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Proceedings of the Election Code Revision Convention
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2008 ELECTION CODE REVISIONJabez Camp SiteOctober 29, 2008
START: 8:15 a.m.END: 4:00 p.m.
ATTENDANCE
Marcc Jeffrey Sioco USCEMa. Theresa Edalla USCEHernan Pantolla USCAileen Orong USCKrisna Rose Benbinuto HFRizza Mendoza HFMargaret Musa CSORonnie Resurreccion CSOJihan Ledesma PIBayani Malicudo PIJulius Rocas SENTROJuan Marianito Delantar SENTROArwin Cortez SINAGMarie Rachel Coros SINAGSebedi Justin Busayong CEATNeil Paulo Hernando CEATAngelo Jed Velasco CIHMMary Grace Sanares CIHMFlorencio Romano III CLAJet Caesar Lontok CLEAsiangel Austin COECharlotte Malabanan COEChristine Gaile Pañares COSJudea Ann Moralidad COSDennyson Hilbero CBALeign Anne Oliveros CHAIRRosciel Ojena CO-CHAIR
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AGENDA DISCUSSION ISSUES/ CONCERNS
RECOMMENDATION DECISION
PrayerRevision Proper
Continuation of Article 7 Section 3
SINAGLast night’s
discussion was already clear.
COMMITTEEWhat if you’re just a simple
student?
USCThe provisions on the election code is intended for candidates and
not for any student.
HFWe support
SENTRO’s idea since it came
from the original election code.
USCIn subsection c can we
change ‘student’ to ‘candidate’?
SENTROIt should remain
‘student’ because of the keyword university
property and the university does not own
the campaign paraphernalia. It can be
student, candidate or political party.
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USCYes, there may be prohibition but is there a provision that would punish
the student? Or maybe it can be
directed to SWAFO.
USCEIt is campaign
prohibitions and it can be directed to SWAFO since we
do not have the provision for that.
SENTROIf it will be directed to
SWAFO, they will refer to the
Student Handbook that only focuses on
university property. We
have the authority and jurisdiction over ordinary
students. That’s why there’s USC
and USCE.
CEATMotion to adopt Article 7 Section 33 seconded by
COECan we add ‘the act have
been done’?
Amenable to the committee
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USCE
USCWe are not yet sure if it can be
included.
COMMITTEEIn student?
USCFor All.
CHAIRPut the section in
reconsideration if there are still suggestions.
Adopted
VOTEYes – 11
No – 1 (CLA)Abstain – 1
(USC)
Article 7 Section 34
COMMITTEEWe added ‘SEC investigation’ to avoid confusion with the Student Handbook. What should be first,
trial or investigation?
HFIsn’t it that it’s the same with the last paragraph of Sec.
33?
SENTROInvestigation first before
trial.
COMMITTEEDelete Sec. 34.
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SENTROManner of filing protest should be included in the
article of protest. The committee
did a good job in adding a
provision for campaign
prohibition.
SINAGMotion to
reconsider Sec. 33, we have
something to add in the campaign
prohibition. Seconded by
ALL.
USCThe committee is
ready.
USCMotion to have a
2 min. caucus seconded by
ALL.
Reconsider Article 7
Section 33
VOTEYes – 12No – 0
Abstain – 1
Caucus(2 mins.)
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VOTEYes – 13No – 0
Resume Reconsidering Article 7
Section 33
USCWe use the word ‘student’ because
the integrity of SEC is at stake
here.
USCPoint of Inquiry Is
it only until the election day? What is the duration?
USCSuggests subsection e to
read as ‘any political party or candidate to
make defamatory statement/acts to any
student involved in the electoral process such as
thru text messaging, internet and other
technological form that could bring confusion to
the members of the academic community
especially the students as voters’
SINAGCan we change the word
‘to’ into ‘against’?
SENTROLet’s divide the elections
into campaign period, elections day and pre-
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SINAGMotion to have a 5 minute caucus
seconded by SINAG
proclamation
SINAGLet us first adopt the
previous section to avoid contradictions.
USCChange the word
‘technological’ into ‘‘electronic’
SINAGLet us adopt the settled duration in the previous section to clarify until
when will be the extent.
CLACan we delete the word ‘could’ after paragraph a? Let us add another
paragraph.
SENTROThere are many idea that
came out and there is already a confusion. Can
we have a caucus?
