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61(2020Web/Secretariat)109 November 2020 INTERNATIONAL ELECTROTECHNICAL COMMISSION TECHNICAL COMMITTEE NO.61: SAFETY OF HOUSEHOLD AND SIMILAR ELECTRICAL APPLIANCES Daily Report for TC 61 Web Meeting on 23 November 2020 Attendees of TC61 Meeting Web Meeting on 23 November 2020 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fabio GARGANTINI ITALY (CHAIR) Dejun MA CHINA (VICE CHAIR) Randi MYERS UNITED STATES (SECRETARY) Grace ROH UNITED STATES (ASSISTANT SECRETARY) NC/ organizati on Last name First name Role 1 November 23 AU Booth* Geoffrey Head of Delegation X AU Murdoch Adam Delegate X BE Meier Matthias Delegate 1 ®

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61(2020Web/Secretariat)109November 2020

INTERNATIONAL ELECTROTECHNICAL COMMISSIONTECHNICAL COMMITTEE NO.61: SAFETY OF HOUSEHOLD AND SIMILAR ELECTRICAL APPLIANCES

Daily Report for TC 61 Web Meeting on 23 November 2020

Attendees of TC61 Meeting Web Meeting on 23 November 2020____________________________________________________________________________________

Fabio GARGANTINI ITALY (CHAIR)Dejun MA CHINA (VICE CHAIR)Randi MYERS UNITED STATES (SECRETARY)Grace ROH UNITED STATES (ASSISTANT SECRETARY)

NC/ organization

Last name First name Role1 November 23

AU Booth* Geoffrey Head of Delegation X

AU Murdoch Adam Delegate X

BE Meier Matthias Delegate

BE Vankerkhove Philippe Delegate

CA Brière David Delegate X

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NC/ organization

Last name First name Role November 23

CA Martin* Ken Head of Delegation X

CN Bi Chongqiang Delegate

CN Chen Dongpo Delegate

CN Chen Cankun Delegate X

CN Chen Jian Delegate

CN Chen Huafang Delegate

CN Ding Xiaobo Delegate

CN Feng Caiyun Delegate

CN Feng Longbiao Delegate

CN Gai Qigao Delegate

CN Gao Jiajia Delegate

CN Hao Dapeng Delegate

CN Huang Lei Delegate

CN Huang Wenxiu Delegate X

CN Jian Pengfei Delegate

CN Leng Xiaozhuang Delegate

CN Li Shanshan Delegate

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NC/ organization

Last name First name Role November 23

CN Liu Jian Delegate

CN Liu Xu Delegate

CN Liu Zhenquan Delegate

CN Mao Lili Delegate

CN Miao Shuai Delegate

CN Sheng Ri Delegate

CN Shi Yanling Delegate

CN Sun Guozhen Delegate

CN Wan Xuelong Delegate

CN Wang Kun Delegate

CN Wang Jing Delegate

CN Wang Binhou Delegate

CN Wu* Meng Head of Delegation X

CN Xie Runqing Delegate

CN Xiong Haoping Delegate

CN Xu Yi Delegate

CN Xu Fang Delegate

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NC/ organization

Last name First name Role November 23

CN Yang Ying Delegate

CN Yang Xingguo Delegate

CN Yang Bin Delegate

CN Yuan Wangtan Delegate

CN Zeng Jian Delegate

CN Zhang Ge Delegate

CN Zheng Wenwei Delegate

CN Zhou Yanwu Delegate

DK Amundesen Helen Delegate X

DK Bruus-Jensen Jørgen Delegate X

DK Christensen Hans Schou Observer X

DK Dalgas-Madsen Per Delegate X

DK Krzywkowski Anders Delegate

DK Nielsen Henning Delegate X

DK Tychsen* Jørn Head of Delegation X

FI Mattinen* Reijo Head of Delegation X

FI Söderblom Kurt Delegate X

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NC/ organization

Last name First name Role November 23

FI Vesa Juha Delegate

FR Boileau* Yohann Head of Delegation X

FR Bottollier Stéphane Delegate X

FR Cheynel Vincent Delegate

FR Margas Jacques Delegate

FR Thierry Julien Delegate X

DE Baur Ralf Delegate

DE Dreyer Markus Delegate

DE Fischer Klaus Delegate

DE Freier Heinz H. Delegate

DE Kaim Leo Delegate

DE Landgräber Josef Delegate X

DE Mayle* Andreas Head of Delegation X

DE Perroni Dario Delegate

DE Pohl Klaus-Dieter Delegate

DE Reiter Bruno Delegate

DE Richarz Frank Delegate

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NC/ organization

Last name First name Role November 23

DE Seiffert Edmund Delegate

GH Appiah Adelaide Delegate

GH Dowuona Moses Delegate

GH Eklemet Ebenezer Afari Delegate

IR Kamelzadeh Mehdi Head of Delegation X

IR Sharifi Hamid Delegate X

IE Betz Martin Delegate

IE Clarke Joanne Delegate

IT Aloisi Alberto Delegate

IT Cecchinato* Gianluca Head of Delegation X

IT Maman Marco Deelgate

IT Marino Michele Delegate

IT Orlandi Maurizio Delegate

IT Monguzzi Pierluca Delegate X

IT Reina Luca Delegate X

IT Sinatra Fabio Delegate

IT Spinelli Gabrio Delegate X

IT Stella Salvo Delegate X

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NC/ organization

Last name First name Role November 23

IT Togni Silvia Delegate X

IT Vit Stefano Delegate

IT Zanichelli Ursula Delegate X

JP Jema Delegate

JP Abe Shuji Delegate

JP Harashima Keisuke Delegate X

JP Ikeno Tomoaki Delegate X

JP Kodama Masachika Delegate X

JP Maekawa Yasunori Delegate X

JP Oura Koichi Delegate

JP Sasaki Akitsugu Delegate X

JP Sato* Masahiro Head of Delegation X

JP Suzuki Yusuke Delegate X

JP Tanabe Masatada Delegate

JP Ueda Kazuhiro Delegate X

JP Ujita Ryota Delegate X

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NC/ organization

Last name First name Role November 23

KR Choi Hyunho Delegate

KR Hong Junil Delegate

KR Kim Jihan Delegate

KR Kim Sung Kwan Delegate

KR Lee Juchan Delegate

KR Lee Kun-Mo Delegate

KR Lee Siock Delegate

KR Nam* Sihyun Head of Delegation

KR Shin Suhyun Delegate

MY Chiam Tow Jen Delegate

MY Chin Hui Chia Delegate

MY Lu Min Linda Wong Delegate

MY Soon Ann Ng Delegate

MX Aquino Díaz Daniel Delegate X

MX Fabián Vázquez Juan Israel Delegate X

MX García Cortés Mariana Delegate X

MX Rosales Salazar* Juan Manuel Head of Delegation X

MX Sandoval Carreño Omar Alejandro Delegate X

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NC/ organization

Last name First name Role November 23

MX Vega Alcántara Aliscair Delegate X

NL Van Aalderen* Dinand Head of Delegation X

NL Van Zanten Thijs Delegate

NZ Johns* Derek Head of Delegation X

NO Oynes Tor Delegate X

NO Salater Trond Delegate

NO Ulsrud* Terje Head of Delegation X

PK Khanzada Fahimullah

PH Desamito Oliver Delegate

PH Jornales Daniel Collin Delegate

PL Wozny* Krzysztof Head of Delegation X

PT Cabral Paulo Delegate

SA Almalki Essa Delegate

SA Amman Hesham Delegate

SI Atelsek Marko Delegate X

SI Kraner* Danilo Head of Delegation X

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NC/ organization

Last name First name Role November 23

SI Kuzner Janez Delegate

SI Zontar Matej Delegate

ZA Kabini Vusi Delegate

ZA Kubeka Sekwanele Delegate

ZA Mabena* Thabo Isaac Head of Delegation X

ES Guirado Torres* Rafael Head of Delegation X

ES Ondiviela Serrano Esther Delegate X

SE Kindblad* Daniel Head of Delegation X

SE Mattsson Leif Delegate

SE Salomonsson Johan Delegate

CH Bornel Pascal Delegate X

CH Dietschi* Fabian Head of Delegation X

CH Gromov Alexey Delegate X

CH Pastorelli Sarah Delegate X

CH Roos Marcel Delegate X

CH Russeau Wanessa Delegate X

CH Stolz Eduard Delegate

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NC/ organization

Last name First name Role November 23

TR Güdücü Ceren Delegate

TR Gürpınar Cansu Delegate X

TR Doğan* Nilay Head of Delegation X

TR Ilbay Fatma Delegate

TR Kayikci Bora Delegate

TR Koyuncu Ünsal Delegate

TR Özkırım Hilmi Gürkan Delegate

TR Sagir Zeynep Delegate

TR Yıldırım İbrahim Oğuz Delegate

AE Intalan Marco X

GB Greenman Colin Delegate

GB Harris Richard Delegate X

GB Jones Nicholas Delegate X

GB Larkin Matthew Delegate

GB Pahlavanpour Behrooz Delegate

GB Rustemi Irma Delegate X

GB Sellers Alan Delegate

GB Skinner* Clem Head of Delegation X

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NC/ organization

Last name First name Role November 23

US Albert Larry Delegate

US Andersen* Michelle Head of Delegation X

US Chiang Flore Delegate X

US Cooper Randall Delegate

US DeSilvia Tom Delegate X

US Hon Charlie Delegate X

US Horak Byron Delegate

US Hoyer David Delegate

US Puckett Kenneth Delegate

US Williams Matthew Delegate

Consumers International

Evans Chris Liaison X

IEC TC 72 Schwendemann Eckhard Liaison X

ISO TC 126 Hyodo Takatsugu Guest X

ISO TC 126 Trinkies Wolfgang Guest X

27. IEC 60335-2-60: Particular requirements for whirlpool baths and whirlpool spas 27a. 61/5991/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6049/INF

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Netherlands, NumerousAlso taking into consideration 61(2020Web/ahG 2-60)116The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6049A/INF

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1 FR01 ge FRNC supports the proposal with the following comments :

Noted

2 GB01 ge The British National Committee supports this document without comment.

Noted

3 CH01 ge The CH NC regrets to reject 61/5991/DC due to the following reason(s).

See 8

4 AU01 ge Australia has already made changes to this standard to cover the risk of electric shock as described in this DC however the scope was not expanded to include swimming pools. We understand the intent is to expand the scope of the standard to pools. Australia is also currently looking into this, but more work is required to ensure it is mature enough to share. We suggest waiting until the Australian proposal is submitted to discuss further.

See 8

5 CH02 Background

ge Requirement for installations can have some differences to the requirements for products. Within the product the rules of IEC 60335 apply, the installations rules shall be applied only until the socked-outlet. The safety of “transportable whirlpool spas” is guaranteed by the special requirements adapted to the product in question, which are described in IEC 60335-2-60. The installation standards cannot be compared with a product standard. Only the standard of a product can take into account its specific details and safety issues.

Delete the proposal See 8

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6 DK01 ge The “background” provided for this proposal is not fully understood. In particular it is indicated that there has been “…failure of cl. II insulation where metal parts are not connected to earth…the water was in contact with mains voltage… allowed by the standard”.However, the fact that water had reached live parts due to a failure of “cl. II insulation” suggest that a single-layer the reinforced insulation has been used. Such construction is however prohibited by the second paragraph of cl. 22.33. Therefore, it would appear that the appliances in question are not compliant with the standard.If the “cl. II insulation” consist of separate basic- and supplementary insulation or of reinforced insulation of minimum 3 separate layers as required in cl. 22.33 then water entry to live parts resulting from a failure of the “cl II insulation” appear to be preventedSimilar requirements are also provided in cl. 22.106 of 60335-2-60.Additionally, the DK NC questions the relation to IEC 60364-7-702 in connection with whirlpool spa’s.IEC 60364-7-702 cover installation requirement for swimming pools and ponds. A swimming pool is defined as a “water basin designed for swimming, diving etc”A whirlpool spa is not designed for swimming or diving and would normally not be sufficiently large for this purpose. Therefor the reference to IEC 60364-7-702 should not be made and instead IEC 60364-7-701 would be sufficient to

See 8

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cover requirements for both whirlpool baths and spa’s(following their definitions the difference between these appliances is mainly whether or not they are being drained after each use).

7 DK02 2 1 te Adding the word “spas” as proposed does not make sense. The third paragraph specify that the standard also cover appliances for circulating air or water in conventional baths. Per definition a “spa” already include provisions for circulating air or water.A “spa” is already included in the scope and should not be added in this paragraph

Delete line 2 of the proposal See 8

8 NZ01 2 1 te The term spa has no meaning with respect IEC 60364-7-702. We presume the intention is to expand the scope of the standard to cover swimming pools that are defined in IEC 60364-7-702 as “water basin designed for purposes such as swimming, diving, etc. and not for personal cleaning activity” whereas whirlpool spas are not designed swimming or diving activities.

