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First Draft Meeting of the Correlating Committee on Fire and Emergency Services

Protective Clothing and Equipment December 13th, 2016

Adobe Connect/Teleconference Agenda

Introduction: Bill Haskell, Chair – 11:00 a.m.

Introductions by Members and Guests

Chairman’s Remarks – Bill Haskell

NFPA Staff Liaison Report – Chris Farrell

Approval of Minutes from the previous meeting (will be available shortly)

Task Group Updates (as appropriate)

Definitions Task Group – Karen Lehtonen

Labeling Task Group – Karen Lehtonen

Firefighter Hazard Environment Task Group – Dan Rossos

Hood Safety Alert Task Group – Bruce Varner

Eye and Face Protection Task Group – Robert Tutterow

ISO Update – Dave Matthews

Chapter 5 User Information Format – Steve Corrado

NFPA 1852, 1989 First Draft Review

Technical Committee Chair Reports

o TC on ELS: R. Athanas

o TC on EMS: T. Hock

o TC on HAZ: C. Baxter

o TC on RPE: D. Rossos

o TC on SCE: J. Metz

o TC on SPF: S. King

o TC on TTO: B. Montgomery

o TC on WFF: R Swan

Old Business

New Business

Next Correlating Committee Meeting, dates and location

Adjourn

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MINUTES OF THE MEETING

NFPA CORRELATING COMMITTEE ON FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES

PROTECTIVE CLOTHING AND EQUIPMENT

1801, 1951, 1971, 1999, 1992, 1994 SECOND DRAFT MEETING

SAN DIEGO, CA NOVEMBER 2-3, 2016

2 November 2016 Agenda Items 1, 2 and 3: Call to Order, Roll Call of Members and Guests, Chairman’s Remarks Correlating Committee Chairman Bill Haskell called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m. and a roll call of members was conducted. Guests were asked to identify themselves. The following members and guests were present: Principal Members, Alternates (A), and Non-voting (NV) members present:

Bill Haskell, Chairman NIOSH-NPPTL Ben Mauti, Acting Secretary MSA Safety / Compressed Gas Association Chris Farrell, Staff Liaison NFPA Jason Allen Intertek Testing Services Joseph Arrington San Antonio Fire Department Dr. Roger Barker North Carolina State University James Brinkley International Association of Firefighters Steve Corrado UL LLC Cristine Fargo International Safety Equipment Association Robert Freese Globe Manufacturing Company Tim Gardner (A) 3M Company Dave Haston USDA-Forest Service Tricia Hock (NV TC on Emergency Medical Services PC&E Diane Hess PBI Performance Products, Inc. Stephen King (NV) (teleconference) TC on Structural and Proximity Fire PC&E Karen Lehtonen Lion Apparel, Inc. David Matthews (teleconference) Fire & Industrial (P.P.E.) Ltd. Judge Morgan (A) TYCO / Scott Safety Michael McKenna Michael McKenna & Associates, LLC Jeremy Metz (NV) TC on Special Operations PC&E Brian Montgomery (NV) TC on Tactical and Technical Operations RPE John Morris TYCO / Scott Safety Anthony Petrilli (A) USDA-Forest Service Dan Rossos (NV) TC on Respiratory Protective Equipment Russell Shephard (A) Australasian Fire & Emergency Service Authorities

Council David Stoddard (A) Michael McKenna & Associates, LLC Jeffrey Stull International Personal Protection, Inc. Rick Swan (NV) TC on Wildland Fire Fighting PC&E Tim Tomlinson Addison Fire Department, Gear Cleaning Solutions Robert Tutterow Fire Industry Education Research Organization

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William Van Lent Veridian Ltd. Inc. / FEMSA Bruce Varner BH Varner & Associates Steven Weinstein Honeywell Safety Products Dick Weise County of Los Angeles Fire Department Harry Winer HIP Consulting, LLC Jian Xiang (A) The DuPont Company, Inc.

Guests Present:

David Bernzweig Ohio Association of Professional Firefighters Matthew Decker W.L. Gore & Associates, Inc. David Eskew Milliken & Company Tess Harvey Michael McKenna & Associates, LLC Beth Lancaster CTTSO Mike Salvato Stedfast Marni Schmid Fortunes Collide Marketing Mark Williams W.L. Gore & Associates, Inc.

Chairman Haskell welcomed the committee and provided opening remarks.

Agenda Item 4: Approval of the July 7, 2016 Teleconference CC Meeting The Minutes of the CC meeting held on July 7 were approved without changes by unanimous consent.

To approve the JULY 7, 2016 Teleconference CC Meeting Minutes.

MOTION CARRIED

Agenda Item 5: NFPA Staff Liaison Report Chris Farrell provided the NFPA Staff Liaison Report.

