebs. es nu Se-

gaSinebT, namkurnalev bavSveb-

Si qavili refleqsuri xasia-

Tisaa, romelic garkveuli pe-

riodis Semdeg TavisiT gaiv-

lis.

RamiT dadebuli kvercxi-

dan dilisaTvis ukve axali

parazitebi iCekebian, romle-

bic xSirad ganavalTan erTad

gamoiyofa. parazitebis gamo-

yofa gansakuTrebiT Zlierde-

ba sxeulis temperaturis ma-

tebisas, didi raodenobiT

citrusis wvenis an mineralu-

ri wylis dalevisas.

mmuucclliiss ttkkiivviillii _ aseve

xSiri simptomia mwvave tkivi-

li, romelic lokalizebulia

Wipis areSi; nawlavis kedel-

ze parazitebis miwebebis Se-

degad lorwovani garsi Rizi-

andeba da tkivili, wesisamebr,

Wamisas iwyeba, Tumca, iSvia-

Tad, SesaZloa, Wamis Semdegac

gaZlierdes.

ddaaaavvaaddeebbiiss

nneeggaattiiuurrii SSeeddeeggeebbii

1. imunitetis daTrgunva _

helminTebi aqveiTebs sisxlSi

damcavi nivTierebebis dones

da nerwyvis fermentebis aqti-

vobas;

2. enterobioziT daavade-

bul bavSvebSi sagrZnoblad

mcirdeba profilaqtikuri ac-

rebis efeqtianoba, amitom ac-

rebis Catarebamde aucilebe-

lia nebismieri saxis helmin-

Tozis mkurnaloba.

3. zrda-ganviTarebis tem-

pebis Seneleba _ qronikulad

moavade bavSvebis sisxlSi

mkveTrad klebulobs spilen-

Zis, TuTiisa da magniumis ra-

odenoba, am mikroelementTa

deficiti ki, rogorc fiziku-

ri ise gonebrivi ganviTarebis

Semaferxebeli faqtoria;

4. garTuleba _ daavadeba

SesaZloa garTuldes Wianaw-

lavis danamatis anTebiT (apen-

diciti), ukana tanis napra-

liT da zogjer enureziT _

RamiT Sardis SeukavlobT.

rrooggoorr aavviicciillooTT

eenntteerroobbiioozzii

* upirveles yovlisa, pa-

tara unda miaCvioT piradi hi-

gienis wesebs, gadaaCvieT Ti-

Tebisa da saTamaSoebis pirSi

Cadebas, xSirad unda ibanos

xeli sapniT, enterobiozi xom

`WuWyiani xelebis daavadebaa~;

* pataras frCxilebi yo-

velTvis ZirSi unda daaWraT;

* aucilebelia yovel di-

la-saRamos maTi wels qvemoT

dabanva;

* Tu bavSvi dainficire-

bulia, RamiT iseTi sacvali

unda CaacvaT, rom ZilSi uka-

na tanis qavili ver SeZlos;

sacvali yoveli garecxvis

Semdeg unda gauTovdes cxeli

uToTi. mkurnalobis periodSi

aucilebelia TeTreulis xSi-

ri gamocvla, gamoxarSva da

gauToeba.

* saxli, gansakuTrebiT sa-

bavSvo oTaxi da iataki, unda

dasufTavdes sveli wesiT, sp-

ecialuri xsnarebiT, romle-

bic sagnebs moacilebs kverc-

xebs da gaanadgurebs kidec.

* kvercxebze damRupvelad

moqmedebs ramdenime saaTiT

yinva an kaSkaSa mzis pirdapi-

ri sxivebi;

* aucilebelia bavSvis ra-

cionSi Sediodes: stafilo,

marwyvi, broweulis wveni, ka-

kali, krazanas Cai, romlebic

organizmidan parazitis gamo-

devnas uwyobs xels;

* bavSvs aucileblad unda

hqondes calke sawoli da

pirsaxoci.

sabednierod, enterobiozi

arc ise saSiSi daavadebaa da

Tanamedrove medicinis piro-

bebSi absoluturad ikurneba.

zviad RonRaZe

enterobiozi _ organizmSi maxvila parazitobs

`girCebi~ terfze

23saerTo gazeTi#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

Cemi inkognito respondenti

axalgazrda, simpaTiuri kacia.

qristes asaki jer ar Semsru-

lebiao, _ ganmicxada da isic

daamata, rom JurnalistebTan

saqme arasdros hqonia, `Tqven

popularuli adamianebi gainte-

resebT, me ki bevri miklia aqam-

de, Tumca Cems axloblebSi po-

pularulic var da metic. ax-

la imitom dagTanxmdiT, rom

Cemi vinaoba ar iSifreba, Tanac

am Temaze usasrulod SemiZlia

saubari, ramdens dabeWdavT, es

ukve Tqveni saqmea~ _ miTxra

`debiutantma~.

saubari marTlac xangrZli-

vi gamogvivida. ai, ra miambo za-

zam (saxeli Secvlilia): `usiy-

varulod Seqmnili ojaxi oja-

xad ar mimaCnia, magram moyvaru-

li col-qmaric rom xSirad

ver eteva culis tarze, esec

faqtia. cocxali magaliTi age-

ra var: asi welic rom vicocx-

lo, mainc ver mivxvdebi, ra

bzikma ukbina Cems cols. arada,

TiTqos, kargad vicnobdiT erT-

maneTs. orwliani romani gvqon-

da. Tu misi mxridan naRdi siy-

varuli ar iyo da Tavs maCve-

nebda, maSin udidesi msaxiobi

yofila da aq raRa unda _ ga-

emgzavros holivudSi, arc da-

faseba moakldeba da arc _ mi-

lionebi. Tqven warmogidgeniaT,

uerTmaneTod erT saaTsac ver

vZlebdiT, xan me vijeqi mis

leqciebze da xan piriqiT, uam-

ravi winaaRmdegoba Segvxvda da

mainc erTad viyaviT _ nuTu es

siyvaruli ar iyo? winaaRmde-

gobebi vaxsene, axlave davakon-

kreteb: xom iciT, dRes iseTi

cxovrebaa, rom kaci SeiZleba

daberde da materialuri prob-

lemebi mainc ver moagvaro, Cven

ki studentebi viyaviT, arc mis

ojaxs gadasdioda Tavze da

arc Cemsas, binis yidvas an da-

qiravebas ki fuli sWirdeboda.

saidan unda mometana? kafeSi

Tu davpatiJebdi, Tavi kaci me-

gona. vatyob, gagikvirdaT, bina

rom vaxsene, albaT, ggoniaT,

rom calke cxovrebaze viyaviT

Caciklulni. rasakvirvelia,

axalgazrda wyvils yovelTvis

calke cxovreba urCevnia, mag-

ram Cven, ubralod, sxva arCeva-

ni ar gvqonda, gamigeT? orive

ojaxma wiTeli agvinTo _ Ce-

mebs misi saxelis gagonebac ar

undodaT, _ bavSvians ar mogay-

vaninebTo, _ gamomicxades da

bolomde `pirvel Cvenebas awve-

bodnen~. ra ar vcade: Txovna,

mudara, Segoneba, Cxubi _ ara-

ferma gaWra. me eg ambavi sul

ar maRelvebda: 17 wlis gogos

ra Wkua, moekiTxeba, hoda, ga-

regnobiT moixibla, mere ki er-

Tjeradi Spricebis gadayras

ver audioda, ori weli gauZlo

am jojoxeTs, bolos ki bavSvs

xeli daavlo da saxlSi dab-

runda. ra, Tavi unda gaewira?

misi yofili qmari dResac Cam-

pali narkomania, Tumca Zvele-

burad frTebgaSlili da gala-

Rebuli veRar aris. rogorc

gavige, viTom mkurnalobs ki-

dec, magram, ra vici, ginaxavT

gamosworebuli narkomani? mok-

led, mere me gamicno, tolebi

viyaviT, bevri saerTo aRmogvaC-

nda da erTmaneTi Segviyvarda.

me aranairad ar makompleqsebda

misi ganaTxovroba, magram Cemebs

veraferi Sevagnebine.

axla, rac Seexeba mis

ojaxs: es vis gadaekideo, bavS-

vis patroni xar da vinme gza-

ze damdgari mogeZebnao, Seni

toli biWi jer TviTonaa ga-

sazrdeli da ver gipatroneb-

so... erTi sityviT, yvela Tavi-

sas mierekeboda: Cems mSoblebs

ganaTxovari rZali ar nebavdaT,

imaT ki _ studenti siZe. Cven

ra gvindoda, amas aravin kiTxu-

lobda.

iciT, rodis amomasxa? erT

dResac dedaCemi meca da meub-

neba, _ dRes naTelmxilvelTan

viyavi da mosacdel oTaxSi Se-

ni qalbatonis dedas gadavawy-

dio. sanam azrze movidodi,

`Cemma qalbatonmac~ damireka

da Semomtira, _ dedaCemma la-

mis suli amomxados, Seni kava-

leris dedas naTelmxilvelTan

ra undodao. azrze xarT? al-

baT Cveni suraTebi hqondaT wa-

Rebuli da orive maTgani dar-

wmunebuli iyo, rom misi Svili

jados Tu raRac jandabis

msxverpli gaxda. ai, Tqven ge-

cinebaT, me ki maSin ise gavm-

wardi, rom saxlSi lamis yve-

laferi davlewe _ naTelmxil-

veli da mkiTxavi ukve nametani

iyo. im dResve naqiraveb binaSi

gadavediT. vicodi, vuyvardi da

ukan araferze damixevia. me

mgoni, yvelaze bednieri swo-

red iq viyavi, sxvis WurqveS.

jer biZaCemi mixdida qiras, me-

re _ Cemi megobari. amasobaSi

institutic davamTavre. mamam

samsaxuri damawyebina da miTx-

ra, _ imitom gexmarebi, rom

puris fuli gqondes; namdvil

karierasa da normalur cxov-

rebaze ki mag gogos rom mia-

toveb da Sin dabrundebi, mere

iocnebeo. ori weli gavida da

yvela mixvda, rom colis mim-

tovebeli ar viyavi. amaSi sabo-

lood maSin darwmundnen, xeli

rom movawereT. mere misma

ojaxma SemogvTavaza, _ CvenTan

gadmodiTo da gadavbargdiT _

binis qiris gadaxdisgan suli

gvqonda amoxdili da es prob-

lema mainc movixseniT. Cemebs

araferi gauprotestebiaT:

