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  • Gerard ’t Hoofthttps://www.staff.science.uu.nl/∼hooft101/

    The hydrogen atom for quantum gravityCentre for Extreme Matter and Emergent Phenomena,Science Faculty, Utrecht University,POBox 80.089,3508 TB, Utrecht

    FayetFestENS Colloquium, Paris45 Rue d’UlmThursday, December 9, 14:00

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  • This talk is about a discovery that should have been made decades ago, but it

    was only made very recently:

    In an unusual basis, the scattering matrix S describing theevolution of a black hole can be written in an almost closed

    form.

    Unless we choose proper boundary conditions,firewalls arise, violating the basic principles of GR.

    Every point on the horizon has to be identified with itsantipode.

    The quantum black hole has no interior!unlike the classical black hole in its usual description

    Using an algebra derived some 30 years ago, we had all knowledge needed to

    derive these facts.

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  • This talk is about a discovery that should have been made decades ago, but it

    was only made very recently:

    In an unusual basis, the scattering matrix S describing theevolution of a black hole can be written in an almost closed

    form.

    Unless we choose proper boundary conditions,firewalls arise, violating the basic principles of GR.

    Every point on the horizon has to be identified with itsantipode.

    The quantum black hole has no interior!unlike the classical black hole in its usual description

    Using an algebra derived some 30 years ago, we had all knowledge needed to

    derive these facts.

    4 / 30

  • This talk is about a discovery that should have been made decades ago, but it

    was only made very recently:

    In an unusual basis, the scattering matrix S describing theevolution of a black hole can be written in an almost closed

    form.

    Unless we choose proper boundary conditions,firewalls arise, violating the basic principles of GR.

    Every point on the horizon has to be identified with itsantipode.

    The quantum black hole has no interior!unlike the classical black hole in its usual description

    Using an algebra derived some 30 years ago, we had all knowledge needed to

    derive these facts.

    4 / 30

  • All needed to be done, was to handle the black hole the waythe hydrogen atom was handled when Schrödinger discovered hisequation. Matter in the form of spherical harmonics has to beinserted into this algebra to make exactly clear what happens.

    These very simple argumentslead to surprising new physics !

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  • Hawking 1975: BH emits particles. However:in his view, BH consists of interior part and exterior part.

    Particles entering the interior part cannot come out.Their quantum information is lost. Therefore, particlesemerging from BH are in a mixed state.

    distant

    time

    local time

    III

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  • Hawking 1975: BH emits particles. However:in his view, BH consists of interior part and exterior part.

    Particles entering the interior part cannot come out.Their quantum information is lost. Therefore, particlesemerging from BH are in a mixed state.

    distant

    time

    local time

    III

    Hartle-Hawking vacuum:

    |HH 〉 =

    C∑

    E ,n e−12βE |E , n〉I |E , n〉II

    I = outsideII = inside [?]

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  • Hawking 1975: BH emits particles. However:in his view, BH consists of interior part and exterior part.

    Particles entering the interior part cannot come out.Their quantum information is lost. Therefore, particlesemerging from BH are in a mixed state.

    This cannot be right . . . It should be possible to describe thephysics of a horizon in terms of pure quantum states

    Superstring theory

    finds something that looks like a black hole,and it is described in terms of pure quantum states !

    “microstates”.

    Claim: that thing is not well understood . . .

    How are these microstates related to vacuum fluctuations?

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  • Hawking 1975: BH emits particles. However:in his view, BH consists of interior part and exterior part.

    Particles entering the interior part cannot come out.Their quantum information is lost. Therefore, particlesemerging from BH are in a mixed state.

    This cannot be right . . . It should be possible to describe thephysics of a horizon in terms of pure quantum states

    Superstring theory

    finds something that looks like a black hole,and it is described in terms of pure quantum states !

    “microstates”.

    Claim: that thing is not well understood . . .

    How are these microstates related to vacuum fluctuations?

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  • But then:

    Difficulties regarding entanglement and no-cloning:

    Almheiri, Marolf, Polchinski, Sully (AMPS): If we start in a pure state,and consequently Hawking radiation is in a pure state, then that pure state

    must be entangled also with earlier radiation. Therefore it can’t be in the state

    originally considered by Hawking.

    They want to put the black hole in a pure state, living in region Ionly. Such a state differs from the HH vacuum as seen by localobserver. This difference produces a curtain of infinitely energeticparticles along the future event horizon: a firewall . . .

