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Since Hitler had become a dispatch runner in November 1914, he spent most of his time at the regimentheadquarters. That means that he did not take part of the action that took place in the front line. In the beginning of1915 Hitler was in Messines, but the maps of the Messines area are on the 1914 page. After Messines Hitler’sregiment went to the region of Neuve-Chapelle in France. After that the headquarters of the regiment were locatedat Fournes-en-Weppes and Fromelles. In both places still are buildings where Hitler lived when he was a soldier. In1940 he went back to these villages
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Old year, new years day and right after that - Warneton and Bas-Warneton
The regiment has a 4 days rest.
January 3 - Messines area
January 6 - Messines
The regiment goes to the village of Messines for a rest. They find shelter in the ‘Kloster’ and in cellars of different
houses.
January 9 - Messines
The regiment goes back to the front line near Messines.
January 24 - Messines
The ‘Befehlstelle’ of the first batallion lays under fire. The commanders go to new ‘Stützpunkte’ at the ‘Bad- und
Mittelferme’.
January 30 - Messines, Comines, Warneton
The regiment gets replaced.
- They stay near Befehlstelle Lugferme
- Some companies stay at the front line
- Some go to Messines and Warneton
- Some go to the Kellerferme
- The regimentsstaf is at Messines or Comines
Somewhere in February – St. Elooi
Hitler’s Regiment, says Hitler in a letter, is ‘left’ of Eloi (‘where the English were beaten’). This must be St. Elooi
(Belgium), south of Ieper. There’s a war memorial on the Armetierseweg. Near St. Elooi, along the the
Voormezelestraat, is the location of the Bayernwald.
February - Messines
February 5 - Wervicq
The first batallion marches through Werwicq to the crossing near Molière, because king Ludwig III comes there to
visit the troops.
March - Comines
According to a vague description the regiment or parts of it spent 6 days in Comines.
March 8/9 - Tourcoing (Meijers book says March 6)
At night the regiment is replaced. They go to Tourcoing to serve as Reserve Troops. Their location is the
‘Kronprinz-Rupprecht-Kazerne’ at the Rue de Chènes Houpline (an old spinnery). They rest for 14 days.
March 10 - Battle of Neuve-Chapelle
On March 10 –13 the battle of Neuve-Chapelle took place. The British aim was to capture the village of Neuve-
Chapelle. They were succesful, but the efforts stagnated after having taking just 1100 meters of land. About
13.000 British and 12.000 German soldiers were killed. Two British war cemeteries are on the Rue du Moulin
just outside Neuve-Chapelle.
To get to Neuve-Chapelle the German List-regiment got transported towards Lille by train. They went to Marquilles
by train. The troops were stationed at: Wicres (there’s still a German war cemetery there), Le Willy and
Sainghin.
The regiment took part of the battle of Neuve-Chapelle. The 1st and 3rd batallion went through the woods of Biez to
reach Neuve-Chapelle. The regiments staf was located at the so called Ferme de Biez (location unknown).
The troops travelled from Halpegarbe, through the wood, where they waited at the edge of the wood for the
attack. The 1st batallion got to the crossing, southwest of Neuve Chapelle, but the enemy was not longer at the
eastside of the villlage, but on the fields southwest of the woods of Biez.
March 12/13 - Battle of Neuve-Chapelle
The trenches in the area are enlarged, but the Germans are not able to take the village.
March 13/14 - Marquilles
At night the regiments marches from the front lines to Marquilles. Quartier at Salomé. The shelter on the same
day for the 1st batallion was at Petit Hantay and La Bourse. The shelter for the 1st batallion was at Petit Hantay
Since Hitler had become a dispatch runner in November 1914, he spent most of his time at the regiment
headquarters. That means that he did not take part of the action that took place in the front line. In the beginning of
1915 Hitler was in Messines, but the maps of the Messines area are on the 1914 page. After Messines Hitler’s
regiment went to the region of Neuve-Chapelle in France. After that the headquarters of the regiment were located
at Fournes-en-Weppes and Fromelles. In both places still are buildings where Hitler lived when he was a soldier. In
1940 he went back to these villages. The World War 2 pages of the Belgium and France section of this website show
more of that period.