TiTqos, asec unda yofiliyo:

me unda mecxovra colis ojax-

Si da ara piriqiT. miTxres, _

Svili rom SegeZinebaT, binis

yidvaSi dagexmarebiTo. gulSi

ras fiqrobdnen, ar vici, da

verc gavigeb, radgan saerTo

Svili ar gvyolia. gana ar vi-

yolieT, eg ar ifiqroT! bavSv-

ze vocnebobdiT, eqimsac miv-

marTeT da aRmoCnda, rom ori-

veni janmrTeli viyaviT _ ama-

sobaSi ki ise airia monasteri,

rom... ai, magaliTad, nards rom

Wadraki merCios, an Saqriani

yava, ufro miyvardes, vidre

uSaqro, gaRiziandebiT? ara,

xom? agaSenaT RmerTma. Cems

cols ki Zalian aRizianebda,

Tumca imas ra aRar aRizianeb-

da! cxadia, yavasa da Wadraks

ar vgulisxmob _ saerTod aRa-

raferi moswonda Cemi, Cemi

sityvac nervebs uSlida da

saqmec. erTxelac pirdapir ga-

momicxada, _ erTad veRar viq-

nebiT, daviRaleo.

umizezod araferi xdeba,

magram usindiso viyo, Tu misi

aseTi qcevis mizezi vicode. er-

Ti rusuli simReraa: `×òîá íå

ïèë, íå êóðèë è öâåòè âñåòäàäàðèë~ rom icodeT, zustad

Cemzea. tyuilad geRimebaT, ara-

fers vazviadeb.

erTma Wkvianma kacma Tqva, _

qali CrdiliviTaa, roca misdev

_ garbis, roca gaurbixar _

Tavad gamogekidebao. xom magari

sityvebia? hoda, me es sibrZne

verafriT davnerge praqtikaSi,

verasodes vaeWviane, verafriT

davaintrige, zedmetad miyvarda

da imitom. araferi gansakuTre-

buli qali araa _ ki, sasiamov-

no garegnoba aqvs, magram gasa-

giJebeli namdvilad ar aris.

garegnoba arafer SuaSia, ubra-

lod, miyvarda da morCa! sakma-

od didi dro gavida, rac er-

Tad aRar varT, masze ukeTesTa-

nac gamivlia, magram vgrZnob,

rom Tavs vityueb, imis dam-

viwyebeli ara var...

Tu gulaxdilobaa, bolomde

gulaxdiloba iyos: mag qalis

gamo yvelaferze var wamsvle-

li, ar menaRvleba, Tu vinmes

TvalSi sasacilo gamovCndebi _

SeiZleba kaci movkla da xeli

ar amikankaldes. ho, marTla

asea _ SeiZleba movkla Cemi Se-

uracxmyofelis Seuracxmyofe-

li...~

P.S. vici, rom alqajia, mag-

ram mainc qveyanas mirCevniao, _

miTxra Cemma repondentma. Zne-

lia, ivaraudo, rogor warimar-

Teba movlenebi. faqtia, rom

umizezod araferi xdeba, Tumca

adamianis gulSi Caxedva da

WeSmariti mizezis moZieba su-

lac ar gaxlavT ioli saqme.

mkiTxvelo, iqneb Tavad gan-

sazRvro, ram gamoiwvia siyva-

ruliT Seqmnili ojaxis dang-

reva: droebiTma materialurma

gaWirvebam, qmris monotonurma

xasiaTma (rogorc Tavad aRniS-

na), qalis pretenziebma Tu mis-

ma cvalebadma bunebam _ `murma-

nis ekali~ xom mravalgvaria...

nino sixaruliZe

`murmanis ekali~

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.comSSeemmooggvviieerrTTddiiTT FACEBOOK-zze

axmed umarovi, SesaZloa, TbilisSi axmet Citaevis saqmeze

molaparakebebs marTavdeseqsperti kavkasiis sakiTxebSi mamuka areSiZe

ar gamoricxavs, rom doku umarovis Zma, axmed

umarovi, SesaZloa, saqarTveloSi axmet Citaevis

saqmeze imyofebo-

des. „medianius-

Tan“ saubrisas igi

„exo kavkazas“ mi-

er gavrcelebul

informacias gamo-

exmaura, romlis

mixedviTac, axmed

umarovi Tbilis-

Sia.

rogorc areSi-

Zem aRniSna, mas zusti informacia ar moepoveba,

Tumca im saubarze dayrdnobiT, romelic umarov-

sa da „exo kavkazis“korespondents Soris Sedga,

SesaZloa, es ukanaskneli marTlac saqarTvelos

dedaqalaqSi iyos Camosuli.

„Tu axmed umarovi TbilisSia, SesaZloa, is

axmed Citaevis saqmesTan dakavSirebiT iyos aq da

molaparakebebs marTavdes. axmed Citaevi serio-

zuli figura da axmed umarovis piradi megoba-

ria“, –– ganmarta mamuka areSiZem.

rogorc cnobilia, axmed Citaevi ruseTis fe-

deraciis moqalaqea CrdiloeT kavkasiidan. is

SeiaraRebuli dajgufebis erT-eerTi wevria, ro-

melic Sinagan saqmeTa saministros TanamSromleb-

ma lopotas xeobaSi daakaves. Sinagan saqmeTa sa-

ministros informaciT, igi dakavebisas daWrili

iyo da Sesabamisi samedicino daxmareba gaewia.

aRsaniSnavia, rom axmed umarovi interpolis

mier ar iZebneba. interpoli wiTeli cirkulariT

doku umarovs eZebs.

Crdilo oseTis teritoriaze amboxebulebis dajgufeba aRmoaCinesCrdiloeT oseTis ganapira teritoriaze am-

boxebulebis dajgufeba aRmoaCines.

,,ria novostis” informaciiT, dajgufebis aR-

moCenis gamo Crdilo oseTis gareubanSi kontr-

teroristuli operaciis reJimia SemoRebuli.

samarTaldamcavebis gancxadebiT, maTTan ope-

ratiul StabSi Sevida informacia, rom Crdilo

oseTisa da inguSeTis administraciul sazRvar-

ze, tyis masivSi bandformireba aRmoCnda, rome-

lic teroristul saqmianobaSi aris SemCneuli.

im teritoriaze, sadac operacia mimdinare-

obs, fizikuri pirebis gadaadgilebasTan dakavSi-

rebiT SezRudvebia SemoRebuli.

arsebuli informaciiT, bandformireba daax-

loebiT 10 adamianisgan Sedgeba.

`medianiusi~

`se la vi~

24 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

Toki zRvis donidan 1640

metris simaRleze, kanionis Tav-

zea, Sua gzaze ki erTi Zalian sa-

intereso Zeglia, sadamdec qvei-

Tad, daaxloebiT, naxevari kilo-

metria sasiarulo wavarnebiT. es

teritoria sofel Toks ekuTvnis

da eklesias, samecniero litera-

turaSi, amitom hqvia Tokis mo-

nasteri. adgilobrivi qarTvelebi,

erTi legendis Tanaxmad, mas da-

Zmis monasters uwodeben (am le-

gendas sxva dros, sofel CunCxa-

Si yofnisas giambobT). da-Zmis mo-

nasterSi, am saydris garda, kani-

onis meore mxares, missave simaR-

leze mdebare naisis eklesia moi-

azreba. eklesiebi erTmaneTs uyu-

reben da TvalsawieriT 250-300

metri aSorebT.

Tokis terasaze mdgari sayda-

ri, romelTanac, axla mivdivarT,

sinamdvileSi or eklesias aerTi-

anebs. samxreTiT, dabla, mcire na-

gebobaa (Sida zomebia 3,10X1,90

m), igi zogan uxeSad damuSavebu-

li, magram Tanabari zomis mcire

qviTaa amoyvanili, zogan sufTad

gaTlili veeba kvadrebiT. qvaTa

Tlis, SerCevisa da wyobis aseTi

Sexameba adreSuasaukuneebisTvis

aris damaxasiaTebeli.

salocavi dasavleTidan naxe-

varwriuli TaRiTaa gaxsnili. es

nagebobis erTaderTi Sesasvle-

lia. yuradRebas ipyrobs sakur-

Txevlis absidis Semkvreli er-

Tob monumenturi, nalisebri moy-

vanilobis TaRi. samlocvelo VII-

IX saukuneebiT unda daTariRes.

am uZveles samlocveloze

mogvianebiT, daaxloebiT XIII-XIV

saukuneebSi, CrdiloeTidan gaci-

lebiT didi saydari miudgamT,

romelsac, Tavis mxriv, Tanadro-

uli CrdiloeTis ori minaSeni

aqvs. maTgan erT-erTi damatebiT

samlocvelos warmoadgens da

mTavar darbazs gaSlili TaRiT

ukavSirdeba. rogorc didi, ise

mcire darbazis sakurTxevlis ab-

sidis naxevarwre dabrecilia.

mTliani taZris Sida zomebia:

sigrZeSi 9,3 m. siganeSi 7,1 m. da-

axloebiT 1 m.-is sisqis kedlebi

sufTad gaTlili qvis didi kvad-

rebiTaa ayvanili da maTze aranai-

ri CuqurTma ar aris.

...gza nel-nnela Crdilo-aaRmo-

savleTiT ixreba. TokSi Sevdi-

varT. sofelSi metnaklebad saR-

salamaTad aTiod saxli gamoiyu-

reba da aqedanac naxevars boqlo-

mi adevs. ai, ukve ori saaTia, rac

TokSi vtrialebT, magram erTi

TavCaqindruli kacis garda aravis

gauvlia _ puris tomrebiT dat-

virTuli cxeni mihyavs. karga mo-

SorebiT Saosani dedaberi saqmia-

nobs aivanze... arc ZaRlis yefa,

arc mamlis yivili.

osmalos batonobisas welSi

rom gatyda Toki, mas mere asea _

vinc marTlmadidebloba ar daT-

mo, gadaixvewa, vinc daTmo, _ ga-

Turqda da ierli gaxda. 1944 we-

ls ierli Sua aziaSi gadaasax-

les da Toki mTlad dacarielda.

mere, TiTqos,

axlomdebare qa-

rTuli sofle-

bidan amovida

ramdenime komli,

magram, xeli-

suflebis uyu-

radRebobis gamo,

umetesobam fexi

ver moikida.

Tokis centrSi XIV saukunis

darbazuli saydari, sabednierod,

aRdgenilia. Tlili, ruxi qvis

daudevari wyobiT aSenebul ekle-

sias etyoba, rom XIV saukunis

ostati iseTi gulmodgine ar iyo,

rogorc misi winapari. kargamoke-

tili saydris win IX-X saukune-

ebis ramdenime qvajvari devs. od-

nav moSorebiT WobareTisxevs ga-

dascqeris Zveli, mkvdari sofeli.

morRveuli saxlebis kedlebi yo-

reTa doneze dasula. TiTqos

soflisTvis saxuravi auxdiaT da

zevidan davcqeri Camqral si-

cocxles. kidev ufro aRmosavle-

TiT, zed kldis Tavze, dangreu-

li koSkia, romelic bolos, Tur-

me, gamahmadianebul abaSiZes ekuT-

vnoda.

vtovebT Toks da dasavleTiT,

sarosken mivemgzavrebiT. sevdas

xalisi cvlis, sasowarkveTas _

imedi. da es ara imitom, rom sa-

ro didad dalxinebuli sofelia,

aramed imitom, rom fesvi ar gax-

mobia da qarTuli sisxli ar daS-

retia.