Agenda Item 6: Task Group on Project Definitions Karen Lehtonen provided an update on task group work. The group is currently working to compile all the definitions throughout the project. The ultimate goal will be to ensure definition consistency throughout the project.

Agenda Item 7: Task Group on Product Labeling Karen Lehtonen provided an update on task group work. The task group has compiled a table that details the requirements as they should apply throughout the project.

To have the Correlating Committee provide the labeling outline table to all of the project Technical

Committee Chairs.

MOTION CARRIED

Agenda Item 8: Task Group on Firefighter Hazard Environment

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Dan Rossos provided an update on task group work. The task group work is taking focus on the following areas: Ensuring each component of PPE performs consistently within the ensemble, Consistent performance requirements throughout the standard, and Matching performance requirements to the modern fireground environment. The NFPA Research Foundation is currently working on a project to define the hazard environment.

Agenda Item 9: Task Group on Eye and Face Protection Robert Tutterow provided an update on task group work. The task group has compiled a baseline summary of current eye / face protection requirements throughout various NFPA standards. This summary includes type of protection and when it should used on the fireground. The task group has also developed an end user survey, which will be conducted in 2017. The Correlating Committee also re-affirmed that the Task Group should remain a part of the Technical Committee, given the depth of knowledge of the team.

Agenda Item 10: Follow up on Certification Test Report Format Jeff Stull reviewed the work completed, including proposed standardized language and formatting for a simplified test report format. Deployment of this language / format will be discussed at future Correlating Committee meetings.

Agenda Item 11: Additional level of detail to be provided by manufacturer in user information Jeff Stull led a discussion about the information that manufacturers provide to end users. Specific criteria will need to be developed before further action can be taken.

Agenda Item 12: Consistency of Certified Product Listings Jeff Stull led a discussion about the current listings for certified products, which vary among the certification agencies. The Correlating Committee can seek consistency through a public comment to future standard revisions. A task group was formed to prepare this public comment. The new task group will by led by Harry Winer. Participants will include Steve Corrado, Tricia Hock, Beth Lancaster, Jeff Stull, and all Technical Committee Chairs.

Agenda Item 13: Overall PPE Project Schedule Chris Farrell provided an update on the status of this effort.

Agenda Item 14: NFPA 1801 – Second Draft Review The second draft and ballot results were discussed and reviewed by the committee. 1 Second Correlating Revision was created by the committee and will go to ballot.

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Agenda Item 15: NFPA 1951 – Second Draft Review The second draft and ballot results were discussed and reviewed by the committee. Due to user feedback on the usage of NFPA 1951 products, the Correlating Committee voted to send NFPA 1951 back to the First Revision stage.

Agenda Item 16: NFPA 1971 – Second Draft Review The second draft and ballot results were discussed and reviewed by the committee. 12 Second Correlating Revisions were created by the committee and will go to ballot. The committee also discussed the possibility of NFPA publishing a user notice encouraging firefighters to launder their hoods and other PPE when it becomes contaminated. The committee agreed to form a new task group to develop the notice. Bruce Varner will lead the task group. Participants will include Jeff Stull, Rick Swan, Tim Tomlinson, Robert Tutterow, Dick Weise, and Harry Winer. Marni Schmid will also work with this group to prepare the final language.

Agenda Item 17: NFPA 1999 – Second Draft Review The second draft and ballot results were discussed and reviewed by the committee. 2 Second Correlating Revisions were created by the committee and will go to ballot.



Agenda Item 16: Technical Committee Chair Reports

TC on ELS: R. Athanas: Bruce Varner provided an update on behalf of Chairman Athanas. The TIA created for NFPA 1982 has passed the Technical Committee and Correlating Committee Ballots. It will be voted on at the upcoming Standards Council meeting.

TC on EMS: T. Hock: Chairwoman Hock provided an update. Tricia also recommended that the 2020 Edition be eliminated, as there are two short cycles in the proposed standard cycle. The committee voted on and agreed to this proposal. Chris advised that the Standards Council would likely not accept the proposal.

TC on HAZ: C. Baxter: Jeff Stull provided an update on behalf of Chairwoman Baxter.

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TC on RPE: D. Rossos: Chairman Rossos provided an update on Task Group Work and NFPA Research Foundation projects. He also noted that there remained no NFPA 1984 compliant products and that DHS is investigating the possibility of funding development of such a product.

TC on SCE: J. Metz: Chairman Metz provided an update on Committee work. He also noted that a new Task Group would need to be formed for NFPA 1951, based on the correlating committee action.

TC on SPF: S. King: Chairman King provided an update on Committee work. There is a task group evaluating the new category of barrier hoods and more work remains.

TC on TTO: B. Montgomery: Chairman Montgomery provided an update on Committee work. NFPA 1986 will be released shortly, and combination unit standards development work remains ongoing.

TC on WFF: R. Swan: Chairman Swan provided an update on Committee work.

