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Testimony of Wes Rishel 29 March 1999
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Message Formats, Models, and Syntax
Testimony for the National Committeeon Vital & Health Statistics
29 March 1999
Wes Rishel
Technical Vice-Chair, Health Level-Seven
Primary Affiliation: Wes Rishel Consulting
Alameda, CA
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3/29/1999 1Testimony of Wes Rishel
([SHULHQFH
Standards/Experience Cycle
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Versions 2.x
Strengthsbroad functional
coverage
highly adaptable
• IS environments differ
• system capabilities
variationsvocabulary independent
least commondenominator technological base
Difficultiesbroad functional
coverage
highly adaptable
• “Seen one? Seen one.”
• vendor capability
mismatchvocabulary independent
least commondenominator technological base
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Functions of Comparable PMRI
• Extending the efficiency and efficacy of individual providers and organizations
• Extending the efficiency and efficacy of healthcare
Extending the efficiency and efficacy of individual providers andorganizations
availability of current information at the point of care
across provider organizations
within rapidly changing provider organizations
decision support
support for standards of assessment and care
support for the somewhat bewildering array of administrativeconstraints on decision making and requirements for supporting data
Extending the efficiency and efficacy of healthcareevidence-based medicine
public health
public policy
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Interfaces Within an Organization
Clinician
Admin
Provider Organization
Clinician
Information
System
Information
System
Admin
Information
System
Governmental or societal interest less direct
assurance of quality
assurance of availability of information
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3/29/1999 5Testimony of Wes Rishel
Interfaces Among Organizations
Provider
Organization
Payer
Organization
Sponsor
Organization
Aggregating
Organization
Provider
Organization
Payer
Organization
Governmental or societal interest is direct
cost containment with quality
assurance of availability of information
barriers more difficult without government intervention
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Prerequisites for Exchanging Comparable PMRI
Technologies and Syntaxes
Kinds of Information Interchange
Information ContentRIM, Vocabulary,
Clinical Templates
Messages, Documents, Rules
Version 2 Syntax, XML, MIME (email/Web),
Component Technologies
Technologies and syntaxes are important, but the primary challenges are in
specifying information content.
Technology and syntax are interrelated
Appropriate combinations of technology and syntax reduce the cost and other
barriers to acceptance within the industry
e.g.,
reduced programming, debugging, and customization costs
use if the Internet with suitable safeguards for
interorganizational information transfer
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How Comparable is Comparable?
• What does it mean not to be comparable? Communicate less information?
Communicate less precisely?
Tolerate a percentage of error?
• acceptable for statistical applications
Have bilateral implementation agreements
• costs measured on a “per system” basis
• inconsistent with previous HIPAA requirements
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What Does Comparability Cost?
• There is now, and for the foreseeable future, a costbarrier to full exchange of comparable fine-grainedinformation
• The barriers are not primarily attributable to the syntaxor technologies of information exchange
• They are attributable to:
the need for combined standardization on• information structure
• vocabulary
• The cost of initially collecting the information to beexchanged
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HL7 Contributions
• Information Structures Reference Information Model
Clinical Templates
Semi-definitive approach toVocabulary
• Expanded Applications
• All Appropriate
Technologies
Technologies and Syntaxes
Kinds of Information Interchange
Information Content
RIM, Vocabulary,
Clinical Templates
Messages, Documents, Rules
Version 2 Syntax, XML, MIME (email/Web),
Component Technologies
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The Approach
• The HL7 Vocabulary TC is committed to using
existing vocabularies (coding systems) as values for
coded fields in HL7 messages, rather than creating
a new terminology.
• We need a solution that allows HL7 to reference
and use proprietary vocabularies (SNOMED, Read,
etc.) in a manner that is equitable to all vocabulary
creation/maintenance organizations.
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HL7 Assumptions
• Should not choose a single proprietary scheme
• Free-for-use coding systems preferred
• “Market model” will assure responsivemaintenance
• Proprietary vocabulary use requires a license
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ORU: The usual result message
Element LoopAnswer Part Loop
ORU Observational Results (Unsolicited)
MSH Message Header
PID Patient Identification
{OBR Observations Report ID
{OBX} Observation/Result
}
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How much meaning to put in a code?