TurqTa uRlis dros saroe-

lebma udidesi gmiroba gamoiCines.

maSin, roca javaxeTis erTma na-

wilma gamahmadianebas Tavi ver

aarida, xolo meore nawilma ga-

darCenis mizniT kaTolikoba mii-

Ro, saroelebma daufaravad ata-

res sjuli. karga xnis manZilze,

javaxs rom ityodnen, gaTurqebu-

li Tu gakaTolikebuli qarTveli

an aq mosuli somxebi hyavdaT

mxedvelobaSi. saroelebs maTSi

aTqvefa ar surdaT da protesti

Taviseburad gamoxates. es erTi

leqsidan Cans: `sarvelebi Tavis

Tavsa javaxelad ara scnoben,

vinc javaxi dauZaxos, im kacs

hkicxven, im kacs gmoben~.

amJamindeli 200-komliani sa-

ro zevidan dascqeris mis sakre-

buloSi Semaval patara nijgors,

romelic yurZniT, xiliT da me-

tadre kaklis siuxviT iwonebs

Tavs mtkvris xeobaSi, orive sof-

lis xalxi, Cemi dakvirvebiT er-

Ti `Camosxmisaa~. istoriuli qar-

texilebis kvali dResac SemorCe-

nia aqaur vaJkacTa gafoladebul,

daxvewil saxeebs, gamoxedvas da

mozomil sityvas. erT-erT maT-

gans, siberes miaxloebul vaso

aspaniZes sasiamovno garegnobis,

darbaisel kacs im uZeelesi ci-

xis naSalTan mivyavar, romlis

warwera misi amgebis vinaobas

gvacnobs _ vaCe gurgenis Ze. mis-

Tvis demetre pirvels rexi da ma-

Wa uCuqebia. gamodis, rom Zegli

XII saukunisaa, arada qvaTa mega-

liTur wyobas, TiTqos, gacile-

biT Zvel droSi gadavyavarT. aqve

dgas IX-X saukuneebis mTavarange-

lozebis ornaviani eklesia. masSi

dRemdea Semonaxuli sawinamZRvro

bavrayi, romelsac yovelwliurad

gamoabrZaneben xolme da sofelSi

daatareben. saroSi yvelaferi Za-

lian saintereso da arqaulia:

viwro, yoriani quCabandebi, erdo-

baniani, dedaboZiani da mercxlis-

buda Weriani darbazebi, adamiane-

bi, Tivisa da wivis zvinebi. TiT-

qos mamalic qarTulad yivis. er-

Ti saxlis win oTaraanT qvrivis

msgavsi dedakaci Camomjdara da

windas qsovs, gzaze viRac saxed-

rebs modenis, iqve _ ficrulidan

grdemlisa da uros Widi-

lis xma ismis _ mWedeli

sofels amxnevebs.

aq, saroSi, bibliur

sofels Sevcqeri.

sarodan 4-5 kilo-

metrSi, saroswylis ayo-

lebaze, mis marjvena na-

pirze xizabavraa gaSene-

buli. xizabavra is sofe-

lia, romelmac aspinZis

omSi gamarjvebul mefe

erekles sanaqebod umas-

pinZla. sofeli somexi

mematianis cnobiT, 841-

842 wlebidan Cans, roca

saqarTveloSi SemoWrili

arabi sardali xalil

ibn-iazidi swored javaxeTSi,

kerZod ki xizabirSi mouklavT.

amdenad, is versia, rom xizabavra

ori soflis mkvidrTa erTobli-

vi dasaxlebiT warmoqmnili to-

ponimia, Zalian Zvel dros unda

gvaxsenebdes. erTi sofeli `xi-

za~, sadRac maxloblad yofila,

meore _ `bavra~ ki dResac zed

akravs axalqalaqs. 300-komlian

xizabavrSi, dRes 290 komli ka-

Tolike qarTvelia, danarCeni 10

marTlmadidebelia. kaTolikeni

XIX saukunis bolos vatikanis

daxmarebiT agebul da dRes moq-

med im did taZarSi loculoben,

romelsac `qristes wminda guli~

hqvia. marTlmadidebelTa Zveli,

patara, magram ostaturad nagebi

darbazuli eklesia XI saukunisa

unda iyos, rasac erT-erTi war-

weris (`qriste, Seiwyale... mamai

suliTa da giorgi Seiwyale~) pa-

leografiuli analizi cxadh-

yofs. eseklesia wminda giorgis

saxelobisaa, magram xibazavrSi

mas kidev ori Serqmeuli saxeli

aqvs: `laSas saydari~ da `Rarib-

Ta eklesia~. pirveli saxeli, al-

baT taZris erT-erTi warweris

gamoZaxilia, romelSic laSa-gi-

orgia naxsenebi (`qriste, Seiwya-

le laSa alastneli javaxT ufa-

li~). meore saxeli imdroindeli

unda iyos, roca osmaleTis impe-

riaSi yofnisas (axalcixis safa-

So), aqauri da SedarebiT laRad

mcxovrebi gakaTolikebuli qarT-

velebi, marTlmadideblad darCe-

nil da dabeCavebul qarTvelebs

medidurad uyurebdnen. am patara

taZars aqvs osmalos batonobis

dros Semovlebuli galavani, ro-

melSic mxedruli asoebiT Sere-

uli nusxuri warwera aris: `sa-

xeliTa RmrTisiTa ahRmarTes ...

Cven saroelman...~ rogorc es

warwera cxadhyofs, osmaleTis

batonobaSi saroelebi xizabavra-

Si mcxovrebi marTlmadidebeli

qarTvelebis gadarCenazec zru-

navdnen da maT taZars ganamtki-

cebdnen.

laSas taZris galavanTan er-

Ti didi, gemrieli wyaro gadmos-

Cqefs. vinc ar unda gaiaros aq,

marTlmadidebelma Tu kaTolikem,

yvela am wyaros ewafeba.

gela qoqiaSviliavtoris fotoebi

mmooggzzaauurroobbaa ssaammSSoobbllooSSii

sarosmamalitye-javaxeTi

saros mTavarangelozis eklesia da cixis koSkis naSali

Tokis monasteri, soflis eklesia `wminda giorgi~ Tavisi

stelebiT da xizabavris `laSas saydari~

xxaannddooSSii yyooffnniissaass WWoobbaarreeTTiisswwyylliiss ggaaRRmmaa,,

SSoorrss eerrTTii ppaattaarraa ddaassaaxxlleebbaa SSeevvnniiSSnneeTT.. eegg qqaarr-

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25saerTo gazeTi#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

SevardnaZe

qveyanas angrevda!

evroamerika SevardnaZes aqebda

da aqebda!

Cavida safrangeTSi SevardnaZe!

didi pativiscemiT miiRes!

misma sazRvargareTelma megob-

rebma kargad ician, ra bedovlaTia

`didi politikosi~, magram mTava-

ria Cven, qarTvelebma davijeroT

es ambavi. amerikeli, germaneli,

ingliseli, frangi rom ityvis Se-

vardnaZis Sesaxeb `didiao~, rao,

qarTveli da Tan doylapia, amas

ar daijerebs?

SevardnaZe didad daafasa ev-

roamerikam, magram manve ar miiRo

zviad gamsaxurdia.

SevardnaZe `did politiko-

sad~ monaTles, zviad gamsaxurdia

ki _ faSistad!

TviTon SevardnaZis specbriga-

debi TiTqmis mudam dRe axorcie-

leben rkinigzebis, xidebis, sxva-

dasxva obieqtebis afeTqebas da

amas abraleben CeCneTSi gadaxve-

wil zviad gamsaxurdias!

am dros, bneleTis jurRmu-

lebSi, romelic mfarvelobs Se-

vardnaZes, gadawyvetileba ukve mi-

Rebulia _ zviad gamsaxurdia

aucileblad unda ganadgurdes

fizikurad.

evroamerikuli saZmo ki mTeli

msoflios gasagonad aqebs, adi-

debs SevardnaZes! exmarebian,

ajildoeben da gaiZaxian, rom Se-

vardnaZe msoflio rangis udidesi

politikosia!

Rirseul adamians, vinc odnav

mainc icnobs eduard SevardnaZes,

sircxvili dawvavs, iseTi saqebari

werilebi modis amerikidan.

ase magaliTad, 1992 wlis ap-

rils, amerikis SeerTebuli Sta-

tebis prezidenti jorj buSi, we-

rils ugzavnis SevardnaZes da es

mimarTva kargad rom gaisigrZega-

no, gaxlavT erTgvari angariSis

Cabareba. gaocdebi kaci _ iseTi

STabeWdileba rCeba, TiTqos im

ubneles ierarqiaSi, romelsac Se-

vardnaZe ekuTvnis, jorj buSs ga-

cilebiT naklebi xarisxi gaaCnia.

vnaxoT faqti! wavikiTxoT

jorj buSis werili:

`mis aRmatebulebas eduard

SevardnaZes, saqarTvelos respub-

likis saxelmwifo sabWos Tavmj-

domares!

Zvirfaso Tavmjdomare eduard

SevardnaZev! dRes sajarod gamo-

vaqveyneb yofili sabWoTa kavSiris

damoukidebel saxelmwifoTa de-

mokratiisa da Tavisufali bazre-

bis mxardamWer mTel rig axal

iniciativebs. msurs winaswar Se-

gatyobinoT Cemi gancxadebis amba-

vi.

imisaTvis, rom am saqmeSi Cava-

ba aRmasrulebeli xelisufleba,

kongresi da amerikeli xalxi da

stimuli mivce mravalmxriv Za-

lisxmevas, vacxadeb, rom viReb

ruseTisa da evraziis sxva xalx-

ebisaTvis daxmarebis yovlismomc-

vel pakets.

jer erTi, vacxadeb, rom

mxars vuWerT yovlismomcvel

mravalmxriv ekonomikur stabili-

zaciis programas saerTaSoriso

savaluto fondis, msoflio ban-

kisa da `Svideulis~ meSveobiT,

masSi gaTvaliswinebuli iqneba eq-

vsi miliardi dolaris gamoyofa

valutis stabilizaciis fondSi

da 18 miliardi dolarisa _ ru-

seTisTvis damatebiTi makroekono-

mikuri daxmarebis gasawevad (aSS-

i tyuil-uubralod arasodes ara-

vis exmareba, miT umetes ruseTs.