BELGIUM and FRANCE
1914 - 1915 - 1916 - 1917 - 1918
HISTORICAL HITLER SITES
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and La Bourse. The Regiment staf goes to Grand and Petit Moisnil.
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TOURCOING (FRANCE)Kronprinz-Rupprecht-Kazerne (an old spinnery)
Location: Rue de Chènes Houpline
Today: Unknown
On March 8/9 1915 Hitler’s regiment was replaced to Tourcoing to serve as reserve regiment. They find shelter inside
what the Germans called the Kronprinz-Rupprecht-Kazerne, an old spinnery. They rest in Tourcoing for 14 days.
Station Tourcoing
Location: Place Pierre Sémard
Today: This is the modern station of Tourcoing. It’s absolutely not certain that Hitlers regiment took the train at this
station.
To get to Neuve-Chapelle in March 1915 the German List-regiment got transported towards Lille by train. From there
they went to Marquilles by train.
The area of Lille station in WW1(picture: Meijer, 1934)
NEUVE-CHAPELLE (FRANCE)
English War Cemeteries
Location: Rue du Moulin, behind the houses (signs lead the way)
Today: Still there
Hitlers regiment was in the battle of Neuve-Chapelle in 1915. The English tried to capture the village. A lot of soldiers
died in the battle of 1915. They are burried on these graveyards.
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The English Cemeteries in Neuve-Chapelle. The Left picture shows both of them (right next to the trees in the
background is the second one) (pictures: the Hitlerpages, 2009)
The fields around the graveyards with
the village of Neuve-Chapelle in the
background. The cemeteries are on
the English side of the village. The
Woods of Biez are on the other side
(behind the village). (picture: the Hitlerpages, 2009)
March 14 - Lille
The regiment is replaced and travels back towards Lille by train.
March 17 untill May 1915 - Fromelles
On March 17 the regiment goes back to Fromelles, through Marquilles station.
Locations in Fromelles: Rote Banke, Ferme Deleval (region Rue Deleval). The ‘Befehlstelle’is located at
Fromelles-Nord, 1100 meters west of the Rote Banke. The second ‘Befehlestelle’ (‘Bayern’) was located
southeast of Deleval Ferme. The Regiments Befehlstelle was at the Schloß Fromelles in the cellar of a house
opposite to a Sanitätsunterstand. The Regiment Staf was at a house of a notary in the so called Münsterstrasse
(number 50). The Regiment Ordonanzen stay at the house of Schwarzen Marie.
April 22 - Second Battle of Ieper
Hitlers regiment takes part in the Second Battle of Ieper. During that battle the Germans used gas for the first
time, surprising the allied forces.
May 2 – May 8/9 - Front (Fournes)
The 1st batallion is at the front.
May 8/9 - Fournes
At night the troops go to Fournes. Hitler is said to have drawn several drawings of a house called ‘Zur Schwarzin
Marie’. The house was named after its hostess.
May 9 (about 10 o’clock) - Fournes area
Back at the front. On May 9/10 there’s some heavy fighting going on in the area.
May 10/11 - Fournes
The 2nd and 3rd batallion go to Fournes (partly).
May 12/13 - Fournes
At night they’re back to the front line.
May 13-19 - Fournes-La Bassee
The 3rd batallion leaves for La Bassee in this period.
May 17 - Fournes and La Bassee
At night the 9th and 10th company go to La Bassee.
May 18 - Violaines
Some of the troops arrive at Violaines. They find shelter in a ‘hof’ (a public garden).
Around May 26 - Fromelles
The regimentsstaf is located at Fromelles.
May 29 - Wavrin and La Bassee
The second company goes to Wavrin and later on to La Bassee.
May – September - Fromelles
The regiment stays at the Fromelles area.
