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772 sectional interests to deviate him from his path. The voluntary hospitals should realise that they have a much better bargaining power today than they will have in a few years time, when publicly controlled hospitals have had a chance to develop. The present hospital service is far from perfect and needs a drastic overhaul ; so it is to be hoped that those who negotiate on behalf of the medical profession and hospital interests generally will be successful within the framework of the white-paper proposals, in helping the Minister of Health to produce a National Health Service ’ second to none, in which, incidentally, the conditions of service and remuneration for the medical profession and other hospital staff are such as to attract the most suitable personnel. Hitchin. A. A. CUNNINGHAM. GROUP MEDICINE AND PRIVATE PRACTICE SIR,—We learnt our medicine in hospital (bed and outpatients). This is ideal group medicine. Let us reproduce this for every 10,000 people throughout the country and unite to give this service, which will improve us by mutual example and precept. This is incompatible with private practice and private enterprise. I began to study medicine after service in the last war. Next year (after 26 years) I hope to complete the payment of goodwill for my present practice. There is still a mortgage on the house. Even if I had to give the goodwill of my practice I am ready to join such an Ideal Medical Service today. UNUNITED. DISCUSSING THE WHITE PAPER SIR,—Halving attended discussions on the white- paper, called by the British Medical Association, in two very different towns in England, I am impressed by certain similarities. 1. Each was attended by a member of the highest councils of the BMA who to a large extent " managed " the meeting in spite of his protestations to the contrary. This tended to give the impression, rightly or wrongly, that the BMA has a policy which was fixed, and, it was hoped, would be merely endorsed by the meeting, or the questionary. 2. As was expected, the average age of the members was well over 45, and the motions passed were those of that age-group. 3. The question of buying and selling of practices was avoided, even when it had been raised. It seems that the unrepresented young doctors have had little chance to discuss the matter, though I should imagine that nearly all those who have never embarked on a practice in this way will wish to avoid doing so now. And many of those, like myself, who see a prospect of years of debt ahead of them, thanks to war service, might welcome a chance to receive even an incomplete com- pensation, in exchange for freedom from this anxiety, and work in a well-run health centre. There are ad- vantages in the cooperation and lack of competition which have been appreciated in a military hospital, and which are often absent from general practice. 4. There was condemnation of health centres. So strong was the feeling of the older men that one wondered what hidden motive lay behind it. It seems certain that these centres are going to be established by the Government, and time could be spent more fruitfully in making sure that they are as efficient as possible (if this is desired), rather than in destructive criticism of the whole idea. The younger generation will probably staff them very largely, after demobilisation, and it is they who are debarred from making their suggestions just now. 5. The power to direct young practitioners was strongly rejected. No-one likes being " posted," but some means must be found of redistributing doctors, at least temporarily. Increased financial inducement -should play a part. Could not a young doctor be given a choice of vacancies, much as he at present has only a limited choice of house appointments at any one time ? This would be much preferable to a definite posting, often given against his will, which is the state of affairs apparently expected by these meetings. 6. There was a division of opinion about means of remuneration, though agreement on the principle that the income must have relation to services rendered. Can it be said that this principle is strictly adhered to under the present system of buying practices ? Of course there must be an increase of remuneration with age and experience. 7. Unfortunately the approach to each question seemed to be from the point of view of the doctor rather than from that of the patient. Though the latter is being avoided in this letter, I feel that both points of view must be fully considered if we wish to retain the public goodwill. 8. There was universal condemnation of the adminis- trative proposals of the white-paper, and in this .1 feel in complete agreement with BMA criticisms. THIRTY-FOUR Temp. Captain RAMC PATHOLOGY AND THE NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE SIR,—Pathology, except tor a briet reterence to public health bacteriology and to " laboratory service," is not mentioned in the white-paper, and we feel it is time that constructive proposals regarding the position of patho- logists and the part which pathology ought to play in the new medical service should be made by practising pathologists. We have no mandate to speak for our fellows or for any administrative authority, but we have reason to believe that our views accord with those of the majority of our colleagues. We believe that the closest coordination between the two main branches of pathology-academic and applied -is essential to a satisfactory pathological service. Nothing should be allowed to split the component parts into a number of watertight compartments. Academic pathology, mainly concerned with teaching and research, will inevitably be centred in the medical departments of the universities, and will, we suppose, be fully considered in the report of the Interdepartmental Committee. It would, however, be undesirable were research and teaching to be confined to university departments and research institutions. The efficiency of laboratories chiefly concerned with routine work can be ensured only if their staffs have opportunity for independent investigations, and for benefiting by the stimulus that teaching offers. For this reason, the staffing of hospital laboratories must be adequate enough to afford the pathologists time to make use of these opportunities as they arise. It may prove expedient, at any rate for the time being, to place what is called public health bacteriology under a separate administration. Whilst we should regret this, we believe that the detrimental effect on pathology as a whole which such a schism would entail could be mitigated to a considerable extent if adequate coördina- tion with the rest of pathology could still be maintained. Clinical pathology is an important part of a general hospital service and as such must be closely bound up with the general scheme of hospital management. But a brief consideration of the technical practices of clinical pathology and public health bacteriology shows that they are so closely related as to make division unprofit- able. The cooperation of the two main branches of patho-. logy may be seriously handicapped by being adminis- tered by three different organisations-university, ministry, and local or regional authority. The desired coordination of the parts into one whole, however, can be achieved primarily by the pathologists themselves, provided that the scheme of administration is such as to permit this. Within the areas of the joint authority, as envisaged in the white-paper, there should be pathological com- mittees capable of advising the joint authority on all pathological matters. These committees should be representative of all the laboratories in the area, and constituted in a similar manner to those which are already working satisfactorily in some of the defence regions. The university departments of pathology should retain their primary functions of teaching and research, and act as the training centres of sufficient pathologists to supply the needs of the service. The professors should act as the friends and advisers of all pathologists in their regions and, in some cases, as national advisers