Tanac, ra SuaSi unda iyos Sevar-

dnaZe? ratom atyobinebs winaswar

jorj buSi SevardnaZes _ gixa-

rodes, ruseTs unda davexmaroo?

iqneb imitom, rom ruseTi ukve

gamzadebuli hyavdaT dasaSlelad

da dasaqucmaceblad? _ j.d.).

vkisrulobT valdebulebas, gavu-

wioT mxardaWera damatebiT mak-

roekonomikuri stabilizaciis

Zalisxmevas saqarTveloSi (sul

ramdenime Tvis damxobilia kano-

nieri xelisufleba da mZvinvarebs

SevardnaZis terori! _ j.d.) da

sxva damoukidebel saxelmwifoeb-

Si (sadac zviad gamsaxurdias

msgavsad dinebis sawinaaRmdegod

aravin dacuravs! _ j.d.) imis kva-

lobaze, Tu rogor imuSavebT sa-

erTaSoriso savaluto fondTan

im reformaTa yovelmxrivi gegmis

formulirebisaTvis, romlebic

imsaxureben ndobas.

meorec, kongresSi vgzavni

yovlismomcvel integrirebul wi-

nadadebebs _ 1992 wlis aqts Ta-

visuflebis mxardaWeris Sesaxeb

(RmerTo, gviSvele! _ j.d.) es ka-

nonmdebloba miznad isaxavs imas,

rom moixsnas `civi omis~ perio-

dis SezRudvebi da miviRoT axali

uflebamosilebani, SeerTebulma

Statebma SeZlos, rac SeiZleba

ukeT Seuwyos xeli Tqvens Zalis-

xmevas, aSenoT demokratia da Ta-

visufali bazari. igi agreTve Se-

icavs Tqvens qveyanaSi vaWrobas da

investiciebSi amerikis kompaniaTa

SesaZleblobebis gafarToebis

mniSvnelovan debulebebs.

mesamec, vacxadeb, rom dRes

damatebiT gamoiyofa 1,1 miliardi

dolaris odenobis sakredito ga-

rantiebi sasofli-ssameurneo sa-

qonlis Sesasyidad. samomxmareb-

lo kreditebis korporaciis sa-

xiT 600 milion sakredito ga-

rantiebs gadavcemT ruseTs, da-

narCeni 500 milioni gadairicxe-

ba ukrainis da sxva saxelmwifo-

ebisaTvis.

Cvens mier gadadgmul nabijeb-

Tan erTad, Cemi mizania is, rom

amerikam dauWiros mxari Tqvens

qveyanaSi demokratias da ganmt-

kicdes Semdgomi saerTaSoriso

Zalisxmeva da koordinacia.

imedi maqvs, rom mxars dami-

WerT erTobliv moqmedebaSi, rom-

lis mizania, uzrunvelvyoT de-

mokratiisa da Tavisufali bazre-

bis ayvaveba.

gulwrfelad Tqveni jorj

buSi~.

da megobrebo, aqve, amave

dros, amave gazeTSi jorj buSis

werils mosdevs cnoba:

`saqarTvelos respublikis sa-

xelmwifo sabWos Tavmjdomarem

eduard SevardnaZem werili miiRo

moskovis mTavrobis premieris i.

lukianovisa da qalaq moskovis

meris g. popovisagan. werilSi

kerZod naTqvamia:

`pativcemulo eduard ambro-

sis Zev! gaiTvaliswina ra, saqarT-

velos respublikaSi sursaTis

nakleboba, da xelmZRvanelobs ra,

ruseTisa da saqarTvelos xalxe-

bis tradiciuli megobruli ur-

TierTobiT (sad iyo aqamde `tra-

diciuli megobroba~? nuTu zviad

gamsaxurdias dros qarTveli

xalxi sxva iyo da SevardnaZis

dros ki _ sxva? ra moxda? ra ga-

rigebas ar awerda xels zviadi da

raze daiTanxmes SevardnaZe, rom

evroamerikidan Tu ruseTidan ase

uxvad moayares sursaT-ssanovage?

_ j.d.), ruseTis mTavrobam Teber-

valsa da martSi gamogzavna saqar-

Tvelos respublikaSi 135 tona

Saqari, 320 tona fqvili. april-

sa da maisSi gamovagzavniT kidev

1500 tona fqvils. daiwyo Tbi-

lisSi 5 aTasi tona kartofilis

gamogzavna.

garda amisa, gadawyda moskovis

rezervebidan respublikaSi umok-

les vadebSi 5 aTasi tona ben-

zinisa da 5 aTasi tona dizelis

saTbobis, daaxloebiT 80 samgzav-

ro avtobusis, komunaluri meur-

neobisaTvis gankuTvnili 20 avto-

manqanis, agreTve sawarmoo-tteqni-

kuri daniSnulebis mniSvnelovani

moculobis produqciis gamogzav-

nis sakiTxebi.

guliTad madlobas mogaxse-

nebT saqarTvelodan Tambaqos,

spirtiani sasmelebisa da sxva sa-

qonlis Semxvedri mowodebisaTvis.

imedi gvaqvs, rom momavalSi kidev

ufro ganviTardeba moskovisa da

saqarTvelos respublikis mTavro-

baTa TanamSromloba~ (orive weri-

li dabeWilia gazeT `saqarTve-

los respublikaSi~, #56, 1992

wlis 8 aprils).

RmerTo Cemo! ra siamtkbilo-

baa jorj buSs, SevardnaZes, lu-

kianovsa da popovs Soris.

sisxliT morwyuli

saqarTvelo,

amerika da ruseTi!

amerika da ruseTi, orive Zmu-

rad uwvdis xels mTlad sisxliT

morwyul saqarTvelos.

guSin, roca kanonieri xeli-

sufleba hyavda qarTvelebs, yve-

lam blokada gamoucxada. Sevard-

naZe gamoCnda Tu ara, msoflios

yvela qveynidan wamovida mraval-

mxrivi daxmareba, romelic qarTv-

el xalxamde dResac, 2009 wel-

sac ar mosula!

sad mihqondaT? sakuTar oja-

xebSi, megobrebSi da zogs, did

nawils, ukanve agzavnidnen isev da

isev madlobis niSnad.

mTavari ki isaa, rom aSS-cc

kmayofilia da maSindeli ruse-

Tic. TiTqos SevardnaZe iseT ra-

Racas dahpirda... mainc ras? ra

SeiZleba yofiliyo? iqneb afxaze-

Ti da cxinvalis regioni? ufro

sworad _ afxazeTi da samaCablo

ruseTs, danarCeni ki _ amerika-

so!?

rao, dRes rac ukve moxda _

afxazeTi da e.w. samxreT oseTi,

rom ukve saqarTvelodan mow-

yvetilia, gana faqti ar gaxlavT?

zemoT Cven vnaxeT amerikis da

ruseTis Sexmatkbilebuli weri-

li, sasiyvarulo mimarTvebi Se-

vardnaZisadmi. axla gadavxedoT

1992 wlis isev aprilis, oRond

Sua aprilis ambebs, rogor ex-

marebian SevardnaZes (da ara sa-

qarTvelos,) germaniidan.

gavSaloT gazeTi `saqarTve-

los respublika~ (#60, 1992

wlis 14 aprili), romlis mowi-

nave gverdze, pirvel gverdze

msxvili asoebiT aweria:

`evropa da saqarTvelo erTma-

neTis Sesaxvedrad daiZrnen~.

Turme saqarTveloSi Camobr-

Zanebula evropa, romelsac hqvia

germaniis vice-kkancleri, sagareo

saqmeTa ministri hans-dditrix gen-

Seri da mas daxvedria saqarTve-

lo _ eduard SevardnaZe.

vkiTxulob hans-dditrix genSe-

ris sityvas:

`Zvirfaso eduard,

Zvirfaso nanuli!

qalbatonebo da batonebo!

`vin moyvaresa ar eZebs, igi

Tavisa mteria~

es strofi, didi qarTveli da

evropeli (biWos, yoCaR batono

genSer, Cven aqamde ar vicodiT,

rom SoTa rusTaveli evropeli

poeti yofila! rogor CamovrCe-

nilvarT, Zlivs ar agvixile Tva-

li am kavkasielebs? _ j.d.) poe-

tis, SoTa rusTavelisa, amSvenebs

mis Zegls rusTavelis parkSi,

bolSaia gruzinskaias quCaze,

moskovSi.

parkis pirdapir germaniis sa-

elCoa, romelic ganlagebulia

Tavad bagrationis yofil sasax-

leSi (germania, genSeri, magram

kvlav moskovi. aqac daSaqrulni

arian germania, saqarTvelo da

ruseTi! iqneb marTldeba Cemi va-

raudi? maSinve xom ar gaurigda

SevardnaZe evroamerikas da ru-

seTs-ssaqarTvelos orad ga-

giyofT, Tqven mSvidad iyaviTo? _

j.d.). am Zegls Cauvlis yvela,

vinc ki germaniis saelCoSi midis.

visac am strofis gageba sur-

da, iman gaigo igi (raRacas oraz-

rovnebs batoni ditrixi, - vgo-

neb, mxedvelobaSi hyavs Sevradna-

Ze, romelmac gaigo SoTa rusTa-

velis cnobili Segoneba, xolo

zviad gamsaxurdiam ver SeZlo,

ver waikiTxa `vefxistyaosani~, ar

eyo imdeni ganaTleba, codna, ma-

rifaTi, rom kargad aReqva da ga-

ego! arada, batoni genSeri da Se-

vardnaZe rasac fizikurad iwo-

nidnen orive erTad, zviads asi

imdeni wigni hqonda wakiTxuli

da brwyinvale naSromic hqonda

`vefxistyaosnis saxismetyveleba~.

ra samwuxaro droa! ra saSinele-

ba trialebs dRevandel msofli-

oSi! _ j.d.). es sityvebi WeSmari-

tebas RaRadeben da maT saukune-

ebs gauZles. es WeSmariteba is

aris, rom urTierTgageba, megob-

roba da TanamSromloba yvelaf-

ris sawyaoa.

ukanasknel wlebSi, Cven yvela

davrwmundiT, Tu ra marTali iyo

poeti. es asea: `vin moyvaresa ar

eZebs, igi Tavisa mteria~ da me, am

sityvebiT, romlebic Cven gvakav-

Sirebs, mivmarTav Cems megobars,

eduard SevardnaZes (ra megobro-

ba autyda baton genSers ssrk-ss

sagareo ministrTan, xom aris sa-

intereso? _ j.d.)...

civi omi istorias Cabarda,

evropis politikuri dayofa daZ-

leulia. Tqven, batono Tavmjdo-

marev, Tqveni wvlili SeitaneT am

istoriul procesSi. SorsmWvre-

telobiT da pasuxismgeblobiT

mSvidobisaTvis aRniSnulia Tqveni

politika. amiT Tqven safuZveli

CauyareT saqarTvelos damoukide-

blobis xorcSesxmas, damoukide-

beli, Tavisufali saqarTvelo-

saTvis, msoflios saxelmwifoeb-

is Tanamegobrobis wevrisaTvis.

es ar SeiZleba ganviTarebis

saboloo punqti iyos. saqarTve-

lo dRes dgas didi samomavlo

amocanebis winaSe. demokratiuli

gardaqmnebi mSvidobian da Tavisu-

fal sazogadoebaSi. saqarTvelo

24 martidan evropis uSiSroebis

da TanamSromlobis sabWos wev-

ria. man aRiara am sabWos yvela

valdebuleba da gadawyvetileba.

parizis qartia _ evropis kons-

titucia dRes saqarTveloSic

moqmedebs.

gardaqmna moiTxovs did Za-

lisxmevas. is moiTxovs stabilu-

robas da mxardaWeras (am dros

SevardnaZis specialuri samxed-

ro-kkriminaluri danayofebi ar-

bevs da xvrets dasavleT saqarT-

velos sxvadasxva kuTxeebs. apa-

timrebs da awamebs saqarTvelos

respublikis pirveli da kanonie-

ri prezidentis momxreebs. cixe-

ebSi amwyvdevs da awamebs poli-

tikur patimrebs! _ j.d.). Cven

germanelebs, gvsurs viyoT Tqveni

saimedo, da Tu Tqvenc inebebT,

mrCeveli da partniori.

es Cvens interesebsac Seesaba-

meba. Tqvens qveyanaSi mimdinare

procesebi mTel evropas exeba. ev-

ropa ver gaxdeba erTiani Tu mis

nawilebSi saSiSroeba da SfoTi-

anoba iqneba.