July 13 - La Bassee
A training takes place at La Bassee.
September 24/25 - Battle of La Bassee
The 1st and 3rd company go to join the other troops at the Battle of La Bassee.
October 2-8 - La Bassee
Parts of the regiment are at La Bassee, near the channel, southwest of Auchy. If Hitler was here or not remains
uncertain.
October 7 - Hitler switches companies
Hitler becomes a member of the 3rd company.
Autumn 1915 - La Bassee
Hitler was at La Bassee in the autumn of 1915. It’s not clear when exactly, because the companies of the
regiment went there on different dates.
Winter 1915-1916 - Fromelles
In November and December it’s pretty quiet at the front in Fromelles.
FOURNES EN WEPPES (FRANCE)
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Regiment Building
Location: Rue de Faidherbe, a few houses west and across the road from the Rue du 8 Mai 1945
Today: Still there, it is turned into a Mairie today
Hitler was stationed here in 1915. There are different pictures made of Hitler accompanied by fellow soldiers. Most of
them are made in the garden of the regiment building. A famous but unclear picture shows Hitler in the Rue Faidherbe
in 1915.
Above: Hitler in the Rue Faidherbe,
1915 (picture: Meijer, 1934)
Centre, above: The 1st company at
the Schloßallee in Fournes, May 1915(picture: Solleder, 1932)
Centre, below: Graveyard German
soldiers in 1915 in Fournes(picture: Solleder, 1932)
Right: The church of Fournes(picture: Meijer, 1934)
Above and right: Hitler and
his fellow-couriers in Fournes
in April 1915
Above: Hitler is sitting on the left(picture: Russel, 2006)
Right: Hitler is standing on the right(picture: Russel, 2006)
Fournes, Regiment Building 1916(picture: Russel, 2006)
Fournes, Regiment Building 1940(picture: Heinrich Hoffmann)
Fournes, Regiment Building, date
Fournes, 1915, Hitler is the second
one form the right
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unknown, Hitler alone (picture: Russel, 2006)
Fournes, Regiment Building. The
couriers of the regiment: Hitler is in
the front row on the left. (picture:
Weber, 2010)
Inside the Regiment Building. Max
Amann is on the front row, on the
right. Hitler is not on this picture(picture: Weber, 2010)
The Regiment building untill recently. The picture on the right shows the
garden, with the same wall as in ‘14-’18
The regiment building in 2009. The Mairie was closed, so I couldn’t get behind the building. When the gate is open, it
should be easy to take a look behind the building. It seems like the garden walls are still there. (pictures: the Hitler Pages, 2009)
Butchery Fournes
Location: Rue Faidherbe 966
Today: Still there
This is another building where Hitler was stationed in 1916. During the second world war the butchery was guarded and
there was a sign that said: ‘In diesem Quartier lag 1916 unser Fuehrer Adolf Hitler als Soldat des Bayr. JNF. RGT.
List’. The sign is broken, but it is in the museum of Fromelles.
Hitler was back at the butchery in Fournes en Weppes in 1940. (pictures: Heinrich Hoffmann) The picture on the right
shows guards in front of the house.
The former butchery today. The picture in the middle shows the hooks of the sign that was there in WW2, saying
Hitler had been stationed there. The picture on the right shows the contours of the old entrance and shop window in
the wall. (picture: the Hitlerpages, 2009)
Brewery Le Febre
Location: Unknown
This location is connected to the rumour of Hitler being a homosexual. All I can say is that the location itself is indeed
a location that has something to do with the German troops. The Erinnerungsblätter of the List Regiment (Solleder,
1932) mention it. Hitler must have been there, since the village is not that big. But that is, off course, on its own no
proof of his possible feelings for the male gender.