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sectional interests to deviate him from his path. Thevoluntary hospitals should realise that they have a muchbetter bargaining power today than they will have in afew years time, when publicly controlled hospitals havehad a chance to develop.The present hospital service is far from perfect and

needs a drastic overhaul ; so it is to be hoped that thosewho negotiate on behalf of the medical profession andhospital interests generally will be successful within theframework of the white-paper proposals, in helping theMinister of Health to produce a National Health Service ’second to none, in which, incidentally, the conditions ofservice and remuneration for the medical professionand other hospital staff are such as to attract the mostsuitable personnel.

Hitchin. A. A. CUNNINGHAM.

GROUP MEDICINE AND PRIVATE PRACTICE

SIR,—We learnt our medicine in hospital (bed andoutpatients). This is ideal group medicine. Let usreproduce this for every 10,000 people throughout thecountry and unite to give this service, which will improveus by mutual example and precept.

This is incompatible with private practice and privateenterprise.. I began to study medicine after service in the lastwar. Next year (after 26 years) I hope to completethe payment of goodwill for my present practice. Thereis still a mortgage on the house. Even if I had to givethe goodwill of my practice I am ready to join such anIdeal Medical Service today.

UNUNITED.

DISCUSSING THE WHITE PAPER

SIR,—Halving attended discussions on the white-paper, called by the British Medical Association, in twovery different towns in England, I am impressed bycertain similarities.

1. Each was attended by a member of the highestcouncils of the BMA who to a large extent " managed "the meeting in spite of his protestations to the contrary.This tended to give the impression, rightly or wrongly,that the BMA has a policy which was fixed, and, it washoped, would be merely endorsed by the meeting, orthe questionary.

2. As was expected, the average age of the memberswas well over 45, and the motions passed were thoseof that age-group.

3. The question of buying and selling of practiceswas avoided, even when it had been raised. It seemsthat the unrepresented young doctors have had littlechance to discuss the matter, though I should imaginethat nearly all those who have never embarked on apractice in this way will wish to avoid doing so now. Andmany of those, like myself, who see a prospect of yearsof debt ahead of them, thanks to war service, mightwelcome a chance to receive even an incomplete com-pensation, in exchange for freedom from this anxiety,and work in a well-run health centre. There are ad-vantages in the cooperation and lack of competitionwhich have been appreciated in a military hospital,and which are often absent from general practice.