... dRes msovlio Zirfesvianad

Seicvala. germania da saqarTvelo

im evropis ori nawilia, romel-

mac daZlia samxedro da politi-

kuri dapirispireba. dRes safuZ-

vels vuyriT Cveni qveynebis mWid-

ro TanamSromlobas, romlis mi-

zania mSvidoba (am mSvidobis

mtredis TbilisSi yofnisas, ro-

ca momitingeebs daeria policia,

ZaRlebic ki miusies adamianebs da

bevrs axsovs am cxovelebs xal-

xma `genSerebi~ Searqva! _ j.d.).

batono Tavmjdomarev!

me vwev Wiqas da warmovTqvam

Tqvens sadRegr-ZZelos, Tqveni

qveynisa da misi moqalaqeebis sa-

dRegrZelos, Cveni qveynebis mSvi-

dobiani da Tavisufali momavlis

sadRegrZelos~.

(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)

mware gakveTilebievroamerika, ruseTi da saqarTvelo

ciklidan: omi bneleTTan _ ricxvi misi 666

jemal davlianiZe

gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix.

`saerTo gazeTi~ #14-38

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.comSemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-zzee

26 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

dekarti brZanebs: “vazrov-

neb, maSasadame, varsebob” da

radgan vcocxlobT da radgan

varsebobT, uamrav problemasTan

gvixdeba gamklaveba. “ar aris

kaci, ar aris problema.” prob-

lema esaa, rTuli Teoriuli an

praqtikuli sakiTxi, romelic

saWiroebs Seswavlas, axsnas,

ganmartebas. dRevandel saqarT-

veloSi ar xdeba problemis

arc Seswavla, arc axna da arc

ganmarteba. dRes, mxolod dapi-

rebebia. dapireba, rom xval uke-

Tesi dRe gveqneba. arada, dResaa

saWiro gadawydes problema.

problema ki uamravia. mxolod

sam ZiriTad Temas Sevexebi: dev-

nilebi, umuSevrebi, diasporebi.

gamigia termini – mkvdrad

Sobili kanoni. ai, mkvdrad So-

bili saministroebis Sesaxeb

araferi msmenia. ramdenime wlis

winaT Seiqmna diasporebis

kuTxiT saxelmwifo aparati.

dRemde gaurkvevelia, ra funq-

cia da ra roli aqvs am uwye-

bas, romelic ratomRac arCevne-

bis wina periodSi axsendebaT

da iTvlian ucxoeTSi myof qar-

Tvelebs, ufro sworad, maT

xmebs. aseve sruliad gaurkveve-

lia dasaqmebis saministros

funqcia. ufro sworad, garkve-

ulia - ra unda am saministros.

trapaiZis uwyeba gadasulia Ri-

ad daiTvalos xmebi. TiToeul

ojaxSi Sedis agenti da ar aqvs

mniSvneloba muSaobs Tu ara esa

Tu is piri, isini anketas avse-

ben da gamokiTxvis bolos Rimi-

liani interviueri iwers res-

pondentis mobiluris, saxlis

nomers da piradobis mowmobis

nomrebs. daaxloebiT 3-4 dReSi

dasaqmebis saministrodan Rimi-

liani xma ukavSirdeba moqala-

qes da agentis Taobaze ekiTxe-

ba – ramdenad moewona igi da

rame pretenzia xom ar aqvs

agentis muSaobaze. isedac SeSi-

nebuli sazogadoeba am faqtiT

ufro metad izRudeba. misi

gvar-saxeli monacemTa bazaSi

Sedis da iZulebulia saxeli-

suflo partias dauWiros mxa-

ri. ufro metad uaresi da da-

mabneveli situaciaa subelianis

yofil uwyebaSi. devnilebis sa-

ministroSi devnilebi arCevne-

bis win axsendebaT. faqtia, dev-

nilis xma igebs arCevnebs. wle-

bis manZilze ukanonod SeCere-

buli droebiTi misamarTebi,

mxolod arCevnebis win axldeba

da iwyeba qaoturad devnilebis

miwera ama Tu im regionSi. im

mizniT, rom devnilma SeZlos

xmis micema. yovelgvari berke-

tis gareSe xdeba rogorc ker-

Zo, aseve organizebuli misamar-

Tebis gacema. metic, wina saar-

Cevnod, kompaqturad Casaxle-

bul obieqtebSi Cndeba erTi yo-

CaRi, xuTosani devnili, rome-

lic ukeTebs organizebas devni-

lebis misamarTebs, isini mihyavs

saministroSi. saministro ki

uproblemod gascems axal misa-

marTebs. garantia aqvT “yoCa-

Risgan”, rom es adamianebi

aucileblad Semoxazaven #5-s.

aseve winasaarCevnod galidan

gadmohyavT devnilebi, romleb-

sac amisamarTeben kompaqtur mi-

samarTebze xuTianis Semoxazvis

sanacvlod. aseve winasaarCev-

nod, saministroSi iwyeba erT-

jeradi fuladi daxmarebebis

gacema, devnilebiT Casaxlebuli

obieqtebis mopirkeTeba da qone-

bis sakuTrebaSi gadacema. aseve

mniSvnelovania erTi detali:

wina saarCevnod, xSir SemTxve-

vaSi, devnilis mowmobaze xdeba

droebTi misamarTis grafaSi

mxolod regionis dasaxeleba

anu umisamarTo misamarTi. am

mowmobiT ki pirs ufleba aqvs

aRniSnul raionSi misces xma.

devnilebi principiT – dRe-

vandeli kvercxi mirCevnia xva-

lindel qaTams, iyeneben am

Sanss. SiSiT, esec ar davkargoT

rac gvaqvso, erTaderT xmas aZ-

leven xelisuflebas. maT ar

sjeraT moqmedi xelisuflebis.

maT ukve arc imis sjeraT, rom

xelisufleba momaval axal

wels soxumsa da cxinvalSi

Sexvdeba. isini daiRalnen mud-

mivi dapirebebiT.

gvesaubreba devnili, romel-

mac gvTxova, ar gavamJRavnoT

misi vinaoba:

-ra vqna, meSinia. uamravi

problema maqvs. vici, rom am

tyuilSi vcxovrobT 20 welia.

erTaderTi, rac minda, es afxa-

zeTSi dabrunebaa. Semovxazav

“5”-s. Svilebi myavs, maT samsa-

xuri undaT. ra vqna? aravin

gvexmareba. 10 kvadratSi cxov-

rebasac Sevegue. amaTi 28 lari-

ani daxmareba meyofa? vici,

gvatyueben. rogorc undaT ise

gveqcevian. miTxres binas mog-

cemTo. rom vkiTxe _ sad-meTqi?

ra mniSvneloba aqvso. Sen xma

mogveci da mere getyviTo. ai,

aseT SiSi varT. iZulebiT miv-

cem xmas, aba, ra gavakeTo?

saubris gagrZeleba aRar

isurva respondentma. SiSs didi

Tvalebi aqvs. daSinebul devni-

lebs ki Tavs zeviT Zala ar

aqvT. xelisufleba ki konfron-

tacias uwyobs xels. gaxleCil

sazogadoebas ufro metad api-

rispirebs erTmaneTTan da mxo-

lod piarze muSaobs. mxolod

kamerebis win niangis cremlebiT

tiris prezidenti. Caivlis ar-

Cevnebi da saxelmwifos xerxema-

li, anu sazogadoeba aviwydebaT.

arCevnebamde ki axsendebaT

iZulebiT gadaadgilebuli pire-

bi. arCevnebis Semdeg ki maTi

problema problemad rCeba. dev-

nilis xma aRar esmis da aRar

adardebs xelisuflebas. is uk-

ve mis jibeSia momaval arCevne-

bamde.

kidev erTi devnili afiqsi-

rebs Tavis azrs, mxolod im

imediT, rom inkognitod darCe-

ba:

-ukve erTi Tvea ministrTan

Sexvedras viTxov. ministramde

ver mivedi. mas CvenTvis ar ca-

lia. amaTi imedi rogor unda

mqondes. ar minda, magram iZule-

buli var, ucxoeTSi wavide. aba,

aq 28 larze rogor vacxovro

col-Svili? amaTi imedi ar

maqvs. eseni Cven ver dagvabrune-

ben Cvens saxlebSi. xandaxan ima-

sac vfiqrob, rom soxumSi dav-

brunde. ar mainteresebs, ras

ityvian Cemze. Tundac moRalate

da eris gamyidveli meZaxon.

col-Svils SimSiliT xom ar

movklav?

gaRizianebuli devnilebi sa-

ministros ezoSi erTmaneTs

uziareben azrs da amiT gahyavT

dro. ician, xelisufleba maT

problemebs ver moagvarebs, mag-

ram ra qnan, xandaxan tyuili

dapirebac stimuli. xom unda

icxovron, ufro sworad xom

unda iarsebon.

isev “usaxelo” devnili:

-axlobeli gardaicvala ru-

seTSi. dRemde gvpirdeba sami-

nistro fuls gamovyofT da

gadmosvenebaSi dagidgebiT gver-

diTo. axla arCevnebi axlovde-

ba da imedi maqvs, fuls gaiRe-

ben. mis sanacvlod ki Semovxa-

zav “5”-s. aba, ra vqna. Cvens

micvalebuls upatrod xom ar

mivagdebT. fuli amaT aqvT, Cven

ki imas vakeTebT, rac maT un-

daT.

mjera-ar mjeras principia

qveyanaSi. Aar sjera devnilebs,

magram xmas nacionalebs misce-

men. ratom? pasuxi martivia-

SiSi. aRar undaT mesamed devni-

loba. am SiSis fonze, winasaar-

Cevnod, devnilTa monacemebis

baza yvelaze bolos Sedis ces-

ko-Si. damuSavebuli, mowesrige-

buli da garantirebuli xmebi

ki xelisuflebis jibeSia.

ician devnilebma, yvelaferi

ician, magram ... neba Tavisufa-

lia! samiode kviraSi saqarTve-

los moqalaqeebi arCevans gaake-

Teben, ufro sworad, gaakeTebi-

neben!

qeTi yvelaSvili

devnilis xma xelisuflebis jibeSia

27saerTo gazeTi#39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.

batono zurab!