Chateau/ Schloss
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Location: Unknown, but there is a Avenue du Chateau in the village
The Erinnerungsblätter of the List Regiment (Solleder, 1932) mention the castle of Fournes as a place where German
troops of commanders were stationed. According to Weber (2010) Hitler worked at the castle of Fromelles (and not
Founes) for three days and at the regiment headquarters in Fournes for three days a week. Where the castle was,
remains a small mystery.Unterstand
Location: Unknown
Hitler made sketches of an Unterstand (shelter) in 1915. Russel (2006) says the Unterstand was near Fromelles.
Joachimsthaler (1989) thinks it’s the Ruhequartier of the German Ordonanzen in Fournes, called Zur Schwarzen Marie.
Fournes and Fromelles are not that far apart, though. The sketches were coloured and worked over by an artist after
1933.
Three drawings of the Unterstand ‘Zur Schwarzen Marie’. The first one looks a little different, but it must be the
same house from a slightly different perspective. The coloured drawing (Russel 2006) is worked over by an artist after
1933. The bike of the first sketch (Joachimsthaler, 1989) and the plank standing against the wall of the second
(Joachimsthaler, 1989) are both of the third picture. All three pictures show the same stairs next to the house.
FROMELLES (FRANCE) more about Fromelles here
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A map of the front near Fromelles, May 1915(Solleder, 1932)
Fromelles 1916(picture: Meijer, 1934) The Graveyard
(picture: Meijer, 1934)
The church of Fromelles(picture: Meijer, 1934)
House between Fromelles and Aubers(picture: Meijer, 1934)
A trench near Fromelles(picture: Joachimsthaler, 1989)
Shelters near Fromelles(picture: Solleder, 1934)
House on the Gartenstrasse between
Fromelles and Aubers, 1916(picture: Solleder, 1932)
This map shows the Gefechtsbefehlstelle of RIR 16 in Fromelles and the location of the Regimentsstab building in
Fournes in 1915. (Joachimsthaler, 1989)
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Hitler in Fromelles in 1940
Farm where Hitler was stationed
Location: Southern edge of Fromelles, on the D22, last farm on the left
Today: Still there
Hitler was stationed in a farm on the edge of Fromelles. Hitlers regiment was in this region in several periods of the
war. In 1940 Hitler visited the farm again.
Could this be the same farm as the
one drawn by Hitler? (picture: the Hitlerpages, 2009)
A drawing made by Hitler (probably
redone) of a farm in Fromelles, that
was the ‘Verbandplatz’ of the
regiment of Hitler in 1915.(Russel, 2006)
House between Fromelles and Aubers(picture: Meijer, 1934)
Trenches near Fromelles in May 1915(picture: Joachimsthaler, 1989)
A drawings Hitler made near
Fromelles. The aquarel ‘Haus mit
weissem Zaun’ is made northwest of
Fromelles, near the ‘Roten Banke’, in
1915. A lot of drawings of Adolf
Hitler were redone or coloured by a
better artist after 1933.(Russel, 2006)
Rote Banke and the House mit weissem Zaun
Location: Rue Delval (on the corner of the road to Pétillon) Look at the map for the exact locations.
Today: Unknown, but there are still houses there.
Hitler knew the area the Germans called the Rote Banke very well. He drew a picture of the ‘Haus mit weissem Zaun’
that was also on the Rue Delval.
Dachau, near Fromelles(picture: Meijer, 1934)
Dachau
Location: Rue Delval (look at the map for the exact location)
Today: Unknown
The Germans gave German names to the locations of the area’s they were at. An area at one of the ends of the Rue
Delval was called Dachau. Every Meldegänger in the area must have known the place.
The Deleval Ferme (picture: Solleder, 1932)
Deleval Ferme
Location: Rue Delval (exact location unknown)
Today: Unknown
Another marking point in the area was the Deleval Ferme.
Senling of Pionierpark Sendling
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WW1 bunker
Location: Unknown
There is discussion about what the exact Hitlerbunker was in World War 1. There are (still) a lot of WW1-bunkers in
the area and it’s obvious that Hitler has seen more than one. Pictures of Hitler made in 1940 in front of a bunker are
widespred on the internet. The pictures below show Hitler in front of a WW 1 bunker. It doesn’t look like it’s the same
bunker as the two so called Hitlerbunkers in the Fromelles/Aubers region.