Agenda Items 17 and 18: Old Business and New Business The next Correlating Committee meeting will be held via teleconference on Tuesday, December 13.

Agenda Item 18: Adjournment Having no further business, the Chairman adjourned the meeting at 1600 on 3 November 2016. Respectfully submitted, Benjamin A. Mauti, Secretary CC on FESPCE

Requirement 1951 1952 1953 1971 1975 1977 1991 1992 1994 1999

Compliance Statement 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 3.0mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm

Cert Org Symbol 6mm 6mm 6mm 6mm None None 2.5mm 6mm 6mm 6mm

Cert Org Name 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm None None 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm

Other Required Label Info 1.6mm 1.6mm 2.0mm 1.5mm 2.0mm 1.6mm 2.0mm 1.6mm 1.6mm 1.6mm

Additional compliance statement 2.5mm N/A 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.0mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm

NFPA 1977

NFPA 1994

NFPA 1999

Requirement 1801 1802 1981 1982 1984 1986 1987

Compliance Statement 1.5mm 1.5mm 2mm 2mm 2.5mm 2mm TBD

Cert Org Symbol 6mm 6mm 6mm 6mm 6mm 6mm TBD

Cert Org Name 1.5mm TBD 2.5mm N/A 2.5mm 2.5mm TBD

Other Required Label Info 1.5mm TBD N/A 2mm N/A N/A TBD

Additional compliance statement N/A TBD N/A N/A 6mm N/A TBD

NFPA 1801

NFPA 1984

NFPA 1986

NFPA 1802 and NFPA 1987

NFPA 1981 and NFPA 1986

Conversions Metric English

1.5mm .059"

1.6mm 1/16"

2.0mm 0.0787

2.5mm 3/32"

6mm 1/4"

Highlighted cell identifies label height model to follow going forward unless otherwise justified by TC

Highlighted cells identify label height model to follow going forward unless otherwise justified by TC

Should always be the same based on product type

NFPA 1953

Arial font in all capital letters is required for all label lettering for cert org name and symbol (5.1.3)

Package compliance statement label requirement of 6mm (5.1.7)

Values above are based on current draft of the unpublished documents

Drafts are currently unpublished

Separate glove package and footwear package labels are allowed

If outer garments are required an additional statement at 13mm is required

Allows for exam glove package labels.

Technical data package statement shall be 1.5mm. Allows for glove and footwear package labels.

5.6.1.9 requires goggle lens informaiton to be 2mm

Requirement 1983 LS Rope Esc Rope Esc Web FRE Rope FRE Web MEL Rope Throwline LS Harness Belts

Compliance Statement 2mm 1.6mm 1.6mm 1.6mm 1.6mm 2mm 2mm 2mm 2mm

Cert Org Symbol 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 2.5mm 2mm 2.5mm 2.5mm

Cert Org Name N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

Other Required Label Info 2mm 1.6mm 1.6mm 2mm 1.6mm 2mm 2mm 2mm 2mm

Product Cert Values (MBS,Sz, Etc) 2mm 1.6mm 1.6mm 1.6mm 1.6mm 2mm 2mm 2mm 2mm

Detachable Components N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 2.5mm 2.5mm

ID Tape ID Tape ID Tape ID Tape ID Tape ID Tape ID Tape

Hang Tag Hang Tag Hang Tag Hang Tag Hang Tag Hang Tag Hang Tag

Requirement 1983 Esc Sys Mfg Eye Aux Equip VED Litters

Compliance Statement 2mm 2mm 2mm 2mm 2mm

Cert Org Symbol 2.5mm 2.5mm 2mm 2mm 2mm

Cert Org Name N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

Other Required Label Info 2mm 2mm 2mm 2mm 2mm

Product Cert Values (MBS,Sz, Etc)2mm 2mm 2mm N/A 2mm

Detachable Components 2.5mm N/A 2mm 2mm N/A

Hang Tag Hang Tag

Conversions Metric English

1.5mm .059"

1.6mm 1/16"

2.0mm 0.0787

2.5mm 3/32"

6mm 1/4"

TC to address consistency in lettering height during next revision of NFPA 1983

National Fire Protection Association 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471

Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org

M E M O R A N D U M

TO: Technical Committee on Respiratory Protection Equipment

FROM: Yvonne Smith, Project Administrator

DATE: October 31, 2016

SUBJECT: NFPA 1852 First Draft Technical Committee FINAL Ballot Results (F2017)

According to the final ballot results, all ballot items received the necessary affirmative votes to pass

ballot.

34 Members Eligible to Vote

4 Members Not Returned (Colton, Dickson, Kaller, Radtke)

30 Members Voted Affirmative on All Revisions (w/comment: Anaya, Morgan)

0 Members Voted Negative on one or more Revisions

0 Members Abstained on one or more Revisions

The attached report shows the number of affirmative, negative, and abstaining votes as well as the

explanation of the vote for each revision.