Amenable to the committee
CHAIROrganize the
construction of the suggestion.
Cauc Caucus(5 mins.)
VOTEYes – 13No – 0
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USCText messaging can also be used for defamatory
acts.
SINAGCan we delete
‘defamatory acts…students as voters’ then change it to ‘directly or indirectly’ because isn’t it that defamatory acts
can already bring confusion?
SINAGAdd also the word ‘oral’
after ‘such as’
SENTROWe can make it into ‘defamatory/libelous statements’ because
defamatory is oral and libel if it is already
printed.
HFIt is also possible if we
will not specify it.
SENTROThen we can make it into ‘such as but not limited
to the following…’
USCDelete the word
‘candidate’
Amenable to the committee
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PIMotion to adopt Article 7 Section 33 Subsection e
seconded by ALL.
SINAGPoint of Order
Let us vote first.
CLAThe chair said
earlier that after the first
suggestion I can present my suggestion.
CEATDelete also the word ‘online’ because it is understood that if it is electronic it is done
online.
CLAInsert in the provision a subsection b that will read as ‘any student
group mentioned in Art. 2 Sec. 14 of the 2008 USC Constitution to endorse directly or
indirectly any political
CHAIRWhat I mean is
let us adopt first before we
amend.
Adopted Art. 7 Sec. 33
Subsec. e
VOTEYes – 13No – 0
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USCPoint of
ClarificationCan we insert
‘unless allowed by the
organization?
CONSULTANTIt will depend on the by-laws of the
group or organization.
USCThere should be
equality therefore we should not
depend on the by-laws of the
organizations.
CONSULTANTThe question will be, how can you
hold the accountabilities of
those caught?
HFMotion to adopt Article 7 Section 33 Subsection b
party or candidate’.
SENTROProvide another
provision for that. It is already the discretion of
SEC.
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SINAGAsked the
committee if they are amenable to the suggestions.
SENTROCalled for the
previous question and seconded the
motion of HF.
HFCall for the
Previous QuestionThe motion is still
pending.
CONSULTANTYou should settle first
your stand regarding this matter because it is
crucial.
CONSULTANTThe provisions should be
stern.
COMMITTEEWe are
amenable to the suggestions.
AdoptedArt. 7 Sec. 33
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PIIs it only within
the school?
COMMITTEEWe would like to add subsection g that will read as ‘any political
party forming organization,
association, clubs, committees or other
groups of persons for the purpose of soliciting
votes and/or undertaking any campaign or against
a candidate’
COMMITTEEYes because the
elections we are talking about is only happening
within the school.
SENTROIf it is not allowed within the school then include
also outside of the school because the election
code cannot govern the situation if it happens
outside.
SENTROUse ‘to form’.
Subsec. b
VOTEYes – 8
No – 3 (CBA, CLE, COS)Abstain – 2
(COE, SENTRO)
COMMITTEEAdopts the
suggestion of SENTRO.
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CONSULTANTIsn’t it that the
purpose of elections is to
increase turnout votes? If you will
not allow everything, who
will be the ones to vote?
USCPoint of Inquiry
How can we define
organizations that are not
recognized?
USCThe provision is already
fine but let us also include the independent
candidates.
COMMITTEEWe can delete it in Sec.
4.
CONSULTANTIt is alright not to have
this provision because it is already specified in
the previous section that it is not allowed.
SENTROInside the school, it is not allowed for RSO-
CSO. Outside the school, you can tie-up with other
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CBAMotion to divide
the house seconded by
CLA.
organization for help and not for soliciting votes.
USCIt can already be
excluded because SEC cannot determine those
outside the school organizations sine there
are no supporting documents like those we
have inside the university.
s
COMMITTEELet us be strict that it is
really not allowed.
USCAnother subsection to be added that will read as
AdoptedArt. 7 Sec. 33
Subsec. g
VOTEYes – 6No – 4
Abstain – 3 (CLE, USC, SENTRO)
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SINAGDefine ‘political
in nature’ and site examples.
USCIt is the discretion of SEC to define the meaning and it is still open for
revision.
SINAGMy question is not answered.
ADVISERWhat I
understood is we are talking about the prohibition
campaign and not prohibition of
voters’ turnout.
USCIf it will be vague,
we’ll just withdraw the
proposal.
HFThe convention is
not after the voters’ turnout.
Our major concern here is for the elections
to be well.
