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Jooga tarkoittaa Bhagavad-Gitassa henkist tiet. Alun taistelukertomuksesta lytyyvertauskuvat:

aistimielelle, joka ryntilee aistimuksia tarjoavien elmysten perss

intuitiolle, joka ohjailee aistimielt (jooga ei toteudu, jos aistimielt ei pidet kurissa)

keho, jossa asitimieli ja intuitio toimivat

tietoisuus, jossa teemme jatkuvasti eettisi valintoja

"Pienell mrll hyveit voidaan voittaa iso mr paheita."

Jooga eli henkinen tie onnistuu toteuttamalla hyveit hetki kerrallaan - juuri nyt. Taavi Kassilavertaa tiet alkoholiriippuvuudesta eroon psyyn piv kerrallaan. Henkisell tiell ei tarvitse

jaksaa koko piv kerrallaan - toimitaan hetki kerrallaan.

Totuuden etsinnss erityisen merkityksellist on opettajan (mestarin) ja oppilaan suhde.

Ensimmisen kerran tuli juuri koettua mediaatio luentosalissa - toimisi mys mm.insinritieteiden luentojen alussa! Taavi Kassila: ...muinaiset Bhagavad-Gitan oppijatkyttivt meditaatiota vlineen, jotta mieli olisi mahdollisimman puhdas ja hienosyinenkuuntelemaan.

Bhagavad-Gita

5000 vuotta vanha teos

kirjoitettiin tulossa olevan pitkn tietmttmyyden aikakauden oppaaksiMahabharata -eepos kirjoitettiin muistiin 2,5 vuoden aikana - kirjoittaja halusi ymmrtkirjoittamansa ennen kuin valitsi sanat

Bhagavad-Gita on 18 luvun pituinen osa Mahabharataahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabhar...

ConnectIrmeli commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 23.11.2011 (fi)

"Bhagavad-Gita on maailman vanhimpia uskonnollis-filosofisia runoelmia jamaailmankirjallisuuden merkittvimpi klassikoita katkeamaton helminauhaelmnohjeita sek ikiaikaista viisautta. Sen nimeen vannovat joogien lisaksi mys kaikkimuut totuudenetsijt, joille se tarjoaa konkreettisia tienviittoja ja pysyttavi kilometripylvit.Se yhdist oivallisella ja selkell tavalla henkisen kasvun ja arkipivn. Etsijn eiBhagavad-Gitan mukaan tule erkaantua yhteiskunnasta vaan pinvastoin pysya osana sit jaoppia tuomaan henkisen polun tarjoamat oivallukset osaksi jokapivist elm. TaaviKassilan tulkinta sitoo klassikkotekstin tiiviisti thn pivn. Hnen tulkintansa on laajinBhagavad-Gitasta suomeksi ilmestynyt esitys..."

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"Trke on se, mit koko elmns ajan ajattelee" => tiivistyy elmn loppua kohti. Mielenpuhdistaminen vie aikaa - vaatii jatkuvaa ponnistelua. - Jlleen mainitaan opettajan (mestarin)seurassa olo - 20 vuotta opettajan (mestarin) seurassa mainitaan henkisen tien lytmisenalkuna.

mietiskelless, meditoidessa lydetty ei katoa

jos ei ole mahdollista olla esim. 20 vuotta opettajan (mestarin) seurassa, absoluuttia voilhesty mietiskelemll, meditaatiolla

vertauskuva: paahdettu siemen ei pilaannu - mietiskelemll, meditoimalla vhennetty egoei paisu uudestaan

"Tietmttmyydest luopuminen on elmn tarkoitus" - ihmiseen on sisnrakennettunamahdollisuus absoluutin (jumalallisen) oivaltamiseen. Kuvassa 7 chakraa - jokaisen chakranavaaminen aktivoi aivojen toimintaa lis.

"Suunta ratkaisee" - riippuvuuden suunta lis surua, vapauden suunta lis iloa.

Bhagavad-Gitan neuvomat kaksi vaihtoehtoista tiet:

tiedon tie: pohditaan puhdasta tietoisuutta ajatusten ja tunteiden takana = mietiskelyn jameditaation tie

epitsekkn toiminnan tie (karma-jooga = pienent egoa => vie lhemmksipmr): voi toteuttaa osana mit tahansa pivittist tyt tai muuta toimintaansa

Molempien teiden oppimisessa opettajan (mestarin) osuus on erittin trke. Taavi Kassila:kaikissa suurissa maailmanuskonnoissa mainitaan profeetan tulo maan plle erityisenvaikeina aikoina

Bhagavad-Gitasta lytyy nkemys: jumallalinen on yksi - teit (eri nkkulmia,maailmankatsomuksia, filosofioita, uskontoja) on monta. "Kaikki purot ja joet ptyvt lopultavaltamereen."

Henkinen tie = luopumista. Mit enemmn luopuu, sit pitemmlle psee. Hyvst ei tuleluopua. Taavi Kassila: Luther poisti yhden sanan... Jeesuksen ohje kuului: ei ainoastaantekojen avulla... vaan mys uskon. Luther poisti ohjeesta sanan ainoastaan. iti Amma:kukaan henkinen mestari ei ole sanonut, ettei tekoja tarvita.

Ihmisen valinta - millaisen mielen valitsee - ratkaisee henkisen tien edistymisen. Mielenhallinta on asian ytimessa. Jooga on kehon harjoitusta. Meditaatio on mielen harjoittamista.Henkisill harjoitteilla ja hyvill teoilla mieli taipuu hallintaan - kest yleens elinin.


Opettaja auttaa oppilasta eptoivoisten hetkien yli. "Opettaja hymyilee hyvksyvsti."

Todellisuus (jumalallinen tietoisuus) ei muutu. Jumalallinen sielu on meidn tosiolemus.Joogan tarkoitus on sisll asuvan itsen - tuhoutumattoman ja mittaamattoman - lytminen."Fyysinen maailmankaikkeus on jumalallinen olemus. Sielu on jumalallinen tietoisuus ihmisensisll."

Bhagavad-Gita kirjoitettiin ilmaisemaan Vedojen ja Upanisadien opetuksiakansantajuisemmassa muodossa - "tietoisuus on jumala". Siin vaiheessa, kun henkisen tienkulkija voittaa oman egonsa (ego poistuu), hn kokee absoluutin (jumalan).

"Sin olet se" = jumalallisuus on meiss, mutta emme koe sit. Syit:- tietmttmyys- harhaksitykset, "valveuni" - mieli projisoi valkokankaalleen unikuvia mys valveilla;valveunessa tunnistettavissa painajaisunen tunteet- negatiiviset tunnentilat mielen projektorin heijastamana - emme koe kaikkialla olevaaabsoluuttia (jumalallista)




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