To pass ballot, each revision requires: (1) a simple majority of those eligible to vote and (2) an

affirmative vote of 2/3 of ballots returned. See Sections 3.3.4.3.(c) and 4.3.10.1 of the Regulations

Governing the Development of NFPA Standards.

First Revision No. 9-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 1.3.1.3 ]

1.3.1.3

This standard shall apply to the organization's existing open-circuit SCBA, other than as constrained by1.3.1.6 and 1.3.1.7 , that are covered in the care and maintenance part of the respiratory protectionprogram for open-circuit SCBA, and the standard shall also apply to the selection process to acquire newopen-circuit SCBA to augment or replace existing SCBA.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 12:30:15 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The references were deleted because these paragraphs no longer exist in the standard.

Response Message:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPara...

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Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.


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1.3.1.4

This standard shall apply to open-circuit SCBA that were certified by an independent third-partycertification organization as compliant with the 1992 edition of NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-CircuitSelf-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters , and the 1997 edition of NFPA 1981, Standardon Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for the Fire Service .




Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:


Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

This paragraph has been deleted because the referenced editions are no longerapplicable.

Response Message:

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.


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Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



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1.3.1.4

This standard shall apply to open-circuit SCBA that were certified by an independent third-partycertification organization as compliant with the 2002 edition or 2007 editions of NFPA 1981, Standardon Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for the Fire and Emergency Services , or with the2007 2013 edition or later editions of NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained BreathingApparatus for the Fire and Emergency Services .




Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:


Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The technical committee is updating the compliance dates.

Response Message:

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.


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Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



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1.3.1.6

Only the requirements of Section 4.3 or the requirements referenced within Section 4.3 shall apply toany open-circuit SCBA that were confirmed by the SCBA manufacturer as meeting the requirements ofthe 1981 or 1987 editions of NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained BreathingApparatus for Fire Fighters , or to the 1971 edition of NFPA 19B, Standard on Respiratory ProtectiveEquipment for Firefighters .




Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:


Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:


Response Message:

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher


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Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



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1.3.1.7

Only the requirements of Section 4.3 or the requirements referenced within Section 4.3 shall apply toany open-circuit SCBA that were never confirmed as meeting the requirements of the 1971 edition ofNFPA 19B, Standard on Respiratory Protective Equipment for Firefighters , or were never certified ascompliant with any edition of NFPA 1981.




Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:


Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:


Response Message:

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.


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Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



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First Revision No. 16-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 2.2 ]

2.2 NFPA Publications.

National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.

NFPA 19B, Standard on Respiratory Protective Equipment for Firefighters, 1971 edition.

NFPA 1500, Standard on Fire Department Occupational Safety and Health Program, 2013 edition.

NFPA 1901, Standard for Automotive Fire Apparatus, 2009 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices, 2018 edition.



NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire and EmergencyServices, 2002 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for the Fire Service, 1997edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters, 1992 edition.



NFPA 1982, Standard on Personal Alert Safety Systems (PASS), 2013 edition.

NFPA 1989, Standard on Breathing Air Quality for Emergency Services Respiratory Protection, 2013edition.




Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:


Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The technical committee is Including the 2018 edition in the Chapter 2 references.

Response Message:

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned


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30 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



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First Revision No. 3-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 2.3.1 ]

2.3.1 U.S. Government Publications.

U.S. Government Printing Publishing Office, 732 North Capitol Street, NW, Washington, DC20402 20401-0001 .

Title 29, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 1910.134, Respiratory Protection, 23 April 1998 7 August2012 .

Title 29, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 1910.156, Fire Brigades, 18 June 1998 12 December 2008 .




Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:


Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The technical committee is updating reference names, addresses and issue dates.

Response Message:

Public Input No. 7-NFPA 1852-2015 [Section No. 2.3.1]

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.


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Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



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First Revision No. 4-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 4.2 ]

4.2 Reporting Adverse Conditions Involving SCBA.

4.2.1

As part of the respiratory protection program, the organization shall develop standard operatingprocedures (SOPs) for a condition or conditions involving SCBA or SCBA components that lead(s) tofailure, near-failure, or a significant degradation of performance as a result of normal use.

4.2.2

Where a specific condition involving SCBA as specified in 4.2.1 is identified, the organization’sSOPs organization shall cause notify the SCBA manufacturer to be promptly notified in writing of thespecific condition(s) or cause, and the circumstances involved with the specific condition(s) or cause.

4.2.2.1

The procedure for notifying the manufacturer in writing shall be identified in the organization's SOPs.

4.2.3

Copies of the notification to the SCBA manufacturer shall also be promptly supplied to the certificationorganization that certified the SCBA and to National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health NationalPersonal Protective Technology Laboratory (NIOSH NPPTL).




Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:


Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee is revising this section to clarify the reporting of adverse conditionsinvolving SCBA.