More details of examples of what is intended if swimming pools are added to the scope.

Regarding the question of whether whirlpool spas are covered by 60364-7-701 or 60364-7-702, during the meeting it was decided to setup an ahG to work during the course of the 2020 web meeting series to prepare the questions that would be presented from IEC TC61 to IEC TC 64 and for an overall analysis of the proposals concerning 2-60 covered by the document under discussion (61/5991/DC ) and those being prepared by AU NC (see also comment AU01 #4). The Convenor of the ahG was Adam Murdoch (AUNC). The following

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experts volunteered to participate on the ahG: Thijs van Zanten (NLNC), Derek Johns (NZNC), Thabo Mabena (ZANC), Danilo Kraner (SINC) and Severo Nicoli (CHNC).Update 23 November 2020: The report from the ahG was provided during the TC 61 web meeting held 23 November 2020.The ahG prepared the request to IEC TC 64, including that a formal decision of the TC is requested, considering the opinion of NCs in the TC, and that the decision shall be clarified in an amendment to the applicable standard (7-701 or 7-702) to eliminate the uncertainties on whether 60364-7-701 or 60364-7-702 shall be applied to whirlpool SPAs.Based on the answer to be received from IEC TC 64, TC 61 will determine whether to form a WG to review the scope of 2-60 and application of the standard for different appliances and develop modifications to be covered in a new DC for 60335-2-60. This will include addressing the clarification from IEC TC 64, updates

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needed for the proposal from NL NC and the additional proposals being developed by AU NC. As a result of the above actions, it was agreed to postpone the Stability Date for 60335-2-60 to 2022.

9 FR02 3.5.1 Note 1 te Modification: Delete the word ‘Transportable’ in Note 1 to entry.The note avoids confusion between transportable and portable.

Keep note 1 to entry See 8

10 CH03 9-16 3.5.1 ed “Transportable whirlpool spas” are a defined kind of product. Do not make confusion with the definition: “portable appliance”. This note 1 just clarify the fact that “transportable whirlpool spas” are not “portable appliances“;for example because they are heavier than 18 kg. To delete the word “transportable” do not make sense.

Don't change clause 3.5.1 See 8

11 US01 13, 14 te The Note in 3.5.1 for Portable Appliance should not be revised. The definition as currently published suffices.

The Note clarifies that a Transportable Whirlpool Spa is not considered Portable. Removing the word “transportable” may lead to confusion, if a transportable spa then is considered portable. Also, to avoid classifying a whirlpool spa as a portable appliance, the term Portable in Part 1 already applies and is sufficient

Last, the rationale indicates that “…when full with water is more than 18kg..”. There is no requirement in Part

Delete this part of the proposal. See 8

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1 or part 2 to measure the weight with or without water.

However, if the proposed change does not occur, then this carries thru to other parts of the submitters proposal as well, which may need to be reconsidered.

12 CH04 17-22 5.101 te There is no reason to reduce the severity of the requirements only because the installations rules say that. This art of product need these severity of requirements.

Don't change clause 5.101 See 8

13 NL01 19 5.101 te As a consequence of the deletion of 5.101 some requirements for portable appliances in this standard and in part 1 are not applied anymore to transportable spas while some of these however are relevant for portable spas and required by the existing part 2-60.With regard to 7.15:The easy visibility of markings for portable appliances shall also apply to transportable whirlpool spas (as is the case in the existing part 2-60)13.2:Transportable whirlpool spas are plug connected appliances just like portable appliances. Therefore there is an increased risk that these appliances are not connected to an earthed socket outlet. As a result the leakage current limits for class I portable appliances should apply for class I transportable whirlpool spas (as is the case in the existing part 2-60)16.2:Transportable whirlpool spas are plug connected appliances just like portable

The following additions are necessary:

7.15 Modification:For portable appliances and transportable whirlpool spas, it shall be possible to remove or open this cover without the aid of a tool.

13.2 Modification:(9th paragraph - 4th dashed item).

- for portable class I appliances and class I transportable whirlpool spas 0,75 mA

16.2 Modification:(4th paragraph -3rd dashed item).

- for portable class I appliances and class I transportable whirlpool spas 0,75 mA

22.104 Modification:In the first paragraph add the words ‘and transportable whirlpool spas’ after the word appliances.

See 8

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appliances. Therefore there is an increased risk that these appliances are not connected to an earthed socket outlet. As a result the leakage current limits for class I portable appliances do apply fro class I transportable whirlpool spas (as is the case in the existing part 2-60)

22.104:These requirements are also applicable to transportable whirlpool spas (as is the case in the existing part 2-60). Transportable whirlpool spas may be moved from time to time and they do not have a fixed location, therefore there is an increased risk of putting the appliance on a non hardened surface (e.g. lawn) where small objects may penetrate the underside.25.19:These requirements are also applicable to transportable whirlpool spas (as is the case in the existing part 2-60).

25.19 Modification:For type X attachment, glands shall not be used as cord anchorages in portableappliances and transportable whirlpool spas.

14 NZ02 19 5.101 te We do not agree with the deletion of this subclause It is important for the correct application of Part 1 particularly for the leakage current limits in Clause 13.2, 16.2 and other clauses such as 25.9, 25.21 etc. Its deletion will lead to a reduction in the level of safety for transportable whirlpool spas.

Reject the proposal. See 8

15 US02 27, 29-30

6.1 te Class II should not be removed. The proposed Note 1 is an example of a class II appliance with class III construction.

Delete lines 27 and 29-30 See 8

16 FR03 Line 28 6.1 1st & 2nd te It is proposed to refer to IEC 60364-7- To add in line 28: “with a voltage not See 8

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and line 36

sentence 702 which allows for Class III 12Vac or 30Vdc. So these voltage levels shall be allowed by 60335-2-60

exceeding 12 Vac or 30Vdc”To add in line 36: “with a voltage not exceeding 12 Vac or 30Vdc”

17 US03 28, 36 6.1 te 6.1 is about the classification. The voltage limitation should be included in Clause 22 instead. This should be covered in the 22.33 Addition, similar to the requirements in 22.26 of -2-8 or 22.36 of -2-52.

Delete lines 28 and 36 and update 22.33 if needed

Parts in contact with the water shall be class III construction having a working voltage not exceeding 12 V.

See 8

18 CH05 31-37 6.1 te By changing the second paragraph, all the requirements for “transportable whirlpool spas” are overturning and they do not make sense anymore. The safety of this kind of product is no longer given.

Don't change the second paragraph:”Transportable whirlpool spas having metal parts in contact with water shall be class I or class III.”

See 8

19 DK03 42-43 6.2 te It does not make sense to require a certain IP rating for the tub itself of whirlpool bath’s and spa’s. IEC 60529 which defines the IP classes and associated requirements is a standard aimed at “enclosures” and degree of protection provided by enclosures. As the tub is fully open at the top it cannot be considered as an enclosure in this context. Rather it is a water basin.

As defined in 60529 the tub can be considered as an enclosure for the parts of the appliance located beneath the tub but it is obviously understood and follows from the requirements throughout the standard that the tub is sufficiently watertight to prevent water from penetrating into area containing live parts and that electrical part of the appliance that are located in the tub are equally water tight.

Delete the last sentence of the proposed text in both line 42 and 43 starting with “the tub/basin…”

See 8

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In this context an IPX7/X8 requirements for the tub is meaningless and will also present considerable practical problems testing appropriately.

20 DK04 42-43 6.2 te The proposed modification sets different requirements for whirlpool baths (IPX4) and whirlpool spa’s (IPX5). The argument is that whirlpool baths could be subject to cleaning with water jets.It is not understood why this should be the case. From a general perspective whirlpool-baths and -spa’s are used and cleaned in the same way and thus same requirements should apply.There may be an underlying assumption that whirlpool spa’s are only used outdoors but that is not always the case. Whirlpool spa’s may also be located and used indoors.If this is the intent behind the differentiation, then a separate requirement, specific for appliances used outdoors should be made.

Modify the proposed text to specify same requirements for IP classification of whirlpool baths and spa’sIf necessary, add additional requirements for appliances for use outdoors

See 8

21 NO01 42 6.2 te We do not understand the background for the IPX7 and IPX8 immersion-tests. What is the purpose? How to perform these tests?In addition, as IPX8 is not described in part 1, clarification of test criteria should be given.

A description of these tests are necessary.

See 8

22 DK05 44-45 6.2 te The requirements for “other appliances” in this context may be misunderstood. For clarity and to prevent misunderstanding some rephrasing is proposed.The strikethrough is following DK02

Modify the text in line 44-45 so that it reads:“Submersible appliances for use with a conventional bath or spa shall be at least IPX8. Other appliances shall be at least IPX5”

See 8

23 NZ03 42-45 6.2 te We do not understand why the Reject the proposal relating to IPX8. See 8

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“tub/basin” has to be IPX7 or IPX8. It is just the part that contains the water, it is not immersed in the water.Also why should appliances used in a conventional bath be IPX8 – we are not aware of conventional baths with a depth of 1 m or more.See swimming pool examples in the Annex.

24 NO02 46-47 6.2 ed To state “at least IPX0” (lowest classification) is not necessary.

Change the text to:“Parts of appliances intended for mounting within the dwelling but outside the zones 0, 1 and 2 as specified in IEC 60364-7-701 and IEC 60364-7-702 shall be at least IPX0 do not need any IP-classification”.

See 8

25 NL02 51 7.12 te The requirement in 7.12 of existing part 2-60 that for portable appliances no part of the appliance is to be located above the bath during use, should also be applicable to whirlpool spas.

Add the following to the proposal:

7.12 Modification:In the second paragraph of the addition add the words ‘or spa’ after the word ‘bath’.

See 8

26 NL03 60 13.1 te Considering the severity of electric shock at appliances under part 2-60, protective impedance and radio interference filters (such as Y-capacitors) shall not be disconnected / removed for the tests of 13.2. The leakage current shall be limited to safe values no matter if the leakage current is due to protective impedances, filter capacitors or leakage through solid insulation. After all it is the total leakage current that, when passing through the human body, causes electric shock. Therefore the total leakage current shall be measured and be below the limits given in 13.2.

Add the following to the proposal:

13.1 Modification:Protective impedance and radio interference filters are disconnected only before carrying out the tests of 13.3.

See 8

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27 NL04 60 13.2 te Leakage current from surfaces / parts that are not accessible by the user (clause 8) but that are accessible by the water (in which the user is immersed) must also be measured. This is however lacking in the current part 2-60.

Add the following to the proposal:

13.2 In part 1 delete the 3rd paragraph and replace the 2nd paragraph by the following:

The leakage current is measured between any pole of the supply and– accessible metal parts intended to be connected to protective earth, for class l appliances;– metal foil having an area not exceeding 20 cm x 10 cm which is in contact with accessible surfaces of insulating materials and metal parts not intended to be connected to protective earth, for class II appliances, class ll constructions and class III appliances. The metal foil has the largest area possible on the surface under test without exceeding the dimensions specified. If its area is smaller than the surface under test, it is moved to test all parts of the surface. The heat dissipation of the appliance is not to be affected by the metal foil;– metal foil which is in contact with surfaces of insulating materials, and unearthed metal parts, that are in contact with the water of the bath or spa in normal use, for class II appliances, class ll constructions and class III appliances. The metal foil shall have such an area that it covers the whole surface of the part in contact with the water. The heat dissipation of the appliance is not to be affected by the metal foil.

See 8

28 NL05 60 16.1 te Considering the severity of electric shock at appliances under part 2-60,

Add the following to the proposal: See 8

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protective impedance shall not be disconnected / removed for the tests of 16.2. The leakage current shall be limited to safe values no matter if the leakage current is due to protective impedances, filter capacitors or leakage through solid insulation. After all it is the total leakage current that, when passing through the human body, causes electric shock. Therefore the total leakage current shall be measured and be below the limits given in 13.2.

16.1 Modification:Protective impedance is disconnected from live parts only before carrying out the tests of 16.3.

29 NL06 60 16.2 te Leakage current from surfaces / parts that are not accessible by the user (clause 8) but that are accessible by the water (in which the user is immersed) shall also be measured. This is however lacking in the current part 2-60.

Add the following to the proposal:

16.2 Modification:Add the following as a third dashed item to the text of the first paragraph in part 1:– metal foil which is in contact with surfaces of insulating materials, and unearthed metal parts, that are in contact with the water of the bath or spa in normal use, for class II appliances, class ll constructions and class III appliances.

See 8

30 NL07 60 16.2 te Due to the low body impedance of a person immersed in water doubling of the limit values shall not be applied.

Add the following to the proposal:

16.2 Modification:Delete the fourth paragraph in part 1.

See 8

31 CA01 64 22.33 - te The proposal suggests to delete the second paragraph of the original addition to 22.33. The CANC does not believe that is correct as these requirements are still valid and necessary to clarify what types of circuits are allowed in accessible controls.

Replace line 64 of the proposal with the following:“Delete the first paragraph and note of the addition”.