    This cannot be right. As we discovered, you can do better.

    And yes, the price is:

    there will be new physics

    String theory is far from fool-proof

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  • But then:

    Difficulties regarding entanglement and no-cloning:

    Almheiri, Marolf, Polchinski, Sully (AMPS): If we start in a pure state,and consequently Hawking radiation is in a pure state, then that pure state

    must be entangled also with earlier radiation. Therefore it can’t be in the state

    originally considered by Hawking.

    They want to put the black hole in a pure state, living in region Ionly. Such a state differs from the HH vacuum as seen by localobserver. This difference produces a curtain of infinitely energeticparticles along the future event horizon: a firewall . . .

    This cannot be right. As we discovered, you can do better.

    And yes, the price is: there will be new physics

    String theory is far from fool-proof

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  • Let us begin by getting the maximum out of standard EinsteinGeneral Relativity and standard Quantum Mechanics

    Then, one has to discover 3 important things:

    (i) Particles going into a black hole, interact gravitationally withparticles going out. If you want to describe these as purequantum states, you cannot ignore that (only if they are in mixed states,you may) because this grav. force is strong

    and because it diverges; all microstates used are ⊥ to the HH state

    (ii) This force generates an algebra that is linear in thecoordinates & momenta of the in- and out-particles,and therefore, you can superimpose solutions! −→Make an expansion in spherical harmonics.

    (iii) We have always been wrong in thinking that the mirrorparticles of the Hawking particles, going into the BH, will getlost. The mirror particles reappear at the other side!

    If we ignore any one of these 3 points, we fail tounderstand what happens

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  • Let us begin by getting the maximum out of standard EinsteinGeneral Relativity and standard Quantum Mechanics

    Then, one has to discover 3 important things:

    (i) Particles going into a black hole, interact gravitationally withparticles going out. If you want to describe these as purequantum states, you cannot ignore that (only if they are in mixed states,you may) because this grav. force is strong

    and because it diverges; all microstates used are ⊥ to the HH state

    (ii) This force generates an algebra that is linear in thecoordinates & momenta of the in- and out-particles,and therefore, you can superimpose solutions! −→Make an expansion in spherical harmonics.

    (iii) We have always been wrong in thinking that the mirrorparticles of the Hawking particles, going into the BH, will getlost. The mirror particles reappear at the other side!

    If we ignore any one of these 3 points, we fail tounderstand what happens

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  • The gravitational backreaction:calculate the grav. field due to a fast moving particle,

    simply Lorentz boost the field of a particle at rest:

    δx

    1

    2

    u−

    p−

    δu−

    12

    δu−(x̃) = −4G p−(x̃ ′) log |x̃ − x̃ ′| .

    (Rindler space simplification)

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  • An extra particle δ(in) with momentum δp− going in interactsgravitationally with the out-going particles, causing a shift δu−:

    u−

    u+

    in

    out

    |BH1〉

    II I

    δu−(Ω) ≈ −4G δp−(Ω′) log |Ω− Ω′| , Ω ≡ (θ, ϕ) .

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  • An extra particle δ(in) with momentum δp− going in interactsgravitationally with the out-going particles, causing a shift δu−:

    u−

    u+

    in

    outout

    δ (in)

    δu−

    δp−

    |BH1〉

    II I

    δu−(Ω) ≈ −4G δp−(Ω′) log |Ω− Ω′| , Ω ≡ (θ, ϕ) .

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  • An extra particle δ(in) with momentum δp− going in interactsgravitationally with the out-going particles, causing a shift δu−:

    u−

    u+

    in

    outout

    δ (in)

    δu−

    δp−

    |BH1〉

    II I

    δu−(Ω) ≈ −4G δp−(Ω′) log |Ω− Ω′| , Ω ≡ (θ, ϕ) .

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  • In 1986, we argued as follows:

    1. Consider ONE pure quantum state of a black hole, defined by ALL of itsinitial, in-going particles. Call this state |BH(1)〉in

    2. Assume that this quantum state evolves into a pure final state ofout-going particles, |BH(1)〉out.Of course, |BH(1)〉out consists of a superposition of a very large numberof elementary particle states. But, it is pure.