Response Message:

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned


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Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.


Affirmative with Comment

Anaya, Christopher

Suggested language change to 4.2.3, with an asterisk added for referral to Annex: 4.2.3* Copies of thenotification to the SCBA manufacturer shall also be promptly supplied to Safety Equipment Institute (SEI), thecertification organization that certified the SCBA, and to the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health,National Personal Protective Technology Laboratory (NIOSH NPPTL).


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4.4.1

SCBA that are currently in service shall be certified as compliant with at least one of the followingstandards:

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for the Fire Service ,1997 edition

(1) NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire and EmergencyServices, 2002 edition

(2) NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices, 2007 edition

(3) NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices, 2013 edition

(4) NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices , 2018 edition

Supplemental Information

File Name Description

NFPA_1852_FR_5_4.4.1_Clean_Copy.docx For staff use




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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee is updating the editions of NFPA 1981 to which SCBA can remainin compliance.

Response Message:

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All



0 Abstention


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Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



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First Revision No. 6-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 4.4.2 [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ]

Where currently-in-service SCBA do not meet the requirements of 4.4.1 and are covered by any of thefollowing four categories, such SCBA shall be upgraded as specified in 4.4.3 or shall be retired asspecified in 4.4.5:

(1) Currently-in-service SCBA that were not certified as compliant with the 1997 2002 edition ofNFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for the Fire Service ,when the SCBA was manufactured

(2) Currently-in-service SCBA that were not certified as compliant with the 2002 2007 edition ofNFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire and EmergencyServices , when the SCBA was manufactured

(3) Currently-in-service SCBA that were not certified as compliant with the 2007 2013 edition ofNFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus(SCBA) for EmergencyServices , when the SCBA was manufactured

(4) Currently-in-service SCBA that were not certified as compliant with the 2013 2018 edition ofNFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices , when the SCBA was manufactured




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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee is updating the compliance dates for NFPA 1981.

The technical committee is deleting A.4.4.2 because they are no longer applicable to the2018 edition.

Response Message:

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All



0 Abstention


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Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



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4.4.4*

Where currently-in-service SCBA do not meet the requirements of 4.4.1 and are covered by any of thefollowing categories, such SCBA shall be retired as specified in 4.4.5:

(1) Currently-in-service SCBA that met only the requirements of the 1971 edition of NFPA 19B,Standard on Respiratory Protective Equipment for Firefighters , when the SCBA was manufactured

(2) Currently-in-service SCBA that met only the requirements of the 1981 edition of NFPA 1981,Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters , when the SCBAwas manufactured

(3) Currently-in-service SCBA that met only the requirements of the 1987 edition of NFPA 1981,Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters , when the SCBAwas manufactured

(4) Currently-in-service SCBA that met only the requirements of the 1992 edition of NFPA 1981,Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters, when the SCBAwas manufactured

(5) Currently-in-service SCBA that were purchased prior to July 29, 1981 that did not meet therequirements of the 1971 edition of NFPA 19B, Standard on Respiratory Protective Equipment forFirefighters , when the SCBA was manufactured

(6) Currently-in-service SCBA that were purchased after July 29, 1981 and prior to June 30, 1987 thatdid not meet the requirements of the 1981 edition of NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-CircuitSelf-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters , when the SCBA was manufactured

(7) Currently-in-service SCBA that were purchased after June 30, 1987 and prior to August 14, 1992 thatdid not meet the requirements of the 1987 edition of NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-CircuitSelf-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters , when the SCBA was manufactured

(8) Currently-in-service SCBA that were purchased after August 14, 1992 and prior to August 15, 1997that did not meet the requirements of the 1992 edition of NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-CircuitSelf-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters , when the SCBA was manufactured

(9) Currently-in-service SCBA that were purchased after August 15, 1997 and prior to March 1, 2003that did not meet the requirements of the 1997 edition of NFPA 1981 when the SCBA wasmanufactured.




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Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The technical committee is updating the compliance dates.

Response Message:

Ballot Results


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34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.




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Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



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5.1.5

The organization shall also consider at least the following items during the selection process:

(1) Cross contamination between users and ease of cleaning/decontamination

(2) Legibility of remote pressure indicators in reduced visibility

(3) Size

(4) Weight

(5) Rated service time

(6) Breathing resistance

(7) Environment

(8) Ease of donning and doffing

(9) Comfort

(10) Fit range and available number of facepiece sizes

(11) Number and complexity of steps involved in operation and maintenance of the SCBA

(12) Design features that provide positive feedback to the user that required steps have been completedproperly

(13) Design features that prevent steps from being performed improperly

(14) Operability by user wearing the protective clothing and gloves worn when using SCBA

(15) Facepiece vision area

(16) Cylinder fill station requirements

(17)

(18)

