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Part of the MONIER GROUP
Eco ICIDTwin Wall Insulated System Chimneydesigned for Stove Applications
Eco ICID LIT DOC/CP3/63 Issue 3 Jul 2012
NEW!
Diameters125-200mm
Now available inBlack Painted and
Stainless Steel Options
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Product DescriptionEco ICID is a Twin Wall Insulated System Chimney designed specifically for use on open or closed stoves with continuous operating temperatures of up to 450°C.
The system is designed so that the outer case is load bearing and the inner liner is free to expand independently, therefore thermal expansion is accommodated within each and every joint of the system.
Available in two versions with a choice of either a bright annealed or a matt black painted stainless steel outer case, Eco ICID is available in the following range of diameters:- 125, 150, 180 and 200mm.
Joint Design
• Manufactured under a Quality Management Scheme approved to BS EN ISO 9001: 2008• 4 Hour Fire Rating to BS476 Part 20• Certified for corrosion resistance on gas, oil and solid fuel by Gastec, MPA and TÜV• HETAS listed for use on solid fuel applications.
Eco ICID is CE Certified to EN1856-1 TÜV 0036 CPD 9195 010 with designations:
Approvals
Twist-lock bayonet jointing system. Secured by locking band.
Advanced corrosion resistant design and construction uses laser welded 316L stainless steel inner liner and stainless steel case.
The 25mm of high density rockwool insulation maintains flue gas temperature, maximising efficiency, improving flue draught on start up and minimising condensation.
Low external case temperature.
The inner liner is free to expand through the female collar, allowing for maximum thermal expansion even during a soot fire.
The inner liner has an inward bead at the female end which acts as a capillary break preventing moisture being drawn through the joint.
High Temperature Applications
T450 N1 W V2 L50050 G60T450 N1 D V3 L50050 G60
60mm Distance to combustiblesin a combustible shaft*
T450 N1 W V2 L50050 G50T450 N1 D V3 L50050 G50
50mm Distance to combustiblesin a non combustible shaft or in free air*
FuelFiring TempShort Firing TempThermal ShockMode of OperationPressure CapabilitiesFire RatingOuter Case (Standard)Outer Case (Option)Outer Case ThicknessSeamLinerLiner Thickness (mm)SeamInsulationInsulation ThicknessAverage ThermalResistance (200°C)
Wood, solid fuel450° C550° C1000° CZero & negative pressure40Pa4 Hour Fire Rating to BS 476 Part 20Stainless SteelPainted matt black0.5mmLaser or inert gas welded316L : 1.4404 : X2CrNiMo 17-12-20.5mmLaser or inert gas weldedHigh performance mineral fibre25mm0.4m2 k/W
Tecnical Data
The chimney size should be as recommended by the appliance manufacturer. Where there is a requirement for a flue diameter smaller than the appliance spigot, then the operational requirements of the appliance and the configuration of the flue must satisfy the flue sizing requirements of EN13384-1 for single appliances, and EN13384-2 for multi appliances.
CHIMNEY DIAMETER
CORROSION RESISTANCEChimneys are subject to significant corrosion attack by flue gas condensates, particularly from solid fuel. Eco ICID is specifically designed and manufactured to resist this corrosion.
*For full information refer to p.10 and p.11
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Typical Installations
INTERNAL HOUSECombustible Floors
INTERNAL BUNGALOW(VENTILATED LOFT SPACE)Combustible and Non-Combustible floors
INTERNAL HOUSENon Combustible Floors
EXTERNALSystem Chimney
Raincap (without mesh)DN8A142
Angled Flashing95510
Roof Support94640
Ventilated Firestop Plate94250
Ventilated Support PlateCombustible floor95260
Ventilated Firestop PlateCombustible floor Plate9423B
Stove Starter PipeDN8A149
Prima Smooth Connecting Flue Pipe
Combustible shaft
Protective wire mesh(required in loft space)
Taper TerminalDN8A038
Storm Collar95560
Uni-flash94540
Roof Support94640
Firestop Plate94250
Support PlateNon combustible floor95680
Firestop PlateNon combustible floor94670
Adjustable PipeDN8A009
Anchor PlateDN8A0D6
Non combustible shaft
Protective wire mesh(required in loft space)
Taper TerminalDNB8A038
Structural Wall Band9543B0
Structural Wall Band9543B0
Structural Wall Band Extension9544B0004
45˚ BendDNB8A017
Adjustable Top PlateDNB8A0D3
Cantilever Support9542B0001
135˚ TeeDNB8A137
Mitred Wall Sleeve 45˚94910
Raincap (with sparkguard)DN8A140
Angled Flashing95510
Roof Support94640
Stove Starter PipeDNB8A152
Prima Smooth Connecting Flue Pipe
Protective wire mesh(required in loft space)
Round BungalowFirestop Kit (unventilated)
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DimensionsThe dimensions of the flue are:
Product Ordering
To identify fully the component required it is necessary to state the product code followed by diameter as follows.• Quote the product code followed by the internal diameter. Eg. for a Ø 150mm 45° bend the code will be DN8A17150.• Codes starting with a number 9 are universal accessories common to a number of Schiedel Rite-Vent ranges and therefore require definition of the external diameter. eg, to specify a wall band 50mm to suit a 150mm Int Ø system, the external diameter is 200mm therefore the full code is 92940200.