See 8

32 CH06 64 22.33 Te By deleting the second paragraph, the severity of the requirements will be

Don't change the second paragraph:” Parts such as switches and

See 8

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reduced. There is a lack of arguments to justify this.

controls accessible to the user in the whirlpool bath or whirlpool spa shall only be supplied at safety extra-low voltage not exceeding 12 V.”

33 NL08 64 22.33 te An error has occurred in 22.33 to delete the entire addition. The NLNC had the intent to only delete the 1st paragraph including note 101.

Replace line 64 by the following:

Delete the 1st paragraph and note 101 of the addition.

See 8

34 NL09 63-64 22.33 te The existing requirement in the 2nd paragraph of the addition in part 2-60 should be extended for electric parts that are mounted in the walls of the tub / basin of whirlpools baths or spas (such as lamps) since any energized part in the tub/basin (zone 0) shall be of class III construction with a voltage not exceeding 12 V.

Add the following to the proposal:

22.33 Replace the second paragraph of the addition by the following:

Parts mounted in the basin or in walls of the basin, such as lamps or luminaires, and parts accessible to the user in the whirlpool bath or whirlpool spa such as switches and controls, shall only be supplied at safety extra-low voltage not exceeding 12 V.

See 8

35 DK06 64 22.33 te The second paragraph of the addition specifying that“parts such as switches and controls accessible to the user…. shall only be supplied at SELV not exceeding 12V” is still relevant and should not be deleted

Modify the proposed text to read:“Delete the first paragraph of the addition including the note”

See 8

36 FR04 22.33 All clause te It is proposed to refer to IEC 60364-7-702 which allows a contact between a part supplied at SELV and the liquid.There is no need to delete clause 22.33 from risk perspective.

Keep clause 22.33 without modification

See 8

37 NZ04 64 22.33 te We do not agree with this deletion as it Reject the proposal See 8

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would for example prevent control switches being accessible to the user while they are using the appliances. It is not in conflict with 8.1.4

38 US04 61-66 22.33 te Deleting the Addition to Clause 22.33 in IEC 60335-2-60 would have unintended consequences for the pool and spa industry. In addition to whirlpool baths and whirlpool spas, this standard has been used for related products that provide health and sanitization benefits such as electrolytic chlorine generation systems which use electrolysis to produce chlorine from the dissolved salt in the pool water and sanitization automation systems which rely on probes immersed in the pool or spa water to measure water chemistry and make appropriate adjustments to maintain water quality.

These technologies have been used successfully for 30+ years. In the absence of any other Part 2 standard, the “addition” in Clause 22.33 in 60335-2-60 has provided a -2 means for recognizing these technologies. The parts of the product that are in contact with water are low voltage as specified in Clause 22.33 of 60335-2-60. These products incorporate appropriate methods such as double insulation, safety isolation transformer, etc. for isolating the mains from the water contact points

If the existing “addition” were to be removed, it could potentially eliminate these important technologies that provide beneficial health and

Keep the “Addition” for Clause 22.33 as currently stated in IEC 60335-2-60

See 8

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sanitization to millions of swimming pools and spas worldwide.

39 DK07 69 22.106 te The proposed addition will require that metal parts in contact with the water shall be both connected to earth AND also be separated from live parts by double/reinforced insulation (for heating elements consisting of at least three layers).This is a uniquely harsh requirement the need for which is questionable. The DK NC welcome an additional discussion of this point.

Discuss the need for this requirement further.

See 8

40 NZ05 71 22.106 ed The word “additionally” is redundant Reject the proposal See 8

41 US05 81-82 25.1 te The wording in parenthesis should be deleted as it should be covered as a construction requirement in 22.33

Delete “(voltage shall not exceed 12 V)”

See 8

DECISION: The ahG formed during the meeting developed a letter that will be sent to IEC TC 64 to request that a formal decision of TC 64 is requested, considering the opinion of NCs in the TC, and that the decision shall be clarified in an amendment to the applicable standard (60364-7-701 or 60364-7-702) to eliminate the uncertainties on whether 60364-7-701 or 60364-7-702 shall be applied to whirlpool SPAs.

Based on the answer to be received from IEC TC 64, TC 61 will determine whether to form a WG to review the scope of 60335-2-60 and application of the standard for different appliances and develop modifications to be covered in a new DC for 60335-2-60. This will include addressing the clarification from IEC TC 64, updates needed for the proposal from NL NC and the additional proposals being developed by AU NC.

As a result of these actions, it was agreed to postpone the Stability Date for 60335-2-60 to 2022.

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50. IEC 60335-2-75: Particular requirements for commercial dispensing appliances and vending machines 50b. 61/5967A/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6120/INF Switzerland, Direct resistance heating unitAlso taking into consideration 61(2020Web/CHNC)106, 61(2020Web/CHNC)107The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6120A/INF

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1 CH01 ge The CH NC strongly supports this proposal with the following comment(s).

Noted

2 GB01 ge The British National Committee supports this proposal without comment.

Noted

3 AU01 ge We are against the proposal as we do not believe any of the options will provide the protective separation as required in IEC 61140.

Delete the proposal Not accepted.Concept 1 described in 61(2020Web/CHNC)107 refers to IEC 61140 cl. 5.4.3 regarding protective separation between the hazardous-live-parts, the mains, and the accessible parts by eithera. double or reinforced

insulation or,b. basic insulation and

protective screening (IEC 61140 cl. 5.3.4). Whereas the protective screen is interposed between the hazardous-live-parts and the accessible in- and outlets (the parts being protected).This option is only allowed in stationary class I appliances.

and 5.4.5 that deals with protective impedance device that shall reliably limit the touch current.

The construction covered in the proposal is similar to the constructions covered

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by 60335-2-115 when dealing with appliances with electrodes.

4 DK01 ge The DK NC does not agree in this proposal and at least in the way it is phrased we do not believe it is sufficiently mature to provide the necessary level of safety of appliances using this construction.

We also do not quite understand how the proposed constructions can practically operate.

See 3 and 5.A practical operation of the proposed construction is outlined in the rationale of the proposal.

5 NZ01 ge We are against this proposal since safety relies on the water conductivity being below a specific value. Also it does not meet the requirement for Class I appliances in 7.3 of IEC 61140 which is a basic safety publication.There are many areas of the world where the water conductivity may be above the specified value and hence a safety issue will exist.As a consequence, this proposal should not be included in the International standard. It is a proposal for national use in those countries that have water supplies that can meet the specified conductivity requirements.The same issue applies in Part 2-35 for instantaneous water heaters incorporating bare element water heaters. Requirements for these types of instantaneous water heaters is also a national issue and should be removed from the international standard.

Delete the proposal. Not accepted. Concept 1

(61(2020Web/CHNC)107) relies on the “Protection by limitation of steady-state touch current and charge” (IEC 61140 cl. 6.9), which provides the construction's safety regardless of the liquid conductivity by supplying the electrodes with a protective impedance device.

Concept 1 (61(2020Web/CHNC)107) also includes a class I construction according to IEC 61140 cl. 7.3, where all conductive parts are separated from hazardous-live-parts and the mains, by at

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least basic insulation and the exposed-conductive-parts are connected to the protective conductor terminal.

6 NZ02 1 te Refer to our “ge” comment – we do not support this proposal

Delete the proposal. See 3 and 5

7 CH02 4 1 Note 101 ed Follow formatting rules. Format “electrode-type water heaters” in bold.

Accepted

8 DK02 8 3.1XX te The definition does not provide sufficient clarity. It is assumed that the intent is to define a unit that heats the water via the electrical conductivity of the water itself as described in the rationale. However apart from the word “direct” this definition may just as well cover a heating unit using an ordinary resistive heating element.The word “direct” is not sufficient to clearly describe the intent type of heating without the support of the rationale and so it may cause misunderstandings.

Modify the definition to provide a clearly understandable description of the relevant heating principle.

The comment was referring to the 61/5967/DC and the item has been addressed with the rephrasing in 61/5967A/DC.

9 DK03 13 3.3XX te The term “protective impedance” is already defined in IEC 60335-1 and although associable this is a different definition and “device”.Therefor the use of the term “protective impedance” as part of this new definition is not appropriate and may lead to misunderstandings.

Modify the define term to avoid the use of “protective impedance” as part of the term.

The comment was referring to 61/5967/DC and the definition was removed in 61/5967A/DC

10 DK04 19-20 6.1 te Cl. 6.1 provide the classification of the overall appliance and not to individual constructions and methods of protection employed as part of the appliance.If there is a need for requiring particular

Keep the reference in cl. 6.1 to the overall appliance classification and defer any detailed requirements regarding to the respective clauses throughout the standard.

The comment was referring to 61/5967/DC and the safety requirements are now in cl. 22 in the 61/5967A/DC and are

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details of appliance construction with regards to protection against shock, this should be deferred to cl. 8 and/or cl. 22.

It is further not clear what is meant by the proposed addition. If used in a class I appliance direct resistance heating units shall be class I whereas they are otherwise allowed to be class II or cl. III constructions. This does not seem to make any sense. For example, why can a direct resistance heating unit not be of a class III construction if they are used in a class I appliance?

independent of the appliance classification.

11 NO01 14-16 7.1 te It is not to be expected that the user of these appliances will know anything about the conductivity of the liquid.

Either delete this addition or require that the appliance itself shall measure and indicate this value.

Accepted. Clause 7.1 will be deleted.

12 SE001 14-16 7.1 te We are not sure if this marking requirement is useful.How can the user obtain information on conductivity of the liquid?

See 11

13 DK05 30-33 13.2 te The requirement only provide specification for direct heating units that are cl. I. No specifications are provided for other constructions although these appear to be allowed by cl. 6.1

Please include specifications to cover constructions other than cl. I

Clause 13.2 from 61/5967/DC was removed in 61/5967A/DC, and the test will be done in accordance with Part 1.

14 DK06 41-44 16.2 te The requirement only provide specification for direct heating units that are cl. I. No specifications are provided for other constructions although these appear to be allowed by cl. 6.1

Please include specifications to cover constructions other than cl. I

Clause 16.2 from 61/5967/DC was removed in 61/5967A/DC, and the test will be done in accordance with Part 1.

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15 DK07 49 19.X te The term “protective electronic circuit” is already defined in IEC 60335-1.According to the “rationale” and introduction of this proposal, a “protective electronic circuit” is a circuit that monitors “touch current” and limits this to be in accordance with cl. 8.1.4 or 13.2This is quite different from the existing definition of the same terms and therefor this term cannot be used as in the context of this proposal.

Rephrase the proposal to refrain from using the term “protective electronic circuit” in the context as proposed.

The comment was referring to 61/5967/DC. The reference to PEC is now in 22.X.5.4 of 61/5967A/DC.

16 DK08 49 19.X1 te The requirement only provide specification for direct heating units that are cl. I. However, it seems that the requirements would be at least equally relevant for other than cl. I constructions.

Please include constructions other than cl. I in the specification.

The comment was referring to 61/5967/DC and in 61/5967A/DC there is no reference to Class I.

17 DK09 29-31 22.33 te Considering that only the electrodes of a direct heating unit are connected through devices that control the associated leakage current, it will be necessary to specifically limit the allowance for direct contact of water with live parts only to the electrodes of a direct heating unit and not for any other part of such appliance.

Additionally, the specification that the inlet and outlets being connected to the earthing terminal seems to contradict with allowance in cl. 6.2 for using cl. II constructions

Rephrase he requirement so that only the electrodes are allowed to be in contact with water.

Not accepted, as the comment was referring to the 61/5967/DC. It was addressed with the rephrasing in 61/5967A/DC.

18 NZ03 22.33 te Refer to our “ge” comment – we do not support this proposal

Delete the proposal. See 3 and 5

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19 DK10 80-83 22.XX te The text is not clearly understandable and does not appear to be complete. It also provides confusions regarding the terms. Here the device limiting the touch current is indicated as a “protective impedance device” whereas in line 49 the term “protective electronic circuit” is used for what appear to be the same device.

Rephrase the text to ensure clear an unambiguous text and requirement.

The comment was referring to 61/5967/DC and 61/5967A/DC has rephrased the sentence.

20 DK11 85-86 22.XX te Same contradiction as indicated in DK 09. Sentence is not complete. “reliably connected to what?

Clarify requirement The comment was referring to 61/5967/DC and 61/5967A/DC has rephrased the sentence.

21 DK12 89-91 22.XX te The meaning of the terms used is not clear. But as we understand the meaning, the DK NC does not believe that appropriate level of safety can be maintained with this exemption.

Delete line 89-91 The comment was referring to 61/5967/DC and 61/5967A/DC has rephrased the sentence.

