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Dr. Jay GreensteinCEO, Sport and Spine CompaniesChair, VCA Insurance Committee
Chair, VCA Public Relations Committee
Goals of Session
• Gain an Understanding of Current Needs
• Gain an Understanding of Current Processes
• Discuss Key Factors in Reaching Out
• Develop Take-Home Strategy to Meet Current Needs
• Overall Do’s and Don’ts
Why do you want to reach out?
What Mechanisms in Your Practice Are Currently In Place to Build MD Relationships?
Benefits of Reaching Out
• Improve the Public’s Health– Access to Potential Patients to Provide Most
Evidenced –Based Solutions
• Improve Practice’s Reputation– MD “Stamp of Approval” – “My PCP sent me here
and said you were the best.”
• Improve Practice’s Financials– More new patients grows the practice.
Step 1: Be Prepared BEFORE You Reach Out
• Do you have the infrastructure needed for increased volume?
• Have you defined your – Practice Style (Wellness, Acute, Rehab?)– Intake Process from HealthCare Providers
• Scheduling• Insurance Logistics• Referral Logistics
– Follow Up Process• Initial and Re-exam narrative process• Referral Logistics
Step 2: Understanding the Needs and Expectations of the MD Community
Step 2: Understanding the Needs and Expectations of the MD Community
• What are MD’s looking for?– Outstanding outcomes AND customer service
– Communication: Written and Oral
– Discharges
• Is this congruent with your practice mission?
• Can you and your staff meet those needs?– If not, what are the competency gaps that exist and
how do you “Close the Gap”?
• HOT – Current Referral Sources – what are you doing to maintain the relationship?
• WARM – MD’s of Current Patients not currently sending – what are you going to do to in order to initiate building a referral relationship?
• COLD – The MD’s office next door who you don’t have any patients with but would like to establish a relationship – how are you going to cold call?
Step 3: Hot, Warm and Cold Leads
HOT
HOT
• How are you maintaining and growing this relationship?– Clinical communication?
• Narratives• Clinical Power Point Presentations• MD Flash Presentations developed by the VCA PR
Committee
– Relationship building?• Lunch and Dinner Meetings• Social Networking• Social / Charitable Events
HOT
• Pay Attention to Your HOT Referral Sources!
WARM
WARM
• How are you developing this relationship?– Clinical communication?
• Narratives
• Clinical Power Point Presentations
• MD Flash Presentations developed by the VCA PR Committee
– Relationship building?• Lunch and Dinner Meetings
• Social Networking
• Social / Charitable Events
WARM
• Step 3a: – Mine your patient data and find patients’ MD
information
– Send narratives (Initial, Re-exam, Final)
– Follow up with phone call to ensure receipt
– Ask for a lunch meeting or even 10 minutes of time to discuss clinical cooperation• What are your differentiating factors?
• How can you help his/her patient population?
Differentiating Factors?
• Top 3?
– 1.
– 2.
– 3.
COLD
COLD
• Step 3a: – Send practice brochure– Follow up with phone call to ensure receipt
OR – Walk in and…
– Ask for a lunch meeting or even 10 minutes of time to discuss clinical cooperation• What are your differentiating factors?• How can you help his/her patient population?
Final Steps: Action Algorithm - Warm
Doctors’ Response to Request for Meeting
Thanks the MD for their time and hang up
Utilize VCA Flash Presentation or Prepare New Presentation
Wait for Next Patient and Send Narrative and Try Again
When Discharge for current patients occur, send final report;
Send MD Flash Presentation Ask Patient to discuss outcomes with MD
Send all Re-exam Reports Be Prepared for MD Common Questions
Be Prepared to Ask Your Questions to MD
Be Prepared and bring along appropriate marketing materials so he can give your
information to his patients
NO YES
Final Steps: Action Algorithm - Cold
Doctors’ Response to Request for Meeting
Thanks the MD for their time and hang up or leave office
Utilize VCA Flash Presentation or Prepare New Presentation
Send Note Thanking MD or Office Staff for their time and send flash of MD Presentation or pertinent clinical literature
Be Prepared for MD Common Questions
Be Prepared to Ask Your Questions to MD
Be Prepared and bring along appropriate marketing materials so he can give your
information to his patients
NO YES
Act quickly if you get a referral(Send Narrative, Thank You
Note etc.)
At the Event
Common MD Questions
• How do you treat “X”?– Answer Hints: Needs to be evidenced-based.
• Do you manipulate the cervical spine?– Answer Hints: Most likely concerned about CVA’s; Utilize J. David
Cassidy’s publications/testimony
• What insurance’s do you take?– Answer Hints: Also find out what they take to make sure it’s
congruent. Explain how you handle carriers you are not a provider for.
• How long do you treat patients for?– Answer Hints: Concerned about lifetime care
• How soon can you get patients in to see you?– Answer Hints: Concerned about long wait times to get into PT/Ortho
practices. Ensure your infrastructure is set up to get patients in quickly
Valuable Questions for MD’s
• What % of your practice is currently NMS?– Answer Hints: If it’s above “0”, you have opportunity.
• What is your typical referral pattern of NMS patients?– Answer Hints: Most likely it’s not to you, but be sure not to
respond negatively to their existing pattern
• Are there any patients that don’t respond that you would consider sending to me based on the fact that _______________ (differentiating factors)?– Answer Hints: Assuming they say yes, find out who the key
person is who actually writes the referral.
Tracking mechanism
• How are you tracking your referrals?
• How are you tracking when and if your reports have been sent?
• How are you tracking whether or not an “event/interaction” has been effective?
Competition?
• Other DC’s?
• PT’s?
• MD’s?
– X-factor
DC’s
• Challenge: Many DC’s are marketing to the same population of MD’s
• Solutions:– There are plenty of patients to
go around– DC styles (like MD’s) are
different and MD’s can find multiple DC’s to refer to based on patient needs
– Always find ways to help your colleagues if you can!
PT’s
• Challenge: Part of the typical medical model referral pattern
• Solution:– Utilize differentiating
factors related to your individual practice and expertise
MD’s• Challenge: PCP to Ortho is a very common referral pattern• Solutions:
– Build relationships with local Ortho’s– Explain how you may be able to save the patient a step unless
it’s a surgical candidate
MD’s – X Factor
• Challenge: PCP have been trained to medicate
• Solutions:– Communicate that you can have an
impact even during the “early medication phase”
– Use the clinical literature to discuss how Chiropractic outcomes can be both cost effective and efficacious clinically
– Explain how you may be able to prevent chronicity because you address function, not just symptoms.
Overall Do’s
• Always Keep Trying to Build Relationships
• Give GREAT clinical care that is evidenced-driven
• Document!!!
• Communicate regularly with Physicians
• Know your stuff!
• Enlist patients to communicate their satisfaction with you back to their MD’s.
Overall Don’ts
• Don’t criticize existing referral patterns or MD practice processes
• Don’t criticize other providers of any type
• Don’t drop the ball on your communication with your MD’s
• Don’t use Chiro-centric lingo• Don’t ever quit trying to build
relationships so you can help more people!
Questions?