FinishPaint - Eco ICID can be supplied painted in any RAL colour (additional costs apply)
(all article codes are for plain stainless steel version, for black painted codes refer to product ordering paragraph above)
Starting Components
A
A
Int Ø
B
C
A
Int Ø
3530
100
Int Ø
127
Int Ø
Int Ø mmExt Ø mm
125180
150200
180235
200256
Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200
Appliance Connector (Open) Appliance Connector (Closed)
DN8A047DN8A144
Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200
Adaptor Prima Plus to Eco ICIDAdaptor Prima Smooth to Eco ICID
S027PS027
PLAIN STAINLESS STEEL ITEMS
• On product codes commencing DN add the letter B immediately after DN e.g Ø150 Black painted 45° Bend the code will be DNB8A17150.• On Universal accessory codes the letter B is added immediately after the first 4 digits e.g on a wall band to suit a diameter Ø150 pipe, the code will be 9294B0200 and on a 475mm cantilever support the full code will be 9542B0002.
BLACK PAINTED ITEMS
Int Ø mmABC
125989849
15012311352
18014811352
20017811352
Insulated Increasing Adaptor DN8A136
Int Ø mmA
12598
150123
180148
200178
Uninsulated Increasing Adaptor DN8A143
42
C Ø
A
B
Int Ø mmABC
125300280123
150320300148
180355335178
200375356198
Anchor Plate DN8A0D6
Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200
Adaptor Eco ICID to Prima PlusAdaptor Eco ICID to TecnoFlex
DN21133DN8A079
DN21133 A = 100DN8A079 A = 90
5
A Ø
473
50
A Ø
1073
50A Ø
1018
50
Pipes
Ext Ø
108
Tees
Length 1 Length 2 Part Code1500mm 1460mm DN8A1281000mm 960mm DN8A001500mm 460mm DN8A002300mm 293mm DN8A003200mm 160mm DN8A004
Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200
Pipe
Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200
Telescopic Pipe 215-310mm350-570mm
2 Piece - DN8A151 2 Piece - DN8A150
Int Ø mmAB
125246127
150329162
180354175
200394195
90˚ Tee including Tee Cap DN8A135
Int Ø mmABC
125336259259
150365283283
180414326326
200444351351
135˚ Tee including Tee Cap DN8A137
Tee Plug with Drain DN8A138
Int Ø mmA
12575
15077
18073
20078A
Int Ø
AB
C
Int Ø
A
B
B
Stove Starter Pipe 1073mm Eff.Stove Starter Pipe 473mm Eff.