22 NZ04 22.x.1 te The design (22.X.1) does not meet the requirement for protective separation in 5.4.3 of IEC 61440.

Delete the proposal. See 3

23 NZ05 22.x.2 te For the design (22.X.2) the bonded pipes shall be connected to the protective earthing terminal.

Delete the proposal. Not accepted.The requirement of clause 22.X.1 defines the insulation required for the two types of constructions in line with the IEC 61140, protective separation (cl. 3.24 and cl. 5.3.4): Basic insulation & the

bonded pipes of 22.X.2 are connected to the protective earthing terminal as per requirement 22.X.3, resulting in a protective screening, or double or

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reinforced insulation, which does not require a protective earthing.

24 NZ06 22.x.3 te The design construction (22.X.3) is covered by our comment on the design of 22.X.2. The leakage current test should be in 13.2.Three phase appliances shall not be allowed since there is no account taken of loss of a phase.

Delete the proposal. Not accepted.This test is only to verify the proper functionality of the earthing of the inlets and outlets. The leakage current test of the appliance, including the electrode-type heater, is done in 13.2.Figure XX2 will be updated to be in line with Figure 4 of the IEC 60035-1 ed6.0. Clause 22.X.3 will be adapted to align with the fifth paragraph of 13.2 of 60335-1 Ed 6.0, “For three-phase with neutral…”.

25 NZ07 22.x.5.1 te For the design (22.X.5.1) we do not agree to replace the 8.1.4 limit by the 13.2 limit.

Delete the proposal. Accepted to delete lines 72-74.

26 AU02 22.X.5.2 te This is an un acceptable relaxation Delete line 82 Accepted

27 NZ08 22.x.5.2 te The design (22.X.5.2) does not meet the requirements for protective impedance in 22.27 and 22.42 of Part 1.

Delete the proposal. See 26

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28 AU03 22.X.5.3 te This clause should require an Isolation transformer

Delete reference to “transformer or a switch mode power supply unit” and refer to isolation transformer complying to IEC 61558-2-4:2009

Accepted to delete reference to “switch mode power supply unit.”

As stated in the IEC 61558 series, the definition of a transformer has an internal operating frequency below 500Hz. Transformers with an internal operating frequency above 500Hz are classified as switch mode power supplies.

The IEC 60335 series does not differentiate these cases and allows transformers to be operated with an internal operating frequency greater than 500Hz.

It was agreed 22.X.1 defines the required isolation. Therefore, the required transformer, separating (basic insulation) or isolating (double or reinforced insulation), should depend on that requirement.

In alignment with 60335-2-115 it was agreed to add the following:Isolating transformer additions:

Add IEC 61558-2-4 in normative references of Clause 2.

Also, add in 24.1.2 “The

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relevant standard for isolating transformers is IEC 61558-2-4. If they have to be tested, they are tested in accordance with Annex XX1”.

Add a definition of isolating transformer by using the term definition text of 3.4.3 but add “a voltage higher than” before “safety extra-low voltage”.

Add a new Annex XX1 using the text of Annex BB from IEC 60335-2-29 Ed 5.1.

Separating transformer additions:

Add IEC 61558-2-1 in normative references of Clause 2.

Also, add in 24.1.2 “The relevant standard for separating transformers is IEC 61558-2-1. If they have to be tested, they are tested in accordance with Annex XX2”.

Add a definition of separating transformer by using the term definition text of 3.4.3 but add “a voltage higher than” before “safety extra-low voltage” and replace “double insulation or reinforced insulation” with “basic insulation”.

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29 NZ09 22.x.5.3 te The transformer used in the design for 22.X.5.3 shall be an isolating transformer.

Delete the proposal. See 28

30 NZ10 22.x.5.4 te The design (22.X.5.4) does not meet the requirement in 6.2 of IEC 61140 – refer to definition 3.18 in IEC 61140. It means disconnection of the line conductor in the supply system using an isolation device meeting 8.4 of IEC 61140. This concept cannot be used in the IEC 60335 series – see the text of the Note in 19.1.

Delete the proposal. Accepted to delete 22.X.5.4.

DECISION: The CHNC will develop a 2DC. Before circulating the 2DC, the proposal is to be shared with MT23 for guidance and comments on the proposal, if possible, for the next meeting of MT23 on 10 December 2020.

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55. IEC 60335-2-120: Particular requirements for electric heaters for tobacco products (EHTP)55a. 61/5952/NP – Report of Voting 61/6058/RVN Japan, new Part 2 standardAlso taking into consideration 61(2020Web/ISOTC126)57, 61(2020Web/ISOTC126)86, 61(2020Web/JPNC)114The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6058A/RVN

The following compilation includes the combined compilation of comments for 61/6058A/RVN and 61/6059A/INF (agenda item 55b). Comments shaded in gray are comments submitted for 61/5952/NP. The individual compilations will be circulated when the A documents are finalized; they are shown here combined since they were presented in this manner for ease in review by the TC during the web meeting.

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1 CH01 ge The CH NC supports this document with the following comments.

Noted

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2 CH01 ge The CH NC supports this proposal with the following comment(s).

Noted

2a CH02 ge Create a common project team for both projects, 61/5952/NP and 61/5953/NP and encourage this team to review all technical aspects presented in the draft.

Accepted. It was agreed to combine the NPs in a single NP under new PT 60335-2-120 with Co-convenorship by Mr. Yusuke Suzuki, JPNC, and Mr. Flore Chiang, USNC.

3 AU01 We vote against this proposal. In all states and territories in Australia, it is illegal to sell, possess or use e-cigarettes that contain nicotine. The 60335 series of standards has always looked to keep the user of the appliance safe. The function of these appliances poses a known and serious risk to the health of users that can only be overcome by not using them. If a standard is really required it should be standardised under a different committee, perhaps relating to medical or therapeutic goods .

Reject the NP Not accepted.

The report to Council Board from CAB meeting 48, held virtually on 2020-11-09/10, as reported in SMB/7159/INF, was noted. It was also confirmed that from the side of the IEC there is no opposition from the ethical point of view (known danger to the health) on the development of standards addressing these types of appliances.

It was confirmed by USNC that the US NP was not backed by the tobacco industry. It was confirmed by JPNC that the JP NP was not backed by the tobacco industry.

The draft standard scope shall cover electrical safety of heaters for tobacco products and battery-operated vaping appliances supplied by batteries and related risks but will not cover effects of steam

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generated from tobacco units or nicotine.

4 AU01 In all states and territories in Australia, it is illegal to sell, possess or use e-cigarettes that contain nicotine.

Reject the DC. Or add a construction requirement that the product must contain a nicotine detection circuit that shuts down the product on detection of nicotine exceeding 0.05 mg /ml of e-liquid.

To be considered by the Project Team, which will evaluate the following three options: 1) No measuring device, 2) provide a measuring device without giving limits, or 3) provide a measuring device with a limit.

If option 1) will be chosen by the project team, then clear instructions shall be given on the packaging of the consumable to warn the user on the potential health effects caused by nicotine.

5 DE01 ge As ISO/TC 126 officially works on ISO/NP 23986 it should be considered to build a joint working group between IEC and ISO/TC 126 to deal with the issue in common to avoid redundant activities. The document shall be added proposal (IEC/NP) to the work program.

Accepted

6 FI01 ge The Finnish NC is in favour of this New Work Item Proposal but we are suggesting to combine documents 61/5952/NP and 61/5953/NP into the same standard e.g. IEC 60335-2-120.

Consider to combining PNW 61-5952 and PNW 61-5953.

See 2a

7 GB01 ge The subject of this proposal is of importance to UK Industry. However, we do not currently have an expert to nominate.

Noted.

8 IT01 ge The Italian NC is in favour of proposed document 61/5952/NP and appoints the participation of the following Italian expert in the work of the future New

Noted.

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Project Team:

Mr Gabrio SPINELLIE-mail: [email protected]: +39 039 9280293

In add, the Italian NC submits the following comment:

9 IT02 ge Considering that appliances of this document NP are very similar to the appliances of the other new project proposal 61/5953/NP, it is preferable to constitute only one Project Team for both appliances deal by the two different NP. In add we suggest considering the possibility to include both appliances quoted in 61/5952/NP and 61/5953/NP in a single standard instead separate them in two different standards.

See 2a

10 NL01 ge The NLNC supports the establishment of a standard for electric heaters for tobacco products (EHTP), however we believe it should be combined with the standard for portable vaping devices. In the presentation of JP the EHTP included both heated tobacco (HTP) as well as vaping devices (e-cig).

The build op of the standards part 2-120 (61/6002/DC) and part 2-121 (61/5953/NP) differ significantly. We cannot imagine the portable appliance part to be mains connected. Therefor the NLNC believes the focus is on battery safety. Instead of creating all kinds of requirements the NLNC believes this part 2 for EHTP should be linked (read)

Delete proposal and combine this proposal for electric heaters for tobacco products with proposal for portable vaping devices.

The combined documents should be issued as a DC.

See 2a

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with the IEC 60335-1 edition 6 in which Annex B has substantially revised.

11 NL01 ge The NLNC supports the establishment of a standard for tobacco products Part 2-120, however we believe it should be combined with the standard for portable vaping devices Part 2-121. In the presentation of JP the EHTP included both heated tobacco (HTP) as well as vaping devices (e-cig).

The build op of the standards part 2-120 (61/6002/DC) and part 2-121 (61/5953/NP) differ significantly. We cannot imagine the portable appliance part to be mains connected. Therefor the NLNC believes the focus is on battery safety. Instead of creating all kinds of requirements the NLNC believes this part 2 for EHTP should be linked (read) with the IEC 60335-1 edition 6 in which Annex B has substantially revised.

Change proposal to link it with IEC 60335-1 edition 6 and combine this proposal for portable vaping devices with proposal for electric heaters for tobacco products.

The combined documents should be issued as a DC.

See 2a and referred to PT for alignment to 60335-1 ED6.

Accepted

12 NO01 ge As a discussion is going on within IECEE/WG 29 if IECEE at all shall be involved in certification of such products, we think this should be clarified before starting development of a standard.

See 3

13 NZ01 te We vote against this proposal because the function of these appliances pose a known and serious risk to the health of users that can only be overcome by not using them. Hence they should not be standardised. Approval of this NP will bring the reputation of the IEC into disrepute.

Delete the NP See 3

14 NZ01 ge We do not agree with this proposal for the reasons given in our negative vote

Reject the DC See 3

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on 61/5952/NP.Also some of the requirements proposed in the DC amplify and reinforce our opposition to the NP

15 US01 te We support the NP. With respect to 61/5953/NP, we believe a single PT can be created to draft a Part 2 for tobacco appliances. We propose the Project Leader be Flore Chiang from the USNC.

See 2a

16 US01 1 ge There are two proposals sharing the identical scope that will cause confusion. See CC/61/5952/NP and CC/61/5953/NP. There should be a single document.

To form a single Project Team and consolidate two drafts into a single document.

See 2a

17 US02 ge This Part 2 must address all possible hazardous scenarios that could take place in the real world. There are several reports (e.g., E-cigarettes: an evidence update, by Public Health England, UK; Electronic Cigarette Fires and Explosions in the United States 2009 – 2016, by U.S. Fire Administration, US) evidenced that e-cig and vaping devices pose a unique, unprecedent, risk to consumers due to close proximity and high energy lithium batteries. Although incidents were rare, they were life-changing for the victims. Based on the data from FEMA, 20% of the injuries were severe, namely, the victims required immediate hospitalization and may have suffered loss of a body part, 3rd degree burn or severe facial injuries. Likewise, 41% of injuries were moderate, i.e., victims required treatment in the emergency room for smoke inhalation, 2nd degree burn or lacerations needing stitches. Unlike other consumer electronics, the risk of battery fire or explosion has

The draft shall address internal short-circuit due to mechanical stresses, wide range of operating temperatures (e.g., very cold/hot where thermal runaway and lithium plating could occur) taking into account the world geography and mechanical abuses that are expected throughout the lifespan of the devices.

Replace 5.7 with the following:5.7 Replacing the first paragraph with the following:Unless otherwise specified, for functional parts incorporating the battery(ies), the tests of Clauses 11 and 19 are carried out at the most unfavourable ambient temperature within the range of 0 °C to 25 °C.