‘any political party or candidate to conduct
activities that is political in nature outside of this
university.
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ADVISERSite some
examples of political in nature
activities.
SINAGThe proposal has been withdrawn. We should move
on to the next provision.
COMMITTEEIs there already a
guideline?
ADVISERThere is still none
because we are still revising the election code.
ADVISERSEC has the right to develop their
guidelines.
HFReconsider the proposal
of USC to scrap ambiguities. It is a big
help.
ADVISERSEC should develop
guidelines where we can include that because if it will be included here, in the election code, it may lessen voters’ turnout.
COMMITTEE
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USCLet us not forget that right SEC
have.
HFMotion to add subsection h which is the
proposal of USC seconded by SENTRO.
SINAGMotion to adopt Article 7 Section 33 seconded by
the COMMITTEE.
CLAMotion to amend
paragraph b of Article 7 Section
33.
If that’s the case, you will refer to the election
code, then, it is much better to include it now.
SENTROWe could meet halfway
in order for us not to compromise each other.
Motion is Lost
VOTEYes – 5No – 6
Abstain – 2 (CEAT, USC)
AdoptedArt. 7 Sec. 33
VOTEYes – 10
No – 1 (CBA)Abstain – 2
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USCIt is hard for us
because sometimes we have different
votes.
CBAI understand that but as much as possible, we should focus.
HFCall for the
previous question seconded by ALL
CLAIn the second paragraph, add ‘should there be any
provision in the rules/ by-laws of the aforesaid student group that run in contrary with the above
provision shall be considered null and void.
CBATo refrain from
abstaining, I would like the body to focus and
have consensus.
(CEAT, USCE)
Amend Art. 7 Sec. 33
Subsec. b
VOTEYes – 13No – 0
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CHAIRWe will have a
15 minute recess because
the snack is already
prepared. Is it amenable to the
body?
BODYYes.
RECESS10:48 – 11:11
Continuation of the Revision
ProperArt. 7 Sec. 33
Subsec. b
CLEMotion to adopt Article 7 Section 33 Subsection b
seconded by ALL.
AdoptedArt. 7 Sec. 33
Subsec. b
VOTEYes – 13No – 0
Article 7 Section 34Election
Propaganda
USCE
USCQuestion for Subsection
b number 2SEC members are few,
how can that be monitored?
SINAGAsk the SEC if they can.
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It is not realistic because we are
not that numerous.
COMMITTEEGranted for the reason that you are few, but it is
important to have 1 monitor.
USCIt can be together with the approval letter of the dean for room-to-room that shall be read
by the faculty.
CBAPoint of InquiryWho will be in-charge if there is
none coming from SEC?
USCELet us just adopt what the USC is suggesting.
CONSULTANTThe innovation of the attached rules is good
and it is much better if the recommendation from the dean will be
deleted.
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USCThere are
professors who do not allow us if
there is no recommendation coming from the
dean. The professor can also
implement the attached rules.
USCMaybe it is not
‘recommendation’ but ‘approval
letter’.
USCPoint of InquiryWhy should the political parties
need to seek permission from
SEC wherein SEC can pass it to
the college councils?
HFIt is for the
political parties to have their initiative.
CONSULTANTThe professor is already disturbed in his/her class
and still he/she has a work to do? The
presidents can do it.
USCEIs it possible that SEC
will only give the endorsement and will not be going anymore to the
dean’s office?
USC
COMMITTEEThe suggestion is amenable to the committee.
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SINAGCan the
committee explain the step-by-step process?
COMMITTEEIt is SEC’s discretion.
HFSince there is a
letter, the political parties will be the
ones to act.
USCPoint of InquiryWhat if you are
already accredited and there is also
the official list, is it possible that a
candidate or political party will
not be given permission? Let us be reminded
that the screening is already finish and we are in the campaign period.
The different offices does not
also want a disorganize
Can we add independent candidates because not
all candidates have political parties?
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process.
CONSULTANTThe letter will have different
formats. USC has a point.
USCMotion to extend the debate for 15 minutes seconded
by SINAG.
USCIt is given that all of the candidates
and political parties have permission
because it is now in the campaign
period.
HFThe committee is
doing this to lessen the work of the SEC. we have
our DLSU-D letterhead for uniformity.
USCWe are very busy in the campaign but we should consider the
USCERetain the provision
because SEC also has a campaign in promoting
the elections.