DN8A152DN8A149
Int Ø mmA
125123
150148
180N/A
200N/A
Int Ø mmA
125N/A
150123
180N/A
200N/A
Increasing Stove Starter Pipe DN8A153
Int Ø mmA
125150
150200
180235
200256
Structural Locking Band DN8A092
L1
L2
Supplied as standard with all components with a female collar
Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200
Locking Band DN8A083
Int Ø
A
B
C
D
Int Ø mmABCD
12546095260230
15046095260230
18046095260230
20046095260230
Inspection Length DN8A011
Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200
Adjustable Pipe 50-230mm 1 Piece - DN8A009
Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200
Draught Stabiliser Section DN8A026
Eff. A
djus
tmen
t
Eff. A
djus
tmen
t
6
Int Ø mmAB
125389310
150425334
180497376
200532402
Offsets for 135˚ Tee and 45˚ Bend
B
A
B
A
Effe
ctive
Pip
e
B
A
Effec
tive P
ipe
B
Effe
ctive
Pip
eA
Int Ø mm1460 Eff. APipe B960 Eff. APipe B460 Eff. APipe B293 Eff. APipe B160 Eff. APipe B
1251623406114027665714749510436769
1501625406114227765914749710436970
1801628407114627766314850110537370
2001634407115127866814950710537971
15˚ Bend offset with Standard Pipe Length
Int Ø mm1460 Eff. APipe B960 Eff. APipe B460 Eff. APipe B293 Eff. APipe B160 Eff. APipe B
12512871138933784580431462313367218
15013001143947790593436475318381224
18013281151974801621448503330408235
20013411160988807634453516335422241
45˚ Bend offset with Standard Pipe Length
Int Ø mm1460 Eff. APipe B960 Eff. APipe B460 Eff. APipe B293 Eff. APipe B160 Eff. APipe B
12514947921061542628292483208368142
15015097961076546643296498212383146
18015207991087549654299509215394149
20015358031102553669303524219409153
30˚ Bend offset with Standard Pipe Length
Int Ø mmAB
1256355
1506356
1806356
2006457
15˚ Bend DN8A018
Int Ø mmAB
1257970
1508374
1809182
2009586
45˚ Bend DN8A017
Int Ø mmAB
125184139
150194149
180209164
200219174
90˚ Inspection Bend DN8A0A2
Int Ø mmAB
1256657
1507061
1807364
2007768
30˚ Bend DN8A019
Int Ø mmAB
125146137
150156147
180174165
200184175
90˚ Bend DN8A015
Bends
A
B
A
B
A
B
A
B
A
B
Typical Offsets
7
Int Ø mmAB
12523231
15023431
18023431
20023831
Offsets for 15˚ Bend
Int Ø mmAB
125254105
150268111
180295122
200309128
Offsets for 45˚ Bend
Int Ø mmAB
12523062
15024466
18025669
20027173
Offsets for 30˚ Bend
A
B
A
B
A
B
Offsets (made by assembling two bends)
Firestop Components
B
A
B
B
A
A
A
AB
BC
BC
A
A
Round Ventilated Firestop Plates(Combustible Floor)
1 Piece - 9423*2 Piece - 9424*
Int Ø mmExt Ø mm AB
125180183380
150200203400
180235241430
200256259450
* Codes and Finish OptionsPlain Galvanised Steel 9423P0 + Ext ØBlack Ral 9005 Matt 9423B0 + Ext ØWhite Ral 9016 Matt 9423W0 + Ext Ø
Ventilated Support Plate Rectangular VentilatedFirestop Plate(Combustible Floor)
2 Piece - 952602 Piece - 94250
Int Ø mmExt Ø mmABC
125180183380190
150200203400200
180235241430215
200256259450225
Firestop Plate(Non-Combustible Floor)
94670
Int Ø mmExt Ø mm AB
125180450280
150200450300
180235450338
200256610356
Support Plate(Non-Combustible Floor)
95680
Int Ø mmExt Ø mmAB
125180330280
150200350300
180235388338
200256406356
Bungalow Firestop KitsBungalowRound Firestop Plate(Unventilated)
1 Piece - 9428*2 Piece - 9429*
Int Ø mmExt Ø mmAB
125180183380
150200203400
180235241430
200256259450
* Codes and Finish OptionsPlain Galvanised Steel 9428P0 + Ext ØBlack Ral 9005 Matt 9428B0 + Ext ØWhite Ral 9016 Matt 9428W0 + Ext Ø
BungalowSquare Firestop Plate(Unventilated)
1 Piece - 9430*
Int Ø mmExt Ø mmAB
125180183380
150200203400
180235241430
200256259450
* Codes and Finish OptionsPlain Galvanised Steel 9430P0 + Ext ØBlack Ral 9005 Matt 9430B0 + Ext ØWhite Ral 9016 Matt 9430W0 + Ext Ø
B
B
A
A
B
A
These unventilated fire stop plates may only be used on a combustible ceiling in a bungalow where there is a minimum 60mm distance to combustibles where the chimney penetrates the ceiling area and where the roof space above the ceiling is open and ventilated. Within the roof space, a protective wire mesh framework must be built around the chimney to ensure the minimum 60mm distance to combustibles is maintained.