2012 wlis 12 agvistos `saqarT-

velos saarCevno kodeqsis~ 113-ee mux-

lis me-99 punqtis Tanaxmad, warmogid-

gineT `uflis saxeliT _ ufalia Cve-

ni simarTle~-ss mier saqarTvelos

parlamentis 2012 wlis 1 oqtombris

arCevnebSi partiis monawileobis

mxardamWer amomrCevelTa sia, saerTo

raodenobiT 26 896 (ocdaeqvsi aTas

rvaas oTxmocdaTeqvsmeti) xelmowera.

2012 wlis 16 agvistos ceskos

Sesabamisi samsaxuris mier aRniSnuli

siis Semowmebis Sedegad mizezTa gamo

gabaTilebuli iqna 11 322 (TerTmeti

aTas samasocdaori) xelmowera da

darCa 15 574 (TxuTmeti aTas xuTas

samocdaToTxmeti) xelmowera.

dafiqsirebuli xarvezis Sesavse-

bad gankuTvnili drois vadaSi, saqar-

Tvelos organuli kanonis `saqarTve-

los saarCevno kodeqsis~ 38-ee muxlis

me-22 punqtis Sesabamisad. Cvens mier

Segrovili da Tqvendami 2012 wlis 18

agvistos warmodgenili `uflis saxe-

liT _ ufalia Cveni simarTles mier

saqarTvelos parlamentis 2012 wlis

1 oqtombris arCevnebSi partiis mona-

wileobis mxardamWer amomrCevelTa

siis saerTo raodenoba gaxldaT: 12

339 (Tormeti aTas samas ocdacxrame-

ti).

centraluri saarCevno komisiis

administraciuli departamentis mier

2012 w. 18 agvistoTi daTariRebul

aqtSi, kerZod, vkiTxulobT `Tanamim-

devrobiT sul Semowmda 412 furcel-

ze 12 339 (Tormeti aTas samas oc-

dacxrameti) xelmowera; Semowmebis

Sedegad gabaTilda 113 furcelze

3390 (sami aTas samas oTxmocdaaTi)

xelmowera da darCa 8 949 (rva aTas

cxraas ormocdacxra) xelmowera~.

centraluri saarCevno komisiis

administraciuli departamentis uf-

rosis q-nn elisabed veliZis mier iqve

gakeTebuli zepiri ganmartebiT irkve-

oda, rom blankze xelmowerebis Seg-

rovebisaTvis pasuxismgebel pirTa mi-

er maTi xelmoweris TariRi, TiTqos-

da, arasrulad iyo miTiTebuli, rame-

Tu mag. weria _ `17.08.12 w.~ rac

arasrulia, da unda eweros

_`17.08.2012 w~-iio.

maSasadame, gamodioda, rom Cven-

Tvis ukve CaTvlil _ 15 574 (TxuT-

meti aTas xuTas samocdaToTxmet)

xelmoweras, emateboda `mxolod~ _

8.949 (rva aTas cxraas ormocdacx-

ra) xelmowera. rac jamSi gvaZlevs

24. 523 (ocdaoTxi aTas xuTas ocda-

sami) xelmoweras da aseTi `operaci-

is~ Sedegad, saqarTvelos organuli

kanonis `saqarTvelos saarCevno ko-

deqsis~ 113-ee muxlis me-99 punqtiT

gansazRvrul 25 000 savaldebulo

xelmoweras `akldeboda~ _ 477 xel-

mowera, anu Cven aRar gveZleoda sa-

arCevno subieqtad daregistrirebis

ufleba.

batono zurab!

aRniSnulTan mimarTebaSi Tqvens

mier miRebul #51-22012 gankarguleba-

Si, CvenTvis saarCevno registraciaze

uaris Tqmis safuZvlad _ saqarTve-

los organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos

saarCevno kodeqsis~ 38-ee muxlis me-44

punqtis gansazRvruli moTxovnebis

aradakmayofilebis miTiTeba zustad

ar asaxavs sinamdviles.

rogorc mogexsenebaT, xsenebuli

muxli gvauwyebs:

_`4. baTilia yvela xelmowera,

Sesrulebuli im blankze, romelic

dadasturebuli ar aris xelmowere-

bis SegrovebisaTvis pasuxismgebeli

piris mier, an romelSic miTiTebuli

ar aris an arasrulad aris miTi-

Tebuli am kanonis 37-ee muxlis me-

4 punqtiT gaTvaliswinebuli mo-

nacemebi~ (muxli 38,4), xolo:

_`4. mxardamWerTa siis blank-

Si miTiTebuli unda iyos xelmo-

werebis SegrovebisaTvis pasuxism-

gebeli piris saxeli, gvari, misa-

marTi (saqarTvelos moqalaqis pi-

radobis mowmobis mixedviT) da

sakontaqto telefonis nomeri, ag-

reTve blankis Sevsebis TariRi da

dadasturebuli unda iyos am pi-

ris xelmoweriT~ (muxli 37.4);

amasTanave, xelmoweris Sesru-

lebis TariRTan mimarTebaSi, saqarT-

velos organuli kanonis `saqarTve-

los saarCevno kodeqsis~ 38-ee muxlis

3-dd punqti gvauwyebs:

_`3. mxardamWerTa siaSi amomrCev-

lis xelmowera baTilad miiCneva, Tu:

d) xelmoweris TariRi miTiTebu-

li ar aris an ar emTxveva am kanoniT

gansazRvrul mxardamWerTa siis Sed-

genis vadas~.

Cvens mier warmodgenili mxardam-

WerTa xelmomweri blankebi saqarTve-

los organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos

saarCevno kodeqsis~ yvela moTxovnaTa

sruli dacviTaa Sesrulebuli, ker-

Zod ki yvelgan miTiTebulia. xelmo-

weris TariRi, romelic zustad emTx-

veva `am kanoniT gansazRvrul mxar-

damWerTa siis Sedgenis vadas~.

weria _`17.08.12 w.~ rac arasru-

lia, da unda eweros _`17.08.2012

w.~.io.

igi (es e.w. xarvezi) ar SeiZleba

gaxdes Cveni p-gg saarCevno subieqtad

daregistrirebaze uaris Tqmis safuZ-

veli, vinaidan, rogorc me _`17.08.12

w.~, aseve _ `17.08.2012 w.~, erTmane-

Tis identuria da zustad gansazRv-

ravs, rom xelmowera Sesrulebulia

mimdinare ori aTas Tormeti wlis 17

agvistos.

Sesabamisad, Cvens p-gg `uflis sa-

xeliT_ ufalia Cveni simarTles eqne-

ba ara _ 24.523 (ocdaoTxi aTas xu-

Tas ocdasami) xelmowera, aramed _

27 913 (ocdaSvidi aTas cxraas came-

ti) xelmowera, rac srul safuZvels

iZleva p-gg-ss `uflis saxeliT _ ufa-

lia Cveni simarTle~-ss saarCevno su-

bieqtad daregistrirebisaTvis.

batono zurab!

Cvengan damoukidebel mizezTa ga-

mo Cveni p-gg `uflis saxeliT _ ufa-

lia Cveni simarTle~-ss saarCevno su-

bieqtad ardaregistrirebis Taobaze,

Tqvens mier _ 2012 wlis 20 agvis-

tos miRebuli #51-22012 gankargule-

ba Cven mxolod _ 2012 wlis 24 ag-

vistos gadmogveca.

aRniSnuli #51-22012 gankargule-

bis miRebidan misi CvenTvis mxolod

me-44 dRes Cabarebisa gamo Cven SezRu-

dulni aRmovCndiT gamoviyenoT saqar-

Tvelos organuli kanonis `saqarTve-

los saarCevno kodeqsis~ me-99 TaviT

(saarCevno davis ganxorcieleba) gan-

sazRvruli, CvenTvis kanoniT miniWe-

buli _ gasaCivrebis 2-ddRiani vadis

ufleba (77-ee muxlis me-55 punqti, 78-

e muxlis me-110 punqti).

aRniSnulidan gamomdinare, mog-

marTavT TxovniT _ gaiTvaliswinoT

zemoTqmuli da saqarTvelos organu-

li kanonis `saqarTvelos saarCevno

kodeqsi~ TqvenTvis miniWebuli ufle-

biT miiRoT saqarTvelos parlamentis

2012 wlis 1 oqtombris arCevnebSi

Cveni p-gg `uflis saxeliT _ ufalia

Cveni simarTle~-ss saarCevno subieq-

tad daregistrirebis gadawyvetileba.

imedi gvaqvs Tqvengan miviRebT ze-

moT wamoWrili kiTxvebis Sesabamis

pasuxs.

pativiscemiT

`uflis saxeliT _

ufalia Cveni simarTle~-ss

xelmZRvaneli

`samarTlianobis aRdgenis

kavSiris xma erisa:

`ufalia Cveni simarTle~-ss

`laskaris~ Tavmjdomare

mixeil (gela) saluaSvili

Tbilisi, 2012 wlis

26 agvisto

saqarTvelos centraluri saarCevno komisiis

Tavmjdomares

baton zurab xaratiSvils!

g a n c x a d e b a

Cvenma prezidentma amaswinan-

del baTumis mosaxleobasTan Sex-

vedrisas ganacxada: xalxi, isev

Zvel, komunistebis dros misti-

ris, netav, im droSi kargi ra na-

xes? deni maSin ar iyo da gazi,

wyali maSin ar gvqonda da gza.

tanis dabana rom momindeboda,

wyals, vedroTi vacxelebdi da

`fr-fr~ ase visxamdio. Tavs zeviT

xelis aweviT aCvena wylis dasxma.

miSa, SeiZleba, prezidenti ka-

ci, aseTi mamali tyuilebis Tqmas

kadrulobdes da mosaxleobis wi-

naSe Tavs ircxvendes? Tu daga-

viwyda stalinis mier Seqmnil im

brwyinvale socialisturi forma-

ciis dros kargi ra iyo da ratom

mistiris mas Cveni mosaxleoba?