4. There was condemnation of health centres. Sostrong was the feeling of the older men that one wonderedwhat hidden motive lay behind it. It seems certainthat these centres are going to be established by theGovernment, and time could be spent more fruitfullyin making sure that they are as efficient as possible (ifthis is desired), rather than in destructive criticism of thewhole idea. The younger generation will probably staffthem very largely, after demobilisation, and it is they whoare debarred from making their suggestions just now.

5. The power to direct young practitioners was

strongly rejected. No-one likes being " posted," butsome means must be found of redistributing doctors,at least temporarily. Increased financial inducement-should play a part. Could not a young doctor be givena choice of vacancies, much as he at present has onlya limited choice of house appointments at any onetime ? This would be much preferable to a definiteposting, often given against his will, which is the stateof affairs apparently expected by these meetings.

6. There was a division of opinion about means ofremuneration, though agreement on the principle that

the income must have relation to services rendered.Can it be said that this principle is strictly adhered tounder the present system of buying practices ? Ofcourse there must be an increase of remuneration withage and experience.

7. Unfortunately the approach to each questionseemed to be from the point of view of the doctor ratherthan from that of the patient. Though the latter isbeing avoided in this letter, I feel that both points ofview must be fully considered if we wish to retain thepublic goodwill.

8. There was universal condemnation of the adminis-trative proposals of the white-paper, and in this .1 feelin complete agreement with BMA criticisms.

THIRTY-FOURTemp. Captain RAMC

PATHOLOGY AND THE NATIONAL HEALTHSERVICE

SIR,—Pathology, except tor a briet reterence to publichealth bacteriology and to " laboratory service," is notmentioned in the white-paper, and we feel it is time thatconstructive proposals regarding the position of patho-logists and the part which pathology ought to play inthe new medical service should be made by practisingpathologists. We have no mandate to speak for ourfellows or for any administrative authority, but we havereason to believe that our views accord with those ofthe majority of our colleagues.We believe that the closest coordination between the

two main branches of pathology-academic and applied-is essential to a satisfactory pathological service.Nothing should be allowed to split the component partsinto a number of watertight compartments.Academic pathology, mainly concerned with teaching

and research, will inevitably be centred in the medicaldepartments of the universities, and will, we suppose,be fully considered in the report of the InterdepartmentalCommittee. It would, however, be undesirable wereresearch and teaching to be confined to universitydepartments and research institutions. The efficiencyof laboratories chiefly concerned with routine work canbe ensured only if their staffs have opportunity forindependent investigations, and for benefiting by thestimulus that teaching offers. For this reason, thestaffing of hospital laboratories must be adequate enoughto afford the pathologists time to make use of theseopportunities as they arise.

It may prove expedient, at any rate for the time being,to place what is called public health bacteriology undera separate administration. Whilst we should regretthis, we believe that the detrimental effect on pathologyas a whole which such a schism would entail could bemitigated to a considerable extent if adequate coördina-tion with the rest of pathology could still be maintained.Clinical pathology is an important part of a generalhospital service and as such must be closely bound upwith the general scheme of hospital management. Buta brief consideration of the technical practices of clinicalpathology and public health bacteriology shows thatthey are so closely related as to make division unprofit-able.The cooperation of the two main branches of patho-.

logy may be seriously handicapped by being adminis-tered by three different organisations-university,ministry, and local or regional authority. The desiredcoordination of the parts into one whole, however, canbe achieved primarily by the pathologists themselves,provided that the scheme of administration is such as topermit this.Within the areas of the joint authority, as envisaged

in the white-paper, there should be pathological com-mittees capable of advising the joint authority on allpathological matters. These committees should berepresentative of all the laboratories in the area, andconstituted in a similar manner to those which arealready working satisfactorily in some of the defenceregions.The university departments of pathology should

retain their primary functions of teaching and research,and act as the training centres of sufficient pathologiststo supply the needs of the service. The professorsshould act as the friends and advisers of all pathologistsin their regions and, in some cases, as national advisers