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    Industrial Relations & Labour Law:

    Is there a Disciplinary Divide?

    Andrew Frazer

    Faculty of LawUniversity of Wollongong

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    aradigms of Legal Scholarship

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    he traditional paradigm

    doctrinal (black letter)

    Internal orientation

    John Baldwin and Gwynn Davis:

    "The legal scholar who operates in the common law

    tradition is primarily interested not in the social policy

    of the law, or the translation of that policy intoeffective practice, but rather in the coherence and

    logic of legal argument applied to a given set of

    facts."

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    raditional methodology

    finding the law

    Enid Campbell:"Legal research entails discovery of authoritative

    sources of laws in force at particular points of time,

    and interpretation of those sources.

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    Internal v

    External approaches to law

    External: Law in context

    Operation and effects of legal rules

    Social and political environment Law not completely autonomous

    Social science data relevant to operation of

    legal system

    But legal scholars still focused on doctrine

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    Empirical research in law

    Increasing interest in operation and effects of

    law

    But lack of empirical research skills

    Most empirical research by scholars from

    other disciplines

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    Labour Law in Australia

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    Labour law: the traditional paradigm

    Formal focus :

    employment contract & arbitration system

    Interaction with Industrial Relations

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    Labour law works to 1985 (Bischoff et al)

    category %

    System: C&A 40

    Terms / condns (wage fixing) 18

    organisations 9

    Empl relnship 9

    Health & safety 8

    Industrial conflict 7

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    Labour law publications 1956-85

    (Mitchell)

    category %

    IR structures / systems(arbitration)

    55

    Empl relationship 14

    Organisations (TUs) 15

    Industrial conflict 7

    Health and safety 5

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    Traditional paradigm: areas of interest

    Limits of the arbitration system

    Constitution, legislation, Cmmns discretion

    Practical issues in contract of employment status, duties, dismissal

    Lawyers law

    Legal regulation of trade unions

    Industrial action and the law

    Jurisprudence of the tribunals

    Development of norms

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    Industrial Relations and Law

    A pluralist, state decentred approach to

    regulation

    Concerned with rules, formal and informal But narrow view of law

    As framework / environment for parties

    As an input / tool As a site for contest: courts, tribunals

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    Law as Regulation

    Law and Labour Market Regulation

    Meeting ground for labour law / IR

    Broader scope - beyond empl relationship

    Wider range of regulatory influences

    Though still largely state-centred

    Focused on formal legal processes

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    An Alternative Approach to Law

    Sociology of Law /

    Socio-Legal Studies

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    The Sociology of Law

    Eugen Ehrlich

    Fundamental Principles of the Sociology of Law

    1913 (trans 1937)

    Law is not socially autonomous

    Law is effective only as social norms

    the enforceable contract does not rule the world tothe extent that it is being enforced by the

    authorities, but to the extent that it has become a

    rule of conduct.

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    Ehrlich

    Law is not the exclusive product of the state

    - Legal pluralism

    - Organisations develop their own inner order ofthe association

    Legal institutions are social institutions

    - Courts decide by norms for decision

    - concretised into technical legal propositions

    - But these are never directly applied in practice

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    Modern Sociology of Law / Socio-Legal

    StudiesCotterrell:

    1. Law is irreducibly socialLaw is an aspect of social relationships in general

    2. Knowledge of law is empirically grounded

    based on observation of the diversity and detail of

    actual historical patterns (not abstract relations)

    3. Study of law is systematicfrom specific to general: assess the significance of

    particularities in a wider perspective

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    Scope of sociology of law research

    Effectiveness of law in controlling behaviour

    law and social control

    Influence of legal change on society

    impact studies

    Effectiveness of legal procedures - courts etc

    legal process

    Effect of social change on law responsiveness

    Laws effect on social inequality

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    Sociological approaches to law

    (Banakar)

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    A sociology of labour law

    Hugo Sinzheimer

    Otto Kahn-Freund

    Historical and comparative analysis Descriptive account of norms regulating

    actual behaviour- empirical

    Critical analysis of relationship between

    formal rules and social practices - gap

    Theoretical synthesis - material foundations

    of legal ideology

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    Scope for development of law as

    regulation

    Social institutionalist approach

    effect through social embeddedness

    Pluralism

    deprivileging law

    focus on social norms

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    Examples of sociological approach to

    labour law

    Australia at work project

    (WRC, Sydney)

    the nature of the lived reality of

    employment contracts

    workers knowledge & perception of the

    legal instruments governing them

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    Fidelity at the workplace

    Implied duty under contract of employment

    use of employers property

    conflicts of interest business opportunities

    secret profits

    Employer policies Training

    Workplace culture

    Social norms - moral values

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