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Cantilever Support Type 570 - 95420003
TypeØ RangeAB
570125-200
570330
BD C
E
A
Support Components
Int Ø mmABCDE
125276280240160140
150296300260180150
180334335298210168
200352356316230178
Top Plate DN8A0D3
Int Ø mmBCDE
125275160470100
150295180470100
180325210470100
200345230470100
Wall Support Side Plates DN8A0D2
B
D
C
E
B
A
Int Ø mmExt Ø mm AB
125180180140
150200200150
180235238168
200256256178
Wall Band (50mm) 92940
Int Ø mmExt Ø mmAB
12518015055
15020017055
18023520055
20025622055
Structural Wall Band (50mm) 95430
Adjustable Back Bracketfor Wall Band 60-300mm
95950
Int Ø mmExt Ø mmA
125180112
150200132
180235162
200256186
Structural Wall Band Extension
W1 - 95440001L1 - 95440004L2 - 95440005
TypeAdjABC
W155-100
13036-
L1100-250
300-
32
L2100-440
450-
32
50
BA A
B
A
B
A
Cantilever SupportType 325 - 95420001Type 475 - 95420002
TypeØ RangeAB
325125-150
325242
475125-200
475242
Type W1
Types L1, L2
B
C
A
A
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Support Components
Mitred Wall Sleeve 45˚ 94910
Int Ø mmExt Ø mmA
125180300
150200320
180235358
200256376
Supplied as a 1m long mitred tube to be cut to length on site
Wall Sleeve 90˚ 94810
Int Ø mmExt Ø mmA
125180300
150200320
180235358
200256376A
A
BA
BD
A C
330
330
Int Ø mmExt Ø mm
125180
150200
180235
200256
Roof Support 94640
Int Ø mmExt Ø mm
125180
150200
180235
200256
Guy Wire Bracket 95900
1 Piece Trim Collar 90˚ 9580*
Int Ø mmExt Ø mm AB
125180184330
150200204350
180235242388
200256260406
* Codes and Finish OptionsPlain BA Stainless Steel 9580P0 + Ext Ø Black Painted RAL 9005 Matt 9580B0 + Ext Ø
Int Ø mmExt Ø mm ABCD
125180184259330454
150200204287350483
180235242341388536
200256260366406562
1 Piece Trim Collar 45˚ 9589*
* Codes and Finish OptionsPlain BA Stainless Steel 9589P0 + Ext ØBlack Painted RAL 9005 Matt 9589B0 + Ext Ø
10
A A
Uniflash
CodeExt Ø (mm)A
9454000180-200
500
94540002150-300
685
94540003250-450
800Universal EPDM rubber/aluminium flashing. Just pull the required diameter tab on the rubber seal
Flashings
Terminals
Distance to Combustibles (see p.11)
Angled flashing Kit 5˚- 45˚ 95510
Int Ø mmExt Ø mmA
125180610
150200700
180235700
200256800
Flat Flashing Kit 95530
Int Ø mmExt Ø mmA
125180610
150200610
180235610
200256610
150
A A
50
AA
150
Raincap
with 10mm sparkguard DN8A145 with 25mm anti-bird mesh DN8A140
without mesh DN8A142
Int Ø mmAB
12526690
15026690
180362217
200362220
A
A
B
60mm
60mm
INTERNAL HOUSECombustible Floors
Fig 1 Fig 2
60mm
INTERNAL BUNGALOW(VENTILATED LOFT SPACE)Combustible and Non-Combustible floors
Int Ø mmExt Ø mm
125180
150200
180235
200256
Storm Collar 95560
Int Ø mmA
125200
150200
180204
200240
Insulated Tapered Terminal DN8A038
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InstallationThese notes should be read in conjunction with the detailed Eco ICID Installation Instructions.
MANDATORY REQUIREMENTSConnection to an appliance that is connected to the fuel supply must be carried out by a GAS SAFE (gas) or OFTEC (oil) registered installer. We recommend the use of HETAS approved installers for solid fuel applications. For full design and installation details the key referral documents are:
• BS EN 1856-1: Chimneys - System Chimney Products• BS EN 1859: Metal Chimneys - Testing Methods• BS EN 1443: Chimneys - General Requirements• BS EN 15287-1: Chimneys. Design, installation and commissioning of chimneys. Chimneys for non-roomsealed heating appliances.• BS 5440-1: Fluing and ventilation for gas appliances of rated input not exceeding 70kW net (1st, 2nd and 3rd family gases). Specification for installation of gas appliances to chimneys and for maintenance of chimneys.• Approved Document J: - Combustion appliances and fuel storage systems (England & Wales)• DFP Technical Booklet L: - Combustion appliances and fuel storage systems (NI)• Technical Handbook (Domestic & Non Domestic),Section 3 - Environment (Scotland)• Appliance Installation Instructions and related standards. Other standards covering specific applications will also be relevant and must be adhered to.