CONSULTANTDivide the house.
Extend the Debate
VOTEYes – 12
No – 1 (COE)
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offices. They do not want
disorganize processes. It is not
uniformity; it’s the simplicity of
the process.
CBAMotion to adopt Article 7 Section 34 Subsection b.1
seconded by CLA.
USCMotion to amend
Art 7 Sec. 34 Subsec b.1
seconded by CLA.
USCWe cannot apply our creativity in dealing with the administrators.
ADVISERThere are so many letters to be made. Although we
agree with the suggestion because all
we have to do is sign, it is much of hassles. SEC would be the one to do
it.
AdoptedArt 7 Sec 34 Subsec b.1
VOTEYes – 7No – 3
Abstain – 3
AmendArt. 7 Sec 34 Subsec b.1
VOTEYes – 9No – 2
Abstain – 1 (HF)
*CBA went outside the hall
CHAIRThe 15 minutes
extension of debate has elapsed.
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CONSULTANTWhat would
happen? There is still no consensus unless there will be someone to
motion to reconsider.
USCOur amendment is still not stated and
our motion to amend has been
approved.
CONSULTANTWhat happened is
not an amendment. The substance of the
provision has been changed.
There should be a motion to
reconsider.
CONSULTANTNo. You just
proceed since the vote is
overwhelming in the said motion.
CHAIRSince it is
incorrect, the amendment of
the USC will be scrapped unless it is amenable to the body to consider that
instead of amendment, it will be change into motion to
reconsideration.
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USCMotion to let
USC modify the motion. Or can
we have a caucus?
SINAGPoint of Order
That is a motion
SENTROMotion to have a
recess for 45 minutes seconded
by ALL.
USC Modify their Motion
VOTEYes – 6No – 1
Abstain – 6
Recess
VOTEYes – 13No - 0
Resume Continuation of Article 7 Section 34
CHAIRStarting this moment we
will observe the rules of 2 speakers
excluding the proponent, 20 minutes time frame and 2
minutes will be given each speaker.
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USCWe disapprove
with the decision because there is a tendency for the
revision to be done in a rush
way. We stick to the rules.
USCMotion to
reconsider Art. 7 Sec. 34 Subsec b.1 seconded by
SINAG.
CLAIs Art 7 Section 34 subsection a
USCRemind to call the
attention of the delegates to focus.
CBACan we change our
method of voting into rising?
USCIt is ‘AVCFAS’ not
‘AVCAS’.
CHAIRI just wanted to clarify that it is still the same aside from the
time of the speakers that
will be change into 7 minutes.
CO – CHAIRPoint of OrderThe adoption is
done per section that’s why it is not
only the subsection that
will be reconsidered.
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already been adopted?
COMMITTEEMotion to adopt
Section 34 of Article 7.
USCKindly define
‘rallies’.
COMMITTEEWe did not
change anything in the provision. We retained it. Let us ask SEC.
USCEThose when you
shout your propaganda at the
rotunda.
SENTROEarlier, it is said that it is alright for SEC not to accompany the Student. We are confused. Is it
optional or required?
COMMITTEE
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There is none.
USCMaybe it would
be included in the guidelines of SEC
and not here in the election n
code.
PISometimes there are changes in the
schedules.
CLAPoint of Inquiry
In the first paragraph of Sec 34, what do you mean by ‘rallies’
there?
COMMITTEEIt has been
already answered by SEC.
USCEAdd another subsection
to ensure that the candidates are campaigning.
CONSULTANTPoint of OrderCan you have a
CHAIRIs it amenable to the body?
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ADVISERWhat do you
mean by rallies? Who compose it?
COMMITTEEPolitical parties.
ADVISERHow about assemblies?
USCMotion to
recommit the committee for 3
minutes seconded by PI.
USCWe notice that
some of the
suggestion that the adoption will be per
subsection?
CONSULTANTThen adopt it per
section.
BODYYes.
CHAIROur discussion
will be per subsection.
Recommit the Committee
VOTEYes – 13No – 0
CHAIRI would like to remind you that
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Resume Continuation of Article 7 Section 34
delegates are often going out of the hall. We have house rules and marshals and I
don’t see any of them right now. Unless someone will motion to
suspend the house rules.
COMMITTEEMotion to have a 5 minute caucus
seconded by ALL.