    3. Now add a single particle entering the horizon with momentum p−in atΩ = (θ, ϕ), so that we modify the in-state: |BH(2)〉in = |BH(1) + p−in〉in

    4. All particles in |BH(1)〉out are dragged by an amount δu−out, given by ourdrag formula:

    |BH(2)〉out = e−i∫d2ΩP+(Ω)δu−out(Ω) |BH(1)〉out

    5. Repeat this by adding or removing in-particles, as many as you want.This way, we get the |BH(3)〉out that correspond to any conceivablein-state. Call the new in-states |BH(1), p−in(θ, ϕ)〉in. Then

    |BH(3)〉out = e−i∫d2Ωd2Ω′P+out(Ω) f (Ω,Ω

    ′) p−in(Ω′)|BH(1)〉out

    6. Thus, notice that this gives a unitary (?)* S-matrix, in terms of thestates|p−(Ω)〉in and |p+(Ω)〉out.

    * You must allow all values for u±(Ω) and p±(Ω) !!

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  • The sum of all momenta going in, drags the positions ofall out-going things.

    This leads to a linear algebra relating the momenta of all in-goingparticles combined, to the average positions of all out-going ones.

    These obey simple commutation relations,

    [ 1N

    ∑i

    ui (Ω) ,∑j

    pj(Ω′) ] = iδ2(Ω,Ω′) , Ω ≡ (θ, ϕ)

    Integrate all particles that cross the horizon.

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  • This leads to a local algebra for the total momentum densitiesand the average position operators, as distributions on the horizon:

    u−out(Ω) =

    ∫d2Ω′ f (Ω, Ω′) p−in(Ω

    ′) ,

    This equation allows us to transform in-going particles into out-going particles

    (∆Ω − 1) f (Ω, Ω′) = −8πG δ2(Ω, Ω′)

    (∆Ω − 1)u−out(Ω) = − 8πG p−in(Ω) ; (1)

    [u−out(Ω), p+out(Ω

    ′)] = [u+in(Ω), p−in(Ω

    ′)] = i δ2(Ω, Ω′) . (2)

    [u+in(Ω), u−out(Ω

    ′)] = if (Ω, Ω′) ; (3)

    (∆Ω − 1)u+in(Ω) = + 8πGp+out(Ω) . (4)

    This algebra is extremely simple, but also tricky.How to interpret the sign switch in↔ out ?

    (it is correct, in our notation)

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  • All states, both in the initial and the final black hole, are arepresentation of this algebra.

    So much for 1986. We concluded that the relation between in-and out- is now not much more than a Fourier transformation:u± ↔ p∓, with p = −i ∂∂u

    Is that all ?

    NO !

    There is a complication.

    Let’s calculate the representation:

    Do the partial wave expansion

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  • All states, both in the initial and the final black hole, are arepresentation of this algebra.

    So much for 1986. We concluded that the relation between in-and out- is now not much more than a Fourier transformation:u± ↔ p∓, with p = −i ∂∂u

    Is that all ? NO !

    There is a complication.

    Let’s calculate the representation:

    Do the partial wave expansion

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  • Partial waves on the spherical black hole:(up

    )(θ, ϕ) =

    ∑`,m

    (u`,mp`,m

    )Y`,m(θ, ϕ)

    [u±`,m , p∓`′,m′ ] = iδ``′ δmm′

    (1−∆Ω)f (Ω) = 8πG δ2(Ω) → (`2 + `+ 1)f`,m = 8πG .

    u±`,m = ∓8πG/R2

    `2 + `+ 1p±`,m

    Just as in the hydrogen atom, the different (`,m) modes decouple.This is not a “classical approximation”- it happens because the operators

    at different (`,m) all commute.

    The out-going wave is the Fourier transform of the in-going wave.

    Indeed, if uin approaches horizon at u = 0 as: uin → λuin, then uout willbe driven out: uout → λ−1uout

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  • Partial waves on the spherical black hole:(up

    )(θ, ϕ) =

    ∑`,m

    (u`,mp`,m

    )Y`,m(θ, ϕ)

    [u±`,m , p∓`′,m′ ] = iδ``′ δmm′

    (1−∆Ω)f (Ω) = 8πG δ2(Ω) → (`2 + `+ 1)f`,m = 8πG .

    u±`,m = ∓8πG/R2

    `2 + `+ 1p±`,m

    Just as in the hydrogen atom, the different (`,m) modes decouple.This is not a “classical approximation”- it happens because the operators

    at different (`,m) all commute.

    The out-going wave is the Fourier transform of the in-going wave.