These pictures were probably taken on June 26, 1940, somewhere in Belgium or France, most likely near Fromelles.
Where these bunkers were and why Hitler went there is unknown. The picture on the right shows Hitler, Ernst Schmidt
Befehlstelle Bayern
Location: Unknown
The book Adolf Meijer made about the First World War shows a picture of the Befehlstelle Bayern. Hitler must have
know the place.
Befehlstelle Bayern. (picture: Meijer, 1934)
Senling (picture: Meijer, 1934)
Location: Somewhere behind the front line
The book of Adolf Meijer shows a picture of a place called Senling. It’s another location that might be hard to find
back. Adolf Meyer met Hitler for the second time at the Pionierpark Sendling. He writes that on this occasion Hitler
had to bring officers from the Pionierpark to the front.
Stützpunkt Starnberg
Location: Somewhere between the Deleval-Ferme (Rue Deleval) and the front line
Today: Unknown
Adolf Meyer, who wrote the book ‘Mit Adolf Hitler im Bayerischen Reserve Infanterie Regiment 16 List’ says that he
met Hitler here in 1915 for the first time.
The Spital in Fromelles (picture: Solleder, 1932)
Truppenverbandplatz
Location: Unknown
Another building Solleder mentions is the Spital or Truppenverbandplatz, a fieldhospital, in Fromelles.
The station of Fromelles (picture: Meijer, 1934)
Fromelles Station
Location: Unknown
There’s no railway running through Fromelles anymore. In WW1 there was. The picture below shows a ruïned station.
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LA BASSEE (FRANCE)
The ‘wrong’ Hitlerbunker
Loocation: Road between Fromelles and Aubers (D141), just a few steps from the road
Today: Still there
On the road between Fromelles and Aubers are a lot of bunkers. One of them is the so called Hitlerbunker, the bunker
where Hitler was said to have been stationed in 1915. There is no prove that this is a bunker Hitler used to stay at.
There are also no pictures of Hitler visiting the bunker in 1940.
The Bunker on the road between
Fromelles and Aubers(picture: the Hitlerpages, 2007)
Close-up of the bunker(picture: the Hitlerpages, 2007)
The bunker is a German bunker indeed,
but there are no pictures of Hitler visiting this bunker in 1940. It’s sure
though that he knew this area very well... (pictures: the Hitlerpages, 2007)
The ‘real’ Hitlerbunker
Location: At the end of Rue de la Biette (outside the village) is a soccerfield, behind it in the fields is the bunker
Today: Still there
Of this German bunker can be proven that Hitler was there in 1940, because there are pictures made of the event.
What the bunker ment fot Hitler in WW1 is not clear.
Hitler visited this bunker in 1940 (pictures: Heinrich Hoffmann)
The bunker today(picture: the Hitlerpages, 2007)
and Max Amman from up close. (pictures left and centre: Russel, 2006)
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Auchy, region La Bassee weergeven op een grotere kaart
La Bassee in 1917, when the List
regiment was also is in the region.(Solleder, 1932)
A map of the so called Hohenzollern Werk,
an area soutwest of Auchy, 2-8 October
1915. The map on the left could mark the
same area. (Solleder, 1932)
The brewery of La Bassee(picture:Meijer, 1934)
The channel near La Bassee(picture: Meijer, 1934)
The channel near La Bassee(picture: Meijer, 1934)
The station of La Bassee(picture: Meijer, 1934)
La Bassee(picture: Meijer, 1934)
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Another picture of the station of La
Bassee, March 1917. Max Amann (a
wartime friend of Hitler and the
publisher of Mein Kampf) is the man
on the left.(picture: Joachimsthaler, 1989)
The second batallion of RIR 16 in the
Schlosspark of La Bassee at a divine
service outdoors in 1916(picture: Solleder, 1932)
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