SENTROMotion to extend
the caucus for another 5 minutes
seconded by USC.
we are not in recess or in caucus. You should still
address it to the chair as a
question of privilege.
Caucus
VOTEYes – 11No – 1
Abstain – 1 (COS)
Extend the
Caucus
VOTEYes – 11No – 0
Abstain - 1 (COS)
Resume Continuation of Article 7 Section 34
COMMITTEEMotion to reconsider
subsection g of Article 7 Section 33 seconded by
ALL.
CHAIRState your
reason.
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COMMITTEEIt is because the
confusion we have, started
there.
COMMITTEEMotion to adopt
Art 7 Sec 33 Subsec g
seconded by SINAG.
Reconsider Art 7 Sec 33 Subsec g.
VOTEYes – 12No – 0
Abstain – 1 (CLA)
AdoptArt 7 Sec 33
Subsec g
VOTEYes – 12No – 0
Abstain – 1 (CLE)
Article 7 Section 34
Subsection a
COMMITTEEMotion to adopt Article 7 Section 34 Subsection a
seconded by SINAG.
AdoptArt 7 Sec 34
Subsec a
VOTEYes – 13No – 0
Reconsidering Article 7
Section 34 of Subsection b.1
(Continuing the pending
vote)
SINAGMotion to adopt Article 7 Section 34 of Subsection b.1 seconded by
Reconsider Subsection Art
7 Sec 34 Subsec b.1.
AdoptArt 7 Sec 34 of
Subsec b.1
VOTE
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SINAG. Yes – 13No - 0
Article 7 Section 34 of
Subsection b.2
USCThe college dean
approval is already in
subsection 1.
USCb.1 is already
approved. In b.2, it only means that
the approved letter should
always be bought.
ADVISERPoint of
ClarificationIsn’t it that if you have the letter of approval from the
dean, you will definitely bring it
with you?
USCThere are
instances, from our experience, that the letter is
sometimes left at home.
USCEThe letter is only for the teachers who do not give
way for the
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campaign without a letter from the
dean.
CONSULTANTIf the letter was
left at home, that is negligence. This will only
prolong the debate.
USCEWhat is important here would be the
rules since it is already fine if the
professor will allow the
candidates to do their campaign in
his/her class without the letter.
SENTROThe provision was
made because there are
professors who really do not allow us to
disturb their class for the campaign.
It was also experienced by
the party.
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ADVISERYou are already college students. Once you have read subsection
b.1 you will automatically
bring the letter.
SENTROPermission is abstract while
letter is material.
COEPoint of InquiryWhere will we
put the statement on who will orient
the class presidents duty?
ADVISERRefer to the committee.
COMMITTEEThere would be a
barangay assembly style
meeting to inform the class
presidents. The
USCIt should be ‘aforesaid
permission’.
CHAIRLet us divide the house for the different
opinions.
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question here is what will be the content of the
rules.
USCLet’s give the
decision to SEC.
USCMotion to adopt Article 7 Section 34 Subsection b.2
seconded by SINAG.
Adopt Art 7 Sec 34 Subsec b.1
VOTEYes – 13No - 0
Article 7 Section 34
Subsection b.3
COMMITTEEWe do not have any suggested changes in the
provision.
USCEMaybe it is not a
need anymore because, what if the teachers are the one who are
asking.
SENTROAs much as
possible let’s avoid
discrimination but we cannot deny to the students their
right to information.
USCThe provision is quite
open. Add ‘unless asked by the student’.
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USCMaybe it should not be part of our debate anymore
because the political parties
may use it as their strategy.
SENTROLet us just vote
for this.
CBAMotion to adopt Article 7 Section 34 Subsection b.3
seconded by SINAG.
PIMotion to have a 5 minute caucus
for early adjournment.
COMMITTEEMotion to adopt Article 7 Section 34 seconded by
ALL
SENTROMotion to have a 10 minute caucus for adjournment, laid-on-the-table provisions and
schedule seconded by
ALL.
AdoptArt 7 Sec 34 Subsec b.3
VOTEYes – 12No – 1
AdoptArt 7 Sec 34
VOTEYes – 13No - 0Caucus
VOTEYes – 13No – 0
Adjourned 4:00 pm
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***NOTERIZZA MENDOZA (HF) went out of the convention at 12:00 pm to attend a family event.CHRISTINE GAILE O. PAÑARES went out of the convention at 1:45 pm due to personal reason.
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