HL7 OBX Segment (simplified)OBX | Observation Id | Value | UnitsOBX | 123^Ser Na Conc | 138 | mmol/L
Possible Codes for Observation Id123 Serum Na Concentration456 Serum Na Concentration (mmol/L)
Code meanings must be consistent with the datastructure within which they will be used !
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The Missing Link: Clinical Templates
• Universal “trading partner agreements”
• More specific
• More costly
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An instance of an ORU message
MSH, EVN, PID, PV1, ORC,
OBR||8974-9^BP Battery^LN|
OBX|1|CE|8357-6^METHOD^LN|M^Manual|
OBX|2|CE|8358-4^DEVICE^LN|1|AC^Adult Cuff|
OBX|3|CE|8359-2^SITE^LN|1|RBA^Rt Brachial Artery|
OBX|4|CE|8361-7^POSITION^LN|1|SIT^Sitting|
OBX|5|NM|8479-8^SBP^LN|1|138|mmHg|
OBX|6|NM|8462-4^DBP^LN|1|85|mmHg|
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A BP Battery Template
Battery Level ConstraintBPBattery ::= SET {
obr {
universalServiceID (8974-9^BP Battery) }
obxs {
MethodObs,
DeviceObs,
SiteObs,
PositionObs,
SystolicBPObs,
DiastolicBPObs }
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Observation Template
Observation level constraint
PositionObs ::= SET{
observationId (8361^POSITION^LN),
value (PositionDomain) }
SystolicBPObs ::= SET{
observationId (8479-8^SBP^LN),
value (Numeric, “DDD”) },
units (mmHg) }
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The RIM and Clinical Templates
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pr es c r i p t i on _i dr e f i l l s _r em ai n i ng_ qt yno tes _t xtP Tr out
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Root
Stakeholder Service Event
AssessmentOrderOrganization Person
Rx Order
Service Order
Observation
Goal
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What are clinical templates?
• “Constraint of an existing information model”Reference Information Model (RIM)
• Constraint of specific RIM classes:
clinical assessment
clinical observation
service event
service order
others
• Can be applied to Version 2.X or version 3.0
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What Kinds of Data Will Templates Describe?
• Clinical laboratory batteries
• Physical exam findings
• Microbiology culture results
• Immunization queries and results
• Claims attachments
• Medical Records Documents (transcription)
• And hundreds more ….
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Clinical Template Work Items
• Define the formal notation for templates
• Define a process for creating, approving, andmaintaining templates
• Define a mechanism for participating withprofessional societies or other clinical experts in the
creation of template content
• Create a repository for storing and allowing accessto templates
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Where Will Clinical Templates be Used?
• Messages with fine-grained,comparable, clinical data
• Documents
• Rules
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HL7-HIPAA Claims Attachments
• Collaborative team: HCFA, X12, HL7
• HL7 version 2.3 syntax embedded within X12275 transaction Rigid pattern of segments
Variability through LOINC codes
• No bilateral trading partner agreements
• Varying degrees of granularity
• Comparability requires more or less human judgement
• This is a primitive form of clinical template
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The Other Cost of Fine-Grained Information
Clinician
Admin
Provider Organization
Clinician
Information
System
Information
System
Admin
Information
System This is not a
solved problem
Much of the most valuable information comes from providers making care
decisions
Capturing information requires provider interaction with the computer at or
near the time of making the decisions
The time of the provider is itself a major cost
We rely on medical record designs to co-optimize physician time and
information quality
This is not a solved problem
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( [ S H U L H Q F H
Co-Evolution of EMRs and Standards
ClinicianInformationSystem
The issues are not wholly separable
The latency time for improvements is substantial
standards development
system engineering cycles
provider implementation cycles
The situation has similarities to automobile mileage and pollution regulation
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What Can the Government Do?
• Establish Time-Based Goals With Teeth
• Require no trading partner agreements foraggregation requirements
• Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good early on: emphasize selective achievements consistent with
current systems and extant standards
• Don’t let the good be the enemy of the better long term: raise the bar to promote finer-grained standards in
time frames consistent with industry product cycles
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Specific Governmental Actions
• Support the creation of clinical templatesMethodology
Outreach to clinical specialty groups
• Strongly influence in the business of providingvocabulariesSelect, sponsor, negotiate public rates for a few
important vocabularies• Drugs
• Signs, symptoms, diagnoses, history, physical exam
• Laboratory findings
• Observation identification