    Indeed, if uin approaches horizon at u = 0 as: uin → λuin, then uout willbe driven out: uout → λ−1uout

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  • Partial wave expansionin black hole: at given`,m, the out-state isthe Fourier transformof the in-state.

    However, Radius r ≥ 0and r < 0 both occur!

    the in-state: r ≥ 0 I

    σin = − II σin = +

    -6 -4 -2 2 4 6

    -0.5

    -0.4

    -0.3

    -0.2

    -0.1

    0.1

    0.2

    the out-state

    II I

    -6 -4 -2 2 4 6

    -0.5

    0.5

    1.0

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  • ThePenrosediagram

    III

    IV

    IIIu+

    u−

    in

    outin

    out

    III

    IV

    δu

    δu

    δuII I

    u+

    u−in

    out

    out

    Regions III and IVare quantum clonesof regions I and II ,

    but they cannot be seenby the outside observers.The states in I and IItogether must span all

    of Hilbert space

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  • ThePenrosediagram

    III

    IV

    IIIu+

    u−

    in

    outin

    out

    III

    IV

    δu

    δu

    δuII I

    u+

    u−in

    out

    out

    Regions III and IVare quantum clonesof regions I and II ,

    but they cannot be seenby the outside observers.The states in I and IItogether must span all

    of Hilbert space

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  • In the 1920s, partial, spherical wave expansions showed how thequantum dynamics of the hydrogen atom can be understood.

    Now, we see that partial, spherical wave expansions solve thequantum dynamics of a black hole.

    The underlying mathematics is almost the same,but the physics is different:

    In an atom, we expand the wave function;in the black hole we expand the local momentum density.

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  • The connection between regions I and II is calledthe Einstein - Rosen bridge.

    The ER bridge seems to connect two black holes.

    To restore unitarity for a single black hole, we have only one option:

    region II describes the points on the horizonthat are antipodal to the points in region I .

    Sanchez-Whiting 1986/87This gives us the Schrödinger equation (generates dilatations):

    H = {u+p−} = −{u−p+}

    with boundary conditions as given in the algebra.

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  • (ψout+ψout−

    )= 1√

    2πΓ( 12 − iκ) e

    iφ`(κ)( e− 12πκ ie+ 12πκie+

    12πκ e−

    12πκ

    )(ψin+ψin−

    )To be read as follows: κ is the energy of a partial wave, as

    defined by the outside observer.At each `, m, we have a wave function ψinσ (κ) , and ψ

    outσ (κ)

    related by this unitary transformation matrix.

    The two signs, σ = ±1 mix.This means that our particles fill region I as well as region II in thePenrose diagram.

    This BH universe has two asymptotic regions.

    I and II talk to each other ! What does this mean?

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  • If you could move faster than light, and you entered a black holeat one side,

    2GM

    you would re-emerge at the other side, CPT inverted!

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  • If you could move faster than light, and you entered a black holeat one side,

    2GM

    you would re-emerge at the other side, CPT inverted!

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  • If you could move faster than light, and you entered a black holeat one side,

    2GM

    you would re-emerge at the other side, CPT inverted!

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  • Firewalls

    Picture emerging:

    the “old” picture has firewalls of Hawking particles hanging on the futurehorizon, and imploding matter on the past horizon.

    These are now regarded as quantum clones of particles far away from the blackhole

    So they are redundant, and have to be discarded

    This does away with the firewalls,and allows us to use the Penrose diagram for eternal black holes

    But it does require an unconventional attitude towards black holes, or:

    NEW PHYSICS

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  • Firewalls

    Picture emerging:

    the “old” picture has firewalls of Hawking particles hanging on the futurehorizon, and imploding matter on the past horizon.

    These are now regarded as quantum clones of particles far away from the blackhole

    So they are redundant, and have to be discarded

    This does away with the firewalls,and allows us to use the Penrose diagram for eternal black holes

    But it does require an unconventional attitude towards black holes, or:

    NEW PHYSICS

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  • ` must be odd!

    u±(θ, ϕ) = −u±(π − θ, ϕ+ π)p±( ) = −p±( )

    only obeyed at odd `:

    Y`m(π − θ, ϕ+ π) = (−1)` Y`m(θ, ϕ)

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  • What are the implications for the nature of space-time?

    but more work must be done . . . we will have to be much moreprecise in our analysis !

    − ∼ −

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  • What are the implications for the nature of space-time?

    but more work must be done . . . we will have to be much moreprecise in our analysis !

    − ∼ −

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