SegaxsenebT: _ im sistemis dros

qarTveli kaci, maTxovari ar mina-

xavs, rasac ver vityvi, dRevande-

li, Seni kapitalisturi sistemis

yofis, radgan isini yovel fexis

nabijze xelebgaSverilebi dganan.

prezident kacs, im sistemaze

augis saTqmelad ena rogor gib-

rundeba! radgan maSin visac muSa-

oba undoda yvelas Tavisi sainte-

reso samuSao hqonda. (axla mili-

oni welic rom gavides, is dasaq-

meba aRarasodes aRar iqneba). ma-

Sin umuSevari ar arsebobda, rad-

gan TiTqmis yvela fabrika-qarxne-

bis SesasvlelebSi gamokruli iyo

siebi, gvWirdeba esa da es specia-

listebio. ama Tu im fabrikaSi, an

qarxanaSi samuSao Tu ar moewone-

boda, meoreSi gadadioda. Tu erT

saproeqto organizaciaSi ar moe-

woneboda samuSao, meoreSi, an ro-

melime sammarTveloSi Soulobda

TavisTvis Sesaferis adgils, an

sulac romelime kvleviT insti-

tutSi moewyoboda da a.S. romle-

bic Sen gaauqme da Senobebi dayi-

de.

sacxovrebeli binebi centra-

lizebulad Tbeboda, zamTarSi, bi-

naSi, iseTi Semawuxebeli siTbo

iyo, rom siTbos Semomaval mileb-

ze, onkanebs vketavdiT. wylis on-

kans gadavabrunebdi _ civi wyali

modioda, gadmovabrunebdi da cxe-

li wyali moCqrialebda. deni 4

kapiki Rirda, gazi, Tu ginda aTa-

si kubi dagexarja, 20 kapikze

mets aravin mTxovda da mTlianad

yvela saxis komunaluri xarjebi

5 maneTze meti ar mijdeboda. ax-

la ki zamTarSi, marto komunalu-

ri gadasaxadi, 400 larze adis.

maSin minimaluri pensia 80 maneTi

rom iyo, im oTxmocmaneTian pensi-

onersac ki cxovreba kacurad Se-

eZlo, aRar vlaparakob 140 mane-

Tian pensionerebze, rasac is 80-

maneTiani pensioneri iZenda, dRe-

vandelma pensionerma igive pro-

duqtebi rom SeiZinos, mas 640

lari unda hqondes, radgan maSin

kilogrami xorci 2 maneTi Rirda

da 80 maneTad 40 kilo xorcs yi-

dulobda, rasac dRevandeli kur-

siT 640 lari sWirdeba. amitom

stalinis mier Seqmnil socializ-

mSi cxovreba, yvelasaTvis saamuri

iyo da imitom mistirian im yofas,

radgan msoflioSi yvelaze demok-

ratiuli formacia iyo socializ-

mi. amitomac axla, Cveni mosaxle-

oba ambobs: _ Turme komunizmSi

gvicxovria, da Cven ki, vera vxvde-

bodiTo. axla ki, vinc xalxis mi-

er Seqmnili qoneba daitaca, komu-

nizmSi arian im qonebis Semqmnele-

bi ki jojoxeTSi.

Tqvengan nalanZRi socialis-

turi sistemis dros am xnis kacs

me ar maxsovs komunistebs rome-

lime ojaxisTvis an gazi CaeWraT

da an deni gamoerToT. Tqvengan na-

qebma kapitalistebma ki Cemi karis

mezoblebs oTxsulian ojaxs,

romlebsac ori mcirewlovani _ 8

da 10 wlis bavSvebi hyavT, 4

wlis win (rodesac es bavSvebi 4

da 6 wlisani iyvnen) gazi rom ga-

mourTes, es ojaxi dResac zam-

TarSi gaTbobis gareSea, bavSvebi

skolidan rom modian loginSi

wvebian da ise Tbebian. am ojaxs

dResac deni gamorTuli aqvs. bav-

Svebi, saRamoTi, sxvis ganaTebul

fanjrebs rom uyureben, dedas

eubnebian: _ ra bednierebi arian is

bavSvebi, visi fanjrebidanac eleq-

tronis Suqi gamokrTiso. SeiZle-

ba mosaxleobis aseT yofaSi yof-

nis dros misi prezidenti Tavs

iwonebdes?!

batono mixeil, me rom prezi-

denti viyo, mivi-

dodi im ojaxSi,

am mware sinamd-

viles rom vna-

xavdi, imave ojaxSi Tavs Cemi sa-

kuTari xeliT moviklavdi, rom

Sens gaumaZRar da usulgulo ka-

pitalistebs, egeba, patara sindi-

sis qenjna egrZnoT.

samagierod, dRevandeli Seni

`elita~ _ parlamentarebi, sami-

nistroebis muSakebi, gamgeblebi

da sxva. am kapitalisturma siste-

mam bednierze bednierebad aqcies.

TiTqmis yvela maTganma sasaxleebi

aiSena da 100 aTasebi raSi daxar-

jon, aRar ician. maT xalxic da

qveyanac fexebze hkidiaT. amitomac

Tqvenc da Tqvens garemocvasac,

komunistebis da socializmis sax-

senebelic ki gezizRebaT. komunis-

tebis mier dRe da Rame oflismR-

vreli SromiT aSenebuli socia-

lizmis qonebiT, uSromelad rom

gamilionerdiT, ra Tqma unda,

Tqven im informaciis gaxsenebac

ar gindaT, amitomac aris, rom

Tqven im sistemas avadsaxsenebels

eZaxiT. xolo Cven, vinc is soci-

alizmi avaSeneT da vimeoreb, vis

mier Seqmnili qonebiTac Tqven ga-

milionerdiT, am simdidris Semqm-

nelebs Carecxilebs gveZaxiT.

didad Seamayeba, rom Cemi Tav-

dadebuli, 52-wliani SromiT so-

cialistur saqarTvelos ise vem-

saxure, rom erTi kapikic ki, Cemi

xelfasiT, Cemi premiiT da Cemi ga-

mogonebebiT _ honoraris saxiT,

saxelmwifos salarodan ar mimi-

Ria. e.i. rasac me saxelmwifo ar

maZlevda, anu binZuri fulisTvis

xeli arasodes ar momikidia. miSa,

albaT, Senc da Seni nacebic ity-

vian _ e.i. saSualeba ar gqonda da

imitom ar agiRiao. ara, Cveno

uZRebo Svilebo, maSin me ris sa-

Sualebac mqonda, is rom Tqven

gqonodaT, Tqveni Roruli moTxo-

vnilebis gamo dRes yvela Tqvenga-

ni, miliarderi iqnebodiT.

1980 wlidan 1990 wlamde

elmavalmSenebel qarxanaSi 105 mi-

lioni maneTis generaluri rekon-

struqcia midioda (rac maSin, im

105 milioni maneTiT keTdeboda,

dRes imas 2-jer 105 miliardi

dolariTac ver gaakeTeb). am re-

konstruqciis ganyofilebis uf-

rosi viyavi me, miSa, albaT, yvela

Seni naci ityvis, maSin su-

leli yofilao. Cveno momx-

veWelebo, sulelebi gamogo-

nebebs ver igoneben. (eqvsio-

de wlis win sruliad Sem-

TxveviT, rusul JurnalSi,

Cemi erT-erTi gamogoneba,

romelic me 1972 wels

cxovrebaSi davnerge, iapone-

lebis erT-erT instituts,

34 wlis Semdeg gamougonia.

e.i. rac me, ramodenime aTeu-

li wlis win, cxovrebaSi ganva-

xorciele, imas iaponiis institu-

tis tvini 34 wlis Semdeg Caswv-

da da 250 milioni dolaris eko-

nomia miiRo, maSinve aviRe Cemi ga-

mogonebis mowmoba da JurnaliT

xelSi mivedi saqpatentSi _ rad-

gan honorari, rogorc pirvel ga-

momgonebels, kanoniT me mekuTvno-

da, sadac miTxres: _ ho, vxedavT,

rom gamogonebis avtoric Tqvena

xarT da kanoniT honoraric Tqven

gekuTvniT, magram am ususur sa-

qarTvelos imxela iaponiasTan Wi-

dili ar SeuZlia. isev sabWoTa

kavSiri rom iyos, maSin ki dedas

vutirebdiTo).

afxazeTSi omi rom daiwyo, Ce-

mi qveynis mTlianobis dasacavad

maSinve gamovcxaddi lenraionis

samxedro komisariatSi. magram ko-

misarma bilaniSvilma 58 wlis

asakis gamo ar gamiSva, rezervSi

Camwera da miTxra: _ RmerTma ar

qnas, Tqveni asakis xalxi dagvWir-

des, Tu dagvWirdiT, dagiZaxebTo.

vinaidan me ar wamiyvanes, Cemi ga-

mogonebebiT mogrovili honorari

_ 72 aTasi maneTi, bolo kapikam-

de sul afxazeTis Tavdacvis fon-

dSi Cavricxe.

im socialisturi sistemis

dros Cven `Carecxilebis~ 90

procenti, dRedaRam muxlCauxre-

lad vSromobdiT da wyobas_ so-

cializms imitom mistiris mosax-

leoba. Tqven Tqveni Roruli

moTxovnilebebis gamo rigiT moqa-

laqeebs cxovreba jojoxeTad

gviqcieT.

avTandil qurxuli

is ra prezidentia, romelic Tavisxalxs danapirebs ar usrulebs

da yovel fexis nabijze atyuebs?

24 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w.28C M Y K

astrologiuri

prognozi

verZi _ am kvirSi pro-

fesionaluri winsvla

geliT. konkretulad es

SeiZleba iyos axali samuSao

adgili an gasamrjelos moma-

teba.

kuro _ mimdinare pe-

riodSi moimatebs Tqveni

momxibvleloba da Sarmi,

es ki sawinaaRmdego sqesi ada-

mianebs Tqvendami simpaTiiT ga-

nawyobs.

tyupebi _ Tu Tqven

gaTavisufldebiT gaore-

bisgan da amasTan konce-

ntraciasac moaxerxebT, Sesa-

Zloa seriozul warmatebebs

miaRwioT.

kirCxibi _ kviris pi-

rvel naxevarSi mosalo-

dnelia garkveuli pro-

blemebi gagiCndeT da es, Ziri-

Tadad, dakavSirebuli iqneba

Tqvens emociur mdgomareoba-

sTan.

lomi _ moerideT ma-

rto moqmedebas, TviT

ideebsac marto nu dage-

gmavT. nebismier saqmian urTi-

erTobaSi uSualoba da saqmisa-

dmi profesiuli midgoma gamo-

avlineT.

qalwuli _ am peri-

odSi miiRebT metad sa-

Wiro informacias, rome-

lic Tqvens karieras sasikeTod

waadgeba, Tumca es informacia

praqtikulad unda gamoiyenoT.

saswori _ am kviraSi

nu gamoiCenT ambicuro-

bas da sakuTar Tavze

nurc zedmet pasuxismgeblobas

aiRebT.

morieli _ nebismier

umniSvnelo wvrilmans

seriozulad miudeqiT,

raTa uyuradRebobis gamo sabe-

diswero Secdomebi ar da-

uSvaT.

mSvildosani _ Se-

saZlebelia, saqmiani ur-

TierTobebi droebiT da-

muxruWdes da iZulebiT cvli-

lebebis gakeTebac mogiwioT.

nu aboboqrdebiT da partni-

orebs nu daupirispirdebiT.