Add the following to Annex B:B.11.101 Replacement of first dashed item of the compliance statement:− if the appliance is capable of

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escalated from individual to public (e.g., e-cig exploded in a crowded elevator or in an airplane). The general consensus among regulators has been that the most stringent requirements shall be applied to such devices. This draft does not address internal short-circuit due to mechanical stresses, wide range of operating temperatures (e.g., very cold/hot), mechanical abuses. Also, it’s heavily relied upon the data provided by the manufacturers that may apply different, non-standardized test methods, not adhered to ISO lab quality programs. Many of the requirements seem to be extracted from ANSI/CAN UL 8139 but in a loosened, arbitrary form, not in its entirety.

operation at a temperature of -20 +0/-5°C the test is conducted at that temperature; if not operable, the test is conducted at the lowest ambient temperature recommended for charging but no lower than 0 +0/- 5°C

Modify Clause 21 as follows:21 Mechanical strengthThis clause of Part 1 is not applicable except as follows:21.1Replacement of 1st paragraph of compliance statement:Compliance is checked as follows and by the test of B.21.201.Replacement of 4th and 5th paragraph of compliance statement:An appliance with the most unfavourable consumable / consumable-load as specified in the manufacturer’s instructions shall be subjected to test free-fall – procedure 1, of IEC 60068-2-31 following pre-conditioning without consumables for 3 h at a temperature of -35 +0/-5 oC and then 1 h at a temperature of 25 ±5°C. It shall be dropped three times from a height of 1,5 m onto a concrete surface. The sample shall be positioned to vary the point of impact. The test is repeated on 3 additional samples. If the appliance is capable of operation following the drops, it is additionally tested under the conditions of Clause 11 at an ambient temperature 25 ±5°C.Following the above tests, the appliance shall not catch fire, leak fluid that is visible from the outside of

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the appliance enclosure or explode and shall meet the requirements of Clauses 20 and 29 and B.22.103.1 and B.22.105 where short circuit of functional insulation will impair compliance with the standard. The open circuit voltages of the dropped cells and an additional reference (undropped) cell are periodically monitored during the following 24 hours. The relative change in the open circuit voltage difference shall not exceed 5%.The relative change in the open circuit voltage difference between a dropped cell and the reference (undropped) cell is calculated as follows:

|(OCV dropped(t=0)−OCV dropped(t=24h ))−(OCV undropped( t=0)−OCV undropped(t=24h))|OCV undropped(t=24h)?

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B.21.201 The functional part of an appliance enclosing the battery is placed on a fixed, flat rigid supporting surface with its lateral axis parallel to the surface. A uniformly distributed compression force of 45.4 kg is vertically applied on the exposed surfaces of the appliance for 1 min, by a flat rigid surface not smaller than 102 by 254 mm parallel to the supporting surface.

18 NZ02 1 te The two dashed items in Note 2 contradict each other.The content of NOTE 4 is in contradiction with the normative requirement in Clause 32 concerning toxic hazard.

These appliance present a serious health hazard to the user that can only be avoided by not using them. There are no tests that can show that a toxic hazard does not exist due to their use.Reject the DC

To be discussed in PT.

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19 CH02 5 to 39 CONTENTS

ed Correct formatting. Update CONTENTS after correction of all headlines.

To be discussed in PT.

20 CH03 85 INTRODUCTION

ed Text of INTRODUCTION is missing. Complete INTRODUCTION with text.

To be discussed in PT.

21 US04 92 1 te The draft is too prescriptive and may only apply to certain type of vaping devices and therefore cannot addresses all variations available in the market.

To be discussed in PT.

22 CH04 95, 96 Scope ed Correct formatting and typos and align text with the principle of other Parts 2.

Replace lines 95 and 96 with the following:This International standard deals with the safety of electric heaters for tobacco products and similar appliances for household use, their rated voltage being not more than 250 V for single-phase appliances connected between one phase and neutral.

To be discussed in PT.

23 CH05 97 to 100

NOTE 1 ed Align text with IEC rules. Replace line 97 to 100 with the following:NOTE 1 to entry: Examples of heating methods are as follows:

heating tobacco leaves directly by an electric heating element; or

heating tobacco leaves indirectly by an electric heating element; or

heating liquid containing nicotine directly by an electric heating element.

To be discussed in PT.

24 NL02 97 1 Note 1 ed The number of the note should be 101 Replace Note 1 by Note 101 To be discussed in PT.

25 CH06 101 to 114

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Replace line 101 to 114 with the following:As far as practicable, this standard deals with the common hazards presented by appliances that are

To be discussed in PT.

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encountered by all persons in and around the home. However, in general, it does not take into account

persons (including children) whose

physical, sensory or mental capabilities; or

lack of experience and knowledge

prevents them from using the appliance safely without supervision or instruction;

children playing with the appliance.

NOTE 2 to entry: Attention is drawn to the fact that

for appliances intended to be used in vehicles or on board ships or aircraft, additional requirements can be necessary;

in many countries, additional requirements are specified by national health authorities, the national authorities responsible for the protection of labour, the national water supplies authorities and similar authorities;

in many countries, for persons under a certain age, using electric heaters for tobacco products and similar appliances for household use and smoking is prohibited by law.

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NOTE 3 to entry: This standard does not apply to heaters for tobacco products heated by heat sources like carbon, char coal, coal, wood and similar non-electric heating elements.NOTE 4 to entry: Health effects of using electric heaters for tobacco products are not considered in this standard.

26 NL03 102-108

1 Note 2 te The note should not be a note Transfer the note 2 into normative text and harmonize the text with other parts 2.

This standard deals with the reasonably foreseeable hazards presented by appliances that are encountered by all persons in and around the home. However, in general, it does not take into account – persons (including children)

whose • physical, sensory or mental

capabilities; or• lack of experience and

knowledge prevents them from using the appliance safely without 61 supervision or instruction;

children playing with the appliance.

To be discussed in PT.

27 GB01 104 1 Scope - te Conditions of use by a person who does not meet the age of smoking specified by law are not specified by the draft standard.Manufacturers cannot absolve themselves of liability based on the use of a product prohibited by law.

Delete this line To be discussed in PT.

28 NL04 109 1 te Introduce a note 102 covering the Add the following: To be discussed in PT.

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additional requirements by national authorities stuff. NOTE 102 Attention is drawn to the

fact that in many countries, additional requirements are specified by the national health authorities and the national authorities responsible for the protection of consumer, including those that address

− consumables such as tobacco, wrapping tissue, filter and other particulate matter inhaled during use;

− substances in the emissions from the operation of the devices such as heavy metal emissions in the aerosol and environmental exposure;

the physiological effects of any consumable used with the devices.

29 NL05 110 1 Note 3 ed The number of the note should be 103 Replace Note 1 by Note 103 To be discussed in PT.

30 GB02 114 1 Scope - te The draft standard does consider health effects due to inhalation of combusted products.

Add Note 5 Detrimental health effects due to the inhalation of combusted products are not included in the safety scope of this standard.

To be discussed in PT.

31 GB04 126 2 Normative references

- ed Add IEC 60950-1 to the Normative references as it is cited in Annex B

IEC 60950-1, Information technology equipment — SafetyPart 1: General requirements

To be discussed in PT.

32 GB03 127 2 Normative references

- ed Correct the title of IEC 62368-1 Change line to ‘Safety requirements ‘ To be discussed in PT.

33 US05 126 Normative references

ed Wrong title. IEC 62368-1, Audio/video, information and communication technology equipment - Part 1: Safety requirements

To be discussed in PT.

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34 US06 132 3.1.9 te How do we ensure gauge R&R if we permit a wide range of operating parameters? Test results will vary. Operating the devices under no-load state does not represent the actual use conditions. It’s not appropriate to define general test conditions in Clause 3, terms and definitions, instead, it should be part of Clause 5, general conditions for the tests.

The proposed puffing cycle is based on the big data extracted from a data set of 403,000 recorded sessions out of 750 devices used by consumers in the market. The general misconception with puffing regime used in ISO 3308, i.e., 35/55 mL once every 60s/30s is that, this smoking regime is intended to measure the cigarette content and emissions, however, the purpose of this standard is to address electrical safety (not chemical toxicity), in this sense, the worst-case smoking regime representing actual consumer behaviours shall be used, e.g., very rare smoker would stop smoking for an interval of 30s or 60s. A recent research by Korea shows that the interval of the most intense/anxious smokers (e.g., during the breaks) can be as low as 4s.

Replace 3.1.9 3.1.9normal operationstate when power is supplied to the equipment and it is operated under the following conditions where electric heaters for tobacco products operates in no-load state and within following range- suction volume is 35 to 55 mL- suction time is 2 to 3 seconds- suction interval is 30 to 60 secondswith the batteries of battery-operated appliances shall initially be:

fully discharged if the appliance can perform its intended function while the batteries are being charged;

fully charged if the appliance cannot perform its intended function while the batteries are being charged

and the appliances shall be operated puffing with the most unfavourable consumable / consumable-load as specified in the manufacturer’s instructions.Puffing is a puffing cycle consisting of 15 individual puffs followed by 10 minutes without puffing and then continuously repeating until the consumable is depleted. However, if the batteries are not yet fully discharged, the appliance is operated for an additional 5 puffing cycles without replacing the consumable. Each puff has a volume of 55 mL (1.86 oz) ± 5% drawn over

To be discussed in PT.

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4 seconds at a constant flow rate followed by an interval of 8 seconds.Note to entry: If the standard puffing regime compromises the intended function, the regime may be adjusted accordingly.

35 CH07 134 to 136

3.1.9 ed Correct formatting and typos, clarify conditions and align text with the principle of other Parts 2.

Replace line 134 to 136 with the following:Operation of the appliance when power is supplied, with under no load and under the following conditions:

suction volume is 35 to 55 ml; and

suction time is 3 seconds; and

suction interval is 27 seconds.

To be discussed in PT.

36 AU02 141-145

3.6.101 The definitions of 3.6.101 and 3.6.103 appear to be defining the same part.

Delete 3.6.101 or 3.6.103 To be discussed in PT.

37 US07 141 3.6.101 te The scope is too narrow. For example, many devices in the market neither contain nicotine, nor tobacco (e.g., purely chemical). The acronym EHTP is not used, and yet it does neither match electric heater nor does it improve readability. Technically, the use of vapor is incorrect – in physics, a vapor is a substance in the gas phase at a temperature lower than its critical temperature.

Modify 3.6.1013.6.101electric heaterEHTPdevice that generates nicotine-containing vapor aerosol by directly or indirectly heating tobacco consumables unit with an electric heating element

To be discussed in PT.

38 CH08 142 3.6.101 ed Incomplete term. Insert “for tobacco products” after “electric heater”:

To be discussed in PT.

39 CH09 144 3.6.101 ed Correct formatting and typos. Format “tobacco unit” in bold and insert “a” before it.

To be discussed in PT.

40 CH10 146 3.6.101 ed Correct formatting and typos. Insert a semicolon after “entry”, insert “for tobacco products” after “Electric heaters”, format “Electric

To be discussed in PT.

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heaters” in bold and add a full stop at the end of the Note.

41 US08 147 3.6.102 te The definition seems to accommodate particular technology or product design and is not inclusive of all variations in the market. The definition of 3.6.102 is not frequently used in the standard so shouldn’t be defined.

Delete 3.6.102 To be discussed in PT.

42 CH11 149 3.6.102 ed Correct formatting. Format “heating part” in bold. To be discussed in PT.

43 CH12 151 3.6.102 ed Align text with IEC rules. Insert “to entry” after “NOTE”. To be discussed in PT.

44 CH13 154 3.6.103 ed Improve formulation. Insert “a” after “part that”. To be discussed in PT.

45 CH14 157, 158

3.8.101 ed Improve formulation and align text with the principle of other Parts 2, like IEC 60335-2-11.Check necessity of this defined term since it is not cited throughout the draft.

Replace lines 157 and 158 with the following:compression-molded sheet of wool with thickness of 25+/-2 mm and a specific mass of 4+/-0.4 kg/m2 in the dry condition

To be discussed in PT.

46 CH15 161 3.8.102 ed Improve formulation and align text with the principle of other Parts 2, like IEC 60335-2-11.Check necessity of this defined term since it is not cited throughout the draft.

Replace line 161 with the following:soft, thin and usually translucent tissue used to wrap e.g. fragile items and having a specific mass of between 12 g/m2 and 30 g/m2 in the dry condition

To be discussed in PT.

47 CH03 7 ed Use already known headlines of Subclauses and Annexes.

Replace “4 General requirements” with “4 General requirement”.

To be discussed in PT.

48 CH16 162 4 ed Correction of typo. Insert plural “s” after “requirement”. To be discussed in PT.

49 CH04 8 ed Use already known headlines of Subclauses and Annexes.

Replace “5 General Conditions for tests” with “5 General conditions for the tests”.

To be discussed in PT.

50 CH17 164 5 ed Correction of typo. In “Conditions”; replace capital “C with “c”.

To be discussed in PT.

51 NL06 166-170

6.1 te There is not a need for this clause as it is already covered in part 1.

Delete proposal To be discussed in PT.

52 CH18 167 6 ed Align text with IEC rules. Insert “except as follows” after To be discussed in PT.

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1706.1 ed Correct typos and align text with the

principle of other Parts 2.Replace line 168 to 170 with the following:6.1 Modification:Appliances shall be class 0I, class I, class II or class III.NOTE 1 to entry: Class 0I appliances are allowed only in Japan.

To be discussed in PT.

54 CH20 172 to 173

7 ed Align text with IEC rules. Replace line 172 to 173 with the following:This clause of Part 1 is applicable except as follows.

To be discussed in PT.

55 CH21 174 to 175

7.12 te It is not defined where this addition should be placed to and it is evident that appliances must not be modified by the user.

Delete line 174 to 175. To be discussed in PT.

