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EWE – 3nd Project Meeting Roccalumera – Messina, Italy 21th–25th May 2014

EWE – 3nd Project Meeting Roccalumera – Messina, Italy 21th–25th May 2014

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2. Is there any difference between hiring a 50+ man or woman? YES! 50+ woman's salary is lower bad tradition, historical causes, gender rules not because of age but gender YES! 50+ woman's salary is lower bad tradition, historical causes, gender rules not because of age but gender Trainers Trainees Employers YES! 50+ woman's salary is lower bad tradition, historical causes, gender rules not because of age but gender

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Page 1: EWE – 3nd Project Meeting Roccalumera – Messina, Italy 21th–25th May 2014

EWE – 3nd Project Meeting Roccalumera – Messina, Italy

21th–25th May 2014

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1. Is the age of people applying for work a significant factor? How do you approach this?

• YES!• ageism• advantages and

disadvantages• experience

• YES!• ageism • advantages and

disadvantages (50+ good in counselling, training, organization development)

• experience is up on age

• hidden contract: entrant salary is lower

Trainers Trainees Employers• no/yes• professional level• experience

important• availability

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2. Is there any difference betweenhiring a 50+ man or woman?

• YES!• 50+ woman's

salary is lower• bad tradition,

historical causes, gender rules

• not because of age but gender

• YES!• 50+ woman's

salary is lower• bad tradition,

historical causes, gender rules

• not because of age but gender

Trainers Trainees Employers• YES!• 50+ woman's

salary is lower• bad tradition,

historical causes, gender rules

• not because of age but gender

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3. Which are the main reasonswhy 50+ women work or not?

• local, economical possibilities (have job or not)

• work:– need money– professional

experience & practice

• not:– no need money – health status – care about family is

enough

• loctal, economical possibilities (have job or not)

• work:• need money• energy, something to

live, well-being, utility

• being in community • profession, call

• not:• no need money• family don'l let• care about family is

enough

Trainers Trainees Employers• loctal, economical

possibilities (have job or not)

• work:• need money• professional

experience & practice

• not:• no need money• health status

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4. What should be changed in the labour market to encourage 50+ women to work?

• better training (academic + practical)

• changing: approach of employers, HRs

• problem in HR, CV: date of birth, date of degree etc.

• respect and use experiences!

• change minds of emloyers, HRs

• change social though: 50+ woman (and man) not old!

Trainers Trainees Employers• no/yes• better training

(academic + practical)

• changing: approach of employers

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5. What kind of jobs do 50+women find attractive?

• up on character, individual (not on age or gender)

• use experience, transmit experience

• up on character, individual (not on age or gender)

• use experience, transmit experience

• just like 50+ men except positions with authority (not so important)

Trainers Trainees Employers• better training

(academic + practical)

• changing: approach of employers

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6. Which kind of competences do 50+ women have? What do they need?

• HAVE: cooperation, loyality, experience (professional and human), insight into character, organizing ability, endurance, workloading

• NEED: flexibility, open-minded to new knowledge, ICT skills, language skills

• HAVE: tolerance, cooperation, loyality, experience (professional and human), insight into character, organizing ability, persistent concentration, effort good result, endurance, workloading

• NEED: flexibility, open-minded to new knowledge, ICT skills

Trainers Trainees Employers• HAVE: sedulity,

sense of responsinility, loyality, workloading

• NEED: ICT skills (social media), creativity, language skills, open-minded to new knowledge, process, system etc., less resistance

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7. What are 50+ women's ideas about working?

• meaningful, reasonable, responsible, max. 8 hs/d, enough salary, good workplace community, regard

• just for money (living), neccessary liability

• meaningful, reasonable, responsible, max. 8 hours/day, enough salary, good workplace community, regard

• danger: calling (to profession) is decreasing, job is just for money (living)

Trainers Trainees Employers• self-realization,

joyfull activity• just for money

(living), pain in the neck, liability

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8. What are the factors that provide50+ women with job satisfaction?

• meaningful, reasonable, responsible, max. 8 hs/d, enough salary, good workplace community, regard

• just for money (living), neccessary liability

• meaningful, reasonable, responsible, max. 8 hours/day, enough salary, good workplace community, regard

• danger: calling (to profession) is decreasing, job is just for money (living)

Trainers Trainees Employers• regard (not just

money)• 8 hours/day, low

stress, nice work environment, professional job, accept possibility age-associated troubles

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9. Do you know any approach in vocational education for 50+ women that you would use or recommend?

• Yes!• basic skills:

ICT, language

• don't know (majority)

• ICT training

Trainers Trainees Employers• No!

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10. Are there any special difficulties for 50+ women’s vocational education? If yes, what are they?

• hard to change professional

• hard to learn brand new thinks

• nothing special• flexibility to

learning, important of motivation

• ICT learning, language study from basics

Trainers Trainees Employers• hard to change

professional

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Tivadar Csontváry Kosztka (1853-1919):Ruins of the Ancient Greek Theatre at Taormina, 1904-06

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Salvatore Quasimodo Memorial Award (1992-)Balatonfüred, Hungary