Txis rqa _ iyaviT aq-

tiuri, originaluri da

nebismier urTierTobebSi

gulwrfeloba gamoiCineT, ra-

dgan winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi

Tqvens garSemomyofebs gauCnde-

baT survili TqvenTan urTi-

erToba gawyviton.

merwyuli _ am kvi-

raSi Tqveni yuradReba

mTlianad ojaxur pro-

blemebze gadaerTveba. es ki sa-

msaxurebriv saqmeebs droebiT

ukan gadaswevs.

Tevzebi _ mimdinare

kviraSi `dasajdomad~

namdvilad ver moicliT

da mTel Tqvens energias axal

da amasTan, saintereso ideebis

ganxorcielebaze daxarjavT.

1. froidma kokaini 1884 wels gasin-

ja da gaognebuli darCa misi SedegebiT. am

nivTierebis gamoyenebis Semdeg moexsna dep-

resia, daubrunda sakuTari Tavis rwmena.

axalgazrda zigmundma statia gamoaqvey-

na saxelwodebiT ,,kokainis Sesaxeb~, sadac

igi rekomendacias uwevda kokains, rogorc

adgilobrivi gautkivarebis saSualebas, ro-

gorc asTmis, sakvebmomnelebel wamals, rac

depresiasa da nevrozebs Svelis.

fsiqoanalizis mamam im xanebSi bevri

naSromi gamoaqveyna kokainis Tvisebebis Se-

saxeb, sadac aRwerili iyo am nivTierebis miRebiT gamowveuli yvela

reaqcia. Tumca froidis daintereseba kokainiT SemTxveviTi ar yofi-

la. narkotikis borotad gamoyenebis gamo daiRupa froidis uaxloe-

si megobari enst fon flaiSli.

megobris sikvdilamde froidi cdilobda flaiSli ganekurna nar-

kodamokidebulebisagan da kokainis SenacvlebiT mkurnalobda mas. mag-

ram moxda ise, rom flaiSli axla kokaindamokidebuli gaxda. miiRo

didi raodenobis kokaini da gardaicvala.

magram davubrundeT kvlav zigmund froids. TviTonac bevrs cdi-

lobda gaqceoda TeTr fxvnils, magram es arc ise ioli aRmoCnda.

2. endi uorxoli - obetroli

obetroli arc Tu ise gavrcelebuli

narkotikia. am klasifikaciaSi aderals

ufro icnoben. am ukanasknels receptiT

iZlevian pacientisTvis, romelsac samu-

Saoze meti yuradReba da Sromisunaria-

noba sWirdeba. pop varskvlavi endi uor-

xoli obetrolis abebs ise ylapavda, ro-

gorc ,,tik-takis~ marcvlebs. miT ufro,

aseTi tipis preparatebi fsiqologiur

aramdgradobas, depresias, gulis muSao-

bis Seferxebas iwvevs. magram obetrols

kidev erTi Tviseba aqvs _ is swrafad

iwyebs moqmedebas da swrafadve mTavrdeba. ra unda hqna am dros? un-

da ylapo da ylapo abebi. Sedegi? yovelTvis fataluria.

3. mailz devisi _ heroini

Tqveni ar vici, magram mailz devisi Ce-

mi usayvarlesi musikosia. mas ,,jazis Sav

baronsac~ uwodeben. me-20 saukunis am

udides kompozitors seriozuli proble-

mebi hq qonda narkotikebTan. misi Semoqme-

debiTi moRvaweobis dros iyo periodebi,

roca musikosi saerTod ver muSaobda. da

yvelafer amaSi narkotiki iyo damnaSave.

magram mailz devisis uaxloesi megobris,

cnobili boqsioris Suga rea robinsonis

daxmarebiT oTxwliani ,,brZolis~ Semdeg

SeZlo gamomZvraliyo narkotikuli jur-

Rmulidan da dabruneboda Semoqmedebas.

4. balzaki _ kofeini

bevri Tqvengani ityvis, diliT ver

vfxizldebi, samuSaos ver Sevudgebi Wiqa

yava Tu ar davlieo. magram es aris zus-

tad yavadamokidebuleba da es ,,awuxebda~

swored did frang mweralsac. mogexsene-

baT, balzaki sakmaod nayofieri Semoqmedi

iyo, igi yoveldRe saaTobiT muSaobda. ho-

da. formaSi rom yofiliyo, svamda bevr ya-

vas, Zils rom gaqceoda. mas uyvarda Tqma

_ es surnelovani nayeni Cems gonebaSi

araCveulebriv azrebs badebso. magram dRes

iTvleba, rom swored yavis gadaWarbebuli

moxmarebis gamo daavadda mwerali gulis

avadmyofobiT, rac misi gardacvalebis mizezi gaxda axalgazrda asak-

Si. balzaki xom 50 wlisa gardaicvala?! igi dReSi oc Wiqa yavas mi-

irTmevda. aseT mdgomreobas yavadamokidebuleba anu kofeinizmi hqvia

da toqsikomaniis erT-erTi saxea. igi iwvevs gulsisxlZarRvTa daava-

debebs, nervuli sistemis daavadebebs, Tavis tkivilebs, Zilis darR-

vevas, nervul aSlilobas, aRgznebadobas, SfoTvas. xSirad adamians pe-

simistur ganwyobas uqmnis.

5. luis keroli _ opiumi

kerolis axalgazodobisas opiums lau-

danums eZaxdnen da bevri adamiani svamda

opiums, roca odnav SeuZlod iyo, an Tavi

stkioda. aravin dafiqrebula maSin imaze,

rom SeiZleboda am wamalze damokidebulni

gamxdariyvnen. ase mouvida inglisel mwe-

rals Carlz lutvij dodjsons, luis ke-

rolis saxeliT cnobil adamians. igi mig-

renis mZime daavadebiT itanjeboda. tkivi-

lis gasayuCeblad mwerali laudanums svam-

da. miT umetes, rom adreul bavSvobaSi mas

seriozuli fsiqologiuri problemebi

hqonda. narkotiki ki ,,exmareboda~ mas kompleqsis moxsnasa da saku-

Tari Tavisadmi rwmenis dabrunebaSi. roca mis wigns ,,alisa saocre-

baTa qveyanaSi~ waikiTxavT, darwmundebiT, rom luis keroli, am wig-

nis werisas narkotikis zemoqmedebis qveS iyo. Tumca unda iTqvas, rom

swored narkotiki iyo, ramac mis cxovrebas seriozuli ziani miaye-

na.

6. edit piafi

yvelafers iRebda. cnobilia, rom saf-

rangeTis sayvareli momRerali 1951 wels

seriozul avtokatastrofaSi mohyva. rom-

lis Sedegadac momReralma dakarga xeli

da ori nekni da sakmaod arasaxarbielo

Sesaxedaoba miiRo. amis Semdeg mimarTa man

morfins. svamda yvelafers, rac xelSi

moxvdeboda. am saSinel avariamde cota

xniT adre swored avtokatastrofaSi da-

iRupa editis sayvareli adamiani. momRe-

rals realobiT gamowveuli saSineli dep-

resiisgan Tavi rom daeRwia, alkohols mi-

eZala. TviTmkvlelobisgan igi megobarma

qalbatonma ixsna. alkoholizmisgan gansakurneblad mkurnalobam Se-

degi ver gamoiRo. sasmelsa da depresias momReralma Tavi ver daaR-

wia. miuxedavad amisa, momRerali scenaze mainc gamodioda. Tavis did

mwuxarebas scenaze gamosvlisas veravin amCnevda, maSinac ki, roca is

ukve filtvis kiboTi mZimed iyo daavadebuli da sunTqvas uxuTavda

yelSi mibjenili sisxli.

7. magram iciT, Tqven rom

uiliam folkneri alkoho-

liki iyo?

diax, swored is amerikeli mwe-

rali da novelisti, romelic un-

da giTxraT, dRemde rCeba CemTvis

usayvarles mwerlad da litera-

turuli azrovnebis ugvirgvino me-

fed. Tumca, rogorc amboben, sxva

aranakleb cnobil da saxelovan

amerikel mwerlebsac stanjavda

Turme es saSineli Cveva. frensis ficjeraldi, ernest heminguei, ed-

gar po, sinkler luisi, ingliseli poeti da dramaturgi dilan to-

masi. alkoholi Zalian bevri cnobili mwerlisTvis iyo narkotiki,

romelmac SeiZleba iTqvas, maT didi sikeTe ar moutana.

8. maria kalasi _ kualudi

cnobili berZeni operis momRe-

rali maria kalasi sakmaod putkuna

qalbatoni gaxldaT, magram Tavisi

karieris mwvervalze man momenta-

lurad dakarga wona, amboben, rom

is svamda kualuds da swored am

abebma Camoacila zedmeti kilogra-

mebi, Tumca is yovelTvis irwmune-

boda, rom misi sigamxdre mkacri

dietis Sedegi iyo.

9. trumen kepoti

trumen kepotma mwerlur warmatebas ma-

Sin miaRwia, roca aravin eloda amas, magram

swored am warmatebam daRupa igi. fufuneba,

cxovrebis araswori wesi, amave dros bevri

stresi da nerviuloba iyo is, ramac trumen

kepoti alkoholizmamde miiyvana. Tuki vinme

mas sasmels daumalavda, mwerali sasowark-

veTilebaSi vardeboda. bolo wlebSi is nar-

kotikebs mieZala. sikvdilis Semdeg mwerlis

sisxlSi aRmoaCines didi raodenobiT barbi-

turani, valiumi, epilefsiis sawinaaRmdego

da tkivilgamayuCebeli preparatebis kvali.

10. hemfri devi

cnobili didi britaneli qimikosi da

gamomgonebeli, romelmac udidesi aRmoCe-

nebi gaakeTa qimiaSi miiCnevda, rom azoti

ar aris sawamlavi. yovelive es man saku-

Tar Tavze gamoscada. hemfrim daiwyo azo-

tis ynosva da aRniSna, rom azotis sunma

SeiZleba adamianSi sasiamovno ganwyobac

gamoiwvios. iqedan moyolebuli qimikosi

yoveldRe ynosavda azots da miT ufro

metad grZnobda maTrobela efeqts, rac

masSi mxiarul halucinaciebs warmoqmnida.

am ,,zebunebrivi gazis~ zemoqmedebiT dawera hemfri devim leqsebi. is

am leqsebSi azotis moqmedebiT gamowveul ganwyobaze laparakobda.

erTxel, roca saxelovanma qimikosma gazis 5 didi doza Seiynosa,

3 saaTis ganmavlobaSi goneba dakarga, Tumca gamofxizlebis Semdeg eq-

sperimentebi sakuTar Tavze ar Seuwyvetia. swored aman gamoiwvia mec-

nieris seriozuli daavadeba da sikvdili.

moamzada ana vadaWkoriam

msoflios 10 cnobili narkomani