56 CH22 176 to 178

7.12 te Line 176 to 178 is already covered by Part 1 dealing with class III appliances.

Delete line 176 to 178. To be discussed in PT.

57 CH23 179 7.12 ed By stating “7.101” in line 180, the intention to add a paragraph is already given, hence line 179 can be deleted.

Delete line 179. To be discussed in PT.

58 NL07 180-185

7.101 te This is a part 1 issue Delete proposal To be discussed in PT.

59 CH24 181 to 185

7.101 ed The second part of the paragraph as written is already covered by Part 1 dealing with class III appliances, hence can be deleted. The first part of the paragraph as written can by improved in terms of formulation.

Replace line 181 to 185 with the following:The instructions for electric heaters for tobacco products shall state accessories for safe use of the appliance.

To be discussed in PT.

60 CH05 12 ed Use already known headlines of Subclauses and Annexes.

Replace “9 Start of motor-operated appliances” with “9 Starting of motor-operated appliances”.

To be discussed in PT.

61 CH06 12 ed Use already known headlines of Subclauses and Annexes.

Replace “9 Start of motor-operated appliances” with “9 Starting of motor-

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operated appliances”.62 CH25 195 to

19611.7 ed Correct formatting and typos and align

text with the principle of other Parts 2.Replace line 195 to 196 with the following:Appliances are operated for a duration until steady conditions are established.NOTE 1 to entry: The duration may consist of more than one cycle.NOTE 2 to entry: A cycle consists of a suction time and a suction interval.Note 3 to entry: Steady conditions are considered to be stablished if the temperature rise of any part does not exceed the value determined during the preceding cycle by more than 8 K.

To be discussed in PT.

63 NL08 196 11.8 te No requirements are given for the surface temperatures of the appliances.

Add a table 10x covering surface temperatures

To be discussed in PT.

64 CH07 17 ed Use already known headlines of Subclauses and Annexes.

Replace “14 Transient overvoltage” with “14 Transient overvoltages”.

To be discussed in PT.

65 CH08 18 ed Use already known headlines of Subclauses and Annexes.

Replace “15 Moisture resistance, etc.” with “15 Moisture resistance”.

To be discussed in PT.

66 CH26 212 19.2 ed The CH NC thinks that “Modification” is here the better statement than “Replacement”.

Replace “Replacement” with “Modification”.

To be discussed in PT.

67 CH27 214, 216

19.2 ed Correct typo. Insert a full stop at the end of the sentence (two times).

To be discussed in PT.

68 CH28 217 19 ed By stating “19.101, 19.102 and 19.103”, the intention to add paragraphs is already given, hence line 217 can be deleted.

Delete line 217. To be discussed in PT.

79 CH29 218 to 224

19.101 ed Improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

PT 60335-2-120 is kindly asked to improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

To be discussed in PT.

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70 US09 218 19.101 te DC 20 V is too high for generic USB-powered devices while too low for USB PD 20 V power profile. Overvoltage overcharging and overcurrent overcharging should not be mixed together and should be applied one at a time.

Replace 19.101 with the following:Starting with a fully discharged battery and disconnected from its intended charger, the functional part of the appliance is operated without consumables and supplied at 1,5 times its marked voltage from a power source capable of constant-current continuous charging at the maximum charging current.If self-resetting protective device operates, the supplied voltage is reduced in 10 % increments until the appliance can be operated without the protective device operating.If a non-self-resetting protective device operates, the device is reset and the test is repeated 10-times.Starting with a fully discharged battery and disconnected from its intended charger, the functional part of the appliance is operated without consumables and supplied at the highest of 2 times It or 5 A from a power source capable of constant-current continuous charging at the marked voltage.

To be discussed in PT.

71 CH30 225 to 231

19.102 ed Improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

PT 60335-2-120 is kindly asked to improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

To be discussed in PT.

72 CH31 232 to 245

19.103 ed Improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

PT 60335-2-120 is kindly asked to improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

To be discussed in PT.

73 US10 234 19.103 te The heat will be quickly absorbed by the wrapping felt over the heater so cannot

Modify as follows: To be discussed in PT.

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represent actual hazardous scenario. In other words, the felt becomes a cooler to the heater. The heater should be operated continuously. The control over the influence of wind should be as part of ISO 17025 and be minimized as the device under test is being wrapped.

– electric heater that started operation without suction is wrapped in felt as quickly as possible while operating, and surface temperature of housing is measured in the most unfavorable position in a place free from the influence of wind

74 US11 237 19.103 te The maximum abnormal temperature rise specified in Table 9 should be used. The rationale behind 150°C is not clear.

Modify as follows:– surface temperature shall not exceed 150 ° C the applicable value in Table 9, however this excludes following equipment that has taken measures to prevent as much as possible the dangers of fire and events that could harm the user due to unexpected heating

To be discussed in PT.

75 US12 241 19.103 te Compliance criteria are ambiguous. Multiple number of operations could be 2 or 100. Likewise, a short time could be a few milliseconds to minutes.

Modify as follows:– heating is not performed unless multiple number of operations are performed in a short time actuation requires a particular action to be repeated a minimum of two times in succession within 2 s

To be discussed in PT.

76 US13 243 19.103 te Compliance criteria are ambiguous. Modify as follows:– does not heat unless different operations are performed simultaneously or sequentially actuation requires the application of a minimum of two independent and simultaneous movements

To be discussed in PT.

77 US14 244 19.103 te What the minimum suction should we apply? Would it be accidentally triggered by breeze? All pressure-differential-activated devices operate at a minimum pressure difference and therefore shall be defined.

Modify as follows:– does not heat without suction actuation requires a volume flow rate not less than 4 ml/sec

To be discussed in PT.

78 CH32 249 21 ed Correct typo. Insert a full stop at the end of the sentence.

To be discussed in PT.

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79 US03 ge There are many field incidents involved in accidental short-out of spare batteries (example) causing severe, large-area skin burn, or fire in an airplane that must be addressed.

Add the following to Clause 22:22 ConstructionThis clause of Part 1 is applicable except as follows:B.22.201 Appliances shall not be constructed with provision for detachable or separable batteries B.22.202 The battery compartment intended for a user-replaceable integral battery shall only permit installation of the battery specified by the manufacturer.B.22.203 The battery compartment shall prohibit user replacement of cells.

To be discussed in PT.

80 CH33 253 to 256

22.36 ed Improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

PT 60335-2-120 is kindly asked to improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

To be discussed in PT.

81 CH34 257 22 ed By stating “22.101, 22.102, 22.103 and 22.104”, the intention to add paragraphs is already given, hence line 257 can be deleted.

Delete line 257. To be discussed in PT.

82 CH35 258 to 262

22.101 ed Improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

PT 60335-2-120 is kindly asked to improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

To be discussed in PT.

83 NL09 258-261

22.101 te It is not understood how this should be judged and what is the aim of the proposed requirement.Considering parts of the proposal it is assumed that the aim relates to thermal hazards. If this is a concern NLNC believes it is not a matter of incorrect connection of removable connectors but of incorrect power supplies.Anyway it is not clear. It seems also

Delete the proposal To be discussed in PT.

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more a part 1 issue.84 CH36 263 to

27022.102 ed Improve formulation, correct formatting

and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

PT 60335-2-120 is kindly asked to improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

To be discussed in PT.

85 NL10 263-269

22.102 te It is not understood how this should be judged and what is the aim of the proposed requirement.Considering parts of the proposal it is assumed that the aim relates to thermal hazards. If this is a concern NLNC believes it is not a matter of incorrect connection of removable connectors but of incorrect power supplies.Anyway it is not clear. It seems also more a part 1 issue.

Delete the proposal.

If not accepted re-phrase wording “towards direction that minimises harm” into “in a direction away from the user”.

If total deletion is not accepted, then delete “but if determination is not possible, then specification and information supplied by manufacturer shall be used.”

To be discussed in PT.

86 US15 263 22.102 te Is the compliance checked solely upon the data provided by the manufacturer? E-cig and vaping devices pose unprecedent hazards to consumers due to their intimacy – there are hundreds of incidents causing severe injuries such as loss of vision, broken jaws, teeth, and even casualties. This shall not be verified by manufacturers’ self-declaration. The test of B.20.1, with the applicable values from Table B.2 and B.3 according to the capacity, shall be used.

Modify as follows:22.102 electric heaters that incorporate rechargeable batteries must be designed to reduce internal pressure towards direction that minimizes harm, and compliance is checked by inspection, but if determination is not possible, then specification and information supplied by manufacturer shall be used in case of doubt, the test of B.20.1 shall be carried out.

To be discussed in PT.

87 CH37 271 to 275

22.103 ed Improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

PT 60335-2-120 is kindly asked to improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

To be discussed in PT.

88 NL11 271-274

22.103 te NLNC also believed that tissue paper or cheese cloth should be used for the test

Replace by the following:Tobacco unit shall not burn or ignite

To be discussed in PT.

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rather than packing paper.The phrase “and do not allow packaging tissue to burn or ignite” seems odd.The clause is not written in a structured way

the surroundings. Compliance is checked by visual inspection and by the following test.The appliance is operated with the tobacco unit attached to electric heater, the total assembly is placed on a wooden surface covered with a layer of tissue paper and total assembly is also covered with a layer of tissue paper.The test is repeated but instead the tobacco unit is removed and placed on a wooden surface covered with a layer of packaging tissue as soon as possible.The tissue paper shall not burn or ignite.

89 US16 271 22.103 te This test may be replaced by surface temperature test in Clause 11 as the spontaneous ignition temperature (aka autoignition or kindling temperature) of the packaging tissue should be much higher than that capable of causing skin burn. Furthermore, a tobacco unit that could fall out (no longer contained in the device) would be able to be touched by consumers as well.

Modify as follows:22.103 tobacco unit shall not burn or ignite the surroundings after use, and suitability is determined by visual inspection and testing by operating with tobacco unit attached to electric heater, remove the tobacco unit, place it on wooden table covered with a layer of packaging tissue as soon as possible, and do not allow packaging tissue to burn or ignite for temperature measurement. The measured temperature shall not higher than those specified in Table 3.

To be discussed in PT.

90 CH38 276 to 280

22.104 ed Improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

PT 60335-2-120 is kindly asked to improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

To be discussed in PT.

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91 NL12 276-279

22.104 ed The clause is not written in a structured way

Replace by the following:It shall not be possible to access the heating unit during normal use.Compliance is check by inspection and by the following test.Test probe B and test probe 18 of IEC 61032 are applied with a force not exceed 10 N by inserting them into the electric heater opening.

It shall not be possible to touch the heating part of the tobacco unit.

To be discussed in PT.

92 US17 276 22.104 te Parts other than the “heating parts” could be at temperature capable of causing skin burn.

Modify as follows:22.104 during normal use, the structure must be such that heating unit touchable surfaces of electric heater cannot be easily touched and compliance is checked by inserting IEC 60529 inspection probe B with a force of 10 N into the electric heater opening, but inspection probe should not touch the heating part of the tobacco unit.

To be discussed in PT.

93 NL13 283-291

24.1.2 te There is no reason to deviate from part 1. Why is there a need to state “requirements of Clauses 29 and 30.2 of Part 1 do not 290 apply to power supply devices according to IEC 62368-1”

Delete proposal Accepted.

94 NZ03 285-291

24.1.2 te We do not support this replacement due to the reference to IEC 62368-1. The requirements in this standard are much reduced compared with the requirements in IEC 60335-1 particularly with respect to abnormal operation testing, requirements for protective impedance and requirements for triple insulated winding wire in transformers

Delete the replacement for 24.1.2Reject the DC

Accepted

95 CH39 286 to 24.1.2 ed Improve formulation, correct formatting PT 60335-2-120 is kindly asked to To be discussed in PT.

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291 and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

96 CH40 292 24 ed By stating “24.101” in line 293, the intention to add a paragraph is already given, hence line 292 can be deleted.

Delete line 292. To be discussed in PT.

97 CH41 293 to 297

24.101 ed Improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

PT 60335-2-120 is kindly asked to improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

To be discussed in PT.

98 NL14 293-296

24.101 te There is no reason to deviate from part 1. This is covered by clause B.24.1.

Delete proposal To be discussed in PT.

99 CH42 305 28 ed Correct typo. Insert a full stop at the end of the sentence.

To be discussed in PT.

100 CH09 36 ed Improve formulation. Delete “Annex:”. To be discussed in PT.

101 CH010

38 ed Improve formulation and correct formatting.

Replace “NOTE: Annex B would comply with a new ver. of IEC60335-1” with “NOTE Annex B will be aligned with the sixth edition of IEC 60335-1.”.

To be discussed in PT.

102 CH43 319 Annex B ed Align headline with headline of Part 1. Insert “that are recharged in the appliance” after “batteries”.

To be discussed in PT.

103 CH44 321 to 338

Annex B ed Improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

PT 60335-2-120 is kindly asked to improve formulation, correct formatting and typos and align text with IEC rules and the principle of other Parts 2, if applicable.