(19) Vision correction needs of their personnel

(20) Characteristics of the end of service time indicators

(21) Communication capability (i.e including, but not limited to , speech diaphragms, voice amplifiers, radiointerface, and so forth )

(22) Supplied air compatibility

(23) Number of spare SCBA and cylinders

(24) Rapid cylinder filling options

(25) Cylinder types

(26) Chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear (CBRN) respiratory protection

(27) SCBA accessories as follows:

(a) Telemetry and monitoring systems

(b) Personnel location systems

(c) SCBA-integrated PASS

(d) Emergency egress escape systems for bailout

(e) Emergency breathing safety system (EBSS)

(28) Data log information and ease of retrieval

(29) Battery life

(30) Integration with command, accountability, and air management systems



* Method for uniquely identifying the components of the SCBA

* Facepiece nose cup


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NFPA_1852_FR_13_5.1.5_Clean_Copy.docx For staff use




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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee is adding additional items to the list of considerations during theSCBA selection process.

ResponseMessage:

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira


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Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



Morgan, Judge W.

Regarding the items for consideration in 5.1.5, I would suggest adding the following: Under (27) SCBAaccessories: - In-mask displays - Redundancy of critical life safety systems - Facepiece compatibility with otherrespiratory protection products, such as air-purifying respirators and powered air-purifying respirators -Comprehensiveness of manufacturer’s warranty terms I would recommend changing the following in 5.1.5: •Item(1) Change to “Cleaning and decontamination requirements” •Item (11) Change to "Number and complexity ofsteps involved in operation and maintenance of the SCBA, including any forced maintenance requirements”


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First Revision No. 2-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Chapter D ]

Annex D Informational References

D.1 Referenced Publications.

The documents or portions thereof listed in this annex are referenced within the informational sections ofthis standard and are not part of the requirements of this document unless also listed in Chapter 2 forother reasons.

D.1.1 NFPA Publications.


NFPA 19B, Standard on Respiratory Protective Equipment for Firefighters, 1971 edition.

NFPA 1500, Standard on Fire Department Occupational Safety and Health Program, 2013 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices , 2018 edition.



NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for the Fire Service, 1997edition.




D.1.2 Other Publications.

D.1.2.1 ANSI Publications.

American National Standards Institute Inc., 11 West 42nd Street, 13th floor, New York, NY 10036.

ANSI/AIHA/ASSE Z88.6, Respiratory Protection — Respirator Use — Physical Qualifications forPersonnel, 1984 2006 .

D.1.2.2 U.S. Government Publications.

U.S. Government Printing Publishing Office, 732 North Capitol Street, NW, Washington, DC20402 20401-0001 .

Title 29, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 1910.156, 18 June 1998 7 August 2012 .

Title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, Parts 100–199, 1999.

D.2 Informational References.

The following documents or portions thereof are listed here as informational resources only. They are nota part of the requirements of this document.

D.2.1 CGA Publications.

Compressed Gas Association, 1725 Jefferson Davis Highway, Arlington, VA 22202-4100 14501 GeorgeCarter Way, Suite 103, Chantilly, VA 20151-1788 .

CGA Pamphlet C-6.2, Guidelines Standard for the Visual Inspection and Requalification of FiberReinforced High Pressure Cylinders, 2013 .

D.2.2 DOT Special Permits.

Associate Administrator for Department of Transportation, Washington, DC 20590, Attention: DHM-31.


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D.2.3 PSI-PCI Publications.

Professional Scuba Inspectors, 6531 NE 198th Street, Seattle, WA 98155 P.O. Box 2477, Burlington, NC27216 .

William L. High, Inspecting Cylinders.

SCBA Cylinder Technician Inspection, Training, and Certification.

D.3 References for Extracts in Informational Sections. (Reserved)




Street Address:

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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee is updating the referenced SDO names, addresses, standardnames, numbers, and editions.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 1-NFPA 1852-2015 [Chapter D]

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan


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Colbert, Rodney V.


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



Anaya, Christopher

Request an addition to Annex that provides the mailing addresses of NIOSH and SEI to which copied reportsshould be sent: A.4.2.3 Copied reports shall be mailed to the following: Safety Equipment Institute (SEI), 1307Dolley Madison Boulevard, Suite 3A, McLean VA 22101 The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health,National Personal Protective Technology Laboratory (NIOSH NPPTL), 626 Cochrans Mill Road, PITT Building 20,Room #201.1, MS #20, Pittsburgh, PA 15236, Attention: Kim Gavel, General Engineer


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National Fire Protection Association 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471

Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org

M E M O R A N D U M

TO: Technical Committee on Respiratory Protection Equipment

FROM: Yvonne Smith, Project Administrator

DATE: November 14, 2016

SUBJECT: NFPA 1989 First Draft Technical Committee FINAL Ballot Results (A2018)

According to the final ballot results, all ballot items received the necessary affirmative votes to pass

ballot.