Planning permission may be required, and reference should be made to the local Building Control Department.
JOINTING SYSTEMAll joints in the Eco ICID chimney range, which require a locking band, are made by means of a simple twist lock jointing method. This is achieved by pushing together the male and female collars on each end of the main chimney components and twisting the components through 1/6 of a turn to lock the collars into place.It should be noted that the female collars on elbows and tees are not fluted in order to allow for these items to be positioned according to requirements on site. In all cases the joints should be held securely in place using the locking band, which is supplied with all components with a female collar.
Joints are not permitted within wall and ceiling spaces. Any flue pipe (i.e. single wall) connection to the chimney must be made in the same room as the appliance. The chimney must project at least 425mm below the ceiling. Where a chimney passes through a wall, a wall sleeve must be used to prevent damage to the chimney and the building.
CONNECTION TO APPLIANCEUse the appropriate appliance connector, sealing with fire rope and fire cement or high temperature sealant on solid fuel. The length of the inner liner can be trimmed where required to allow for thermal expansion within the appliance outlet spigot.
APPLIANCE REMOVALUse of an adjustable length immediately above the appliance enables removal of the appliance later without dismantling the full system.
INSPECTIONTo conform to Building Regulations, provisions should be made to enable a chimney to be inspected and cleaned. An inspection length or an insulated 90˚ or 135˚ Tee can form a suitable inspection point. To aid cleaning, sufficient distance should be left between changes of direction to permit the safe passage of cleaning brushes within the system. This is particularly important on solid fuel applications. It is recommended that chimneys serving solid fuel appliances be swept as frequently as necessary, but at least twice a year.
CHIMNEY DIAMETERThe chimney size should be as recommended by the appliance manufacturer and must satisfy the flue sizing requirements of EN13384-1 for single appliances, and EN13384-2 for multi appliances.
CHIMNEY ROUTEThe chimney should remain as straight as possible through its vertical run to assist flow. Should it be necessary to offset a chimney run then the following guidelines should be adhered to:It is recommended that a vertical run of at least 600mm should be allowed immediately above the appliance prior to any change of direction. Within a system, on all fuels, there should be no more than 4 changes of direction of maximum 45˚. 90˚ Factory made bends or tees within the system may be treated as being equal to two 45˚ bends (as per Document J of the Building Regulations issued October 2010)
ENCLOSURE/SHAFTSWith the exception of the room containing the appliance, where the chimney passes through any part of the building, where there is a risk of accidental human contact, i.e a bedroom etc., or where there is a risk of contact with combustible materials stored in a cupboard or in the roof-space, the chimney must be enclosed in an appropriate way to meet Building Regulations. This can be achieved by boxing in the chimney in habitable rooms, or by the use of a protective wire mesh frame in roof spaces etc. In all cases the minimum distance to any combustible material, including loft insulation, must be respected according to the table on p.2, and any enclosure should be ventilated using the appropriate ventilated fire stops (see p.7).
DISTANCE TO COMBUSTIBLES In accordance with building regulations its is essential that the correct distance to combustible material is maintained. On solid fuel applications, where there is a risk of soot fire, a distance of 60mm to combustibles must be maintained within a combustible floor and within a combustible shaft (see Fig.1 p.10). There is no need to line the area within the floor cavity with plasterboard; however the ventilated fire stop plate and ventilated support plate must be used.*
On gas and oil applications, a distance of 50mm to combustiblesmust be maintained within a combustible floor and within acombustible shaft. The ventilated fire stop plate and ventilatedsupport plate must be used.*
Where the chimney penetrates a non combustible floor and where a non combustible shaft is used, a distance of 50mm to the shaft is sufficient. In this case, non ventilated fire stops and non ventilated support plates may be used at first floor level with a ventilated fire stop being used where the chimney penetrates into the roof space.*
*On bungalow applications where the chimney runs through either a combustible or non-combustible ceiling, an unventilated bungalow fire stop plate kit can be used. Please note that an unventilated support plate can not be used above the ceiling in this case. The weight of the chimney should be supported using the roof support (see p.9). Distance to combustibles must be respected within the ceiling space (see Fig. 2 p.10) and mesh frame should be used within the loft space, which must be ventilated (see Fig. 2 p.10).
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Schiedel Chimney SystemsCrowther EstateWashingtonTyne & Wear NE38 0AQTel. +44 (0)191 416 1150Fax. +44 (0)191 415 [email protected]
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