To be discussed in PT.

104 GB05 326-329

21.B.101 - te This clause permits the use of mains power supplies approved to IEC 62368-1 and IEC 60950-1. As a general rule, 60335 does not allow their use (since they permit a single Y1 capacitor bridging a protective impedance)

Consider deleting this clause.If deleted, remove the two standards from the Normative references

To be discussed in PT.

105 NL15 326- 21.B.101 te Why would the test of 21.B.101 IEC Delete proposal To be discussed in PT.

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330 60335-1 being the free fall test procedure 2 of IEC 60068-2-31 not apply?When reading it with IEC 60335-1 edition 6.0 the free fall test is covered by 21.1 (main part)

106 NZ04 326-329

21.B.101 te We have no idea what the text in 21.B.101 is trying to indicate. But regardless of that statement, we do not accept detachable power supplies that comply with IEC60950-1 or IEC 62368-1 to be used as part of an IEC 60335 series appliance

Delete 21.B.101Reject the DC.

To be discussed in PT.

107 US18 326 21.B.101 te 24.1.2 does not mention IEC 60950-1 but is mentioned here.

Modify as follows:21.B.101 Addition: (Apply the following sentence after the paragraph starting with “To plug directly into an outlet”) and incidentally this does not apply to detachable power supplies that comply with IEC60950-1 or IEC 62368-1 for supplying power to rechargeable batteries of electric heaters.

To be discussed in PT.

108 NL16 331-337

21.B.102 te When reading it with IEC 60335-1 edition 6.0 the drop test is covered by B.21.1 (annex B) which would also apply to the appliance covered by this proposal.

Replace by the following:

21.1 Modification:Hand-held battery-operated appliances shall also be subjected to test free-fall – procedure 1, of IEC 60068-2-31. They shall be dropped three times from a height of 1,5 m onto a concrete surface. The sample shall be positioned to vary the point of impact. Batteries shall be fully charged prior to the test. Hand-held battery-operated appliances employing detachable batteries are tested with and

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without the detachable battery109 US19 336 21.B.102 te The internal short-circuit test cannot be

observed right after the drops and therefore cannot address the actual hazardous scenarios. In the past decade, a number of lithium battery incidents were caused by internal short-circuit due to mechanical stresses (e.g., dropping, manufacturing assembly process) could lead to catastrophic thermal runaway. The evaluation of relative change in open-circuit voltage has been implemented in other IEC product safety standards such as that used for the safety of smartphones, IEC 62368-1, seeing that no immediate fire or explosion does not ensure safety. Most field incidents took place after a few charging/discharging cycles following the mechanical stresses (e.g., drop).

Modify as follows:21.B.102electric heater must have sufficient mechanical strength to withstand drop, and compliance is checked by carrying out natural the drop test. - method 1 of IEC 60068-2-31, 3 times, each dropping in different postures– drop height is 1500 mm– after test, dangerous events such as rupture and ignition that do not comply with this standard shall not occurAn appliance with the most unfavourable consumable / consumable-load as specified in the manufacturer’s instructions shall be subjected to test free-fall – procedure 1, of IEC 60068-2-31 following pre-conditioning without consumables for 3 h at a temperature of -35 +0/-5 oC and then 1 h at a temperature of 25 ±5°C. It shall be dropped three times from a height of 1,5 m onto a concrete surface. The sample shall be positioned to vary the point of impact. The test is repeated on 3 additional samples. If the appliance is capable of operation following the drops, it is additionally tested under the conditions of Clause 11 at an ambient temperature 25 ±5°C.Following the above tests, the appliance shall not catch fire, leak fluid that is visible from the outside of the appliance enclosure or explode

To be discussed in PT.

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and shall meet the requirements of Clauses 20 and 29 and B.22.103.1 and B.22.105 where short circuit of functional insulation will impair compliance with the standard. The open circuit voltages of the dropped cells and an additional reference (undropped) cell are periodically monitored during the following 24 hours. The relative change in the open circuit voltage difference shall not exceed 5%.The relative change in the open circuit voltage difference between a dropped cell and the reference (undropped) cell is calculated as follows:

|(OCV dropped(t=0)−OCV dropped(t=24h ))−(OCV undropped( t=0)−OCV undropped(t=24h))|OCV undropped(t=24h)?

100%

DECISION: It was agreed to combine the NPs into a single NP under new PT 60335-2-120 with Co-convenorship by Mr. Yusuke Suzuki, JPNC, and Mr. Flore Chiang, USNC. An AC will be circulated to clarify the combination of the two NPs under a single PT 60335-2-120, to confirm the co-convenors, to identify the nominated experts from 61/6058/RVN and 61/6060/RVN, and to allow NCs to nominate additional experts.

The draft standard scope shall cover electrical safety of heaters for tobacco products and battery-operated vaping appliances supplied by batteries and related risks, but will not cover health effects of steam generated from tobacco units or nicotine.

It was confirmed by USNC that the US NP was not backed by the tobacco industry. It was confirmed by JPNC that the JP NP was not backed by the tobacco industry.

The report to Council Board from CAB meeting 48, held virtually on 2020-11-09/10, as reported in SMB/7159/INF, was noted. It was also confirmed that from the side of the IEC there is no opposition from the ethical point of view (known danger to the health) on the development of standards addressing these types of appliances. It was also noted that the matter is still under discussion at the SMB level and it is expected to have feedback

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by June 2021. In the report of TC 61 to SMB the essence of this decision and the request to SMB to clarify the approach to be taken by TCs when dealing with ethically sensible products will be noted.

Regarding the liaison request from ISO TC 126 and the presentation by Mr. Takatsugu Hyodo in 61(2020Web/ISOTC 126)86, TC 61 thanked Mr. Hyodo for the presentation proposing a Mode 4 liaison between ISO/TC 126/SC3, ISO/TC 126/WG22 and IEC/TC 61. The ISO/TC 126/SC3 liaison representative will be Mr. Wolfgang Trinkies; the ISO/TC 126/WG22 liaison representative will be Mr. Takatsugu Hyodo; and the IEC/TC 61 liaison representative will be Mr. Yusuke Suzuki (for ISO/TC 126/WG22) and Mr. Flore Chiang (for ISO/TC 126/SC3).

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55. IEC 60335-2-120: Particular requirements for electric heaters for tobacco products (EHTP) 55b. 61/6002/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6059/INFJapan, Supplement to the New Part 2 standardAlso taking into consideration 61(2020Web/ISOTC126)57, 61(2020Web/ISOTC126)86, 61(2020Web/JPNC)114The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6059A/INF

Refer to agenda item 55a for the combined compilation of comments for 61/6058A/RVN and 61/6059A/INF. The individual compilations will be circulated when the A documents are finalized; they are shown here combined since they were presented in this manner for ease in review by the TC during the web meeting.

DECISION: It was agreed to combine the NPs into a single NP under new PT 60335-2-120 with Co-convenorship by Mr. Yusuke Suzuki, JPNC, and Mr. Flore Chiang, USNC. An AC will be circulated to clarify the combination of the two NPs under a single PT 60335-2-120, to identify the co-convenors, to identify the nominated experts from 61/6058/RVN and 61/6060/RVN, and to allow NCs to nominate additional experts.

The draft standard scope shall cover electrical safety of heaters for tobacco products and battery-operated vaping appliances supplied by batteries and related risks but will not cover health effects of steam generated from tobacco units or nicotine.

It was confirmed by USNC that the US NP was not backed by the tobacco industry. It was confirmed by JPNC that the JP NP was not backed by the tobacco industry.

The report to Council Board from CAB meeting 48, held virtually on 2020-11-09/10, as reported in SMB/7159/INF, was noted. It was also confirmed that from the side of the IEC there is no opposition from the ethical point of view (known danger to the health) on the development of standards addressing these types of appliances. It was also noted that the matter is still under discussion at the SMB level and it is expected to have feedback by June 2021. In the report of TC 61 to SMB the essence of this decision and the request to SMB to clarify the approach to be taken by TCs when dealing with ethically sensible products will be noted.

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Regarding the liaison request from ISO TC 126 and the presentation by Mr. Takatsugu Hyodo in 61(2020Web/ISOTC 126)86, TC 61 thanked Mr. Hyodo for the presentation proposing a Mode 4 liaison between ISO/TC 126/SC3, ISO/TC 126/WG22 and IEC/TC 61. The ISO/TC 126/SC3 liaison representative will be Mr. Wolfgang Trinkies; the ISO/TC 126/WG22 liaison representative will be Mr. Takatsugu Hyodo; and the IEC/TC 61 liaison representative will be Mr. Yusuke Suzuki (for ISO/TC 126/WG22) and Mr. Flore Chiang (for ISO/TC 126/SC3).

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56. IEC 60335-2-121: Particular requirements for portable vaping devices 61/5953/NP – Report of Voting 61/6060/RVN United States, new Part 2 standardAlso taking into consideration 61(2020Web/ISOTC126)57, 61(2020Web/ISOTC126)86The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6060A/RVN

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1 CH01 ge The CH NC supports this document with the following comments.

Noted

2 GB01 ge The subject of this proposal is of importance to UK Industry. However, we do not currently have an expert to nominate.

Noted

3 JP01 ge We basically agree with the need for this standard 61/5953/NP. However, it is necessary to consider the following contents.

Noted

4 AU01 We vote against this proposal. In all states and territories in Australia, it is illegal to sell, possess or use e-cigarettes that contain nicotine. The 60335 series of standards has always looked to keep the user of the appliance safe. The function of these appliances poses a known and serious risk to the health of users that can only be overcome by not using them. If a standard is really required it should be standardised under a different

Reject the NP Not accepted.

The report to Council Board from CAB meeting 48, held virtually on 2020-11-09/10, as reported in SMB/7159/INF, was noted. It was also confirmed that from the side of the IEC there is no opposition from the ethical point of view (known danger to the

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committee, perhaps relating to medical or therapeutic goods .

health) on the development of standards addressing these types of appliances.

It was confirmed by USNC that the US NP was not backed by the tobacco industry. It was confirmed by JPNC that the JP NP was not backed by the tobacco industry.

The draft standard scope shall cover electrical safety of heaters for tobacco products and battery-operated vaping appliances supplied by batteries and related risks but will not cover effects of steam generated from tobacco units or nicotine.

5 CH02 ge Create a common project team for both projects, 61/5952/NP and 61/5953/NP and encourage this team to review all technical aspects presented in the draft.

Accepted. It was agreed to combine the NPs in a single NP under new PT 60335-2-120 with Co-convenorship by Mr. Yusuke Suzuki, JPNC, and Mr. Flore Chiang, USNC.

6 FI01 ge The Finnish NC is in favour of this New Work Item Proposal but we are suggesting to combine documents 61/5952/NP and 61/5953/NP into the same standard e.g. IEC 60335-2-120.

Consider to combining PNW 61-5952 and PNW 61-5953.

See 5

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7 IT01 ge The Italian NC is in favour of proposed document 61/5953/NP and appoints the participation of the following Italian expert in the work of the future New Project Team:

Mr Gabrio SPINELLIE-mail: [email protected] Phone: +39 039 9280293

In add, the Italian NC submits the following comment:

Noted

8 IT02 ge Considering that appliances of this document NP are very similar to the appliances of the other new project proposal 61/5952/NP, it is preferable to constitute only one Project Team for both appliances deal by the two different NP. In add we suggest considering the possibility to include both appliances quoted in 61/5952/NP and 61/5953/NP in a single standard instead separate them in two different standards.

See 5

9 NL01 ge The NLNC supports the establishment of a standard for portable vaping devices Part 2-121, however we believe it should be combined with the standard for electric heaters for tobacco products (EHTP) Part 2-120. In the presentation of JP the EHTP included both heated tobacco (HTP) as well as vaping devices (e-cig).

The build op of the standards part 2-120 (61/6002/DC) and part 2-121 (61/5953/NP) differ significantly. We cannot imagine the portable appliance part to be mains connected. Therefor the NLNC believes the focus is on

Change proposal to link it with IEC 60335-1 edition 6 and combine this proposal for portable vaping devices with proposal for electric heaters for tobacco products.

The combined documents should be issued as a DC.

See 5 and referred to PT for alignment to 60335-1 ED6.

Accepted

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battery safety. Instead of creating all kinds of requirements the NLNC believes this part 2 for EHTP should be linked (read) with the IEC 60335-1 edition 6 in which Annex B has substantially revised.

10 NO1 ge As a discussion is going on within IECEE/WG 29 if IECEE at all shall be involved in certification of such products, we think this should be clarified before starting development of a standard.

See 4

11 NZ01 te We vote against this proposal because the function of these appliances pose a known and serious risk to the health of users that can only be overcome by not using them. Any problem that has been experienced with charging the batteries pales into insignificance when compared with the health problems caused by using the appliance. Hence they should not be standardised. Approval of this NP will bring the reputation of the IEC into disrepute.