34 Members Eligible to Vote

4 Members Not Returned: Brubaker, Colbert, Colton, Mayhue

28 Members Voted Affirmative on All Revisions

2 Members Vote Affirmative with Comment on one or more Revisions: Miles, Sell

2 Members Voted Negative on one or more Revisions: Anaya, Miles

0 Members Abstained on one or more Revisions

The attached report shows the number of affirmative, negative, and abstaining votes as well as the

explanation of the vote for each revision.

To pass ballot, each revision requires: (1) a simple majority of those eligible to vote and (2) an

affirmative vote of 2/3 of ballots returned. See Sections 3.3.4.3.(c) and 4.3.10.1 of the Regulations

Governing the Development of NFPA Standards.

First Revision No. 4-NFPA 1989-2016 [ Section No. 1.3.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ]

This standard shall apply to atmosphere-supplying respirators that provide the breathing air supply from acompressed breathing gas source or liquid air source that is independent of the ambient atmosphere.




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Submittal Date: Tue Aug 09 15:29:03 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source forbreathing air. The technical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquidair manufacture, storage, sampling, and analysis methodology.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 9-NFPA 1989-2016 [Section No. 1.3.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]]

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.


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Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.


Negative with Comment

Anaya, Christopher

Proposed language should not be added. It is my opinion the NFPA 1981 TC should not be approving the use ofliquid air for structural firefighting activities until the technology is better understood and concerns and/or questionscan be adequately addressed.

Miles, Stephen T.

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source for breathing air. Thetechnical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquid air manufacture, storage, sampling,and analysis methodology. There is insufficient information on the safe blending of breathing air for me to supportthis for fire fighting operations at this point. Breathing air and water are the two most important factors for firesuppression. Mixed gas breathing air, re-breathers, and synthetic air all have their place in their technicaldiscipline fields. Those applications are beyond the standard fire suppression operations. I don't have enoughinformation to support this at this time.


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1.3.1.2

This standard shall apply to all compressed normal atmospheric air, and all compressed syntheticbreathing air, and liquid air regardless of the source of the breathing air.




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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:


ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 10-NFPA 1989-2016 [Section No. 1.3.1.2]

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.


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Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



Anaya, Christopher

Proposed language should not be added. It is my opinion the NFPA 1981 TC should not be approving the use ofliquid air for structural fire fighting activities until the technology is better understood and concerns and/orquestions can be adequately addressed.

Miles, Stephen T.

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source for breathing air. Thetechnical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquid air manufacture, storage, sampling,and analysis methodology. There is insufficient information on the safe blending of breathing air for me to supportthis for fire fighting operations at this point. Breathing air and water are the two most important factors for firesuppression. Mixed gas breathing air, re-breathers, and synthetic air all have their place in their technicaldiscipline fields. Those applications are beyond the standard fire suppression operations.


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First Revision No. 3-NFPA 1989-2016 [ Chapter 2 ]

Chapter 2 Referenced Publications

2.1 General.

The documents or portions thereof listed in this chapter are referenced within this standard and shall beconsidered part of the requirements of this document.

2.2 NFPA Publications.


NFPA 1500, Standard on Fire Department Occupational Safety and Health Program, 2013 2018 edition.

NFPA 1901, Standard for Automotive Fire Apparatus, 2016 edition.

2.3 Other Publications.

2.3.1 ASTM Publications.

ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.

ASTM D2986-95a , Standard Practice for Evaluation of Air Assay Media by the Monodisperse DOP(Dioctyl Phthalate) Smoke Test, 1995 1999 .

2.3.2 ISO Publications.

International Organization for Standardization, 1, Ch. de la Voie-Creuse, Case postale 56, CH-1211 ISOCentral Secretariat, BIBC II, Chemin de Blandonnet 8, CP 401, 1214 Vernier, Geneva 20 Geneva ,Switzerland.

ISO 17025, General requirements for the competence of calibration and testing laboratories, 1999 2005,Technical Corrigendum 1, 2006 .

2.3.3 Other Publications.

Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Merriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, 2003.

2.4 References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections. (Reserved)




Street Address:

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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee is updating the referenced SDO names, addresses, standardnames and editions.

Response Message:

Public Input No. 1-NFPA 1989-2015 [Chapter 2]

Ballot Results



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34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark


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Warner, Kenton D.



Miles, Stephen T.

I support this, no comment.


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First Revision No. 9-NFPA 1989-2016 [ New Section after 3.3.7 ]

3.3.10 Liquid Air System.

A system for the manufacture, storage, and delivery of liquid air.




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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:


ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 12-NFPA 1989-2016 [New Section after 3.3.7]

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.


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Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



Anaya, Christopher


Miles, Stephen T.



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3.3.9 Liquid Air.

A cryogenic mixture that, once vaporized, delivers breathable air to the user.