Delete the NP See 4

12 US01 te We support the NP. With respect to 61/5952/NP, we believe a single PT can be created to draft a Part 2 for tobacco appliances. We propose the Project Leader be Flore Chiang from the USNC.

See 5

13 JP2 45-75 1 ge The scope needs to be fine-tuned. Terms and definitions for battery-operated vaping appliances are still not clear.

Scope of battery-operated vaping appliances and Heated Tobacco Product devices should be considered independently and clearly stated.

To be discussed in PT.

14 NO02 48 1 te It should be clarified that it is the technical safety that are covered.

Change to:”This International Standard deals with the technical safety of battery-operated …“”

To be discussed in PT.

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15 JP03 88-105

102

3.1.9 ge Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.Like other particular requirements, it is not suitable that Vaping Products ones only include the clauses about batteries. It is adequate and appropriate that this clause should refer to Annex B of Part 1 and IEC62133.

Each puff condition, 55 mL / 4 s only, is not reasonable and not comprehensive evaluation condition especially for Heated Tobacco devices.

Delete lines 91 to 94.

Regarding puffing conditions, liaisons with other international standards should be considered, ISO (35 to 55ml, 2 to 3s), CORESTA and HCI.

To be discussed in PT.

16 NO3 91 3.1.9 ed Redundant text, as it is covered by the scope of the standard.

Change to:“the batteries of battery-operated appliances shall initially be:”

To be discussed in PT.

17 NO4 93-94 3.1.9 ed “Fully discharged” and “fully charged” is bolded, but not defined

To be discussed in PT.

18 CH03 103, 120, 123, 127, 131, 135, 140, 144

3 ed IEC rules say that there is no full stop at the end of definitions.

Delete full stop at the end of each definition (seven times).

To be discussed in PT.

19 JP04 128-131

3.114 ge Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts..

Delete lines 128 to 131 To be discussed in PT.

20 JP05 132-135

3.115 ge Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete lines 132 to 135 To be discussed in PT.

21 JP06 136-140

3.116 ge Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete lines 136 to 140 To be discussed in PT.

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22 JP07 141-144

3.117 te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.Terms and definition of batteries should also refer to IEC standards

Delete lines 141 to 144 To be discussed in PT.

23 CH04 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “5 General conditions for the testsThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

24 CH05 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “6 ClassificationThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

25 CH06 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “7 Marking and instructionsThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

26 CH07 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “8 Protection against access to live partsThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

27 CH08 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “9 Starting of motor-operated appliancesThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

28 CH09 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “10 Power input and currentThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

29 CH10 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “11 HeatingThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

30 CH11 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “12 VoidThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

31 CH12 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “13 Leakage current and electric strength at operating temperatureThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

32 CH13 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “14 Transient overvoltagesThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

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33 CH14 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “15 Moisture resistanceThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

34 CH15 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “16 Leakage current and electric strengthThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

35 CH16 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “17 Overload protection of transformers and associated circuitsThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

36 CH17 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “18 EnduranceThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

37 CH18 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “19 Abnormal operationThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

38 CH19 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “20 Stability and mechanical hazardsThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

39 CH20 149 ed Clauses 5 to 21 are missing. Insert “21 Mechanical strengthThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

40 NL02 149 11.8 te No requirements are given for the surface temperatures of the appliances.

Add a table 10x covering surface temperatures

To be discussed in PT.

41 CH21 151, 152, 155

22 ed Incomplete formulation, typo, wrong format.

Line 151: Insert “This clause of Part 1 is applicable except as follows. and in a separate line insert Addition:”.Line 152: Replace “22.56” with “22.58”.Line 155: Format “Compliance is checked by inspection.” in italic.

To be discussed in PT.

42 JP08 152-155

22.56 te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete lines 152 to 155 To be discussed in PT.

43 CH22 156 ed Clauses 23 to 32 are missing. Insert “23 Internal wiringThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

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44 CH23 156 ed Clauses 23 to 32 are missing. Insert “24 ComponentsThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

45 CH24 156 ed Clauses 23 to 32 are missing. Insert “25 Supply connection and external flexible cordsThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

46 CH25 156 ed Clauses 23 to 32 are missing. Insert “26 Terminals for external conductorsThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

47 CH26 156 ed Clauses 23 to 32 are missing. Insert “27 Provision for earthingThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

48 CH27 156 ed Clauses 23 to 32 are missing. Insert “28 Screws and connectionsThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

49 CH28 156 ed Clauses 23 to 32 are missing. Insert “29 Clearances, creepage distances and solid insulationThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

50 CH29 156 ed Clauses 23 to 32 are missing. Insert “30 Resistance to heat and fireThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

51 CH30 156 ed Clauses 23 to 32 are missing. Insert “31 Resistance to rustingThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

52 CH31 156 ed Clauses 23 to 32 are missing. Insert “32 Radiation, toxicity and similar hazardsThis clause of Part 1 is applicable.”

To be discussed in PT.

53 CH32 169 ed The Note specifies that additional subclauses are numbered starting with 201, but most additional subclauses start with 101.

Check and correct, if necessary. To be discussed in PT.

54 CH33 171 ed Improve formulation. Replace line 171 with:“Replacement:Replace the introduction with the following:”.

To be discussed in PT.

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55 CH34 177 ed Improve formulation. Insert the following text in line 177:“Addition:”

To be discussed in PT.

56 JP09 187-190

5.7 te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete lines 187 to 190 To be discussed in PT.

57 NO5 190 Annex B, 5.7

te If we decide that temperature has an influence on the tests, neither 0 nor 25 deg. C simulate the outdoor temperatures in real life.

Change to:“Unless otherwise specified, for functional parts incorporating the battery(ies), the tests of Clauses 11 and 19 are carried out at the most unfavourable ambient temperature within the range of 0 °C to 25 °C -25 °C to 40 °C”

To be discussed in PT.

58 JP10 198 6.1 te An appliance does not have to meet IPX4.

IPX4 is not necessarily required. Fail-safe in IPX4 splash condition is sufficient.

The clause should be located to 19 Abnormal operation and follow IEC 60529 clause 14.2.4 Test for second characteristic numeral 4 with oscillating tube or spray nozzle a) and shall not cause any dangerous events such as explosion or fire.

To be discussed in PT.

59 NO06 198 Annex B, 6.1

te As the charging unit is for indoor use only, this is a requirement for the functional part

Change to:“An The functional part of the appliance shall be at least IPX4.”

To be discussed in PT.

60 JP11 204 7.12.101 te Marking “INDOOR USE ONLY” or equivalent on a charging interface could prevent and obstruct future innovative product designs and developments. It should not be required for all the appliances. Outdoor model would be developed. Warning in instructions works well for required regions.

Delete lines 200 to 204 To be discussed in PT.

61 JP12 214-219

10.102 te Current protection circuit conditions and testing methods are ambiguous or not clear.

Need to verify its conditions and testing methods

To be discussed in PT.

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62 JP13 224-238

11.7 te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete lines 224 to 238. To be discussed in PT.

63 CH35 240 ed Instead of subclause B.11.101 there is subclause 11.8 in Annex B of IEC 60335-1 ED 5.2.

Check and correct, if necessary. To be discussed in PT.

64 JP14 240-244

B.11.101 te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete lines 240 to 244. To be discussed in PT.

65 JP15 255-259

B.19.107 te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete lines 255 to 259. To be discussed in PT.

66 CH36 261, 268, 277, 286

ed Instead of subclause B.19.209, B.19.209.1, B.19.209.2 and B.19.209.3 there is subclause 19.B.104 as next free number in Annex B of IEC 60335-1 ED 5.2.

Check and correct, if necessary. To be discussed in PT.

67 JP16 261-266

B.19.209 te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete lines 261 to 266 To be discussed in PT.

68 NO07 265 Annex B, B.19.209

ed Spelling errors Change to:“Compliance is checked by the tests of B19.209.1 – B.19.209.3”

To be discussed in PT.

69 JP17 268-275

B.19.209.1

te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete lines 268 to 275 To be discussed in PT.

70 JP18 277-284

B.19.209.2

te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete lines 277 to 284 To be discussed in PT.

71 JP19 286-288

B.19.209.3

te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete lines 286 to 288 To be discussed in PT.

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72 JP20 303-317

20.101 te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete lines 303 to 317It should be reconsidered after the New Annex B becomes IS.

To be discussed in PT.

73 CH37 319, 372, 381, 383, 386, 388, 394

ed Similar to CH35. See CH35. To be discussed in PT.

74 JP21 321 B.20.201 te Detail conditions and necessity of a part, “the force to actuate at least 2 N” should be verified.

Delete” the force necessary to actuate it shall be at least 2 N and “of line 321

To be discussed in PT.

75 JP22 343 21 Clause 21 should remain in order to keep mechanical strength.

Change from “This clause of Part 1 is not applicable except as follows” to “Replacement”

To be discussed in PT.

76 JP23 345

355

21.1 te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.Pre-conditioning for 3 h at a temperature of -35 °C before the free-fall test is an excess condition and setting uniform condition is not appropriate.

It should be reconsidered after the New Annex B becomes IS.Delete “following pre-conditioning without consumables for 3 h at a temperature of -35 +0/-5 °C and then 1 h at a temperature of 25 ±5°C. “ of lines 354 to 355Delete line 363 the sentence starting with “The open circuit voltages ….”, until the end of paragraph, line 370.

To be discussed in PT.

77 JP24 372 B.21.201 te The testing method and conditions such as “compression force of 45.4 kg,” need to be verified.

It should refer to IEC standards. 45.4kg is not clear.

To be discussed in PT.

78 JP25 381 B.22.201 te Clause “Appliances shall not be constructed with provision for detachable or separable batteries,” could prevent and obstruct future innovative product designs and developments. Definitions of detachable or separable batteries need to be verified.

Delete line 381 To be discussed in PT.

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79 JP26 383-384

B.22.202 te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete lines 383 to 384. To be discussed in PT.

80 JP27 386 B.22.203 te Clause regarding the batteries should refer to Annex B of Part 1 for products and IEC62133 for parts.

Delete line 386. To be discussed in PT.

81 CH38 406 to 414

ed Lines 406 to 414 are superfluous. Delete lines 406 to 414. To be discussed in PT.

DECISION: It was agreed to combine the NPs into a single NP under new PT 60335-2-120 with Co-convenorship by Mr. Yusuke Suzuki, JPNC, and Mr. Flore Chiang, USNC. An AC will be circulated to clarify the combination of the two NPs under a single PT 60335-2-120, to identify the co-convenors, to identify the nominated experts from 61/6058/RVN and 61/6060/RVN, and to allow NCs to nominate additional experts.

The draft standard scope shall cover electrical safety of heaters for tobacco products and battery-operated vaping appliances supplied by batteries and related risks but will not cover health effects of steam generated from tobacco units or nicotine.

It was confirmed by USNC that the US NP was not backed by the tobacco industry. It was confirmed by JPNC that the JP NP was not backed by the tobacco industry.

The report to Council Board from CAB meeting 48, held virtually on 2020-11-09/10, as reported in SMB/7159/INF, was noted. It was also confirmed that from the side of the IEC there is no opposition from the ethical point of view (known danger to the health) on the development of standards addressing these types of appliances. It was also noted that the matter is still under discussion at the SMB level and it is expected to have feedback by June 2021. In the report of TC 61 to SMB the essence of this decision and the request to SMB to clarify the approach to be taken by TCs when dealing with ethically sensible products will be noted.

Regarding the liaison request from ISO TC 126 and the presentation by Mr. Takatsugu Hyodo in 61(2020Web/ISOTC 126)86, TC 61 thanked Mr. Hyodo for the presentation proposing a Mode 4 liaison between ISO/TC 126/SC3, ISO/TC 126/WG22 and IEC/TC 61. The ISO/TC 126/SC3 liaison representative will be Mr. Wolfgang Trinkies; the ISO/TC 126/WG22 liaison representative will be Mr. Takatsugu Hyodo; and the IEC/TC 61 liaison representative will be Mr. Yusuke Suzuki (for ISO/TC 126/WG22) and Mr. Flore Chiang (for ISO/TC 126/SC3).

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65. Update the Program of Work of TC 61 as recorded by IEC Central Office During the 23 November 2020 web series meeting, the target dates for the project for IEC 60335-2-6 were confirmed to be extended as follows:

PROJECT STAGE INIT. DATE NEXT STAGE MOD. JUSTIFICATION

60335-2-6 TCDV 2020.07.31 2021.11.30       To align with the extension of the stability date for IEC 60335-2-6 from 2021 to 2022 as confirmed in 61/6062/RQ, it was agreed at the TC 61 plenary meeting on 23 November 2020 to extend the project target dates as follows:

CDV: 2021-11-30

FDIS: 2022-07-31

IS: 2022-12-31

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END OF DISCUSSION FOR 23 NOVEMBER 2020