Street Address:

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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:


ResponseMessage:


Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.


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Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



Anaya, Christopher


Miles, Stephen T.



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5.1.1*

At least quarterly, the The organization shall take at least four breathing air samples per year. Samples tomeet this requirement shall be taken within 90 days ± 5 days of each other. The organization shall takebreathing air samples and shall submit such samples to an accredited testing laboratory that meets therequirements specified in Chapter 4.




Street Address:

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Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The technical committee is clarifying the quarterly sampling requirement.

Response Message:

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.


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Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



Miles, Stephen T.



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5.3.1

The organization shall document whether the breathing air is derived from normal atmospheric air, ormanufactured synthetic air, or liquid air .




Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:


Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:


ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 14-NFPA 1989-2016 [Section No. 5.3.1]

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.


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Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



Anaya, Christopher


Miles, Stephen T.



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5.3.4

The organization shall have the synthetic breathing air samples tested as specified in Section 6.1 of thisstandard to verify the oxygen content is not less than liquid air in the storage unit shall be sampled foroxygen concentration during the transfer to the respirator to verify that the oxygen content is not less than19.5 percent and not greater than 23.5 percent by volume. A supplier’s analysis or certificate of oxygencontent shall not be sufficient An electronic sampling method shall be permitted to comply with thisrequirement.




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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The TC is revising this paragraph to ensure that liquid air systems meet the oxygenrequirements of NFPA 1989.

ResponseMessage:

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.


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Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



Anaya, Christopher

Current language should not be changed. It is my opinion the NFPA 1981 TC should not be approving the use ofliquid air for structural fire fighting activities until the technology is better understood and concerns and/orquestions can be adequately addressed.

Miles, Stephen T.



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5.5.1.1

Stand-alone air storage cylinders filled from a compressor meeting the air quality requirements inSection 5.6 of this standard shall not require a quarterly sample.

5.5.1.1

Samples from liquid air systems shall be obtained at the point specified by the liquid air system'soperating instructions.




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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source forbreathing air. The technical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquidair manufacture, storage, sampling, and analysis methodology.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 16-NFPA 1989-2016 [Section No. 5.5.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]]

Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

27 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint


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Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



Sell, Robert

Based upon my notes from the meeting, I was under the impression that we were going to keep the original textand add Section 5.5.1.2 to include the sampling location for liquid air?


Anaya, Christopher


Miles, Stephen T.

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source for breathing air. Thetechnical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquid air manufacture, storage, sampling,and analysis methodology. There is insufficient information on the safe blending of breathing air for me to supportthis for fire fighting operations at this point. Breathing air and water are the two most important factors for fire


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suppression. Mixed gas breathing air, re-breathers, and synthetic air all have their place in their technicaldiscipline fields. Those applications are beyond the standard fire suppression operations.


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5.7.2.2

The quality assurance sign shall also state the following, and all letters and numbers shall be at least12 mm (1⁄2 in.) in height:

“ COMPRESSED AIR SOURCE IDENTIFICATION — NEXT SAMPLE DUE ON OR BEFORE [date]”

or

LIQUID AIR SOURCE IDENTIFICATION — NEXT SAMPLE DUE ON OR BEFORE [date]




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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source for breathingair. The technical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquid airmanufacture, storage, sampling, and analysis methodology. Cryogenic air was changed to liquid airfor consistency with the rest of the standard.

ResponseMessage:


Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint


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Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



Anaya, Christopher


Miles, Stephen T.



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7.3 General Piping and Fittings Safety Factor.

7.3.1

All pneumatic fittings, tubing, and hose shall be rated for the maximum allowable working pressure thatcould be encountered, with a test safety factor of not less than 4:1.

7.3.2

The mechanical separator and the purifier housings shall be designed for a 4:1 safety factor at theirmaximum allowable working pressure.

7.4 SCBA or SCUBA Air Cylinder Fill Stations.

7.4.1

If SCBA or SCUBA air cylinders are to be filled from stationary fill stations, the fill stations shall meet therequirements of NFPA 1901 , 24.9.1.1 through 24.9.6.3.




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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee believes that all compressor components should maintain a 4:1safety factor as stated in NFPA 1901.

The technical committee is adding a section on fragmentation protection for cylinders and isreferencing NFPA 1901.

ResponseMessage:


Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All



0 Abstention


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Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



Miles, Stephen T.

I support this, no comments.


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7.6.4.1*

These records shall include, but not be limited to, the fill date, identification of the person performing thefill, cylinder serial number, breathing air source, final cylinder pressure, and most recent hydrostatic testdate.



NFPA_1989_Annex_Item_A.7.4.4.1.docx




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Committee Statement

Committee Statement: Need a comma after "fill date."

Annex information added by TC, please see attached Word document.

Response Message:


Ballot Results


34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All



0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint


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Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William


Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.



Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.



Miles, Stephen T.



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